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70 min
•Dec 8, 20254 months agoSummary
The Toast hosts Jackson Clodden and Sachi Lou Freebush discuss celebrity breakups, streaming wars, and personal life updates. Key stories include Braxton Miller and Alex Earl's split, Kelsey Ballerini's reflective Sydney performances, Keith Urban dating rumors with Jennifer Lopez, and Netflix's acquisition of Warner Bros. Discovery amid Paramount's hostile takeover bid.
Insights
- Modern celebrity breakups are increasingly handled with maturity and privacy rather than public airing of grievances, reflecting a shift in relationship discourse away from podcast confessionals
- The streaming wars are intensifying with all-cash offers and hostile takeovers, indicating HBO Max's strategic value as the key asset that could determine market dominance
- Artists are publicly reconsidering the impact of their past work, with Kelsey Ballerini's acknowledgment of harsh divorce lyrics showing evolved perspectives on accountability in songwriting
- Influencer relationships with athletes face unique pressures from distance and career trajectory misalignment, particularly when one partner's fame trajectory accelerates significantly
- Spotify Wrapped data reveals listener behavior patterns and serves as a cultural touchstone for music consumption trends across demographics
Trends
Celebrity relationship privacy as a status symbol and sign of maturity in high-profile breakupsStreaming consolidation through acquisition and hostile takeover as the dominant business strategyArtists revisiting and recontextualizing past work in light of personal growth and accountabilityInternational markets (Australia/Sydney) as key testing grounds for country music expansionInfluencer-athlete relationships facing dissolution due to geographic relocation and career divergenceGospel music crossover projects gaining traction among pop/rock artistsPodcast and vlog content as primary platforms for influencer monetization and audience buildingAll-cash acquisition offers signaling financial desperation in competitive media markets
Topics
Celebrity Breakups and Relationship PrivacyStreaming Wars and Media ConsolidationInfluencer Marketing and Personal BrandingCountry Music International ExpansionDivorce Accountability in SongwritingAthlete-Influencer Relationship DynamicsGospel Music Crossover TrendsSpotify Wrapped as Cultural PhenomenonHostile Takeover Bids in MediaDancing with the Stars Impact on CareersSocial Media Discourse and Cancel CultureCelebrity Friendship LoyaltyMusic Festival and Venue ExperiencesContent Creator Monetization StrategiesPublic Figure Mental Health Narratives
Companies
Netflix
Acquired Warner Bros. Discovery in a major streaming consolidation deal, signaling dominance in streaming wars
Warner Bros. Discovery
Acquired by Netflix; includes HBO Max, a key strategic asset in the streaming wars
Paramount
Launched hostile takeover bid for Warner Bros. Discovery with $30/share all-cash offer after Netflix deal
Starbucks
Mentioned in opening ad read regarding healthcare benefits for baristas
American Idol
Referenced as the platform where Jennifer Lopez and Keith Urban met as judges in 2010
Dancing with the Stars
Alex Earl competed and placed second; discussed as launching pad for her career trajectory
Houston Texans
NFL team where Braxton Miller plays; context for his relocation affecting relationship with Alex Earl
New York Giants
NFL team where Jackson Dart plays; mentioned in context of alleged DM to Alex Earl
People
Jackson Clodden
Co-host of The Toast podcast discussing celebrity news and personal updates
Sachi Lou Freebush
Guest co-host for final week of 2025; eighth appearance on the show
Alex Earl
Dancing with the Stars alumna who split from Braxton Miller after two years; career on the rise
Braxton Miller
Wide receiver who split from Alex Earl; relationship ended due to distance after Houston relocation
Kelsey Ballerini
Performed in Sydney; added 'Revisionist' to setlist and reflected on harsh divorce lyrics about Morgan Evans
Morgan Evans
Ex-husband of Kelsey Ballerini; subject of her album 'Rolling Up the Welcome Mat'
Keith Urban
Reported dating Jennifer Lopez; met her as fellow American Idol judge in 2010
Jennifer Lopez
Reportedly reached out to Keith Urban after his split from Nicole Kidman; finalized divorce from Ben Affleck
Nicole Kidman
Recently split from Keith Urban; met Jennifer Lopez as fellow American Idol judge
Taylor Swift
Attended Kansas City Chiefs game with friends Lena Dunham and Selena Gomez; maintains private relationship approach
Zach Brown
Performed at The Sphere in Las Vegas; subject of online satanic ritual conspiracy theories
Old Dominion
Performing residency at The Sphere in Las Vegas; praised for high-energy performances
Jonas Brothers
Rumored to be performing at The Sphere; discussed as having evolved into more authentic era
Nick Jonas
Releasing gospel album; performed 'Jealous' with gospel choir, inspiring new album direction
Jackson Dart
Allegedly sent DM to Alex Earl asking if she was single; Alex denied the screenshot was real
Jalen Brunson
Engaged with The Toast on social media after watching episode; significant moment for the show
Lena Dunham
Attended Chiefs game with Taylor Swift; previously controversial for antisemitic article about Jack Antonoff
Selena Gomez
Attended Chiefs game with Taylor Swift; long-time friend in her inner circle
Jack Antonoff
Subject of Taylor Swift song 'You're in Love'; previously dated Lena Dunham
Diddy
Subject of Netflix documentary; convicted on lesser charges; discussed as morally corrupt figure
Quotes
"I think we are so used to people breaking up and then going on podcasts and saying you know what color their shit stained underwear was like the worst parts of the relationship... we're not used to two people who maybe just like broke up and still have respect for one another"
Jackson Clodden•Early discussion of Braxton Miller and Alex Earl breakup
"I do look back on that and I wish I had been kinder... there are some really kind of harsh lyrics and they're like about him taking half"
Kelsey Ballerini (referenced)•Sydney performance discussion
"I love love love TS, but I'm not trying to be never a fan of comparing"
Kelsey Ballerini (referenced)•Response to Taylor Swift comparison comment
"We are offering shareholders 17.6 billion dollars more cash than the deal that they currently have signed up for with Netflix"
David Ellison, Paramount CEO (referenced)•Streaming wars discussion
"I feel like people are finally finally realizing that I'm funny"
Sachi Lou Freebush•End of episode reflection
Full Transcript
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And also, this is your eighth time hosting like the jig is up. And also, you make me record so fucking early because you have a job. So sorry, everyone, that you didn't get a clue. It's Sachi Lou. It's Sachi Lou and her arms are covered. You're looking very safe and comfortable in the studio today. Thank you. But wait, this is your last week. Wow, you guys are really taking a long vacation. This is the thing about owning your own business. You can do it on your own. You can do it on your own. You make your own days. So one thing about us, we are going to take like a healthy Christmas break. And you're going to take the entire summer off. Well, excuse me, I had a baby. I had to take the summer off wedge. And we are going to take off all the bank holidays. Of course, as you should. Now, some years, I'm glad you brought it up. It's an American company. The final day of the toast is December 12th. Okay. Some days like the holidays line up, like the way the week's line up. It's like, well, if we then did the week after that, then we're done the 19th. Like that's too close to Christmas. Do you know what I mean? No, it's not. A couple of years ago, like the last Friday was like the 16th. That's perfect. So that does that mean you guys are off the starting of the 12th and then you're back, Jan 5? Why are you counting my time off? I work hard. That's crazy. Yeah, it's crazy. And like that's what you get when you're a successful CEO. No, no, no, totally. This is called jealousy. Yeah. Well, listen, jealousy, jealousy. Yeah, your friends are so cool. Yeah. I listen to them every time. Every time. What song is it? Oh, you don't know that we're right by. Your friends are so cool. We go out every night. You're not young. Yeah, you live in the little life. You're not young. Oh, you know that. I'm younger than you. I am young. I am younger than you. I approve it. Okay. Birth certificate. Prove it. Because you're looking old with your arms covered. Oh, oh. Okay. Really hit me where it hurts. Sachi is fresh off the plane from Las Vegas. She spent the weekend in Vegas. Vegas. You went to the sphere. Viva Las Vegas. Hey. Hey. Yeah. How was it? It was so fun. The sphere was the craziest thing. You saw Zach Brownman. Zach Brownman opening night. Did you see Kendra Scott? No, I didn't. But I did see V. Her TikTok that she was there. She was there. Yeah. And can you explain to me? I saw like a lot of comments about. D'Amana. Yeah. What happened? Okay. I don't know why someone would think that. Right. Based off of online. So what's the rumor like that they're demon hunters? Like, I mean, you know, everyone says that like Hollywood days did the sacrifice. He was Zach Brownman. He was like, not at Hollywood. Right. Not at all. However, I will say, but also he doesn't like have the best reputation. You know, right? Right. Right. Yeah. The X Y's. Yeah. And like just like, I don't think the industry like really like loves him. It's kind of like an outlaw. