When Comments Hit Hard — And How to Ignore Them | Sadie Robertson Huff | Trey & Katie Kennedy

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Wednesday, I hope you're having a great week, but everyone it is about to get literally so much better because we have two incredible guests on the podcast today. My husband was geeking out and y'all know Christian, y'all know Christian doesn't really geek out over people, but he was like, I have to go introduce myself before I leave because we have a tray in Katie on the podcast today and we are so excited. I didn't even say your last name. A tray in Katie Kennedy. We're so stoked because let me just tell you, we have watched so many of your videos, tray. Christian and I forgot about this until this morning when I was watching so many videos to just prepare to have this conversation. I was like, I forgot that when Christian and I were early married at the end of the day, we would literally go to your YouTube page and watch videos like every night just to laugh. And it became like our theme. Wow. And I forgot about that because I was six years ago that we did that. Now we have kids and it's all crazy and whatnot. But like truly, you made us laugh so much and was like a bonding thing for us at the beginning of our marriage. So thank you and welcome to the podcast. Thank you. Glad to be here. That's super nice. Train Katie here. That's so happy to be here. It's great to hear. I get that a lot of the people. I don't know how to feel. People were like, we got, we just got married and we'd land bed. We'd watch it. I'm like, well, do people actually say that a lot? Yeah. Really do. That is super. You know, it's like the land bed on your phone, but it's just I don't know if I need to know the location. But that's super nice. It's so good to be here. Thanks for watching the videos. Well, the truth is I actually thought about this earlier today. I was like, I'm going to tell him that and I actually had this thought. I'm not going to say we laid in the bed and watched it. And I didn't even know people said, but I was like, I'm not going to say it because knowing you're a humor, I'm walking into that one. You know, like I'm walking into it. So that's what I was like when we were early at the end of the day, we would, you know, as if I was so hilarious that people actually say that. Oh, I'm so glad to have both of you on here about Y'all's life. Okay, this might come from LaField. If my team didn't prep you for the question, I ask everyone who comes on the World's Cup podcast. But we always start off the conversation with what's the best piece of advice you've ever been given? I know dramatic question, but I'd love to hear from the two of you some good advice I've gotten. That's great. No, they did warn us. We're ready. We're still here. We're prepared. I know. I love it. That's a good, this is a good Christian podcast. Any good Christian you talk to, they're like, hey, nice to meet you. What's your name? What's your, what's your, what's your real deep? No, let's go deep this is fair. In what's the best piece of advice you've ever been given in your life? All right, ladies first. Okay. Mine is from my mother Elizabeth Byram. She just growing up, this was a constant thread. It was just like, don't let what you can't control control you. Oh, that is good. And so I feel like that just has helped me throughout life, honestly, all the time. Like I feel like, trade probably is good. He probably gets that too. Like I just think things just kind of roll off me a lot easier. You're saying I need that? I'm just saying you probably seen that in my life. No, she is. I love to let stuff control me. It's like one of my hobbies. So she, she's a bit, yeah, I can't even believe it. We just did a road trip to my parents. We're at right now. It's like five plus hours. So we thought let's try. It's always been a disaster. Let's try the whole like late night after bedtime through the night. And our son just never slay just stay up till one or two year old. He's just like, we got in the car. 30 minutes in. He goes, I'm going to be awake for a long, long time. We were like, oh, he said that to us. Call the shop. He spoke it. And I was all that to say, I was ready to just like pull over somewhere. And Katie just, it's fine. She's like, he's a, he's never done that. She was just so patient. And she just, she's never done before. We didn't know how it's going to go. She was, she was super mom. That is awesome. So anyways, that's definitely my, I feel like it's, yeah, just really helped me to just don't let other people's bad things or other things just, you know, ruin your day. It's a game changer. I feel like if you're able to get to that place, man, you live such a more pleasant life. I was actually thinking about this because I did like, it asked me anything on Instagram the other day. And someone said, what are your non-negotiables in the morning? And I didn't respond, but I wanted to say don't have non-negotiables, because it's rarely does it ever go as planned, especially with us with three kids. Like if I was like every morning, I have to have this as in this, then my days would not go well. I had non-negotiables that had to happen for everything to go good or everything to be at peace. And I think, especially with kids, you learn what life doesn't go as planned most of the time. And you try to plan it right. I'm going to go at this window instead of going in the morning or I'm going to try to miss now time. We're going to do this. And then the kids say, actually, I'm never going to sleep because I'm going to stay up the whole time or someone throws up or someone, you know, it's like you can't control it. And if you can surrender that control, especially as a mom, it is a game changer for the rest of your life. So I love that so much. And love that it came from your mom too. That's awesome. Yes. She has five kids. So I feel like she probably had to learn that early. Oh, she did, too. Yeah, some advice comes from like, oh, I did this so well. I want to give this advice. But most advice comes from I had to learn this the hard way. And I'm giving this to you now so that you can learn it sooner than I did. Yes. Good. So, Trey, you got some good advice you want to hit us with? Yeah. Yeah, my best advice, I think, I've really been thinking about this recently. Best advice I've been given from my