1161: Aaron Rai and the PGA Championship

The right club. Be the right club today. Yeah. Now that's better than most. How about in? That is better than most. Better than most. Expect anything different. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No. Wing up live show presented by our friends at title as we are going to put the 2026 PGA championship in the books. Aaron Rye is your champion. I am solid joined here by my guy, Mr. DJ Pie. Hello, DJ. Hello, solid. Good to be with you. What a week. What a week in a lot of ways. We got a lot, a lot to talk about and a lot of different directions we can go many different ways we can go. TC is here. Hello, TC. Hello gentlemen. Double glove for the audio listeners. As mentioned, we are brought to you by our friends at titles, the number one ball in golf and choice of your PGA champion, Aaron Rye had his pro V1 on a string, and he was engaging almost five shots with this approach play alone over the weekend and Aronamac. Any guesses what age Aaron first put the pro V1 in play. 15. 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He was, he was what, I think he was, he was 300 through eight like for the week. Yes. And ended up finishing at nine under. So you go ahead and do the math there. He eagled nine. What a shot in there. Cashed a 40 footer. Birdie's 11 birdies, 13 birdie, 16 drains a 68 footer on 17. I think the entire golf world was just a gassed by, I think once that went in, I mean, it was just, just insane stuff to go up by four and, and slam the door and claim his first major championship. A couple of stats, if you'll allow me the first English winner. We're going to have some fun with this tonight. I think first English winner of the PGA championship in the stroke play era. First English winner of the PGA since T sees guy, long Jim Barnes in 19, 19, believe he also wanted 19, 16. And then they had to wipe out a bunch of them for World War one. Aaron Rye is the, this is a great stat. First PGA champion in history to lower his score in each round. Started with a 70 shot 69 and round two, 67 in round three. And of course a 65 today. That is only progression seven times at major championships. Not since Marco Mira's at the 98 masters. It kind of fits his whole thing of like getting better every year. Exactly. I saw somebody earlier. You said he's gotten better every single year since 2018. Like God, I'm proud of you, T C. You want to talk set up so bad right now, but we're muscling the setup talk. I know I'm proud of you. I'm proud of you. That was a wise, no setup talk challenge here. There was a wide opening. He is the first non-American to win the first round. Perfect. He is the first non-American to win the PGA since Jason day back in 2015. We talked about that on the preview show. Last 10 winners of the PGA championship have all been us Americans. He's the first European to win the PGA since roaring McElroy in 2014. This is a good stat. I saw it floating around first time since the masters started in 1934 that the Europeans have won the first two majors of the season. How about that? Whoa. That's kind of a mind blower, huh? Yeah. That's crazy. I guess it was. Yeah. Last one. Last one I got as, as you may have been confused because my, you know, my man was, was pummeling the golf ball, 330 down the stretch. I think he hit it like three thirds. I'd listen, I know the fairways are firm out there. I know there's some downhill shots. I know what the ball is rolling. I think he hit it 338 there on 16. It's the par five. And then I think he hit it 330 on 18. I know he was juiced up. Aaron Rye ranks 160th out of 166 on the PGA tour and driving distance this year. Let me give you the rundown of the people that he is ahead of. Okay. These are the only people on the PGA tour. He hits it farther than Lucas Glover, TGL player, Lucas Glover, Davis, Chatfield, Matt Kutcher, compensation, Davis, Chetfield stage, five foot five. It was Chetfield, Matt Kutcher, Andrew Putnam, Brian Campbell and Brant Settiker. Those are the only guys that, that hit it shorter than your PGA champion, Aaron Rye. So, solidly, I, I say to you, Whoa, it makes sense of this for me. We live in a world where Aaron Rye is a major champion. He's obviously a very good player. Obviously we know he works hard. How did this happen? I do not direct that question to me. It's one of the most perplexing major championships I've covered. We've ever covered, I think, trying to figure out what exactly just happened here. Again, this is backwards looking. This is not like, hey, what you guys thought the golf course would play like this is back. We are looking backwards at like what was favored here. What was the test? What happened this past week? The golf course favored bombers, not like drastically, but it was favored driving distance over accuracy. And it was a massive putting contest, huge, almost all the variants of this tournament came out of the putting. You just mentioned Aaron Rye, 160th out of 166 guys on tour and driving distance. And he's also a below average putter, like well below average putter. Like maybe you think like, oh, he's an accurate player. He's scrappy with the wedges and he puts it really well. Hasn't putted it very well. And he won this golf tournament going away. Like slam the door made the last hour of it non-existent. Even if you had told me like looking backwards, forget how wrong we were in our all our predictions, pre-term it looking backwards. Here's what we know about how it played out. I don't think he would have been in my top 100 guys that I would have said, like, oh, he's about to win this thing. Like it is. So he played Myrtle Beach last week. It's unbelievable. It's crazy. It's crazy. He was 39th off the tee on the back of 68% driving accuracy. And he was second in approach play, which he rolled the rock, but a great this week. He did roll the rock and it seems like he had, I do not mean this for as a backhanded thing on the, on the Rory stuff. There's a lot of, we're not talking setup, but he seemed like he had a plan for how he's, how he's playing the golf course. You know, even you get to 15, like monster par four and he's hitting less than driver because he knows that green is massive. And if he's in the fairway, he's going to make a four. And that's exactly what happened. You know, and he didn't, he didn't freak out when, when he got to the top of the leaderboard, he just kind of stayed to his plan and just executed the F out of it. I mean, it's just, it's, it's crazy. How did he go down the stretch? What hold did he hit that like low slinging hook? Well, was that 10? He hit 18 yesterday. That was sick. Like, oh yeah, 18, but like he, you know, like he hit the little car V slinging hook on 10 and got it running down the hill a little bit. Like there was some shop making. Yeah. And yeah, you mentioned that he, he averaged 304 and a half yards off the tee today, which was 63rd in the field today. He also probably had more three woods today than the other guys. Yeah. That's including all tee shots. Yeah. That's, that's, that's on everything, including the other three would he hit off all 15, but no, it, it's, yeah, again, we're going to get to set up stuff. I promise I'm going to get you waiting for that. But like we did, we did rock for set up. All the other best players in the world today and all week and all weekend, like not execute the shots he hit, right? I mean, it's, we'll definitely have some issues with how this was set up and how this tournament played out, but at the same time, you're all playing for the watermaker. Once you get it going and one person like made the leap, like, I want to say it was impossible for anyone to make a run or make a move today. Based on what we saw, we saw somebody do it. It was just a guy we weren't expecting to happen and you have to tip your cap and, and it's weird and it's awkward because it just doesn't, you want the major championship stories to make sense from a narrative standpoint of like, ah, it's Tommy Fleetwood's time. It's Justin Rose, you know, he needed a second major here. Ludwig, you know, it's supposed to make sense based on everything we've seen coming of it into it. And this one makes absolutely no sense, even less sense than J.J. Spahn makes, but that's why, you know, I want to say that's why we love golf. At the same time, this wasn't the most exciting watch, but look, these things can happen in majors. They have not tended to happen. We've had an unbelievable run of major winners over the last five, six, seven, eight years really dating back to Jimmy Walker, T.C. And, but this, this, this can happen. I think we've been calling for one of these and for quite some time and it finally happened. Yeah. I think that's fair. I think the other side of that coin is that is why they play the games. That is why the stories matter. That is why it's fun to see a story like Aaron and a guy and a guy who works his ass off and a guy who nobody says a bad word about who just chips away and gets the most out of it. He is slow. You can say that about him. That's true. Mahalo T.C. He, yeah, he also gets the most out of his talent, right? Like he's not a guy that probably was born to win major championships. Right. And he just had to absolutely figure out how to do it and squeeze every possible ounce out of it. Max, Max told me a story this morning. This is where he texted me back and forth and he said that this, this year after RIV, there were no flights to West Palm like that, like late that night to go play the cognizant. So Aaron Rye caught a flight to Miami, drove up to West Palm that night just so that he could have another full day on that whole Monday to practice at the cognizant. He's like, that's, that's who he is. Like that's how hard he works. Xander had another story. I saw that would have been an American flight. Imagine that. Imagine how bad you got to want it. This is another good one from Xander's presser that Kyle Porter tweeted out. Essentially the crux of it, you know, Xander gets to the Scottish open and he thought it'd be fun to go out and putt at nine o'clock at night with his caddy Austin and Aaron Rye still out there putting at 9am, finishing up his normal routine. And then he goes to the gym at 945 and Xander said this was three years ago. I think that's what it's about to be a major champion. You put in the work when nobody's looking super pumped for him and his team. I think that's like, that's the takeaway, right? I mean, it's, yeah, I know we, we dump on the Zach Johnson's of the world, but it is cool when there's a guy who, Aaron Rye's a lot cooler than Zach Johnson. Sure. My point is there's a guy with iron covers and double gloves is a lot cooler than Zach Johnson. What a world. It's a, it's good when, I don't know, should we just bring in Neil? I feel like, I feel like Neil is like, Neil's mister, get everything out of your talent guy. Neil, have I set you up for that? Yes. So I'm running a little late tonight. Yeah. I think you are. I think this is, this is a win for, well, first off, get him on the team, T.C. For the lads club. Number one. Number two, I think it's a win for just golf coat, like infomercials, late night golf channel, golf lessons, you know, golf swing aides. I'm getting served on Instagram. You know, just like Aaron Rye strikes me as like, I will do anything to get a little bit better. And I, I appreciate the fuck out of that. I think there's a part of me, Neil, there's a part of me that's like, do we need to be inspired more people like that? Do we need to, do we need to be triggered by these people that they can win majors? You're not John Robb. You're not John Robb. You give anybody at the club hope of like, man, yo, if you go grind, if you go putt at 9 p.m., maybe you could win. And whether that, I'm happy for Aaron Rye, but whether that's a net positive or negative for golf remains to be seen. Is he the, is he the heir apparent to team Rose? Maybe. As far as squeezing all the juice out, he's got as many, he's got as many major championship wins as team Rose and Tommy combined. I had a football coach tell me, uh, my last day of practice, my senior year that I got more out of my talent than anybody ever recruited, which is the most backhanded copy. Oh yeah, I would never want to hear that. But I do agree that like the worst thing in the world is wasted talent. And I want to say that Aaron Rye is not wasting any, any drop of talent and he's, he's figured out a way. I mean, the driving accuracy, it was like, guys, he's almost, it's almost like he was looking around like, guys, we got to hit the fairway here. You know, I know, I know what the stats are saying, but it's just a lot less stressful if you're in the fairway. And these, I know you already hit on it, but, um, God, I was watching on a little bit of a delay. I was just chuckling. I mean, he's just hitting like laser beams from 230, like down the stretch. It was crazy man. He's the kind of guy, once he got out in front, I was like, I don't know how he's going to screw this up. Like he doesn't miss. You can't screw anything up at this course either. It reminded me of a double bogey perspective. I mean, some, somewhat recency bias, but like the Abu Dhabi event where it was kind of the same feeling where I saw, you know, you look at the leaderboard and it was like him and Rory and Tom, Tom. He got beat by Tommy and I think Nikolai Hoygar was up there, but it was just a lot of like big names, Ryder cupers. And then it's like, Oh, and here comes Aaron. I'm like, Oh yeah. Okay. I'm sure Aaron Ry is going to stare these guys down. And then he did. And he just kept hitting golf shot after golf shot after golf shot and, you know, I think he wanted to play off, but it's like, you know, with the birdie in the playoff. And I think I filed that away. Like the subconscious recesses of my brain of like, we'll revisit that if we ever need to. Like, I know I'm not going to think about that again, unless I have to. And so to your point, it was kind of the same feeling today where it was like, as soon as, you know, he made that essentially that par on 15 and then he hits the fairway on 16. I'm like, Oh God, it's over. It's so over. Like this is done. He's of course, he's not going to give it up. One thing like this is the guy that said a Guinness book of world records, like record for some questions about that. 207 consecutive putts from a distance of 10 feet. So DG, he's like the opposite of me. The discipline it takes. Is it a flat spot? Do you have to carve the little alley there? Like that you don't make 207. He's willing to try to do that. And I think in a tournament where it's like, yeah, man, there's just a lot of like, we got to hit it 25 feet and just the patients and the discipline. Like I got, you know, that was the test this week. And he passed it with flying colors. It just like played right into his strengths. I'm, I'm, I'm impressed because I can't do that. I would, I would have gotten greedy at some point, you know, me. Couple things here. Matt, who works on our social team, we're used to work for the PGA tour. He told us earlier today, he said Aaron rise truly the nicest person he had met in his three years of damn near talking to every single guy out there. Like that out of his way to be like this. Just say we're clear, like the nicest, truly the nice. And then he said there's a difference between kind and nice and Aaron rise kind. He said there's being cordial and professional and