E1071 - Traitors and Free Bert w/ Arden Myrin, RHOSLC Reunion Part 3, RHOP, and Snowstorms

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Juicy popping boba, freeze-dried dragon fruit, fresh strawberries, and pineapple and so delicious, dairy-free coat go whip, the perfect example of what it means to eat some good. You're crazy. What's going on everybody? Welcome back to another episode of the Vile Files Reality Recap Edition. I am your host Nick and I'm joined by my wife, Natalie. I just told him I felt like the bit should be over. I don't think. We've out-revealed the bit. Is it a bit or is it? I feel like it's genuine every time. Thank you. Yes, of course, and it is. Well, and it is in my head as well. Well, I'd say beautiful, sexy, gorgeous every single time, but apparently. Nick came in with all these adjectives that he had prepared. Yeah, I'm like, this is really about me learning more. You got him a thesaurus and everything. Yes. I know. Listen, we're on the road again, you know. And I have not had a light to be able to pluck the chin hairs that are coming out of my chin in several days. And when I tell you, I think I need to do the entire show like this. I was pretty impressed with myself yesterday. Let me tell you why. If I could just, if I could brag on myself a little bit yesterday, if I may, you know. Does he have the floor? I know, I know this is, I know that you guys aren't used to this type of Nick, the humble king that I am, but I do want to brag. He has the floor. I went to Home Depot and I went and bought some flashlights and I got the flashlights that you wear on your head like a minor, which is kind of fun. We had them on Special Forces. Oh. And we, you know, had food. We have obviously, we're stocked up on food and I made in the dark because thank God we do have gas stove and we have a gas fireplace. And I made the most delicious sesame seed chicken with broccoli and onions in the dark. Wow. Isn't that crazy? That is crazy with a headlamp on. With a headlamp on. That is impressive. I can't even cook in the light. It was some gourmet shit. And it was the second time I ever made it. The first time I tried it was last week. It was like, hmm, I made some adjustments. I will never order Chinese food again. Really? Is that crazy? Unless I'm getting dim sum from Dintyphone. Wow. That's really impressive. Because I can make a really delicious sesame chicken. Wow. And here I am fucking up a shepherd's pie in the bright light. You fucked up a shepherd's pie? I don't want to talk about it. Like, did you make it or was it something you bought at the grocery store that says put it in the oven at 350 degrees for 45 minutes? Made from scratch. Oh, okay. What do you put in your shepherd's pie? Beef and carrots and onions and celery. I even went to the farmers and markets to buy the produce. Oh my gosh. Yeah, pies are hot. I don't know how to do pie. Are you putting mashed potatoes on top? Yeah, the potatoes was the big issue. How did you go in with that? Just there dried. Whatever. I'm going to eat it because it's made. Wait, so no matter what, the outcome, you just eat it? Yes. I'm using a microwave mashed potato for the top of my shepherd's pie. You've never made a dinner that didn't turn out and then put in a frozen pizza instead? Well, okay. If it's super salty or like soup, there's no going back. There's nothing to do. I won't eat it. Yeah, if it's like super burnt or like the other day, I was making a London broil and I didn't know that you can't put glass in a broiler. Oh, excuse me? I didn't know and it shattered. So that I threw out. Oh, that's tough. With the glass shards in it. I wasn't going to eat glass. Did Louie eat your shepherd's pie? Louie ate it. Oh, great. It's eatable. It's just not my favorite thing. I just didn't do a good job. That's responsible, actually. I will eat it. That's grown. There's a threshold, right? Like if it's unedible, inedible, not edible, yes. But if it just tastes off, you're still taking it down. Well, to find off. Like if it tastes spoiled, I'll throw it out. She worked hard on it. But if it's just like, this isn't great, I'll unfortunately eat it because it's just like, I don't want to waste it. The fact that Louie ate it is like a huge compliment, I feel like, because River will be the first to be like, no. Natalie, Louie drinks his bathwater. So does River. So I don't know if he's the best judge of good food. So does River. She's recently, wait, we've been drawing, obviously, we've been very, very bored. So she's got one of those like, boards that you can draw on and then you like move the thing to your races, you know? Love those. So we've been like, what should we draw? A cow, you know, whatever. And she's now to the point where you'll be like, look how cute the cow is. And she's like, not a cow. Like this doesn't look like a cow. And she's like, no. Uh-oh. Wow. You're like, oh boy. Okay. Step it up, guys. Perfect. She's got some of her dad in her. You know what I'm saying? She's got some of that brutal honesty. Yeah, she's got that. What the fuck is that? A little critical, perhaps. Wait, Nick, Natalie, I have a question. So in the snow, like, or when there's a snowstorm, what are the products that people are pulling from the shelves? Like, what's empty? It's always interesting because I feel like bread, milk and eggs go first. Yeah. But that's like the first thing I feel like. Meat. I went to one grocery store on Wednesday and like they had no chicken, no ground beef, no meat period. And my Wisconsin and me got a little cocky. We could weather the storm. Yeah. Well, it was, I just. Come on. I've been in snow before. This is nothing. If they would have told me we were going to be without power for several days, I'm definitely annoyed with myself. I hate to be a, I told you so bitch. I hate it. You know, I really do. But like, I was telling Nick, like, you know, a lot of people are getting generators and stuff. I think they're worried. Like it could get bad. And Nick was like, we don't need that. We're fine. You don't have a generator or anything? Nick. I did text Nick last night and I said, do you have a generator? And he said no. And I was like, no, but also coming to find out generator, unless it's like one of those that's built into the house or like really connected to the house. So that when your power goes off, it switches on automatically. It's only like. You turn on appliances. Yeah, it's not connected. You have to be connected to the things that you have turned it on. I thought, yeah, I thought I was like, you need to go and find a generator. You need to drive all over this country. Oh my God. And I'm like, can I, do I have to find us an electrician too? Because I don't know how to do that. I just know how to cook great sesame chicken in the dark. When, when I was little, there was this one year in Florida where like four hurricanes hit in a row at once. And we didn't have a generator at the beginning, but it's like the way we would do it is once we finally got one, you just get a real big extension cord and you plug the fridge in first. And then you kind of just got to figure it out. We would have like two lamps in the fridge plugged in and like an AC unit. Two lamps in a fridge. I mean, I feel like luckily, I mean, not luckily, but with it being cold outside, like we could take everything out of the fridge and just put it outside, you know? True, yeah. And I guess with the meat, people can freeze the meat because it's so cold. Yeah. And if you have like grills with, you know, propane tank, you know, like you can still grill. Yeah. But it's, you know, it's fun and you can like for one day, you're like, oh, camp out by the fireplace. And I was like, wow, I really would love a puzzle. I would. Yeah. You know, there's not much to do. Yeah, we didn't even game up appropriately. We didn't have any games. Oh, that's tough. Yeah. I'm from the East Coast and we had hurricanes and I remember my dad pulled a nick and was like, I'm from Miami. Like we got this. We're built different. We're built different. And then during the hurricane, Hurricane Isabel, we had waves crashing into our back door at my parents' house. Oh my God. Yeah. My dad pulled out rope, a chainsaw and life jackets and pulled down the attic door and my mom was like, what are you doing? And he just looked at her and was like, I might have made a mistake. My mom was like, Tom, I swear to God, like I will not. This is not okay. And my parents always say that's like the toughest year of their marriage because we were like out of power for like weeks. Yeah. And we were like, grilling out outside with all of our neighbors. Like as kids, we were like, this is lit. I remember, oh, it's so funny as kids. You like don't obviously, you know, you don't think of it as the same. Like I remember a tornado was coming through Alabama, like when I was a kid and we all like got into the basement like storage room or whatever, like surrounded by the Christmas tree and like Halloween decor. And we just had like one flashlight and a bunch of blankets and we're all doing the like shadow puppets on the wall. And it was like one of these very vivid memories that I have. And I'm sure my mom was like, panicked. Can you imagine like, I think back to how my parents must have felt in that moment. And I'm like, as a parent, you're responsible. Like I, if I make a bad decision, it affects me. That's on me. But like if I'm doing this with a child, ooh. Yeah. Yeah. When we, when we got hit, it was like, it was like hurricane. Charlie and like 2004 or something. But my dad went to Publix and my mom got so mad at him because we were supposed to be prepping stuff and he came back with like a bunch of pop tarts and bananas. And that's it. That's such a dad thing. And I do think, and then like we made like a home video because we were watching so much like of the like weather channel where we all pretended to be news anchors. Oh, that's cute. Yeah. Literally we went outside with like a giant piece of plywood and put an eye of a hurricane on it and like screamed for Hurricane Charlie to come hit us, which is really stupid. Right. We did the same. Yeah. But it's like, you just like have fun during those times. It's weird, even though it's so like devastating. It's like, your family are quietly freaking out. Yeah. While your parents are like the video that we made started off as an insurance video for. