Road Rage; ZF Autos get a Clutch Pedal??; Crown Vic Race; Acadia Review

What's up everybody Matt Farah here welcome to the smoking tire podcast today's episode is brought to you by off the record You love off the record just as much as I do based on the number of emails I get from people who tell me that off the record Absolutely took care of them when they got pulled over and accused of doing something bad in their car That's right. 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They're turning the trans trans That would be Belki or Serge Serge Serge Oh, what's that? What's his name? the French guy Bad that's gonna be shit Not Gerard de part. This isn't a lot Gerard de part Jesus fucking Christ Bronson show also Bronson pinch of yeah Bronson Bronson is a first name is fucking hell. Yeah, he was just he was everywhere. He was like, I'm the French guy Yeah, he he Crushed it in the mid 1980s. Yes all cameos all day. Yeah, just yeah, right best supporting He's probably a leading something. We didn't see perfect strangers. Oh Exactly. Yeah. Oh Yeah But but then after that it was just played play bulky with different names his first guess what his first movie ever was ever Right out the gate coming Beverly Hills cop Business oh fuck right huge Tom Cruise then Beverly Hills cop was the third movie Wow That's like that's a career. What is first four his first five movies risky business Yeah, then the pointer sisters neutron dance That was a video that might have I read that part afterwards then Beverly Hills cop But say Beverly Hills cop second movie. Yeah, the flamingo kid. Yeah hot resort. Yeah, that sounds like yep boobs and bikinis and a movie called Sarah man So not quite led Zeppelin levels, but but definitely a strong first showing. Yeah. Yeah, risky business and second and third album Took some work You know got back into it in the 90s shout out to Bronson pinch. Oh, yeah, love you buddy. Hi everybody. What's happening? Welcome to the program. It's it's a bit we I have like so I got some carry-over things to talk about from last show I have some new things I I've learned about technology that I like strangely enough and Dude and we heard from Cleetus is yeah business text this morning got the text we're in the race Zach and I are in the what the fuck is the race called it's a cleatest race whatever it's called in Connecticut on July 17th So you've gots to be out anyone any east coast people you want to do England 900 new England nine is it? I hope it's not 900 laps. I will get dizzy. I don't know what 900 what great question. Yeah 900 laps because it's in the track like Yeah 450 miles that'd be a long race. I can't can't be right. We gotta start working our necks out It's not an endurance race the race starts at like 7 30 p.m. Yeah Snaffer Speedway Stafford Speedway. Yeah 900 cars It has to be I don't know what it's just it's just made up $900 a car I don't know there's no info on how long doesn't matter. I'm so excited 7 30 p.m. It so it can only be so long It's not gonna be a five hour race right true. It's probably like a two hour race or maybe not even But that's like that long of a race around a half mile is a lot of turning left. Yeah for your boys here We don't do that much turning left. Usually we turn left and then right and there's like a couple more rights Or then lefts to me and make a clockwise or counterclockwise situation, but there's typically both Check out this driver's driver's list. Tell me if you know more than two people on it And I say this it informs me that we might be a little disconnected from the driver's list Not that these are no buddies. I think these are all probably they're probably more famous than us They probably are probably more famous than us for almost for certain Let's see oh my god, this was bolts and nuts burnout rivals whole deal Wow, we just gonna load Geez, okay Anyway, oh there wait there was it was there and it went away. Oh, no Good guys, it's because this is Stafford Speedway's website. Okay, there we go. All right drive quickly LS George Cleat is firing and MIG Wilder tie Greg Biffle that doesn't seem right seems like that may be a little out of date Because he's no longer with us clutch pack Zach Cameron Johnson Victor Alvarez boosted boy Kyle Maybe that's offer recovery. That is the coolest Such a rad Jim York Ryan Priests Jackson Jimmy Brad de Bertie Jimmy Oaks Roman at Roman Atwood. I think I know that name They don't know why but I think I know that name Kevin Smith KSR JHD's a West it Oh Weston Champlin. I know I know him I've met that I met that guy in Vegas Okay, he's he's fucking hysterical. I mean anyone He's the he's the the big dude who built the like Semi truck like the Mad Max the one underneath all the things drove through all that shit. Yeah, that's that guy Whoa, that guy is a fucking. Oh, I can't wait to talk to that guy. What a genius. So yeah, so so too There's like two people Three if you include someone who is unfortunately dead and everyone here probably has more oval racing experience than we do Oh for sure. Um, this is so exciting. Well, like as they say how hard can it be? You just got to move them around a little bit, right? Is as Kurt Busch said I'm so focused on and Slightly terrified. Yeah, how many of these people have personally gotten advice from Kurt Busch about how to handle this race I don't know how many people know that you're allowed to push other cars around and it's totally fine. I Mean, you know, we've been doing no contact racing for a while. It's about time. We do some contact Do the NASCAR highlights from Watkins Glen like the other trucks No, no cars the front-runner race was amazing like very close, but in the backfield Some guy who's very impatient like runs into the back of a car coming to turn one He's like get on my way hits that car tries to go around him and then his spotter is going still on your left Still on your left the guy that same guy who rear-ended someone Passes that car on the right cuts across left too early and pit maneuvers himself and crashes into the tire wall In NASCAR top top series top or cup whatever like very legitimate cars It was very funny this guy's just real impatient and the spotter is going that car's still there So you know and the guy tracks way out pit maneuvers himself just road rage Yeah, oh my god. Yeah, oh, I love it. I love it He rode into the wall Did you watch that the clip I sent in the group chat one guy went off into the into the grass and it was muddy Yeah, and the splitter was so low It it dug up all of the sod made a mound and then created a jump that the car then went off itself and Ripped off the entire undertrend. I did it it I don't know if ever before has a race car built its own jump in real time build a jump and then taking the jump right While building it like there's gotta be a fucking Guinness record for that. Yes. This is only done in like What was the show like go-go gadget inspector gadget? The car drives it puts a jump in front of itself jumps brings the jump with it Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. I didn't you know it's so funny. I'm so out of touch I saw on TV on the road trip. I was on with Hannah the truck series the NASCAR truck series It was on in a bar that Hannah and I were in on this trip and I was like, oh shit They're at the Glen and I was like look at their fucking lines their lines are like insanely wide You know using all the race Yeah, as long as if there's tarmac on it fucking paint doesn't mean shit Yeah, these guys like contact doesn't matter It's so funny because like at Kota they really care about the track limits like specifically a Kota because all the run-offs are paved And so if you have to in when it's all just paved and you could sort of theoretically just drive anywhere Like you have to enforce the track limits. Otherwise people are going to just drive anywhere Like there's no reason to not just make a straight line through the SS it's possible We talked to Jensen button about this because he raced there and he said the only place they enforced it was the SS Yeah, the rest of it. He was like it took him I think he said it was like half the race just to understand that what was happening around him was allowed and like contact Past paint like track limits. He was like I mean in in in fucking when we were in WRL they only cared about it in one place But they did in fury care about it to the point where they would bring it up in all the meetings on the drives He's a blah blah at the Glen It's like track grass wall and so like there's pavement like you know fuck it like it's not that much of an advantage It's like it wrote America right right like if you're if the car can make it like it's it's grass and then wall So like man, you might as well try. Yeah, it's your risk. It's your reward totally They don't really give a shit and they didn't really seem to give a shit, but I was so out of touch I didn't even realize that there was like an actual NASCAR race like attached to that probably the next day or something But I had to explain to Hannah why There is a series where they race pickup trucks that are actually NASCAR, which is a fun, you know, it was It was like one of those conversations like Hannah knows unlike it wasn't a difficult concept to explain But it was almost like no one had ever asked me that before and it was almost like you know explain Kim Kardashian to an alien Sort of thing like worse where you have to like back it, you know back it up pretty far and I was like alright That's how far we have to go back to explain Why they're racing pickup trucks is NASCAR so that makes any sense at all. I don't know the history of all I just know that it's like the feeder series into Xfinity and then Cup and all that stuff Yeah, Hannah said her company sponsored a quote