there's being kind and Aaron is the latter. And then we all tell you, Matt, we don't care. We don't care. We still want Robert Roy to with it. But there is somebody who needs to answer for, for this victory. Right. Somebody is getting absolutely stunted on. We do want to thank you. Thank you, Yeti for presenting this week's coldest moment. This was from the preview. We're getting a lot of emails about this. If we have it, Cody, could you please play it? No, we do not have it. We will have it here shortly, maybe potentially. We've broken down. All right, we're having technical difficulties here. I'll say this. Okay, I got some stats on Aaron ride. So he's 63rd ranked player in the world again, using data golf rankings, not the crypto WGR. Phil was 158th, 21 the PGA, but you got to go all the way back to Keegan in 2011 to find somebody that far down on the data golf rankings. Why Yang was 59, McKeel was 71, Beamer was 150. So this happens at the PGA way more than it happens at other majors. US Open, you got to go all the way back to Michael Campbell in 2005. He was 179th in the world and Open Championship Darren Clark are the only one only like higher rated people in the data golf rankings to win a major. But are you getting word? We do have our clip here. This is our Yeti coldest moment of the week. This is from the preview episode. How do you square your English kind of hatred with with what fits is doing right now. There was a lot of this is not last night. Yeah, I would call it. Hatred is not the right word. No, I'm just trying to call balls and strikes on the English and they're looking at a lot of called third strikes. Fun fact for you guys. You guys know Jim Barnes, the name Jim Barnes long Jim Barnes, long Jim Barnes, the only Englishman to win the PGA championship. And in fact, he won the first two planks in 1916 and 1919. No Englishman has won the PGA championship since 1919. It could be Harry Hall's music this week. Will that streak break? I wouldn't bet on it, but we'll see. You're ready. You're up for summer at Yeti. They want a quarter of men. It's good stuff. You're up for summer at Yeti.com. And we sorry big bigs out this weekend. He's got an his niece's graduation, but you know, we were going to miss an opportunity to dunk on there. Also want to shout out Lottie. Whoa, just for good measure one on the LPC. Just stunning on Randy as well. That was even colder than Bryson's coat on Thursday. Bryce had a lot of cold moments this week. The emails are rolling in from the blokes and chaps though. They want to roll with ready. They want a formal apology from the big guy. So look for that later this week as they should. Real quick. This was right under my nose the whole time and I didn't, I didn't pick up on the scent. Aaron Rye just running through some of his victories. Obviously we watched the wind them. We beat Grazerman after Kutcher didn't, you know, didn't think it was appropriate for Grazerman to continue playing. Like he was his father or something. But he shot 64 there. Like really like he shut the door there. He won the Hong Kong Open in 2018 over Matt Fitzpatrick. Not a national open, but. Kind of open. Yeah. Is that the one that gets into the Masters now? Yes. Economic zone open. He won the, the Scottish open in 2020 and a playoff of her Tommy BDE. He won the Abu Dhabi and a playoff of her Tommy last year. And then just getting word before it was a DP World Tour like full event. It was a challenge tour event. Kenya open in 2017. Yeah. It become magical when it became a TV World Tour event. Is that what the magic to call looks like the magic started in 2019. So he won the second to last bar clay as Kenya open. Anyway, I just wanted to call that out because that's, you know, kind of a feather in his cap as far as being a proper player with some BDs. It's true. What's the best way to tackle this? You want to go down the leaderboard a little bit and it's time. Just a slow, a slow methodical down the leaderboard starting starting T2. John Rom, I think is going to be Sean is going to be just ripe for conversation. 68 today for John Rom. A little bit scuffle and early he, well, I actually real hot start out of the gates with birdie, birdie kind of look like he was going to shoot 59 and then dumps a wedge in the bunker on number three drives it in the, in the shite on number seven makes a bogey and then just kind of stuck in neutral on the way in as many people kind of seem to be on that back nine all adds up to 68 and six under for the, for the week runner up. Neil, we, we knew it was going to be a big year for John Rom at the majors. We knew we were ready for him to answer the bell. This is the loudest. I would say that he's, he's answered it. What was your takeaway and wrong this week? Signs of life. I mean, at least like for me, because I haven't watched him play a ton, but I know the data has said that he's, he's a good player. The data said that he's, he's been a dude. Dee's, I want to commend you. You picked him not to win and you predicted that he would come in second. So I thought that was, that was kind of fun. Yeah, I, you know, I appreciate it. You can tell Rom he's, he's a pot ready to boil over at all times, but you tell he really cares. And I think he realizes the gravity of not letting this kind of thing slip away right now where he's at. So you got to feel like he's frustrated tonight. And I, I appreciate that he's frustrated. I guess is what I'm trying to say. I, it feels like it, it stings. And this one, this one feels like, I can't say when he should have snatched because Aaron Rodgers ran away with it. It's a, I, I kind of look at the putt when he made that putt on 17. I mean, they showed a camera angle of Ludwig and his caddy and they were both just kind of like, oh man, like, you know, like, well, I can't, you know, nothing I can do about it. And maybe Rom feels that way, but it feels like a lot of like the putt on, I think it was 15 down the hill, just a few spots where he's just, just couldn't get anything to drop. So got to think he's a little frustrated. I think Rom was glad to see him a little bit more level headed and it just seemed like less seething or simmering. Aside from assaulting a volunteer. Well, that was earlier in the week. He did a bad thing earlier in the week. And then Carrie Hague didn't actually, you know, abide by his own code of conduct as well. We didn't get a warning. I don't know. We don't know. We don't know. Probably should have been in jail. Assault. I kind of felt the same way. Maybe I'm just, you know, easy, easy to please, but yeah, it seemed like he kind of kept to the emotions in check. It seemed like I haven't seen him clap into the gallery for, for a while. That was nice to see after, after 18 days. Great. Great in the press room all week. Yeah. It's just more fun when he's involved, you know, I think there's been no, at least, at least for me, I feel like there's no like grave dancing, you know, over the last couple of years just stinks. Right. I think that's coming out of like 20, 22, 2023. It was like, Oh my God. I just, I can't wait to walk. Like we're reaching that point where, you know, it was almost, it was kind of like the Scotty thing where like, ah, this guy is, is this guy super exciting to watch what's going on until you start stacking up enough wins. They're like, okay, no, now I'm curious what this guy is doing every week. And it feels like we kind of had the rug pulled on us a little bit over the last couple of years at the major. So it's, I had a great time. He was the player I was most fascinated to see what was going to happen today. And he didn't get it done. But to your point, Neil, it's like, I, it wasn't really lack of, but this is don't tell me. This is, don't set, don't talk about the setup challenge, but it's, it couldn't really get anything going. Cause it was a lot of just putting from 30 feet and he wasn't the guy that made the putts, but he did pretty much everything else that he needed to do this week. And he got beat by one guy who made a bunch of those putts. Two things can be true. His, his record and major championship since going to live is below par and it's not reflective of his talent. And also it was extremely unlikely that he was going to stay down for a long time. Like the guy's game just like does not slump. He's the buoy. That's why they call him that. They were the Philly fans were calling him that pretty much heard every whole lot that I followed him out there on Thursday. But he's a massive talent that continues to play really good golf. It's just a ton of pressure on yourself when you only play four real tournaments a year and he's not handled that well up to this point. I think this is like a, he didn't win, of course, but like this, it's a fly the banner of like, okay, yeah, he's still one of the dudes. He's still a major championship contender and just not somebody you can kind of right off heading into major championships. And Shinnecock should set up quite well for him. I see, see no reason why Berkdale wouldn't, wouldn't as well. I'd be, I'd be stunned if he didn't top 10, both of them. And again, I would not be even remotely surprised if he won one of the last two majors of the year. Well, I mean, as a dude, he should, he should probably get on that. So he is a dude now. No, I don't know. According to you, he is. I'm correct. I can't chime in on this anymore. No, he needs to because those are, that's, that's what he's, that's your limitations. That was the kind of what DJ and I were talking about at the beginning of the year. It just, it puts a lot of pressure on him. And I thought this was the first time it felt like he answered, answered the bell on that pressure. He rose up and he didn't, he didn't fold like last year at Quail. It felt like he kind of blew it at the end. It didn't feel like he blew it today. Dige, I think I'll push back a little bit on like the ride making 30 foot putts. Like he did some of that, but I think also like, I think if you look at Ry's scorecard and just what he did on the weekend, like his approach play was fucking awesome. Like he crushed people with his wedges this weekend too. Wedges and mid irons. I mean, he was, he was exceptional kind of just approach play generally speaking. And then, and then backed it up with some good putting, but like, I think he made 12 birdies and one eagle on the weekend. Ron made eight birdies total on the weekend. No eagles. So it's kind of, you know, it's kind of like, he just went out and got it. You know, I feel like Ron today, what he had, like he birdied nine and then he just, what he made six pars in a row after that, and then birdied 16. But aside from the two birdies on the, on the par fives there, like no birdies on any par fours or par threes from three to 18 today. Well, that's very kind of reminded me a little bit of how Rory played too when you get to him in a second, but it's, it's kind of that major championship sort of style, but for whatever it, it weirdly wasn't as rewarded at a venue like this for some reason, because everybody's kind of stuck in neutral. Do you know what I mean? What it's like, he's, he's not driving it far off. He's either hitting the fairway or he's just off and he's playing to the fat parts. And it's, I mean, it's just a bunch of two putting and a lot of majors are like, Oh, that's great. That's what you need to do. And for whatever reason, there just wasn't the opportunities. He didn't take advantage of 13. And that's kind of, I guess what I'm talking about with not taking anything away from Rye, but it's like, he made a bomb on nine. He made a bomb on 17 and Rob didn't take advantage of 13. And it's like, well, there's three shots right there. And so they didn't hit it all that different outside of like kind of the stunners that, that Rye hit on the last three holes. Rob and JT also hit it in that one patch of rough like right of seven. Every time anybody went in there, I was like, what is that? Where did that come from? Yeah, the really high stuff, right? Yeah. Again, this is not yet D.J. Promise commentary on the course setup. But I think if we, if we think about what, what just happened here, like a ton of the, but the shorter part fours, the approaches for basically everyone in the field are going to come in from a closer range. The PGA of America's reaction to that was to make the pins super difficult. What the advantage is that Rom and Rory and a lot of the best players typically have in majors when the test is more stretched out, that you're going to have more fair or more approachable pins because a lot of guys are coming in with nine, eight, seven, six irons based on kind of that range. And now they're longer off the tee and they're going to have shorter irons in there. And they're really good with those clubs that they over 72 holes, gain, gain, gain, gain, gain, gain. Where you could still kind of bomb it out there. You could hit it kind of wherever you, not necessarily wherever you want it out there, but it was good to get it out there. And there was openings in the front of the greens and you could run shots up. But even if you were in the fairway with wedges, it just required such a precise wedge shot that that is not the specialty of Rom. That is not the specialty of Scotty. That's not the specialty of Rory that we're waiting for them to make their move and kind of hit the hit the nozz and go. It was not playing in their hands to be able to do that. They were going to need to make a ton of puss. They were going to need to do something special that wasn't really fit with their game to, you know, to take off and take this over. So they weren't, the kind of their superpowers were just muted and mitigated in a way. And the chances of somebody in the Rai group or Smalley group or Schmid group doing something way outside the norm of what they would do is more likely to play out in that kind of setup than it would have been in a more stretched out major championship venue. Can I say one thing there? I agree with that with Rom. I think you summed up ROMs round really well. Rory, I would say he, I thought he played super patient on all the hard holes and then he blew it like on nines of perfect example. Like he just didn't hit the shots today. Like you can't leave a seven iron short after you hit 390 dude. Like, like we got a house on that and then 13. That was a cool pen. You do have to hand it to Kerry. So, you know, Rory just, Rory was just like, you know, lying in wait and then it's just like build his drink all over his shirt on like the spots where he was, you know, supposed to handle it. And that's so I would say like some of that's like on Rory specifically, you know what I mean? Like got to pass the test right in front of you and fail. And I just think the test, we'll get to the test, but I think it was interesting to see a guy like Rai, especially once he got the lead, a real processed based guy. TC deliberate slow, we'll call it. But a guy that's never going to deviate from like that, that set, that was perfect for him of like, okay, I'm just going to do, he's very deliberate about what he's doing. I felt like some of these other guys in the back nine, they got flustered and impatient, right? And it was like, yeah, because they're behind, but I felt, I felt a little bit of that all week with some of these guys. And so it's just, for me, it was just a different, a different look like part of, I think part of the test was, can you be patient? And then when 13 comes around, can you hit the shot? And in Rory's case, I'm like, man, that was a horrible swing. Like, you know, you can't do that. Are we doing course set up? Are we doing down the leaderboard? No, we're going to keep going down the leaderboard. We're going to keep going down the leaderboard. Alex Smalley playing in the final group plays his first, parses his first five holes, makes a very, very bad double on six. Which like that should have been a quad. Yeah. He didn't hit a single fucking good shot. Any of the six shots that he hit where they were all awful, that was unbelievable. It was just like Rye on 18 on Saturday. There's no downside risk. How many doubles were there today? 