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. And then we, and then it transitioned to like us goofing off. Yeah. We're certainly not the only ones in this country who's been affected by this no storm. I mean, so many people in so many states and cities have been as well. So certainly our hearts go out to everyone affected. Stay warm, stay safe. Find a local shelter. Listen to the proper authorities on what you should do best. Reach out to family and friends. Ask for help if you need it. And yeah, stay safe, stay warm. You know, also don't forget vile files plus is now ad free plus in addition to some ad free episodes for all vile files episodes, you get your update specials with some great updates from some of your favorite ass knit collars, our reality recap deep dyes where we dive even deeper into the shows that we watch and cover. So we really get into the weeds with shows like the real housewives of Salt Lake City or Karen Huger's release from prison, all of that and so much more plus pop extra or pop culture roundup plus some great new content coming your way soon. So be sure to subscribe just go to vilefiles.com to sign up for vile files plus you'll be glad that you did. Also, we have an amazing episode lined up for you today. The hilarious and wonderful Arden Marine returns to the vile files to talk about our new show free Bert where she plays the comedian Bert Kreischer. You guys all know him. You love him. She plays his wife, not like his real wife. I mean, Bert has a real wife. Leanne. Yes. Leanne, wife, met lovely lady. And Arden plays her. So interesting. She's also a huge trader fan, just a general fan of reality TV. She I think she has her own bachelor recap podcast. So she is well versed in all things reality TV and she joins us later this episode. Have you guys been following the Sydney sweetie? She's now she's a she's a criminal. Yeah, actually, this article allegedly the independent written by friend of show Carson holiday. Wow. Could Sydney sweetie face charges for decorating iconic Hollywood sign with bras. Ooh, I'm guessing a big old fat misdemeanor. Well, did she actually get charged because my first thought of this and I haven't looked into this and my first thought is like there's no way she would be dumb enough to like do something that she doesn't actually have approval of. So then in my head, it's just a PR stunt with like apartment. No, it's 100% a PR stunt. The first headline was she may face charges like into your point, Justin, it doesn't sound like she reached out to the proper authorities to ask for permission to decorate the Hollywood sign with her new lingerie and bras. But I guarantee you she spoke with her lawyers and her team and they're like, listen, here's what's going to happen. I've been done before. I'm pretty sure there is a standard like, you know, fine couple hundred bucks. I think it's a thousand. A thousand. A worse arrest. I don't know. I feel like it's just. A thousand dollars for this type of press. Come on. I feel like this is going to make people be like, oh, so it's easy to get up to the Hollywood sign. I guess we should all do it. And if you have a thousand dollars to blow and you want to maybe spend a night, you know, if, if, listen, if you're Sydney Sweeney and you can afford, you know, even if it's $5,000, maybe some lawyer fees. I mean, I will be honest. I this does not make me like be like, oh, I need a new bra. No, no, like we're talking about Sydney Sweeney trespassing the Hollywood sign, but no one's really talking about the lingerie. Hey, listen, two days ago, I and myself and many of you had no idea she was working on this lingerie. And now we all do. No, no, no, I still didn't know. I thought it was her personal bras that she was throwing up. Yes, me too, by the way, Natalie also likes. Okay. So now I know she has a lingerie line. Great. But I'm not going to go buy it. I'm going to just talk about this. Here's my thing. Maybe I'm just not in the Sydney Sweeney algo. I like only heard about this when you brought it up. So I don't think it's as big of a story as maybe she was hoping it was going to be. I think it might. I think it's a pretty big story. It might have been a little bit of a flop on her. And I'm so sorry to say. I think you're wishing. I think for a thousand dollars and you got the independent and you got every major tabloid writing about it. I'm not doing that. I say go to go home and she needs a mug shot. She really wants this to take off. So true. That's true. Commit an actual crime. She's got to do a bigger crime. Like she kind of went a little low if you're asking me. Wait, what's a bigger crime? Climbing the Hollywood sign or dating scooter run? She's still dating. She's got to be dating scooter. Anyway. Right. She 100% needs a mug shot. She needs to like be in her mug shot with like in her bra in her bra like boobs looking good. By the way, even if they just did that for PR, like even if it's a fake mug shot of her standing there in a bra, no, literally now I'm behind the laundry. If it's a fake mug shot, that's lame. Commit. Yeah. It's like everyone who's had a mug shot that looks slay. I feel like has gone viral. Yeah. And like people got modeling jobs from them. That's so real. You're totally right. She needed a mug shot. Has anybody here trespassed? Yes. For sure. Nick has been an angel his whole life. He's never even thought about it. Really? Never once. One time when I was a senior, you know, I was a junior and it was like, there was a week where we called it the junior versus senior war where we like toilet paper at each other's houses. Oh my God. There was a quote unquote ski hill. The side of the hill we'd go sledding there and the ski hill was the steeper part of the hill where you could see from our high school. And me and this other guy named Adam went up there and tried to spray paint 99. And I was terrified. Like honestly, I was like, I shouldn't have done that. I'm going to get in so much trouble. Did you go home and like tell your parents like, mom, dad, I did something. No. You didn't you kept it to yourself? Yeah. Did it eat at you? It did eat at me. The good news is the next morning I showed up and you could like barely see it. You had to squint. Wait, did you go? Did you talk to the? Did you do a confessional? Oh, the priest. This is like Meredith Marks finally saying that she broke a plate. Like you're finally getting this off your chest right now. Poor Adam is like catching the stray. He was like, I haven't told anybody this. My deepest darkest secret. I know a lot of Adams in my high school. Adam gets in trouble with his parents now. Yeah. More has coming out with the Justin and Blake case and more depositions are being leaked. And this one, I think is something I've been waiting for this one because this was part of the original, I don't know, in the New York Times piece that kind of came out with like, here's what's really happening from, I guess, Blake's point of view. And it talked about some of the allegations that Blake had against Justin, one of which included a conversation that Justin had in a car with Blake's driver. And now he has finally been deposed. Now we are now seeing, you know, what he had to say. And this is one of the many alleged witnesses who experienced some of the same accusations that Blake made against Justin or witnessed some of these things that Blake put out. The statement reads Blake Lively's driver, Kevin Alexander recounted an alleged disturbing conversation he had with Justin Baldoni while it ends with us was in production. Baldoni was discussing his sexual relations with women, Alexander alleged in a deposition, noting that he can't forget the conversation because it took my focus off driving. Alexander claimed that Baldoni said he was forced on and he forced himself on women. The driver confirmed that this car ride in which Blake Lively and one other person was present was the first time he had met Baldoni. To me, it was very out of the ordinary to meet somebody and to talk like that in a vehicle. That's why it caught my attention Alexander continued. Basically he kept talking about his sexual relations. I'm repeating myself, I believe, but he would force himself on women. If they said no, this, that, he would revert back. Like, huh? That's disturbing. This is again, reminder, this was regardless of how Blake Lively, how famous she is, doesn't matter who her husband is, doesn't matter how much money she has. Justin Baldoni was her director, her executive producer. He was her boss. He ran the company that produced this movie. He hired her. So like, and then he's getting in a car. The guy who again has written books about like how to be pro women and gives Ted talks about like positive masculinity and how that he's an ally of women and then he gets in a car and talks about like how he's forced himself on women allegedly. He continued Alexander claimed that Baldoni talked about more stuff during the car ride, but he did not pay attention. Then he said in quotes, it is those key points when someone says, you know, forcing myself on women, women forced on me. I didn't care. And he continued, it is disturbing to me. You can't forget something like that. Yikes. Damn. Why would that come up? Like that's like such an uncomfortable topic. Well, as someone who has read his book and has watched some of his Ted talks in preparation for the interview I did with him a while back, his whole like shtick was like being this kind of reformed fuckboy. And, and I think in that vein, I think he got a little too comfortable. And this is me guessing this is my interpretation. So who knows. But like this whole like, I used to be bad. Now I'm good. You know, it's like, I've been saved almost now that I'm an ally for women. I can speak freely about some of the things that didn't the past. Gotcha. That, you know, we're