father. He would say something to the to the effect of, you know, be still doesn't always mean stop. Mm-hmm. And I think it's a bit like you're talking about having kids and all that. Like, be still. And like, yeah, I'm trying to walk with my faith and okay, I'm supposed to really sabbath and do that. You know, you have kids sabbath. I don't even know what that looks like anymore. I mean, they just never stops, right? But there's still, you know, we'd always talk about this first in Exodus 14, 14, believe. And it's like he said, be still. Trust the Lord, you need only to be still. And then the next verse says, now go. And kind of speaks to like, I don't know, my parents embody that. They never stop. They work so hard like all day through the week, then all weekend, being parents working. And but they always had this kind of calm about them. And something I'm working on where, you know, I can get too busy and too worked up. And I'm just finding that stillness in the like non-stop go of work and life and parenting. Yep. Is, um, has been a game changer. And something I'm working on. It's great. One of like my favorite life lessons was actually around this topic. So I used to drive out to our house, which is like 20 minutes from where I work. We live a little bit closer now, but we go out and it was in the country. So we passed some like really interesting places going out in the country. And there's this one sweet little trailer with two rocking chairs. And it's right across from the dollar general. And every day, every single day, my way home from work, because especially when the sun would get down, you know, little like at this time of the year, it's going down around five o'clock. So when I'd be driving, the sun's going down and this sweet old couple would sit on their rocking chairs outside their trailer and just look at the dollar general every night. It wasn't like they had like a beautiful view. It was like dollar general in the country. And I would just, I was so inspired by their love, like that their consistency of every night, being on those rocking chairs together. And I kept telling myself, I'm going to write them a letter. And I'm going to tell them that I love seeing their love and I love seeing them on the rocking chair every night. And it's inspiring me my marriage. And I had this intention for about a year and I never did it. And it was like, and it wasn't because I chickened out or I just simply as soon as I got home, got so busy doing so many things that I never wrote the letter. And then one day, I like started seeing some changes happen at their house. Like they had to put in like a wheelchair ramp and like all this different stuff. And then like very shortly after, there was an estate sale happening. And I was like, oh my gosh, like tell me like something did not happen to them. And immediately I'm like, I'd never wrote the letter. Like why did I not do that? Why don't I go over there? And so I like got the details for the estate sale and I was like, hey, well, this will be an opportunity to meet, you know, whoever's there. And so I go there the morning of the estate sale and like not seeing the old couple. And there's this probably, you know, middle-aged woman. And they're kind of running it. And I was like, hey, like I just was wondering about the owners of this home. And she was like, oh, those are my parents. And she said they actually just passed away within a month of each other. And I was like, oh my gosh, wow. And she said, yeah, they just had like the most beautiful love. It was one of those stories of like kind of died of or like a broken heart. But they were like together and everything. And I said, well, I just want you to know as their daughter. I pass them every single night. And just how they set on that, you know, porch and their little rocking chairs. It meant so much to me that I always wish I would have wrote them a letter. And I never, never regret that so much. But I'm glad I can now tell you as their daughter, like how much that meant to me to just see how they took that time every day. And so I was like, I want to like buy something and just to kind of remember this moment and this lesson and bless you all in some way. And what I ended up buying was like a little plug they had in their house. And it's all about being still. And actually in the kind of plug that it says, never get too busy to stop and take two minute long vacations. And I thought that was like such a good phrasing like to take two minute long vacations because so often we do think like, okay, to take a vacation so much planning has to go involved. You have to like pause everything has to be that dramatic shift, pack all the bags, do other things. But like making it a habit to have like small moments of Sabbath, small moments of vacation, small moments like step outside the porch and look at the sun's setting or like wake up early in the morning and see the sun rising and like taking those moments to be still so intentional. And so I love that you shared that because I haven't talked about that story in a long time and it was like so pivotal for me. That's cool. What do you got that plug? Where's it? I have it. I should have it in the studio so I can show everybody. I had it in my car for a long time because the whole thing for me was I was annoyed at myself that I actually wanted to do that. But when I would get to where I was going, I would get distracted. So how did my cars are a reminder like don't just get to where I'm going and like go into it like kind of like go in with intention places. But now it's in our it's actually my closet. And so I'm going to bring that one day. I need to take a picture or something and post it since I told this story. But that was so significant to me. But I love that you both the eyes start in this off on like the best page ever. But I want to know about y'all's love story, how y'all met all the things. So so Katie tell us a little bit about how you and Tray met. I remember whenever we started low and I had all the what is, what if I fail, what if it isn't where I need to be. And looking back I can see so clearly that God had his hand in the whole thing. 