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That being said, so here's the thing. There were some parts where I was like, this is kind of weird, but it's also because like a lot of the theme for his new album, love and fear is like skulls and like things of that nature. Dark imagery. It's like dark imagery, but does that necessarily mean satanic? I don't know. Because then I went to Old Dominion. Okay. So I watched every single. I actually skipped through a lot of your Zach Brown. No events like your seats were kind of high up. Okay. I want to talk about this. It's on purpose. Okay. Those are the best. No, no, but by the way, I had Pitt and I sold them for where I was because I said, I'm going to be in the pit. No, I'm going to be in the pit because the whole point like honestly, Zach Brownman may as well not be there. The stage is that small for a reason. Like it's really just about there. So it's like you need to be center middle to like see it all. So like that was on purpose. Sure. It was. I had Pitt. So I just like, I wasn't like obsessed with your stories. And then I watched every single one of your stories from Old Dominion concert. Are they doing a residency or was it just like a show? I think it's like a little bit of a residency. They're perfect for a residency. They are amazing. The show girls like it was so party. I have seen Old Dominion like eight times. Weirdly, I'm not even like, I'm a big Old Dominion fan, but I'm not like a fan. I just found them myself at like their shows a lot. Yeah. And they put on such a great show. And they're just so happy to be there. And they're right for Vegas. Like they're perfect for Vegas. Yeah. And so I was almost more jealous of your Old Dominion stories than I was of your Zach Brown. Like it's cool to go to the sphere. Of course. It was cool to go to the sphere and it was like such a good one to do it at. And like, I'm sorry, like chicken fried. Like at that venue, it's just, there's nothing, there's nothing comparable. That's so funny. I think of the sphere, like I don't want to hear chicken fried. What do you want to hear? Like rainbow by Casey Musgraves. What about both? You know, I'm just trying to think like, and they don't have like a ton of shows there, especially ones that we would like. So I understand that when you heard Zach Brown, like you're going to go because to go to the sphere is so cool and you want to see an artist that you know. Yeah. I just feel like for me in particular, I have not heard or seen a concert. That you're gonna have to. The sphere that I have to go to. Like if Casey Musgraves, I would go right. If of course, like Luke and Taylor, even though like I don't need to see Luke Holmes or Taylor Swift there. Like that's not the ideal venue. No, but also Taylor would slay. Like I don't even think it's the right venue for like a Luke or like a Chris Stapleton. Maybe a Chris Stapleton actually. Like what are his visuals? I don't know. I'm trying to. What are Zach Brown man visuals? That's sure. I guess he didn't. That's well. So that was there in the issue of Satan. I'm trying to think like who I would really love to see at that particular. I heard a rumor that Jonas Brothers are gonna. And I feel like that would slay. I have to speak my truth. Oh my God. Are you also so mad that we haven't gone? I'm like, I'm obsessed with the Jonas Brothers. I feel like I was like a Jonas Brothers hater. I've just been like critical of them because they did have like a weird few years where like they became the biggest fan in the world. They got back together, sucker went number one and then like shit was weird. And now they're in their era where they're just like having fun. I think a lot of people are making fun of them for all the tick tocks that they make and all the projects that they're doing that like make me think that they might be in debt. Right. But to be honest, I feel like they're just like living their truth and that's what's coming through to me for a while. I feel like they weren't living their truth. No. I think it's like they have so much money. So they like just like to have fun and spend it and do whatever. And then like they, but they also work so hard. And I do, I do know like that apparently that they are the hardest working men in the industry. It's coming through. And I saw, I just, they're all like all up in Jonas talk right now. And I just want to say like, I've been critical. So I feel like it's important that I say I'm loving this era. Yeah. I don't know which I'm not a Nick girl. I've never been a Nick girl, but like I'm right. I'm kind of straddling between Joe and Kevin right now. No, totally. But also just to give Nick a little bit of like pull, like he's coming out with an album. That's like a gospel album. And like, you know, he like loves it and it sounds so. Yeah. So he did that one gospel performance of jealous with the choir. I put my G music up and I'm perfect. And like everybody like loved it so much. And now 10 years later, he's finally giving the people what they want. And I appreciate it. I saw a video of him singing with a gospel choir. It's just so crazy that that song's the metal of me. I call Paul. I feel like now she's in the music video. Is she? Yes. On the motorcycle. And also I feel like the lyrics to that chorus will never be clear to me because to me, this is what it sounds like. As I was just singing it, I don't know what I was saying. I put my chin music up. I thought cheer, but even still. And I'm puffing my chest. I'm getting ready to face you. You call me obsessed. Yeah. Now I think it's like this. I puff my way. I put my music. What kind of music is it? What do you mean? I put my chin music here. I don't think either. And I'm puffing my chest. I think it said I'm getting red in the face. Oh, to face you. No, I'm getting red in the face. You can call me obsessed. It's not your fault that they have. I mean, also I could look up the words. I don't want to. No, I know. It's always more fun this way. Yeah. Sorry. How did we get to the Jonas? Oh, you heard a rumor. That the Jonas brothers are doing this fear. Yes. Oh, yeah. Let me tell you how to go. Yeah. No, no, no, we have to go. Yeah. We're in the end of the trip. It's not. It's like own LA. Yeah. And so that was pretty tough. Yeah. And one of the craziest things I ever did was go to LA for one night. I would mean I went to LA for a one hour meeting and came home in the same day. Okay. Meeting. Yeah. Madison Ryan had to close the deal. Okay. But yes, it was super, super fun. Very happy to be home. So glad I did it. Really enjoying watching the discourse online. Yeah. The satanic rituals. The satanic rituals. And did you feel the presence of Satan in the sphere? No, I didn't feel the presence of Satan, but there were times where I was like, oh, this is a little weird, but like, I like just think that that's, that he's weird. And also I don't feel like we are ripe to like notice satanic things. Because I think there are people who's really like, I don't know what is Satan. No, I think it's also like anytime anyone sees like red, they're like the devil or Satan. But there's one time I did feel Satan. Okay. And it was at Eric Church's stagecoach performance. Yeah. Was that, was that there? No. Oh, okay. That's one of the strangest things I've ever been a part of. I was like, Illuminati here. But here's the thing, like, are we like going to get like sacrifice? You don't know what Satan is. No, I have no idea what it means. Right. So like you feeling Satan like girl, you don't know, you went to Yeshiva. No, I have no idea. But that I mean, I'm just like dark. I feel like something's dark is going on. But when other people feel Satan, like they know Satan, you know, they know what to look out for. Is it an actual thing to feel Satan? I don't know. Is Satan in the Bible? The New Testament, I believe. Oh. Satanic. It's the devil. I think it's the devil. And I think the devil has like personalities. And then when he puts, I'm in the middle of saying something. Yeah. So I think when, yeah, so like what I'm talking. So I think the devil like has this like alter ego called Satan. Got it. And he like comes and like looks like normal, exact brown man. It's like how Tate McCrae has like Tatiana. Yeah. It's like when I get drunk, I've like become cladette. I get Margaret. Yeah. Dark passenger, I think like something like that. Got it. But so and but it's acceptable for people to dress up as the devil