wrong. That were bad. But because I'm not like that anymore, you know, I just want to get it off my chest, so to speak. And if you've listened to the show and you think that, you know, if you've been team Justin and you think we just have this bias point of view, just like why? Because Blake has money. Like if you have fame and power and money, does that, does that mean that you don't have the right to feel safe around men or in general? Like in what world would that be okay for someone to speak like that around you and not feel uncomfortable? And then when again, you ask them to stop their response is to hire Melissa Nathan, this PR company that has a track record of like PR smear campaigns. Like those dots have been connected and it's not even disputable. The only thing people are disputing our intentions and timelines, which is just like crazy to me. But anyway, more and more of this information comes out. There are more witnesses coming forward. There's one more little bit of the quote. Alexander recalled sharing his thoughts about Baldoni with lively after the car ride when we got to the production office, which was down the road from that area. I pulled over and let everybody out the deposition read. I stated to Blake, I feel very uncomfortable. Something is not right here. I would like to do a background check on him or something and later to learn that he was the producer in production of this movie. So he was weirded the fuck out and was like, who's this freak? And then he was like, oh shit. Anyway, but anyways, yeah, if just. Listen, if I don't know what's inside your heart that is stopping you from wanting to believe this woman who's come forward. And I don't know if it's because you like Justin's eyes or what? Or you think he has nice hair, but just like like you think it's some big conspiracy, you know, it's like. So yeah, I'm sure more and more information will come out and just maybe consider the possibility that he is not the sweet, gentle guy that he claims. To be and there is so much dirt on this guy from if you just look if you just pay attention. His ex co-host, you know, Liz Plank has spoken up about the dark side of Justin Baldoni. Like are all these people in cahoots? Like are they all just lying or is maybe Justin and his best friends, not the people they claim to be? Anywho. Well, the reunion part three was not all about love at all. Well, not really. Between some people. I mean it was about love, but maybe like the end of it. Or beginning. I was fascinated by this episode. There was a lot of meat in this bone to pick through. Like, okay, I want to start with Brawen. First of all, Mer, I thought Brawen ate your girl for lunch. Oh, ate her up spit her out. She said, sit the fuck down. Listen, listen, listen. And I can, you know, as I'm a Meredith Marx defender till the day I die, I will love that woman down until I am in the grave. But I can't acknowledge when she does get eaten up sometimes because that's what gives people multitudes and things to grow from and learn from and change from. You know, it's interesting. Meridith has obviously, you know, has a lawyer background, very polished, very professional, very, I think very smart, very intelligent. There are some fourth wall breaking with this episode where they, you know, these women, you know, reference the responsibility they have with the audience, which is, hey, we're making a TV show. And you don't get to pick and choose which topics you want to talk about and which ones you don't. Other than maybe some of the agreed upon off topic, you know, things like family and relationships, which they'd ever honor anyways. But like, I listen, I think it's a smart play by Meredith to like, you know, I think Meredith recognizes what happened on the plan was really bad. You know, we've heard a lot of things behind the scenes about the plan ride. We've had guests come in and say things that maybe didn't make the cut. I thought what Angie said was damning and she said, and if you would have had that fight with me, there would have been an air marshal waiting for us when we landed. And that echoes some of the things we have heard from other people who know this story very well that like this was at a level of like, not just, you know, hey, she was yelling at me that like it was. Yeah, but I kind of get it, you know, like with with Meredith, why her reasoning for not doing it. But you know, the problem is she isn't a TV show, right? Like, she she is not her own boss, you know, type of thing, you know, like, I think, you know, I think the audience kind of always expects things, you know, it's just like if the audience doesn't see it, they don't think it's happened, even though maybe it has maybe Meredith have had has had offline conversations with some of these people and has acknowledged her wrongdoings. And maybe these women want her to say it publicly, I don't know. But brahwin absolutely ate her for lunch. But with grace, because I still thought it was very nice for brahwin to say, I think we could be great friends and I own and I still want to be but like you not if you're going to be not if you're going to treat me like this and it is for for Meredith to kind of like use brahwin as a spy. And she made a good point. She's just like, wait, like you, like you didn't have my back when it was going on and the way Meredith, again, this the whole plane ride was centered around Brittany's mistake and it was definitely shitty of Brittany to do and it was a mistake for her to spread this rumor about her marriage. But Meredith allegedly went nuclear. And yet when Lisa does it to brahwin, Meredith's alleged friend, she doesn't say shit. She doesn't she's or a mouse. What about two seasons ago when they were coming after Angie's husband and Meredith was a part of that. So I'm curious. Okay, when let's talk about brahwin's separation. Yeah. It was very coded in and I really so glad that Andy asked the question. Was it the show that broke you up? Yeah. Here's my interpretation of what happened. And brahwin, I apologize. I'm making assumptions. But listen, like from what we know of brahwin, she, you know, had a very, she had a child at a very young age. She met Todd, Todd, you know, took her in, they got married. She's been very open about Todd supporting her and her family. I think this show has provided a level of independence for brahwin. She has never experienced before. In addition to the attention, the popularity, the fame, she is now earning, you know, like, you know, these housewives, depending on who they are and how long they've been, like, they can make some serious money. And then obviously with, you know, there's no perinam, there's that too. I think, I don't even think it's about the money for brahwin. I really think it's about feeling independent. And I think, yeah, I think she has like love for Todd, because she, she like, what did make sense to me, she was like, she would, she kind of low key reference, like, things that Todd did, which I almost took as, oh, maybe there is fire where the smoke about the allegations of him, like, looking at like bikini pictures or making out with a girl while farting or something. Like that. And then later, not in like almost like two minutes later, brahwin was like, Todd is really confused about why this is happening, which was, okay, so like, no, he didn't, there's no smoking gun from like Todd's actions. If, if brahwin is empathetically saying Todd just, he doesn't seem to understand. And honestly, my heart broke when she was talking about how Todd went back and watched all the episodes and read comments and went online and read the internet. And just read all the filth about what people are saying about him. And while he, I'm sure he's not a perfect guy, like no one deserves that. And for a guy who didn't sign up for this show, who I assume at least wanted to support his wife, is like, it breaks my heart that he had to experience something like that. But listen, like, you know, I guess I think it's, I think it was so like honest of her to say, like watching this back was really hard. Like I think watching, I think maybe she's always had these underlying feelings of like, wow, like, he just like, he won't look at me or what he just is like, not having this conversation with me. And then, but to like watch it back as a viewer, it must have been so eyeopening to her. And then having him being like, should I, you know, should I not have taken your cherry? It's like, he still just doesn't see it. And that must have been so frustrating to the point where I understand her being like, I just like can't. Okay. I'm genuine question for the ladies, because maybe this is just me being a guy. Like, I heard that story and it felt. I didn't get it. The cherry one. Yeah, I was like, sure, maybe Todd has some things to work on. You know, maybe he, you know, maybe it's like, it sounded like something they could unpack in a couple, couple therapy sessions where it's just like, Hey, I wish my husband would like pay a little bit more attention to me when I make some requests. But like, this being like some sort of smoking gun is to like a separation. I don't, I don't, I didn't quite understand. I think that's just what was on camera. Yeah. I don't feel like it's the one scene about the cherry. I feel like I kind of honestly, I was like, if he's going to eat the cherry on camera like that, I'm like, what else is he just doing? It's to me, that felt like somebody actively communicating. Hey, like, I like this or I want this. And then your partner being like, I literally just heard you say that you like something and I'm going to take it right in front of your face. And like, yeah. And I know some of the girls were like, well, I thought it was kind of cute or endearing. I'm like, I really didn't think it was cute or endearing. And if she's communicated other things in that relationship, not just the cherry on top of this Sunday, it's like things in your actual relationship. And he's just blatantly not stepping up. It's like a bigger picture. Yeah. And I think it's also kind of just the metaphor of it all. It felt like a metaphor of, of