16 doubles for, what do we have? 60 some players. That's not acceptable. It's not great. And I don't think that's a setup problem. I think that's a venue problem. We'll get there. Anything to kind of add on Alex Smalley, how he acquitted himself, made eagle on 16, birdie the 18th to shoot even. I don't have a ton left. Honestly, man, hanging question. Like he played his first six holes on the weekend. Like each of the days he played them in five over par total. And he played the weekend in minus two. Yeah. So he played the other. Super impressive. You know, I think the, yeah, like it was impressive. I think the, the, I'm glad that, like I say this earnestly. I'm glad that the mom stuff is out in the open because I feel like I've been sitting on that or like kind of waving my hands in the air for people over the last 18 months. Everybody's like, you know, nobody's really paying attention and you talk to people. It's fucking weird, man. It's really weird. And I think it's like kind of tragic and sad. So I'm glad it's out in the open and we can, you know, see what happens here in the next six to 12 months on it. First off, TC, did you take one of the gloves off? I did because I can't, I can't. The rain glove doesn't work for my computer, you know, track pad. So I get sure I thought you started with two. I did. I want to say one of them didn't fit. I take away with one show with the two gloves. That's how sort that commitment lasted with Alex. Great golf swing. Like I don't think there's a, I don't know if we've, we've said that, but just he had said like really nice draw. Don't see a lot of guys draw on the golf ball. I seen a lot of his golf this week. I just want to, you know, recognize that it's a very, very good looking golf swing. It is. Justin Thomas, sorry to your point about guys who filled it up today and hit really nifty wedges. Justin Thomas shot 65 looked for a while. Like we're kind of joking internally a little bit on like, Oh my God, what, how stupid is anybody thinks JT still has a chance? And then the farther the day went on, it was like, Oh, JT might still have a chance. That's what we were all rooting for. Just everybody come back to minus five. Let's have a six man playoff. It was a man. I know people, people's mileage varies on JT and there's, there's plenty of people who don't like watching him. It's electric man. When he, when he gets it going and when he turns into swaggy JT and he's leaning on the T shots and he's, he's nipping wedges and he's, you know, it looks like every putt's going to, it's really fun. And it was really fun today to watch him kind of be the one that, that made a big charge. As someone who gets really poor mileage on JT, like just awful gas mileage, like Neil Arshavitao growing up, you know, 11 or 12 miles a gallon. We're getting on that thing. I love having JT in the mix. It's the best. I think JT is so necessary. Like we need those swashbuckling cocky, uh, streaky players. I loved watching him. Like today he had a great wedge, I think into 11 and just kind of spun it off this slope. And I'm like, God, like, I wish we saw more of that this week generally speaking from the golf course, but I've missed seeing that from JT as well. And he's wearing, uh, he had the, the, uh, ALD shoes on all week, the foot joint co-lab and, and he putted well. He putted lights out. Worth and putting for the week. He had a first top 10 for him in two years, I think it is at a major. Why is this a sense for the moment? Why is it this major is the only one that he has consistent success? It's not even close to 30,000. Yes, but you know, cause it's such a, it's a weird, it's always a pretty weird tournament in general. You just don't see somebody that's like a horse for a particular event. Maybe Brooks checks out in this category as well, but I can't really put my finger on it. No, it's a really good point. Yeah. It's like the put on, on, you know, when he makes that par on 18 and same with like the putty made in the rider cup this year, last year, it's like, he just has a sense for the moment. And, uh, and, and kind of a toss up like this. Like I just mad respect for him just sticking with it. Cause throughout the week it was like, he was just on the edge a lot and he just like wheeled himself into, uh, you know, he's like, well, almost like he feel like of all the people out there, I feel like JT is the one willing putts it. Like I, he just mentally like, I am not missing this. And then he celebrates it in a way that gets you hyped. It's electrics. The word Dige, it's fun to watch. I think if you're looking at JT, sorry, I think if you're looking at JT's like where it kind of went on done, the bogey on nine on Saturday, like that was like, that's like a double basically, right? And that was in a stretch of four bogeys in a row. If you just, if he just smooths that out a little bit, uh, like he didn't make a par for eight holes from three through 10. It's electric. Like it was fucking electric. I loved, uh, I love seeing, I think there's a quote from Spieth today because Jordan shot was that on third Friday. I think that the little low runner scooter pun shot that Jordan hit on, on 11, uh, which was kind of, you know, having a moment online. I think he was asked about it afterwards and said that he told Annie, his wife that like, yeah, I think JT's the only other guy that would have tried that shot, which is, I mean, that, that explains why I think I like watching those two players as much as, as much as anybody. It's got the juice, man. It's got the juice, Sally. It's no news to this crowd. The high noon transfusion certified hit. That's right. They've brought the number one golf drink into their vodka seltzer lineup. That's the transfusion. You can get it now, but it is not here for a long time. I'm surprised they even letting us still use this copy through the weekend because I'm surprised they haven't run out. Uh, thank you everyone that's been sending in pictures, the many pictures we've gotten of, of where you've been able to find it. Uh, but it is a limited supply irresistible grape taste crafted with real vodka, real juice, sparkling water, hint of ginger and lime. Uh, again, here for a short time, not a long time. Get it for it disappears. Let us know where you find it. Tag us on social. Tell your friends, blow up the group chats. High noon suns up. I'm so bummed that I think this is my last transfusion from the fridge. I'm really, I'm going to be taking my time with this one because I need to, I need to, you're right. Uh, T C. Do we need to talk about Ludwig? What do you, what do you think? Is this a W or L this week? Uh, I think a lot. I think micro L micro massive L like, um, like there could be terminal issues. We just got foreclosed on and we have to move out of our house and yeah, it's not good. Um, but Mike or but macro, I think it could be the biggest dub of all time because if this doesn't fucking convince him to, to switch to a mallet, I don't think anything ever will and quit putting with that dumbass Oreo looking putter. It's awful. I'm becoming, I'm tired of it, man. You were, you were really in knots about Ludwig to your credit, your credit. The spin zone ended, which I, which I appreciated. Oh God, it pissed me off. Man, like it was, it was not fun to watch. I mean, the three pot on 10 today. Uh, some of the short side it misses. It just, yeah, it just wasn't fun, man. Like I did not like that ride. Yeah, but then he sucks you back in with like, you know, he played 16 just makes it look so easy. Just like drive, hit the front of the green two putt for birdie. You know, it's just like, God, that's easy. That looked really, really easy. Number one and Tee to green this week. Number one, which is surprising because I saw a lot of, a lot of right balls. I felt like that's after a clanky day on Thursday too. That's how well he hit the ball and then he just, just browns out for three, four, five holes at a time. Yeah, turns into a vegetable. I wouldn't, I wouldn't wear this one too hard because again, it just like, it feels like he would have waltzed to a three shot win in a different kind of golf turn. Yeah, but that's even, that makes it even worse because people are like, Tee see, he doesn't have the bottle. Tee see, he doesn't have the minerals. They're just reading your quotes back to you. Okay. We're just asking for a concession. Yeah. I was, you know, I got sucked in by, by how easy he does make it look. I was joking earlier. Him and Rye playing in the same group. I was like, this is like a Mac and a PC just played right next to each other. One of them is just the ultra designed sleek, you know, but then like the battery goes out. You're like, how the fuck am I supposed to fix that? Right? I gotta go to the genius bar to think what are you talking about? There's Aaron Rye's just, Aaron Rye's open source man. He's like, yeah, we're just taking, you know, me and my golf guy, he's got the whole community working on this game. Yeah. And what, what lasted till the end of the week? The Lenovo big pad. Nokia. The work horse. Yeah. It's like, you know, 50 million of those things. Our dad's got this Toyota Tacoma truck and he's like, yeah, I got it. And he's like, yeah, I've spent like $280 on maintenance and parts on it in the last seven years. Like it just doesn't back. You see, it just doesn't break. It doesn't, I don't have to do anything with that. Exactly. That's good stuff, dude. Mattie Schmidt. No one likes to pile on TC more than, more than, more than me. We're not going to pile on for the lead big thing here. This is a good major championship showing it. It was a close call. It wasn't perfect golf, but like, let me, let me, I still, if there's anyone getting rid of, you know, or, you know, anyone hopping off the bandwagon with Ludwig, there's an open more spot for, for more of my family to get on. We'll take a seat. You're interested in some buybacks. That's, that's a man. He shot a great 66 on Friday. I got it. I got to keep that in mind. It just, yeah, he should have won this thing going away and he didn't, and he didn't and he can't do it right now. And it's pissing me off, Solly. Matt, do we need to talk, do we need to talk? Mattie Schmidt, a T four shot one under today in the final group. Never, you know, never been in a final, I don't know if he's never been in a final group, never had a 54 hole lead on the PGA tour. Impressive to go out and shoot under par. It's about kind of where my commentary ends. Wish him all the best. Yeah. He was a threat down the early part of the back nine. I mean, he got the six under and then, you know, then yeah, Aaron, right. Kind of just sucked all the juice out of the, out of the tourney. Yeah. I think, I think Schmidt, I think Bernhard personally taught him how to put based on what we saw this weekend too. Legally, you can't get sued for what you just said, which is great. But I think anybody knows what you're, what you're talking about, which is, which is artful to see the main G dog. Cam Smith was back. That was, that was probably definitely more, more electric than JT. That was like, I looked up and I know he bogeyed what 17, but I looked up after I think 15 and I was like, Holy shit. This guy hasn't made a bogey today. Like this is the worst I've ever seen somebody hit it. How is this guy 300 par? He was blowing it off the planet hitting into bunker. Fairways, three of 14. That's crazy. That's insane. He was three all week. He was, he just did it far. It was, you know what's crazy? He, he hit, he hit 72% of his greens today. It's, yeah. It's just, he's like, he might be the rat king. I think so. I think he is. And it's just fun to watch him. I think what I missed the most, if I'm zooming into the, the super micro, just his tempo on those little crafty pitch shots. I'm like, man, I could, I could sit and watch him at the chipping green just all day hitting those shots. I have missed those greatly. It was very, very fun to have him involved. I was, I was joking with you guys on Slack that the Mickelson thing as much at Kiowa, as much as that seemed like the most unlikely victory in the history of major championships. I'm like, guys, Kim, Kim Smith winning a major this week would not be that different. Like you, you convinced me it's even more unlikely based on his, his recent form where he's been in the major. It just seems like he's been in the wilderness. So a bit of a walk about the, yeah, truly. Not a bit of the wilderness. He's been in the wilderness and the bush. I think it was by choice, maybe at first, and I actually think he's actually been working pretty hard on his game. He wasn't getting out of it and he switched his coach and he's seeing immediate returns. Like for him to do what he did this week with hitting 41% of his fairways in like, I mean, the rough wasn't gnarly, but it wasn't like, it was, it was a penalty. Right. Like we can debate on whether it was enough of a penalty or if the wayward misses were too rewarded versus, you know, like, it was kind of like car news to a few years ago, where like the wayward miss gets not penalized at all. And the miss three yards off the fairway gets crushed. Yeah. I think there was a little bit of that out there, but I just, I forgot how much I love watching cam play golf. It's just, it's great. It looked like it was just something like three things in a row would have to go very wrong for him to make a bogey because, and he didn't putt well coming down the stretch. Like, I think it's, I gave him a unintentional Twitter jinx of just like, it just felt like every time he stood over putt, it was going in the center of the hole. And it felt like 2022 open championship for a little while there. I'm like, dude, where is this guy going to screw it up? Because he can't drive the ball yet. He makes par on every single one of these holes. And I don't, I don't know if it's enough to declare him back. I think this, this was a really good opportunity for him based on what the test was this week. And I don't know if it's going to, if the stars are going to necessarily align, but it's good to see him back in contention and playing, playing good, good golf and being a relevant person in the golf world. Totally. And you get to, you know, who knows, not that he's going to be some favorite or something, but you get to Shinnecock where it's probably going to blow and a bunch of people are going to miss greens. And you got to have a tidy short game. Like, you know, very well might not be the end of the end of him this year. And I think the other thing that I was thinking about watching him make a run is again, it's one week. Who knows. But you hear the quotes from a lot of the live guys over the last couple of weeks since the, the ship has kind of started to sink. And