The Real Report - Gianni Paolo on Power Book II: Ghost, 50 Cent's influence, acting with Michael Rainey, and Hollywood's dark side
84 min
•Apr 1, 2026about 2 months agoSummary
Gianni Paolo discusses his breakthrough role as Brayden in Power Book II: Ghost, detailing his journey from struggling actor in LA to becoming a major TV star. The conversation covers his collaboration with Michael Rainey Jr., 50 Cent's influence on the show, the strategic nature of acting careers, and insights into Hollywood's competitive landscape and darker elements.
Insights
- Improvisation and genuine effort on set directly influence writer investment in characters, leading to expanded storylines and better material
- Strategic career moves in acting require balancing immediate financial gain against long-term visibility and franchise association
- The Power universe created an anomalous opportunity for actors to monetize fame through club appearances and brand partnerships, unlike traditional TV acting
- Downtime during production is a significant risk factor for substance abuse among young actors, more so than character immersion requirements
- Authentic personality and accessibility to fans translates to sustained career momentum and professional respect from producers and directors
Trends
Streaming platforms reshaping theatrical release economics, forcing genre films to compete differently than 5-10 years agoAI and CGI technology enabling lower-budget film greenlight approval while creating less engaging on-set experiences for actorsPodcast platforms becoming primary content distribution and monetization channels for entertainment personalities alongside traditional mediaFranchise films serving as career stepping stones to prestige projects rather than career endpoints for A-list actorsCreator economy enabling actors to build parallel revenue streams through social media, club appearances, and podcast sponsorshipsGenerational shift in classic film appreciation, with newer blockbusters becoming 'classics' to younger audiences within 10-30 yearsProduction set culture varying significantly by producer/network, with hip-hop-influenced productions allowing more creative freedom than traditional studios
Topics
Acting Career Strategy and Script SelectionImprovisation Techniques in Television Production50 Cent's Production Influence on Power UniverseActor-Writer Collaboration and Character DevelopmentSubstance Abuse Prevention in Entertainment IndustryStreaming vs. Theatrical Release EconomicsPersonal Branding for Entertainment ProfessionalsFranchise Film Career TrajectoryPodcast as Content Distribution PlatformOn-Set Professionalism and Work EthicAI and CGI Impact on Acting PerformanceClub Hosting and Celebrity MonetizationGeographic Production ChallengesFan Interaction and Celebrity AccessibilityGenerational Film and Television Preferences
Companies
Blumhouse Productions
Produced the film 'Ma' starring Octavia Spencer, where Gianni had a role with backend deal structure
Netflix
Streaming platform where Gianni's film 'Trust' is currently performing well in viewership numbers
Paramount Plus
Streaming service where the film 'Trust' is available and performing strongly on the platform
Paramount Network
Network associated with distribution of Gianni's film 'Trust'
Amazon Prime
Mentioned as example of streaming platform with stricter on-set professionalism standards than Power
Apple TV
Referenced as streaming platform with more formal production standards compared to Power productions
iHeart Radio
Podcast distribution platform hosting 'The Real Report' and 'Joe and Jada' podcasts
Empire
Music label where Uncle Murda recently signed a deal to release new music projects
Groundlings
Improv comedy school in LA where Gianni trained alongside Will Ferrell and other comedic actors
Upright Citizens Brigade
Improv training institution where Gianni studied comedy and acting techniques
Baskin Lava
Hair care and men's health product brand offering grooming solutions and wellness kits
People
Gianni Paolo
Lead guest discussing his acting career, Power universe role as Brayden, and podcast venture
Michael Rainey Jr.
Co-star and close collaborator with Gianni, discussed their on-set chemistry and friendship
50 Cent
Executive producer and director of Power episodes, influenced Gianni's career trajectory significantly
Octavia Spencer
Star of film 'Ma' where Gianni had a supporting role early in his career
Will Ferrell
Referenced as notable alumnus of Groundlings improv school where Gianni trained
Melissa McCarthy
Referenced as Groundlings alumna who became successful comedic actress
Donald Glover
Referenced as notable UCB alumnus who trained in improv comedy
Leonardo DiCaprio
Discussed as example of A-list actor with access to best scripts and top directors
Martin Scorsese
Referenced as frequent collaborator with DiCaprio on high-quality film projects
Christopher Nolan
Mentioned as top-tier director whose scripts are highly sought after by A-list actors
Paul Thomas Anderson
Referenced as prestigious director whose projects are competitive among A-list actors
Robert Pattinson
Discussed as example of actor who transcended Twilight role to become Batman and indie film star
Denzel Washington
Referenced regarding Training Day audition process and improv requirements
Ethan Hawke
Discussed as actor who booked Training Day by being willing to improvise in audition
Bradley Cooper
Referenced as career blueprint example, transitioning from comedy to prestige drama
Ryan Gosling
Starred in Project Hail Mary, discussed as example of recent quality film with AI technology
Bruce Lee
Referenced for iconic fight scenes and classic martial arts cinema
Chuck Norris
Discussed for classic action films and fight scenes with Bruce Lee
Richard Pryor
Referenced as classic actor in films like Superman 3 and The Mac
Zendaya
Referenced as example of actor whose name carries weight in film casting decisions
Quotes
"A person who is not generous cannot be an artist. The world will be at peace only when it is ruled by poets and philosophers."
Unknown•Opening
"I moved to LA on my 19th birthday and I was like, I'm fucking doing this. This is what I wanted to do my whole life."
Gianni Paolo•Early career discussion
"Do fucking good work because then the writers want to write good shit for you. But if you show up to set and you're a fucking asshole and you don't take your shit seriously, the writers don't want to make you succeed."
Gianni Paolo•On-set professionalism
"10.8 million people are going to see what I'm about to do the next day. So it's really on me do I want to look like shit or do I want them to be like damn he was fucking funny and sharp."
Gianni Paolo•Discipline discussion
"Everything is like a strategic fucking move. If they think you're hot, if they think you're doing well, then this casting director this producer will bring you in for this movie."
Gianni Paolo•Career strategy
Full Transcript
This is an I Heart Podcast. Guaranteed human. No gloss, no filter. Just stories. Spoken without fear. A person who is not generous cannot be an artist. The world will be at peace only when it is ruled by poets and philosophers. Listen to my weekly podcast, the Pooja Bhachon on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Come for the honesty, stay for the fire. He can't do that. We went to acting class, not to cut you off. We went to acting class. Shut up. Shut up. You hear me, Jody? We went to... Shut up. Shut up. I'm the star. Shut up. Shut the f*** up. Yo, I did that. Carry the big bag. I looked at it. That's it. I was not. He didn't get stabbed. Right. Shut the f*** up. Okay. Bro! Bro! What the f*** are you doing? Ow! Grab him! Yo, bro! Come on! Get the f*** out of here. I'll get that. I'll get that. I'll get that. I'll f*** you up. Get the f*** out of here. I'll get that. It's the Real Report with Gianni Payola! Whoa! I'm like... Because he's got that money. He's got that money. Antonio, we don't got to do that all the time. I mean, I was just saying, don't forget your name, Mr.... No, we don't even got to do that. Okay. We had 100,000 subscribers. Are we popping right now? We popping. We love y'all. We love y'all so much for supporting so fast. We are blessed. Thank Uncle Murda. Thanks, Gianni, for being here today. Hell yeah. We got power in the f***ing building! Come on, man! We got Gianni in the building. What's up, guys? Bro, I'm so... What's going on, my brother? What's happening, man? I'm proud of you guys. Thank you, man. Dad asked, I'm proud of you guys. I know we talked like... I think it was maybe a year ago, and I was like... Because you were doing kind of something on your own. I was like, you guys need to do a f***ing... I'm probably just gonna blow up. And look, there are four weeks... 100 K's of God. You guys say that we was in Vegas. Shout to Dreyes. No, we miss Dreyes. But now we go to Club Live now, Fountain Blue. Definitely, man. So we'll see you there. Yeah, I'll be there. We're 50. It's always a movie. We're 50 Cent. You already know. Now, we're power. Power is a show that... You know, you got a lot of shows, right? Yeah. Like we would say back in the days, you got The Wire. Right. You had Eyes. You had The Sopranos, right? Classic. Classic, classic. Classic shows. But when you look at a show like Power That's Lasted, what you say, eight years? Nine years? No, it's longer than that. It's longer than that. They did Six of Power, Four of Ghosts. If you add on a couple, the two that have gone on of Force and then Canaan, I say around 12, 13 years. Kind of nuts. Definitely. Wow. Crazy. So you coming from Vermont. How did you, you know, shout to Vermont? I grew up in Rhode Island. Oh, in Rhode Island? They gave them the wrong thing under the system. Yo, who the f*** gave my man the wrong information again? They just setting this n*** up. I don't know. I like it, though. I don't give a f***. Why the f***? How you don't know where my man from? Vermont. Vermont. Vermont is the whitest place on Earth. Vermont. You know, he never told me something about Vermont. Not from Rhode Island. So let's ask, Eddie, where do you find this information at? Do you Google it? Like... I've never heard Vermont ever. He looked at my picture. He's like, this looks like a guy from Vermont. No, that's what I'm like. Vermont. So coming from Rhode Island, you're a professional, but we're unprofessional here. You know, it's a real apart. So coming from Rhode Island, shout to Rhode Island, you know what I'm saying? Shout to Vermont too, I guess. You know, you're not from there. And getting to acting in New York City and being around... How did you make this happen, bro? I moved to LA on my 19th birthday and I was like, I'm f***ing doing this. This is what I wanted to do my whole life. I knew I was meant to do it. Everything had pushed me towards being an actor, being an entertainer, just everything. Like, stuff would weirdly happen in my life where it would just keep pushing me towards. So I made the move, go to LA. I'm catering for a little bit. You know, I'm doing this. I'm doing that, trying to make ends meet. Booked a couple of voiceover gigs, which helped me get out of the restaurant. I was grinding in acting classes, improv, doing live stage, theater, comedy, all of it. And then I booked a couple of different guest stars and some shows. And then I almost did an audition for Power because I just booked that movie, Ma, with Octavia Spencer. So I was going to go shoot that in Mississippi. I'm like, huge universal Blumhouse movie. I get an audition that came in for Power that was a local hire, which means I need to fly myself and put myself up there in New York. So I'm going to lose three, four bands on this, whatever. At this point, I'm still broke as f***. Like, I'm like, I don't have this money to do this. And it was only a co-star, which means it's one or two scenes, less than like five to eight lines. So I'm like, it's not worth it. Call my mom. Yeah, I just got an audition for the show Power. But I booked that movie Ma, so I'm going to go shoot that. She's like, can you please, like, please audition? Like, me and your father love that show. Like, just please audition for it. Oh, well, look at that. I know. So I was like, at this point, I'm not tapped into anything because I'm so broken at LA. I'm hustling. So you didn't even know about Power like that? Bro, I wasn't watching anything on TV because I just, at this point, I'm like, I need to make it happen for myself. I'm not watching any other motherf***er. I would watch like good movies that came out to like, you know, look at