it's quite literally the cherry on top of every single other thing that's happening in that relationship. And I think with, if it was something, I believe Bronwyn said it in the episode where if it was, if we didn't have other things going on and that happened, it would have been funny. But because of the tension that was kind of already there, it was quite literally, you know, as far as like the plot of the show goes, it's the cherry on top. They were already having a tough conversation. She already felt like he wasn't listening to her and she was in tears like eating her Sunday. And so the fact that like he's watching her be upset, he's not, you know, and then he's just going to be like, let me take the one thing that you're looking for. You told me you wanted. Maybe, maybe it's a power dynamic thing. You know, back to what I said before, like Bronwyn finding her independence, like it wouldn't surprise me to learn that like, you know, Todd, this successful business guy, kind of curmungy, like when he, you know, I think, you know, as every relationship, you got to find a balance, right? You know, it's just like, you know, now and I have talked a lot about this, right? You know, when we met, you know, where there was an age difference. We talked about it. We recognized it. It was really important for me to be like, listen, if I want to date her, she is my equal. Like, I may bring things to the table, right? And that she finds helpful and meaningful. But like, she also brings things to the table that like help me and regulate me, right? And it goes deeper than just like companionship and maybe, and I don't think in, and I don't want to speak for Todd and Bronwyn's relationship, I'm making assumptions, but I think in some relationships where there is an age gap difference, specifically where it's an older guy with money who maybe dates a younger woman, there is a sense of like, hey, I provide and you just need to be grateful. And the power dynamic is very off where he's, he's in charge, you know, he calls the shots, you know, I have the money, you know, type of thing. And maybe over the years, that was kind of their dynamic where maybe Bronwyn felt like he never really took her that seriously. He's like, oh, silly, almost like silly little girl kind of like treatment by Todd. You know, I'm gonna go off on my business trip. I want to have very important meanings. You're going to do your quote unquote silly things, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And maybe it's that energy he brought to the table for all these years. And now that she is a star, a popular housewife with her own platform and her own independence. Maybe that's, that's why she's that's where it's coming from. Like, this is really fucked up. And like, you don't, you don't treat me like you're equal. Well, sometimes that's like what it takes. I mean, like, like fine, I think being in a really toxic, rough relationship, not saying that theirs was toxic, I obviously wasn't in it behind closed doors. But speaking from my own experience, it's like when you're in that, and then you like, get a little bit of independence and you like depended on this person who has hurt you for so long, and then you finally get a little independence, you like see the light at the end of the tunnel, you see like, oh my God, I could maybe do this without them. Like maybe I can leave, maybe I don't need them. Like, wow, I really feel, you know, like this new version of myself. And sometimes it takes just like getting a little taste of that to know, like, you can, you can leave. And so maybe that's all it took for her was like, getting a little bit of like feathers and her own cap to be like, wait a minute, I don't need this man who doesn't listen to me and doesn't talk to me and takes my cherries. Like, I don't need this. I can do my own thing. And she's also watching herself back like offering to, you know, do things that she wasn't actually comfortable with, like when she sat down and like digested it and watched it back and she's like, who is that person like trying to, you know, change for this man and that's not really who I am or what I want to do. And so she's, I mean, I do think that like when she answered Andy's question that like the show didn't like cause the split, I think that it probably did like contribute to it in the sense that like she's watching their relationship back and realizing things that like she maybe like, you know, could have second guessed or like, did I read that wrong? And then she's watching it back and she's like, oh no, no, like exactly how I felt is what happened. Yeah. Well, yeah, she said it. She said it sped it up and it definitely shined spotlight on the cracks. Yeah. Yeah. But if she felt empowered by what the show has brought her, it kind of, you know, again, literally gave her more of a voice. So anyway, super sad. I mean, obviously like, I mean, if Brawen's happier, then we're happier, but you know, it's sad to see a. Should we talk about Whitney? Oh, if I'm Justin, I, what was that? He, she goes off stage. She's like, hey, Brawen just asked like, they're separated and Justin's like, yeah, no, we're, but we're okay. And she goes, he's like, we're okay. And she goes, we'll figure it out. Well, she was comparing herself to the Todd in the relationship. Yeah. I think sometimes it takes like someone else opening up about what's going on in their life for you to like realize what's going on in your life. And I think it just triggered her in a way where she like maybe put up some mirrors and she was like, oh my God, this like, you know, sometimes things finally click for you when you hear someone talking about their own story. And I think it just like she, you know, her being like, I'm always the one to fuck it up. And like I'm on this show and I'm like the one making mistakes and being this and being that and being dramatic. And like Justin is just this perfect husband. And so I think she just was listening to Bronwyn speak and was like, oh my God, I'm the fucking Todd. And it just like hit her and she's already going through a lot. I mean, she said that herself of just like, I'm in a bad place in general and like, I think it was just, you know, my favorite part of the episode. Yes. Andy Cohen goes to Lisa. Lisa, some of the fans think you're not good at being accountable. Lisa goes, no, that's not true. I did feel for Lisa though when she wouldn't let her, they wouldn't let her speak. It was so annoying. There was nothing that there's nothing that pisses me off more than when they do those split screens and they're talking at the same time. And I'm just like, just, just please just let her talk and then respond. Like they just weren't letting her speak. And like, I don't know if I agree or disagree with Lisa because I have no clue what she fucking said. Yeah, I feel I just thought it was funny how she did that. But she was valid and being like her, like getting emotional and getting vulnerable and talking about like her feelings during the yacht trip or whatever. And then for Heather to be like, well, and then also my feelings. Yeah. Like, no, please. Heather wouldn't let her talk. Heather goes like, I still want to be your friend. And basically, and I'm paraphrasing, suggested that she deserves a medal for it. Yeah. Well, I think it's like, here's the thing. We have all sat through enough reunions and enough episodes of the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City to know when Lisa Barlow is doing her thing and she's being too much. What she was doing when she was opening up was not that you could hear it in her voice that she was being vulnerable and feeling vulnerable. And they just completely railroaded her. And I'm like, let the girl feel, let her feel her feelings. She's obviously sensitive and she's trying to open up and you're just not letting her. Same thing with Meredith. You're pushing her. Yeah, you're pushing her back into that place where she is that person you don't like because you're putting her walls up. Also, I'm pretty sure if you're going to have a rule about like not talking about family or like relationships or husbands, whether you agree or disagree with Lisa about what happened with that scene with John, you don't get to have an opinion about it. When Lisa is talking about how hurtful that was for her to experience to rest the women chiming in and like giving their like opinion about Lisa's relationship with her husband seems like in the lane of like you don't get to talk about my relationship. Like whether I'm right or wrong, shut the fuck up. You don't get to like have an opinion about my relationship. But there was something that like felt very real about it. Obviously, like we've never really seen the two of them kind of bicker like that. And so it did feel like, oh, wow, this is like, this is so real and authentic and genuine. And then for her to be like, you know, I would never embarrass him like that. I would go to the grave before I did that. And he and it's like, it feels like, oh, you didn't want, you didn't want like. The realness of your relationship to be shown on TV. Like you just want to show us like picture perfect. Lisa and John were great. We're besties. We're business partners. Like nothing ever goes wrong. We always listen to each other. And it's like, that's not the case for anyone. So like for them to be able to pull the curtain down and like show that no, they do have arguments just like the rest of us. But for Lisa to have such a visceral reaction of like, I couldn't believe he did that. It's like, why? It's showing us that you're human. I see. I'm I'm team Lisa on this. I just like, listen, we talk about this all the time too. Like it's it's one thing for these housewives to say, Hey, if I want to do this, I have to be real authentic. I got to show things I don't want to do. But like, again, these women and across franchises have some of these like untouchable rules, children relationship, things like that. There's a reason. And like forgetting about reality TV in general, like the number one way to destroy a connection between a relationship is to feel like you