racing truck in Brazil briefly and For a minute I got extremely excited because I thought it was one of those snub-nosed like man You know racing semis that they race down there and then I found out that they have a NASCAR truck like series in Brazil as well. Oh, yeah Maybe Copa truck. I think is what it's maybe sure that sounds right. Yeah, which looks like NASCAR truck But in Brazil, oh wait, I'm sorry Copa truck is the one you want. That's the one you want The dopest shit ever So it's formula truck if you haven't have you ever next time we go to CXC to like train for a race or something After we're done fucking around with the race Haven't put us in one of the semis because I know I'm in a motion fucking sim semi-racing is insanity You're bouncing like in ways because you know you still have the hydraulic seat and shit Oh, that's weird like bouncing like crazy So you got be hard to feel the limits because it's all cushion. Yeah, it's going through this translator. Yeah, oh that'd be weird Yeah, it's wild Um, so anyway, thanks real quick. How cool does that look? Oh my god? Everyone imagine a cab over semi that's shorter. Oh jeez fucking yeah It's got a front splitter like I don't know a GTR. It's huge and Sigh, I'm gonna show display that in America and don't tell don't tell the fucking Habibi's in Beverly Hills That's a thing that someone could possibly drive really cool Imagine like look at a magic. Okay, imagine the lower the lower nose of a Toyota Supra grafted onto the The the flat front of a European semi That's that's cut they cut the bottom half bottom third of the cab and then they just drop the top two thirds Yeah, lower on it looks like it looks like the front fenders are Equal with the door handle like that's how the cab look at the camber on the front tires It's my way four degrees of negative camber if not more and for people listening the whole truck is gold The whole truck is gold This is awesome. Yes. Wow. That's a 2019. That's not even a 2026 We need a 2026 Copa truck All sponsorship money needs to be diverted to this series. What are why are we even watching anything else? Why isn't there a drive to survive about this shit, dude? These guys probably nuts this this must be one of the best spectator motorsports possible This is a person. They are the proximity. I mean, they're so they're side-by-side three wide with these huge vehicles. Yeah That's great. Like look at that That just seems to be why Three wide down the front straight these giant Like 15 gears real aggressive windshield banner game I Advertising a lot of space, you know, NASCAR they charge. What is it by the square inch or something here? They do it by the you know the mirror. Okay, so I just did About 600 and something miles across around the state of Oregon mostly Washington But a little Oregon as well folks taking a quick break today for fit bod When you are working out it is so easy to get into a rut and just do the same thing with your workout every day Like before I got on my like proper fitness journey. 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That's promo code tire visit blue chew comm for more details and important safety information and thank blue chew for sponsoring the podcast promo code tire To scout the the road and track Northwest shift Hannah came with me. I drove a Maw a GMC Acadia, which is not the worst thing you could drive But for driving on in in dynamic situations, it's among the worst things you could drive So this thing okay, I'm gonna be nice the GMC Acadia if you were going to let's just say central Florida And you wanted to rent a three-row Midsize SUV Smaller than a Tahoe, but hold three row. This is a lovely vehicle Spacious the fucking tech the carplay and shit works great He the heated seats were just about the hottest heated seats I've ever used to the point where like someone might actually cook a pizza cook a pizza with one And it was like, you know space and whatever it was fine. It was screwed together tightly like it was alright, but This engine is mad wheezy. I don't know what this fucking thing weighs It's got to be 5,000 pounds big-ass heavy thing this engine's a little four cylinder and Just just nothing just a lot of fucking a lot of nothing and And it required a lot of downshifting a lot of hunting for gears things like that The 2.5 liter turbo for yes by the same engine we had in the Blazer probably Montana. Yeah, that was a pretty nice car This is a good job. This thing probably weighs 800 pounds more than that. Wow, you know and so also Steering wheel with paddle shifters, right? Okay They do nothing. They are not because they do absolutely nothing. They're full on it's full on It's a steering wheel from something else and the paddle shifter does not no way it doesn't change anything Nothing truly. There's no drive mode in which the paddle shifters change gears up or down Oh, I thought you're being like no no embellishing nothing zero nothing Wow. Yeah, nothing Furthermore this particular vehicle which was not something I could have checked when I could have foreseen when I left the rental place had a Nasty vibration beginning at about 55 miles an hour All the way up and so I mean I probably a wheel weight a wheel out of balance or something I actually thought there might be mud into tires, right? And and there was some mud in the wheel arches So I stopped at a self-serve and really power wash the fuck out of the wheels and suspension and everything I could get Helped it a little but so maybe we'll maybe a wheel weight fell off a wheel weight fell off and it got caked in mud Somebody you know so for like three days. It was just like a yeah. Yeah, it was so handle like the trip It did it. It actually wasn't like quite bad enough and Hannah doesn't have Quite enough experience with cars for her to be like this is problematic Versus like this is just how this car drives and this car drives like crap. Hmm. You know what I mean? Like I could be like this car is not supposed to be doing this. She she can't really which it was fine. She did about half the driving Washing the these this is fucking Slept on part of the country from a car enthusiasm standpoint these roads are fucking Bangers all of them all the roads are bangers. It's like this road trip is like as close as you could get probably to New Zealand in America we went from Lakes to beaches to forests to rain forests to desert to High pine forest to snow literal snow and then back down all of those back to the to the sea again Like such a banger like really really really really really really good One of the hotels that we're gonna be staying in the trip is like on Mount Rainier and doesn't even open until Like two weeks from now, so I couldn't check it out the road to get there was closed That's right. We look down on that and I found a much But I finally it took me a couple of hours to figure out who it is I can call in the state of Washington to figure out like when these roads might open or like whatever It turns out actually it's the park service the roads I need are inside the park and I tried calling all the DOT agencies and They just kept pinging me around like no, this is you're in the Southwest region You need the North region and ping big did I talked six of them? Oh until I got a complete circle eventually. I was like How about the park and like that was it actually it was the park so but Really really good tarmac up there for a for a place that has four seasons like the tarmac was exceptional Lot of lot of good open sweepers But in the beginning part of the drive In the Oregon part of the drive over the area around Portland leaving Portland some very beautiful and tight technical forest driving with like big ferns almost like a Like you'd find outside of in Northern California kind of like that And then like tons of waterfalls tons of fucking rivers like the sound of like water rushing is like everywhere Absolutely beautiful. Yeah, one of those people drives over done There are a few spots available if you want you can come drive with us It's experiences dot road and track calm. I will of course be there leading the drive and I believe Barring some kind of miracle. I'll be driving an M5 touring which Is a good car for a road trip Admittedly holds a lot of stuff very comfortable It's not like my favorite car in the world, but the selection of press cars up there are is very limited So I'm happy with that the other quote. There's two sporty. I cast a pretty wide net Sporty cars are in the fleet The only two cars that would qualify to a road and track reader as sporty where the M5 touring and a Miata I just knew it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and so I was like Dan. I got you a Miata So happens don't ask someone to arrange the cars they're gonna give themselves the best car Well, I bet there will be a road or section where you'll want to be in the Miata and there is a lot where you don't yeah, there's a couple But and we got Portland International Raceway, which is a fun track And we're gonna be staying at some really cool hotels. I can't I couldn't check out the one but I Checked out the first one. I couldn't get to Mount Rainier one and I have actually stayed for two nights at the third one It's super super nice. So It's gonna be a really really fun trip. I'm I'm extremely stoked that I get to go back and do it again and and Hannah and I really enjoyed the towns of Long Beach, Washington and Leaven Leavenworth if you go in the next photo Leavenworth, Washington is like one of those fake Swiss villages folks one more quick break from the action because support is coming in from delete me Friends the number of people who have come up to me recently and asked me Do I know of any services to help them get their? 