EP: 403 UFOs, Influence Ops, and the End of the Age with Jamie Walden

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Not available in all states or situations. and that's why you have the Romanesque iconography with the Egyptological iconography on the back of every dollar bill because that's the marrying of the two occultic mystery school adept religions that our founding fathers were immersed in and it's all about this rising of Apollo rising of Osiris rising of Horus uh to come and back and rule and reign and this is the golden age talk I'm really big on like what this administration says with regards of the Golden Age, because it only comes from one source, the Cumaean Sybil. One source it comes from, the Cumaean Sybil prophecies, which were the cult of Apollo. And this is why all this is so relevant, even at the Scottish Rite Freemason Temple, at every inauguration, they hold that rising of Osiris, which is Apollo, which is Nimrod. Right? And so this Nimrodian hubris, this Nimrodian arrogance that they can become like God is never going to cease until they get the masses to kind of like, you know, the original insurgent swear on oath to do this thing we're going to do this thing all together collectively as humanity to become like god you don't need to submit to him surrender to him worship him or be covered in the blood of his son or come underneath his son jesus christ you can be like god the history of our earth is so different from what we can imagine joy to China the Smithsonian that if they found out about a large skeleton somewhere was to go get it I'm going to assume at least one person is right because if one person's right it busts the paradigm it all goes back to the fallen church and the problem with the modern day church they have a very truncated view of the supernatural this backdrop that's just pregnant with all kinds of meaning associated with this Mount Hermon event And this guy defects from the kingdom. That's a big deal. Welcome back to Blurry Creatures. We're excited today. Veteran, author, Jamie Walden in the house and highly connected to the UFO. Disclosure and all the things going on in the government. and you're here to help us unpack the stuff. Obviously, a Christian and, you know, like a lot of us in this space, our heart is to help prepare our friends, family, the church, everyone, for like kind of some of the secretive stuff that's been going on behind the scenes for decades. And it's a very hot topic. People obviously get really emotionally charged when you try to talk about these things. And, you know, I was watching a doc by Heiser last night. Can the Bible support the existence of extraterrestrials? So we're students. We're still learning ourselves. We're not. Nobody has arrived and nobody knows the details. But welcome to the podcast. Welcome to Blurry Creatures. We're excited to get into this because it's hot on the press of what's coming down the pipe and a lot of people arguing over what the deception might be about these things. So tell us a little about yourself and then what are your thoughts on Bigfoot and then we can get into all the docs. Yeah, for sure. No, I mean, you're right, dude. I mean, the lead-in is like it is a hot topic, to say the least. I mean, and it's intentionally so. And I know we'll break into that and cover a lot of different things. But, yeah, for your guys' listeners, you know, my name is Jamie Walden. I have a background in Marine Corps infantry. Was on the push-up to Iraq to SAC Baghdad in 03 and stuff like that. Then I did the college thing, whatever. Such a waste of time. But I got a degree in history and whatever, sumo kumate, cool guy stuff. And then I ended up doing a short stint, interning with the U.S. Marshals of Federal Law Enforcement. Then City Cop, hated them both. All I wanted to do was, like, counter-terror stuff. So I actually went back to school, got my paramedic, started doing tactical EMS, and then got on a fire department where I could be a firefighter, paramedic, tech rescue, and do tactical EMS. So that was kind of like my stint there for a while doing that. And then kind of liquidated our reality by the Lord's leading. and my family and I were missionaries in the Dominican Republic for a couple years. So we lived down there for several years working in that stint. Came back from the D.R., got burned to write a book. You just suffered on the beaches down there? Yeah. Smoking really good cigars? I mean, just do the Lord's work. I got into cigars. I was, like, super clean when I came to the Lord. Welcome, baby. Welcome. Come back from the mission field with a habit, dude. But, yeah, so, yeah, I came back from there. I got burned to write a book because of being aware and read in from the different things that I had been doing about truly the lateness of the hour, you know. And so, like, as I'm hearing all these different things, you know, it doesn't matter if it's, like, from Tom Horn or Steve Quayle or, like, all the great researchers out there, L.A. Marzulli, all the guys of our time, and Dr. Michael Lake and Heiser and all these guys. As they're laying out all this stuff, I'm consuming incessantly a stupid neo-gnostic, which now I attack neo-gnostics all the time. When it's all new, you're just like... Break that down for people. Neo-gnostic. Yeah, break that down. A neo-gnostic is kind of really, it's a mar against our ilk, we'll say, the Christian truther movement, where they've made it all about surrounding themselves with great teachers, telling them what their itching ears want to hear, but they're never able to come to an understanding of the truth. because the truth is the person and the deity of Jesus Christ. So they've made it about Gnosticism. They've made it about knowledge consumption. Actually, they've made it about hubris and pride, like lording over one another, beating each other over the head with pet preferences of opinions and interpretations. To me, that's 2 Timothy 3. They'll be lovers of self, proud, abusive, arrogant, treacherous, rash, full of conceit, not lovers of good, right? having a form of godliness because it's all christiany content but denying the power so because they're not they're not letting the information do what it's supposed to do which should be driving you into an identity in christ alone right because as you break open this stuff it's like a it's like a oh crap dude like talk about the matrix like i don't want to be red pilled i don't want to be blue pilled i want to be white pilled by the gospel of jesus christ yeah So that's my thing. Like, even in the UFO, UAP, NIH space or the emerging tech stuff, you know, or whatever, the technocratic revolution that's occurring right now. Yeah. Even all the transhumanism, you know, genetic manipulation stuff. It's like, if it's not driving you to an identity in Christ, dude, like, what's the point? You're a neo-gnostic. And I'm telling you, you can have all the knowledge of antediluvian and pre-deluvian. And all of a sudden, just going from podcast to podcast and YouTube to YouTube, and these people are consumers, and notice that they only surround themselves with what they want to learn. It's an echo chamber. Yeah, it's an echo chamber. Well, yeah. It also feels like that's actually a sliver of the big symptom in Christendom, right, is that denominationally we have all of these denominations that pick this small hill to die on and then fight the rest of the denominations about something that's probably the best tertiary. Yeah. You know, with the gospel being a primary. But it's just, it feels like this is the way the enemy operates. It feels like the comment section. Yeah. And it is. And again, I mean, dude, you know, I'm obviously in the interweb space. Yeah. You know, and it's like, it's nasty, dude. And it's like, you have your, you kind of, when you're in this space, you get your finger on the pulse of the lateness of the hour. And here's what I always say with regards to the lateness of the hour. The second coming of Jesus is, it's not the objective and the empirical stuff that gives me an indicator how late it is. earthquakes and volcanism and wars and rumors of war. It's kind of that objective, like hard data. It's the more subjective, which is the spirit of the age. And actually, if you pay attention, that's what the scripture spoke about more than anything else. Not the enigmatic stuff. It was like the posture of the professing Christians. They're going to be this. They're going to look like this. They're going to say this. They're going to do that. The way of truth will come into disrepute. They won't tolerate sound doctrine. They're going to devote themselves to teachings of demons, they're going to have a devotion to it. Like they will not tolerate sound doctrine, but they'll tolerate every woo doctrine out there. And, you know, this posture and the singular posture, like you said, the echo chamber is the lay of the sea in church, right? Yeah. Everybody's saying I'm wealthy in need of nothing, but they've never asked God, how do you see me? And the Lord's like, dude, you're wretched, pitiful, poor, blind and naked. And you're freaking hot vomit. it's more of a spiritual a spirit thing because I think maybe if you look at the ancient times Paul's writing these letters because there's like some mass ignorance people just don't know and he's like hey we don't just wrestle with human on human stuff but there's principalities, powers, rulers, darkness spiritual witness and high places that's subcategories of all these different types of things and a lot of times we're just trying to point out like there's subcategories we don't know what's in those subcategories If you don't know where they are, high places sounds like UFO activity. I don't know. Right. Or the activity of the gods. I don't know. It just seems to be that there is a spirit attached to some of these rabbit holes. Because if you touch that idol, boy, oh, boy, they're furious. And it's often connected to how we read scripture. And they kind of circle their wagons and attack anybody who doesn't read it the way they do. And it's funny. I always say that. I pastor a small church now as well, too, and I talk about that consistently. The faulty self-actualization is the way I coin it, is the centrality of the spirit of the age. And I always go, dude, it's the spirit of the age, not the spirit of those guys over there. Because everybody's going, oh, it's NAR. Well, obviously. Like, oh, it's Joel's feet. Yeah, obviously. Southern Baptist Convention, the Gospel Coalition, the counterfeit charismatic movement, or the neo-gnostics or the reformers or whatever. And everybody's pointing at one another. This is what I liken to. I'm like, I feel like freaking Napoleon Dynamite, dude, like playing tetherball by myself. Like, yes, yes. And it's like everybody's hitting the tetherball, right? And they're like, no, we're right. No, our doctor, no, our... And they're all battling this tetherball, and I want to hulk out like Napoleon and get that ball wrapped around the center because the center is Christ Jesus. Yeah. 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If it's not Christ-centric, if it's not Christ-magnifying, then it doesn't matter. So that's my same thing, even operating in kind of the intel space or the UFO, UAP space or whatever, the historicity space. It's like, dude, I can bump my gums all day long about all kinds of enigmatic stuff and very lofty, wise and persuasive speech. Yeah. But, dude, if it's not filled with the power of the Holy Spirit, talk about vanity. And that's what we have right now. It's a lot of platform building, a lot of egocentric-based hypercommunication. There's even scriptures that talk about endless controversial speculations that lead people to ruin. It talks about, like, warn those who are fixated on mythos and genealogies, but do not advance God's work. Like, there's four different verses that specifically speak to that. And it's like, dude, there's, like, knowledge, good. Learning, good. You know, like, studying to show yourself a proved one who rightly devised the word of truth, good. Being a watchman or whatever the case is, you know, being, like, actively engaged in kingdom work, which means that we are tearing into all these things that are going on at part of our contemporary corporate reality. All good. All good. But if it's not leading to a magnification of Christ, it's wrong. And what happens is a lot of people in this, and we'll say our state, they magnify the powers of darkness. They magnify the global elite. They magnify the cabals, and they magnify their pet preference of interpretation. They don't magnify Christ. And that's where I start getting pissed. Like, I get indignant. Do you talk about it all day long? How much is that willful and ignorant? How much of those that they just don't know that Jesus is the king of kings, and some of it is just we know, but we're going to. Interesting. I think it's all willful and deliberate because it's biblical. It says they deliberately forget that the same God who judged the earth with a deluge is coming in and judging with fire. So it's deliberate, willful, knowing. And then it kind of gets into that 2 Thessalonians 2 and Romans 1, because they love not the truth. God gave them over to strong delusions that they might believe the lie. So it's not that they don't know the truth. They just don't love it. Romans 1, same thing. It's like knowing God, they neither glorified him nor gave him thanks. He became darkened by the heart and he gives them over. So it's like, because you want to know why? Because you can't self-exalt when you magnify Christ. That's why. You have to self-mortify. You have to mortify the flesh. You have to mortify. You have to become, unless you become like one of these child, you can have no inheritance in the kingdom of heaven. Knowledge puffs up. Yeah, you have to have humility. Yeah, it's like real humility, you know. Not false humility. And I think it's, you know, I think it's difficult. I mean, from the start of Glory Creatures, you know, we had, I think, five different worldviews in the first ten episodes. and we don't push back a lot naturally because we're just like, a lot of those guys go on to listen to the show, and I think they do kind of feel like a ministry to some of the guests who come on and like, hey, be a part of this. For sure. It's not like, I think we felt like, man, it's interesting the church doesn't interpret Genesis 6 the way that the writers interpreted it. Right. And I think that's a big part of understanding the wars in the Old Testament, and that's sort of the impetus with Sasquatch conversations to start the show, But we didn't know a lot of this stuff. So we were just on a journey with everybody else. Like, I don't know these questions. We didn't pick a lane other than Christ. That was the lane. Right. But we had known. It didn't need to be, like, from this denominational point of view. It didn't need to be Baptist or Reformed or. No, not at all. All that stuff is garbage anyway. Yeah, I agree. I mean, it does come down to being about. And we haven't aired things that are. Jesus. That are very anti-Christ. If it was, like, an