on Halloween. That doesn't seem like. Well, I think you're getting into sort of. Yeah. You're saying I have a point. Yeah. Yeah. You got it. How was your weekend? Oh, let me put the iPad down. I mean, again, was good. Make it was good, you know, live, love, love. I'm scared. No, no, no, you know this already. I wasn't sure if I wanted to share. I was wondering if you were going to share. Two things happened this weekend. One, Jalen Brunson watched the episode of the toast. I just feel like we have to mention that on Friday. Ben and I talked a lot about Jalen Brunson. We posted a clip about it and he engaged with us on social media. Just like kind of a huge moment for the toast, huge moment for the toast for Ben. Your marriage. Yeah. For my marriage. And then the other thing is. Yeah. Yeah. You know, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You guys. Yeah. It's crazy. I feel as though when I haven't started yet, but like I've made the decision. Right. I think I'm going to start soon in the near future. Terminate my breastfeeding journey. I'll say that. It's been a very, very tough decision. I've been toying back and forth with it for a while. But you feel ready. You feel as though it's time. I feel as though it's time. I did purchase a can of formula. I haven't opened it yet. I'm going to spend purchase. But you're staring at it. That's like step one. I took a picture of it. Yeah. Step one. Yeah. Okay. I'm going to end this. So will my time. I also weighed myself this morning for the first time, which was obviously a catalyst for the formula journey. Right. Yeah. So just letting in for now. The weaning journey might. Might be starting. Might be starting. I'm leaning towards it. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I bought the formula. You did great. Thank you. You really did. Thank you so much. And I really enjoyed it. Yeah. And I highly recommend it. I really do. Like if I had to do it all over again, I would do it 10 times over. Yeah. That's what. That was your weekend. I'm like so upset about it and so excited. I'm upset about it because like. Like that's like, I love it. Like I really love it. You really do. I love it. People like, well, you have to run home every three, four. Yeah. Okay. Because you're Robin. What? You're Robin. I'm literally Robin. Like where the fuck else am I going to be? It's only about the weight loss, which just makes me feel so guilty. It's like such a shallow reason. Right. And such a selfish, selfish reason to stop. But you've been doing it for six months over six months. I feel like by the time I'm, think I'm going to be done, it will be seven months. Yeah. And I just feel like that's fine. That's normal, right? Yeah. No, I think it's like a college. Most people normally breastfeed for, I'm pretty sure I breastfed for 18 months. You didn't, but you were like a long breastfed baby. It depends. Some people don't breastfeed at all. I think some people do three months. Some people do six months or some people do like the whole year before you can start giving them other food. So I feel good. I'm so happy for you. I'm like talking myself into it. I feel good. You've knew I'm so happy for you. You have to do it best for you. I feel good. I feel good. I feel good. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You're such a great person to be hosting with me today because the stories are so good and they're very turdy. Sachi coded. Sachi coded. We've got Kelsey Ballerini sort of unraveling, having, having a moment. Having a moment in Aussie. In Sydney, we have Licks and Bracks. Licks and Bracks. Licks and Bracks. Potentially breaking up. Keith Urban has a new girlfriend and it's not who you think it is. Taylor went to the chiefs game. I would say four stories. If a fifth one pops up, I'll choose it, but there are four really good stories. And I don't want to choose like just some like piece of shit. Like I agree. Cause I feel like it. You know, so Sachi for you, Bush. Oshua Murdo. Oshua Murdo. Are you ready for the fast five stories? Yes, I am. The fast five stories that are brought to you by roller rabbit. Step into a world of color comfort and joy with roller rabbit known for their classic lounge wear and iconic pajamas. Roller rabbit is rooted in vibrant prints, thoughtful craftsmanship and the beauty in togetherness. 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I'm gonna start with the big story of the weekend Licks and lax licks and lax licks and brax They have split according to us weekly and then everybody else reported it as such After two years together a source confirmed to pay chicks on Saturday that the dancing with the stars alumni and NFL star have split that it was mutual It was distance induced the source said a page six spy tells the podcast Tells us that the podcast so that's a weird way to describe Alex. She's not she doesn't does she have a podcast? Oh, it's a vlog series. It's YouTube now, right and she's like a dancer. She's an influencer. She's a model She's a business woman. Yeah Alex was seen having fun at the one hotel in South Beach on Friday She recently attended our possible parties in Miami and of course page six has reached out to representatives for Alex Earl and the Houston Texans By receiver to no avail So this is just be being reported as widely true The only thing that's like throwing a wrench in it is that she made a TikTok last night and she was at Braxton's house Right now people are like, it's not true. She was at Braxton's house Here's what I think go I think we are so used to people breaking up and then going on podcasts and saying You know what color their shit stained underwear was like the worst parts of the relationship the worst parts of this person Sharing it all on her daddy that we're not used to two people who maybe just like broke up and still have respect for one another And they're not making tick-tocks about it. They're not even sharing that they're broken up It's just right through their reps and yes, they shared a home She lived with him in Miami, so she had to go home to Miami and he's gonna say what you can't live in my house Like maybe he's still oh, I don't know cares about her I think her shit's there like she has course. I think we're really not used to it I think like we're just so used to being like, all right, Queen sit down 10 part story time Yeah, whereas like I actually think this was like a really meaningful mature relationship I mean it didn't work out. Yeah for I think reasons we can all see like he got moved to Houston And she's on the rise and it's just like it's not gonna work Yeah, but I still think and maybe I'll be biting my words and she'll be sitting down on hot mess saying Braxton, you know Said I was ugly or whatever right, but I do think the vibe that I'm getting and I just think the internet isn't used to it Like the fact that she could be recording at his house People like well, they're not broken up right the fact that maybe like she could be recording there And he's just letting her stay there because he's still like respects and loves her. Yeah is so far into people No, it's crazy. I think like it's I think they're broken up I think her recording there just means like this is exactly as we thought we're gonna stay We're not gonna be getting this like 10 partel all she's not writing a book He's not going on a podcast like I just think we're not used to it. Yeah, I think it's all very healthy And I think it's sad. I think they're both really sad that they broke up same I also think like there's so many things about it like one I do think it really was like the distance thing like there's just like no way I also think that like this like the Alex I came out of dancing with the stars is a completely different Alex and the one I went into it. Yeah, no, she's like it's so like focused focused and also She's just like I think she she can level up like I think that there's there's more for her in her Relationship journey and so I always said that like I thought it was a weird pairing because like he's so random And we only know him as a player because of Alex It's not like he's Travis Kelsey and Jackie was always like yeah, but that's what makes the relationship like so cute Like she obviously really really likes him and Jackie totally changed my perspective because like it's not an obvious choice She could literally date Leonardo DiCaprio. Yeah, and I'm actually scared of who she's gonna date next because Most famous and the most gorgeous young woman on the planet I also like I do have to say like I feel as though she's like so smart an angel I think she's a real really good head on her shoulders. She's like so family oriented like I Really and like you can like see that and also what I think is interesting too It's like even watching her basal content like she is growing up like she's kind of like party and I love that Yeah, I agree. So I just feel like for her. She is like there's no the limit like simply Does not exist like I'm Austin but Even though glim-pull on Michelle brand I know