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It's equally it's the it's very much the American version of Swiss if you first people that have never actually been to Switzerland or Germany like because for a for in this small photo on your Phone it looks very alpine it does up close not so much Because the mountains are shorter windows aren't quite right. No not the mountains I mean the mountains aren't quite right either, but but it's all it's like the second and the second story and above Say Switzerland, but the ground floor of all the buildings is very much America Like you know, we have like the regulations of ADA maybe or and also just larger doors larger windows We that's what we do and it might have been converted from buildings that were already there in the 60s Like who knows like nevertheless the sausages were delicious Seriously, the beer was actually proper German beer drinking drinking good German beer And we we ate dinner at a restaurant called Carta, which is not fucking Swiss German themed And it was unironically absolutely fucking delicious. Hmm. It was a pretty good time. Wow. Yeah, nice This is like it was like two hours from Seattle. So this is like it is literally like their Solvang for Seattle poppin off on a Saturday They want people to see something different. They're like sure this is what it looks like there That's fine. I get it a little bit of whimsy. Yeah, so we're stopping and this is one of our stops On the event so it's not an overnight. It's a someone the chat asked if You know if you bring a partner on the trip do they get to drive on the track also? Is it just one person? Yes. No, no if there's two people in In the group in that with that they want to drive on track. They both get strife. Yeah, yeah, they make accommodations for that They would basically put You know, there's like the red group and the green group that's not they don't mean skills anything It's just like you have to divide it up because there's only so many whatever, right? And you would just the car would stay and the driver would switch Yeah, but it would they would each get full sessions as long as the car was able to handle that. Yeah, yeah, cool But these are these are fucking good trips and like I know the Pacific Northwest is like kind of far from stuff It's hard to get to like very much This was the beach and this is called Long Beach and this Long Beach is the longest drivable beach in the country like you can drive on the on the same Oh, yeah, yeah, you can drive on the sand. You're not allowed to do drifties. Did you take? Yeah We did not take the GMC because we had been in the car for like five hours And we wanted to walk on the beach and that was very rewarding and delightful But people were mainly people who just wanted to drive because it's pretty deep They wanted to just drive down to where the water was for the I mean not the The depth meaning the distance from where you from parking water is like a couple hundred yards So people who wanted to go fishing would like drive their forerunner down there and pull out the poles But lovely place nice people awesome good food Very much enjoyed my time up there cannot wait to go back. Oh, I sort of told you about this the other day but I I saw a road rage incident Play out in front of my eyes and it was so good because one of the people the person that This person the not the person that started the road rage But the person that started the Sparked the road rage had a big sticker on their back window that said hugs not drugs Which I just I loved in fact at first I noticed it because I thought it said nugs not drugs and I was like that's right, sir Weed isn't drugs, but then I was like, oh wait. No, that's just me reading. Oh, yeah, that's the cursive So we're driving the Acadia Hugs not drugs is to immediately to our right down. I what you'd call a dual carriageway two lane road in front of us is a fairly crappy late 1990s Pontiac Grand Prix sedan the blobby one the the one that looked like it was just fully injection molded plastic like that one, right? It's in front of us all of a sudden traffic like Comes abruptly to a halt in front of Pontiac Grand Prix who clearly will not be able to break in time and does a What do you call it a moose test maneuver? Into the other lane sort of you might say it would be called cutting off hugs not drugs If there if it wasn't off so obviously a defensive maneuver to avoid getting into a crash, okay? Immediately hugs not drugs lays on the horn as if he had been cut off unprompted lays on the horn Grand Prix is having fucking zero of this James on the brakes fucking a whole one of the hardest brake checks I've ever seen that results in hugs not drugs were smashing into his back bumper and now hugs not drugs is you know It's a white Kia Maybe an optima or something whatever just a Kia the front bumper is now doing that thing where only the top hinges are Holding it on and sort of flaps like a doggy door that's being pushed open Yeah, you see it on drift cars once in a while. Yeah, look at push dump in dog So hugs not drugs, you know, they've been in an accident that he pulls over Grand Prix does not fucking take a beat just dips Yeah, just the front the rear bumper of this car the car this this car is This car is $2,000 on a great day even if it's totally straight and legit. There's a $2,000 car I wonder if the plastic back in the 90s also like rubber made rubber made plastic the fasteners were a little more expensive They hadn't taken all the value out of them yet So it's just more durable But this dude just fucking this dude just eyes up evaded a crash only to get honked at in a car He gives no fucks about and was absolutely having none of this person's fucking on And man, like I do not endorse this behavior, but if you're gonna do it like Like he wasn't trying to do an insurance scam, right? This fucking lady smash into the back of him and then went you know what that's cool. Yeah fuck And you need to check the damage gone. He's like, I don't care what happened It's about it's about the lesson no taught here slow down just enough to get hit and was like that's fine And then went to work That's like these people that drive in the canyons when we're up there doing fucking open shade Zach and I get up there really early both to like beat traffic across town and so that we can shoot The car interiors in what's called open shade. It's like soft lights You know these like hard like bright and shadow bits in the interior But like and people will criticize us for like breaking speed limits by the way shout out to the CHP Officer fan who fucking said what's up to me yesterday by the way. I don't think that guy has any problem with what we're doing But when we're up there shooting fucking open shade We we witness what we call the Palmdale 500 which is people who commute over the mountain on that road doing The kind of speeds that we do in the worst cars imaginable with terrible tires and doing like crazy Double yellow passes do not do into blind corners. Yeah, like the shit we see up We should just sit there Like one day we should go up there and like not film a car and just go pro head on looking up that hill Just sit there and just count the fucking double yellow passes because it's at least three or four in the half hour We're in that siding. Yeah, all those passes are like they're on the rain line You know because because there's a car in the apex So they actually go to the outside right later and then turn in is truly crazy box trucks old Tacomas You know Camry's whatever like a lot of the Connell boxes with Marred paint just going for it pushing pushing Like whoo like dude just wake up a couple minutes earlier man Whatever you're doing like dying for your fucking job ain't worth it Whatever you're doing wrong that break check story is very much like Pat Nalls Well has a story where he was at a bar outside and a cowboy walked out and bumped into this like very large black dude Out of cigar and the cowboy goes watch where watch where you're going and the black guy goes I'm not going like I'm saying here you bumped into me So you watch it and the cowboys wasted and tries to start a fight and the black dude just picks him up and drops him Because he's a powerlifter and then the cowboy walks away, and it's like this honk Yeah, like hey, I'm hey fuck you and the other person's like you know yeah I have the upper hand in so many ways. Yes, you have fucked with the wrong person today, and I am not taking it Yeah Falling down is not a admirable story, but it is it is a cathartic movie in that regard Any movie where someone just cracks yeah So that's wild but So I saw that on this road trip, and we're going back June Jesus, I think it's not the ninth to the ninth or tenth to the 13th is the actual trip Like I said, there's a couple spots left you get to fucking hang out at the bar with me every night and fucking I'd tell you what I really think yeah Tell you what I really think about stuff That's that's what you're paying for on this trip is not the hotels and the food and the racetrack So I can tell you what I'll tell them all the secrets you left out of the video reviews and that you left out of the podcast 100% What do you really think about the portion of spider hmm? Hmm comes better in pink The oh Announce another announcement. I'm 99% sure this is a go 99% there's only like Maybe like one thing that could derail it at this point Detroit Woodward Dream Cruise Thursday live Smogantire podcast with Christian James hand At garage 248 in Royal Oak. It's gonna be a fucking good time The tickets will include Snacks and bevs wink winks That means cocaine and whiskey piles of cocaine It's a snack it's 248 garage and I say garage 248. I don't know if I got it right But 248 garage in Royal Oak they have been talking to them. We got it all