violated their trust or embarrassed them deliberately and didn't consider their feelings. So no, like TV aside, I respect that Lisa has this kind of like, yo, we don't do that shit. I might do a lot. I might I might have fake accounts. I might do all the but we don't do that to each other. And John did a fucking scene for the cameras to like call out his wife. And, you know, yeah, he was quote unquote being real. But like. We have an understanding that if we did a show like, yeah, but it also wasn't like that big of a fight. It wasn't like he was like, oh my God, you like, no, but he's a terrible mother. He like talked about her accountability and I think he but if if we sat down and did a scene and we're given how we kind of talk about how we approach things and have each other's back. If one of us did that, the other person would have been like would have been would be caught off guard and felt very violated and pissed. And like Lisa knows that like you're giving them exactly what they want. They're going to use this. They're not going to cut it. And if John chose to say those things to his wife on camera without like giving her the heads up, I think Lisa has every right to feel the way she does. I could never do reality TV. Did you understand the whole like Meredith's blaming production and then Mary crying? No, no, no. The whole cast was very upset about it for sure seems like something else had been going on behind the scenes with Meredith and production. And I think that was the biggest thing where I was like, I wonder if something happened. Like if someone is another thing that they like didn't tell us like Andy's like what happened and marriage like it's just two. I'm just not even going to get it. Well, Carlos King of it all. Like I think again, producers of people who produce these shows, like they're often the scapegoats and the punching bags for like cast members and fans when things don't go their way. But and they're not angels and they're not perfect people, but they're just doing their job. Yeah. And they're often an easy scapegoat for cast members. And here's a situation where we have Meredith like in a situation she got herself in trying to throw every anyone under the bus to kind of like deflect the attention off her. And I think the rest of the cast thought it like just thought it was really low of her to pull the whole like production excuse on them. And I think it was more like, yo, you're going to do that. Like that's almost like that's kind of like that's like amateur bachelor hour, you know, where like people who go on the show kicked off two weeks or like, well, that wasn't me. That was it was the edit or whatever. And I think for these these reality TV professionals in Bravo, like that's that's they're like we're like, we don't do that amateur shit, you know, that's kind of how I took it. Yes, especially in the housewise world, like you don't blame production because housewives are usually pretty close to the people that are working with them. Like they already like crying. It sounds like maybe there was even a specific person. Yeah, like Heather did it with the black guy for a split second and then said sorry for it because I think they know how much these the production cares about them. And then also before we move on, Mary falling asleep while Whitney's talking. Well, my favorite part was Andy of all people calling her out for it because I'm like, Andy, you're the one who's always like, I just thought back to like Dereet how like every season I feel like Andy's like yawning and Dereet's like, Andy, don't you fucking marry? Am I boring you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then he's calling Mary out and she's like, no, my eyes were just like, Also, they were filming for like 11 hours or something, weren't they? Let me cause we're taking that. It's like me when I'm when I totally fall asleep while Danny and I are watching a show and he's like, are you sleeping? I'm like, no, I'm wide awake. I'm just resting my eyes. Yeah. Well, another great season that all these women gave us congratulations as Andy said to them. Can't wait for next season. I hope they're all back. Honestly, they better be. I miss one. Throw in an addition, but you know, it is really a perfect cast right now. I hope. I mean, it really it ended in a kind of an ugly toxic way where it almost feels like, you know, are they getting. Is it are they getting too close or I don't know, can they regroup? There was the cute moment between Angie and Lisa. They like scorpions. Oh, we also haven't talked about it. Brittany saying she'll never film with Meredith ever again. Oh, yeah, girl. I don't think Brittany has that type of power. If Meredith is coming back, Brittany will come back. Yeah, still a friend of whether we like it or not. No, she's going to be a full time. Yeah, but I think she's coming back. I hope she comes back. I really wish when she stormed off and I know this is the last one, I really wish she would have just kept walking instead of turning around and being like, I'm not a victim. Stop calling me a victim. It felt very like when you're a little kid and you're like sister pisses you off and you like run away and then you're like, shut up. I hate this. Well, even when she came back and she like interrupted whatever conversation was happening between Mary and Meredith and she just like brought it back up and Whitney was like, hold on, like I was really interested in this conversation. I was like, I'm getting somewhere. And he's like, yeah, let's go back. Let's go back. Thanks Brittany. All right, well up next. Arden Marine joins us. She has a new hit show. She is playing the wife of Bert Kreischer on the new hit show on Netflix Free. Bert, she's also a huge fan of all things reality TV, including traders. And we will get into all of that with her coming up next. And I hope you enjoyed it. I hope you enjoyed it. I hope you enjoyed it. I hope you enjoyed it. I hope you enjoyed it. I hope you enjoyed it. I hope you enjoyed it. I hope you enjoyed it. I hope you enjoyed it. I hope you enjoyed it. I hope you enjoyed it. I hope you enjoyed it. I hope you enjoyed it. I hope you enjoyed it. I hope you enjoyed it. I hope you enjoyed it. 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It was a stressful audition because I loved the part. I love Bert. I did not know Leanne and a lot of my friends knew her and I intentionally did not watch videos because I didn't want to do an impression and they said a lot of people went in doing thick Southern accent impressions because she's like a Southern girl and so I decided to just read it and treat it like channeling apart and she reminded me of my mom. My parents married on a dare. I was also raised by a shirtless man. Oh, and so and my dad was a rascal and my mom was sort of Mary Poppins and super fun but like so I just channeled I made the decision like if you love Bert Kreischer you're not surprised that he's Bert Kreischer. If you love Bert Kreischer it's not a shock that his shirt is off. He might get into trouble and so I auditioned seven times. I had to keep going in and they said that I was the one who always seemed to be on his side and that only had to improvise like yeah that we am use I made him laugh. He made me laugh and that I wasn't scolding him like a bad boy. I'm like my mom loved that my dad was a rust like you're picking. She could have married a banker. She chose Bert Kreischer. Yeah, like so you're like that's what you love about him. Look how tan I am in your office. Can I just show that I got a spray tan for you guys. I hope I don't leave a stain. Honestly, that's so fascinating to hear because I think like the intuition right you watch so many like traditional sitcoms right. It's always like fancy pants wife and mom runs the house stupid annoying husband and then like it's fun to see someone like Bert like showcase his family and his life and to like to say like no I mean I might not be for everyone but I am for some people and like my wife loves me and like no she doesn't minimize me or condescend me or roll her eyes at me or like suggest that I'm constantly stupid like she loves me and I think that's that's really cool to hear. Thank you. I'm glad that comes through like Leanne picked me and which was also an honor and I made sure like she's an executive producer and it's very weird to audition you know for like hey Susie I'm playing Susie and I'm going to touch your man. I'm like walking in. So I made sure to introduce myself to Leanne first and and even in the auditions we had to do like a he was crying and I just thought if I was married to somebody and they were crying I would like touch them or try to you know comfort them. So I made sure to be like hey is it okay if I touch you and he was like ah intimacy coordinator I'm like no no like this is for Leanne bro this isn't for you like right like your wife is she's right here and it just felt you know I've never this is my first time being a leading lady and I which is like so like fun that is happening now. Amazing. And yeah finally but I feel like I would watch things and I never related to if I'm dating somebody I don't scold them I don't nag like I would just break up with if I found you that annoying that I had to treat you like a bad child like who you wouldn't want to date me and I don't want to date you. So I just think that's not the fun couples that I know like nobody is scolded by their wife like get out of there. How hard was it for you to like not break character because I just know that y'all are the funniest people ever. Dude I mean what is fun is that Burt was so cute because like Burt would come in he's such I think he does a such a good job of acting and he hadn't acted much and so he would try so hard and and I think it's also fun if you do break because I feel like the Anne would find something that Burt is doing funny anyway so like it just adds to I mean he is you what you see is what you get you've never met somebody better at being famous like he would order 400 cheeseburgers to set from McDonald's like everywhere he goes he's not only is like he's got his