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Sign up for your $1 per month trial today at Shopify.com slash woe. Go to Shopify.com slash woe again that Shopify.com slash woe. He um slid into my DMs. Okay. Hey Christian did the same thing. Yeah. So um we you know it was one of those I didn't have a following and um he he definitely had a following by then but I didn't know who he was. I was kidding. I was a good fan. So it was it felt so random but I was like we were liking my posts for sex months. I didn't know who you were. I was at following him. Um I thought like someone had set us up right. I thought someone was like hey you should check this girl out. I know her whatever because it just felt too random. Um and so I replied and yeah we just kind of that's only reason to worry. But Paul is when you saw he followed you you didn't know who he was. He totally had to stock his Instagram. Do you think he would I mean this might be you might be honest but also like he's your spouse. Did you think he was funny? Like were you like it what you were saying? I did. I was like okay this guy seems funny. He's cute. He yeah there was you know clearly a Christian element to a stuff um and so yeah so then I was like okay I'll respond um and so yeah it was kind of just like very innocent. Just followed each other for a little bit. We struck up some more conversation via DMs and I think quickly we were kind of like okay we need to get off Instagram. Let's like you know here's my number and I feel like we very quickly we're kind of like all right we're not just going to do this weird like let's message each other like we either need to meet or we're not going to do this um and so very quickly we like FaceTime just to make sure that you know we could talk for a while and it wasn't weird um and then he was um traveling I lived in Atlanta at the time he was in Kansas City and he was traveling and he said you know and I'm gonna change my return flight and I'm not gonna fly home I'm gonna fly to Atlanta and we're gonna go out on the date um so he did that. He's like I had another meeting there or something yeah yeah he looks like he's like another thing. He's for sure. He's for me. He's for me. Um it's awesome. And yeah we went out that night and he came back like two weeks later and I feel like it was just kind of like yep I think this is that is it. Yeah it's wild. As if in the same way we would definitely do you all feel like you all agree on the story because it's always funny whenever like someone's sharing a story and the other presence like that is not the way that it happened. Yeah we do we do it's yeah I don't know it's wild you know I feel like my job and my marriage it's all based on me like making some wild choices just like going for it making weird content and getting on a flight for a woman I remember I remember landing in Atlanta and just thinking like the there wasn't this moment of like wow the Lord is really this could be me and my wife it was like this is rock bottom I think I think you know I don't need to be did my this single like I people back home you know my mother I was 24 she's like are you gonna die alone and I was like I got a hurt I was getting my head so here I'm 27 and single I go I go if this if this is like a dud or if this role stands me up or something I'm not gonna tell it I'm gonna take this to the great I'm just gonna get back on my flight tomorrow and just act like it didn't happen more people need that though I call that delusional confidence in the best way I always say everybody needs delusional confidence like everyone needs to have something like this is kind of crazy but I'm gonna go for it because if you don't have that like look what never happens and so many people are over there hiding the DM still or you know never pursuing somebody but like you gotta get on the flight you gotta make the call you gotta do the FaceTime show up for the date like that's how this happens so I love it yeah it is and I you know we bonded a lot over that because she was she was doing like traditional modeling and she'd went and got this like engineering degree so like everyone thought she was a lunatic like why aren't you going why'd you work for all that if you're not gonna and I had come from business school and I was making videos like in my apartment and we bonded over that like we were kind of you know and that being there at all was proof that we both kind of like taken risk or making off off the beaten path decisions and but we hit us we just hit it off immediately and it was kind of like that we just knew the first night we didn't say it we weren't we didn't go that intense but in hindsight we were just like it was always easy it just made sense we kind of knew same we found our our spouse yeah that's how it was for us like someone asked Christian like how did you know she was the one and he was like I don't know that I had this moment where I was like you know at the beginning where it's like oh this is my wife he's like but I never thought about again I couldn't think about us not being together like it was so easy it was so natural and it was like why would I not want to talk to her tomorrow why would I not want to you know go in the next date like never had that moment and then it was like oh man like we have fallen in love with each other like it happened so naturally and I do feel like a lot of times that is the way it is when it is the one it just feels like effortless in a way not that in that sounds contradicting because like the effort is obviously you flew there you make effort but effort listen like we can just talk for hours and I'm not overthinking it I'm not second guessing like we're just in this we enjoy each other's company and I love that it's kind of funny Christian and I also he sent a DM but I never saw the DM it's so it's a little bit of a different story for like a year and a half later but in the meantime from the time he sent me the the DM and when we met he met my sister and they had gotten like kind of close and it was so funny because one day I had this separate Instagram account that I posted all my ridiculous stuff on like just being totally dumb and I guess it's not comedy okay it was just it was people were probably laughing at me not with me but it was really funny because Christian saw that with my sister and he goes that's just not funny so that's why I was like did you think he was funny because hey Christian was I thought he were cute but I was like you're crazy but he respected the confidence okay so it goes back it goes back to that um right well I love