there's just been a lot of like, yeah, well, I guess, I guess that's it, you know, type of type of stuff. And I just, I would have bet money on Cam being one of those guys based on what we've seen over the last couple of years. Right. I mean, I think he's loved the, the, the work life balance, it seems like from what live is offered. And I wouldn't have even blamed him for being like, yeah, you know what, I'm just going to fish and hang out and play with my buddies and do whatever. And it seems like he's, he's wanted to really like get back in the fight. And, you know, they've talked about it a lot, but getting back and working with Claude Harmon and rebuild and stuff and kind of putting the machine back together. So massive, massive credit and appreciation for him, him doing that. You guys, I mean, you know, technical question here, but shorten it up at the top of the swing. It seems, I mean, that just seems like a little like across the line. Maybe, maybe we'll start there. Maybe we'll shorten it up a little bit. I gotta think that's having an impact on the accuracy. That's why it took me so long to buy in on him because he was doing, but he was playing well. He was still doing that. I was like, that just still doesn't look like. I don't know if that's good. I mean, Neil, you want to talk about maximizing your talent? Like he's a guy like when he's playing great, I think he's so much greater than the sum of his parts. He, he embodies the bottle and the metal. And I thought today I thought the minerals one or two of those putts, like those birdie putts, he was giving them a good run. They're kind of middle stretch of the round, like 12, 13. And I thought one of those was going to fall and he was like, all right, he's got that sense of blood. And when he tracked Rory down at, at the open championship and I thought that same thing was going to happen today for a little bit, for about 25 minutes. It weirdly reminded me of that round as well, except for one of those guys, one of those cam Smiths was at the peak of his powers in total control of his golf ball. You know, it was like the same, almost like the same attitude with a different skill set. And it was, it was funny to see how the, the results of those, those shots differed. I also want to give cam credit for sticking with the, like the main g dog look in the mullet. I kind of thought like how he'll kind of grow out of this. He hasn't. And I, I'm impressed by that because that's just a, it's just quite a look. And he's just like, nah, man, it's my look. It's good stuff. We were, we were talking last night, Neil, when we, when we hung up and speaking to your, your across the line comment, we were saying, I think you should just start at Instagram where you, you just give out swing, you just break down swings and you just, you don't have to even know what you're talking about, but just be super, super start drawing lines on the screen. And he could see right here. He's way over the line. This is what we call mucacho ball. You see that? You see the hips go? That's, that's what we're talking about. Look at what he's supernating here. I mean, of course this is a dead, stuck here. Okay. He's just, he's stuck. I mean, anything. Speaking of stuck, we saw Rory get mega stuck on 13. I was, I was happy to hear Trevor call that one out. He's trying to hit the mega bad boy five wood there on 13. Which I don't tell you what, because they were telling me about all these hip turns there on 13 T and all the, all the hip turn percentage stuff was, was telling me that he should have been better than the field average on that. I was just, that was such valuable information. Solly, if only we could get the, the, the swing from today. Yeah, that was tough cameras. Having Trevor clocked that Trevor clocked that swing in real time. You could see, you didn't even need to see a replay. He could have broken down exactly what just happened. And instead he had to go to like a swing from Thursday because they sold the whole T mobile. That was, that was not good. Gentle was bumping this week though. I heard there was EDM music coming out of the club. Magenta next to the fifth or sixth hole all week to the point where it sounded like live over there. Hell yeah. Golf with louder. Anything else on red? And we kind of touched on him a little bit earlier. Don't have a ton. I was expecting more from him today and some, some gas pedal stuff. And it, I don't know, just didn't quite, I was impressed. Like the whole front, not basically until, I guess until nine, he just really seemed like he was biding his time, playing patient. And yeah, he just, he just had some like colossal, some bad swings or maybe decisions. Drivers bad spots. Yeah. Guys, we all kind of whiffed on, I mean, everybody whiffed on like just summing this place up or. Prognosticating upon what this test was going to be like. But that said, like, I think Rory's pre round presser saying that, Hey, there's no strategy. Just bomb it as far as you can down there and then figure it out. Jux deposed with rise, you know, approach to it. I think it's one of those, like, I think if I had a question for, for tiger right now, like, like, I don't think we would ever see tiger hop up in a, in a, in a, you know, pre tournament presser and say something like that, which then maybe even said to carry. Hey, cool. I'm going to set this up even, even more. Tuck it even more than we. Yeah. And then, and then like, I think I would have been really hard. Yeah. Like, I think I would have been really fascinated to see how tiger attacked this course this week, like prime tiger. Right. Like, is he hitting a lot of two irons and stingers off the tee? Is he like, I don't know. I think that's just like a really interesting theoretical question. It is. And it's, it's interesting. If you've taken prime tiger and plopped him in today's era, would he approach it different with the knowledge of strokes gained and the guys just send it farther now. It was like back then. So it's kind of like, I think about this with baseball, when everyone got really smart with baseball, the game got more boring, but like, you could have a stand out Tony Gwynn style player be really valuable because everyone's kind of playing the batting average game. They don't really understand the value of home runs and all this stuff. Like now that everybody got that knowledge in the modern day. Yeah. You're, you're, you know, the value of that guy decreases because everyone got smart. It's three, three point line in basketball. Like, you know, the mid range game was a huge string for Allen Iverson, but like once three pointers, like the full math came to came to be on three pointers, everyone's racing to do that. So taking prime tiger who could do a lot of things, would he have been more of a bomber in this age is a, is, but to your point, I think like this would have been a really even for like 2018, 2019 tiger, the modern version of tiger, the best version of that we would have seen would have been really interesting. I think on this golf course, because it would have been long enough and kind of just that little peely cut and shaping balls up against the fairway to hold them and playing, you know, smart golf towards middle of fairways and putting well would have been in contention. I think on this golf course. And part of me thinks like maybe Rory just didn't have the energy to deduce this golf course after everything he threw into, you know, I think just drove it like shit though too. Right. I mean, it was very inaccurate. And I think it, I don't think, you know, maybe his words didn't come off great and of like, I don't think he was just trying to hit it as far as possible, go find it and figure it out. I think it was just like, I've got no reason not to hit driver a lot on this golf course. He just needed to be more accurate with it. Yeah. But like, I just think about like, was this and again, we got more time till we get into the setup stuff. But like, was this Carrie Higgs? Almost defense against the strokes gain stuff against modern golf. He's like, you know what, I'm going to, I'm going to write a really interesting album that is just totally going against that. And I don't, I don't like Carrie Hague. I think he's pretty joyless and a lot of his setups and his lack of explanation and things and just generally how he goes about things. But I think it's kind of an interesting concept album. If you will, I didn't like it. But do you see that kind of sums up my feelings on the concept album specifically? Like I just do it now. Yeah, yeah. Zander was the only other one in the top 10. Okay. If Zander, And we're already on 18 because yeah, it's kind of was stuck in each for the rest of the day. Dige, I'll hit you. I'll kick off this conversation with a, with an analogy. If you'll, if you'll, I need your help. The reason I'm directing this to you is I need your help. I, I think Drew may have said it in our Slack earlier from our team that this, this week, this tournament reminded them of like a movie that he's like, yeah, I'm enjoying it, but I don't know if I'm going to rewatch that one, you know, And I was trying to think of that movie. I was thinking about the one, what was the one that Jamie Lee Curtis was in? Dude, that was the first thing that came to mind for me. Everything everywhere all at once. Yeah. Yeah. Whereas like, yeah, A lot of people being like, this is great. This is what we've been waiting for. I'm like, no, this fucking sucks. This movie stinks, man. I wouldn't say it sucked, but I was like, I don't know if I'm going to rewatch it. It was interesting. Yeah. I was like, okay, I mean, it's holding my attention and I'm kind of, I'm laughing. I'm chuckling. I'm, I'm like, oh, this is, we don't see, we don't see a lot of this. Feel good story. We don't see a lot of this week week or, or year to year and during Oscar season. Feel good stories for, you know, Daniels, the directors and, and Michelle Yo and Jamie Lee Curtis and the guy from Indiana Jones. I mean, it was great. Lots of great stories. That's where I land is like, I haven't watched it again though. I haven't heard anybody talking about it. And, and yeah, like I'll, I'll kind of leave it. I'll let, I'll let the, I'll let these guys have the platform here. Cause I know just got word Aaron. I was 62 of 66 from 10, 10 feet in this week on those crazy greens. Yeah. It's great. You know, it's, you know, it's another stat T C because I have no idea if there was, if that's all four footer, you know, that's a while. That's a wide range stat. I mean, 66 putts though. Like that's, that's a lot. Yeah. You want to get his book a world record holder T C. That's his shit right there. Guy made 207 of them in a row. This is, that's his light work for him. You want to stat you're going to hate. Scottie hit more greens and Aaron Rye this week. I don't like that. What was the other one I had pulled? Scottie hit eight more greens than I'm sorry, seven more greens and then Alex Smalley as well. But on, on this, I don't, I don't want to get too far on one side of this. Like putting on sloped greens, especially putts inside five feet that are on the edge of the hole, outside the hole, a ton of break on them. That is a skill of golf. I don't want to, it's a skill that doesn't get ever asked for outside of maybe once or twice a year. So yeah, all for that. The things I've said about the setup of this course have been wildly misinterpreted to this point of the week. And I don't want that to get lost of like that. I don't think putting is a skill that should be tested. Like Scottie did not deserve to win this tournament. It was not like, I think you should get on the green and just, you know, you are expected to hold out in 1.6 shots here. That's exactly what you should get here. No, it's a skill that should be tested. And like he failed that test this week. Ludwig failed that test this week on the short putts. Ron missed a couple shorties in there that might have painted this tournament in a different way. And Bride did not. I, I, there's a lot of, a lot of moving parts to a lot of this. I think they're caught between a venue issue and a setup issue with what we ended up getting. I, again, I was, I, I tried to try to play this. I was best like good on Friday. I was like, I'm very gray on it. Like I like a run amic. I think it, I want, I want the professional game to be able to go to a place like that. I liked the Saturday Sunday version of that better than I did the Thursday Friday version. It felt like the most exciting part of the entire week was the early part of Saturday when the wind lied down a little bit. And the pins were a little bit more accessible and guys were on, on offense and could make things happen. And it just felt like a fun buzz of, I don't know what's going to happen. And it kind of felt like we got a little bit back in the blender on, on Sunday and a, I think the PGA America loves a bunch leaderboard. I think that's more of a flaw. A flaw than I think it is what I like in a lot of major championship golf, which is a really stern test of a, of a big variety of skills. We decidedly did not get that this week. I think a lot of people that watch majors and, and you know, tune in, especially two majors care a lot, a lot, a lot, a lot about what that actual score number is in the corner of the leaderboard. I've never been one of those people. I'm not afraid of birdie fest. I think there can be really good tournaments that have a ton of birdies in them. The masters usually has a lot of birdies in them. And it felt at times like it was hard for the sake of suppressing scoring and that they were afraid of scoring. And that they were afraid of it getting away, which I understand based on the feedback from the players, what we were all thinking going into this and what the data was probably telling them going into it of what happened in 2018. They got dream conditions, wind and firmness. And I think in, I think with the wind and the conditions, they could have had slightly friendlier pen positions and had a much better tournament than what they ended up getting. That's not to say it was a complete disaster. I don't believe it was. I just think they aired on the side of hard. I don't think it worked out to create the most exciting golf tournament in the best test of a variety of skills. So I think this was a big spot for them because then the last two venues have not been very good. In my opinion, the next few venues, not so good. In my opinion, it was kind of like the one highlight of like a six year period. And it just didn't quite live up to, you know, didn't really fully clear the bar for me for what I, what I like in a major championship. And I feel like we were holding out to like, all right, back nine Sunday, ton of names in there. This could get really fun. And that didn't materialize. So I'm just kind of, I'm left with an empty feeling a little bit after this major. And I think I'm not the only one. Neil, I appreciated you talking me through it the other night. That was great. That was a very fruitful, productive, productive conversation. I always hear it for you, brother. I think it's true that I don't know what I want is out of this tournament. Like I know what I want out of the US Open. I want a complete examination. I don't think like I thought this was kind of reminded me of winged foot and spots where I didn't feel like we were getting a complete examination or there were just little get