belly and he's shirtless he's also like a beast he's like six foot two six foot three he's a big guy we filmed in Atlanta in the summer so his shirt is never on in public so anywhere you go it's like shirtless drinking Santa and people just swarm and you've never met somebody that just is happy to get their picture ticket like he's he loves it he's like he's like a circus a drunk circus ringmaster who's got a huge heart. Oh that's so nice. I love Burt. And then you have these children on set too that you're like who are swearing and stuff and so and all the storyline is a little bit racy so there's also trying to keep it together because there's real children. Oh my god the whole thing was wild. It was so fun. Yeah. Arden can I say something and I want to hear what the rest of the household has to say about this but like you I mean I'm knowing you for a bit now. Yeah. Yeah. Now that you are a leading lady. Finally. Finally. Finally. On what is going to be no doubt a successful hit show on Netflix. I feel like you are really giving a perfect potential cast for a future white lotus season. Oh my god. Thank you. Like you scream white lotus character. Am I crazy? Oh my god. You're not crazy. I'm also seeing Hunting Wives. Oh my god. Thank you. Can I just please clip both of these and just can we just blast these. I mean your lips to Captain of Hollywood's ears. Mike White I would do any. I would play you could kill me episode one. You know what I mean. Just put her in. I auditioned for Parker Posey's part. Oh. And but by the way I don't even think they watched anybody's tape because I think he wrote it for her but and I'm such a Parker Posey fan that it was like an honor to lose a part to Parker Posey. Are you kidding me. But like I will play any Pilled Out woman. Any like I feel like on Gemstones I'll get yelled at by some rich dude. I will play like any Coolidge character. Whatever I'll work at the resort. I'll be like somebody that's working at the front desk who's just like you know doing doing the best she can and failing anything. I'll do anything. I feel like a negative sexual influence to like the guy who just turned 18 on the family trip. Oh my God. Which I did on Inseachable. That would be exact. He's legal. I could be like. Yeah. Obviously illegal. But legal. But legal. Let me tell you what. When I got divorced it was weird when you've been married and I got I was like single for the first time in my life like really as an adult coming out of the pandemic you know your normal age range like they're all married you know or the guys your age they want to date the 18 year olds. So it's like the outer edges that were coming for me but the main group was like the real young guys were taking swings. It was. I love that. It was like full GameStop. Yeah. For sure. It was crazy. And did you dabble in GameStop? You know what like honestly at a certain point. She applied for a job. I did. I was like. Did you get it? I love Assassin's Creed. I did date a bunch of younger guys. Yeah. I dated a bunch of guys that were much younger. Mostly because they were also the ones that weren't threatened by that I've been in comedy or like that I like own a house like they've been raised by cooler women than guys that are like mad at you somehow that you. Period. So it's like the guys like you own much bigger houses than I do. What do you care that I have a little house like so yeah the younger guys are cool. They don't care about the age difference. You know I did. I am now dating a respectable adult man but I have dabbled in the younger guys were very cool and not threatened and like I had no problem with it. No guy can do it. Why can't I woman who cares. No absolutely. The age difference would come out when we would do karaoke. The karaoke of it all was like. They're like K popping it. Yeah exactly. And they're like oh this was at my fifth grade dance. I was like this is my it's like the my first dance at my wedding like whatever. This is Shania Twain. Yeah. So have you found that younger guys swing at you. Okay so I recently went out with a couple of girls that were like four or five years younger than me and this guy approached us and was like oh my god you girls are beautiful. I want to set you up with my friends. When he found out I was 32 I was too old for any of his friends. Mind you this guy's 38 and he was like I might have one friend that might be interested. Wait he was 38 and his friend was 38 and then. Wait whoa whoa whoa his friend was 38 and he said that you're too old for him. No he said he said he's the one friend that might be interested is 38 and he's like but you might you're on the cusp. That's so and that's crazy. And then I went outside of the club and a young whippersnapper that couldn't even get in. That's what we're talking about. He came right up to me and he said you are the most beautiful woman I've seen. By the way. I said you can have my number sir. I mean I will sneak you in. Yeah and I will get you inside because I know the bouncer. Young man you're coming my way. I will say the other guy that I dated that was older than me. He was six years older than me and he was like he had a problem with my age. I was like and he was six years older. I'm like so that's what I'm saying. Truly the young guns don't care. I would talk about it on stage and they would still come up and be like they don't care. They're like and I feel like great like I don't care. Whatever if you're cool and you have because they're also not they're not cynical yet because the world hasn't failed them. They're like like I had some optimistic. I dated a guy for a year and a half that was much younger who was great. Great. Yeah. Yeah. I mean listen I think it's you know as we all get older like to your point Arden it's just like it affects others negatively and yeah there's just a lot of bad options as we get older. You know what I have to say that I'm having I've had a nice really fun to date. I just can't believe Susie that a guy looked at you. Yeah. You know it was just like okay now I see what you look like you know what regardless of what he thought you know and then found out your age and just based off a number alone. I want to wrestle him. Yeah I can give you his name and you can wrestle him. I'm gonna go I'm gonna be like Naka. Like if you were 29 would that have been okay. Oh yeah what's the age number. Well the girls I was with a 27 year old and a 28 year old and he was like okay cool. And then 32. So he was like just deep sea fishing like like the deadliest because like let me get all like I'm gonna get like a haul of women that I'm gonna maybe. Right. And like what did his friend owe him you know like why was he doing all of this work for his buddy. Very true. It was it was I guess he just had friends. This guy was taken which you know maybe shouldn't have approached us in the first place but he was like I've got friends. Yeah yeah he won't be taken for a while. Don't worry about me I'm not hitting on you. Yeah I cannot believe how shy I need my legs. I mean truly if you want to do your makeup in my legs right now the shine is wild. It was it sounds like the classic asking for a friend. Right yeah for sure. Yeah that was it was funny though honestly my girlfriends were very offended and I was like they should be. I was like don't even give them the time of day like we didn't ask to be set up ladies like we're not asking for this but they were like oh my gosh are you serious like get away from us. Like they were they took a very personal where I was like it's fine I'm used to it like it's LA. Honestly you probably took it better than them Suze. They probably went home and they're all like we got three years. Right we're approaching. We got our early years. Honestly I'm just gonna I'm gonna say yes to the first proposal honestly. I know it's tragic over here. Dude that is so I'm here to say ghost of Christmas future leading lady now who care like stick to it yourself have a good time. Thank you. Like just. All right what's the best decade of your life. The best what. Decade of your life. 20s teens 20s 30s. Now I would say the last 10 years. Nice. Yeah the last 10 years for sure. I would say 40 and up 40 and up for sure and I remember turning 30 I mean like oh my god. I remember like being so devastated and then I truly can say that I'm more comfortable in my skin. I like I'm happier. I think I feel cuter. I like I feel like I've landed in my I know how to set a boundary now. Right. I can just like it can be with a light touch. Like I feel like I have more balance. I have hobbies. Like I would say the last 10 years for sure. Beautiful. By far like by far and there have been a lot of good ones but it's like not even close and I used to not believe people wouldn't they. I'd be like yeah right. I was like no no that's actually true. I believe it because honestly I think every year I've gotten older. I I may have in fact gotten uglier but I literally feel hotter. I'm hotter than ever. No no we're both hotter than ever. I literally feel hotter than ever and I'm so comfortable and so I'm like I actually believe people when they say it just gets better. It actually does. I feel like I'm experiencing it even though I can look at pictures and be like oh no I was definitely hotter than but I feel hotter now. And I look I saw you on television like you fucking by the way absolutely adorable but like peak hotness right now like I just I do think I also think like there's a certain thing when you start to like yourself and know yourself that is when it's less I used to be so fear-based where it's like I may not be for everyone. I may not be everybody's cup of tea. I've survived my biggest nightmares and I'm like and they've all worked for me and not against me. Like I love my life has gotten way better because of anything terrible that's happened. Yeah and like and and I feel like it starts from within like I just like myself more. Honestly I don't know. She's I feel like we need to clip all of that. I'm like that's beautiful. Honestly young women need to hear that too because I think in general there is so much fear that goes on with one