y'all's story it's so sweet um I love how you said so I didn't know you got your business degree and you started making videos try how it did all of your career originally start for you and when did it start to take off was it an overnight thing or was it like a lot of seeds being some yeah yes and out to initially start it was like a little overnight it was vine that app was big when I was in college so I was kind of right when it came out I got on it with somebody isn't it was this it's just crazy to think about but back then you it going viral hardly even existed yet like YouTube is out kind of but I remember making this video and it kind of I opened my thing up and I had like four thousand followers which at the time like no I remember everyone thought this is this is mind blowing like no one no one who's not famous has followers and then I just kind of get got into it I made this one video that like took me to a million followers in like a month and what was it it was I was doing the WAP remember that oh yeah it's very 2013 I was doing the WAP while I was cleaning the kitchen and it was groundbreaking comedy at the time and a lot of people agreed it got a bajillion views and I hey yeah it just million followers and I kind of then you make a little bit of money and I always viewed it as like a funny story one day like this isn't a job this isn't a career yeah I'm making some money off this but let me finish my degree and go get a nine to five like I'm supposed to do and you know social media grows vine goes away I keep making videos I'm able to go viral a couple more times and get some followers on Instagram and Facebook and suddenly I'm paying the bills and I kind of go well let's just see how long this lasts and you know that was 10 years ago so it's led to one thing after another and that's awesome. Grateful I was there early because now now being an influencer creator whatever is like kind of cool or people want to do it but I was in college like getting bullied. Yeah so yeah yeah yeah yeah I was cool I'll never people people they always have stories like oh guys your haters online you'll never have a hate or come up to you in real life all right they don't they're well in 2013 they were out here because they were there I'd be like grabbing a hot dog in the college strip and I there's like a whole crowd I was like look guys it's vine or tray Kennedy and like 20 people left it's like out of a cartoon or something I have similar stories because yeah when you put yourself out there and now it's like a lot of people for themselves out there so it's like not as big of a deal back then like to put yourself out there like that it definitely like I remember my grandpa telling me if you're holding the football you're gonna get tackled like it's just that's just a life lesson like and now it's not quite as big as people do kind of hype on their computer but yeah I remember the first time I wore a live original t-shirt my sister made for me so now you know people like know about live original then no one did and I was just believing in what God put on my heart and someone it was my senior year of high school and she looked at me she said live original that's embarrassing and I just remember feeling like oh my gosh I feel so tiny right now yeah yeah it was like sweet heart bless your heart kind of comment and it was like my rock bottom moments was merch was I remember in college this company is like you got to make merch and I remember wanting to do it but I delayed it so I'm like I'm gonna I can't I can't I'm gonna get I'm just gonna get roasted I said you know what that's not yeah let's do it and I I mean that the next night I could hardly go in public people like you released merch so yeah yeah yeah we ever on Yickeak no what is that oh it was bad I guess you because how old are you I am 28 I had to think about that your fears younger okay so you missed Yickeak was being called so you're you're probably not you're a couple years away it was like it went away because it was horrible the meanest yeah it was anonymous post it was like a localized anonymous thing so you could just you could just be like you could just anonymously be like Sadie's wearing liver liver originally which would a loser and it would be like top post top post people could like down or up it and so it could just get higher and higher you know and that's you know I was I was driving a lot of engagement on the spends I don't want to know similar to like Reddit I'm like I'll never look myself on these kind of platforms I don't want to know a people are saying I don't need to know because it's not is not yet a shape who I am or what I'm doing. 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This is maybe think of this. So John Chris was on a podcast this past year. I know y'all are good buddies. And he actually was one of the top five podcast of the year shout out. But one of his best piece of advice was so good. He's somehow his comedy. And he said, the best piece of advice is like, I gotta say the truest version of myself. And if I start telling jokes for the algorithm or for people to think I'm funny, then I'm done. And I thought that was really good. Cause it really is hard sometimes. Like if you start feeding an algorithm or trying to feed what people like or appreciate about you, it can, you don't realize it, but slowly you're like, all of a sudden putting something out there that's actually not even you, then you have to keep up with an image you created and it is exhausting. And so it's much better to just be confident in what you're putting out there who you are. And maybe some of those haters coming up to us in person gave us thicker skin for the long run. Probably. Oh, easily. I mean, I do, that's a cool byproduct of all this of like basically humiliating myself for a decade now is I, I feel like a superhuman. Like I don't get embarrassed about it. I grew up so shy and so worried about what other people thought. And now you gotta go through it, right? And you come out the other side and you're like, oh, it's fine. Okay. And a good way and a bad way. Like you kind of realize people's opinions that are negative don't matter and also that are positive kind of don't matter. They don't know us, you know, we're talking right now. I'm enjoying this. This is the first time we've chatted. I don't, you know, like everyone's gonna be