lined up We got things organized over there So it's gonna be Thursday night of Woodward Dream Cruise. I believe that is the 13th August Thursday August 13th Yeah, Christian Christian hands gonna fucking crush it nice We have we have special Detroit themed fucking merch Dream cruise themed merch. We're gonna have Maybe some special guests come into chat some of our Detroit heads and it's going to be a fucking good time So I I don't have the ticket link just yet. It's gonna be I just found out this morning Thank God these have these fucking guys have a event-brite account. So I don't have to I don't have to make another subscription So we'll have tickets soon this place. It's it's like a car storage and social club I like their vibe. I talked to Douglas who who owns the joint for like an hour on the phone on the other day guy gets it. I'm down That's the room. We're gonna use they're gonna pull all the cars out of there the stage will be at the back by that roll-up door and We got TVs. We got sound sick. We're gonna have it's gonna be it's only gonna be like like a hundred and twenty five hundred and thirty capacity so a little smaller than the Then the Texas shows so when the ticket link goes up jump on it Get on it Detroit Midwest people come on down and we're gonna be hanging out for Dream Cruise So that'll be going up soon. That'll be I can't wait to do that's a lot of show in Detroit It's gonna be Detroit like they have a fucking sense of humor in Detroit. These are awesome people there So I'm extremely stoked about that also In in important news, did you know that? PCH is open big sir H through big sir is open I don't know exactly the date it opened but all of a sudden some on the other day was okay Did you know it was open and I looked at it? Absolutely is January I guess was it January. Yeah, well, I haven't been paying attention So I haven't gone up there But it is open and I guess if I didn't know maybe other people don't know either So now you know PCH is open you should go drive it while you can because it's like never open for more than like True. Yeah, drive it now before the rainy season arrives, right? That's usually when it has a problem You don't want to be there for that. Mm-hmm. So what an amazing drive But the road changes so much from bottom to top like just get super tight twisty Yeah, it's very fun and you should drive it But if you're and if you're going to car week you should go that way But if you're if you're not you should come to car you should go to come to Detroit to the Woodward Dream Cruise and hang out with us And before we go to questions because we do have a bunch I Just learned another thing I just learned that I'm sure other people have known did you know that the The the eight speed ZF gearbox The eight HP 70 or whatever it's called right mm-hmm There is like a hack for it now that can essentially make it an on-demand manual So there's there's a thing that they sell So fucking there's there's a name for this computer and it's I can't remember the name It's you're gonna find it in two seconds. I'm sorry. I don't have the link right at hand But it's a computer that can hack the the gearbox and you can effectively put a Fake clutch pedal now. It's an automatic still mm-hmm It's you you have to press the brake pedal to put it in from park into drive And you can use paddle shifters or or leave it in D and you can drive it like an automatic Separately the ZF gearbox ins and has a torque converter still right. It's an automatic but with this hack You can also like control a bunch of other shit that they don't normally let you control now I don't know about like the longevity of this but This a couple people have now done it where it's sort of built into this computer that controls the gearbox You can put it you can then install a clutch pedal what right? And you put a clutch pedal in and in one in like a one video thad sent me Someone had put in a very professional looking clutch pedal. It looked almost OEM right into the in a street car and another video It was like a fucking Drift car right and in the drift car. They actually used a gas pedal as the fake clutch pedal Okay, you following me? Kind of there's a gas pedal on the right right and then the normal break Yeah, and then about where there would be a clutch pedal. Okay, there's another gas pedal now that gas pedal is a fake Digital clutch okay, and it does the things that clutches can do so just as full disengagement It doesn't disengage the the it engages the clutch pack inside the gearbox disengages it so you can clutch kick You can separate you can you separate the gearbox it opens it just like a clutch But it's not the clutch like a manual There's a bunch of clutch packs that are for different gears within the it opens those So is the is it pretty much used for? Drift folks like because you still have the paddles do you still have you do not electronic shifter correct? Okay, so basically you can clutch kick the car you can clutch using an automatic Which is opens up the market for more drift cars instead of having a manual. Okay, it is a it is a clutch kickable Fucking eight speed automatic torque converter gearbox like a discount sequential box. Yes essentially Yes, it's fucking gearbox that we race with right survives endurance racing and All that other shit and now you and now I don't know how long it lasts if you're doing this a lot because just particularly because you're Opening the clutches for purposes of clutch kicking right so who knows how long it will last if you're doing this all the time, but it is apparently possible and not all that difficult for someone who knows how to install a computer and a clutch pedal to make this work 8 HP the world is this website and in the frequently asked questions tab It offers what the 8 HP? Swap kits are So and I don't know anything about the reputation of this company. It's not necessarily an endorsement It's just that this is where in the FA like because that sent me like long videos and podcasts and all this and I was like Dude just I something quick so the FA Q's in here are like the the the transmission controllers are called the turbo Lamek or the max ECU Turbo Lamek offers the most comprehensive features including launch mode and virtual clutch control. So that's what it's called T. U. R. B. O. L. A. M. I. K. Turbo Lamek and so with these swap kits you can these this this website is to swap the 8 HP into other cars I think with the turbo Lamek controller You can just hack the gearbox when it's in a car that it's come with here we go Yeah, yeah, right so if you've got a BMW or a Chrysler or something Yeah, that already got the gear HP is about putting that transmission in a Supra a mark for Supra NSC 300 IS 300 basically Toyota stuff Here we go. Yeah, but this is this is pretty fucking cool, huh? That's pretty rad I mean, yeah, if you can just go to the junkyard get a ZF 8 speed. Yeah, or you buy a car that already has one What is the what are the products for so? It's just a computer so wiring harness. Here's a here's a Supra So you could do it for a soup you could do it for a modern Supra You could do with an automatic and make a clutch kickable automatic Yeah, so I mean the the whole hardware computer wiring everything is 2,500 bucks and then you have to figure out what your fake clutch pedal will be yeah, but like Kind of interesting isn't it? Yeah, I mean it I wonder I wonder very curious if people know about this in the comments Like how does it hold up to? Racing how does it hold up to drifting? Yeah, there's the DCT clutch simulator remote. Oh, this is I yeah I didn't want to think about all you know Porsche sort of did this is with a D with the DCT Yeah, and the GT cars where if you tug the paddles together you can go to school Which I think I think would be a fun I actually might look potentially like that in a Supra or a BMW better than a fake pedal I don't I don't hate the Talk both paddles to clutch kick I mean I think I think it works in some situations But there will be times like you know if you're drifting and you need to you know Clutch kick mid-corner and the wheel is turned in the pad where the paddles right now That could be a little more challenging if you're doing competitive drifting absolutely or just your fun sometimes depending on your power It depends on your power level your engine But if I was putting this in a street car Mm-hmm, I might just use this computer to add that ability then and rather than adding an actual pedal very Right, very good. It's very occasional burnouts. Yeah, yeah stuff. Yeah weird Me what very neat like what a cool possible solution to if people want to build a drift car And you're like well the manuals always cost a premium. There's not as many of them Obviously like this opens up that whole market. Yeah, if they work for competitive stuff kind of interesting I mean this is definitely cheaper than buying a sequential box like yeah, what's the cheapest? You know sequential transmission cost. I have no idea I feel like I feel like the good ones are in the tens. It's gotta be yeah It's gotta be like six to eight. It's gotta be ten grand. Yeah, cool That's just kind of a kind of a neat thing I've never heard of before and of course Thaddeus found it because the kind of thing Thaddeus would find he's yeah He's been very interested in the the ZF eight speed swap into What do you send me someone put one in an E 92? Yeah, and like er E 92 I think E 92 and he's like this is pretty cool and you could do it in the in the E 46 They're just making it work with lots of BMWs. Yeah, well remember the They were doing it with the DCT before that the guy at Pike's Peak has the E had the E 30 with the BMW DCT in it Yep, that's right 2j. Yeah, 2jz with a fucking BMW DCT in an E 30. Yeah in a wide-body. Yeah, it