obsessed obsessed. It's perfect. You see Cassie Randolph-Gamari. Yes I feel like she was famous for a while like a short period of time and it's Traumatized by it like obviously cold under water Stalking her like putting a GPS tracker, but I think she hated being famous I think she hated being a part of the bachelor world and I think she's like so happy right now I'm really happy for her. No, and she looked incredible. She was incredible like I just love that whole saga Yeah, I love Michelle being like this famous actress obsessed She's also like one of the most beautiful humans on planet Earth And I don't I never would have thought of her when we're always talking about who should glim-pull date Married married perfect married. So back to Lix and racks. Yeah, I want to also say one thing Sophia Colpo Sophia Colpo, I feel like the internet did her really dirty I think Alex I got thrown into the situation that she did not want to be a part of so she really did not engage I do feel bad for Sophia Colpo because this like was her boyfriend for many many years And I think Braxton was like not a hundred percent honest agreed I don't blame Alex at all and I like I don't blame Sophia people like Sophia's crazy It's like what imagine that was you like for real every so much crazier like of course So a part of me like hopes that like Sophia Colpo's a little bit healed in this not that it has anything to do with her I'm sorry for bringing you see the Jackson dart stuff. I did see the Jack. Did you see Alex's response? Oh, what? Oh, she was like, let's start this over. Okay, so basically if someone posted on a TikTok that someone it appeared to be a screenshot Close friend story and it was Jackson dart being like hey you single now and it was a screenshot of a TM from Jackson dart Who is who's on the Giants? He's a huge player. Okay, we love him sending Alex a message being like hey Are you single now and she wrote it hasn't even been 12 hours? And it went everywhere like blah blah blah and then Alex responded She's like, I don't know what this Photoshop photo is but one that never happened to I would never post that Damn, I know it made me be like, oh, I really want to be on Alex or else close friends No, same even though I do ship her and Jackson dart and I think they'd be an amazing couple I don't know who he is. He's like I'm telling you. I think that at this stage Athlete boyfriend is not the right call for her. I agree. She needs to go after Okay, I'm not a businessman bow. I'm thinking more like but you know who she'd be like great with even though like not available And maybe too old scooter wrong No, no, I Need to think how long and hard she's also so young like we forget what is she 23? I don't even think she's 25 yet. So scooter bronze like over 40. So no, right, right, right. I got by yeah, of course, of course I Just I'm not happy about it even though for a while like I was like this is not the right relationship for her I've become I had really thought I'm like, oh wow. She really they survived her Skyrocket to fame totally but now the sky rock is I didn't go higher Things one so now knowing this like him like the posting like the fake like supporting her stories on it like every week Is a little weird to me. Although I do feel like that was him and Her no for sure. It was not it was nice And she obviously chose not to show it during the Dancing with the Stars like filming. Yep However, I will say that if she did I think she would have won Why just cuz like more people would have been talking about her Like all that what do you mean Robert Irwin like the day of was like I have a rib injury And then he won and also I think Alex had a rib injury the entire fucking season and never said a word Although I wasn't you that we said like it's better that she didn't win. No, that wasn't me that like second place is where she She's not like the Dancing with the Stars girl now She doesn't have to go on the tour even though I think she is which is so crazy I think because she really loves dancing and I think she really loves Val and Jenna that happens a lot where people like fall in Love with the craft no no Jen Tran do you remember she like was taking dance lessons after The goggles left like you know, it happens to everyone it happens to the best of them I Feel ambivalent about this breakup I'm excited to see who she dates next. I'm actually afraid. I'm excited to just like watch the watch it all Also, by the way, do you talk about wouldn't you love it on Chicago? I Don't know if we did would you like to talk about it? No, I think it's crazy But I also just wanted to bring it up as to say I think that you and I should go see Lee and Michelle and Chess the musical Did you see it? No, that's why I'm saying that okay. I Love Lee Michelle and that she's the only person who get me to Broadway because you know, I hate sitting through a Broadway show Having said that I don't know what chess is about like either but apparently it's amazing Really the songs have been coming up on my tape talking. She sounds amazing. They sound good What I want to see like if I am gonna go see a Broadway show. I do want to see fellow Glee alum Jesse saying James. What's his name Jonathan Groff is Bobby Darren. Oh, I heard it's so good just in time I think it's called I would love that. Yeah, and also, you know who was in it, but I don't think she's in it anymore Do you know that girl I'm from the Charlotte Lawrence Lawrence. Yeah, is that her name? Yeah, the band. Oh, was she in a band? No, sorry Charlotte Lawrence is the other one who's dating Charlie Puth and like no, okay. Sorry. No, no no Gracie Lawrence. How's that? Okay, so you Sometimes I just feel like you're not as young as me So Gracie Lawrence is in this band, which is like big on TikTok. They're called like the Lawrence family band or something their popular song is Right now it's there must be something. No, I'm not saying it right. Oh, I'm like there must be something in the water Yeah, that's the song. No, you don't know something in the water. I Can't live you don't know what I'm talking about. I don't know what you're talking about like just give me two seconds Okay, so now I need to pull up my spot if I Lawrence family band. Yeah, that's called Lawrence. Okay, I I Was there song what's the one I want to see what she looks like this this grace Grace Lawrence she then replaced Renee rap on secret lives of college girls. Whatever it's called that show Oh, you're you were right for that like yeah, it didn't get good. Okay, whatever She was in the show temporarily as well. You don't know Grace Lawrence. You're looking crap. Uh, kind of She's good. I like her. Okay. Um, yeah, it's just like a young person thing not a big deal Don't feel bad. You know person don't feel like we're on different like at my feet don't feel bad. Oh also don't feel bad Broadway so that's what I would see if I were to go got it Okay, so I shouldn't go with you for test the musical I mean if you get a ticket like it's a good one and like you'll call the uber sure I'll call the word. I just like can't like put energy You know my club service and if I like don't have to like get it my hair done sure. Yeah, okay Let's talk about Kelsey ballerini's trip to Sweden Sweden. I'm sitting in Sydney so funny like Australia New Zealand area Yes, right there near each other. I don't know New Zealand Sydney Australia. Yeah, okay, Sydney Australia for sure New Zealand I don't know New Zealand is like part of not really like they're just like in the same region They're like two different countries. Yes. Yes. Yes, but it's a region got it. They love country music like Keith Urban Morgan Evans. Yeah, it's like a sub market of Nashville Like so a lot of country stars when they get really big their first like out of the North American region is Sydney It's like this weird thing where they love country music in Australia and so I Feel like it's like a side Nick Kelsey's like rich to level where she does shows in Sydney Totally once you go international thousands, but Sydney specifically that has a special Relation to country music. She did a couple of shows and a few videos slash moments went viral from the show the first is that I Kiss someone new last night and then she changes the lyric where she says and I don't care where you're sleeping Maybe and then there's like a little bit of a quiet and somebody shouted team Morgan, which is just like Why don't you know Kelsey? So she said fuck off which love She said team everyone's happy and it obviously went super viral Oh, and then she also flashed the Margot Walsh Ray move to the two middle fingers That is Margot's signature move when something literally, but I feel like now it's like this. Oh, but those mean different things. Yeah This is Margot's mad so Kelsey did it and Let's talk about that and then I want to talk about some of the other moments Normalize like shouting back at people. I'm sorry people I'm so comfortable and you got so comfortable screaming at things throwing things on stage like no