like, your marriage is great. It could be horrible. It could be horrible. It's not as great. It's not. But, you know, it's, you kind of just realize like, I'm just out here trying to do my best to entertain people, be myself, be ourselves. And behind closed doors, like we just gotta try to love on our family and friends and matters what they think of us. It's true. It's like, it's a relief when you have that. I mean, I had to learn this. I mean, I had a little bit of it when I was like doing modeling, obviously, the comments about me, but the first time I like went on Tray's podcast and the comments that were on that, I like wasn't quite prepared for that yet, you know? And usually all of his stuff is very positive things on his feed, but there's like one comment that was like, it's really- I press, I don't read the comments. Just- Of course, I did. I'm a little bit like a dumbass. And it was like- You're new to this. So mean, it was like someone said, like it's very clear he emotionally abuses her. Yeah, wow, he's hitting her for sure. You know, stuff- I called him, I wasn't even with him, I called him, I was like, oh my gosh, what happened on the podcast? It was so sweet. I don't want people thinking this about you. I don't want people to think this about you forever. And it's like, I've grown past that, but man, that first time I was like, oh my gosh. Oh yeah. Every time Christian is on my podcast and he's on the podcast all the time, because we do so much together and he really is like not in a cheesy way, but we are best friends. Like if we wanted to do a podcast, we're just gonna do a podcast together. And we have such a great time. And we'll walk away and be like, that was awesome, that was so fun. And the comments are like, he's so mean to her, the way he put her down that whole time. She like, we feel bad for Sadie, all this stuff. And I mean, it's crazy. And then vice versa, they'll be like, Sadie talks over him so much, it's so annoying, let him speak, let him have his own voice, blah, blah. And it was funny, because after that, I said to Christian, I said, babe, I am so sorry. Like I was looking at some of the comments and so many people were talking about how I talk over you. And I just wanna say, I'm so sorry that I do that. I've never realized how much you did that, so I'll listen to that. And he said, I've never thought about it. Like I don't think you talk, or he's like, you like to talk, I've known that since we met. You talk a lot. Who's all his brother counts? He talks to you. Oh, that's me. He's like, you talk a lot. I know that about you. I don't, sometimes I need you to fill in the synapse. And like they don't know that it's our dynamic. And then I'm like, and when you make fun of me, I think it's funny, because I'm from a family who roasts each other. So that does not put me down. I actually think it's really fun and funny. So it is true though, that like with the comments, even like you cannot let them hold weight, because it'll even like make you question your relationship or how it's like, oh, are we healthy? Is this wrong? But it's like, no, you can't even go there. But I love what you said about how like at this point, you feel like a superhero, you're like, you can't say something that's going to offend me or going to change me. And I was thinking about that. There's a thing called like survivor's confidence. And you see it in people like Bethany Hamilton, like she literally got bit by a shark. And I have another friend who got bit by a shark, Lulu Grubin, she is an amazing person. And then both of them are like in the water so much there, doing all this stuff in the water. And you're like, how could you do that? How could you go back in the water? Because like that's like a fear for everyone. And it like makes us not want to go in water. And you actually did it, but it's like survivor's confidence. Once you get through something, you're more confident. Twice. Yes. That's true, dude. What are we on? But on a deal, I'm going to say. Also, one of the odds of you have two friends been to my sharks. That's you're the only person that planned out. I have to say I met both of them after they get bit by my sharks because of how they used it for good. You know, like Bethany, I met her well after she got bit by a shark because her platform grew. I met Lulu because her platform grew. And I reached out to her. I was like, girl, you are amazing. You know, and it's like I had read that thing about survivor's confidence before that. But when I look at them, I'm like, oh, I get it now. Like your Lulu has this holy swim suit line. While she's like in the water that the same beach that she got bit by, how could you do that? But like that survivor's comment is, it's shown up to the same platform that ripped you apart yesterday and posting a new video and being like, hey, y'all think this one's funny? Like, I'm not going to quit because you didn't like the last one. I'm not going to quit because I got roasted. And speaking to that, you didn't quit because I know y'all do a podcast together, which by the way, is such a good concept. There's so many podcasts out there and it's like trying to find, you know, what your thing is. I love y'all. Tell us a little bit about Y'all's podcast. Thanks. Correct opinions, what it's called. So every week we give our correct opinion, our little hot takes on stuff, anything and everything. It's always been a still lighthearted comedy podcast about nothing. And it's been going like six years now. It started with just me and that I brought on my buddy, Jake, who's a comedian, he's hilarious. And then Katie would pop on every now and then and people loved it. So then she came on permanently. So it's the three of us. So you've been doing it like two years now. Over two years. It's awesome. It's really cool to really grab for that we can do together because she's so busy being mom and doing all her stuff. So it's nice to have a little moment where we can chat and laugh and like, heard a lot of value to what our family's doing. And yeah, we have great, great fan base. They've been with us for years. And it's just fun. It's this podcast or the best. They are the best. Correct opinions. Correct opinions. It's such a funny concept. And speaking of correct opinions, because I did just see you dancing with the stars video. It made me laugh. So hard. That was the best