aging to finding the right person. Nick made a joke. Oh they're going to say yes to the first proposal but like I mean truly like I'm 32 and it is a scary time to be like okay like you there is a technical you know time frame here. If you can't afford to freeze your eggs freeze your eggs don't freeze embryos freeze your eggs and like and I I do I look I got to LA at a time I started when I was 21. I started when I was 19 but I started when I was 21 and like you had to be a stick thin like I fully had you know like eating issues like which I didn't have when I first arrived and then and I you know I booked stuff early on because I was different and then it became like oh I want to just be like everyone else let me just be and I realized like don't give them what you they want make them want what you've got in every area of your life like like the more I started to try to be generic and bland the more I lost myself my light dim for my eyes and it was like and then I just I will not go against myself ever again like it is enough it was enough then like I've always had a little belly I have a little belly now I had a little belly then I think it's hot and womanly like I work hard like I don't know I just it's okay that I'm not a super model I'm super cute I was super cute then even though I was told that that I wasn't attractive I was told I wasn't and like I think I was never a leading lady because I am different I have a high voice I have a personality and it's like that's what got me this job and it took a long time but like in the meantime you know just just having balance like starting a podcast doing things with my friends writing doing stand-up playing tennis like trying to be of service to people like trying to have a life outside of here being in small towns like like I just I really hated myself when I was just trying to make myself generic it's never enough and fit into something yeah yeah honestly I think you're my new favorite person I think we are both meant to be on the podcast today what's when's your birthday what's your what's your birthday I'm a Leo I'm August 18th oh she's a Sunday Leo fire fire fire what are your birthdays I'm Virgo I love a Virgo you relax me I'm a Libra also relaxing these are all good science okay I'm a sadge a massage uh shameless plug Arden I feel like you're gonna really be excited about this new hit reality TV show coming your way on also Netflix tell me tell me it's called age of attraction are you on it we hosted and it's ageless dating oh my god you have you have organic organic it's 40 40 singles 20 women 20 men from ages 60 to 22 honey okay how could this that's what I'm okay now let me ask you this first of all when does it drop soon did you find the age didn't matter it was it was very inspired it was wildly successful there were a lot of connections there were and there was no like there were there were same age there were similar age connections yeah and there were connections that were a lot of age differences and obviously the show based off what it is focused more on those storylines but we didn't like we let it was really just like a singles mixer so you there was it was not like producer put it was like it was and did you film like in a house like like how long were they all together we were it was uh it's very like love is blind coded in terms of like the pacing of the show I can't wait can I come talk about it when it's on as a fan please please how many were you surprised by who liked who I don't want to give too much away but I think there's a lot of compelling characters okay and different types of age difference relationships that I think a lot of people will be inspired by I'm very into this I literally because I get I get a cellular reaction I'm like having a visceral my tail is wagging you can see right like we need to eat a good meal my hair is my hairy blonde arms are standing off I'm like that excites me congratulations I'm happy for you guys thanks it'd be fun I've uh I think you know you never know obviously with no it's gonna do well I'm having a chemical feeling about it I think it's gonna be a big hit we'll see I love love is blind okay uh let's talk a little traitor so you're watching I am watching I'm one episode behind I'm really enjoying it this season I think Rob is a really fun trader and he's very good like I hated myself for having a crush on him on Love Island like I really hate and I've never seen a man be able to pull off 90s overalls denim dark denim with no shirt like this man because it feels organic to him the snake wrangler yeah would you ever go on the show yes yes yes I love games I would be a very bad trader but I would love to be I love to be on the game shout out Candice's styling I'm loving her little like her little her hero look with her red thing and her like like her stewardess hat and they have to do with their own hair and makeup and I I feel like that would you ever do it I would love to do it someday it would be a lot of fun I haven't had the time or the opportunity to do it yet have you guys been watching oh yeah okay watching Michael Rappaport eat eggs it's my fear so I am I I'm trying to be like on on dates I've tried to learn how to eat the European way because I eat really fast because like I grew up and if everyone like would distill your food so I eat defensively so I so I'm aware I try to slow down so my fear of what what in my brain on any date what I think I look like is Michael is Michael Rappaport hungry hungry hippo plates in the mouth like an angle down like that's what I it's my fear I look like on a date but like the watching him eat is I feel like he reminds I've said this before but he reminds me of a Tim Robinson character yeah I think he should leave he literally is a character from he could be he could be the lead in friendship friendship wish so can we also just shout out I think you should leave the haunted that adult's only haunted house oh my gosh who are you enjoying on traitors who are you rooting for I think Rob I mean just as a trader I've been you know like we had the pleasure of interviewing with him when he was on Love Island he's had and you could tell very quickly that he's smart you know he's an introverted guy so like I you know I always kind of relate to people like that when I'm in the same room with them yes and it's always fun to see someone who people underestimate underestimate thank you and he's playing up he's playing a great game and my favorite like you know he's really good was when Eric what was hit the magic ears is is is Michael yeah yes yes you know you know you before Michael said it was like these like huh you can hear footsteps what are you dare devil he's so good laugh he can hear the laugh oh here the laugh and then Ron could hear the footsteps and jam jam there it could hear the laugh yes exactly and Rob and Rob goes you know I've heard some of Eric's music that's that's a really good point and I don't think Rob believed that at all but like he was smart enough to like validate as a person with a small blonde woman with a high voice like I've been under us and people say talk to your face like you like I know you're talking to me like I'm in it you know when people treat you like you're dumb and you're you know and you're right that his acting was so good in that moment and I want to just take a pause and give you a shout out Nick you just see your like how he's quiet and like that you like the like the introvert when the person I dated for a year and a half I remember you on your podcast you talk about like fundamentally are you like the going out or are you the staying like the just the I am more of a stay at home person and like like but I thought about like just when you break it down like that like is this a part like I can present extra like at the end of the day I am more of an indoor cat like I I like to go out but I look out for dinner and then like I don't need to be at the party till four like maybe one but I've thought about that like that if you're not if you don't have the same team jerseys maybe it's not the right like I think that's such a smart way I heard you and I thought about it and that was a part of my reasoning of like this might not be the right person for me maybe not your guy it wasn't good time not your guy it wasn't exactly a good time until it's the most stressful time you're like you're still out okay wait back to traders I'm surprised at how well the three traders are getting along they're playing nicely the smart I think they took a page at the last season we're like I think Lisa Rena's been great you know I think she's Dorinda's been great Dorinda's been great well I think a lot of people are we're expecting Lisa to kind of Lisa Rena and kind of be unpredictable but to your point she's been a great team player in that vein she's flying under the radar and and not you know getting herself in trouble Dorinda's been great you know Dorinda looks very pretty I feel like she's been mellow because having seen her and housewives like when she gets fiery I feel like she's really she has been mellow when she's sweet she's so sweet makes me want to go to blue stone manor um so wait how would you guys style yourself like who who do you think has the best styling man and woman I think this season's pretty bad I don't think anyone is really blowing our minds yeah I thought our boy Dylan Efron last season nailed it styles himself beautifully beautiful yes yes I mean look I appreciate I appreciate in uh Monet's all the all the like the pins I I do think Candice I think her like what she's going for I like her sort of heightened Elle Woods looks are very cute on her yeah Candice has done a great job and I feel like they've done a good job with their own hair and makeup like they have to do it themselves I think they all look very cute I think I like more more Mara oh yeah Mara I don't know if it's just that I think she's so beautiful that she's so pretty is crazy that I just like stare at her I know when she wears any like her patent leather outfit yes I was gonna say I think she had like a plum leather she had a plum leather and then she had a