my craft and all that stuff. But I was so locked in seven days a week that I was like, I don't even care about anything. So audition for it, sent in the audition. It was the fastest response I've ever gotten. I think I booked it in like 12 hours. Like usually week, two weeks, sometimes a month in 12 hours. They're like, you booked it. You're going to New York next week. I was like, fuck. I'm like, yeah, now I'm going to lose this money. But I was like, whatever. So it was one scene. Go there, shoot the scene, do it with Michael. Now me and Rainey don't say a word to each other. This is your first time meeting them, correct? Yes, my first time meeting them. And there's like a skeleton crew. So this was season five of Power where there was no, there was like really nobody there. Like it was Christmas. Everyone had already like kind of broken and went away. So it was just Tariq and Brayden all day long. And at this point, Brayden wasn't supposed to be what he was. He was just like, supposed to be a dickhead roommate of Tariq's that they were supposed to butt heads in that scene. But the director was super cool. So she was like, you can improv, have fun, do whatever after I had done a couple takes. So all my comedy and improv training, all that stuff came in. And I just did whatever I wanted. And then the whole crew was laughing. I was like, oh, it seems like everyone liked it dipped out. Went and filmed that movie in Mississippi. And then there was kind of like a little bit of a low period where I was like still audition, whatever. And then all of a sudden the episode of Power comes out. And everything that I'd improv made it into the show. And everything that was written got cut. So I was like, oh, they really liked what I did. But I was like, cool, great. It was great. I was dope, whatever. How did you feel? I was sitting there for the first time like, oh, shit. Tell you got hold on, he has to tell the people what improv is because a lot of people don't know. Yeah. So improv is like you have your lines, you have your scripted lines. And then improv is like you improvise. So which I think always makes the best fucking scenes because it's real shit. Like me and Mike improvise all the time now because we know each other so well. We know the character so well. So it's more real of a moment if you're not stuck to, you know, the guidelines of what the words that you have to say. Because sometimes you just want to say, fuck, like what the fuck? Like what the fuck are you thinking? But the line might be, Tariq, we shouldn't do that. So there's a lot of stuff as an actor like subtext. Like maybe you should feel that way, but still have to say the lines. I always say like the lines are the road is the roadmap of the scene, you know. But some shows and some directors are more forgiving than others and let you improv. So that's kind of what you do. So I just I had a lot of comedy improv like on stage at groundings and UCB kind of like where Will Ferrell came up and all those guys really learned how to become comedic actors. I did a lot of work there and training there. So when it came time, I was like, fuck, this is easy compared to like being on stage in front of, you know, 100 people. Crushed it, did that movie and then Power came out. And then my team calls me and they're like, oh, they wrote you a whole storyline for season six. So I was like, oh, shit, they like what I did. I'm excited. Again, still in credit card debt, still kind of like juggling shit. Like you don't make shit on those episodes. Like I lost money in that first one. And then the second one you make probably like they upped it a little bit, maybe like 1500 bucks in episodes. So you wasn't feeling good when you saw the first episode? Oh, I was feeling amazing. But I just don't really remember those times because like I was so wrapped up in like the movie. And I was like, this universe is so crazy because Power is the thing that broke me out. But at this time, like this was supposed to be a giant movie. It was tracking like get out. It was Octavia Spencer. And I'm like, I'm going to be a fucking movie star. And I was like, I wasn't even thinking about Power. Power came out and I was like, cool. But I think I was just so focused on the movie that it power slipped up. So when they brought me back for season six, did a couple more episodes and then 50 was directing episode three. Now that was fucking so dope because he comes up to me at breakfast. And like at this point, I had only done one or two scenes. So I'm like, I don't really know like kind of the crew or anything. I go to get fitted and Frank, he does all the clothes. He was like, yeah, we thought you were going to be terrible, but you were so funny. And I was like, why did you think I was going to be terrible first off? And second off, and I was like, thank you. Like I appreciate that. Like I only had two scenes, but thank you. I go to breakfast and 50 comes up me and he just was like, you can kind of do whatever you want. Like I see your shit like you're funny, like just have fun. And like that was wild. So then I start improv and more of those first couple episodes. And even the camera guys were like, then I'll let anybody improv on the show. They're both you really. I was like, so that was just like, it was just kind of because I knew the work that I'd put in and the shit that I was doing. And I was like, I it was just all like approval to be like the work that I did fucking paid off, you know. So 50 comes up to me and Michael that episode he's directing and he whispers in our ears, he's like, you guys take over and he walks away. Now me broke after at that time, I'm like, I'm doing all episodes this season. I'm doing all 10. Great. That's best case scenario for me. I do every episode. Now I do episode four and then I never get called to come back. And then there's announcement on deadline, powers ending with season six. They're doing 15 episodes because they did that extra five to close out the show. I was like, damn fucking 50 cent lie to me. Said I took over and I don't take over. I'm about to be back trying to figure this out. Oh, I know. But then so the movie was about to come out in May. So at this time I'm in like 15, 20 grand worth of credit card debt. And I'm like the way that Blumhouse, which they do, they did think they did get out. They do a lot of like five million dollar budget movies. They pay the cast scale and then you get back end. So like if the movie does 20 mil in the box, which it was more theaters back at that time, you're getting 50 K every 20 mil it gets. So you could walk out. They were quarter million dollars. You know, my team had fucked up my contract. So I didn't make any money unless the movie hit 50 million dollars. U.S. not global U.S. The movie hit $47.8 million U.S. Yeah. So it's like a week before the movie's about to come out. Now I'm sweating. I'm like, we're going up against Godzilla, Rocket Man, the Elvis movie. I'm like, we're not Elvis. Uh, Elton John. I'm like, we're going to get fucking crushed. We did well. We have finished third that weekend. But like a couple days before that movie came out, I got a call from Courtney and she's like, um, yeah, you're you're going to be the lead of the spin off with Michael. All from a one episode co-star that I just improv and had fun with. And it turned into what this all this was. Being on stage with five, meeting you guys, meeting all my favorite rappers. Like I I would be heartbroken. Like I even have a story where like I I would audition for shows like, you know, 13 Reasons Why or Riverdale or big, big, big, like iconic teen romance. You love like shows and I'd be heartbroken when I didn't get it. And then I see these kids get 20, 30 million followers. I'm like, fuck. But when I booked power and then everything unfolded, I literally was like, oh, like I said, oh, to God, I was like, it all makes sense. This no one else could is like, I don't know. It just all made sense to me. It just everything fit. Like I showed physical picture on my Instagram and I showed 50. It's me with a G unit t-shirt on it, like 10 years old. I'm like, it's just like everything was meant to happen the way that it happened. And and look where we are. You know what I mean? Definitely. I love my boys. It's crazy. My boy. Don't you guys understand? Let it just let me add and look up on training day. What's the acting training day again? Ethan Hawke. That whole movie from what I see, how many people tried out for training day? Because there was supposed to be a whole bunch of actors for training day. But Denzel wanted them to all improv. So Ethan Hawke was like the fifth guy to do it. Like he was the only guy to improv because that's like me and you being in the movie. And what you been you did. Of course. Well, you you was a costar. You had like five lines and he didn't want to. Let me tell you something right now. Let me tell you something. How this whole podcast thing kind of almost even started. We got to set out to my man right here. Right. We got to set out to my guy because he caught me and this guy right here arguing about who was in a fucking better movie, which it was me. I was in a better movie. I was in the movie with Bruce Willis. You understand what I'm saying? That was on Netflix. That was in the movie. What do you call it when you only have five lines costar? It don't matter that costar. I don't care. I have more than that. I have more lines. But nobody cared about the he was in Bumass Y. He was in Bumass Y2. I ain't gonna lie. I haven't even seen it. I haven't even seen it. I know you did. I know you did. Where's your movie? I think you're talking about Swat 2. You can go check that movie. Boom. I can't find that movie. You know where? You did him dirty. That video went so viral. I feel like I always catch those moments. Like I don't know what it is. Like I always catch those moments. I think that has like 20, 30 million views. Yeah, that was that was crazy. Right. That was a good boba. Yeah. But at that point they were like, you guys got to do a show together. It was lit for me. No, I think the illest moment with Gianni was like, yo, every time you see G-Unit, you said something in London. We was viral. That went viral too. Yeah. Yeah. That was like, shout to London. That was an epic drunk night in London. Yup. I was drunk that night. That was a great night. I was like, you say G-Unit? Fucking just Yale appears. And I looked at my camera and I was like, just get this. Like we're not even going to play anything. Just record this. And I was like, all of a sudden Yale drunkenly comes out of tape. He's like, G-Unit? I did it. Wow. Nice to learn that. How do you keep the balance? Because a lot of people, they say a lot of people that you see homeless in the street are old actors that came to LA and trying to follow the dream. Everybody wants to come to Hollywood. Yeah. But how do you keep your balance? You got drugs out there, beautiful women, wild parties. And I'm around it every night. But I don't know. I just don't need that. I want to know what I've come to. My conclusion is why there's a lot of Disney stars or actors that become drug addicts is that there's a lot of downtime as an actor. Like there just is. Like maybe with you guys, you go to show to show you're on the move. You're traveling. You go to your next show. You got to, you know, you're in the hotel. We don't have that. We get to set and then you sit in your trailer for a couple hours. You go to your scene. You're kind of sitting around all day long. And then you might rap early and you're shooting in fucking Vancouver for eight months. Like a lot of shows are shooting there. Who do you know out there? So now you're going to do like four or five hours before you go to bed. Kind of if you don't have a girlfriend, you're just kind of sitting there alone or with your castmates, even if you're cool with them. And half of them got their own shit going on. So you're just sitting around. Now, when you go to like an event or you go somewhere, you have all these people yelling at you. There's all this serotonin even being on set, like people catering to you. And then all of a sudden, you know, you go back home and you're dead quiet and you're like, bore. She's like, I'm a little drug, do all this. That's how I feel like all these kids kind of get involved with all this stuff because you're just so much downtime. Then you go film something for six months. Then you were off for three months. You're like, OK, got to book the next job now. You could have potentially six