accurate. Oh, yeah. You were on it, right? I was on it. And we were, we actually went to the show last week. And then it was the next day you posted. We were cracking it. We're like, this is the most accurate thing. And the way you so full-scented, like every detail of it was so incredibly accurate. It was so good. But I have to ask, are you all actually watching Dancing with the Stars right now? We've watched some of it. Yeah, we can't say that we've watched every one. We watched some of it. We watched some of it. You know, kids are hard to watch things. It is. I grew up watching my mother die hard. Okay. So she doesn't usually reach out. Yeah. But she's like, try I love the Dance with the Stars video. She, so I would watch it with her back in the day a bit. And then, you know, it's just been busy. But now it's, you know, they've kind of, it's popping again. They've got this thing. I mean, it's always been popular. But now it's like, it's really feels like it's, you know, viral again. It's been everywhere. Yeah, TikTok and it's like any good crater. I had to mooch off that a little bit. I said, let's make a sketch about it. Which required me to watch it, which then had me like, I was like, let me watch 30 minutes of this get, get a vibe. And then I was like, they voted him out, you know, and then I was, so you kind of get, you kind of get locked in. So the finals, I don't know if this is coming out. We just, I just saw who's going to the finals. A little disappointed. But I know it was a little, it was a little crazy. Hey, for those who are listening, this is just going to have to be a spoiler alert because we just have to talk about it. I was, I was a little disappointed. So Mark was actually my partner. And so of course, cheering for Mark who got out last night with Whitney. But the thing with Mark is like his choreography is just so amazing. It's like sometimes you just want like the dancer to go to the end just so you get to see their freestyle choreography. But anyways, judging based off what you'll have, what who is Y'all's winner if you know who's on the show. Oh, Katie, she doesn't know. She doesn't know, she really doesn't know anything about the outside world. And this is a problem we're trying to figure out. It's really amazing. I know that might sound surprising because I'm sitting here talking about dance with our source. But when they release the cast this year, I go, this is like the worst guys. I don't know any of these people. And then I looked at the comments and everyone was like, this is the best cast. Jens, it was just ever had this amazing cast. And then I was like talking to my friends about they're like, how do you not know Alex Oral? How do you not know? How do you not know? And I'm like, I have three children watching. Watch on the right. Yes. We're on that. So I actually get that. I do happen to know about dance with the stars right now, but I definitely feel like I do not know so much. We were in the store another day and a Sabrina Carpenter song came on. And my sister was like, oh, the song. And I was like, I think this is the first. I do know how that is. I think it was the first Sabrina Carpenter song I've heard. She was like, how? I'm like, when would I listen to Sabrina Carpenter? You know, right now. And so you're like, listen, no wheels on the bus. Exactly. You're like, I got all those locked down. But yeah, play list that honey is asking for every time we get in the car. And it's just better. We listen to that. So that's just funny. I get that. Yeah. I think Alex Earl's going to win. You do? Is that a correct opinion? That's right. It's a correct opinion. I just think she's improved a lot. And she's really, I think people on her ass that she's got a big, she got quite the fan base. She does. They're ready for her. Well, I respect that. I think you could be right. I'm going Robert and Whitney. I think Robert is like the nicest human on the planet. And we got to meet him in Las Vegas. And he was just as kind and nice in person. But I do agree that Alex has had like, she's grown a lot and the dance with the stars fan base loves a good like journey story. So I could see that happening too. I can see that happening. I love it. Okay, y'all. Let's talk about something that can totally change your day. A good night's sleep. You already know I'm a helix fan because it's legit. The best mattress we've ever had. 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And so I started kind of doing some modeling in college. I was in it land. I went to Georgia Tech. And so, you know, just here in the air randomly and I kind of was like kind of similar to tray story of like, I was just kind of like, I'm just going to do this on the side. This is fun. And then I graduated and I was like, you know what? I think I'm just going to try to do this for a little bit. You know, there was the aspect of it was obviously fun. It like really felt like a challenge trying to kind of like make it in this industry. And there was like, also a side of, I knew I was going to make a little older going into it because I was already 23. And I loved kind of like being with those younger girls and like kind of getting time to like, I don't know, just talk with them and, you know, maybe witness to them, you know, if that came up right or just, you know, be hopefully like a good influence, a big sister kind of, you know, obviously that wasn't the case every time. But I do feel like I had some really cool moments throughout. I did it for five years that well, that's cool because the stereotype is true. There was like a lot of, you told me a ton of stories like 16 year old girls where you're like, what's going on in your life? What do you do? Yeah, you know, I feel like this is true. You know, not to make like a huge generalization. Everyone had, you know, everyone was doing their own thing. But there are definitely cases where, you know, girls thought that was kind of like their only option or, you know, I met some girls that were like supporting their families. You know, there was just a whole array of things going on. And it was cool just to be in that. I knew that I had a degree that I could go get a job with and just, so encouraging things like that and just being a girl with them. Yeah, I love that. I love that so much because I did a little bit in the modeling and it was a tough environment. It's definitely a tough