leather she's so pretty do you think she and Rob would ever like are they single what's the deal because there's some I think the internet's hoping that I know I've seen some things I would I would be into that me too yeah they're cute okay Colton I'm not into the aqua blue white sea captain look no I don't know why I would have a hand collar yeah yeah yeah I don't love the pearl ties the pearl ties Scottish I feel like the pearls really like peaked on paradise like six years ago it's like too late for the guys with the pearl ties but I will say the the preview for the next episode they do like a quick flash and it's like slow mo and I'm pretty sure Colton's outfit looked sick in that I will say I that's I haven't seen it in full yet but they did like a little flash forward and I was like okay that that eats and he got his moment in that slow mo because I also feel like you got to be careful when a stylist gets their hands on you it's a man they can make you look like a magician I think he was kind of looking like a magician I gotta be honest I think you can almost have you have you ever been overly styled like early days did anybody ever magician you oh my gosh wait I need to see pictures no I there I almost took a I almost took a leap that I didn't and it was like it was a it was when I hosted the red carpet for the people's choice okay what was the what was what were you almost a picture of it this is incredible it was like a onesie okay a onesie short sleeve okay okay like a jumpsuit it was a jumper yeah a romper a romper it was a romper well did it have legs yeah that was a jumpsuit yeah it wasn't like bj on gemstones like full romper situation wait this is so funny I've never heard of anyone describe it as a magician and you're so right sometimes I sometimes I have male friends that and I will not name names so I've had some male friends at like one or two events I'll see them and I'll be like oh my god so and so they got styled like they are now a full magician there's too many rings there's like a weird flat brim hat it's like you're a father of three you're a father of three yeah there's a lot of silver bracelets there's like there's a magician thing happening there's like you got over styled if you just like Coco Chanel just take a few things off right but the men in particular get because by the way men can now have fun with their fashion but you got to know who you are what the story is and I appreciate a man having fun but you can tell when it's performative not originating from them and somebody talked them into now's your chance yes let's put you in a mess dress I'm like I think I deleted the photo oh man it's too true but I almost got convinced to wear it and what what color was it white it was black and turquoise pairing I'm glad that you didn't but I also appreciate that you almost said yes you almost said yes to the dress listen I want to push my boundaries of comfort I think that the place to do that would 100% be traders yes wear a skirt wear a skirt oh yeah that kills me it kills me that being said the audience is not very gracious when it comes to taking fashion risks why I've never said anything mean about a man wearing a weird outfit on traders that couldn't be made on trip I've you done it on traders but who have you who have you Colton okay I just don't let's talk about he's built like a linebacker and I don't know why they're dressing him like the grandma from Courage the cowardly dog I just don't think it's good which outfit do you like the most and which one are you like get out of here um I really really did not like the pearl tie they're styling him like Harry Styles right and it's like Harry Styles already you're like what are you doing but to me it's almost and again I'm not trying to be look I know what I look like right now I know I'm too orange so I want to say I like my outfit I'm too tan I want to say so I'm not trying to throw throw stones at glass houses it does feel Harry Styles it feels almost like hot topic Harry Styles where Harry Styles feels a little more actual knit like the actual like they got the like real homemade quality and he was sort of early days to do it a little earlier you know like this strawberry would like you know I'm up at the beach with Canyon yeah the oh my god the like bracelets this feels a little more just like God of Azara mm-hmm it feels like if Harry Styles was Meryl Streep and Devil Wears Prada remember what is Anne Hathaway learning about Cerulean and Devil Wears Prada yes that's so good that's a solid reference okay I respect that look I'm still enjoying it but yeah who's what man are you liking the look of um looks wise outfits oh yeah I don't know that's I was just like looking to see if I could get some like I don't think there's anyone in particular standing out to me I like that Michael Rapaport was like I'm just gonna do Michael Rapaport true and honestly could you imagine if he showed up in like a Scottish right I actually could see him in a Scottish killed and then being offended when everyone's when he's like what do you mean I can't wear this I mean look I haven't gotten up to when he starts taking swings so like I haven't I haven't seen the problem part I know it's coming look this is not news for me I do what I do want to say and people are people are complicated I love that the guy loves the housewives franchise I did Bravo con with him we did Scary Island we did Real Housewives Theater I played Sonia Morgan I ordered a Sonia by Sonia Morgan dress he sincerely loves the housewives Arden you've been so much fun guys Mary can we just can you just Arden you want to hear a rapid recap of the Real Housewives of Potomac before we say goodbye to our audience oh my god yes Mary can you take it away well if you miss the most recent episode of the Real Housewives of Potomac here's a rapid recap we pick up still in Colorado Angel and Giselle arguing about whose trip this is the girls would rather go to the four seasons than fly fish before getting on a plane so it seems like Giselle is winning the ownership of the trip battle but then they still are going to go fly fishing which causes drama of course Wendy thinks Angel's biggest issue on the group is that she just has her personality and she can't do anything about that Jazzy doesn't think that Stacy actually wanted to go to her wedding and she just went because Ashley and Wendy went Wendy then called her out on a point blank and was like you're a fucking liar and then apparently Chris Samuels gave a little sly look to Ashley Darby one time when she asked him about hooking up with Stacy so it means Stacy may have actually hooked up with Chris Samuels but Stacy deflected by saying Jazzy was recording her and then also if we're wanting an update on the fly fishing saga that's happening right now the girls end up in the absolute middle of nowhere in an RV in a mountain and the flight leaves in two hours it's bad vibes Angel I don't know what you're doing with your planning girl not great also all of this like Wendy had to have two gas station margaritas while dressed in all Chanel this is the only way to watch the house yeah and then angels group got lost and then Giselle's group decided that they should just pack it up and go back to the airport but there was so much food at the excursion the fly fishing one that they didn't I felt bad about that I did too for the company I know it felt like one of the mirages when you almost push through and you see it but then it's not there anyway it was back like you know like every like sitcom or movie back in the day they would never eat their food I always like you know it'd be like McCauley Colkin sits down it's this delicious mac and cheese and then the robbers show up it's like why can't he just eat his food first I exactly it's on every bachelor date exactly yeah anyway and then instead of going fly fishing everyone just decided to tell Stacy they wish she was a normal human woman um and Wendy says she still loves Stacy but she just wants her to be honest and that's it that's the when they were confronting Stacy about only going to the wedding because the other women went and they're like you you didn't eat like we got you got the wedding invite before you even started your business and she goes indeed wow can I ask your opinion because because of like all the promo for Burt stuff and I'm doing traders and I'm doing a heated rivalry right now should I so should I do which should I do Beverly Hills Salt Lake City or Potomac right now Salt Lake City okay great Arden you guys always a pleasure please come back and talk some age of attraction oh my god I can't wait I literally can't wait I got even hearing it again my hair is standing up so I think it's going to be a hit and congratulations and I hope you guys get back safely free bird is up right now on Netflix it's a fast watch it's funny it's edgy it has heart it's got like raciness but like it's you can watch it like two hours and where can people follow you all that fun stuff I'm on Instagram at Arden marine my r.i.n I was just on righteous gemstones and um and my podcast will accept this rose we're about to we're about to do traders and then um and then we'll be doing we're gonna be doing the Frankie season on bachelor so Frankie season okay so fun so fun thanks for coming sorry we're gonna be there in person oh my god I'm sad next time get back safely invite us over for game night oh my god I'll tell Jim thank you guys for listening thank you to our guests Arden we will see you back next week if you haven't listened to the Going Deeper episode with Seth Rollins and his wife Becky Lynch it's an episode you do not want to miss so be sure to check that out we'll see you back on Monday bye spring is packed patios parties wedding weekends and RK zero proof keeps you in the mix without the morning after regret as the original zero proof spirits brand RK's warm molecule gives you that real deal burn of whiskey or tequila with none of the alcohol zero calories zero sugar and a whole lot of freedom to enjoy the moment sip smarter this season at RK zero 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