was fucking nuts Psychotic hill climb E 30s. Yeah Great that car that car fucking rolled everything about that was tens across the board. I don't care how it did in the race That's a winner This is this is neat if I'd love to If somebody in California has a drift car with this in it, I would really like to try it Definitely, I will host you it at Willow Springs as my guest and we can come play Super cool, man. I love that. There's the constant ingenuity of people. So really neat, right? Yeah, I Like it a lot and it does. I mean it makes the it makes Automatic equipped JDM cars more desirable because it because now you don't have to turn it into Emanuel you could fucking get it throw out whatever slushbox is in there Do you know get one of these out of a fucking dodge or a Chrysler or what? Transmissions in every yeah, they're all over it said on that other site like which ones to use for the swaps No, go back to the FA the FAQs where were those? Oh the FAQ page there had There right now we offer the Supra one with the Dodge Gearbox the soarer with the dodge and yeah So they're all using the Dodge Gearbox's Those are that that's got to be the strong ones right because they're in like the Hellcats and stuff. Whoa cool. So yeah Need huh. Yeah, that's really neat. That's really neat All right, let's go to the people right yep, I think it's that is it that time. Yeah, I think it is Certainly it's because I'm out of things on my list Um We've got a few from last week Of course if you want to ask questions for the live show and then watch them on the live show or get the show the same day It goes up get the show without ads get extra show which by the way, we're recording on Friday I think aren't we pro driver show is pro champ show is gonna be this Friday and Exclusive early access to collabs and merch and projects such as the The berry canyon that I am wearing right now actually if anyone Left in the patreon. I think the the remaining units. I think there's about I want to say like 25. I think of the hundred I think our patrons got about 75 of them the remaining are gonna get offered to the public So if you if you do want one if you were on the fence If you were holding out for that AP swatch collab and then you realize that it was obviously going to be a pocket watch and Car if Carl was here today, I don't like to speak for the dead, but Carl spoke on the record to me a many many many times about pocket watches and Carl would laugh at everybody buying that fucking AP swatch pocket watch. It's all I'm saying he read great So I had a question about it and you would he would laugh at it and I I think It I think the same thing like I Understand what they're both doing, but I think that I Think the problem is if you if you if someone figures out how to put the thing in a wristwatch It looks an awful lot like the expensive AP ceramic ones And so people who have the really expensive AP ceramic ones might be This looks terrible. It's not great. And what that it's a pocket watch. I just yeah, I don't think it works as a pocket Yeah, well, I also I think I think if this thing is what makes pocket watches all of a sudden trendy Then it would be like a shameless Just branding consumerism of how to get anything with the AP brand on it for you know regular people money Yeah, tripping on a desk asked if this was a recession indicator I don't think I'd go I wouldn't go that far but I think pocket watches a lot of times look really nice because They're just so slim like they're slim and it's just a simple circle and there's like I don't know the smooth pebble shape to them without Without the strap without the housing that you attach so isolated. I think they look nice, but obviously they're very inconvenient Yeah, like having your phone in your pocket. Yeah as you watch. Yeah, so you know Pocket watch it's called it's called your phone actually. It's you know, but I Mean if you I think if you dress it the right way They they they work as an accent for that but not as a really functional watch. Yeah, it's it's to me It's the labou bou at people are gonna hang them on their backpacks, right? It's hanging out there. Yeah, they're gonna I guarantee you the number one place to spot these things is going to be around the handle of a Louis duffel hmm, which to me the Louis duffel is a joke of a product because it's essentially made of plastic Not leather. That's just the print like my dad used to talk so much shit about like the trunks like that They brought in the fucking Titanic and shit those Louis trunks. That's a different story Them shits are made in fucking Italy and France by but the duffels that ever you see everybody carrying around the airport Shit them shits are made of plastic. They're garbage because that's to be more durable for getting thrown around No, no, no good that Beckett simmon on bag I have that shits made of leather. I care over the world It's money now Louis trash dude, but you're gonna see them hanging from the fucking Louis bags for sure Let's see poop to sample. That's pretty funny I haven't been able to drive a GT4 or spider with the shorter gearing But honestly don't mind the the OE gearing I did it. I had an s2000 did a rear-end final gear swap and felt like I was having to shift too much Which made the car actually slower is the gearing more set up for the 4.5 So no Here's the thing You're really not It's not that much shorter first first first It's not the final drive ratio is different because it shortens your your all the gears the same amount The gear set in the spiders at least think there's a there's different gear sets you can get the one I use it first It leaves first it leaves sixth alone So your creep and your crews are stock. They're the same as stock and in between It it changes the ratios individually in a way that is just more optimized so in the canyons Yes, you're shifting a little more than you otherwise would but the problem with the stock car is you're not shifting enough so and you don't end up shifting like Hillclimb rally car where you watch them get into six by the time they're at 90 miles per hour It's not like that. No, it just makes it the gearing more like a normal car. Yeah, like I Feel like it makes the gearing what it would be if Porsche was not restricted by EU noise and MPG regulations and emissions because that's Part of why the gearing is so is so damn tall and everything. Yeah, possibly so I don't know anyone who's done the gears and Regretted it Whereas there's definitely people that I know who have done final drive ratios and ended up with some unintended consequences We know two people at least who have done the gears that did not do the engine Yeah, and they love it. They love it if they do the gears a light flywheel and like the planum in the exhaust like You're 60% of the weight of the engine honestly in terms of like an actual enjoyment Sound deadening my car so no one can hear me cry. Why does nobody put sliding doors on an SUV? They do in like Europe Sliding doors is like 50% of what makes minivans more practical It seems a common sense upgrade it ain't about practical It's about image and perception sliding doors make people think minivan minivans are for losers probably also More complicated to construct because now you have a sliding mechanism an embrace mechanism on the flank of the car instead of like hinge You know, maybe hinge is a simpler thing. I don't know Sort of that by now Every more seems like more parts every major company's built a sliding door on something It also makes the side of the vehicle look worse sure having some sort of cut where the door can move sure I don't know where it is But like in Europe they have a lot of the a lot of cars that here would absolutely be be sold with just normal doors Where the back door is a sliding door? I think that maybe for easier access to a baby seat. Oh, you know, it's definitely easier in your egress for sure It's it's it's easier to get things in and out of a back seat if that door is slid out of the way Then if it's just open for sure, so it may be you know, okay We're not as obsessed with style, but this is a more practical thing and maybe I don't think in Europe They have the stigma towards van like cars that they have here Here like I don't know what it'll take for like vans to be cool in America like ever again ID buzz couldn't really do it and that's about the best we got. Yeah, I'd say the 26 carnival They call an MPV not a yeah, it looks kind of like an SUV, but it's got a sliding door Yeah, wait a century, so there's a few out there, but we don't have them to in the ruby one in the star Says if you could have a watchmaker design and build a car Who would you choose and what would they produce? I mean, I would love to see Richard meal build an actual sports car I mean their watches regardless of what you think about how they're how they look they're not They're certainly not for everybody and most of them are not for me, but the material science the engineering There's a lot. There is a lot to that fire pop Probably a reason they sponsor a lot of F1 drivers. Yeah, you look at the car you look at the watch you go Yeah, that kind of makes sense. I mean all of their athletes and Whatever influencers or whatever that that they represent or they represent them however you're supposed to say that They wear a watch to do activities where you're specifically told not to wear watches tennis golf Shooting Racing cycling these are activities that if you go into the forums people literally say don't wear an automatic watch while doing this Because it'll mess up the watch and so Richard meal goes you think so and they build watches that are for these activities and so like that kind of like technological technological achievement I Think their cars would look weird as