culture like most of the people that I was surrounded by like, we're not eating and they were, you know, doing a lot of things that weren't great for their body because obviously like to fit the standard, you really can't eat a lot and you can't do a lot. And I remember we were doing our fittings one time. I was asked to do this runway show because I was like from a family who was well-known. It was more like a celebrity appearance, not necessarily like one of the models. And I just remember this guy. So we were doing all of our dress fittings and the sizes are tiny back there. It is like double zero everything. Everything is just tiny. And I was like not in the tiniest one and all the other ones were in the double zeroes but then also having to get tailored to be smaller because their body was so small. And then I put on a more normal size and the person said, oh wow, yours is the only one that actually fits. And I thought that was really interesting because they said yours is the one that actually fits but like the standard for what they had to be as models was smaller than what the actual dress was made to fit or to work. And then later on in that situation the photographer said, oh, if you'd lose 10 pounds, you'd look like a real model. So my dress fit but he said if you lose 10 pounds, you would look like a real model. And then another person, two different people grabbed the piece of I guess what they would call fat on my skin and was like, oh, if we could just like, what was that? It was like, so two people like, hey, if you could adjust your body to be smaller, you'd look like a real model. Can you do that to me on our wedding day? See, is it in that rude and that the worst feeling when it's on grabs your eyes? Sorry, I'm not a model. It's just skin. You're like, I'm falling for me. But it's like, that is so messed up because then girls are seeing, you know, that dress online in that model and going like, if I could just be her size, but that size isn't even fit. It's not realistic. It's not healthy. That girl is not eating on the other side. Not everybody, everybody's body is different. Some people just fine and just are naturally that small. But generally, you're having to do some tough things to remain that size in an industry that's putting completely unrealistic expectations on the girls. And in return, it's putting completely unrealistic on the people who are looking at the images. So it's really hard. I mean, I feel like I have so much empathy just for every girl out there to, you know, who struggles with insecurity because it is a hard thing to overcome. You got to kind of dig deep in. We have, you know, primarily girls listening to this podcast, although, Tray, we are so glad you're here. Christian braves it too often. But like, people, you are, okay, you're a fall girl. The girl pumpkin spice latte. These are your people. I forgot about that. You can hang with the girls. Let's do girl talk. Okay, let's talk about body insecurity for a second. For real though. Katie, how did you want to talk? Maybe I should ask Tray about how he overcame his body insecurity first. Tray, do you have any of that? You know, I do have probably a lot more than her. We'll go on with it. I know. I feel like my pecs are different sizes. I'm always like, is it lopsided? She's like, you look great. My husband. It's all as pumpkin spice latte. You're drinking. They want it. Yeah. I'm going to show you a joke for sure. You need a joke. Oh my gosh. Okay. Now I'm going to, like, maybe actually speak to those. Although that was really, thank you for your vulnerability. But, um, yes, good job. Katie, how did you ever struggle with that? How did you overcome it? How did you get to the place of maybe you're at now as a mom? Is it changed you all the things? I mean, I feel like that's such a journey. Sometimes it's like I asked people that question there. I'm actually still in it. And that's okay too. Full freedom to just share where you're at. I think that it really helped that I went into it as a 23 year old. I was a believer and kind of already knew who I was as a person. I feel like. And so I think that was a big aspect of it that I kind of, I felt secure. I was just going to put out a Georgia Tech. And there's only, I think, like, nine girls have ever attended that school. So, like, she was getting a lot of attention, a lot of confidence. And it's actually really a lot of girls there. That is true. My brother had a lot of play baseball at Georgia Tech. So we spent a lot of the time at Georgia Tech. So, um, yes, that's awesome. Respect. Yeah, for those of us, no, it's, it's like the best engineering school in the country. So you got a lot of, it tends to be a dude interest. Yes. Yes. A lot of guys there. So yeah, I think I already had my identity, um, which really helped going into it. I also really helped like eating healthy and fitness, but is also like, I love those things. And so for me, it was like trying to show people or help people like, do it. Stay healthy and stay fit. Not, you know, not for like other reasons, but just like to take care of their bodies. Not starting themselves. Right. Yeah. I was eating. I, you know, I mean, I, yeah, I was, I was putting down a lot of ice cream, but I like want, you know, and so I think, obviously I had my moments too where people said stuff to me and, um, you know, where I wasn't booking a job that I wanted or whatever, but I think that like what would they say? Another ice cream big back. I had, I had an agent, I had an agent say like something to the effect. Like, you know, I, I know the guys love your backside, but you got to lose it or something. And I was like, oh my gosh. It's shocking. People really do say that kind of stuff. Like I showed up for a no makeup photo shoot one time. It was supposed to be like branded as like natural beauty all of a sudden. And I was feeling actually confident for that. I was excited. I'm all about live original. Let's do this. Literally, when I show up, they go, she just doesn't have the face for no makeup. Let's just make it look like she has no makeup on. And send me the hair makeup to make it look like I didn't have makeup on. I was so annoyed because I was like, this is the problem with the world is that now people think which I'm honest and I'm just like, hey, I had makeup on. But people would be like, oh, wow. How does she look