out of jail free cards. But I also don't know if you can even have a complete examination at this point with the equipment and all the optimization, unless you, you're at Shinnecock and the wind is blowing 30 every day and it hasn't rained in three weeks. You know, and you're not losing the greens. Like it's, there's so many, there's a confluence of things that have to go right. I get it that some people love this. Like for me, it was more of a venue issue. I just didn't, I don't know. I just don't think like between like, right. He, he hit awful shots on 18 on Saturday. Awful. That should have been a double or worse. And it was just like, no, like it's just, just going to plod right along and whatever. Like there, I don't think there was any downside risk, but I think that's more of a venue issue, not a setup issue. I think a run aming is a delightful course to play for members and such. I don't, I don't think it's fit for purpose for a championship golf course for a variety of reasons. Like I, what, like three of the top six hardest holes this week were, were the par threes. I think which just feels to me like they just, yeah, like scoring suppression. So I'm like, I'm like you, like I'm not, you know, like, I know we joke about the proper test index and all of that. I just want to see like shots have consequence and shots have rewards. Right. And I think we just didn't see enough of that on either side this week. And the whole like progression of a tournament matters to me. I don't think it should be. I know the conditions were harder Thursday Friday, but they, they got forecasts. They know that it's going to be cold and windy and all that. Let's, let's like it should, it should develop and evolve and grow as like, like the challenge should get more interesting as the week goes along. I think, and I felt like it almost devolved. I would have been fine if they just, if they just kept going with the Thursday Friday stuff. Can I ask you though, like, I feel like if I go back to Augusta, not to not this, not supposed to be a gotcha. I'm genuinely curious. They pulled back really hard Thursday to Augusta. And then I remember, you know, you and Randy were keep, let's keep pounded baby. Let's keep, and, and they pulled back. And same thing with Shinnecock when, you know, Zach Johnson meme of like we totally lost it. I hate it. I feel like as a listener, you'd be like, well, he's the, aren't you telling them like you're saying you wish Thursday would be easier? Yeah, I wish Thursday would be like, Hey, here's what you're like a little sampling. Like I'm not against having six easy, six medium and six hard pins. What the fuck happened to that? Why are we doing these theme days? Like this is like, that's what you're a MIT. No, and I, I've matured and evolved from that. I think Carrie Higgs like turned into a little bit of like Mike Davis or Tom Meeks where it's like, like, it just doesn't know what this tournament is. I like, I think the part of the reason this tournament doesn't have an identity is because some of the venues that they choose to go to in the way that he sets up some of these golf courses. Like was, was this year a hundred times better than Valhalla and Quail Hollow? Absolutely. I'll take this 10 times out of 10 over those. I think Olympic club will be good in a couple of years. I think next year it could be a really avant garde weird concept album that most people are probably going to hate, but it could be pretty interesting. But I just felt like the whole time I'm like, why am I not enjoying this? I just couldn't figure out why am I not enjoying this? And I felt like it just felt a little bit reductive as far as the questions being asked with irons. Like the last, the last few days and Bacon had a great analogy we're texting today. And he said, it feels like a transatlantic flight in business class. You're like, man, this is, this is great. I'm upfront. I'm, I'm, you know, the food's good. You know, it's kind of comfortable, good snacks and all that, but you can't really sleep and you're just kind of like, you know what, I can't wait for this to be over. Like just get it over with. And that's kind of how I felt like the entire time in this tournament, like there were entertaining spots, but the entire time I was just like, I think I hate this. Can I ask about the downside risk thing? I feel like there's not a lot that we see week to week that has other than water hazards. Downside risk and OB and O. Okay. So, so no spots for like big, big errors out there because I did feel like shots had consequence. That's where I would push back a little bit. I did feel like hitting it in the rough was a consequence, even though you could run it up on a lot of holes. It just felt like pokeys are a consequence. And then when you can't make a lot of birdies, like those, those felt that limits the consequence of the opening up in the front limits the consequence to the point where you can get on the green and make a lot of pars. Whereas if, if there were more cutoffs and in theory, again, going hand in hand with a slightly easier pins, it's like, oh, if you're in the fairway, it's go time for birdies. Yes, you can, you can get at pins and do that when you cannot afford to do that out of the rough if there's not run ups. So again, there's run ups on this golf course. So they got a design around that their reaction to that was to make the pins really hard. Then it's like, whether you're in the fairway or in the rough, it's still going to be really hard to get close and make birdies and you're going to end up making a lot of pars and you're going to end up with a bunch of birdies. So let me ask it like, they got what they set it up for. No, let me ask you a naive question like a, like a, maybe a correlation or causation. He said, like Aaron ride, like led the field and driving accuracy, like where all these guys plan like idiots, like you said earlier, like there's Rory didn't hit the driver well. And, but there was no reason for him not to hit the driver. Well, was, is that wrong? Like, should he, should they have been prioritized? It seems like being in the fairway allowed this guy to win by three. He was fourth in driving accuracy, which contributed to him being middle of the pack, slightly gaining on the field overall off the tee, like between distance and accuracy. He hit from the spots he was hitting. He was doing, he played very good approach shots. So like, yeah. Okay. So take this, this part of the equation. I'll be extreme for this, for this matter. Let's say no matter what you do, if you hit the green, it's going to go to 30 feet, whether it's from a hundred yards or from 170 yards. And I'm being extreme with this, but let's say Rory and Rye are going to probably hit it to the same parts of the green. Their path of getting there, if Rye is from 170, he's going to get a lot more points and strokes getting approached for that, of course, right? Got it. And on a setup that wouldn't force balls to the same general area, in theory, like Rory would just gain on Rye by hitting it closer from the up close distance. Do you see what I mean? You're like, you can gain a lot on the field from farther back with this kind of setup, just by hitting the green from 234 yards like he did on 15. Like he played, he hit the, like, there's no, it's not fluky what he did. Like he, But I also feel like there's like a mental component to that. Like guys playing out of the rough, it just seems like it wears on the patients and I don't know if there's a strokes gain stat for patients and like frustration. I would also throw in like thick, rough, big wind and firm greens as well. It's like you heard a lot of guys talk about like, if you're not in the fairway, you can't control your spin and you're trying to hit into all these, you're trying to take a slope or you're trying to, you know, stop a wedge downwind. Like, yeah, man, you do have to be in the fairway. Cause I feel like watching, I think it, there's a much bigger advantage being in the fairway than top six guys. Nobody else but Ryb was top 25 in driving accuracy. Okay. As a viewer though, I did find myself, I guess, just talking about your enjoyment, TC versus mine. I felt like the ball was moving on the ground with the, with the can't of these fairways and I was like, ooh, is that going to roll into the rough? Like the rough, whether or not the stats prove it out for me, for my eye test, I was like, the roughest having an impact. I'm like, oh, if that gets in the rough, that's, that's, that means he's, that changes his whole mindset on this whole. It goes from like, Hey, maybe this is an opportunity. Now where you guys, I did write a note down where, where I was a little bit like, okay, I kind of see what these guys are talking about. Number 10, John Rom, absolutely dispatches one down the fairway. You don't have to hate this. He's got 130 yards in gap wedge and it's not often that you see him, he hit it to like 25, he hit the aim like 30 feet to the center of that green. That pin was an absolute no go. And that's like, okay, now I can understand why this is like, it's, it's making it hard for anybody. Like it's not rewarding the skill of that drive. Rom is, you know, not dumb enough to, to try to flag that one. So I'm like, okay, that's tough, but I'm also like, man, we never, it is kind of for me, it's kind of, kind of made me laugh of like, man, how often do you see John Rom try to hit the ball 30 feet left when he's got a gap wedge in his hand? You know what I mean? So maybe I'm just celebrating that this was different. I think you're super close to this, Neil. And I think like, I kind of have the same feeling of you when watching a ball, is it going to stay in the fairway or not? Because your birdie opportunity was going to come from the fairway. But again, you can get mad at data all you want. I'm not talking to you specifically, but people in general can roll their eyes at this of like, they, they're going to, there's, they're going to record every shot here from the fairway and everyone from the rough. And you can come up with an estimate of what the penalty is for being in the rough. And the penalty for being in the rough, the last that I looked at it was much less than a normal PGA tour event. Even if the roughs thick and it's hard to get close to the hole, what you just said is what makes the penalty of that rough go down to like, whether you're not going to get it, you're going to get it. And you're going to go down to like, whether or not you're in the fairway or in the rough, you can kind of hit to the middle of the green and we're both going to kind of play from there and figure it out. And I'm getting more producer that Ron pulled the shit out of that one on 10. So he did, but you couldn't miss right. He missed right at that pin on 10. From the fairway and he like also was like not going to make that mistake again. So a couple of things I think, I think Ryze, Ryze wedge play is kind of the, the antidote to some of the strokes game stuff of like, yeah, he also like hit it better with his wedge. Hit it better with his wedges than some of the other guys that were driving it farther than him when he had wedges in his hand. So at your point, like you look at the top, you know, like honestly, shout out to the PGA championship website. It's like very easy to stack and sort like it's been, it's been a good website all week. There's, it's, there seems to be a much stronger correlation between the top five, top 10 finish here this week and putting than anything else. Like it's, it's, I mean, it's, it's crazy looking at this. Like just go to the website and sort it and stack it that way. And like, I'm not trying, like, I don't know if I'm right about this. You know, you say often like, we're not experts at golf or X, we're experts about telling people how we feel about golf or experts in our opinions. I'm just giving my opinion that like it for whatever reason, I can't figure out why, but like that wasn't for me this week. And in like, it was a grand stage. The crowds were out there. The Philly fans like high golf IQ, like all the ingredients were there. And so for me, it's a little bit of that meme of like, I don't know what any of this shit is. And I'm so confused. I'm so scared. Right. I'm like, I don't know why I didn't enjoy it. I just fucking didn't guys. Can I, can I, I'm scared. Let me float one thing because I think this ties into what is the PGA championship? What is the identity? Because I think if this exact tournament had the white team markers and the red pin flags and the USGA flags flying on the grandstands, I honestly feel like it would be a little different if you came into it knowing like this is the US open, we're going to suppress this. We're going to protect par. I think people are almost more pre-approved to be like, oh, this is, this is what this is about. Is what they do. And I get it. And, and solid you might, you might feel similarly about everything you're saying, but I just even mean like on the macro level, I feel like you're mentally in a different place. Whereas at the PGA championship, I don't think you really know what to expect. And I think when they go to Frisco next year, it's going to be totally different when they go to Olympic. It's going to be totally different when they went to Valhalla. It's totally different when they go to whistling streets. It's totally different. And I, you can, that's up to you. You can see that as a feature or a bug that like we're just going to, we're going to follow our nose and the tournament's going to be whatever it's going to be. But I think as a fan that makes it very hard, it makes it hard to know what you're, what you're in for. Because when I go to the masters and it rains or it doesn't blow or whatever, I'm like, yeah, Amen. Corner is Amen. Corner. What's he going to do on 15? Where's the pin on 16? When I go to the open, I'm like, ah, well, the wind didn't blow, but hey, that's links golf, you know, tip your cap to call more cow or whoever. With this event, it's like, it's just hard to know what you're going to get. And so I don't know. I have to carry a egg cause he was in a bad mood this morning. So I don't know what, I don't know what my question is, I guess, other than, I don't know how you change that when you're going to so many different venues, when you're going to a lot of these venues that are just wildly different from each other. I think the US open identity is taken. And I think when you try to do a bootleg US open, I think it people not as good venue people bump on that a little bit. I kind of weirdly am leaning back towards like maybe the PGA championship should take some of that. TC cover your ears if you want, but you know what seems to work is Belle Reeve and Beth page and some of the for it man. Like some of the, I don't know. Closer to the players in the US open, I think like the players is not afraid of low scores. It's par 72. It's got birdies. It's got you're getting like a diet. This setup is like a diet US open with all the challenge kind of being around the greens, whereas like US open challenges are carnage and fun from like tea to green. Like you can miss and comically got spots off the tee. You can make massive numbers. You never know what's going to happen at the good US opens and it I, I, I feel like I set up is going to be a birdie fest. I think I said 20 under might get threatened going to this week. Listen guys, that was off. I was