hello shut up I agree like that video of Halsey shouting at the person if you say she's one more fucking time and they literally find who the person isn't throw them out like Normalize throwing people out I think the internet culture has made people really comfortable being animals a little too confident and you know Yes, stop the whole show turn the lights on out. Let's find this person. Yeah, that's shame bring back shame Bring back like flogging in the public square. Okay agreed. So yes, I love that. She like didn't let this moment go Yeah, then there were like a couple of things that happened on this tour The next thing I want to talk about is somebody posted a video of Kelsey at the show wearing this like fringe gold sparkly outfit and Posted a video for dancing in it like shaking the fringe and posted like It was like close enough welcome back Taylor sweat and it was not facetious It was a girl who was at the show a big Kelsey loves Kelsey like and Kelsey left a comment on it. Let me just find it Did you screenshot it? I did because I sent it to Jackie. We were just like talking about it. You know, okay, I Love love love TS, but I'm not Trying to be never a fan of comparing got it now it feels like Kelsey Maybe didn't get the reference like that's what people on the internet say like yeah close enough welcome back Yeah, like that's what people say to me So it was like fun internet Lauren. It was clearly made by a fan, right? Someone who you know paid for tickets. Yeah, and the girl like freaked out So sorry, I deleted it. I have the biggest in the whole world So I feel like Kelsey's in this like very sensitive reflective era Yeah, and that's hard to be like at shows doing when you're so raw obviously like her man was Wiling out member like with those Instagram chase a while in out. I forgot she's like going through a lot. Yeah, so I give grace I give grace. Well also She the second night to revisionist did she say something about revisionist? Yes, okay And this is I fucking love that. This is what I really want to talk about So she added it back into the set list and she gave a little speech Added it when she take it out. It just came out. It was never in the cell. Oh, yeah So she said for the first time she gave a little speech about like things that she would revise Oh, that's not so yeah, and she was like saying and it was all very pointed because she was in Sydney Which is where her ex-husband is from Morgan Evans. He is the you know subject of rolling up the welcome at the album Really took her to the next level and she was like I do look back on that and I wish I had been what did she say kinder I like or like given more like in terms of the lyrics and I think like there are some really kind of harsh lyrics and they're like About him taking half. Yeah. Yeah, and things that like happened in a divorce and then she also went on call her daddy I think that whole era was very much like healing for her But now she looks back on that being like I should feel a little bad Yeah And being in Sydney it feels even more and she was like a lot of people She's like it did so much for my career And I love the album and I will always like Charis the album But like it hurt a lot of people and I actually like really like that she said me to because I love that album and not to be like Annoying but like I was a Kelsey Ballerini fan for all these other bitches I didn't need rolling up the welcome at to know her to tell you on the other legends Yeah, right. No, that do you know subject to change my muscle memory, please please please so I like that she said this Because I have thought that and I know I mean Jackie talk about this all the time It's what I was just saying about Alex and Braxton We just like live in this era where like you break up with someone you're supposed to hate them Not only that and you're supposed to tell everybody like all the things that happened and part of being in a relationship It's like even if it doesn't end well and we always say like I'm not talking about like we're on a chicken fry like right tell us more Yeah, if you're seeing an abusive person like that person deserves no grace deserves no protection actually Deserves no respect But like I'm talking more like you fall out of love Yeah, and then like you just think you're supposed to go on a podcast and like air their dirty laundry like a little bit like Rachel Croccano, right and it's like no situation was also a little weird it was but it was still like a five-year relationship I just hate this thing where like and I feel like Alex Earl's never gonna tell us what went on with Braxton like a lot of respect for that I do think she'll talk about it at some point like on her about being broken up and being hard-working But not like and then Braxton said this and here's the screenshot like yeah, I hate that shit And we just live in a world that eats that up No, it's like everyone knows a little bit too much about each other And I think it's easy to get caught up in like wanting to do that. Yeah, and I think That's what happened to Kelsey Ballerini and now like in hindsight she sees like it's also good for her career I'm like look at Morgan like please. Yeah, no She's like I didn't need to go that hard I know and it's sort of feels like you know punching down now right because she's so famous So I really really like I have enormous respect for her saying this because a lot of people wouldn't even if they felt that way You know how hard is to admit that let alone in Sydney in front of in Sydney in front of so many people that is then now in front of the Whole world. Yeah, I this really it went a long way I feel and I think it's a really mature healed thing for a person to say yeah, and when I listened to the revisionist That's not what I thought she was talking about me neither There's no, you know classic, you know girly stuff. Yeah, yeah like just like you of course you look back at things And maybe you'd want to change them like suchy. Do you sit in parks? I do sit in park I do too. I love the park. I you actually sit in parks more than I do Seriously love the like parks. Yeah, or everything. Yeah. Yeah No, I do love that song and the whole the revisionist the trilogy of the revisionist the architect and the prophecy Incredible takes that you to church in Kaya And then I think that was pretty much all the news from her trip down on that down on that To more than pose it like some paparazzi pictures of her just like looking gorgeous Oh, and also I saw a rumor allegedly that chase achieved on her So like it was giving Something it was giving something and you don't post turned Instagram stories like that That's another example like this was a three-year relationship Right, and you're posting on Instagram like pandering to the fans being like sorry guys I really believed like you're in your 30s. Not only that like it. Why is nothing private? It's really pissing me off crazy. Okay. Now some more down under down To talk about Keith Urban who is reportedly sparking dating rumors with the one and only Jennifer Lopez. I can't Okay Starting to wonder if the longtime pals have now crossed into new territory Jennifer Lopez allegedly reached out to the country singer shortly after news broke from his split of his split from Nicole Kidman The source said Jailor reached out to Keith as soon as she found out that he and Nicole had split up and she wanted to Offer her support and check in both artists know what it's like to go through public breakup Jennifer Lopez Finalized her divorce from Ben Affleck earlier this year yada yada Apparently they've been friends forever When their pads are Jailor and Nicole Kidman friends. I feel like I like they're like Actresses, but no, okay. No, they run in different circles got it Now here's the thing. I Just like oh my god. Yes, wait This is how this is how J. Lo and Keith Urban know each other. You're gonna tell you we watched it They were both judges on American Idol in 2010 Oh By the way, of course my favorite video to get drunk and watch is when Kelly Clarkson is 800 months pregnant peace my peace goes back to American Idol is like a homecoming performance right before she gives birth and sings her iconic song Piece by piece about the father who left her but it didn't matter because she had an amazing husband at the time rip who's passed away um and They cut to J. Lo and they cut to Nicole Kidman because excuse me Keith Urban because Kelly's crying She can't get through the song Kelly sing the song a hundred times, which is pregnant. It's hitting a little bit different They're both sobbing. It is my fucking favorite video. I talk about all the time. That's how they know each other got it Okay I mean I don't I like do don't see it at all like I don't know what they even talk about but like It maybe if there was a friendship there and you know With friendship turns into love now. I'm trying to think I do feel like When I think of like J Lo I think like one of the big great loves of her life is like Mark Anthony, right and honestly Keith