to eight months of just not working and just being in LA. Like so if you don't have a strong fucking mindset, a lot of these kids out there don't, they'll just fold. They're doing I see every actor, these kids every night doing blow doing this, doing that, and they just can't control. I thought it was the play the part. Like if you tell me, y'all got to play Batman tomorrow. You know what I mean? I might want to somebody might say, I got to do a drug or some shit to be getting a character. I don't know. I mean, that's what I was thinking. No, just really think about it. Like to get in the character like say you playing Batman. That's why I'm no he played the Joker. I forgot. He played the Joker. He played the Joker. And that was one of the best. And that was one of the best. He was one of the best jokers. Yeah, that's that's actually my favorite. Preston ever my favorite performance ever of any actor. It's number one for me. That was the best Joker. It's the best performance I think of all time. Like you just can't beat that. But yeah, like I don't know. I guess maybe if in your mind, if you're if you're that crazy, like you have to do drugs to get in the character like there's so much downtime. How the fuck are you going to do drugs all day long? If you tell me I got to play Batman, nigga. I don't know how to like pop a pill. I think I'm Batman. That's why I'm my fucker. Yo, this is. This is. I'm just thinking that's that's what it is. Actors do that. Actors do that. Look, you. Perkman. How many. Look, no, I'm just saying. Listen, no, I'm not a perp man. But how many. Listen, how many actors have you heard say they played a part and it took them a while to to weed off of being that. I'm not going to lie. Even her shout out to my that's our God, Mike Epps. I even heard him say he was coped up when he was doing, I think one of the movies that he was doing. He said he was coped up in one of them since the whole bunch of. I don't know. That always blows my mind because what people don't understand was a hangover. I think it was one of them way. I think it was one of them. He said he's I think it was was it Friday, one of the Fridays. Oh, I did see that. Yeah, I think it was one of them. He said he was actually coped up. Oh, and think about it. You got to do 30, 40, 50 takes. You're then you break for lunch, then you got to do hair and makeup. You're going to do blow all day long. You're like, like for 12 hours, you'd be dead. You'd overdose. So it's like you get what I mean. So it's like it's all day long as an actor. There's like the whole your whole day is like this. You get to set hair and makeup, hair and makeup. But then all of a sudden they sit you in your trailer for two fucking hours. You're like, oh, shit. All right. Then you sit there for two hours. Then they go, OK, we need you on set ASAP. So I don't know. I just think it would be hard to realistically do drugs and be an actor. And it's some professional. Right. Right. But maybe if you have like because I had that crazy scene where I slam the drug dealer's face into the into the cocaine because he sold my girl the the fentanyl. And that day I like I took a little bit of an Adderall. So I was like that. Oh, shit. Took an Adderall and then I was drinking Celsius all day long. But like that's as far as I'll go. I think like doing real coke like you just would have to do it all day long. Yeah. Well, my man said for Batman, he a pop up pill. You a pop up pill to be a joker. Definitely would. The fuck out of it. That's your fuck out of it. Fuck out. It's murder. You guys could have one dream role. What would it be? Dream role for me. Oh, oh movie, new movie. Anything. If you could pick your role tomorrow, you start filming it. What would it be? Mm hmm. Shit. I would want to be like in I would say they supposed to be making a Scarface 2, but I want to be in Scarface 2. I don't think that could work though, man. I don't think so. Well, he was in SWAT 2. He's the king of the movies that make no sense. Swat 2, Scarface 2. But he was a co-star with Bruce Willis. He didn't even, did you even say Bruce Willis? You didn't even say what up to Bruce Willis? Bruce Willis is my man, nigga. Put it like that. Benny Boom be fucked up. Because we can't out-find SWAT 2. Benny Boom, you gotta look crazy. Good looking for that movie. I can't fight it on 2B. Nothing, man. That's a good thing. A movie, man. The ideal role. I don't know. I like to be some Godfather Harlem type in the days. Like, yeah, something like that type, man. Word. But it's like when you look at like power and like you be on set, like, you know, because I know, you know, when Mietra's on set, smell like weed and all that crazy shit. If you used to say like yo, Murt, if you ever go on set, be on time, be professional. Yeah. How much does that really, that really counts? Like on set? Because you said it's 12 hour day. Dude, it's so weird. I mean, like power is an anomaly. Like you go on a power set, obviously it's like, you know, 50 cent produced. And there's a little leeway. I've heard, I heard that Wu Tang was a little bit like that too. People smoke in and drink. You go to a like a real proper like Amazon or Apple TV set. That does not fly. Now, maybe you got a crazy actor every now and then, but like, I don't know. Like I just feel like that that shit only really happens because it's power. And there's a little bit more, you know, like obviously there's a lot of rappers that come on set. So like Mietra was kind of doing his thing on on BMF. But like, I know there's just so many like, Yo, listen, that shit was getting, that had to get to y'all head. Y'all niggas was like, y'all was the only actors that actually 50 book y'all and like rap artists. Y'all had walk dos. Mietra made, Mietra made a lot of money. Michael Rainey made a lot of money. Gianni made a lot of money. The ghost made a lot of money. Tommy like the way 50 had it set up is like y'all had rappers like y'all was rappers. That's the first time you've ever seen actors do walk dos like rappers. And the only other equivalent of that is like, I guess an actor going to like Comic Con. But it's like, who the fuck wants to sit at a booth all day long and sign papers. I'd rather be at the club of bottles like 50 really like, and he did that. He made that happen. He'd post us on his Instagram. He made us stars for that reason to have us make money like that. Like that wasn't for him. Like sure he's promoting the show, but like he does a lot of shit for us to help us out and, you know, have us do shit like that. But I don't see any other actor ever doing what we do. There's like seven or eight of us that can really like go to a club in Tallahassee or Houston and sell out a club like kind of nuts. Definitely. I talk about that all the time. I'm like, if you, if you, when I go to set and I like, I shot a movie last year with Sophie Turner from Game of Thrones, she's like, that's the biggest show ever probably. Right. And I was explaining to her, I was like telling her like what a club hosting is. And she's like, so people just pay to come and party with you in the club. And I was like, yes, she's like, this is the coolest thing I've ever heard. I'm like, you're a fucking Game of Thrones. How you don't know. Yeah, like, but they just don't know because it's just such a different world. Definitely. It's a different world. I mean, it's crazy, man. And you, you had the like crowd hype because like your scenes, like you being in court and everybody to choose on the snitch. Yeah. And you didn't snitch. The writers love me, man. I always tell people like, do fucking good work because then the writers want to write good shit for you. But if you show up to set and you're a fucking asshole and you don't take your shit seriously, you don't have your lines memorized, the writers don't want to make you succeed. So every time I would come to set, I'd be improv and I'd be going to talk to the writer who, because every writer for that episode is on set. So I'm like, what do we, what should we do? Can we add a joke here? Should we switch this out? Even like that YSL Rico joke that I made that went viral. And I said that in one of the scenes that we're at the money thing, whatever. I don't even remember what the fuck it was. But I know so much. I know so much. I changed that out. It was like Gambino crime family. I'm like, if you help the writer and you talk to him and the producers see that, because I really was trying to make every episode. I'm going to bring you into right now. Right. Right. This is what's going on. I cared about the show so much. I was like, some people just show up and they get their fucking paycheck and they go home. I'm like, I want to make every episode as good as possible. I would go up to the producers offices and I'd be like, what's the episode? What's next episode look like? I want to go through the wall when I went through the wall. That wasn't scripted like shit like that to elevate the show because I cared so much. So then the writers cared about me and they gave me cool shit and they made me look lit. And that's kind of like pushing, pull as an actor or a writer. Like you want to make them look good. They make you look good. You know, right? Did you go to acting classes or no? Before, yeah. When I first moved to LA, I was doing a little bit in Rhode Island before I moved. And then I was doing, I did live improv classes at Groundlings and Upright Citizens Brigade, which is called UCB. And that's kind of like Donald Glover started there and Will Ferrell, Melissa McCarthy, like all the greats started at Groundlings and UCB. That's like where the comedic acting comes from and where like, you know, a writer's brain of jokes and stuff. But then I took like more serious acting classes for the first like a couple of years. I was in LA and I popped in and out with an acting coach. But like, I don't know. Sometimes I'm like, I know everything I need to know about acting at this point. Like I'm going to learn more just by working now. Like a teacher's not going to teach me anything that I haven't already done. That's what gives you your drive? Because I've done seen you in London. Yeah. Then we can be in Miami. Then you're in Italy or Paris or something. Michael Rainey's in Jamaica. You in Jamaica. What gives you your drive? What made say this guy from Rhode Island? To all the people that want to be actors out there from Rhode Island. Gives him this drive to go to LA, 19 years old, no money catering. You was, you know, you went from serving food to, you know, ask the Martin trucks. No, I didn't. I really just I love it. Like I legitimately love it. Like I love pulling up on you guys. You get to you're going to tell me when I'm 10 years old, look, you're going to be friends with all your favorite rappers. You're going to be on 50 cents TV show. He's going to bring you out on stage in front of 70,000 people at Tottenham Stadium in London. I'm going everything. I'm I'm I'm living in the moment. I'm having fun like that. I think that's just like I enjoy it so much. This is where I think other people do it for not themselves. They're doing it to prove something to someone or this. I generally just do it because I have so much fun. And that's why I'm an actor because of the fun that I have doing it. The second it stops becoming fun. I'm not going to do it anymore. But I just have fun. That's why I do the podcast with Mike. Like I leave the studio after doing two episodes like God, that was so fucking fun. We really just had like Michael Ely in here. Like I grew up watching him like Fat Joe in here. Like we just have crazy people that I grew up idolizing that I just sat down and chopped it up with for an hour and got him on my podcast. Like I just love what I do. Like that's really it. That's crazy. Yeah. To live your dream just to think, you know, they said he was from Vermont. Eddie. The kid from Vermont. The kid from Vermont. Shelter wrote out. So what's next for you though, man? What's next? What you working on next? So that movie just came out that I did trust. I did that last year. We got crushed in the box office, but it's killing it on streaming now. Okay. Shelter trust. So that's the way we can see that at. Paramount Network. Okay. Paramount Network. It's on Paramount Plus now. Paramount Network. But dude, it's so hard. Like to do those types of movies, there's like genre horror movies or they're superhero Marvel movies. Like there's kind of no in between. It's kind of hard to be in theaters and make a movie do like it used to do five years