wrong about that. I think I would have preferred that over. I think that may have come off like that's a super like derogatory thing to say about this course and this tournament and this setup. Like that's not necessarily the case. Look, there's bad versions of birdie fest where it's like you can't make bogies at all, but it just, it didn't feel like they got the mix right. If like they got dream conditions and it could have still been a really interesting. I don't know. I got him so back and forth on this of whether or not I think of Ronamix like a good is major worthy venue. My heart says yes, but like my brain is telling me like, dude, all everything looking at you the face is saying it's too short. My body's telling me. Yeah. You know, I would have. I did. Yeah. Little bit. With there with both you and DJ a little bit is I'm comparing this more to the PGA tour that we see week to week. And what I was just what I was trying to say to you on Friday, TC was I just I'm happy that they're airing on the we're missing on the right side of like, I would like to see a challenging. And yeah, maybe this was too challenging and in, you know, certain parts of the game. Like I'm with you on the argument you're making that it turned into a putting contest. I understand that. But I I liked seeing these guys a little frustrated and and like the agree. Throw your hands up attitude is enough. That might be good enough for me because it's like, yeah, man, I'm not seeing that a lot. You know, at the Cognizant anymore, like down at used to be at Palm Beach. Don't see it anymore. Don't see it any fucking way on the PGA tour, even at the players. And so I think I think who U.S. opens a diet and a regular. I was like a Diet Coke to I like regular and die. You see, you're open zero. So I think your point on the like, I think when you have really firm greens, like they like they were lucky enough to have this week. I don't think you need to go fucking overboard with the pins. It's like that's where Neil, like when the ball got on the ground, I don't think that's what I don't think anything good was going to happen when the ball got on the ground and started moving a lot on those greens because it wasn't going to end up in one of the high spots. Right. We're like one of the best parts of the tournament yesterday was like when when God or a fucking airmail to Levin Green, like, and I think that we would have seen more of that if guys are like trying to play creatively or use a slope or a bank over here. And I was just like, no, guys were like, no, I have to hit the shot. Like I have to hit this exact shot, you know. Yeah, you could you could I'll find community with you on maybe some not funnel pins, but where the slopes are helping you on select holes, you know, we could have we could have managed that a little bit better for some more fireworks. But overall, I just think that I'm still airing on the side of like, I'll I don't know if I'll rewatch this movie, but I will look back fondly on the fact that I did. What do you what do you think you're going to remember most from this week? I want to I want to stress test what you're saying there a little bit. Probably the discourse, honestly, like the fact that people got like so heated, people are like, oh, my, you know, this course set up. I don't think this conversation has ever been so fraught. So like that'd be some of it, Deej. I'll remember the like the I thought the court like the course is striking the tea like the T shot on eight is one that I'll think about the 11th hole is like very memorable golf hole. And to see the your point, I think it could have been set up to be really fun one day or I kind of felt like we got the same vibe there all four days and that felt like a hole that could play very differently. But I don't know if you agree if that, you know, I don't want to go with like you said theme day might be what you're looking for. It's also, you know, what you like in a golf term is massively subjective. Why the discourse this week seemed to be like attacks on people's opinions of what they like about a golf. I didn't I'm not telling anybody else how to feel about this. I'll tell you how I feel about it, but I'm not telling anybody else how to is that was a bizarre part of like, Cody, can you flash the flash the image up like this is how I felt. Beach, I'm trying to get this shit is and I'm fucking scared like about like, I don't know what to expect. I don't know what to hope for from this tournament. I just and maybe that's what Terry Clark's here to solve is, you know, what? Yeah, we do need an identity and we're going to look at how to fix this. Yeah. Hey, Dige, one thing before I know we're trying to move off of this and to help kneel out a little bit. What I think I'll remember outside of the overall discourse is that when we came in this morning, you saw JT executing the shots and I think that's where it's missing for a large group of us and his score matched that. And then you had Fitz and Noren come along and then Kitty Amma and then Rye, they executed the shots. They made the putts and I feel like ROM watching him down like it felt like every put of John Roms was just short. And they're all online and I don't know what or why that was. But I truly, I feel like Aaron Wright is the deserving winner of this championship because he executed it the best. I don't think anybody's totally agree. Disputing that. I think the I think the dissonance a little bit comes from when you see guys executing the shots. And like that's great. And then you see a bunch of dudes not executing the shots down the stretch and then also not getting carnage or variability down the stretch when people don't execute the shots. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, for sure. I think you said something another thing really smartly earlier TC when you're talking about misses like right off of the fairway, how penal that was versus cams, half of cams drives today were so far left that you're like he was getting rewarded because of it because they're deep in galleries and everything else like that. So I don't know. This course time, baby. Let's talk trees. I don't know if we need to talk trees, maybe close. Yeah, I think you're right about that. I think so. Well, seeing guys hit shots. That's sorry. What'd you say? I think we do need to talk trees, right? Maybe not trees, maybe close. Speaking of clothes, our friends that hold us in born got their spring color palette. It is out. It is in stores. It is in shops. It is online at HB golf.com.贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽贽� performance button downs. 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Got great stuff. HBGolf. Cody's got a great hoodie on. He's got the Harbor, Heather Harbor hoodie on. That is a good one. Or a Sullivan, a quarter snap on tonight. TC, do we have a Fedora 5 tonight? We don't have a Fedora 5 tonight, guys. I just didn't think the results were, I thought we had an extremely deserving champion and a, and a good leaderboard. I just didn't, I couldn't make sense of it all. And it just didn't jive with our models and, and what we look for at, at the Fedora 5, you know, foundation, if you will. So I loved this from the PGA tour. We're flashing a, if the glove, you know, gloves fit, and then a picture of Rye and listen, if the gloves fit, then like you can't quit, right? You have to like guilty of charge. He's the champion, you know, and stuff. We're living in a weird, we're living in a weird time, man. Weirdest major I can remember. I think people are like runnin' the socials that aren't old enough to remember the OJ. Yeah, just, it wasn't weird enough. Like it wasn't, yeah, nothing funny happened this week. Like there was like some majors, usually something funny happens, weird shit happens. It was, it was so weird in that it was so muted through. I don't know if there's anybody to blame for that either. It just was like, dude, like Rory kicked a fan out today. That was one of the only controversial being on the 16th. One of my fellow birds fans. Yeah. I think your fellow, your birds were, yeah, they're getting a little chippy out there. Rory's a diehard Jets fan. I think he just had enough. That's what it was. Well, TC, you got anything else for us? Yeah, I've got five things that I love from this week. All right. You're rejoicing. You're rejoicing. Yeah, I wanted to just, you know, I'm a positive creature. I'm optimistic and all of that. And I wanted to just, just bring that energy to the live show tonight. So first of all, I want to give a shout out to Ken Brown. Ken Brown was awesome all week. And I don't know how he's not more of a staple on just generally speaking on broad. Like that's exactly what early round coverage should look like. Teach me something, make me laugh a little bit, be pithy, show us the golf course a little bit, give us some previews of what we're going to see that day. It was great. So this is, uh, I don't want to step on you if you got any CBS stuff. I thought CBS was great today, considering today they were great. I thought they were the evolve yet. Like that's the other thing like Carrie Higg just, he set him up for failure. Like I don't know, like CBS, I don't know how you're supposed to cover 35 guys being in the mix. Well, what I was going to say is the, the stuff every, every time Ken Brown's involved, the stuff that I learned about the golf course comes from the segments that he does, which is where I'm like, man, how does that not, how does more of that not make it into the, the broadcast from week to week, even at, I don't know, TBC twin cities at what, like whatever. Johnson Wagner now. Well, Johnson Wagner was awesome. I would call that out as well, specifically like him walking with Rory's group. Every time it was hard. Again, this is where I'm not trying to step on CBS because they're trying to go just golf shot, golf shot, golf shot to cover all these people that are in the day. They didn't get off the bus yesterday. But every, every time, uh, they could linger on Johnson. He was great. But to your point about Ken Brown, I'm like, man, the best stuff I learned was, you know, Scotty hitting the, the shots into like the way he was shaping shots, the little thing about the pin on, on eight, the part three from Ken Brown, it was just, yeah, can't co-sign that enough. He was great. And if we can do any more of that stuff on any other broadcast, I will watch it. Somebody said, T.C. is going to, going to wake up at 3am screaming carry Hague. I, that's, that's what the spelling should be of carry Hague. H G U E. H H G U E. Yeah. The Hague. Send him to the Hague. All right. What's number two? Number two. Harry Hague doing just Billy in general. Clark and Carrie Hague. That was great. Uh, Philly in general, my people, man, just good people up there. Hi IQ golf fans. The roast pork sandwich this week. Baller loved it. Give me more of it. Can I just say that I will one, a lot of post shot shots, a lot of bad ones. I just want to call that out. I'm used to get that anywhere, but just a lot of those. So how do we, how do we feel about the Eagles chance out there? So, what I liked about it was different every hole. Like that was part of it was just, you know, haven't heard this. See, a lot of people don't know they were doing that at Scotty because he's a cowboy's fan. That's the rival. You guys see Dak, big Dak news this week. We won't get into that. Number three, the greens having slope. This wasn't Valhalla. This wasn't quail. Hello. This wasn't TPC Harding Park. These greens had slope. They had character. Was it used properly? Maybe not, but they had slope. They did. Can I deny it? 100% agree. Number four, bumper music. I thought ESPN and CBS did an awesome job all week with the bumper music. They were, I know that's hard. They got to do that ahead of time. They got to get the rights. They got to pay for, for all that music and stuff. They had some, some country bangers. They had all sorts of, oh, they had the roots and they had their, yeah, they hit us with Kenny Loggins a couple of times, which it was, that always catches my eyes. The range was unbelievable, both on ESPN and on CBS. So I thought they did, did a great job with that. Shout out to the producers, the, you know, whoever the musical director was. I believe it was Joe Carpenter from our mutual source when we were shouting that out on a text thread on ESPN. I believe it was on ESPN. Yeah, that's right. So, you know, listen, I thought, I thought sellers was a little shy about showing golf shots early on Saturday. And, you know, they, they, they got into the rhythm a little bit more, but sticking with Rory a little bit too long on some of the walks and just, you know, thought the T-Mobile camera was bad. Anyway, this is positive stuff. Lastly, number five, P, just having him back, his attitude, his quotes and the pressers, his shirts, all of it, shot making P, P rules. I feel, I'm very, very glad I stood up to you, P, SEMS last night. You guys were getting really carried away. Happened at the Masters too. And I'm just glad, glad we, glad we didn't all get, get swept up in all that. I had fun. Even, even par 70 today. He shot minus three on the weekend. It wasn't, you know, it wasn't his best golf, but he was greasy all week, man. He was for an approach play. He was sixth in T to green. His putter let him down this week, which is shocking. Can't have wrong week for that. Shinnecock's going to be, it's going to be another good fit. Another good fit for P. What are you going to do? Tommy or P? If it was down to P versus Tommy, I think that's it. I don't need to follow golf anymore after that. Like that's the mountain top, baby. How do you convince yourself that Tommy's a great fit for Shinnecock right now? I think he's a great fit for Shinnecock. I think he was serving his energy this week. We don't have to talk about that tonight. And also to be fair and convince himself of that like four years ago, which is, moved off of that when they announced it was going to Shinnecock. Honorable mention. I love the fly private jet thing on how he sheds hat. Very direct, very, very efficient. That was great. Oh, that was marvelous. That's a good list. Good list. Thank you. Neil, Neil, shout out to your, your, your homies at the PGA of America. I think they managed through a tough logistical week with, with Ingrass and Egrass. Obviously there's, there's, you know, there's food that's not free, but that is included. It is included in the, uh, It's a nice experience. The cost of attendance. And, and yeah, and honestly also shout out to ESPN for no Jason Kelsey this week. Seven in the right direction. That would have been a layup for them. I know he was on site and they said, they told him thanks, but no thanks, Jason. Thank you. Not that they guess Kelsey, I just over, over saturated. It's a lot. Sure. And, um, it, it was a challenging, challenging venue. You guys tell me, did it feel mute, a little muted out there? Like some of the drone shots I know are pretty high up. Like it just didn't feel like the crowds were that big today or this weekend. Like it felt pretty, felt buzzy on Thursday being out there, but I don't know. I mean, we didn't really have the moments. I guess 17 kind of gave us the big moment with Ryan making the putt, but just a little muted out there when it's all 30 foot puts for bar there for birdie that are missing. I'm the bad guy. And I'm the bad guy here. Maybe