Urban is the gringo version of Mark Anthony like very like small Extremely musically talented and wait J Lo is the Latina version of Nicole Kidman tall actress with a lot of hair. Yeah. Yeah, it's all I tell you I kind of feel like I know people like this is so random. I kind of see it Okay, right like I don't know but like if I I that's a good hypothesis Mm-hmm a good Analyzation I watch it take it under advisement. Okay Follow up by EOD. Yeah, I'll say go back. I watch a diddy documentary. Oh, how was You know, I was talking about Olivia about it because Olivia loved it. Yeah I felt like it actually was not compelling at all And I feel like the media has made me think that like this whole diddy thing is like a mini or like similar version to Epstein Right, we're gonna get a list of who was at the freak offs and It's like not really like that did he is a horrible person. He's a violent person He has cannot stop beating women like that's just like his favorite thing to do He has gang affiliations He was definitely involved in the murders of Tupac and Biggie like all of these things But that's not what I thought the documentary was set to discuss right I thought it was gonna be discussing his trial and his Cassie and the freak offs The freak offs were mentioned like once and that like what I thought it was like a thing where it was what was it once a month There was a freak off at his house. No, he would just like all bad still Yeah, like he like worked with people and with like drug people and like all the people they had in the documentary They had really good people in the documentary people who worked with him But then they went into the trial where he was literally not found guilty He was found guilty on the lesser charges, which is why he's spending the next 50 months in jail But he's already served. He'll be out soon Um, but like the big charges like he was actually acquitted of right and the documentary did not explain why right? I don't know. I'm either the only one who thought the documentary was actually not good in cementing Diddy as like this Epstein type right now. I cannot stress enough bad bad bad evil man Yeah, really like horrible. Yeah, and just like when Biggie died And you know, it's contested whether he was responsible. They threw this huge funeral Okay, did he you threw it invited everyone in the music industry huge huge huge He put the cost of the funeral on Biggie like posthumously like made him pay for it like his estate and then Did he was really famous for many years not as a singer or a rapper but as like a Almost like kind of like a scooter brawn not a manager, but like a producer. Yeah, but he was like known as more creative For El Williams. Yes. Yes, perfect example so he wasn't like he was featured on songs, but he was more so like cultivating the vibe of hip-hop and army and His big breakout moment is when Biggie dies at I think the VMAs they did like a Memoriam and did he performs and it was like this huge one after that. He's like the biggest star in the world Hmm and so he's a bad evil man Morally corrupt right person and they explain why he's morally corrupt. He grew up really crazy like all this stuff But I don't know I didn't find the documentary like made me hate him more than I already did right and I know a lot I don't know. I just wasn't but also to say J. Lo Dated Diddy for many years years. Yes, that's scary I know she's so crazy that J. Lo that's crazy And then there's certain people who like you don't realize their age because what I think of like Chupac and Biggie like to me That was a hundred years ago. It was it wasn't when was it? We were in a life. He did he was like 20 30 at the time like it's nobody's like 50 now I know but it's hard to for me to like imagine there are people alive now who were alive then Do you know what I mean? Right like to me it feels like it's completely different era and it's not right, you know, that's fair So also to say J. Lo was in the documentary very very briefly. Oh, did she speak or like her time? She was featured. Yeah So I should have watched it. I Don't know. It's like number one on Netflix. I haven't heard everything's number one on Netflix. Oh my god. Does that like mean nothing? It means nothing It means nothing started watching the show nurse Jackie. Are you familiar with it? I haven't watched it But I've seen like that you will love it really it's you love it. You you love it Oh, okay. Is it funny or is it like a medical show both love both also like house love the Mindy project got it It's really good Also what we could add as a fifth story is the Netflix paramount Acquisition. Oh, we talked about it on Friday. Oh, we know not paramount. You mean sorry brothers Yeah, whatever, but we can't talk about the potential hostile takeover. It's it's giving hostile takeover Okay, so actually yeah, because I got an email Saturday morning me to Netflix me to every email Yeah being like welcome Warner Brothers to the family So they're acting like the deal is done and I had thought it was done too until I saw this story about paramount By the way 39 minutes ago the story this story was paramount has launched a hostile takeover bid for Warner Brothers discovery Oh, so parents doing the hostile takeover not Netflix no paramount. Okay, so let me explain paramount a lot of people wanted to buy HBO because in terms of the streaming wars Whoever gets HBO it kind of like the streaming wars could be over got it like Let me explain Netflix has 300 million subscribers about who lives in the same like they're the big dogs big out There's like a couple of others. We've got HBO Max. We've got peacock. We've got discovery plus We've got paramount They're not on the same level now and in order to get to that level you need like hundreds of millions of subscribers Whereas all those other ones. I think I'd like 50 60 70 80 million subscribers Whoever acquires HBO. I think HBO is like a hundred million subscribers. You're leveling up your love you get into the Netflix Hulu tier Right and so Netflix buying HBO successfully kind of ends the streaming wars. They will de facto be the number one They'll have the Harry Potter franchises They'll have the Superman franchises the sex of this everything on HBO. It's over friends. It's all friends Diving friends finally go back to Netflix. So everybody put bids on Buying HBO buying HBO Including paramount paramount owns CBS. That's paramount plus That's I think there was CBS plus for a while, but now it's all paramount plus where their big thing is Taylor Sheridan They have a yellow stone. Yes, of course, but beyond that. They're not like a tailor And that Taylor Sheridan Taylor Sheridan No, I think you're wrong. No, it's Tyler like I love being right Taylor Being right means everything to me. Oh, you're right. I would like to thank God. I would like to thank my family Taylor Taylor fine. Sorry and what's better than when somebody corrects you in there wrong It reminds me of the time when I was in college and I had a roommate who I like it was a random Okay, a selector and we really we did not get along. We just like we're not friends friends But we weren't enemies or anything. She was very very smart. She Told like she was more than happy to share that she got like, you know Accepted into like so many Ivy leagues, but she had a full scholarship to NYU So she was like really smart. She was always like correcting me and sometimes it's helpful Like I had math homework and stuff like for the most part like she was like kind of a no at all Yeah, and I'm on the phone with my friend In the room she's in the room and like I'm on the phone So I'm talking to somebody on the phone. I know actually she was there in person. Her name was Michelle I remember so my friend Michelle we were in person talking about like where we're gonna go and she was like It's on Houston Street and my roommate was like Houston And I was like Actually Like it was the best moment of my life because she was like so smart and like and it really was not like academically smart at all Yeah, I'm so it was just kind of nice like knife her right back. Yeah, I'm sorry. How do we get here Taylor shared? Oh, so the streaming I'm out. Yeah, so if power out wants to be like a part of the big dogs They really needed HBO and same with Comcast, which is peacock. Okay. They all made offers Warner Brothers was sold to Netflix now, but his Warner Brothers just HBO. No, there's other there's a million things There's a movie studio, you know the logo Everything is WB the most valuable thing in there they have a bunch of networks a bunch of channels on cable HBO max HBO. That's the real value. I mean, that's what they're paying for So a lot of people made offers and they went with Netflix Well, we don't I was at Warner Brothers is a publicly traded company So you can't just like you have to go with the best offer for your shareholders people who like to get paid out It's illegal. Yeah, so parents said hey bitch. We're paying $30 a share. You have to take our offer Now they're initiating