interview and they were very anti-Jesus, it was like, I don't. I don't know if that fits into what we're trying to do. Even that, though, it doesn't bother me. You're of the world. I wouldn't expect you to have, you know, as we speak in spiritual words with spiritual truths, the man without the spirit can't discern it. It's foolishness to him. But the man with the spirit discerns all things and makes judgment about all things. So I'm like, dude, I wouldn't hold you accountable to that. I'm sure you guys get the nasty grams too, dude. I'm just always getting nasty grams. And it's like, I can't believe you're on so-and-so's show or you talk to so-and-so. I'm like, who do you think I want to talk to? I want to talk to the people that are drinking the Kool-Aid, dude. Heiser Wilson and Leboe conferences. He was way ahead of his time in doing that. And he was at Ace and Aliens conferences and he destroyed them. They never invited him back. He gave them the answers to the pondering questions. He destroyed them in a microwave. Let me just deconstruct all of your constructs and tell you why the truth is this. But he got a lot of boots from the church They didn't like him because he would say, it's bigger, it's more difficult, and yeah, this can fit inside of this. And so, I mean, it was interesting because his presentation, he was talking about the early church didn't have a problem with extraterrestrials existing. No. But then it kind of in the middle, it started to, you know, some of these guys started to kind of push back. And then obviously in modern time you have these Christians who are very conservative and think, well, this will help support an evolutionary theory that life evolves somewhere else. And so there seems to be this kind of – it makes conservatives kind of angry if you say that ETs could exist also inside the biblical – I don't know. Yeah, and that's why even like – and you're leading to this why it's so prescient is because they are not ready for these revelations that are going to come out. And the church is not equipping them. And so I was telling you guys off air, you know, this task force group that I've been meeting with and a part of, you know, that's doing all these different high-level briefings on different things to policymakers. So their whole thing is to merge the policymakers with the decision makers, with the military-industrial complex, with the intel community, and with the church. Reason being is because these guys are legit. they're Green Berets, they're different guys from the contracting world, a couple team guys and stuff like that, and NSA and CIA. And so they're all part of this collective that's on mission with even the UAP, NIH, and the sex trafficking connection, and giving different briefs to Congress. They're with Grush and Barber and all these different guys, and Diana Pasolka and Greer. There's all these people that are part of these task force, but these dudes are the only two believers, and they're legit. I mean, like sold out. The two guys that I recently met with actually down here last week. I was down here last week. We were emailing about that. We couldn't make it work. They're super legit, and so their whole thing is the church has got to know. The church has got to know because they don't. What specifically? about how this is all being spun because of exactly what you're saying. The aversion from the majority of churches because of that great apostasy, the secret doctrines of demons bringing the way of truth into disrepute, right? The influence campaign is already well underway. And they're like, they don't understand what we're getting ready to do, what we, as in the United States of America, the federal government, is getting ready to lose and drop on them with regards to advanced tech. and these guys, they've never even read like Tom Horne's Exo-Vaticana, right? Knowing what's going on with the Vatican, the Jesuit orders. They're not even super, super informed about the historicity of things, whether it's antediluvian or whatever. With regards to how these things come about, they're looking at it straight from a Black Project, SAPS and CAPS overview perspective. SAPS being special access programs, CAPS controlled access programs. And so this is a world that these guys operate in. And because the lead team guys are Green Berets, anybody who's not familiar with Green Berets, I mean, they're UW experts, so unconventional warfare. Right. So they operate in high-level different types of influence campaigns, deception-based operations, and foreign governments with small teams to affect change, right? They operate completely different. I'm a Marine Corps. You know, they operate different than Marines or SEALs, you know, dev group dudes, even D-Boys, because their mission set is just a little bit different. So they're looking at it from a straight empirical objective worldview as believers, knowing what they know, and they're going, dude, you've got to warn. So they actually reached out to pastors across the board because they're like, we got to hear the policymakers. These two guys in the – These two guys. We just met with Tulsi Gabbard. We just met with blah, blah, blah. uh uh congressman burleson was in on our meeting that we had last week right and obviously got the perchettes and the lunas and blah blah and so they're kind of like doing it from all these different angles as a part of this fbi task force private contracted out to this fbi task force but the pastors they said we reached out to over 200 pastors me and three other dudes showed up and they're like we're talking they went for i want big names cavalry chapel big name the guys out there. Big, big, big, everybody would know their names. Reached out to all of them like, you gotta warn the church. And they said, every single one of them ghosted them and rid them off. And you're like, these guys have CVs that are this long with their careers and what they've done. I mean, these guys are highly influential and AJ squared away and nobody would touch them with a 10 foot pole. And I'm going, dude, I know exactly what we're looking at and what we're talking about. And so, their thing, back to your point yeah see if it was like they're like the church is not ready for what's coming yeah the epstein files are part of it why aren't they ready for is it the theological baggage that they bring into this this conversation is it that they think the government lies 100% of the time they're batting a thousand do they just their denominational differences i mean 200 pastors and no responses is telling. It goes back to two things. One, a love of the world and things of the world. Super simple. Super baseline. We don't got to extrapolate that too much. But the other thing is because the influence campaign that these guys are aware of, it's done. So this influence campaign that's been underway for a long time through both governmental and esoteric means it's accomplished its purpose. How long has that been going on? 47. Okay. 100%. Since Roswell? Pre-Roswell. Pre-Roswell. Yeah. For a lot of people, the elusive creature is getting eight hours of sleep. 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So specifically, this influence campaign is to create a false narrative around this? We push that upon, is that so people just sort of are the frog in the pot boiled? So we're just like, this doesn't matter. This is all old stories. No, more than that. It's actually a different level. The level is anti-Christ, which means in place of Christ. Right. So everything is about the sowing of what we can coin as a Christ consciousness. So that's what a lot of these different thinkers, and we talked off air, a lot of Christian influencers in this space are wittingly or unwittingly, probably unwittingly, we don't know, sometimes we don't know, are actively promulgating what can only be coined as a Christ consciousness. So that as these, they call it a deceptive dialectic. Actually, it was coined by the Russians with their perestroika deception, how to infiltrate through this deceptive dialectic. It's so complete that everybody's going to receive one in place of Christ, Antichrist. But it's pseudo-Christophany. It's pseudo-Christocentric. It's pseudo-everything, which is what anti means. It's pseudo, perfectly sewn in. And so when you look at like NAR, New Apostolic Reformation, Dominion Theology, Seven Mountain Mandate Theology, blah, blah, blah, they are already prime, done deal, influence campaign for the great deception, for disclosure. Mormonism, 100%, right? They have an exoplanet-based doctrinal theology based around hyper-enigmatic, Freemasonic, mystery school-adept teachings about extraterrestrials and a Christ consciousness. Done. Catholicism to Vatican and Vatican Seminary. Again, referencing Tom Horn's work, Exo-Vaticana. Done. Influence campaigns. Done. They're talking about debating whether they can baptize extraterrestrials into the kingdom. That's something that continues to pop. But the systems are hijacked, not the people necessarily. Yes, exactly. And people often will knee-jerk, and you'll get nasty grams. You will. I believe in Jesus. I'm not saying that you don't. It's institutions. Yes, it's institutional. Compromised. And that's why. And you're saying a majority of Christian churches have been. 100%. And that's what I was going to address as the evangelicals. So now the evangelicals, again, going back to that spirit of the age, right? They say they're wealthy. Evangelicals are like, oh, they're apostate. Oh, they're apostate. Oh, they're a god. And then it's like, dude, you too, bro. You too. It's the spirit of the age. Because I think some of those churches do it in ignorance. I'm not sure if they're willful. I think they don't know they're doing it. I think a lot of times Christians just, I mean, what we bump up against every time I have a conversation is like people don't know. They don't know a lot of the Genesis 6 stuff. They don't know a lot of the gods of the nations. They don't understand the occult that was happening in ancient times. I don't know. I'm kind of in the middle of like, is it, you know, is the church just sleeping? That's the influence campaign. That's exactly what we're talking about. So that is the end state of an influence campaign. You can't tell the truth from a lie. Yeah. And so that's why, you know, even Christ referencing, you know, he said, like, I came in my father's name and you receive me not, but another one's going to come in his own name. That's who you're going to receive. You know, Matthew 24, Luke 21, Mark 13, right? And he's like, listen, for the primary evidence of the end of the age, do not be deceived. Why? But they're saying everything you're saying is deception. Exactly. Which is the power and the influence campaign, right? Like talking about it, saying it exists is the deception. That's what they're saying. That's crazy. Yeah. So if you notice, too, the qualifier that Christ gives is that many are going to be saying, I am the Messiah or the Christ. Messiah or Christ doesn't mean Jesus. Messiah or Christ is a title. It's Christ Jesus, the Christ of God Jesus. So this Christ consciousness, even this messianic consciousness, has permeated everything on the face of the earth. I mean, New Agers are an easy target. Isn't it kind of like a counterfeit Holy Spirit that goes around? Like Jesus isn't the Son of God. It's just we're all kind of in this. It's a higher frequency self-directed evolutionary process of the species. that's what it's centered on. New age. It's a very new age. It's a new age. Yeah. But the new age has infiltrated everything. I mean everything the new age. And so then when you start overlaying that with the different advanced technologies and what their capacities are with that, even AI and advanced general intelligence, AGI, and super advanced general intelligence, you can see how there is this convergent zenith with all this stuff going on right now. But one of the key components of it is going to be the reworking of the collective consciousness of humanity through the UAP UFO thing. And referencing the Pope, he said the revelations that we've been in contact with, this is a paraphrase, humanity is now at a point where they can receive the revelations that we've been in contact with extraterrestrial brothers. Notice now there's a unity throughout history. And he said it's when we're ready to release this, it's going to cause a rewriting of the Gospels. and anybody who does not accept the new rewriting of the Gospels in light of these revelations will be considered a heretic by the Catholic Church. Wow. So this is the new coming. One world religion is what we're talking about more or less, right? Right. And now think about this, dude. Okay, so now this is even related to, we'll call it MAGA Christianity, Erica Kirk Christianity, we'll call it. I mean, what's happening right now is we're actually in the process of what's called a reclamation, which is a direct affront to the Reformation. And it doesn't matter if it's a Hegseth or a Candace Owens or an Erica Kirk or a Charlie Kirk or whatever. The ecumenism interfaithism that is happening right now is actually reclaiming Protestantism and evangelicalism back under Catholic orthodoxy for the great deception It hyper intentional And it got all these little overlays. If you really pay, most people don't have the ears to hear, but if you pay attention, they're using a mystery school of depth language. They're using Kabbalistic language. They're using different Canaanitic and ancient Sumerian-based mystery, religion, occultic language embedded in there. Trump does it in every speech. If you have the ears to hear, you'll hear it in every speech. He's only ever using aspects of prophecy from the Kuma'an civils and the rise of Apollo coming back into the earth and this Apollyon fixation on Apollyon. and it's actually embedded even in the historicity of the United States of America, including our great seal, is all about this singular subject about the gods and men commingling again on the earth. And they're saying it all the time, but most people don't have the ears to hear. I wouldn't expect them to, right? You can't expect people to go deep diving all this crazy, very dense text-based stuff, but to go pay attention. this is why it's so critical that we like counterfeit or like a secret service. Most people don't know this, but secret service primarily does with financial crimes. They think they do presidential. I got about, we have a buddy in secret. Okay. Yeah. And so like they're, they're big on financial crimes and counterfeiting, you know, and monetary policy. Everyone wants some trafficking too. Yeah. Yeah. So, so what they're trained to do is you don't study all the different counterfeits out there. You'll never figure it out. but they're trying to study the real thing and they study it ad nauseum and they feel it and they hold it and blah blah and they they know that they know the touch of the ink they know the feeling of the fibers and the papers they know like they study the real thing so much that any counterfeit that comes through their hand they they identify it instantly that's what the church needs to be fixed on which is magnifying and studying the face of christ not looking for his hand but studying his face and wanting to know him for who he is because those who know their God are going to be strong and go forth and do exploits. And those who know their God, like you don't have to worry about knowing all the details, all this esotericism and occultic stuff. When you know the real deal, you'll never accept a counterfeit. 