hell Who makes the crazy watches that are like, you know, Jacob $500,000 with like the crazy Complication movement Jacob. They'll be interesting to see what they come up with it might look like the Blastelene brothers car Well, I I wrote for road and track this month about the Jacob and co the new Bugatti watch Which is a we find ourselves in a hilarious crossroads because historically there have been many Car themed watches and most of them are shitty the only really good car themed watches are the tag Carrera the Rolex Daytona The tag Monaco or Hoyer Monaco And that's kind of it There's not a lot of other car themed watches that like really work most of them are fucking We're a show part Millie Millie. That's pretty good, but many of them are corny as fuck We now have Bugatti has released a watch themed car. They've they've fucking inverted that shit So we now have the tour beyond a car named after a watch complication that has visible fucking watch gears doing the dials They fucking flipped that and so now buga Jacob has now come out with the Jacob Bugatti tour beyond the watch version of the watch version of the watch version of the watch It's we're in the fucking meta land for billionaires now And so this thing is like a zillion complications and you know, it looks kind of stupid But it actually if you think about the engineering behind it, it's really incredible the the complications of the Jacob and co Bugatti tour beyond themed after the Bugatti tour beyond I Wonder what this will cost. It's like eight hundred thousand dollars or something. It's fucking insane. It's it's it's it's it's an unfathomable amount of money although hilariously This morning I was browsing on reddit because I still do browse on reddit once in a while and there was a post There was a picture of Jay Z who was a fucking insane watch collector wearing the Patek Grandmaster chime which is like a three million dollar watch There's like maybe 20 people and the planet that can build a watch like this It has like 20 complications and is dude has it has 1400 parts Okay Think about this the the notice Canyon Okay, is 41 millimeters Okay, and it's it's 11 millimeters thick Okay, the Grandmaster chime and this has I want to say this has like 240 something parts in it. Okay The Grandmaster chime is a millimeter Half a millimeter thinner than this and four millimeters smaller in diameter than this Wow, and it has 1,400 parts in it How many parts is yours have again to like 250 Wow like So so and actually I saw this reddit thread where The first comment was like honestly. Why would something like this be worth so much money? They don't know watches and also they because it's fucking to say if someone's watches worth three million dollars You might as well say you know what I mean there they came from space or something But then you know and it was a bunch of snark and then a guy who knew a lot about watches I assume it's a guy wrote a very lengthy explanation and you just saw a flood of comments underneath it They were like I never cared about watches at all But this is fucking crazy and now I'm like researching the engineering of like crazy watches Whoa, and so double-faced. Yeah, you flip it. Oh my god. It's got complications on the back the shit spins, dude Yeah, it's 20. It's got like eight features You know the way go to the list of complications if you scroll down, I'm sure I zoomed in on you did. I'm sorry there is a The the list of complications is so fucking extraordinary And it's shit, you know half of it is stuff that you never use but it's it also is a grand and petite sonnary It's like a full chiming mechanism. So like when you press the button it just chimes the time out on you know Like your own personal church bell. Yeah, yeah Where does it so chime me? Does it have it? There there go down grand complications so It's it doesn't even it's not even on the website yeah, it does not even oh that's it on the right grandmaster chime Oh, this is it. Yeah. Oh man. I was looking the wrong picture before we Wanted just has jewels on it. Oh, okay But but you can get it get it with or without the baguettes But I just want to see read the list of complications because that's important. It's got to have it Case to the movement click expand the movement Alright, here we go the list of complications Grand and petite sonnery. That's a chiming mechanism minute repeater with chime on three classic gongs Strike work mode display now That's that's a display dial that tells you what mode the chiming is in alarm with time strike alarm on off indication aperture date repeater movement and strike work power reserve indication so it has two Barrels of power one for the the movement to actually tell the time and then a separate barrel that just powers the chiming function Strike work isolator indication. That's a function to separate the two barrels Second time zone day night indicator for the second time zone instantaneous perpetual calendar so that does the day the date the month and the year for the net until the year 2100 so it knows leap years it knows the day of the week everything you never have to change reset it for a hundred years or For 74 years good Lord Day date on both dials month and leap year by the hands four digit year display moon phase 24-hour minutes sub dial crown position indicator No stop watch dude click on but That this cannot this is powered by fucking springs and gears. Yeah, there's no I can't punch in on that What a shame To punch in on the movement because you can see oh So that's one side of it and then on the other side You can see if you click on the back those in the center. Those are the two power barrels in black Oh, no, those are the date wheels. Excuse me the power barrels are you see the the big disc on the big solid Disc on the bottom left at eight o'clock and then another one those discs have the power in them. Oh, that's where the springs are. Yeah Good Lord. Yeah Yeah incredible engineering fucking crazy stuff. Yeah So I'd want to see what a million dollars what these folks would build a car, you know What car would they make sure that would be it would be weird to have like nine wheels and go every direction Yeah, or like MB and F is like what if a car looked more like a hamburger? I only clutch kick on the second date says racers Always do whatever it takes to win was there a race car driver that was so detrimental to their sport It would have been better if they never raced at all. I'm sure it is but I don't know them. Yeah, I don't I'm not sure You know, we read we read about people that acted badly, but in such a charming way they became legends You know, we don't know anybody that acted so badly that they were a stain on the entire sport I mean, maybe you could talk about like that the coke running or weed running I'm so we're looking up that there was a driver who got famous He was a good driver in NASCAR, but then he got famous because he died of AIDS And that was very rare and I think he gave a lot of people AIDS So that wasn't a great look for work But I don't know if he was a net negative like his presence or was he you know also like a legend For also like this question. I think refers to someone who behaved badly on the track Not like a guy who was like also a rapist. You know, yeah, I mean you could also look at Recently was the F1 drivers named Mazapin the guy, you know Dad was like a Russian oligarch the sponsorship was not great You know, it was a bad look and during the beginning of the Ukraine war He also was a shit driver like he hit people he crashed a lot and then he had a bad attitude He blamed the car a lot of the time for mistakes that were his because his teammates were doing fine like all in Yeah, that was just like I don't think he really helped F1 in any way. I agree Unpimp your auto you've mentioned some new cars that sound bad But what new cars stand out as sounding good anything under 50k? Mustang GT Mustang GT, absolutely, you know, any any Dodge Charger Challenger. Well, I'm not anymore I think the I think the GR Corolla sounds pleasant. I think the Civic the Civic type R Absolutely sounds pleasant as does the Integra type s. I think they sound pleasant. They're not mind-blowing Lee great. I mean a lot of things that make cars sound really good is that makes small engines sound really good Are not included with stock cars. Yeah, ITB's and shit like that, you know, like you kind of have to like Like for like an affordable car like you kind of have to like tune it to make it sound Yeah, put an intake on it something here the induction. Yeah But Under under I mean The okay, all right the the the Hyundai ends They don't sound bad. They sound they sound nice for what they are. Yeah, they sound nice for what they are Subaru's used to but now they sound like everything. Yeah, they don't really do it for me anymore. Yeah Yeah, I mean I got it I think I think I mean GR Corolla just barely slides under the wire Yeah, the Z I think the Z sounds nice, you know, that's the sport in the 40s keep it quiet everybody Don't make these v6 is too loud. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah for sure. That's the game that keep the v6 keep that chill. Yeah Re-education through snap lift off oversteer very good Is now the last chance to get a GT 350 before they go? Absolutely bonkers Jason Fenske ball one. He did why are they about to go? Absolutely bonkers? Why would that be? Maybe are they just the last corner people haven't they had maybe they haven't risen someone said below for the downs A question that is the L1 so for like 120 grand Maybe it was a zero mile car, but like that car was fifty five thousand dollars. So that's doubled I don't know sure well, they don't make Camaros anymore. Yeah, I mean that's you don't make these They've the zeal it was probably a one out zeal one one le Well miles, you know, let final year of production some of that sold the Hendrick and those those will be those will be valuable and GT 350 ours like a GT 350 Not talking about maintenance, but money and money out is a safe place to park money presuming it works You might go through tires you might go through breaks And they might be expensive to ensure but if you're just talking about purchase price and sale price Not a bad not a bad place Used a car with 7,000 miles was sold three days ago in bat for 50 grand Well, that would have been a great first ownership experience 7,000 miles in seven or eight years and fucking let's are and one with half the miles was sold two days ago for 75 grand Wow, so $25,000 more for half the miles It sucks it sucks that it pays to not drive your cars You know what I mean if you if it's that's a such a bummer. I hate that that's a thing, but it just is but that's why I Don't know that's why for me cars are not Really for making money there for therefore enjoying the money. I made somewhere else well I mean look for 50 grand, you know, you could choose between a Barely specced up new GT and I know I know old versus new versus use is not fair Yeah, but like if money's real we're not doing the car review right now But if money's real like you could get a 350 are probably drive it for free for a year Yeah, and I'll have car play and shit and then sell it again versus the other one will lose money. Yeah Perndle Bindle says I'm spiraling down the bad decision train with late 2020 Germans a 2017 Audi s8 a 2018 a BMW m7 60 Or Alpina b7 and a 8 2018 s 63 are all about the same price right now How fucked would it buy I be and what similar or better options of my stupidly ignoring a bro You're ignoring the best one the Panamera turbo s is the fucking used German sedan you want Full fucking stop does handle it drives way better than all of those it does it it goes stops and turns better It's built as good or better. It's not as like screen heavy as the BMWs 2017 s8 they're gonna stop making parts for that really soon and Yeah, I would I would be in I'd be on team Panamera all fucking day. Yeah Yeah, and they got better and better looking with each generation Yeah, and you could you could you could even just say even if you got a gts with the NA v8 That sounds so they sound awesome, and they're still very fast. Yeah Racing Bulls on parade says what are your thoughts on the Honda CRZ? Now since they've come back into view lately as a somewhat as a forgotten gem or cult classic Is it a forgotten gem that was judged too harshly? No not at all I reviewed one when it was new mm-hmm dull as fucking rocks and nothing has happened to make it more interesting since so Enjoy yourself. I'd have to drive it with because we drove one when they were new and I was so new to press cars I thought it was cool and exciting, but I would have to drive it again I thought any press car I did exciting because I was driving my shitty Miata. Yeah, it was not it was slow and It wasn't a hybrid did nothing. I mean Which was weird like that was a strange choice use of space they they they Tried to smash cut a CRX and an insight mm-hmm, and it ended up just being an insight Like a CRX look like a CRX like yeah, they had done, you know a very lightweight, you know a real classic Honda I'd have been on board, but that's a good-looking car. All is rock is a bummer riders on the Geo storm. That's very good. Oh Well we'd sort of just talked about that one literally those same fucking cars. It was that random Or did you read that I really before I mentioned? Darien Luxe what is the future of the Camaro and what would you like to see Chevy do with it? I want to see them make it smaller. That's what I want. They're not gonna do that They get smaller keep the engine fine. I got a one word for you burlenetta Camaro burlenetta no, I'm talking about no the slimming of the Camaro in the 1980s Just give me give me a burl a Camaro burlenetta. It was the it was the elegant It was the Lamborghini LP 400 of elegant Camaro designs No, I mean the Iraq this thing early before Iraq before it got 79 86 Yeah, but the early the early one specifically and you want the teatop. I assume yeah, of course, of course do I think it's time to retro future The 1980s Camaro now that we have exhausted the people who really give a shit about the 1960s design Mm-hmm. It's time we pander To us not a bad idea But I just I want the cars to stop getting bigger because the Camaro this could be this fantastic driver's car Performance is amazing. Yeah handling was very good visibility. We all talked about they could fix that But the car just kept getting bigger right but think if you did it like this like burlenetta style like You could make it almost kind of like Halfway back to the C7 Corvette Where it was more like a four-seat Corvette You know that that had the 80s styling then then like a 60s muscle car I've spent by the way This one minute thinking about this. This is not something I've been like secretly pandering on the side So I'm kind of kind of running on the fly. I love what you love But I think it's time for like I like I rocks have aged actually quite well Like how they look Not how they built or how they drive but how they look yeah So like I think a very a very talented person with a vision could update the I rocks burlenetta styling in a way that was like smaller than the Existing car, but like very dope. That's true Because also it's kind of like you want them to take what Hyundai did with that concept and do that with Camaro Hmm, and you know and I know the sixth gen was smaller than the fifth gen but like let's just keep yeah keep going right keep going Does smoldering rim I've been seeing vin fast cars everywhere in Dallas How did that make it here but not BYD or the big Chinese brands because it's from Vietnam. Yeah, Vietnam ain't China Could I mean I mean I think if you dropped Donald Trump in one versus the other he'd have a real hard time telling the difference where he was but Legally speaking and the way our country is set up Vietnam ain't China and you can sell cars that are made in Vietnam But not cars that are made in China. Yeah, that's how I mean just dropping it's got a good article on their finances But they're losing money on every car, but I feel like they were tariffed even before Trump came into office The prices on the vin fast in the beginning were like 70 grand for a car that drove From all of our colleagues drove like shit looked bad from a brand new company never heard of like it's just too expensive So I think maybe they let him in like yeah, sure no one's gonna buy these but it's not but the BYD They're for self like 12 grand. Yeah, like that will eat everybody's lunch for sure Uh-huh Fo sho moco It's maybe should be fo mo sho co was Mo co-show fo sho motor company right for show. Oh, I thought it was a tour a torus s8 show Fo sho moco. Oh, yeah, got it. It's both. Yeah, I don't know Just watch Johnny's review of the facelift Audi RS3 I was surprised by how much more he and Misha liked it over the pre facelift due to the tuning of the rear diff Did you guys think it made that much of a difference? If so, would it be enough to upgrade? It's really funny I I think unless you had the two cars immediately back to back You probably couldn't tell the difference with the diff 99% of the time and you only really can tell When you start to break traction on a track I think I Had a very tough time Telling you that oh, this is better because of the new diff Without without literally having the older car right there to go, okay Well, this this this comes out of a corner here here. It's really it's it can only put so much power to the back Yes, it's they improve the system a lot, but like it's not like real rear-wheel drive So it doesn't do the thing Consistently every time whereas like at Thunder Hill performance car of the year we had the RS3 and we had So I don't know some other fucking rear rear-wheel drive car. I forget what it was I don't I don't remember. I'm sorry, but like I could do the rear-wheel drive car. I could do the same slide More or less exactly the same six times Maybe I wouldn't quite do it right, but the car would respond to the input the same way You do you try it five or six times in in John not just the RS3 with the golf bar Yep, and it doesn't necessarily do it exactly the same every time. Yep, and it doesn't mean it can't do it or It doesn't mean it's not it's not substantially better than like an old System that doesn't have it like in the a3 But like is last year's to this year's like that much of a difference like just a lot more There's a lot more electronics that are filtering what physics You know you're trying to get physics to send a message to the tire But in between that there's all this like torque shuffling front and back and then also side to side So it's hard to get it. It's hard to tell at the same message every time. Yeah. Yeah So I would say Any upside of the diff is offset by the downside of the squeal The other car had a round wheel. This one has a squeal and I don't really like it So, you know take from that what you will Hmm How do I pronounce that? Mateo's nuts. Oh Mateo's nuts. Oh, hey ours. Mateo's nuts. Got it Yeah, it's speculated that the Ferrari luce will mostly be sold to people wanting allocations for other Ferraris What current Ferraris would be worth having to buy a luce at 600k none of them. Sorry There's not a Ferrari on the market. That's worth having to buy an extra car to get Yeah, because you can just get a 296 if you want one, right? Yeah, and I think that's the best one they make I don't I don't want to jump up to yeah as of nine year the f80 or like those look terrible We had this conversation on the