a hostile takeover Yeah, so Paramount has gone straight to Warner Brothers Discovery shareholders with an all-cash offer for the company that says it's more valuable than Netflix's offer on Friday Paramount was widely expected to be the front runner for Warner Brothers But Warner Brothers opted for Netflix which it said offered a more lucrative deal the proposed marriage with Netflix called Hollywood Insiders by Surprise including the Paramount CEO who still contends that his deal was the better offer The CEO David Ellison told CNBC we're sitting on Wall Street where cash is king We are offering shareholders 17.6 billion dollars more cash than the deal that they currently have signed up for with Netflix 17 billion more and we believe when they see what is currently on our offer then that's what they'll vote for So when you're a publicly traded company, you can't just sell everybody's got a vote So then who said yes to the Netflix deal? I know it's giving like you know, I'm sure that yeah, the whole thing It's a better in law so weird So Paramount offered $30 per share in an all-cash deal for the entire company while Netflix offered 2775 For Warner Brothers in HBO which is 2325 per share in cash and 450 in stock on it Paramount is all Cash cash. They're desperate They like in order to really be a part of the streaming wars if they don't get this like they're done I mean, let's talk about all cash Let's talk about all cash because like are we talking about truckloads of money like I don't know Like what does all cash mean? I think it's like a big like a wire transfer. Oh, so it's not cash It's not like you're getting like oh, oh, yeah, no when you say like I'm buying a house all cash That means I'm you're not taking out a loan to pay for it. Oh, it's not like two cases. Oh my god I'm cracking up. No saty. Oh all cash means like I have the money in my bank account. I don't need to trucks it's up bringing no It just means like I Because you know rich people like buy stuff but rich people are not liquid Right, I am worth a hundred billion that means I have a hundred billion in real estate in companies I don't have 100 billion dollar bills got it. So cash means more like dollar bills Hmm, like I have it in my bank account I don't need to liquefy and you know, I don't need to sell my company to pay for it I haven't but like okay, so then you're just saying that like Paramount like needs is so bad like blah blah blah like How do they have on the 20? There's still like a better way like I'm not like we can't feel bad for these people like no No, I don't know. They're huge companies Paramount owns MTV right they own everything Yeah, yeah Got it So thank you for that education. Yeah, I actually been following the story because you know the streaming war has been a lot to me Yeah, I've been following the story all week and long and I was shook to get that email from Netflix They're like pretending like yeah girl, we got it. Yeah, maybe don't that's crazy to send an email like that I'm reading for the underdog. I'm reading for Paramount. 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Yes, this one on their podcast She looked great we like never get to see her outfits anymore except in like blurry pictures, right? She's behind plexiglass. She does not do like the media walks. So there's no paparazzi pictures and she's lost Oh, did they she brought Selena for the first time? Oh interesting and Lena Dunham And I think there was a question as to whether her and Lena were still friends was there. Yeah, and I guess they are Interesting. Okay. Yeah, she did think about her wedding Which part? The with the story which I don't think is even true by the way which the ocean house. Yeah that she did a girl Yeah, yeah, and it turns out it's not true. Yeah, they're like this story It's so stupid this story of Taylor calling up the hotel and buying up the other girls wedding Took the internet by storm like months ago now people in the media are talking about it. It's true. It's not true I actually don't care. I actually could see it being true. I just want to say yeah Also, Lizwood's posting she was like, yeah everyone and their mother got a DM about this month ago Yeah, I got a DM about it. I screen chat I sent to my group of friends. I'm like look what I got. Yeah, literally everyone's like same and Liz was like I got it too. Yeah, every person who may either made up this story or the real girl in fact Has the biggest mouth on the planet the worst friends. Honestly, I relate like if that happened to me Yeah, when I tell you when she have to sign an NDA is that part of the cash all cash or she didn't or she didn't Well cash. Yes. Yes. Oh cash Yeah, no like what do you think about Lena Dunham? She's not for me. Yeah, maybe there She's never been for me like I've never watched girls like I'm not Alina. You've never watched girls No, so I feel like here's the thing I hate Lena Dunham for one reason and one reason only that article she wrote which one when she was eating Jack Antonoff Who is a Jewish? I believe she did Jack Antonoff Jack Antonoff is Jewish She wrote an article because she's like a writer first and foremost She wrote girls and she's an actress too, but like she's known for her wit in writing She wrote books and she wrote an article that was like Yeah, let me just find it exactly. Okay, because I don't want a paraphrase. Okay, Nina Dunham dog dog Jewish boyfriend, oh, I'm scared. Yeah Dog or Jewish boyfriend. Oh a quiz. Oh, what? Yeah, just basically saying her Jewish boyfriend acts a lot like a dog It was so problematic and she didn't get canceled or everything she's been Yeah, why couldn't it be dog or boyfriend? Why does it have to be dog or Jewish boyfriend? Correct. Um, so to me like I've never fucked with her ever since then now as a critical thinker I do feel and Jackie's gonna think this is the craziest thing if I could just take that out of the equation for one second Right, I think the things people hate her for and why she's universally disliked. I do the university No, no, I think it's a little bit blown out of proportion just because she's like a fat woman Honestly, I think if she did have the shit that she did and she was not fat like she people wouldn't hate her as much Having said that I hate her and it has nothing to do with her being fat just an antisemite totally to be clear I mean clear and and it pains me that like my in my opinion It may be not my favorite, but I think one of the best Taylor Swift songs lyrically is written about her which one I'm gonna blow you around. I'm really gonna upset you Okay You two are dancing in a snow globe round and round. Wait what? He keeps a picture of you in his office downtown You understand now why they lost their minds and fought the wars and why I've spent my whole life Trying to put it into words. You're kidding. You can hear it in the silence You can feel it on the way home You can see it with the lights out lights out lights out lights out you're in love True love Wow, I'm devastated. Yeah, she wrote that about Jack and Lena. She was just like I'm sorry There's just no way they had a love that inspired a song like that. They did there's no way and Jack Antonov's like dating history is so crazy It goes so deep with in Taylor Swift's lore, right? And that's part of the reason why she's not friends with Lord anymore, right because Lena, right? Um and then Margaret Qualey like it's so Taylor Coded. It's insane It's so insane and like I know is all well with Jack Antonov and Taylor at the moment I don't know. I think yes. Yeah, he must love that like the life of a showgirl Was not critically acclaimed and in terms of her recent success like it's not a flop by any means But in hindsight we can see that it doesn't really rank up in terms of her greatest albums and especially those released in the last Same I have no issues with it, but I'm talking about like just in terms of critical acclaim, right, right? He must love that. Did you talk about your Spotify wrapped on here yet? I did you want to talk about yours? Yes, you know, I'm like Serena Carpenter's number one fan like this. She was my number one. She's incredible mine was Honestly, like oh you're such a bitch. Yeah when you were like This is data like that helps. Hargo posted on her story like her Spotify wrapped It was like oh my god so accurate and it's like yes, it is accurate. It is your data No, but also I think a lot of the time like it's not What am I doing? Okay, my number one song We're just so true was 15 minutes by Sabrina Carpenter that song is such a pussy popper Oh, that was like a deluxe song like it's not even like a single or anything When my time's a bay like so good my number like can you see my phone? So scary My second number one song Marga was I dare you by rascal pots and the Jonas brothers I know my number one. It's such a good song Number three word for the wind by Ella Langley love I'm the problem Morgan Wallin. Mm-hmm wrong ones Tim McGraw and that's only because and post Malone Oh, that's only because it's