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I mean, I think that, you know, obviously, if you're still listening to this show, we've offended every single group out there. I think where we're at, I'm surprised you still listen to our podcast. I mean, I think sometimes, like, we're trying to figure out. It's complex. It's difficult. It's super complex. And, you know, you ask the harder questions. And then you kind of leave a lot of these interviews with more questions than you had answers. And you go, sometimes it feels so complex that you just, it's disheartening. to be honest. Sometimes people come on and tell their SRA story, and you're like, that's true. This is the kind of job that ages you, because you're like, this is just heavy. So how do we talk about these things as a church and say, look, okay, let's watch the extended cut version of the stuff that gets cut out by secret government programs or PSYOPs or, like you said, changing the message, or over time since the 40s, they've been trying to get the population to fall asleep to this stuff. How do we respond? How do we know? And how do we ask questions but not have our brains fall out the other side or get deceived by some of these psyops? Because we don't agree on anything right now. Yeah. Yeah, and it is, I mean, not to oversimplify it, but it really is. It actually is simple. it's like the Apostle Paul says I resolved to know nothing but Christ and him crucified and it's like so it's the same thing in my reality like I didn't even finish my pedigree because I don't care so like you can go on like this pedigree thing right it doesn't matter and again like the Apostle Paul says I consider it as lost compared to knowing Christ and like being unified with him like I want to know the power of the resurrection and I get it not everybody's able to do that and they start getting fearful or anxious or like you're saying despondent, disillusioned, discouraged, right? Yeah. Because the cerebral neurological bombardment and it does have a particular physiological response when you're bombarded with this. It's overwhelming, right? It is. People start shutting down. But it's like if I go, okay, here's a bottom line. Like this is me. Like I'm simple OG door kicker, right? Like that's just all I've ever known. It's like, it's simple to me. It's like I win, they lose. End of story. Like it's very simple to me, like very clear. War was the most peace I've ever had was being a warfighter. I thrived in a warfare environment because it simplified everything. I'm not worried about bills. I'm not worried about girlfriends at the time. I'm not worried about whatever. I'm not worried about five-year plans and projections and vision. It was like today I dominate the battle space. Violence of action will win the day. That's all I need to focus on. And so now you bring it around spiritually in Christ. It's like when he said it's finished, it's finished. When he said I have all power, I have all power. When he said I have my weapons are not carnal that have divine power to tear down, I win, they lose. Because he won, they lost. So I look at it as simply like I can actually enter into this battle space because I'm not like clawing towards some truth. I'm not like trying to sift through the muck and the mire to gain some revelation. and I'm also not haplessly and haggardly striving towards some victory. It's the total opposite. I'm fighting from a position of victory, and I'm fighting out from the truth because the truth is the person and deity of Jesus Christ. So I go, dude, I've seen hybrids. I've seen things that you shouldn't see. I've also seen mass graves, and I've seen whatever. I've operated in the counter-child sex trafficking here. I mean, I spent my life on the streets scooping up bodies and blood and guts. I've, you know, cast out demons on duty and all kind of like seeing it all under the sun, right? I've had witches coming to astral projecting to my room and I have all on. I've had my bed lifted up off the ground and slammed down. I've had a thing come out of my throne, my phone through Paloma Combi and literally stopped my heart. And, you know, I had to like call Rez Fizdar as I'm like something just came out of my technology to me. Like I've been around in 10 episodes right there. It's like, I've been around and seen enough to know, dude, I win. Because Christ already, like, Christ did the ultimate fate maneuver and tactical decapitation. He took the fight to the enemy HQ, went to Sheol, was like, what's up now, bro? And then he freaking throat punched Satan, that counterfeit lion in his lying mouth, took back the keys of death and gave him like, now watch my power. Took back his own life, reoccupied the right hand of the father. And he's like, so where are you at, death? Like, for real, it's like, where are you at, bro? Where's your sting? And now I'm in him, so I go, yeah, dude, this is all real. Spiritual wickedness, the power, the deep underbelly, the Epstein file crap, then the esoteric occult, and the power. It's powerful. I'll never diminish. It says in Jude, we do not slander celestial beings like unreasoning animals. Dude, they're powerful. But they don't got crap on me and my God. So that's how I live. That's a worldview that's kind of coming back. There was like Sons of Seth and just trying to kind of weed out our understanding of angels, the sons of God. We don't even know what those are. So it's been a long process for the church of falling asleep. But, I mean, you have a military view of these things. Obviously, up against the hippie Jesus, that's a very different, a completely different Christ. Influence campaign. Influence campaign. So I go, dude, I mean, from Genesis 1-1 to Revelation 22, it's only war. It's all martial. Genesis 1-1, the world was tohu and bohu, right? Like, without form and void, that presupposes warfare. He stood over the Leviathan, the chaos dragon. Then Genesis 3, I'll put warfare. Then it ends in Genesis 21, the one, the rider on the horse, his name is faithful and two, rides out in justice and justice to make war. So even that aspect of warfare and our warrior king, the Lord is a warrior, the Lord is his name, has been strategically removed to get us to this point. So when I say influence campaign, like everything you're saying is exact. We are at the end state. The end state, it's done. The influence campaign is done. Look at us. So say you had like Trump calls you and says, you got 15 minutes. We're doing a press release conference. Come down to the White House. You got 15 minutes to tell the church. What would you say? Like you got 15 minutes to tell the church, we're about to disclose all this, but you talk to the Christians first. what would you tell them? I'd tell them everything. I'd just fire over to you. I'd be like, here's... But what about aliens and disclosures specifically? I think a lot of our listeners are kind of there with you. Yeah. They know since episode one we've been kind of, okay, there's a Sasquatch, there's all these different creatures, and there's angels, and there's giants, and like, okay, we're there. And there's ways to read Revelation, and it's kind of a repeating story, and all these blurry stories in the Old Testament are true. And these, you know, what would you say to the church specifically to keep them from getting seduced by this Christ consciousness? Or the narrative. This is the thing, too. We talked about this last week is that a lot of Christians, especially the influencer spaces that we talk about, will tell you that deception is the disclosure. The existence. The existence. And what we're trying to say is that's not the deception. Deception is the narrative that comes along with that to tell you what to believe and what this is and how it affects you. You just nailed it. Yeah. And that's what I was even briefed on last week is they said that the deception is not the information. It's the context with which they present the information. Context is what is the deception is the context. And the context is what's going to shape your belief. So at the end of the day, an influence campaign is about shaping what you believe. And so that's why this thing breaking out, it's literally like it is right there. Because I would say like all these projects, Project Blue Bean, Project Paperclip, all this other stuff, the Christians now, a majority of them who know about these say these are the deception, that these projects are trying to convince you that the alien stuff is real, but it's not real. Could you speak to that a little bit? Because I think that a lot of those projects were to, if someone had an encounter or had a UFO abduction or something, they showed up and tried to control the narrative. Like, no, that didn't happen. And just smooth it over. That's when you go back and you read some of these encounters, those are when the government shows up and they try to sweep it all under the rug. Oh, it's just a weather balloon. There's nothing crashed in the desert, you know? Yeah. So I think that we, like Luke just said, we think that the existence is the deception. And these government programs are going to project holograms and fake UFO invasion. And I'm like, they're already here. They're already doing their thing. And they've been taking photos of them since the turn of the century. So it's way before Hollywood. So speak to that because I think that then you'll get the hate mail and not us. I will share it. I'll see you. Just copy us both. Why not? No, they, I mean, what you're saying is not only the conclusion that I've come to, to, you know, doing deep dive in this space for 20 years now, but it's also what the guys in the know, they're saying the same exact thing. And so the deception is, okay, I'll give you an analogy. Most people aren't aware of this, but nuclear weapons aren't that big a deal. Now, don't start sending me nasty grams and say you listen to some astrophysicist or geophysicist. Or you've had it for a hundred years. Yeah, but it's like nuclear weapons aren't the weapon. The fear of nuclear weapons is the weapon. Does that make sense? Yeah, yeah. They're actually not that big a deal. Like, we can use nuclear weapons, and you wouldn't know. Like, I live outside Durango, Colorado, right? Colorado Springs and NORAD and Space Force and all that's right there. They could drop their biggest Satan, too. Of course, they have to name it Satan, right? Russian Tsar Bomba on Colorado Springs. I wouldn't know it. My life wouldn't change. Nothing would change. I would have no clue, you know, that it even happened. They're not as big a deal as people think. They actually have very limited efficacy. And there's actually some pretty cryptic evidence out there that we didn't even use nukes on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, that we used thermal and thermobaric weapons. and there's also a lot of indications historically that there isn't nuclear radiological fallout like they want you to believe and then you're going to get this nuclear winner and you're going to get a blah blah it's the fear of nuclear weapons is the weapon okay so i want to give that as analogy same thing in the uap nh nh hi space you know notice is the unknown is what freaks people out because our human psychology can't operate in the gray we need black or white And then we need a bow on it so we can compartmentalize it, store it, and move on. When something's unknown, it creates a tension psychologically. I mean, this is psychology 101. It creates a tension. So now think of even our, what are they, axioms or monikers for this space. It's all unknown. UFO, UAP, NHI. What is it? What is it? What is it? I don't know. That's the weapon. The weapon is the fear of the unknown is the weapon. What are their intents? What are they going to do? Is it Greys versus Nordics? Is it the Galactic Federation? Is it, you know, humanity's ascension into a higher level of frequency that's going to come? Or is it going to be wholesale slaughter where we've got to fight these things? Why are they standing up a golden dome? What's a planetary defense initiative? Like, why and why are there secrets about this? And why are there secrets about what's ours? What's theirs? What's adversarial? What's blue? What's red? We don't know. And so that is the true and better weapon is the unknown. So the fear of these things is actually the greater deception than the physicality of these things. So does that make you think? Does that make you think that we're, you know, as we sit here recording this, Jamie, we are pre what Trump says is going to be he's going to release the files, right, of the UAP. So do you think it's going to end up being a soft landing, kind of a nothing burger, like when we had the influencers holding up their binders at the White House with the Epstein stuff, And then it took, you know, more than a year for them to actually release everything. And then they didn't release everything. Like there's a window around 9-11, you don't get anything. It's heavily redacted, et cetera. Are we going to get something, is it going to be a mass overload of data so that you can't really sift it? Or is it just going to be a soft like, you know, aliens are here. We're speculating. But you met with, as you said, just to articulate, you met with the task force. A lot of people that we know have talked about on the show. congressmen some of the leading people that are in this space intelligence military etc and they're all talking about this disclosure presentation they're going to take to Trump is that correct? What do you make of that? What do you think we're going to get? Nothing. I think it is a big nothing burger but that doesn't mean there isn't nothing. Right. It doesn't mean that there isn't nothing, but, again, a lot of people aren't familiar with TTPs, right, tactics, technique, and procedures. So even a part like Epstein file, perfect example of what they're doing also with this disclosure, UAP, NHI, revelatory stuff, is these are all documented militaristic stratagem within the intelligence community on how you run an influence operation. I know I keep saying the same word all the time, but when you do this slow drip, what you actually create, too, is what's called readiness fatigue, like a readiness fatigue. And everybody's holding their breath, and it doesn't come, and then they hold their breath, and it doesn't come, and then it's like another promise, and then a withdrawal, and then a hand it out, and then you withdraw. And it's actually – I can't think of the word for it. there is a particular word within the intel community on this type of campaign that you run out. So that by the time you do put out anything that has any substantial truth related to it, it's highly