last podcast. What other cuz it cuz it Let's say you have to buy a luce at 600k to get into a 296 Special at 600k you're now spending 1.2 million to get the car you actually want so that that brings us back to last week In an evaluto is fucking a million bucks once you're done What would you rather give that money to Ferrari for exactly with their current product lineup like? Nothing actually Sigs inside Says what are your favorite type of shoes to wear for long full-day road trips and an automatic transmission? My heels get sore in my Nike running shoes and the accessories of my crocs get caught in the pedals Crocs with accessories get a set of car crocs Driving crocs would be fucking sick. I would love to collab with crocs for like a rounded heel That's the key driving croc. That would be so dope But that's the answer to this person's question is find a shoe with a rounded heel I had some onotsuka tigers that had a rounded heel. They're hard to find makes a huge difference versus the squared one That that's like the biggest thing So if I'm true it truth be told if I'm doing a long full-day road trips Very often I'm fucking with the radar cruise control and I might even be taking my shoes off Just stretching my legs straight out behind the pedals just chilling like that if I have radar cruise control I can count on I could do that for hours and hours and hours I basically drove across the country the tycon doing that Having said that I normally do just wear actually I'm wearing them today. I wear these these are I might I'm sitting like AC Slater in the fucking seats. I can't show my shoes, but these are new balance What number are they nine three threes and they're sort of like New balances version of like a skateboarding shoe. I guess a casual sneaker with sort of a flat Slash-rounded heel and they're not they're not as wide as my other sneakers So they're good for driving and I like driving in those actually Mark Ferrari the tired smoker. Oh Once says summarize Who Alan Mann is we talked about in the last show okay Alan man was basically the European gene Haas Alan man racing ran touring cars and did rally and did a fielded GT 40 at Le Mans Had drivers like Sterling Moss and Graham Hill and built commas cars for oh James Bond Goldfinger and Chitty Chitty Bang Bang Okay, there we go. Thank you for that Johnny Evie guberman have either of you driven a Jag X KR or X KRs Yes, I have a review of it on the fucking channel the 175 edition go watch it great good video very fun Cartier LL Cartier says why? Is it that the luxury watch industry has not adopted the customizing options that the car industry has it seems wild? Is it such a profit center for companies like Ferrari? Do watch companies rely strongly on impulse purchases has it been trialed and failed before if you mean The like specking out a watch that you sort of order Porsche design does that you can actually order a watch to match your car Many like Rolex has a whole quote off catalog section Where if you're super rich and a fucking good you can order things that are not available to the public Sometimes you have input in what they look like and sometimes you don't they'll just present you with a thing and say you can order it If you're like a super fucking boss at Patek and you get a world timer they could put your preferred Cities in their time zone Thing they did that for mine. They did. Yeah, I've seen one of those custom Time zones before that's pretty crazy. So like I did all the cities in Ohio. Yeah most It's just the same time so just Cleveland Cleveland you spin it around it just doesn't do anything right big time zone So at a very very high level you can do some sort of customizations Most watches are are mass produced and just don't you know, they're not even even even Rolex even Most luxury brands are the watches are made predominantly by machines and so So it's not worth the trouble for them. Yeah. Yeah Wait To in the ruby one in the star I thought it would be cool if a car's turn signals and hazards could sink to the BPM of whatever music was playing in the car Both to make driving more fun and encourage proper signaling thoughts. I think we need standards Just signal to signal and that wouldn't That wouldn't add enough fun. It would add a lot of cost to the purchase of your vehicle And now you're a computer to control the light tempo in every integrated Shazam and Yeah, that'd be expensive. No, no, no Lemonhead says any thoughts as to why car guys seem to hold the Terminator Cobra in higher regard than the S197 GT 500 oh, would you like to take this? I know why I mean that's the S197 drove poorly under size Rear tires it was it was just it was a weird car and I think especially the early early ones were underbraked Undertired felt like more nose heavy than the old car did I also think there's a nostalgia element, right? Like the Terminator just happened. It landed in our brains locked in it was the right time Landed with so so the GT 500 also had a solid axle still until 25 to until the most recent one has solid axle and In the early in the 0708 ones like was Very shitty like I drove it when it was new it was super shitty them things are trash in 01 Ford got sued class action the cars weren't making the power and so They fucking they had to fix all these cars. They had to like retune them all it was very embarrassing They said a car is never gonna make less than advertised horsepower again They'd their their next car had this fucking blower on it. That was the first thing but it also had independent rear suspension So it was the best handling mustang of all time as well with the new technology and all that kind of shit So it was a groundbreaking car in mustang And it also happened to drive pretty good for what it is whereas the 500 Kind of didn't yeah, I mean I bet if you put equal tires on them I bet the old car would out handle the new one just because of the live axle situation And then the holding it higher regard is definitely among people that like Drive the cars modify the cars like things like that if you asked a blue chip collector Which they'd rather have in their collection. They'd probably tell you an early GT 500 those cars aren't driven They sit in collections. They have no miles on them probably because they're sucked to drive But they're actually decent investments shell bees are undriven shell bees as we just mentioned are historically very good investments They look cool. They made lots of power. Yeah, did not from what I've heard from people at magazines They couldn't get it to hit the top speed that was advertised. Oh, well that was the 2014 the 12 to 14 Yeah, so that one they couldn't but I'm talking earlier than that. Yeah Riders on the Geostorm. Oh, why because these are the new questions So so this is repeated because we didn't cover it from last week. Is that why no No, we just covered the repeated the old questions and now we're in new questions, but they're posted by the same page Right, but we know this was that question. Oh, right copy and paste Oh, I move some up. That's right BB come back says what is the newest car you'd want to rest oh, man The newest car In 20 years I don't I wouldn't need to do anything newer than 20 years Is I would take an out a new alpha quad and just redo the interior I think the exterior is stunning and I think it's fast enough and all that stuff But I think if you could make an interior that was equally beautiful and not just part shared with fiat That would be pretty cool. That's not it's not red. There's no there's no resto. That's just mod because it's new There has to be a resto like I'm trying to clap that one and you rest of it Like what you know, what are we defining? It's a made-up game who gives the shit Yeah, exactly. Koji Koji says if you're running a rear seat delete and half-cage combo in your car Would you prefer to leave the rear interior bare metal or cover it up with some soft material like cloth? Like GT3 club sports spec. I Mean look That's if you're doing that like that's a track car, right? But like carpet doesn't weigh very much like it whatever whatever like Basic cloth it would cost to cover up like the the bare metal part of your rear seat dude. It's like Probably the same amount of weight is like a gallon of gas Yeah, like if you're not driving for time It would look so like the bare metal inside on a car that's driven on the street looks like shit It's just it looks like an unfinished vehicle. I've gone bare metal twice now The my mini I took the rear seat out and I did not do the get the nice $800 rear seat delete cover thing and then the Fox body I took the rear seat out and did not get a professionally rear re in both times. I Absolutely regretted it. It saved me no noticeable weight at all It just made the car louder in a bad way and especially if the car is a trunk Which your Fox body did the noise that comes through like when I fold my seats down in my car It's so much louder that was a tire noise that comes through so having a panel is a good idea. Yeah, I don't Have cage like if you drive it on the street, I just think it looks so much nicer It'll look like a higher-class vehicle. Yeah for sure. All right, there it is. Thanks everybody. That was the questions We appreciate you guys very very much Look out for these announcements for when we have tickets available for our Detroit show in August I believe it's August 13th Thursday of Dream Cruise Don't forget. We're giving away a Porsche 911 turbo. We're gonna have a new video about that Coming up very soon, but the link is in our Instagram bio that that game runs until August as well I believe it's August 20th 992 turbo s Modded by us. It's going to be real delightful. We've driven it a bunch and it's fucking so sick. 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