ago. But we're crushing on streaming now. And yeah, dude, I'm just, I'm getting ready for the next thing. I'm just auditioning and figuring out what the right plays because you could go and do something and get stuck on a show for eight, 10 years and not be happy. You know what I mean? Like money doesn't mean anything to me. I'm like, I'll tell my team all the time, like not that, not that, not that. And then when the right thing comes in that, you know, it's hard too. Because once you do a show like power, you don't want to go backwards. So what if you do power and then all of a sudden you're doing like a no shade to any of like the procedural shows, but you do like a like a fire show or you play a fire part of this or that, like Da Vinci right now. But it's like you go from such a lit show when you were 50 and then all of a sudden you're just like, I don't know, I don't want to take a step back. So I'm being very like strategic. Because I remember we was talking earlier and you said you could ever take a role where you're making $20 million or you could take a role that makes you a big star. Yeah. So this is a story from, you know, Chris told me that there are these two guys and I won't mention the names because I don't know if they want the story out there. But one was a show that Dick Wolf show. So it's going to go seasons. You know, if Dick Wolf's getting involved, it's law and order. It's Chicago fire. It's all those shows. Well, you know, you're going to go for 10 seasons. Now, the other show was ballers. Now, I don't obviously Denzel Washington, sound want to booked it, but another actor booked ballers and then another role at the same time. And they were essentially like, do you want to be rich or do you want to be, you know, famous? He was like, I kind of want to be rich. So he took the role that now it's on, you know, 14, 15 season, whatever. And he's rich. He took he wanted what he wanted his family will be good forever. And now, you know, Denzel Washington's son, he doing tenant doing Christopher Nolan movies. I don't know what his paychecks look like. But like, I essentially would say that they're both pretty rich at this point. But like, he made a decision to go, maybe if I did ballers, I wouldn't have gotten to that next step. It would have just ended in 340. And tenant and all that. Right. So it's kind of a that's the game with acting is like everything is like a strategic fucking move. And it's like, if they think you're hot, if they think you're doing well, then this casting director this producer will bring you in for this movie. So it's a very strategic game that people don't really, you know, kind of know about. But they're both rich. And, you know, I love for my friends. When you hear about the stories because wasn't Will Smith, Will Smith, he was supposed to be in the Matrix. And he did that stupid cowboy movie, I think back in days. Am I wrong? Right here. He did that flop that dumb movie. Remember that movie, Will Smith? Wow. Wow. Why so will Smith was he turned down the matrix? Yeah. But here's the thing. When when you get a script, you don't know if it's going to be good or not. You don't. You could read a script and go, this is fucking incredible. And then the director could ruin it. Or even afterwards, the director could have directed it great. And the producers are like, we don't think it's going to do good. And they chop the movie up. So Will's like Will Smith, that could have been better than the Matrix in his mind. Probably. Wow. That's what I thought. No, but that's what I'm saying. That's how these guys. He probably got that right. Right. This might decisions. Right. It's all about like when you get to that level and you have 10 scripts, you've seen entourage, right? You have 10 scripts and you got to pick the best script to that's going to blow you up the most in your lane that you want to do. It's a very strategic game. It's not just like, oh, I booked this. Let me go do it. They'll lock you down for seven years. You can't do nothing. So how do guys like DiCaprio and guys like that pick the best scripts? They just get lucky? Well, not at this point. So DiCaprio was a child actor. So he got Gilbert Grape real young and he's obviously a great actor. But once like he's kind of grandfathered into where he has done so many hit movies. Now it's now it's a thing where the biggest directors coming in the best writers are coming to Leonardo DiCaprio as opposed to like there's 30 or 40 A list actors, but they're all fighting to do a Christopher Nolan movie. They're all fighting to do a Paul Thomas Anderson movie as opposed to like these. The best scripts are going to Leonardo DiCaprio, no matter what. That's why he has 20 years of hits because he's getting the best scripts that he's seeing all these scripts first before any actor in town. So he's kind of grandfathered in. Yeah. Oh, he turns everything. Yeah. He turns everything down and he picks what director he wants to work with and who he trusts. That's why he works with Scorsese a lot. He knows it's going to be a banger. Scorsese is not doing bullshit, you know. So once now my if you look at me like my path is to go, okay, cool. Do a great movie with the great director. Boom. Book that. Do a big series, you know, get a lot of notoriety. Then I might get a better script and then then you get to the top and then you can pick whatever you want. But it's getting there to be able to pick shit is kind of like the life of an actor to get there. Right. Which I did was so big, man. Like me watching TV. I remember it was three shows on that, but we always watch Merck. Snowfall. Jax. Garth Farmer Harlem. And Power. Yeah. I think like that to me that was like a classic year of TV, bro. Like for real. Like I was just bouncing back with all them shows. I mean, what would you say if you didn't watch Power though? Would you be like, what the fuck? No, I mean, you've got I mean, it's good TV. Yeah. Yeah. You know, people think, yo, we going to yes man 50 to death. Well, it's good. It's good. I agree with that. It's good shit. It's good shit. Yeah. The actor is the actor. I agree with that. The actor is good. It's dope. It's dope. I mean, the original Power is a it's a fucking masterpiece. Like those six seasons are a masterpiece, you know. It's hard when you start doing spin-offs and you have different writers rooms and different actors in different places and kind of tied all together. Like sometimes it gets a little difficult, but like those six seasons of Power are fucking masterpiece. And I didn't watch an episode of Power until after I had already shot those four episodes of season six, because I didn't want to I didn't want to know more than what Braden should have known. Like there's actually a scene where me and Tommy meet in season six of Power, but that wound up getting cut. Yeah. Why did you cut that? I think probably just for time, but he he came into the dorm room where he found out that Tariq stole his drugs and was selling it. And he came to the dorm room and he sees me and he goes, get the fuck out of here, Beiber. And I run out. So we had already met, but it cut to the point where where it he was already in the room. And I think that just goes right into him being like, you fucking you stealing my drugs. So I forgot what the point. So we had already met. What was the point of why the fuck I was saying that? Damn it. It's great TV. It's it's it's it's six six seasons of a masterpiece. Right. Think about lines for the next movie and shit. You see, that's what actors do. Yeah. But but it's six seasons of a masterpiece. And then they just need to like kind of go off and figure out what's the best way and kind of like, you know, Joseph did his show that, but it's hard to really like make it work all together after like there's different. So when did the bond with you and Michael Rainey start? Because it was like, you know, it was so fun. It was so funny because I used to go on Instagram and you know, y'all stood who had the best outfit y'all used to go against me. Meet you. You know, y'all used to hate you know, y'all used to hate on him, whatever. Y'all used to go back and forth. But it's like you never seen two actors like mesh like that and actually be brothers outside the studio in the club. Yeah. It started so it started actually just the first episode that it came back for season six of of Power where I was just like I said, you I was living in LA. So they flew me to New York and I'm just in New York City. I know a couple of people, but you rap and you're just like, oh, fuck, like I'm not doing shit. So we were on set and like most actors you meet are very proper. They're very like, you know, reserved. They could be a little crazy, but like Michael's not like an actor actor. Michael's a kid that grew up in Staten Island that just so happens to be on a TV show. Like he doesn't let that fame or anything get him. He's very like a normal kid because he grew up in his family home with all of his friends around him. And his day job was just go to power. Now, obviously, like he got bigger and bigger as like ghost happened and all that. But when I had first met him, he just he brought up a girl. He brought up a car and I'm I had I was like, I started talking about that girl. It's fine as shit. And I like look over at him and then we just started talking. And that was day one back of season six of power. Pick me up that night. Me and him went out to the club. It was over from there. We were it's going out every night. I was flying back and forth to do the episodes and then I would me and Mike would go out. And then he'd hit me like, you coming back for next hour. And I was like, I don't know. I'm not reading the episodes. Like am I coming back? So I would I was like, maybe I'll just go to New York and kick with Mike, even if I'm not in the episodes. And then that's when we got the call for ghosts. And else we were just outside every night. I mean, Garrett will tell you like he's sitting over there. He ain't never seen a set like me and Michael. But here's the thing. We would like we'd be sitting courtside of the next game and we'd be like, OK, we got the club set up tonight. Got a bunch of girls pulling up. Got to be at work at 6am. We got to be off book because we got to be professional. So we'll be sitting at the next games like running lines with each other, being like, all right, well, you got the shit. Yeah, whatever. All right, we'll cane this and that. And we're running lines, sitting at the next game. And we're not going to the club until we got the scene without looking at the paper. Look at that. We got the scene down like, all right, now. Now we can go out in the embossed. Should we take care of our shit and then whatever. And then you know, you pull up the set next morning, you're 100 percent and you're ready to go. We fucking party like crazy, but like we had our shit all the way down. And I think that's what like I think that's just like the producers and everyone like loved about us like we had. We were on our shit, you know. Yes, the talk of New York, Tony Ayo. And this the boy led Jelene. Whoa. 