people were upset about Don Rain up in there. It's possible. It's possible. They didn't have as many tickets, solid. Like that's what I'm asking. Like a, a property, you know what I mean? But I think it didn't, it wasn't noticeable to me. Like it was, um, uh, it didn't feel like unattended or like, oh man, nobody cares. I didn't get that sense on TV. Uh, any other birdies and bogies just kind of empty in the notebook, things, you things you liked, things you didn't like anyone that wants to shout them out. I got a bogey, blocky, not being there on the weekend. Like Dige, we were texting about it a little bit yesterday morning of just have blocky out there on one of the par threes doing it closest to the pin with the guys. Grow in the game. I think, yeah, the pace is going to be slow with the wind is up. Have him out there hitting trick shots or something. I couldn't, couldn't agree more. He's doing a standup comedy routine on every, every T box anyway. He was doing like a legit bill Murray at devil beach for a while this week. It was, it was great. I would shout out Justin Rose. 65, 65, 69 on the weekend, another top 10 in the major while he's doing some live testing of new clubs. I mean, the guys, uh, you know, it's impressive stuff. He was on the softs this weekend. Um, this is a random one. And this is the, the PJ Torse simp in me, but a birdie for the players championship. I think that's right, man. I know that was one of my takeaways as well. And this is, uh, yeah, it comes back to identity. It comes back to a lot of things, but I'm, I'm getting, I'm inching closer and closer. I'm not, I'm not quite to where Brandl is, but I'm, I'm kind of laughing less at the fifth major, what feels biggest, biggest tournaments in golf type of conversation. Fifth major or fourth major. That's where I was going to be the end of my sentence is like, I don't think I'm not looking to add a fifth, but I'm right. I'm interested in a little competitive starvation or a little, uh, you know, a competition for, for QB four here. If, you know, I would love to see both of the, the players and the PGA kind of, uh, maybe we have an open tryout next year. What you guys, you tell me what's, what's better players or PGA Frisco, uh, gets to be a major going forward. Well, Deej, especially if in the neck, like if the PGA Torse sets up Sawgrass appropriately again, like they did this year. Yeah. And if they, if as has been widely reported, they add some more slope back into the greens and some teeth back into the golf course, like sign me the fuck up. And by the Marriott. Yeah. Yeah. And by the Sawgrass and connected to the intercostal waterway. Yeah. Uh, I got a bogey, Mav McNeely this weekend. I thought Mav was primed. It is swing, you know, just didn't quite have a swing. He was wayward off the tee, caught up with him, but, um, I was hoping at least for a top 10, like first top 10 in a major for him. Cause I think he's one of those guys that just incrementally improves every year, similar to like an Aaron Rye of like, he's got to get comfortable. He's got to get his feet under him. And then he's, and then he's going to take another step forward the next year, another step forward. And I think he was T18 at the masters. He's T18 at the PGA. I thought that was a pretty ripe opportunity for him this weekend that, you know, good experience, but need to see more. I got, I got a bogey. I put a couple of knuckles, nuggies on Nick Taylor to not have a bogey today. So just to clarify, you thought he was going to go bogey free the whole weekend? Yeah. I figured why not? He did it yesterday. Why not? Hot hand. And he did on the front nine, one under, and then he bogeyed 10, 13, 14, 15, 17, and 18. So we like, what's the mega boat is ended? That is like, well, that's over. You'd rather make a lot of bogeys than just one though. Like if you're going to, Exactly. So I thought that was funny. I just, that was like, you know, a true bogey, a lot of bogeys there. I would shout out birdie, uh, Podrick Harrington, uh, finishing in the, in the top 20. I think he was like the, the oldest player to finish in the top 20 at a PGA since Sam Snead. I believe if I'm reading this, right? Just an unbelievable force of nature. Uh, Podrick Harrington continues, continues to be made an eagle today on 16 birdie the last fall. Just, just delightful stuff. Well, we didn't talk about them just real quick, the experience. So you guys have any, any parting thoughts, Deige? No, I picked them more hopeful than ever. I loved, I will not unsee what we saw from the driver. That's, that's exciting when you, when you start talking about US opens that are probably different than what Shinnecox is going to be. But still, uh, that would be a nice skill set to have for the next couple of years. But listen, I, I picked him at the masters for very specific reasons, uh, because course knowledge matters and people who've played the masters a lot tend to rise. I did not pick him this week. I just thought you were just doing it for fun. Well, you were tying a bow on that. That's all just for the listeners sake, you know, real quick though, I think if you're into the, did you get the masters Neil? The big golfer. Yeah. Okay. Interesting. And I would run it every day. Did you call it? I call it. I call it. They did like, I hold myself in contempt. Okay. Nobody hates me more than me. I really thought you were just picking him like for entertainment sake and for fun sake. Cause you thought he was really going to win. Oh, I guess I could have picked Scotty Schaeffler. That would have been fun. Okay. That, but that is more in line with what I thought you were doing. I'm like, Oh, I'd be boring to actually try to predict the winner. Top 12 man. Get's in next. It gets real quick at all seriousness. Like, I don't think you could have watched golf this week and not thought, Holy shit. This was a big step in the right direction. Like he was third in T to green this week. Awesome off the tee. Putter looked fucking rancid. So we got to get that figured out. That's exactly why you can't feel that way. T C in the magic. Oh, but I felt so much better about his shot making and his ball striking that I felt in like three years. We're building something. Yeah. The, I don't know if we have the foundation. Putting's got to fill in. Yeah. It, it putters gonna, it's got to get hot. Oh, we've been saying that for nine years. The ball striking wasn't as good. So last five years or so, you know, he has the minerals, but maybe that's bottle and it may have ran out of metal. So fucking close. I don't know guys. Little smash and grab 65 for Matt Fitzpatrick today. I totally missed that. Yeah. How about that? Super. We do not have to do this tonight, but I just went right into the record for a bogies, just the governing bodies with the distance thing. Just, you can say what you want about Rye, you know, with the ball running, like he carried his drive 294 on 18 and he's one of the shortest guys in golf. Like that has contributed to a lot of the problems we discussed tonight. So don't have to do it, but just need to read the record. Everybody involved, not just the governing bodies, everybody. Yeah. Tor. He only hams everybody. I hope I can tell you. Yeah. That's right. Everybody gets a bogie. Sounds like a bunch of athletes out there guys. Let's get, let's put it, give a little bit of a shop credit away real quick before we transition to the next one. If we could, sure, please, uh, I'm going to give two codes away, Neil, if you allow me tonight. Of course. We appreciate everybody tuning in all week long. Of course. As solid usually says, please hit that thumbs up below, like and subscribe. Whatever you're at. How do you say and get to subscribe? I always say, we all want you to not subscribe. It's always, it's always, he thinks he should. Tito. 8886. Winner number one. Shoot me a message. Cody at null laying up.com. We're just going to do it right now. Giving away to you. Yeah. Might as well. Is it going to be Glasper 2743 email Cody? And we'll get you some shop credit. Thank you for being on the live chat and being here live. What's next? Hey, hey, I see what you guys did earlier. You bumped going down the leaderboard up in the agenda. But you only gave me like 90 seconds to actually, well, that didn't actually go down the leaderboard. Now, most of the down the leaderboard is not actually the top 10 real quick. Did we learn anything from Cam Young this weekend? He was sick. He was sick. He was sick. Yeah. So we learned that. I just learned that. Yeah. I just read about that. I don't know if I was half the tweets are lies anyways, but that he was on antibiotics or something this week. So under the weather. Okay. Yeah. What did he 25th or something 30th? 26. 26. 26. Feels like the absolute floor for him right now. Obviously. Did we learn anything about Patrick Cantley this weekend? You guys are like pretending like I thought he was going to win by 12 or something. I was just alerting you guys so your houses didn't get blown away. No, but you don't need to. The winds were like five miles. You can ignore. You can be the guy that's like, I'm not fucking, I'm not leaving. I've seen, you do have no idea the storms I've seen roll through this place. I'm like, I'm not getting out of my, I'm not evacuating. I just got a trust your meteorologist. I lost trust in you. There was no reason to alert us on. Can't like this. There was no chance. I was getting nasty comments today about being a sensationalist. Yes. Like some of the weather channel people who are just trying to keep you on the channel. I was just trying to alert. Anybody that it could be happening. And it was happening for 40 holes, 40, 42 holes, something like that. And then obviously the storm passed and you finished T35. So congratulations to him on his T35 finish. Thank you, TC. I want to just call attention to Taylor Pendrith shooting four over on the first two days and then a little smash and grab on the weekend. A little 67, 71. Corey Connors really faded. Brooks faded today. Disappointing Sunday for the first time. Disappointing Sunday from Brooks. Double on 17 late there. Expected more from from Sahith. Both the Hoygard twins made the cut. Just want to shout that out. Fine around 69 from from from our captain LD. And then like that's not nothing straight. He's like a part-time player. I mean, that's pretty badass. Step up and make a cut in the major circle back on Brooks just to say like, I think following him the next couple of weeks ahead of Shinnecox, going to be super interesting. Just like looking for a sign of life with the putter and getting to a place that he's won before. And I'm not a good finish T55. Not been great, but I'm I'm still monitoring the Brooks situation. I think there's there's just some fight left in the old boy. Do we think Brooks plays CJ Cup? In solennial because he's not getting into Memorial, right? Where's he? Where's he on the next 10 TC? Is he even eligible for the next 10? I think as you guys are looking that up, also want to give a shout out to Ben Kern. Ben Kern shooting 77 72 on the weekend, beating the great man Brian Campbell by five on the weekend. After one of the worst rounds of golf anybody's ever seen in the history of golf, Brian Campbell's Saturday 82. Also, also beat beat Michael Brennan this week too. Finish solo 80th. Brennan finished 81st through last week. Brooks is he's currently the seventh person on the A on swing five. He's got to play well at CJ Cup, which is, you know, I don't know that I'll be watching super closely, but that's an interesting storyline. What a place to remember the five. Remember the swing five. TPC Craig James knew and improved deep. Uh, what else we got? Much of anything? Um, I thought just it may be worth looking ahead a little at, um, some future sites for the PGA championship for those that aren't familiar. It's going to PGA Frisco next year, the East course, um, designed by Gil Hans. This is in Frisco, Texas. So like a little, almost it's a week later next year. It's May 20th through 23rd, just kind of getting as close to Texas summer as you possibly can, uh, for that date. Um, it's going to be interesting. I mean, it's an, uh, interesting golf course. The aesthetics are like a one out of 10, I think, just in surrounding areas and the colors and the landscape. I think it is, uh, going to be jarring for a lot of people that, that watch it and are going to just hate it from the first time they lay eyes on it. There's, uh, we've talked about this before when you go to a chambers bay, when you go to an Aaron Hills, when you go to these courses that do not have a ton of history of hosting major championships and do not have like memberships. Players are a lot less shy about their opinions on this. So I think there's a quite an opportunity for quite a lot of bitter bitching, uh, going into next year as well. I'm, I don't know what's going to happen. Uh, I've, uh, I like the golf course. I think it's a good golf course. I think it's challenging. I think, uh, it has strong elements to it. If they get some wind, if they get some firmness, there's a lot, um, it could be a nice, solid test. I think, uh, everything I just laid out though is going to probably contribute to it, not being one of the most spectacular venues we've seen for this championship. So we'll see. I'm happy we were going somewhere different. Yeah. I, I agree. I'm not going to, I'm not going to prejudge it. Certainly not a year, a year in advance. And it's, I think I find it very interesting that, you know, it is a resort course and they're pushing people through there and a lot of people go play it, but it is pretty purpose built to host major championships, right? You know, which I think is, I think puts a lot of pressure on it, you know, to see how it hosts a major championship, but it also, you know, should theoretically, there's no shortage of land out there. There's no shortage of space. They can push that thing way back. If we are not going to be having the, is this place too short conversation, uh, next year, it's just a, yeah, it's, it's interesting for a lot of reasons that are different than, you know, Shinnecock and Augusta and Sawgrass and all those places are. Interesting. It's, it's interesting because it's an unknown. It's purpose built and they had to switch, switch the finishing holes for the ladies. Are they like, there's some bad holes out there. There's some really good holes out there. I think it's a little bit uneven. And I think maybe if, if you got a free role and like, it should probably be building more championship golf courses these days, if things keep trending the way that they are. And I think overall, I think people are going to be disappointed that, Hey, this was, this was purpose built to host major championships and this is what we got a little bit. We'll see that very well may happen. I'm, I'm going to try my hardest to dig my heels on not, not pre, uh, preconditioning myself on that, but it is, I, a lot of Sawgrass talk today, but you heard Brian roll up, you heard the setup committee, you heard the players talk a lot at the players about, man, it's nice to own this place. We can do whatever the hell we want for our championship at this place. PJ America has the same luxury next year. Again, there, there's no excuses next year. If it doesn't, if it doesn't go well, is, is where you should be. This is where you decide you choose your own adventure. If you're an optimist or pessimist, right? If you're, if you're an optimist, that's the, that's the bull case is. It's gonna be interesting. Yeah. There's no, no restrictions. They should be able to do whatever they want, but, uh, we'll see. There has been a lot of changes to, I will say that since you guys have last seen it, all the fair, excuse me, all the T boxes went through, they're all level now. None of the, the long ribbons that you get some downhill, side hill things like that. I think they have, they put in a ton of trees to well place trees, but I think it's like up in the 75 or 80 trees, new T boxes, TC on nine and 18. So they don't have to flip them like they did for the KPMG. They listening to feedback and for property that they own, I think that's the best thing that you could say. And adding some trees would be good. I mean, they're going to need some shade out there for, for people that are attending this. I think that is, that was the consideration more than any strategy with the trees, right? Cody? Correct. Yeah. I think like two is a really cool hole. I think, uh, I think 10 through 13 or four, like 10 through 14 is going to be fascinating. That par, like the, the blind par five and the long par three there. 