dismissive. Yes. People are already over it because of the readiness fatigue, and it lands on deaf ears. So what I believe with, you know, this tweet about Trump, the timing's interesting. the timing with our mobilization against Iran and all fifth fleet leaving port this morning is interesting and the fact that we allowed Ukraine to attack Russia's nuclear weapons factory last night and the fact that that we're running out all these other things and the fact that the Epstein files are dumping and there are really solid sleuths out there that are deep diving into these things and breaking out name after name and connection after connection and then all of a sudden after all these years of faulty promises, you get this tweet about disclosure. I mean, it's not crafted, right? It's well crafted because these briefings to the president, uh, have been going on for a while. And then even you look at the Obama thing. So now, so, so what you have is you have a continuity of agenda and you have a unity and a continuity of agenda that's gone through all the different presidences. There's presidences. Presidents and The precedents. It's not like, you know, left, right paradigm, blah, blah, blah, RV paradigm. It's like, no, it's continuity of agenda. The continuity of agenda, which we can break to you anytime you guys want, is even the foundations of this nation, and it's a cultic mystery school adept foundation. The continuity agenda is coming into its convergent zenith. This is the endgame that didn't happen with 1947-48. It didn't happen with theosophy in the early 1900s into the 20s and the flapper revolution and all that kind of stuff going on. It didn't happen with Bush or Obama or Biden or Trump. It's a continuity. And they're just walking out there playing it. So I think that the disclosure from Trump, by the way, he didn't say he's going to release anything. He didn't say that. People are reading into all kinds of stuff. He said he's going to compile information. information. He didn't say anything about releasing anything, but I think it's going to be a whole lot of nothing, but it is a softening tactic. So there is a softening of our corporeality, our neurogenic processes with this information that he is doing. So that is being accomplished. Which isn't going to help the church at all. No. Because we know we sort of have a few little a few little like talking points in terms of understanding the paranormal, the supernatural, right? We know what demons are. I know what angels are. So we, we kind of apply that loose knowledge, blanket it all over all of this and go, this is a deception. Yep. I don't have to look at it. I know what this is. What is it? What would you tell people? What is it? If there was a true file dump based on your experience and what you've gone through people you've talked to, what do you think that the church should know? Yeah, that's a good question. And I don't like getting into the nuance of wordsmithing semantic tearing apart because it just... It's just more nuanced. It intentionally creates confusion. So as a baseline, it's 100% powers of darkness. So I don't care if you want to call them demons. I don't care if you want to call them fallen angels. I don't care if you want to say it's an influence campaign from the federal government or really Northrop Grumman. their name is on everything uh the private sector and what they're doing is on everything but it's it's powers and darkness driven period so i don't care if you have a jake barber or a greer or bloodsville or whoever or fasulka and i don't care if you have i mean i have guys from my platoon work at groom like area 51 they're private contractors they work like i know people in all these different fields and it's like the the bottom line is it's powers of darkness period So they're channeling, they're astral projecting, they're having transcendental meditation, they're doing pharmacological interventions, they're using children. The blood of the innocent is the currency of their dark economy across all things. All UAP, NIH, UFO things all tie back into global trafficking campaigns and ritualistic child sacrifice. Every single thing that's ever gotten dug into comes back to that. And again, because that's the currency and how they're breaking open to receive the advanced knowledge for the tech. This is empirical data. This is what's being collected through these different black projects and these saps and caps and then being consolidated to present to at the congressional level and the policymaker. Their findings are, which is like Jack Vallee and all these guys say this. I mean, there's so many people say this. Graham Hancock. it's all about channeling through altered states of consciousness to receive special enlightened higher frequency information and nobody is saying anything different I don't care if they're god haters I don't care if they're pseudo god lovers like this Diana Pasolka with the Vatican whatever theological researcher or like blood so intermixing Christ into by the way he was tripping balls when he had this experience Like, those are things that are all in these reports that I'm seeing that nobody else is talking about. And so it doesn't matter what somebody's preference of interpretation is. The baseline is powers of darkness driven. Call it whatever you want to call it. It is 100% a satanic, luciferian, high-level influence campaign, even with the tech and even with the information. But, Jim, we're talking like real tech. Real tech. So they have real craft. 100%. Real bodies. Yes. I'll tell you this. You know the orbs that everybody talks about? Okay. Because of national security, because of trying to keep from AI-based arms races and different, you know, advanced tech arms races, because of the Cold War, obviously right after post-World War II, and by the way, Operation Paperclip wasn't unique to the United States. Yeah, it wasn't. Russia. Everyone was grabbing them. Russia. Everybody's grabbing them. The brainwaves. of scientists. Actually, the perfect pop culture thing is Captain America. And you got the Russian super soldier, hybrid super soldier, and then you got the American competing super soldier, right? And that was real, because that's what's actually happening. But a lot of these orbs, I can't speak for all of them. I can only speak for what I've been read into is they were radio frequency tethered mesh networks that came out in 1948. They've been around forever, but they allowed it to be spun as if it was some extraterrestrial tech because they didn't want the Russians to get their hand on it. And same thing with the anti-Grovitical propulsion based stuff. I mean, you guys know, you guys are into all that stuff, whether it's the Nazi bell and then what Russia was doing on their end and what we're doing on our end. It is real nuts and bolts tech. It's not paranormal, but what's paranormal is where they're getting the tech. So a lot of people want to make it either or, which is where we get a lot of abuse within this space. It's not an either or, it's a both and. That's the distinction that has to be made. It's a both and. We've been saying this lately, and I think this is what's been impressed on me, is that people want a zero-sum game. They always do because it's way easier to compartmentalize, way easier to contextualize, but the reality is all this stuff is way more nuanced. It's just like Nate said at the beginning. Like, government doesn't lie to you 100% of the time. You can't default to they always lie. Well, they do lie a lot. Right. But not everything is a lie, right? And then, but they want a zero-sum game for this. They want it to be all completely explainable, right? And what you're saying is it's yes and, which makes that complicated and nuanced. And those things are hard for people because they want binary. It's either this or it's that. Everybody wants to be non-binary. Right. Right, that is, our mingo card is almost full, but yeah, 100%. Yeah, yeah. Check that. Yeah. You were saying too, though, so when you meet with these UAP groups and whatnot, I mean, how many, I think you told us pre-show, you said like 90% of what people are encountering and seeing as human or as ours. Yes. It's human tech. 90%. 90%. Yeah, 90% is, so they kind of classify it under four different categories, right? There's ours, adversarial, which is China and Russia in particular. I mean, even though we know the historicity of India and the Sanskrit, the Viamman and the Vita, like they've had that history, but they haven't been able to reproduce it. So when I say adversarial, it's specifically Russian, Chinese tech. So we have ours, which we call blue. Theirs are adversarial. Then we have private sector, which is where a lot of this stuff is coming from. It's private sector, and there's subcontractors. So for lack of a better word, there's been a breakaway. And this is one of the reasons for these task forces. They're trying to pull it back under oversight with the government because the private sector has gone gangbusters, and they can't control it. This is the breakaway civilization stuff. Yes. And then the last one is the unknown. Presumably, and this is coming from the task force, presumably channeled ancient tech of unknown origins. And that's the impetus of all the other 90%, though. Yeah, and exactly. They got it from that. They got it. Originally. Yep. Took it, you know, copycat, teekered, and recreated it. They were trying to channel this. This is all the stuff with Himmler. All the same things. Well, and you think about all sciences. Okay, I can't say that. That's a hypergeneralization. That's a zero-sign. The majority of sciences, if you read, and that's one thing you're taught of as a historian is read primary source information, right? Yeah. So you always read primary. You don't read what somebody wrote about it. You read what they themselves said about it. So the majority of scientific discoveries, especially with regards to the 19th and 20th century, every single one of them has publicly stated or written in their primary source information that they channeled it. All of them. I don't care if it's Nikola Tesla or I don't care if it's Descartes. I don't care if it's philosophers or science-based or tech. They're all saying the same thing. I mean, you can look at Burning Man, how all the Silicon Valley goes out there to microdose. And why are they going out there to microdose and be a part of this high-level occultic sex rites and rituals-based experience is because then they go back and they sit with their board members and their tech teams, and all of a sudden they got new coding for the next evolutionary process of AI advancements or different surveillance state tech. They're all doing the same exact thing. So, yes, 90% ours. but 100% of it only comes from one source which is the powers of darkness How do you see this playing out Jamie? A lot of what you write about, talk about is what you call polycrisis and we may get into a bigger discussion about that but eventually, as you just said before a lot of Christians will see what you just talked about there's nuts and bolts craft that are flying around that is a deception, that is not real that all of it is demons or demonic. It's all supernatural, not nuts and bolts, right? Yeah. And we had said, like, no, that's not the deception. Well, we contend that the deception is going to be the narrative around all of this as it comes down to the pipe, right? That's the deception. How do you think that's going to play out, and what do you think it's going to look like? Because I think, obviously, if we look at the Bible as our source of truth, as the ultimate source of truth, then we know that there's an endgame eventually, right? And you mentioned the Antichrist, right? So we've postulated a lot that there's There's a narrative that's been out there for a long time about ETs and about aliens. We had it overtly said to us by a guy who claimed to be a mason. Basically said that they're here. They're waiting behind the veil, behind the curtains. They're going to step in so we don't destroy ourselves. They're our saviors, right? 100% is the narrative. Here's the problem, though. You're saying some are using fear, fear of the unknown. But the fear is to unite because I know like Greer says like he talks about the fear. He's like everyone's saying they're going to attack us and it's not true. So you have kind of mixed messages going on. Some of the UFO disclosure people are saying they're good and some of them are saying they're not good. Yeah. Which is making it very confusing. That's a perfect lead in. So the way the group, I'll just call them the group that I'm a part of and that I met with, the way they describe it, they gave it an elephant analogy. right he even drew it out on a on a dry erase board and he's like okay there's there's four dudes three of them are blindfolded one of them doesn't have a blindfold and there's a huge elephant in front of him so the one without the blindfold on he takes the first guy blindfolded in front of the elephant he takes off his blindfold so all he sees is this like majestic beautiful beast and like never seen anything like it and he filled with this euphoria and this understanding of love and like his mind exploding with all the possibilities like what is this thing and he in this awe and this like this inspirational awe then the guy without the blindfold takes another one to the to the ass end and he pulls off that guy blindfold he like oh my goodness this is crappy literally like this is disgusting this is hideous this is there's nothing good in this whatsoever this is so so like what do we even make of this this is a threat This is whatever. There's nothing beautiful. Third blind guy takes him, stands on the flank, and he takes off his blindfold. He can't make heads or tails of it because all he's seeing is from one angle. So he's seeing it from the side angle. So he's not seeing the good. He's not seeing the bad. He's not sure what to make of any of it. And I go, okay. So that's what's going on with the disclosure and the UAP NIH stuff. And I go, but who's the guy without the blindfold? And he's like, us. It's the government and the private sector. He said their goal is to intentionally obfuscate from whatever angle they can possibly obfuscate. And I said, why? He goes, so that you never focus on Christ. He said the centrality of all these differing things, they knowingly do it so that you will not focus on Christ. Louis Olazano, hostile towards Christ. Greer, unbelievably hostile towards Christ. I mean, I know guys that were in his house that he talks openly about these 12 entities that are his protectors, and they physically saw them manifest. These guys on this team, Green Berets, hard-ass dudes. And they're like, we were there and we see it. And so they're like, Bloodsoe openly denies Christ, but then mixes into Christ's consciousness. He's like, Barber, he has this hyper-euphoric personal testimony. Same with Bloodsoe. Nobody can take that testimony from them. How's that for a deception? Because nobody can take my testimony from me in the name of Jesus Christ. Put a gun to my head, I'll never deny them. Because