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Like, oh, this motherfucker really is a little crazy, like a little off. I mean, I don't know. Like, I guess I'm pretty like myself on social media. So people see me like, even people in high school, like, I know a lot of people will be like, oh, he only dresses like this or wears change or does this because he thinks he's cool with 50 Cent or he's in your unit. And I'll post people saying shit like that. And people from high school would knew me when I was 12 or 13 years old, be like, this is the same motherfucker I met when he was in Rhode Island. He's, you know, I was, I've been collecting Jordan since I was 11 years old. I was wearing the G unit tee with the G stickers at school and and being crazy. Like that was always me. So that's why, like, like I said, even like a lot of Braden's writing paralleled my life a little bit of like, you know, you know, growing up around like tough areas, but also at the same time, like your parents, you know, you got to be presentable and like a lot of shit mirrored my life. That's why I like when Braden happened, I was like, this is literally like faith. This is faith. Like you can't write a better show for me to do, you know, meet all my heroes. You and it's just like, it's just wild. So yeah, I'm grateful for it. Well, you did a great job. It was fucking great TV. And we want to see fucking more from you because it was like, yo, remember your brother, your brother, because you was the black sheep of the family. Yep. This is sister kidnapped. Brother, drugs in the crib. But here's the thing. I always say like it doesn't stem stems from Tariq a little bit, you know, like it's always for it's all fucking, you know, and I'm not sitting. Michael's fault. It's Tariq's fault. Okay. They write, but I always make this joke because I'm like, everyone's always mad and angry at power and this and that. And it's like, imagine it. There would be no show if Braden and Tariq. Oh, wow, we just sold a million dollars worth of dope. Nothing bad happened. Let's go to Miami. There'd be no TV show. Of course, when you're driving there, you got to get a flat tire and then a cop's going to pull you over and then someone hits you. But really the cop is dirty. That's what makes the show. So like people get so mad at them like if you wanted it to go the way you wanted it to go, there would be no TV show. There'd be no beef with Monet. Ghosts would still be selling drugs. Like there'd be no issues. Yeah. Because it was a point where we wanted to know who was who was more dangerous. Braden or Tariq. Yeah. We didn't know what to expect from this guy. Yeah. I think more towards season four when I was getting on the drugs, which I liked. I liked when Braden was on the drugs because it was in the show should have continued. But like it was a vehicle to get Braden to be crazy. Because if you saw Braden season six, he was a lacrosse player. Of course. He was just like nice little kid who maybe took a couple of pills. You're going to say in a year and a half he's murdering people and it doesn't make sense. So the writers were like, The girls thought turning you out. Let's turn him out. Get back and go crazy. That's kind of it was kind of like a vehicle which the writers did to like make Braden go crazy and really turn him into what he turned into. Now season five, he would have been fucking nuts, which I would have loved to see. But of course they had different plans. You know, definitely it was must see TV. Any show that makes me want to run home to go see it. It makes me feel like the wire or the Sopranos or any of them shows that we talk about. That's why we always want to know what you're doing next. You know what's going on next. What's the plans? I definitely like the next thing I want to do another show. I want to do another show. I like movies, but like you go do a movie for two months and then you don't really create like a family. You know, you just shoot a movie for two months. I don't haven't seen not one crew member from that movie trust that I did the year ago. So I'm like, I'm family with like the power crew. So I want to go do another TV show, do it for a couple of years. And then then I start picking my movies. That's really the people don't know that we all feel like the whole time. I remember it was one time people thought you and Joseph didn't like each other. Yeah. People. Why people thought that or did you not like each other? That was real. That was real. You really didn't like each other. That was real. That beef was real. Oh, man. I thought it was for the show. I thought you had like show beef. No, that the shit that happened that was on stage, which everyone saw. And we squash it and you know, it is what it is now. But like, yeah, that was real. And it was just like a miscommunication that snowballed into something. And then obviously like it got squashed. But yeah, that was real. That that wasn't for the everything. Everyone had people thought it was real. Had people thought it was fake. But like that wasn't for like the cameras or anything. But I stood on business. He stood on business and that was it. And we and we squash it. And it's still on business. You know, they stood on business. And now we all feel. Yeah. Yeah. So that's family. That's family. But family even have. Of course. You know, man, this fucking guy right here. You know, I can't fucking stand this guy. He's got a personal beauty. Yeah. I'm so confused. You're gonna find it, too. I'm curious about the dynamic of the podcast. Like who's who's coming in late? Who's doing what? Listen, I'm running the show. Fuck out of here. You see who run the show. You can see who run the show. I just dropped a bomb and now I'm just gonna take the mic away. Trust me. Trust me. You see who run the show. When I went to YouTube, you seen how hard I was working. Vlad, your show. Yep. Breakfast club. Shannon Shaw. Kill Tony. I will say your numbers are fucking nuts. Like nobody gets those YouTube numbers. Yeah, they was laughing at me on the jet when I was talking about YouTube. Vlad, man, get out of here. Now he's doing Vlad and the whole world is doing Vlad. Everybody followed the Yale blueprint. I'm... Shannon Shaw. Vlad. Breakfast club. TMZ. It's the Yale blueprint. It's cool, but I stay humble. You know what I'm saying? He wanna say it's the Yale blueprint, but just say he stay humble. Fuck off. I gotta give you the flowers. You were doing all of it before anyone was doing it. You were going viral. You were doing it like it really is. And I appreciate all the people out there that support me, support this guy, support Uncle Murden when he was laughing at me. I love you guys. And I love that y'all like and subscribe. Matter of fact, what we gonna start doing, we're gonna start doing giveaways on the show. That's something me and Murden thought about. Definitely, man. Next week we gonna pick out the subscribers. We appreciate y'all. We got some nice gifts for y'all coming. And no other show is doing that. Yeah. This is what we do. Because we got 50 Cent. We got you. We got the whole power staff. You know, we gonna get all the actors. What's next for you guys? You guys gonna tour? You guys dropping new music? What's the vibe for you guys? Right now we just, we partying, tours. I mean, he got some music with Empire. I'm definitely about to drop some new music. Except at the Empire, I just did a new deal with them. Hell yeah. So I'm definitely about to drop some new music. I got a project on the way. So I'm about to fuck the streets up right quick. Fuck you. You never know what's gonna happen. Like, we're 50. You know, we had Liv, Fountain Blue, and Vegas now. Wait, he's beefing with people on Instagram. Are you waking up like, like fucking picking your eyes, being like, oh, fine, now I gotta beef this guy? Like, what's going through your mind? This is what I tell 50. I say 50. You got so much money. All I wear here is blah, blah, blah, 100 mil. Blah, blah, blah. You know, he wakes up, blah, blah, blah, 100 mil with the plan of Hollywood thing. Blah, blah, blah. He gives a half a mil away in Shreveport. To domestic violence and stuff. So we on the phone, he's laughing. I'm like, I told him if I had his money. He don't take it seriously. So to him, if he ain't taking it seriously, we can't. How the fuck we gonna take it seriously? It's like, he just having fun with this shit. But I told, listen, this is what I know him better than anybody. Right? Yeah. And I feel like this, and I hope he don't get mad that I say this. Serious. Don't say it. Don't hold on. No, no, I don't care. I'm gonna say it. Fifth is already crazy. But I feel like when his grandfather passed away, I feel like he got even more crazy. Like when he was at the funeral, I know like all he had was his grandmother and his grandfather. So I know when he put his grandfather in the ground, I said, I'll see you. Everybody better watch out. Even me and murder. Yeah. Better watch out. You know, he found you on Christmas. You know. Yeah. This guy is crazy. Yeah. This guy is crazy, man. So make sure you know when you want to set. But if you do do, and you know, and talk about your experience with Fifth, because if you're coming to set and you're doing what you got to do, he's going to respect you because that's what we see him do. You know what I'm saying? I guess me and Fifth, he just like, I guess when I just started like kicking it with him and coming to shows and like, he called me one time when he called me last year. Like because sometimes you don't know, you're like, I think he likes me. I think he loves me. Like he's always bringing up. He's like, you know what I mean? Like, I never really know. Trying to figure it out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Fifth you're a canine. Yeah. You're 30 years in. You're like, I still don't know if he likes you. Yeah. Trying to figure it out. He called me when we were talking about the fight land stuff. And he it was like one of the best phone calls I've ever had because he called me. He's like, I really fuck with you. Like, you know what you're doing. You know how to move. You know how to post on social media. You know how to be you, but also make people attracted to the show and draw people in and you and Mike are going to hosting together and going outside. He's like a lot of the other actors on power. They don't do that. So you cast someone because you're just casting someone. You don't know if they're going to be comfortable going into warlands or I'm flying a Poland and pulling up on you guys. Now, there's probably a amount of actors on one hand. Yeah. You can count that would fly to Poland. Dola pull up to pull up on five. Now I had a Poland fine shit out there that I was going to visit. I like to pull up on five. Like what other 25 year old white actor from Vermont is pulling up and doing that. You know what I mean? Fuck you. Fuck you, Eddie. So I think that's why. He's there for Vermont. Yeah. I'm going to say fuck Eddie. Fuck Eddie. I love Vermont. I think that's why me and five like have such a good relationship is because he knows that I get it and I know like that's a shit you got to do. You know what I mean? I'll pull up to Vegas. I'll be outside with Chris Lofton like I'll go to the shit that you need to go to to create hype for the show and do what needs to be done. So he called me and he expressed all that to me and that's when the first time I was like, okay, yeah, like because sometimes you don't know like, you know, you it's just you hit him. You're like, oh, yeah, you know, the energy is different when he's not. How do you deal with that? Because I done been in clubs and people be like, Tarik Braden, I'm gonna fucking want to shoot you like people when people take the character a little too far, like want to fight in the club or bro, because people really be stuck on the character. Five years before that, I was sleeping on a pop fucking air mattress with no bread, no motion hustling every day wearing the same clothes, going to acting class. And my socks were so dirty, I come home and I take my shoes off and my shit would be all dirty on the floor in my apartment in LA my shitty apartment. Call me Braden as much as you want. I'll take every fucking picture you want me to take. I'll be at the fucking club like I'm not too cool for anyone because I know where I came from. Like so if someone's going to pay money to watch power, they're paying their fucking 1099 on stars to watch the show. They're following me on Instagram. They're commenting on my shit. Like that's someone that's a fan of you and supporting you. Like I never understood and no shade to like fucking meet you in them. But like I never understood like the man don't touch me in the club. It's like without this person who the fuck would you even be? So I feel that because I'm like I was hungry and wanted to be an actor and I've done everything that I've ever wanted to do because of these people that love the show. So it's like I'm not going to be too cool for them. I don't think I'm better than anyone else because I'm an actor or people know who I am. I just get to laugh every day and like my Monday night is doing the fucking real report with Uncle Murder and Tony Yale. Like what's who else is you know what I mean? I just like love doing it. I'm like it's going to continue because that's the attitude that I have. And a lot of people don't continue because their dick heads on set or then directors and producers they know that and they don't want to work with people like that. It's all relationships. Yeah definitely. I know and I know but you know when everything happens so fast for y'all. Like when I seen it like Michael Rainier was kind of different because he kind of was a kid on the show. Was he seven years old? Eight years old? Yeah he was I think it was around 10. 