the first song on f1 trillion and there are so many times I sat down and just listened to f1 trillion post Malone's album and the first song on it It's not the song I listen to the most by any means. Yeah, it's a first one Yeah Mine was I say by the same with I'm the problem for Morgan. Well, I just started the album and Maybe I didn't finish it every time so all the songs weren't played equally. Yeah My top songs was I dare you obviously why John Balli and Luke Holmes? I can't believe you don't like that song more than like it's like You wouldn't fucking love that song. Okay. Okay Had it Morgan Wallin such an old one, but really just like we've all been there. Yeah, man. I need yeah big sky Parker McCollum Of course Looks like Parker McCollum. I do. Thank you. He's so handsome. Yeah, you both have like like chiseled faces Oh my god, do you think my face is chiseled kind of and then my top artists were Morgan Luke Taylor Mumford and sons Rascal Yeah, Taylor was in my top artists, but no song in particular was in it never is yeah, they say she's a wide-breast Yeah Did I do the fast five? Oh, yeah Taylor took Lena and Selena. Yeah, she's better friends, but I do like I admire her Loyalty that's a great quality to have and Selena and Lena have both been in her life for like 20 years Right, so that's good But like if I was Taylor I can be friends with anyone like you would not catch me hanging out with either of those two in like insufferable women Yeah What else that she Not much really what lip lip art product are you rocking? Oh Danielle Caroline got it for me for Secret Santa the Dior lip butter Dior Dior Dior and has like a little chain. That is so cute What does young Caroline say about her time on the toast she loved it yeah loves you She was so well received. Oh, let's gossip really quickly about all the people we've had so far Okay, I mean let me tell you I've got so many good people this week. Oh, do you um no I feel like you've crushed I mean, you know, who's just like really just the best smells good. I like this. Joey Masta. I'll be back tomorrow guys Don't worry Because I wanted him to have like a final a finals end off. Yeah, of course. Yeah, um Okay, cool. And like what are the young people talking about? What are the young people well, I'm you're younger than me so true I'm trying to think about that. Yeah, I'm trying to think Like who are like the major I'm just the only person I'm thinking I was like Bethany Frankel. Hello. Oh my god Did you see everybody's up in arms? It's so funny. She really is so polarizing everything She does was like heavily criticized. She just got featured in architectural digest. I knew house in Florida and people were like Shook over it says giving way for it's giving home goods. She actually made a video. I'm responding to it. Yeah No, I did see that who else helped me who else what was on the show. Oh, um That's been such a long eternity leave Right Dorothy Dorothy love love Justin Sylvester love. Oh my god going viral wait. Yes. Also. Yeah What was the video where there was a video that you posted one of your plans about him telling a story about him when he Would Hollywood yeah interviewing with his a let's actress. He told me who it was. Oh, I need to know Oh Okay, it's not like your favorite. Yeah No, also like I have to say like I think I'm sleeping on Justin Sylvester Big time big time like I was watching I was like wow. He's so funny. He's so quick. He's so weak great storyteller Yeah, and I was just like oh shit. Well, you know, he's like really up for the job of Jenna and Hoda, you know Hoda left. Oh, yeah They've been doing like almost a year now of Jenna and friends where they're like and he's done it a bunch of times And Hoda has said like his choice is Justin. I don't know why the network like won't give it to him In an official capacity and now like so much time has passed. I don't even care I was for a couple months. I was like, oh, I wonder who's gonna get the job right and I was like a little bit more than and they just have people come and co-host for fun. Yeah, and Like give it to Justin Sylvester, right? So that's kind of the theme. I feel like I'm always putting people on who I feel need to be Yeah, like their voices lifted up same with Joey like yeah, Joey needs to be more famous. No, he needs So it's coming. It's just a matter of like what it is. It's gonna be a perfect storm. Yeah But yeah, but thanks for having me on so much Like such a joy like I feel like we've been like so close Stop that's so sad. I'm sick No, I do I think it's been really good for our sister a thousand percent that she and what is the impact been on your end? I have you see increased engagement. Oh, I've seen increased engagement My following has gone up. Oh, yes, and but I also don't know I that's definitely a testament to the toast But also I feel like it's been the toast in addition to like a lot of the things I've been doing see my awards Oh, like you know what I mean? Like I feel like it's just been a lot. It's been a good moment for me on socials Keep engaging keep clicking keep like yeah, please please please like I'm still here And I feel like also I feel like people are like finally finally realizing that I'm funny. Oh, I thought you were gonna say I Feel like people are finally finally like thinking Magnolia skewed. Oh, no, we haven't run our buns. Thank God So, yeah, I feel like that's been that's been a huge moment for me. That's good because I am funny Nobody said you were you didn't agree. Well, you just kind of get stuck in sort of like what Ben gets stuck in where it's like Yeah, technically you're funny But you're funny or I get it and I kind of suck all the air out of the room And I feel like Ben's finally getting his flowers now because I like I feel like definitely do agree like since having a baby Like I've really chilled out like I'm so low-key and like famous And so Ben sort of definitely taking on like the star role in our relationship because it really can only be one star at a time Yes, so true, you know Ben told me a celebrity crush last night Ben has like this thing where he won't say a celebrity crush He feels like it's insulting to me and I'm like just tell me right and one time a million years ago And he also doesn't know like a lot of celebrities So I think like he said once off the cuff that he thought Emmy Rossum was pretty and I never let him live it down I'm gonna look like you love Emmy Ross. Oh, yeah, you're insane And so last night I forget how it came up and I'm like just tell me like who do you think is cute, right? He's like you you I'm like, oh, please don't be so lame. Yeah, and then he told me you know what actually thought it was a good one Barbara Palvin. Oh, she's gorgeous. I said, okay, man of taste And I'm like and he also said also like how does he know Margot? He said Barbara Plagin And he was like sweet life. Oh, okay, and then I knew who he was talking about Yeah, I thought that was a good one. That is your celebrity crush We've talked about this but now I have to change it because she followed me on Instagram and like I love her And so I would never my teller has always been right. Oh, yeah, yeah, no, it's a good one Even though I think she's like a custom to yeah, I would ever like, you know, do anything about it Like I also like Kelly teller like he would never do it. No, but also Kelly tellers my celebrity. Yeah, of course Of course, so like just I so if you're changing it, who are you changing it to? Who someone that I'm like, oh my god right now because I've had like really weird celebrity crushes in my life Like do you think like role model is cute? Um, did you see Emma Chamberlain made a Sally video? Yes, I did Okay, am I young or am I young? No obsessed. Um, here's the thing I think he's like a cutie but like not for me. He's like a little too skinny for me Yeah, I wouldn't say he's my type either, right? But I'm trying to think of like who like the hot hotties are these days like obviously a glampow Honestly, it's always gonna be Scotty Eastwood for me Scotty Eastwood is a good one. Like it's just always gonna be him It's always gonna be you such. Oh, thank you so much for spending your mornings with us I know you're super busy and the Tristers really appreciated it You were a beloved co-host I cannot wait for the end of year where I do all the data and I see whose episode got the most Oh, please let me know you're always a contender people love you. So thank you. Thank you so much for being here Thank you for having me. Thank you guys so much for listening to the trust and learning morning show We deliver the fast side stories a needs everybody Friday and YouTube so you're watching us on YouTube Please don't forget to subscribe me with a thumbs up also available as podcast and our podcast we found so it's about a fight It's a picture of a video I already cast box all the places by me listen podcast Find us a toast leave a five star view about a beautiful setting and wickedly talented. We are we will see you tomorrow. Love ya. Bye