I've known it and I've felt it and I've experienced it. And they go, that's what they're doing with these guys from different angles, whether it's fear or whether it's euphoria. And they go, but here's what people don't understand is they don't know sonoluminescence. They don't know what our capabilities are with ELF waveform technologies. They don't know that we can put on people whatever we want to put on people whenever we want to put on them. They're like, our guys were on that raid that took out Maduro. And everyone's talking about the whatever it is, flabbergaster or whatever stupid thing. And they're calling it out. And he's like, he goes, dude, that's so low-level tech. It's all tech. He said, it's all tech. So we can make you feel whatever you want to feel depending on the experience. Not we as in they're doing it, but the government and the capabilities. And he said in particular the private sector, which has been a breakaway. And they're like, we can't control these guys. And a lot of the, like, the brutalist sense for Chethlunas or whatever. is they're trying to bring government oversight because it is so out of control of what their capabilities are. They're like, when you take the world's leading sociologists and neurologists and virologists and geneticists and blah, blah, blah, and then the tech world, he's like, when it says at the Tower of Babel that nothing would be impossible for them, he goes, I'm saying nothing. What we have, you can't comprehend. And craft-wise, he's like, yeah, antiviridic propulsion, like stuff that people see or they catch on video, he's like, it's ours. It's ours. And there's an intentionality to you not being allowed to understand that tech. But they're like, but then what we're able to affect neurologically on a person, you can't even understand that either. And so then, yeah, you know, people will go, oh, that's Project Bluebeam. Well, there's debate on Project Bluebeam. There's computing. Some people say it's a fabricated conspiracy. Some say it's legit. We're ever at on Project Blue Bean. But the bottom line is the deception will be so great because you won't even be able to trust your sensory organ of your eyes or your own emotion because they can literally affect it. So you will have a personal testimony. I experienced this when I was in the presence of this being. I experienced this when I was like, who could take that from you? So now as a Christian, you go, no, you're wrong. You're being lied to. You're being deceived. Now who's the outlier? Interesting. Who is standing in the progress of the evolutionary process of the species? Who needs to be killed believing that they're doing God's service for the greater good of humanity? Well, Jimmy, if there's this disinformation campaign where you're looking, as you talked about the elephant analogy, there's different sort of messages going out. obviously with we look at biblical prophecy there's going to be a unifier at some point so how do you postulate there'll be a unifier because right now they want to keep us confused when you're talking about seeing things I think it's so interesting because we talk about the movie Signs on here every once in a while and I go like I think it was terrifying until they showed the alien and for me it ruined it for me I mean the story is about a redemption story but when they I was like it's so scary until they show it and they go ah I'm like that's not that scary I think it was the best Christian movie. But I think it would have been way scarier if you don't ever see it. If you don't see it, it's way more terrifying because in your mind, we create this bogey thing. We fill the gaps. Yes, and there's something to that. As you're talking about the campaign of these intelligence campaigns and misinformation campaigns that are played out over the populace, it's like, oh, yeah, it's way more scary. If you have to fill in the gaps. Well, I know. Yes. And based on Hollywood, too. So then you have that influence coming in on you. But then, I mean, so how do you think they then unify this? Because ultimately, right, it has to come down to, you know, a one-world government, a one-world leader, and the Antichrist who then goes to war with Christ, right? This is the end. So, I mean, if we have competing or partiality of disclosure campaigns, it still is very confusing. and then you have people that say, well, it's this, it's this, just kind of like we do now. Right. That's where we get into polycrisis, which is what we're going to talk about. Because what they need to do is you have to have, it's baseline SRA, right, on a global scale. So it's a global collective conscious traumatic experience. So when you look at the initiation truly of the tribulation. With technology. With technology. Well, and tangibly. So this gets into AI. This gets into the astro-catastrophism. This also gets into World War III. And this gets into peace taken from the earth, men given over to slaughter one another, and even AI-driven pandemics and bioweapons that are being developed. Because when you look at even the first four seals, four horses that are loose, that is your global collective traumatic experience. By the end of it, we have one distinction of a quarter of the world's population dead. And I don't think it's longitudinal. It's not like World War I. It's not World War II. It's the times of life, which never has been and never will be again. I believe it's six weeks, 96 hours. It's a very narrow window that they pop, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, which is what Scripture says in Amos 5 and also Isaiah 24. It says in that day, it'll be like a man who escapes a bear only to meet a lion, who escapes a lion only to rest his hand against the wall and get bit by a snake. You know, Isaiah 24 talks about terror and pit and snare. It's like a guy who falls into a pit, climbs out, gets snatched in a snare, And it's like, it goes, when this thing marches out, call it punctuated escalation under punctuated suffering. That's where you get the ripening, the softening of the collective consciousness, which we saw with the pandemic. I think we can say that on YouTube now. It was, that was the first time in human history since the Tower of Babel that there was a collective consciousness of trauma. And look at what it accomplished. Yeah. And I said when it happened, I go, this isn't a thing, this is fabricated, this is whatever, but it's the last softening tactic before the tribulation to bring the Antichrist on the scene. I was saying that when it happened. It's the last, it didn't matter where, you could go to Malaysia or, you know, you could go to Burma or you could go to Vietnam or you could go to Central and South America and you could talk to somebody and everybody was unified because the trauma that they've all, they all had loved ones and they all had fear and they all had economic problems and they all had shutdowns and lockdowns and supply chain things, and everybody was unified by the trauma. So now when you look at this poly crisis breaking out, which it is all converging right now, and notice it's all centered on Israel and the Middle East, and then also the armies of the East, Russia and China, it's all coming in a conversion, Ezekiel 38, 39, Psalm 83, all these different things are converging in real time with the AI, with the tech, with the transhumanism, with the astro-catastrophism, of the office with planetary defense initiatives, with the consolidation of all things, with the depopulation agenda. It's like it literally is a polycrisis where everything has come together at one time, and then it's after that. So after, I believe, the limited nuclear exchange with World War III and an AI-driven bioweapon that's loosed, quarter of the world's population, 2.35 billion people dead. How do you possibly that will happen? We say AI generated or AI propagated by a weapon. Is that going to be? They just released studies about what took them 10 years in BSL-4 labs to accomplish. They can now, AI is able to accomplish within 45 minutes. That's crazy. And it's able to pull in all the data, all the different molecular structures, and then the biology, physiological aspects of it, and the transmissivity and all that. And it's cranking out. The virologists are saying they're the most horrifying amalgamations of things we've ever seen in our lives. So they're using they had to build bioviruses, weapons. They're doing the same thing with humanoids. Humanoid robot and the robotics now, too. They're saying what took eight years in DARPA to do to refine all the little hydraulics in the neural processing, you know, the silicon-based chip processing within these robotics and their movements, they are now able to do in an hour and a half. And then the robots self through AI are able to self upgrade their capabilities. So I don't know if you've seen the million humanoid robots in China. It's literally iRobot. I mean, they have airplane hangers like literally iRobot waiting. And they function and move like 100% a human does. And they said they accomplished it in a day. So now this gets into armies of the East and 200 million man army. And then why the global depopulation is because they can now. And so then you have this, anyways, I know I'm off topic. No, it's going to be the giant global collective conscious traumatic experience. Nothing is going to be forced on people. That's what they need to understand. That is not a deception. That's a compulsion. A deception is you will clamor for it. You will demand it. You will ask for it. You will cheer it. You will love it. The deception doesn't come with a jackboot on your neck and a gun to your head. That's not a deception. And in fact, people repulse that. They eventually are going to rebel. It comes in that you demand it just like they did during COVID. I'm like, look, they're demanding it. And look at what they're doing to the outliers. Same thing when the great deception breaks, what they're going to do to the outliers, and they're going to clamor because we need peace and prosperity. With peace, he's going to destroy many. with flattery, signs and wonders that serve the lie. The false prophet comes on the scene first, performing through deception, through signs and wonders, the deception to go, you can give yourself over to this guy. You can give yourself over to this new movement, the med beds, the cancellation of cancer, the genetic upgraded human 2.0 that you're going to get. So you can see how it would come on quick. And then we don't want borders. Look at what it does. You know, we don't want economic inequality. We have CBDC with blockchain tech involved. So there'll be no inequality. And we don't want Abramaic religions fighting each other, Christianity, Judaism, and Islam or whatever. Look, we're actually all saying the exact same thing. And all of our historicity and all of our doctrines all point to these guys. We're all equal. We're all the same. We all have Christ. And actually, you can all be a Christ. So then you can see how quickly it would be after trauma to have somebody come in bringing what we would perceive as supernatural, otherworldly ET solutions, extraterrestrial, beyond-earth solutions, how quick everybody would be like, dude, sign me up. And the ones who won't, they're an outlier and a stumbling block to the counterfeit millennial. It's a counterfeit millennial rate. So, okay. This is what the occultists and the sibling prophets have talked about, right? It's the coming of a philosopher king. They are waiting on, the occultists are waiting on their messiah, which is going to be this. Anuit Coeptis. It's on the back of every dollar. Anuit Coeptis and Novus Orders Seclorum on the back of the great steel, on the greatest circulated currency in the history of humanity, in the history of humanity. it's the number one greatest occultic talisman that has been propagated across the face of the earth is saying from virgil cumaean sybil prophecy about when gods and men will co-mingle and arise oh saturn and apollo arise and rule and reign like here he comes back on the scene i'm butchering the paraphrasing of what those mean but and that's why you have the uh romanesque uh iconography with the egyptological iconography on the back of every dollar bill because that's the marrying of the two occultic mystery school adept religions that our founding fathers were immersed in and it's all about this rising of apollo rising of osiris rising of horus uh to come and back and rule and reign and this is the golden age talk i'm really big on like what this administration says with regards of the Golden Age because it only comes from one source, the Cumaean Sybil. One source it comes from, the Cumaean Sybil prophecies, which were the cult of Apollo. And this is why all this is so relevant, even at the Scottish Rite Freemason Temple, at every inauguration they hold that rising of Osiris, which is Apollo, which is Nimrod, right? So this Nimrodian hubris, this Nimrodian arrogance that they can become like God is never going to cease until they get the masses to kind of like the original insurgent swear on oath to do this thing. We're going to do this thing all together collectively as humanity to become like God. You don't need to submit to him, surrender to him, worship him, or be covered in the blood of his son or come underneath his son Jesus Christ. You can be like God. And I think that is the temptation of the garden. The beginning is the end and the end is the beginning. And I don't think that Christians realize how the deception is going to be so good you're going to have to do a triple take at it to understand. I think some people think just the existence of aliens is a deception. But what you're talking about to me is like we can all debate about choose your own adventure. But when you have all these elements in the pie, it's only going to go one of three directions. And maybe this guy rules the world. You know what I'm saying? There could be some little changes to it but the technology is building ai is building to to the point where humans are going to lose lose their sovereignty at some point 100 there's no way and the only way you can is is jumping ship from that to christ king of kings and it's actual a kinetic war that's happening on earth and we're fighting against the ancient gods and who knows what exists and we can debate the semantics all day long but we're going to be tempted out of that sovereignty but the the messaging isn't going to be this is this is satan and this is hell and this is fear and you have to choose it it's going to feel like like utopia a utopian society and it's going to be great and i like what you said too it's your point like i think there's this idea i think in some circles that it'll be this authoritarian takeover like you said boot on the neck right but what's going to happen is even the end, the revelation says that without the marketing, you can't essentially participate in commerce. So there's these choosing, like, well, in order to function in the societies it looks now as it's AI driven or wherever that, however close or far that is. We're hours away. Or hours or years, it doesn't matter. There's going