15, awesome. Really cool shit out there. Yeah. Yeah. Speaking of, speaking of trees, uh, something that I'll remember from this week, Neil, is your conversation with Gil and Gil can dumped on about all the trees at Aron, being, being, I saw Gil, I didn't do it. I mentioned this on Thursday, but I was the right side of two Ludwig and Bryson both blew it into the hospitality tents and I'm standing over there waiting for Bryson to hit. And I'm, I looked to my right and it's Gil. I was like, Oh, Gil, what's up, man? And I, and I, we were, you know, talking for a minute and I go, Hey, just, just curious. Like, have they taken a lot of trees out since, since it was here in 2018? He was like, no man, all those trees came out in 20, like 2010, like five years before I even started work on this place. He's like, now some of them are dying. You know, the ash trees are getting, getting crushed up there, Deej and the red oaks. But he was like, I'm getting flamed for this tree thing. I don't know. I had nothing to do with it. So, so I got to kick out of that. After Frisco, we're going to Olympic club, Solly. We're going back to Baltus, Raw. We're going to congressional, which will have been redone since the last time we saw it on the men's side, certainly. Uh, Kiowa, Southern Hills, I just passed the congressional be the first one under, um, the quote, rollback golf ball in 2030. True. Uh, Kiowa, Southern Hills, Beth page, back to Frisco and then Oak Hill. So there you go. There you have it. A mix of, a mix of stuff, uh, some familiar names, some new stuff. Um, pretty, pretty PGA. This will be first time back to Olympic club since they redid it. I think Olympic club is better. Um, and Baltus, Raw next year. I think when it comes an interesting test, I don't know if it's exciting, but it's an interesting test because all the side hill lies and stuff. I don't know. I'm trying to, I'm trying to be optimistic. Uh, saw anything else? Not really. No, I think, uh, yeah, what a freaking weird major, man. It, uh, I don't, I don't, the weirdest ones as we probably started covering them. I think I don't know what the second one would be of just maybe them felt like the most random possible final result and the weirdest route of getting there and weirdest viewing week. Um, I don't know. Harmon, maybe a little bit felt that way at Liverpool, but, uh, maybe just because he was way out in front. I don't know. It's just a really, really, really weird week. And I had a great time. I had a great time up there in person and, and, uh, great time walking the grounds. Didn't have the most fun I've had watching it, uh, on television Friday, Saturday and Sunday though, which as, as we said earlier, I think takes nothing away from deserving champion. Guy who hit the shots, Neil, uh, was a major champion. That's the world we're going to live in forever. It takes, it takes adjustment. You know, it's, it's, we didn't have it. Didn't have it on the board. Uh, I mean, it's very similar to spawn at Oakmont last year, like similar statistical profile, similar, just all the way around. Different tests that we thought we were going to get. Maybe a little contrived. It felt less sudden with spawn because we saw, I mean, he won prior in the year and almost won the players as well. Um, and it was like, yeah, this guy's on a, it was a surprise win. Don't get me wrong, but it was less random. I think Rai was 250 to one in a lot of places coming into this week. Like, uh, which is a reminder that sports aren't simulated. AI hasn't come for these yet. Except for the 2016 PGA, Paul's us role. Exactly. Step for that one. Of course. It is, man. It's, it's I would rule if you bet on Aaron Rai this week. My brother-in-law did. Really? Yeah. Six grand. Just, I mean, imagine how many other guys did he bet on? I haven't asked him that, but he sent me a, sent me a screenshot. I was like, oh, fuck man, that's sick. He lost 11 great in bets, but he won one on air. Right. I mean, that's his week. Ludwig and God are up. Imagine placing that bet and then just hear it all these guys in the press room. So, oh God, we're going to wail. You have no idea how about how hard we're going to hit the drivers this week. Like you said, it's why they don't, it's why they play the games, Neil. Why are they playing? It's not, it's not a simulation. We got a question from a Vic vinegar, 17. This just really, this one cuts so deep. Is Ludwig closer to Justin Herbert or Trevor Lawrence? I think this was heavily directed at you. T.C. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You take that one. Just damning. I would say he's like the epitome of Justin Herbert right now. It's true. Yeah. It just kind of lacks some feel for the game and feel for the script and just struggling to layer some things in, layering some touch passes in. Yeah. But those deep outs, lasers to the sideline. What do we think about the burrow? A burrow come for Ludwig? I like, I like, I like Herbert. No, I think Herbert's a better comp. I think, I think Herbert's a really good comp right now. Like bottles in the playoffs right now. No, I think right now I'm not saying that's what he is. Like somebody asked me at our, at our meetup in Philly. They're at the career too. Yeah. Burrow's a dude, man. Like he's, I know. Like we can't through a T4 and a major like, like, like this is a bad week for Ludwig. I don't think this was a negative. Like I just, yeah. I get it out there. You also said it might be the biggest dove in the history of his career. Yeah. You came off him earlier in the week too. You knew this was coming. I saw this coming early. I think the, somebody asked me at our meetup. I didn't tell you guys. She came off somebody that finished way behind him. Oh, I tried to tell you guys. Jaylin Hurts, like they said, like who, who's the golfer equivalent of Jaylin Hurts? And I couldn't figure that one out. I figured it out though, guys. Hold on. Let's go. Let us go. Okay. Okay. Just corny as hell. How's that? Has some big, maybe he's calling. Has some big wins. People out of his home market mostly hate him. What's the push then? Him tapping down on those spike marks at St. Andrews in 2015. I knew it. Oh, laying up on all the par fives at Augusta and winning. Can't argue with the scoreboard. There's going to be a lot of discourse this week, continuing about iron covers and gloves and everything. But like as a, you know, as a little bit of dad talk here at my kid, like face my kids's life who don't take anything like they don't cherish anything. They expect like everything given like I inspired. Like I hope my kids someday are Aaron Ryman because I get it. It's cheesy. You could dunk on a very easy, but like for how long he's been at it and to still like kind of carry that pride and tradition and thankfulness to his family, like it's pretty damn cool. Yeah. It's fantastic. I see a guy that's super, super comfortable in his own skin. And like, I think that's such a skill is not the right word, but it's such a great trait where it's like, how do you think it's lame? Like, it doesn't truly matter to me. Like I'm doing it for a reason. It's, it's yeah, I've boomeranged on the iron cover thing. I'm not going to have iron covers, but I respect those iron covers and what they stand for. Now, I also, his quote about putting baby oil on his irons when he was younger, that also puts his entire career into question. Oh, that's the one substances. That's right. So Neil, I will say that today. You know, I know the PGA of America cops a lot of shit. I think there are like we, a lot of great PGA pros out there, the 30,000 I took, I took Freddie to PGA Junior League at the club that Aaron Rye lives at. That plantation where Sally got absolutely pantsed during US Open qualifying and where the great man Peter Kutcher once, once roamed, but, and, and you know what? They rolled in and they got the dub. So the plantation didn't get all the dubs today. Hey, congratulations. No, seriously, thank you to the PGA pros out there who grind and sweat and are often betrayed by their, by their own organization. And I think hopefully that's, that's on the mend moving forward, but it was, it was a shame we didn't get to see Don out there this week. He's too focused on the membership. Improved. And his deputy, Nathan. Well, as we're, as we're on the way out here, just a little bit of housekeeping stuff on, on our side, we, we, this was very exciting. Genuinely this week, we announced the first ever recipient of our NLU Evans scholarship this past week down at Miami University, up at Miami University, across at Miami University from where I'm at. You. The you. Uh, congrats to Abby Boyer, which was very exciting. Pumped to have her, uh, flying the flag is the first NLU, uh, Evans scholar. If you're not familiar with this, we are, uh, we've been trying to raise money for about a year now. Basically we're trying to raise $500,000 to donate to the Evans scholarship. That amount of money would, would ensure that we have an NLU scholar in perpetuity. So we'd have a scholar for four years and then it would roll over into another scholar for another four years and so on and so on until the end of time, Neil. And we've, we've made such a big dent in it that they actually are like, you're, you're on your, you've, you've already, you know, nailed a half scholarship essentially. So we'll just get the ball rolling. We're going to give the first one to Abby Boyer, which we announced this week at Miami. So we got to meet Abby. We're doing a nest podcast with her, which is very exciting. Just an awesome, genuinely great feeling and, and cool impact made by the community, all of our events, the roosts. It's just, it's awesome. I can't say enough great things about this. And I also can't say enough great things about the next 10 days. We are, we're our, our friends, the titleist are matching anybody who wants to donate to this scholarship up to $15,000. So if you've kind of been on the fence, if you weren't sure about whether you wanted to donate to the scholarship or not, now would be a great time because titleist is going to match those donations, like I said, up to, up to 15 grand. So another good chance to make, make a big dent in, in the podcast or in the, in the scholarship. So pumped about that. So Abby's a yinzer. She's from Pittsburgh. So she can help settle a long held debate. Yeah. That was our first question, first question from her. Solly, what's the plan with the podcast going forward? We got an interesting couple of weeks coming up. It is. We'll have a new podcast interview out this coming Tuesday. I spoke with Julie Eleon, the famed golf course psychology guru. If you will, she did a little, little, little work on my brain, which we do live on the podcast as well as talking about some of her experiences there. We are going to be traveling here on this upcoming weekend. We leave actually on Sunday to film a new season of Torah sauce. For those that are patiently waiting for that. We're going to have kind of a stitch together episode this coming Sunday, quick reaction to the CJ company, the world of pro golf, but we intentionally did, did travel during Sunday of CJ cup. That was TC's work there. But also next week, we're going to have two parts of a Pete died deep dive that we've done Sunday, May 31st. We will not have a Sunday recap due to our travels, but we will have again a part one of a deep dive on Pete died next week on the 26th. Part two will come out on the 31st. Then we're right into the first week of June and we'll be doing a preview of the US women's open and we'll be out there straight, almost straight from our trip out for the US women's open out at Rift. So big couple of weeks coming up. That's right. Torah sauce, right. Oh, John, we're collaborating with the Southern guards. Exactly. Neil, we haven't recorded the Pete died episode yet. I just blocked your calendar for the whole day. Strap in. It's a big one. Got a big meaty hold on the calendar. Yeah. If you liked our CB McDonald, a little mini series that we did earlier in the year, it's going to be kind of similar, similar in that vein. So, uh, did just one thing I wanted to shout out for the Evan scholar thing. If, uh, for the page, if you go to no laying up.com and just navigate to the get involved, there you go. Button up at the top. You'll see the NLU times ESF link and you can donate there if you're interested. So I just wanted to give people a destination for that. You can also just Google no laying up scholarship. And that's the first, it's the first option that comes up when you do that as well. There you go. On the video front, we've also got a, another one coming up. We've got the return of our, our hitting cups series that we started with Justin Huber, uh, TC. We watched last time your, your first competitive golf tournament in, in 20 years, which was very exciting. At the FSGA this, uh, this time we're going back to the Gasparilla, uh, solid you are not playing this time. It's our beautiful boy, Ben hoteling, uh, with solid on the bag, me and Huber breaking it down. Uh, so that's going to be coming out this week, as well. So look out for that. Big week, big couple of weeks. We got a lot, a lot going on here. So that is going to do it. We are going to put the 20, 26 PGA championship in the books. Want to give a shout out to our friends, of course, at title list, high noon, Holderness and born and Yeti Cody puts in a ton of work, a round of applause from everyone in the chat. So hit the subscribe button to give a round of applause here to Cody in the, uh, in the, uh, here on YouTube page for everything he puts into the live shows, uh, during these major championship weeks there, they're a grind as well. Uh, and Matt working behind the scenes on all our social stuff and to the entire team. It's a lot of fun. Really appreciate you guys spending your major championship, uh, weekends with us, weeks with us really, uh, we'll be doing the same, here for the last two men's majors of the year. We'll be live on a bunch of Sundays as well and got a lot of, we have presidents cups, so I'm a lot more live shows here to come this year. So anything I'm missing. Well deserved champion. Uh, thank you very much for tuning in. We'll see you back here soon. Cheers.