10? Yeah. So what? So eight years? What was it? What was? Yeah he's 24 now so he did probably yeah 13 years on the show. 12 years on the show. I remembered so I was when it aired because we took a break for the pandemic. When it aired I was staying at this the director of MazSpot. I was staying at his spot in East Village. And I would walk to Equinox the gym to work out on my days off. I would when I before the show aired like I had done a couple episodes in the original power but like you do two three episodes people don't really notice you. When Ghost aired after that second episode when I was like in it more bro I couldn't walk down the street. It happened in two weeks. It happened in two weeks. The week before I was on the I would call I call my my mom or I call like family or my friends like walk into the gym and I have my headphones in I just walked to the gym down whatever street it was. Two weeks later brain brain brain every five seconds I couldn't walk to the gym anymore. Even my mom would be like are people like people can I stop asking for pics and it like it happened so fast like and I just did that giant movie with Octavia Spencer. I don't I've never gotten recognized from that like the second power happened like it all changed. Now how do you stay humble now people see you in the street you got beautiful women you know I've seen you in London you know you like beautiful. Black women you like you like the Spanish you like old kinds of women. So how do you keep yourself leveled in the jury in the cars and but like but what does that even mean like what do you mean like stay like how do you keep yourself humble like but I don't know that I don't think there's like a non-humble to like I feel like I'm just I I just don't see the change like I don't see or faking it or it just doesn't it doesn't compute to me of like why you all of a sudden are getting recognized that you just turn into a dickhead. Yeah like it never it doesn't make sense to me so that's why I'm like oh I don't know I'm just like being myself like most of these actors are not being themselves. All right let me give you an example that's like y'all went to the club right you're drinking shout to the Branson boys you drinking the Branson love it you know how that should have you. I like it like him in the Roy I like the shim in the Branson you know the wild nights Branson wild nights now you you got to be on set six in the morning yeah I don't know if me and Murley you think you could do that I mean off the Branson on a wild night six in the mornings how do you do that off the Branson and drinking and then you got to be on set six in the morning you got fucked up last night you had a chicken in your bed you had a wild night. You want you want to know what what gets me to do is that 10.8 million people are going to see what I'm about to do the next day 10.8 million people are going to watch what I'm about to do. So it's really on me do I want to look like I've been looked like shit and be drinking all night and have a bloated face and do this and do that or do I want 10.8 million people to be like damn he was fucking funny and he was sharp and he knew what he was doing so it's I don't know it's kind of like up to you there are a lot of actors that show up to set and fuck off and they don't work again because they're just like well it showed in the scene like people watch the show but other people that are doing other shows watch power so if they're gonna be like I don't think he's a good actor you just fucked yourself that 10.8 million people saw because you wanted to hook up with a girl one night that you could hook up with on Saturday you know. Wow discipline yeah there's discipline because you got to think about tell them how you remember your lines that's one question yeah and how many fucking takes you out of doing doing the show. A lot of people memorize lines different like Michael Rainey will just legitimately look at the page he's got a very photographing memory so he'll look at it and he'll go yeah I got it and then I'll have like a whole paragraph I'm like what the fuck me that's how I do yeah that's crazy I wish I had that he can't do that yeah we went to acting class not to cut you off we went to acting class shut out the window shut up we are you shut up you hear me Johnny we went to the sky is trans man. I'm the star man. I'm the star man. You got to be trans actor. He carried a big bag. He carried a big bag. I was nice. I was nice. Bro he carried a big bag. He got carried a big bag. I was nice. He got shot. You didn't even say nothing. I sat out the Bruce Willis sat out the window. I looked at that shit this guy could not do it he could not it took him a long time. People have different like me I would FaceTime my little brother at night like even if it's like 2 a.m. I'm like wake up like motherfucker we got to do this and I have to hear it. I have to I have to hear it every time like in my in my bed before I go to bed because I can't do it the day of you got to sleep with that in your brain. So I have to hear it now Michael very photographic memory I just run it back and forth I just run it back and forth and I'll okay well I won't move on to the next line until I have the fully the whole one memorized. Let me tell you when you do a movie right like murder game. And you get out you get out to you get the big bag and you get shot. Get the fuck out of here. Get the fuck out of here. Get the fuck out of here. Get the fuck out of here. I had lunch. I had a hostage. Nobody seen you gotta let me talk. You and Swat 2. You and Swat 2. That shit though. In his movie look. In his movie he had a big bag right and got shot. I don't get more I don't get it. No I was I was protecting the money. I was protecting the money. I played a gangster. In Swat 2 that nobody saw. Benny Boone gotta fix that. You gotta fix that. Exactly. Nobody saw Swat 2. I was good in that. I told him that's like shot his 2 that nobody saw. Remember they had a shot his 2. Nobody ever fucking saw shot his 2. And that's like the scar face 2. You just asked him what movie he wanted to be in right. I said I was the scar face 2. No I wasn't the scar face 2. That's Ben you killed me. Listen but just what you're not understanding right. What I'm saying to him is my part that y'all didn't see that he played. It's not like they'll never get me mad anymore right. The challenge right. We didn't see his movie either though. I haven't seen it on 2B or Netflix. It was on Netflix in the movie theater brother. We was number three on Netflix. Listen look I haven't seen it on Netflix or 2B. You know I always go to 2B a lot. 2B I think you might have made it. No I haven't seen it on 2B. But he had a bank bag and got shot. Like my part I had a hostage. No small parts only small actors. There you go. Listen. I had a line. Look I had lines. Right. I had lines. I had to practice because I got shot in the head right. No one to mark myself. I got shot in the head right. I had an actual hostage that was Benny Booms wife. She was Benny Booms wife. She was a hostage. It's gonna come out now because I'm so look I had and Benny Booms like yo that's my wife. You gotta be careful with blinks. He don't his gun was in the host. He ain't do no action. Nothing happened. Like nothing happened. I'm falling through glass. I was dripping on my hand man. That's the thing. Gianni did you find it harder now or did you enjoy it? Pause for both of those but you gotta say it. When you run your back and that's it. Pause. Look. No what I'm saying is he did nothing. He took a bag and got shot. I had squid packs on the top of my head. So they were blasting. I did stunts. Too many pauses on the story. But I did stunts. So they blasted you in the face when you're on your back and that's what you're saying. But I did my movie with Bruce Willis. I had to give a date. Like I was in Cincinnati. You didn't do anything. You had to be in the bank bag. I actually went to Cincinnati. You know that? And I was on set for like a week. I was shot in Detroit. I was on set for a week too. I know you wasn't. You were like now I'm lying. I had to go to Cincinnati. Fifth had me lit out there and all that. Yo bro I was on set. You know I was on a set. I was on a set for him in the movie? Because he know he can't act. I'm just being honest with you. That's what I played for me. I played a good act. I actually he don't even know how to deal with blinks and guns. I'm shooting blinks. That's what I hated. At the movie we didn't do anything. You got shot in two seconds. You didn't even have lines. I was in there for 10 minutes. We ain't gonna talk about this. Give me some paper towel. And before he did money and vowels. Shout to money and vowels. Money and vowels. Don't let my money and vowels come for you. They could come for me. I was a kid. It was a 1k. I'm a kid. They didn't have the technology back then. Shout to y'all. Money and vowels was popping back then. We had it lit. So that's why we had money and vowels lit. That was popping. You was okay in that. I was popping in that. It was nothing else going on. I was popping the money and vowels. I love money and vowels. It was a great show. I had to slap my little brother. The lens we had. I slap my little brother. I got fins. Nobody saw Swat 2. You remember Swat 2? You remember Swat 2. I didn't know they made a second one. I'm not gonna lie. But the first one was really good. Swat. The first Swat. Swat was good. So that's not really his fault. The one that he wasn't in was good. Yo, let me explain something to you. If 50 put me, all you see is put Yeyo on the show. I don't never see anybody say put murder on the show. They definitely say put murder on the show. Put Yeyo on the show. Did you talk to him about being in power? I don't even worry about it. Because I got other things coming. You know, I got big things coming. Murder don't even know what's going on. He can spread about acne. Still my brother. He don't want to tell me that. I ain't messing with him. I'm just staying humble, man. So what's next? What do you want to do? What's the goal? I'll see you in the gym. I'll see you working out. I'll see you staying healthy. It's movie start time. I want to do someone's career who I fucking love is Bradley Cooper's. He did Hangover. He did one of the most iconic comedy movies of all time. And then he just started doing Silver Linings Playbook. He just started picking the right movies. I mean, Limitless. And he's someone's career that I really fucking love. So that's my blueprint. Like he started on a show for a while, too. I think it went four or five seasons. And then he kind of bounced around and then he found his footing. Like that's like my goal was like Bradley Cooper. And if I that that's it, like that's that's the the bar for me. Like I can't I'm not going anything lower than that. How do you how do you feel about like would you would you be happy to do like franchise movies? Oh, of course. I don't know why like, I mean, I guess like people kind of can get stuck in something. But like even like you look at Robert Pattinson, you know who that is? He he's the the kid from Twilight. He played the vampire. OK, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. OK, I mean, yeah, he like played a corny vampire. And I like those movies. But like he played a corny vampire for five movies. And and people are like, he's going to get tight. The guy is he's Batman now. He's the new Batman. The guy he's doing cool ass A24 safty brothers movies. He's doing whatever the fuck he wants to do. So like please bring me the franchise movie because the franchise movie is going to get you the movies that you actually want to do. Because once you're associated with the Marvel, you know, with the superhero movie, then your name carries enough to green light that script that you fucking love. You know what I mean? That that that five to ten million dollar script that you're like, this is a story I want to fucking tell. So go do the the superhero movies, make the big money, get super famous, get the Instagram following. So then when you want to do this A24 project, you have enough cloud in your name to just. Get investors to go. Yes. You know what I mean? That's why I don't ever turn down. I'm not going to say no to a franchise. Yeah, that's what you feel is the biggest franchise movie to you. That I would do or just in general, in general, or you would do both. I mean, like everyone said, but like Dream Roll would be Joker. Now I don't want to like go as far as he's led. That's my favorite performance ever. So like even me being like fuck, like I would have to compete with that is still like that's daunting for me. But it would