to be not only a shared trauma that's going to push people, but this, like, almost FOMO, like, well, you can't participate in society if you don't do this. And that's the unique thing about deception. You know, I talk about consistently is that deception doesn't happen in a vacuum. Right. And people want to think they're waiting for the big aha. They're waiting for the big, oh, crap, you know, revelatory thing. And it's not happening. That is still antithetical to the scriptures. You know, and Christ says specifically it will be like the days of no and days of a lot. Yeah. And people go, okay, Nephilim and blah, blah, blah. And it's like, yes, yes. But. It's going to look different. He actually gives you the exact qualifier why he's referencing the days of Noah and days a lot. So I don't have to speculate in what he's meaning in that. I'll read the text plainly. He says it'll be like the days of Noah, and it'll be like the days of Lot. And what he says is everything's going to be normal until it's not. He gives the qualifier why the days of Noah and days a lot. Everybody's going to be eating and drinking, giving in marriage, buying and selling. It's going to be normalcy. If you think about it right now, those who don't have ears to hear or eyes to see, everything is normal. It really is normal. If you're not in tune to this reality, if you're just a normal Joe Schmo, you go to a secret friendly, you're in the faith even. I don't care if you're secular or you're a believer. You're just doing life. You're doing your thing. You're taking the kids to soccer, man. You got a promotion coming in three years and then you're building out your actuary for your retirement, blah, blah, blah. Most people can't even find Persia on Iran. They don't have a clue who Peter Thiel is and what's Palantir. They've never even heard the language before, let alone be steeped in mystery school. occultic worldview or UAP in it. They have no context for any of this. So everything in their reality is actually totally normal until it's not. And so the deception, deception-based dialectic, it doesn't happen in a vacuum. It's all the little compromises we've made along the way with who we believe or disbelieve Christ is. That's where the deception comes. And ultimately, if you think about AI and its most rudimentary form, what does AI do? AI meets your every waking desire. That's all it does. It's super simple. Whatever your desire is, you can type it in, plug it in, speak it in, and it'll spit it back out. Actually, AI is being used to make porn at levels they've never even seen before. And they said in 85% of all AI driven porn is based on children. And it's all coming out of the United States of America. Right? Okay. So, so AI goes, well I want a thumbnail whatever I desire I can kick it in I want a whatever whatever I desire I can kick it in I want information now like microwave information so like it's satisfying my desires so I can generate this I can generate that I can generate whatever so at the end of the day it's very simple and if you think about how Lucifer himself works that's all he's ever prayed upon Eve all he had to do was pray upon her desires and she failed the test Christ he went at it with the same technique when he was in the wilderness Christ passed the test because his desire was for the glory of his father see that desire is what's going to dictate whether or not you the great deception doesn't come on you and like grab you right you've already you're already primed for it you've already made all these little compromises that's just the final instate of the fact that you love the world and the things of the world love of the father is not and you want those things. It's not going to be like this huge battle, like, do I do it? Do I not do it? Am I being deceived? And you're like, you just go all in, man, all in, both feet in, because what you're doing is you're actually only ever pursuing your personal desires. And what's the mark of the beast satisfy? Your desire for pleasure. So it sounds like a lot of Christians follow a version of Christianity that self-desires. It gives them something. It's like AI. I put this in, I get back. I pray these prayers to get something. 100%. I'm never, ever going to suffer for this. I'm never going to be in discomfort. I'm wealthy and in need of nothing. Yes. Well, and again, and I go, I don't have to speculate on that. So I always tell people, like, if I can't back it up with Scripture, I won't say it. It says they will be lovers of pleasure rather than God. It's not that they don't love God. They love pleasure more than God. It's not that they don't know the truth. They just don't love the truth. It's not, you know, they will be lovers of self. That is the highest achievement in humanity, which was what the fallen ones, the insurgents of old, came to sow into humanity, is that you should love yourself. They actually call it egotheism or autotheism or autolotry, which is apotheosis. Those are all variations. So egotheism is, wouldn't think of being egotistical, is it self-deifies. That's egotheism. Okay, now look at the Antichrist. he will exalt himself and he will set himself up and he will proclaim that he himself is God. He apotheosizes. He's ego-theistic. So are the people in the church. As a Christian church we argue over the temptations of Christ of these specific temptations but really it's just think with your ego. Think for yourself. Jesus, don't think the way don't be loyal to your father. Think like I do. yeah do whatever you want get yours it's like yeah it doesn't matter if it's stones or bread or offering this it's think for your think think of yourself yeah yeah and this and this is why religion is so dangerous dude like religion is so dangerous and i mean it's so it's so dangerous and so woeful that christ laments when i return while i find any faith in the land and then they and then the biggest lament of all scripture is the many who will say lord lord because they're like religion is like no i'm crushing it dude i'm like i go to bible study i'm in men's group i'm in women's group i know whatever i know all the things that the boring bros talk about right like so so like i'm in it i'm in a different sphere i'm on a different level of spiritual arrival and the bottom line is you're not dude you're self-deceived like faulty self-actualization because it's actually always about you so it's like a lot of the neo-gnostics why do they love knowledge and they love wordsmithing because they can lord it over you it's actually not about magnifying the Lord. It's about magnifying themselves. Why are they doctrine and theology and MDM? So I can compare myself to the next guy, just like the Pharisees were doing. Jesus said, dude, how could you ever give glory to God when you're busy giving glory to one another? It's a self-glorification fence. Think of all the words. Self-righteous, self-justify, self-esteem. It's all self-hyphen word. That's all throughout the scriptures. That will be your focus. So again, this great deception doesn't come in a vacuum. It's the fulfillment of what you've already made your decision. Your decision is for self. So COVID revealed that self-preservation is the highest form of collective narcissism and deception ever. It's about self-preservation. Okay, now fast forward to the mark of the beast. What is it? Self-preservation. Yeah. Okay. How would you define a coward? because cowards are the first ones Christ deals with in the lake of fire. I've seen cowardly men. I've seen way more valorous men than I have cowardly. I've seen a handful of cowardly men in my day. What defines a cowardly man is he's a self-preserver. He will always choose himself over the mission, over the end state, over honor, courage, and commitment, over devotion to duty, over selflessness and selfless sacrifice. A coward is self-preserving and self-exalting. That's a coward. so now you look at the mark of the beast and the first ones god deals with is like those ones they're the freaking is that like gideon's army yeah like get rid of those guys yeah and he's like he gave him an option right anybody could have could have went and watched god do what he did yeah he's like if you're double-minded if you're worried about your wife you're worried about the addition you're putting on your house you worry about your retirement right it's like just thinking of in our modern terms is like i don't need you you are privileged to partake in what I'm doing on the face of the earth, to exact my glory and to win the souls of men. It's a privilege. I don't need you. I mean, he did that with Moses. Before Moses even got started, he's like, bro, you're dead, dude. I'm going to strike you down. I'll raise up another one. I mean, Mordecai's rebuke to Esther, it wasn't, people were like, oh, for such a time as this. And I'm like, dude, read the whole context of the verse. He was not encouraging her. It was a straight up legit admonishment. He goes, I'm not worried about you, girl. Listen, if you remain silent at this time, deliverance for the Jews is going to come through somebody else, but you and your household are going to suffer for it. But how do you know you haven't come to this royal position for such a time as this? That's the full context. God doesn't need you, but he chooses you, and he privileges you to come enter in and be a co-operator with him, to be a co-operator in advancing his righteousness on the earth. Are people in the UFO space coming to Christ? Yeah, absolutely. Are they seeing this play out in front of them? Some. Few. Because I think if you drop these files on certain men, they're going to be looking at it going, this is real. This is real. This is what's going on. I'm not going to fight it anymore. I'm giving my life to Christ. It's really like who's going to come save us. I'll tell you what Alphair has from that space. I don't have permission to say that. I love that. One that you, and it's because of these two GV bros, these Green Beret bros. Yeah. Fire hosing them with the gospel. And he was a psionic, and he was dog whistling these things in. Yeah. And he was steeped in all kinds of Freemasonic stuff and occultic practices. That's why he was able to be a psionic. Yeah. Because it's always rooted in something. And he surrendered his life to Christ. I think like what you just said, I'm just like, it's so much of Christianity misses the loyalty of Christ to his Father. That's like the whole, that's where he's going, what he's doing. He's like, now my will be yours. Uncompromised. Yeah. And I think that that is what the temptation we'll all face in this futuristic world is, are you going to be loyal to the Father or not? We're all going to have to go through a moment where we say, self-preserve or stay loyal to the Father. Look at, I mean, again, I always, biblical worldview, there are going to be those who overcome all y'all that are doing whatever they're doing out there by the blood of the Lamb, their word of their testimony, and they don't love their life so much as they're afraid to lose it for his sake. So there are the overcomers. What do you say to people who kind of take like a very black and white view of like revelation has already been fulfilled, this is already over? You're so deceived, it's not even funny. That's preterist. That's amillennialism. Even all this stuff going around right now about Satan's little season and all that. Like, dude, so strategically. I'm a tacticianer, but I'm not like big level. I'm like boots on the ground tacticianer, like taking a fight to the enemy. I was a platoon sergeant in the Marine Corps infantry. And so as a tactician, it's like, I'd do the same thing to you, dude. I'm not stupid. I'm not unaware of the devil's schemes. as a tacticianer that's what I would do to you to assault you and to gain the victory over you through violence of action and different asymmetric warfare implementations it's the same thing so even all this preterism, amillennialism, dominionism sever mountain mandate that's why I always address NAR all of them are already in the deception and they don't even know it they already are and that's why I said Mormons in particular and Catholics in general Catholics as a Vatican-based doctrine, not Catholics, the individuals. I know a lot of awesome, godly Catholics. Don't want to offend anybody. I'm talking about institutions. Same thing with the evangelicalism because what they have sown into them through positive, encouraging K-love is to love the world and the things of the world. Everything is about loving. It's about an upgrade to life. Life 2.0. You come into Christ, put your head down, raise your hand if you want to receive Jesus. In these mega churches, you get an upgraded life. You can have your cake and eat it too. Nothing about suffering and being unified with Christ. Nothing about the world hating you. Nothing about the world reviling you and persecuting and saying all kinds of false things in you on account of Christ. You have no unity with Christ whatsoever in these churches because they have strategically removed that. So, again, I'm an equal opportunity offender. everybody in general within western centric churchianity evangelicalian churchianity is they are already way down the prophetic road and they can't even perceive it which is the Laodicean church they literally can't perceive it I think a lot of people listening this would feel like overwhelming how am I deceived, how am I deceived so you're a tactician so here to speak to people about how they cut through the deception and how they take the fight to the deception what a practicum aside from like the big pie in the sky like obviously like like get in the bible like get right with jesus and build a cloud bus right but i mean we're talking like i mean that's for some people that even feels like okay i know that like so what is it yeah what would you say i but you know i pushed back on that a little bit they think they know that but are they living it because it really is you know like like the you know christ praying in john 70s like sanctifying by the truth the word is truth and heaven earth will pass away but my word will never pass away like all the elements are going to be burned with fire but the word will be left remaining because the word is the person and the deity of jesus christ same thing with the truth the truth jesus is the truth right the way of the life like so when you change the exchange the truth for a lie, Romans 1, you're exchanging Christ in place of Christ for anything anti-Christ. And so it's like when you study the word, you're actually studying the face of Jesus, like Jesus is the word. So it is about a knowing of the Lord, but a lot of people know about him. That's the distinction that I think why it's easy for people to go, I feel this tension and this anxiety when Jamie talks and he fire hoses me for two hours straight. And now, what am I supposed to do am i just even i'm like no dude if you're studying the face of christ not his hand you're not looking for his hand you want him for who he is you wash his feet with your hair and tears because you've been undone by the gospel dude i know what i am yeah and what i'm up and i know what he's given me and his son what god's given me in his son jesus christ dude take my whole life but the reaction for most people is to become extreme fundamentalist yep and start pointing the finger that every single person is deceived. Which is religion. Which is what we get a lot. Yep. And again, it is prophetic fulfillment. And that's why it seems so overwhelming to you guys, to me. And you're like, I can't rationalize it. I can't reconcile it. I like but the hatred the vitriol the violence the hostility the abuse the conceit Everybody thinks their opinion matters I like bro actually your opinion doesn rate Dude your opinion doesn matter to me You haven walked a mile But everybody thinks they do. Again, this is why I said way earlier about the objective indicators of the lateness of the hour aren't what I look at. It's the subjective, the spirit of the age. And it is this weird fervor of covert narcissism. Yeah, and it's like, and they all use scripture to justify this. Which is interesting that the Bible then goes down to fruits, you know. It's like, we can all just be deceived on the surface, but what is this tree? What's coming out of the tree? Exactly. And that takes a longer time to actually figure out if somebody is who they say they are. And remember the wheat and the tares. It's like they're sown in among us, and even the angel says, an angel's like, Lord, do you want me to go rip them up? And he's like, let them grow up together. to the very end, what you're saying, then when the fruit, the heads of fruit on the grains are revealed, you'll know exactly who's who. And that's why when it says that many are going to abandon the faith, many are going to be deceived, many are going to devote themselves, it only uses the word many. It is a high, empirical, comprehensive data set. It is going, the great apostasia, which is an official revolt or defection from a religious dogma you once held to be true. The man of lawlessness, so lawlessness itself can't happen until the church is lawless first. So what you guys are experiencing, what I experience on a regular reality is high level end of the age prophetic fulfillment, which is why it's irreconcilable. You're like, dude, seriously? Who says that? Who sends that? Who writes that? Who texts that? What is wrong with you? like, where's the love? Where's humility? Where's mutual submission? Oh yeah, dude. I'm like, you're insane. Your credibility is ruined because I accidentally said I'm Mayan counter instead of Aztec. And I'm like, so out of the 20 years of ministry, you're disqualified. I am disqualified now because you figured it out, dude. You're right. I'm a false teacher. I said Mayan instead of Aztec. And it's like, what compelled you to think that you were justified in doing that but see that's the thing is they are self-justified they're not christ and this is the comment section right it's always like you look at someone who lays out a thesis in any type of medium and then you got to go maybe two comments down to be like wrong and you go on it's insane what part on what basis you know what and what qualifications on whatever or that you built you built a platform with 10 000 hours of of peace patience kindness long-suffering. I mean, nobody cares until they care. And everyone thinks you just pop up with a platform one day. You didn't do any of the hard work. You didn't make friends with people and try to help them. You're not out behind the scenes caring for people. They have come on your show, and I think that building community is being vulnerable and being real. Absolutely. And saying every single person has been paid. Every single person, like if we have a contract with somebody. There's no deception where we're using people to get a platform to take advantage of them. If this person wants to do this with us, we try to... Dude, I've been accused of all this things. It's so ridiculous. It is humility. That's a lack of humility. It is. And again, so then going back to deception and not happening in a vacuum, these people have already cast their lots with their parentage. You have your father the devil. Period. Right? Pride and subtlety. We all kind of have a spiritual takeover at times where we... At times. You know, like Peter had it. Peter had it. Get behind me. Walk out. But there's a difference between carnal failings. Dude, I'm a super carnal man, sinful man. Apart from the grace of Christ, I got nothing every day. Chief of all sinners, right? But to justify it, this is the distinction I always make, is when you self-justify it as if you're honoring God and when you self-righteous it as if you're in a righteous, spiritual superior position as you're actively being like unloving, we'll say as just a general word, proud, abusive, arrogant, treacherous, rash, whatever, conceited and competitions and selfish ambition and all the envy and all that. And like, dude, you can't justify that. I might go, I did that and I hate the very clenely and stained by sin. I don't want to be that guy. I want to be conformed to the image of Christ. I want to love well. I want to rightly magnify the Lord and I blew it, dude. I'm sorry, bro. I really want to honor the Lord. And then you go, I know, dude. And I know you have that expectation of me. So that's why we can lock shields and we can, and mercy chimes judgment, and we can walk together all the way to the end because we know, both of us know, apart from Christ, we got nothing. But the arrogant, the hubristic, the pharisaical, the religiously haughty, God hates haughty eyes. He hates those who serve up dissension in the community. They are the object of God's hate. And so all the while, as they're openly knowing that they're an object of God's hate, they go, no, I'm wealthy in need of nothing. That's the distinction I make between carnality and wickedness. Because God makes the distinction between wickedness and sin. I love sinners. Oh, he has zero tolerance policy for wickedness. Totally different posture. And I would say a lot of what we feel like UFO religions are exploding. and the reason we try to have some more distinct conversations and pick out the nuances or what are these things, what are aliens, what are UFOs, is because we care about the people that have gone way past the church because the church is asleep. And they're not answering the questions. They're not answering the questions. They're going into UFO religions. And so hate us all you want, but a ufologist knows there's something deeper than demons going on here. And it's okay to talk about that. Absolutely. And the ancient church actually had a lot of thoughts, and they sat around him with the Socratic method and debated these things. Everybody did, except for modern, Western-centric, evangelical Christians. Like, everybody did. And it is, like, I've been accused of those things, too. Actually, my own family members are like, why are you focused on those things? It's such a distraction, such a distraction. It's all a burning man. And I said, for you. But what about the person who's steeped in it? I love like witches, warlocks, new agers, occultists. Dude, those are the people like I love rubbing shoulders with because they actually know way more about God than what the Christians do. And I'm like, good vibes, bro. Like, oh, let me see your crystals. You're like, I live in Colorado. So it's like it's like it's like hyper like insane new age, everything. Right. And then obviously now they've legalized philocybin and mushrooms and psychedelics and all that. So like Colorado is this hot bed and I'm in four corners. Like literally out my office window is Mesa Verde National Park. So the Anasazi, the Canyon of the Ancients. I live at the Canyon of the Ancients is where I live. And the Mancus Valley and Sleeping Ute, which they say is a sleeping Johnny. What are the weird stuff coming out of your phone? That's all my, yeah, exactly. Like I'm staring, so this is where I live. And so everybody comes there for all the different solstices and all the whatever. And I'm like, bro, like, oh, I see your crystal. That's cool. Like, what does that do? You know, like, what's the energy in that? They're like, oh, it does X, Y, Z. And I'm like, so it's got like harmonic resonance and like different vibrations. And they're like, yeah. I'm like, I know. That's so legit. And I go, did you know what those harmonic vibrations are actually doing? And those good vibes, they do have good vibes. And they're like, what? And I'm like, they're standing in there crying out to my God. on these trees that you're worshiping they're standing and clapping my hands and like oh and this parade of planets that's coming up that you're here for like all of those like they're actually obeying my God's voice because he calls them out by name and he puts them in perfect order that's why no matter what you can always know exactly what's going on with the celestial alignments and they're like well I didn't know that I'm like did you know about portals you know about whatever you know about astro-prodiction I'm like so have you gotten into lucid dreaming yet Like, have you started dealing with astral projection? They're like, I'm not there yet, but like, I'm hoping to get there. You know, I have a ayahuasca retreat and manchus coming up. And I'm like, dude, you know that like a lot of the servants of God have experienced that. And like there's portals and stargates and astral projection. They're like, I didn't know that was in the Bible. I go, because your pastor won't tell you. Why? Because he doesn't want to look foolish. So his pride is shutting out these people from heaven because he won't deal with things. A, because he's lazy, because he's a skinny gene, effeminate, whatever, that doesn't even know the gospel. He doesn't know his God. He's seminary trained, and all he wants to do is build a platform for himself and create satellite campuses in his community so he can tell all of his other pastors in his denomination how successful he is. That's why you've never heard that before. So it's like, come here. And I invite him to church all the time. I'm like, dude, we talk about that in sermons. I'm like, we can talk about UFOs and aliens and portals and stargates and astral projection. And they're like, I didn't know the Bible talks about that. And I go, that's who I'm going for. Because the religious, the lukewarm and the religious, dude, I'll leave you to it, man. The blurriest pastor over here. Yeah, I'm like, I mean, that's where the rubber meets the road, dude. And it's weird because it's like a podcast is kind of like the opposite. Because in some ways you have to say the truth no matter what. And people might turn it off. but at church they'll definitely leave. And they do all the time. Yeah. But like with us, it's like, well, this might blow up our, you know, the listenership. But I don't think that you get to a point where you're like, you just don't care. You don't. If this is the truth, if this is how it's going down, we know these elements are here. We know this technology exists. And we know from Bigfoot stories that people can project these things, these creatures can put fear into you. So now they've. Oh, I got a story for you on that. Now they've harnessed this in technology to paralyze the planet, to make them feel whatever they want them to feel. That's crazy. And the UFO phenomena is no longer a conspiracy theory. And the biologics is no longer a conspiracy theory. Hybridization. Hybridization and genetic manipulation. It's like, that's mainstream media. Its existence is not the deception. Right. It is here. It's always been here. It's the spinning of the context, which is going to be the decision. It's who it's loyal to. Yeah. What's the story? Oh, dude. So I was telling you, it's interesting you said that because I've never heard anybody use that language about they can put fear on you. Yeah. And after my experience, that's the only thing I could describe it as. Info sound is what a lot of guys will say. So I'll give the cliff notes. I had just, my birthday's August 12th. So I didn't know this, but apparently I found out after the fact, after talking with Russ Dizdar, him and I were friends and got to co-minister together a couple times and stuff like that. So we were good buddies before the Lord drew him home. But my birthday is August 12th, which apparently is called the Marriage Supper of the Beast. It's a high occultic holiday, and I didn't know it until after the fact. And I had just done an interview with a Hollywood dude, a Hollywood insider. So he's a film production guy, came to know the Lord out and stuff in Hollywood. And so I was on there on my birthday and I'm laying out just like this, just talking, right? Just talking about the things of the Lord. And anyways, I, and it was, it was a live stream thing. So people are watching it live and I, and I get done and it was late at night. By the time I got done, it was like 1130 or 12 or whatever. And I go up to the bedroom with my wife and I'm standing there in my chone is, and I'm like, Oh, I got this text, you know? And I'm like, I'm like, I'll open this thing. And I start reading the email, because I get so many kooks, I'm sure you guys know. Oh, yeah. Oh, my goodness, dude. So I'm kind of like scoffing, right, which I shouldn't do. Are we kooks? That's the question. Yeah, I will. Definitely. But so I'm reading this email, and it's like, I'm so-and-so. I'm on the moon right now looking down at you. And I keep reading. I'm like reading this thing. And I'm like, and it says, like, I am the Christ, and I am the whatever, and blah, blah, blah. And there was photos at the end. And when I read the last word, I didn't realize, dude, I was reading an incantation. I had no clue. I'm, like, literally in my chones, like, at the foot of the bed. And I read the last word. And, dude, this thing, the only way I can describe it, my wife was there. She saw it all. God, not sensational or hyperbolic. It came out of my phone as soon as I read the last word. and it knocked me off my feet back against the wall. The phone went flying out of my hand. And all I did was like, oh, Jesus. Like, that's all that came out of me. Now you've got to remember, I'm a warfighter. I'm a street cop. I'm a street dude. I'm kind of like rough and tumble, you know, whatever. Like, not spooked by things like this. And the only way I can describe it is it was like, it was like if somebody thrust like hot irons through your brain from every angle like it was like a flash of heat and light that went through every ounce of my physiological being every cell of my body and it was this dread fear thing that i have no context for i felt my heart physically stop as it came out and i was like what did you like instantly shake and i was like fell against the wall and I and I don't speak in tongues I don't pray in tongues I thought I was going in the tongues because I had no context for what it just happened I was just like like this out of control dude out of my mind fear and I just like so Jesus and then like and so like and I'm shaking uncontrollably like out of control in this and this fear the only way I can describe and you I've