it would probably be Joker or like even maybe Batman like the Batman franchise, I think is the biggest Batman and Spider-Man. Like those are the two biggest now. Like you could go to like Fast and Furious, but like internationally, those just don't do the numbers that Batman and Spider-Man will always do because of the comic books, you know. I think Harry Potter was a big friend. Yeah, that was I think that was that's yeah. That's it was there's a lot of franchise movies like he just named Fast and Furious. Harry Potter, a lot of that acting kind of like sucks. Not and I don't mean the actors suck. I mean, it sucks going to set and like Fast and Furious is probably a lot of fun because there's a lot of driving shit like that. But a lot of the Spider-Man shit and it's a lot of CGI now. So you're like it's like dead quiet and you're it's a lot of fake shit. So you're not really having to pour any or do any effort into that stuff. That's what might be challenging for me. But like some of the best actors say like I get paid to wait. I get paid to do you know, I ask for free because I love it, but I get paid to do the dumb shit. That's where these big checks are making me be like, all right, I'm not going to acknowledge the fact that I'm doing a fake spider out of my God. Because you feel like the AI move is making movies better. No, no. Yeah, I don't think I don't do you feel a is making movies. Yeah. No. Why not? I don't think they are. Are you a fan of AI with it? You feel like it's fucking up the acting game a little bit? I don't think AI will ever replace an actor because someone at home wants to wants to see an actor. Do people go to the movies because fucking Zendaya is in it? Yeah, no, I'm not saying actor. I'm saying just the AI technology. Like he said, the actor is just doing this like the Caprio when he fought the bear. Technology is different. What movie was that with the Caprio? The bit. Yeah, he went out the bed. When he fought the beard, I was AI. That shit looked real as hell. Okay, I get what you're saying. Yeah, I'm not saying you. I thought you was talking about like the AI verticals. Overroll, but the act is. Yeah, of course. Oh, it's killing it. Yeah. I mean, like certain AI, like that technology is like you need it and it actually helps movies because you can make them for cheaper so people can get their projects greenlit like without having a $60 million budget. You're like, oh, we could AI this in. Maybe this budget goes down to like 20 million and more stuff can get made. Now it gets rocky with like what kind of they're trying to replace actors and take away jobs from people, but I just don't think it'll ever do it because people want to go see 50 in a movie. People want to go see Zendaya or Robert Pat. Oh, yeah, definitely. We want to see them. I'm not I'm not talking about the actors. I'm talking about like, uh, what's the new movie that just came out? Hail Mary? Yeah, I saw it. It was it was a project Hail Mary. Now I watch. I watched that. Did you love it? I loved it. It was one of the best movies I've seen in theaters in a long time. You didn't see it. I'm not going to give you too much on it. But I've been seeing it. It's one of the best movies I've seen in my life and the graphics was crazy and and the writing was crazy because when you watch alien movies, right, the alien is always somebody evil or something crazy or going to kill you or something when you watch the aliens. It's usually scary. So the only alien movie that really was like where the alien was friendly was E.T. So we see E.T. years ago. So when I seen this, I was like, Hail Mary, this is so good. It was crazy. And he was fucking unbelievable. A friendly alien. Yeah, you use parts of that thing where you felt it like, oh, shit. Yeah, it was amazing. I didn't know what I was getting into when I was because I didn't see the trailer. I was like, I know. Project Hail Mary. I'll make sure you all see that. And what's what's the guy? Who's the guy Russ? Ryan Gosling. Ryan Gosling. It was unbelievable. And it was so good. I think he could win an Oscar. Who's the female actor who was in there? It was it was great, man. That I just watched that went to the movies. Go see that Project Hail Mary. That's what I'm talking about. And that's what I'm saying. AI, like just how everything's going. Yeah, I get what you mean. All right. So that's so because I didn't see that. I'm going to make you check it out. We don't want to screw you. So it had a lot of AI involved in that movie. Yeah, there's a robot in the movie that he talks to pretty much the whole second and third act. So like he, yeah, okay. It's a lot of AI. Okay. And you know, I'm into like all the space sex stuff. Like, you know, because think about it like the way future like technology is going now. Like they're trying to make space. It's just trying to get a, you know, a station on Mars. You know what I mean? Yeah. Just thinking about that. Like in the next 10 years when, you know, people are like living on Mars that like, I just want to be around and see something like that. That's crazy, man. Yeah. You really, really think about it. You know what I'm saying? I like Earth too much. I think I think I like the bitches on Earth too much to go to Mars. No. You know, imagine imagine. I like Dray. Yo, listen. All right. What I'm saying is imagine you taking one of your girls, taking one of your girls to Mars. That's the ultimate trip. Like, it's going to get so crazy. You're like, I'm taking a baddie to Mars this weekend. What do you do? That's actually fucking hilarious. You got to think about it when technology is going, man. I'm like, that's why I kind of liked it because I was like, and just the whole fact, you know, people, you know, alien concept and it just the last friendly alien movie. Like I said, we've seen was ET. Yeah. Come on. ET everybody love ET. Where's your favorite place to go when you do travel? Because you travel a lot. Yeah. I mean, I love the Caribbean everywhere, man. That's why I'm like curious. Like you fucking seen every place. I always tell people start off with Paris, Amsterdam. And I would say Dubai. Yeah. And for three different reasons. Yeah. Can't smoke in Dubai. So you be tight, but they got that shit. I be mad at that. And then you do like 10 years over that joint in the same. So we got Dubai, but I love Dubai, Man made beaches, the buildings, the vibe. What about you? Where do you like going? Me? I like Dubai too, because it like the, he said, like the man made infrastructure and all that. How they got that set up. I like Australia a lot. I like Australia is dope, man. I like Australia. I like London. I like Paris too. Yeah. London's always we have London's always a good time. London got the best making food. Oh my God. Oh my God. Paris. You can go. Did you go to that Somali spot with us? No, I didn't go. I got to go next time. I didn't go. Somali spot. Mm-hmm. I got good African food or anything. Just London. London feel like New York without the guns, just knives and different accents. For the stabby, quick and London. That's the only thing, but I love, I love travel, man. You know that. I think that's the best thing about it is meeting the people. Like when you say you meet all these people, like to me, like being an actor, like what would you rather be? Honestly, an actor or a rapper? Me, I would really have to say I can't knock my path. So I would say rapper, but I want to get into acting. I want to eventually get into acting, but I love the music. Fuck all that. I'd rather be an actor. But I think they both have their pros and cons. Obviously, you guys live like a faster, more fun and lit kind of life. Like, think about it. You are only seeing like me and Michael and people who are on power. 99.9% of actors that does not happen. They're going to their show, whatever Amazon Prime or Netflix or show that they're on, they're with a bunch of married cast members that are very proper and honestly dickhead sometimes. And they grew up doing theater and it's this big thing and then all of a sudden everyone goes home to their own thing and you're on set and somewhere and you got to go back to your hotel room. Like, you don't have, it's not lit with 50 and murder. You're not going to the clubs like if you were to just be an actor. The only reason it looks cool to you is because you see power, which is sick and no other actors live like we do. But that's the only reason why you're like, I would rather be an actor. Green light. Right. Now go do a movie in fucking Australia or wherever and you're there for six months and I'm telling you he's going to be like, I want to go back to being a rapper. I promise you. It's like it's not as lit out of the power universe. No, I like being on set. I like big budgets. I like big budgets. Because I was in when I was in Cincinnati. You don't have big budgets, baby. I was like, damn, luckily I had to connect to get some bud out there, right? It's boring, though. It was boring. Like some set that I'm just in my hotel room waiting for them to call me back the next day to do the same bullshit again. I get it, really? It was like, damn. We was in Detroit. They was beefing about coming to the store. Nah, you were that big boom shit. It was different. I'm talking about this profession. No, not Benny Boom. We was in Detroit. The profession and shit that me and him talking about is different. Shout to Bruce Willis. I'm talking about like real, like, yeah, Bruce Willis. Shout to Bruce Willis. The professional set. I know what you talking about. But he got shot in two seconds. Benny Boom, hood shit he talking about. He just said they was at the grocery store. Of course you probably think it's cool. Nah, we's on a corner with a big set. A corner at the grocery store. Get the fuck out of here. Benny Boom's killing me without this shit coming out. But I haven't seen his movie either, for real. For real. I'm just talking about it. What's the name of your movie? Reprisal. Reprisal. Reprisal. Reprisal. Somebody let me know. Feature in Bruce Willis. You heard all you say. I haven't seen it on 2K. Feature in Uncle Murder. Reprisal. Y'all can Google it. My set was on Netflix. Google it. Yeah, in the movie theater. Swat 2. You probably can't even Google Swat 2. Yeah, I went to the movie theater. I actually went to the movie theater with the family and watched that shit. I was pumped up. Like, I'm in the movie with Bruce Willis. Mr. Dihard, nigga. Paws. You crazy? I was in that shit. Benny Boom. And you with Benny Boom. Swat 2. That shit was supposed to be in Swat 1, motherfucker. You was with Bruce Willis. Come on, legend. Dihard. Legend, legend. I will say it is like being an actor as opposed to that is like I'll get to go somewhere and I'll get to live there for like, like if I go shoot a movie in Ireland or Italy, you get to live there for two months and like you're not staying in a hotel. They're getting you a house and you're, and you're walking up the street and you're getting, you know, getting your car or whatever and you're living there like you're from there. From there. You guys are in and out in a day. So I think that's kind of like the frozen guy. But the thing for me is I'm a movie guy and Murder Knows This. He knows I'm a heavy. He loves his movies. I'm a movie guy from like Back in the Days. Like I'll say people, I'll be like what movie Richard Pryor was in. I always ask Mike and nobody will know that I'll be like Superman 3. To me that was this breakout movie because Superman Back in the Days. Come on. Because to me TV back then, like it's more classical than kind of now. Like I'm not saying any classic movies or TV now, but The Godfather, Scarface, the list goes on. Well, it's all type of shit. I know what you're saying. Look, he laughed at me because I love Uncle Buck. That's one of my favorites. We had this conversation at my podcast. The crew has it. Hit podcast. Me and my granny, Jr. We had this conversation and you were saying that there weren't as many hits, but like you, there are, there are hits now, but like I get what you mean. They're classics to maybe you because you grew up with them. But like you think about like a Wolf of Wall Street or like, I don't know many movies that are as good as Wolf of Wall Street. And that's a classic to some of the young boys now and he right. That's like my classic. They shit. Like you can't tell them nothing about it. Okay. But some movies can never be done like you laughed at me about Scarface too. And about Uncle Buck, when you were writing about Uncle Buck, hold up. Because my nigga wears in a few people from the hood did so like your Merc, how you don't know about Uncle Buck. But then some people told me like, no, Uncle Buck wasn't like, it wasn't, but they said it wasn't a home alone. Right. But it wasn't a home alone. You can't compare that to a home alone. It wasn't a home alone. You can't compare Uncle Buck to a home alone. Just Macaulay Culkin was in it. That's it. And Uncle Buck came first. I'm a movie guy. He love Uncle Buck. He said you can't say anything about my family, but Uncle Buck is where I go. Look, I'm watching movies before I was born. Meaning like my favorite Sean Penn movie is Bad Boy. Yeah. Did he say he was watching movies before he was born? No, I'm watching movies that was out before I was born. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. No, before he was born, you mean? No, before I was born. How you was watching movies before you was born? No, I'm telling you. You're not listening what I'm saying. I watch. Am I bugging y'all? He's not listening. You got to listen to etiquette. I said I'm watching movies that was out before I was born. Oh, okay. Okay, okay. Okay, okay. Oh, no, it didn't. Did you know what I mean? We can rewind the tape. Rewind the tape. I said I watched movies. I've never been higher and not smoked in my life, but I'm good. That's him. You know the murdering game. Yo, listen. You know this guy. I got no etiquette when we go. Fuck, I didn't. I showed him what a salad fork was. Fuck, I didn't have you for that. It's my brother. But look. No, I'm not a tip you with what a salad fork is. Look, this is what I'm telling you. I like you. I like you. I like you. Look, you know. Yo, look. So what I'm saying to him is like, my favorite Sean Penn movie. You ain't probably watched. It's Bad Boy. I've not seen it. Yeah. You got to watch that one. When he's in jail, it's old school. He run over this gang members little brother. You know what I mean? These two dudes is wilding in the house doing extra stuff. And he get the cans because one scene could make it for me. Right. You know, I'm a TV guy. Michael Knight back in the days, the 18, just to me. That was classic TV. I said that to the 18s. Karate, Karate on Sundays. Bruce Lee. Fast. You know, look at Wu Tang. Like, you know, all at the Five Daily Venoms Wu Tang. All that come from like our era. Karate movies, as I said. So it's just classic TV. Like my favorite movie, The Mac. Richard Pryor was in that. Yeah. But that's one of my favorite actors, Richard Pryor, John Candy. Yeah, I don't know. I just think that there's unbelievable movies at both times. I don't think a time is better. Like people could be biased. It's not better than Scarface. You think about like even the comedies. I'm gonna stand up for your time. Fungus, fungus, fungus. You look at Hangover. Hangover is the best comedy movie ever made. Hangover and Tropic Thunder. You'll never beat those. No comedy movies. What comedy movie back then is beating them? Name one movie that's funnier than Tropic Thunder or Hangover. I mean, Hangover, it was good. I don't even know what the fuck Tropic Thunder is. You never seen Tropic Thunder? No. It's one of the greatest comedies of all. Yeah, Mr. Movie Man. Hang on. Tropic Thunder. No, I'm... Because hold on. You know, because what was the movie with Dave Chappelle? Take me to Samson. What was that? How high or Blue Streak? No, Dave Chappelle. Half-baked. Half-baked. Half-baked is better than that shit, bro. Take me to Samson when he had the weed deal. That's a classic for me. Dave Chappelle. I don't think... I don't think half-baked is Hangover or Hangover. Coming to America, there's so many classics that are better than the 80s than now. You're bugging. There's not gonna be another Scarface. There's not gonna be another Boys in the Hood, not a menace society. What? He called... He still called Mayor Tate fucking Old Dog. Yo, Old Dog, what up? That's what I'm telling you. He said Mayor Tate. He called it Mayor Tate. You said Mayor Tate. Who the fucking Mayor Tate? No, Count him and Tate. No, man. Count him and Tate. Count him and Tate. He said Mayor Tate. For power. Yeah, but yeah, the rent Tate. Count him and Tate. I know the rent Tate, motherfucker. But you say Count him and Tate. That's what I'm saying. Because we're talking about the show that he's owned. Count him and Tate. I just said, I just thought... That's my man. You had too much dog only, yo, brother. Count him and Tate. He called him because we... You know, we all... You know, Shiesty Townsend. You know what I mean? I don't know his name is no rent Tate. Yeah, that's great. It's a satisfying thing. Count him and Tate. Yeah. He said dinner calling him your Old Dog. Your Old Dog. I do still call him Old Dog. It's 30... I'm not gonna lie. What did menace society come out? Look at that. How many years ago? That was like, 90 what? 94? I still call my man Old Dog, man. How many years? 94? 30 years ago. He's still calling him Old Dog. Yeah, that's a fact. That's what I'm saying. All up to me, all the older movies are just more classical. Scarface, I watched a thousand times and like, Goodfellas, the list goes on and on. Now, I'm not saying Wolf of the Wall Street ain't good. But there's a lot of... Now, Wolf of the Wall Street is the classic. That's the classic. That's the classic. That's the classic. New classics. I'm just saying there's more classics that seem like... I think in 30 years, you'll call these movies now classics. And people will be like, oh, like, people will be calling someone from Twilight. They'll be calling Robert Pattinson, Edward in 30 years. Like, it's all relative to the time, I think. Bro, bro, let me explain some to you. No, I agree with you. Let me explain some to you. First Blood, Rambo, come on, bro. They ain't making shit like that. It might not... Did you see Rambo? What? You never watched First Blood? First Blood. You just said Project Hail Mary was one of the best movies you've ever seen. It came out 10 days ago. No, it was dope. No, that was dope. It came out 10 days ago. But now... Thank you. Thank you. No, that was dope. That's one of the best movies you've ever seen. Interstellar? They've never made something like Interstellar. The only reason why I liked it, because what? They took something from the 80s. It was the first friendly, the second, second friendly alien movie. But it's way better than ET. Is it not? Nah, you're bugging. I'm not gonna say that. It's way better than ET. Graphically wise, but ET is... Did you see the team, man? ET is a classic. I'm not gonna say that. It's good, but it's not anywhere near... Look, I'm gonna... Listen, I'm gonna say Project Hell married a graphics, like when he was shooting 1K and Money and Valance to that. You know what I mean? Yo, Money and Valance. I need all my Money and Valance niggas when y'all see this nigga. He be trying to sit on that shit, talking about that shit. So what are you saying? We made history, y'all. So what's up? We made history. So what you saying? He tried to act like I said what the profit was. I didn't say that. I said it was in 1K. It was in 1K. It was 1K. It did cool. Then the dudes had to fall out. The business was fucked up. Both shows were fucked up. You know what I mean? Shout out to them though. I love Money and Valance. But if that's the biggest movie role for them though, what I'm saying is... This is Mr. Swat 2. Hold up. Hold on. Don, we're gonna get off that. But graphically, yes. Project Hell married is... Come on. It's the graphics, AI, all the shit is new. Of course it looks better. But ET is kind of like almost the format. It was different, but still it was a friendly alien with your man. It was a friendly alien on ET. So every other alien movie, the alien is killing everybody. Come on, bro. I know my movies. But you can't tell me when... I won't give you that. You do know your movies. Yeah. When I watched First Blood and Stallone is all jacked up, and he's cut the fuck up, and he's beating motherfuckers in the precinct, and you know he's got the voice, and he getting shot with rocket launches, and to me it was just classic shit. That's another franchise one. Rainbow One, Two, and Three. Rest in Peace to Chuck Norris too. That's what I said. That's what I said. Legend. Then we go to Bruce Lee. Let's not talk about karate movies. We go to Bruce Lee and Chuck Norris. One of the best fight scenes ever on TV. Do you ever see that movie? Yeah. What's the name of that movie again? Because I watch all Bruce Lee shit into the dragon. That was fire. The Way of the Dragons. Because I always get it mixed up. Now what's the movie when Bruce Lee fought Kareem Adujaba? Y'all don't even know this stuff. I don't know that. See, y'all don't even know that. They don't even know movies. Game of Death. I remember. Classic. Rest in Peace to Bruce Lee. But Chuck Norris passed away, and you know what I've been doing? I've been on 2B all day watching, because they got like five Chuck Norris. He was on 2B trying to fight. You want to know what's crazy though? He was on 2B trying to fight, so why 2? It's not on there. It's not on there. No, he was on 2B trying to fight. It's cool. It's not on there. I haven't even seen it yet. It's not on there. The crazy about my generation is that I only knew who Chuck Norris was growing up because of Dodgeball. He had that one scene in Dodgeball. Wow, look at that. Sometimes I think of shit like that where I'm like, at the time, Steve McQueen was like the biggest. What the fuck is Dodgeball? You were like, I was thinking that too. No, there was a movie called Dodgeball 1 and 2, I think. Right? I don't think I've seen it. No, it's the first Dodgeball with Vince Vaughn. I think I have seen Dodgeball. One of the greatest comedies of all time. But what I'm saying is Chuck Norris, he got a fight scene with Bruce Lee, and they fighting this crazy. And you know Chuck Norris was like Karate Hero, Bruce Lee was Karate Hero, Rest in Peace to both of them. Legends, but that fight scene, people don't understand how serious that was for movies. Like they fighting, they fighting. You know, Chuck Norris had the taco meat on the chest, he had the hair, and Bruce Lee is, he get him. What the hell? He grabbed the hair off his chest and then he bloke. And like that fight scene, you gotta watch that movie. And then the other movie when he fought Karim Al-Dujibar, oh man, that was like classic TV. That was classic movie. Yo, I'm telling you. I watched all Chuck Norris movies, bro. Like I'm on 2B now, sheltered Netflix too. But you know, they talk about Netflix prices went up, but I'm like, we on mode 2B. Netflix prices did go up? That's what they said. Yeah. What shows are you guys watching now that you like, you have anything new that's come out in the past couple months? What I'm watching, I watched. You see Mobland? Mobland. I think Murder had me watching that. Yeah, Mobland is. I'm going for the second season to come out now, man. They come out too. I would love to be on that show. The second season they come out too, right? No, second season they come out. That shit is fire. Um, what's the movie? What's the thing with itriselba? Hijack. Hijack is fire. I like the first season. I didn't watch the second season. The second one is good too. I watched the second season. Besides that, I just go 2B. I go old school because they got Rambo, one, two, three up there. They got all the old movies. He's just not watching anything new. He's just watching Chuck Norris movies from the beginning. No, I love it, man. I love it. Chuck Norris passed away, so they got all his movies up there. So I just started watching all Chuck Norris movies and shit like that. You know, because it was classic TV for me. I'm not saying they ain't classics now, but you know, classic TV for me. What's your schedule like? What you doing? I'm chilling, bro. We're doing our podcast this week, so we're cool and probably, uh, you know, hit nicks, do all that, do the New York shit because I'm only here for a minute. I live in LA. But, um, yeah, dude, I mean, you pulled up on us. Like, I always, like, I remember shit like that. Like, we need, we, it was December. Everyone was home. Everyone was everywhere. And I was like, yeah, we need a guest pulled up on us, nothing. And now, you know, it's time to return the favor. Of course. And you guys are fucking killing it. Like, this isn't a favor for me to you. This is a favor for me. I'm coming on to plug my podcast. We appreciate you coming. 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