never heard anybody else say that is fear got put on me it wasn't fear like oh i got spooked it wasn't like boo yeah it wasn't fear like give me your money here's a gun in your face and like you have that natural physiological dump right that adrenaline dump this was something so uniquely different yeah and so as i'm like telling my wife's going what's going on what's going on she didn't know she just started praying oh yeah she's a godly woman yeah she just starts praying and I'm like have no context for this thing and it's on me and I'm just like praying, praying, praying and I'm like trembling in fear for about three to five minutes and then all of a sudden I was like this must be my personality I was like what the F? who shall I fear? it's like the Lord reminded me I'm like you done I remember standing up and feeling like you done effed up you picked the wrong dude I know my God and I was like you showed your face I'm coming to freaking slay you in the spirit like again all I know is violence of action and like change but I'm still trembling right like whatever's happening in my body but at like about three minutes I was just like like came on glue like I'm taking the fight to you and and as I'm like start praying in the spirit like shot like I'm walking the house like dude I don't know what just happened never seen anything like that it's what the Lord showed me in real time as he said when i said i'm with you like a dread warrior warrior what do you think that means if that's what they can put on you do you understand what you're doing in the spirit because that's a way lesser fear yeah and so then i so then anyways i pray through this thing and i'm praying this out call russ disdard call russ and like this thing just happened he goes oh do i know exactly what that is i usually can't say this without crying he knew exactly what it was he gave the name i won't say because i don't want people to go research it and he knew what sect of occultism it came through satanism and he said just he said that is 100 an assassination i don't know what you were talking about and what the lord has planned for you but that was an assassination he goes I know 20 people firsthand that have died when that got sent to them because they had chinks in their armor maybe they had unconfessed sin they had hidden sins they were looking at porn they're doing whatever they weren't who they said they and it actually kills them he says specifically in Africa and pastors and missionaries in Africa he goes it's an assassination he goes and I I gotta let you know that that required blood he's like you just gotta know like wow and I just wept. It made me so mad. Some kid just lost their life for sending that to me through my phone. It made me so freaking pissed. Anyways, it rocked me so much that I was, for lack of a better word, PTSD for about three weeks. Dude, I was scared. I was scared in the daylight. I was scared with all the curtains wide open. I was scared to go sit in my room by myself and pray. I wanted to be around people. I'm a war fighter. I've never once had PTSD. Never once had any problems with all the things that we do as war fighters. Had no fear. It doesn't matter how much you can bench press in a moment like that. Yeah, it was so uniquely different. So this weird kind of like fear, anxiety, PTSD was on me for about three weeks. And finally it got to the point where I was like, which I should have done earlier, but I needed to go into a fast. I got to break this thing. so I go into a fast and I'm kind of not indignant with the Lord but confused and wrestling out with him why did that happen because I know they can't do anything unless you allow it I know they can't blah blah blah so why did that happen why was that allowed to come at me and what was this blah blah blah so when I finally go into a fast with the Lord he showed me and this is what he said and this is very relevant to what's coming next and over the face of the earth he said definitively I told you men's hearts will fail them for fear of what they see coming onto the earth now you know testify to it with authority and he showed me I'm not saying like fear like oh I'm scared like you will die like they will actually drop dead by what gets put on them and that's what he showed me he said now you know and you can testify to it with authority I allowed you to experience that It's crazy. We just did an episode on this. Oh, really? Phobotron and the fear and the monsters that will probably, some of the blurry interpretations is those things are going to be like monsters that come out on the earth and it's going to freak people out to the point they're going to drop dead. Yeah, I believe it. I mean, that's biblical. The transgenic monstrosities even coming out of the bombless pit, you know, and other things breaking out on the earth. But, yeah, so I'm like, well, that was a pretty intense object lesson, Lord. Yeah, well, I mean, could you just like write that down for me or something? Yeah, exactly, right? I did write it down. It's taken a long time to process these. And for our listeners, those listening, just thank you. Thank you for trusting us all these years. Thank you for believing that a lot of things you said is our objective and goal here. I don't think we started this podcast with any sort of inclination that people would be finding the gospel through it. I think that if that happened, that would be obviously great. But the goal in the beginning was just trying to get better answers to some complex things. But obviously that story has grown into a whole plethora of weird stuff that we kind of dabble in here and there. But it's easy to let that religious spirit take over, come up with any conclusions, don't want to see the blurrier parts of Scripture, and attack the people that are trying just to help people understand, like Bigfoot and Sasquatch is the least weird thing. Oh, yeah. there's so much more comments what I always say too I'm like it may not be you know like I kind of started talking about it earlier about even family members being like why are you fixated on this stuff and it's a distraction I go for who that's easy for you to say because you're secure in the Lord you're secure in the gospel and your family of origin was whatever and you grew up in a church or you know whatever I'm like but these other people dude especially in this late hour they don't have a chance man they don't have a hope in the world which is why they're throwing themselves at all the sexual perversions and all the identity crisis and all the whatever and then all the new age and then all the occultism and now the new AI religions and then the UFO alien religion, the Galactic Federation and the government or whatever they're throwing their identity at because they don't know who they are to God through Christ. So, yeah, it may not be relevant to you, but they're having those experiences. I mean, like I said, I talk to witches, warlocks, occultists, whatever, people that have come out of different LGBT stuff or whatever, and they're like, I didn't know, I didn't know, I didn't know. I go, that's why I talk about the things. Or they're having supernatural experiences. And the church, it says we ought to be ready to hold out an answer for the hope in which we have at all times. And we're not holding out the answers. We have the answers to everything. Stargates, portals, reverse tech, genetic manipulation, giants, Nephilim, historicity, the Sumerians, the Acadians, the Phoenicians, the Egyptians, the Romans, of the deep state Epstein files, freaking occultic undergirdings, the layout of Washington, D.C. Like, we have the answers to everything. And we have the consummate victory over everything in Christ Jesus. We should be the singularity of the go-to for all these answers, not the reprobate unbelieving world. Let's go. The church should be, dude. Let's go. And I'm like, where are you at, bro? And that's why I get, like, pissed. I have a slightly violent predisposition, right? This is my background. It's like, if they weren't tempered by the Holy Spirit, but it's like, dude, come on, man. I say, I want to tattoo gospel on my knuckles and start punching people in the face. So they'll hear it and listen to it because we have the sufficiency of everything in Christ, everything and every answer and all power to tear down every stronghold and false pretense that sets itself up against the knowledge of God. And we're not doing it. We're a bunch of freaking panty waist, skinny, jean effeminate, you know, oh, I don't want to offend. Or we're hyper religious, you know, neo-gnostic, arrogant, haughty jerks to one another. We're on either end of the spectrum again, which is why I want to Hulk out like Napoleon and freaking smash that tetherball around the centrality of Christ. Because it's like, dude, like this government is my identity. I always tell people like, well, you think I'm a constitutional republicist or whatever, dude? I'm like, I'm a monarchist. I serve a king and I belong to a kingdom. I have a citizenship that you don't know anything about. Like, yes, I want good things in our country. Yes, I want good politics and good policies. I want those good things, but, dude, this is not my home. In fact, I so know who I am in Christ. This world isn't even worthy of me. And that's not arrogance. That's confidence. I know the joy set before me. So I can endure all this junk in the world. because for the joy set before him, Christ endured the cross. You know, cowboys have skinny jeans. That's true. We can't completely lump the skinny jeans. It's a bad guy. Yeah. Maybe you just have big thighs. Yeah, that could be. You could be a cross-pick, bro. You could be a cross-pick, bro. I appreciate it, man. Thank you for coming into the basement and talking to us about all these things. It's a heavy one. And if you've listened to the whole thing, we're there with you. It's not always easy to ride the blurry wave for an hour or two. You know, it gets heavy. But your voice is reminding me of just Donnie and the Awaken with JP guy. I'm like, are you guys brothers? I've heard that so many times. It was like tripping me out. That's hilarious. They're like, you know what I mean? The redheaded dude that does all the satire stuff. Of course the redhead. Yeah. This is how it goes. The redheads are going to be the ones in the end. The ginger's always trying to stick together. The soulless ginger. 144,000 gingers are going to be remaining to fight the devil. That's it. The chosen ones, right? Well, that would be God's way to show that he can take the weakest of those. Exactly. They all want us, you know. The least of them. It would be a redemption of all the red hair giants. When the suns get blotted out and all the pale people are going to rise. That's right. All you tan people out there are not going to know what to do with those. anyway thank you so much tell our listeners where you can they can they can send you make sure to direct everything to Luke and Nate now people can find me at Jamie Walden on YouTube so sermons and different interviews and stuff like that there and then I have a landing page at omegadynamics.org that's the thing I didn't I kind of started out telling I'll just end with this is because of all this space this information space we'll talk about. That's why the Lord burdened me to write the book, Omega Dynamics, equipping a warrior class of Christians for the days ahead. And I'm not saying this as a book plug because I don't care. I never plug it. I don't care. I have no monetization agenda whatsoever. Plug it, babe. Nothing wrong with that. But the Lord burdened me to write the book to the answer to, so what now? Like you brought that up so we got this didactic information, right? All this stuff. Yes. All of it. but now what? And that's what the Lord burdened me because I had been in this information space learning, consuming for a decade and I kept going, but now what? But now what? Okay, I'm aware. I get it. You start with 9-11, right? Then you get into Central Banks and you get into whatever. Then you get into the Jesuits and you start going down all these rabbit holes and then you get to Giants and then you get to Nephilim and James Humanism and all that. There is this growth pattern and I was going, so what now? So what now for a decade? And the Lord burdened me when we came back from the mission field, he goes, you answer it. And I'm like, I don't even read books. Why would I write a book? And he's like, if you show up, I'll show up. Answer. So what now? And the, so what now is nothing apart from an unmitigated identity in crisis is going to survive what comes. It's about a knowing of our God. So those who know their God will be strong and go forth and do exploits. He's like, they don't know me. They just know a lot about me. So this answer, how do we root ourselves in Christ alone? Because even the elect would be deceived if it's possible. It's so good. It's so thorough. It's so ubiquitous and collective. You're not going to stand unless you know God alone, apart from everything else. That's great, Jamie. I think that's actually one of the things that is impressive on me, too, is that we can have all these bodies of knowledge, but then it becomes this paralysis of analysis. Absolutely. You go, okay, I know all these things, but what do I do? Yeah. You know, and what's next? And so, man, thanks for coming out. This has been a couple years in the making. We've been sending emails. I know. And you're, like, friends with all of our friends, which is really cool to have you here, man. If you look out, you can see all the bee's nests just lined up. We nuked them all, dude. Even though nuclear isn't that strong. It's not. Really. Yeah. So why? We're hiding under our desk in California in the 80s. Yeah. Do you remember those? Earthquake and nuclear. you're like, dude, we just had another death. Side note too, watch the limited nuclear exchange be the impetus for the rollout of UFOs. Notice how they've sowed for decades about they're always interested in their nuclear power plants and their nuclear weapons and their nuclear this. And then you get nuclear burns and nuclear radiation, blah, blah, blah. The aliens are interested in our tech because we're like children with a firecracker. We've all heard that being stoned for decades, right? So watch this World War III that they're going to spin as the Battle of Armageddon so that the Antichrist is going to be spun as the Messiah. bringing us into a millennial reign. This World War III is when I think the real disclosure is going to happen with the advanced tech showing up to keep us from destroying humanity and help us evolve. So it's going to be centered on the nukes that are used, potentially, even in the next two weeks. Which would make sense why they would want to turn them off. Kind of send that. That's Robert Salas, right? They're turning them off. Yep. So watch that narrative. Again, that influence campaign. It's been being sewn, and it's all getting ready to come to us. Bro. They play the long game. Long game, dude. Those aliens. Go. Thanks for having me on, guys. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. you