like that when she doesn't have makeup on? I was like, well, actually, I don't because they would not put that out there. No, I do think that the world's gotten better now than it used to be. I think like so much more inclusive, so much more. She keys. And yeah, so it's like people are just showing the real side of the month's social media. And people are pretty open about if they're not. I cannot. I'm like, so let's go. Let's go. It's actually making me laugh. But she goes natural, right? She does. She does go natural. Good job. It's true. It's definitely becoming more of a thing which I appreciate so much. But girls definitely, I mean, it's just a struggle for everybody and not just girls for guys too. Obviously, Christian actually really does talk about that a lot. He's like, hey, this is not just a girl struggling. You got to find inner confidence as a guy too. And there's all kinds of stuff with that. Well, tell Christian. He said, hi, tell me he's looking particularly beefy today. I will pass the note along. He'll appreciate that. I thought I genuinely thought that. I really will tell that is so funny. I do want to ask you about all your different takes, trade on different people that you played. Like the fall girl always look forward to seeing the video and the fall and what that's going to be. And then Christian's favorite. I think you call yourself Maddix when you're the middle school. Am I right on that? Yeah. He loves the Maddix middle school or like, when did you still like, whenever you get on something, how do you know when it's like, oh, do you know this is going to hit and this is going to become a reoccurring thing? Or do you kind of let the people decide that? No, you, I, it's like, you still never know. I think that's what's like fun and furated about. I'm sure you know, content and specifically comedy is just like, I posted something the other day where I was like, oh, we kind of threw this together. I hope people like it. And it was like the most successful video we've put out all year. And then, you know, the another video you put so much into, like, I can't wait to post this. You're like, oh, I guess this wasn't as popular as I thought it would be. And it's like the middle school character, I, that was a video truly I threw together kind of like, what am I doing? And I posted it in a 50 million views later. I was like, okay, I guess I'll give the people a little more than that, a little more of that. Another bunch of views and then you kind of keeps building into this whole character. So I've had a few really grow into this trend or character. I've just, I'm always just going off of my experience. So like middle school, Maddox was just based off of how I remembered I acted as a 12 year old. And apparently that resonated with people. And, you know, the basic girl that's now kind of evolved into like my wife skits, you know, and a very exaggerated version of Katie or the other women in my life. Like, just playing off of what all of us are experiencing every day, normal life and trying to make it funny. And, yeah, I never really know how people are going to respond until they respond. And if they love it, you know, I'm happy to give them more of it. But, but like you said, too, I, you have to mix in kind of, there's certain characters and bits I've put to bed simply because I'm like, I don't want to do this anymore. I'm sorry. I can't. It's dry. I did, you know, I used to like do these scene in the car videos. I just parked my car somewhere and scream and nearly pass out. And like I was like, I just can't do this anymore. All right. My neighbors are looking. I'm losing my voice. And so it's always a mixture of that. But it's good. Yeah, you never know. But it's fun to I, I'm just grateful I've been able to find a few things to kind of make this a living. And I just, I love that people love it. So it's great. It's really great. It's fun to follow along. And yeah, I think that that's the, that's the thing about being confident in who you are and allowing yourself to change, even whenever people don't want you to change. Because you know, people will hold you to see that like, oh, that's what we like. That's what you like. And it's like, especially with longevity and social media, like you're going to change. And you have to be okay with that. And sometimes I feel like the tension is like, oh, what if they don't like this new version of me or this thing. But it's, that's who you are. So that's what you show. And so I think for me, I mean, I started my social media when I was like 16, I guess, my team was my platform to our growing and I'm 28, it's just 12 years, you know, I mean, when I started this, I was in high school. And now I have three kids, Mary, like, of course, I'm going to change. And you know, I think sometimes people, yeah, like I said, that you're comparing yourself to who you were or to a bit you did or to a thing. And it's like, you gotta let that go. And because you never know what's going to come out of this new thing, how I love it. So like the basic girl, it became like my wife's kids, you know, like kind of morphs into this new version and this new thing. I think it's beautiful. Um, y'all are awesome. Well, they're such an incredible couple. I feel like time has begun to kind of fly by and you might have answered this in a little bit, but kind of what I want to end on. And this is a very, uh, Christian question, I guess I should say. It's like, what's your why? But no, really, like you guys are parades. I feel like whenever you become like, when you become a parent, you really do have to feel like, okay, especially you, you might like relate to this where it's like, okay, I want to be home. My kids, but I also want to do these other things like I'm going to do this podcast. Like your time matters, you know, what you're doing with your life matters. Like you want to have purpose behind it. Um, what do you feel like as a couple like, why do you do it? You do, why do you post the videos? Why do you do the podcast? What's the, what's the, uh, in goal or the, the deeper meaning in it, all for you? Uh, you want me to go first? I, you know, I guess like I started making these videos for I met Katie and the and she. But it was, I'd really done it for a living for like a year, maybe two before we really kind of became a couple. And so she's really been in the whole thing. She was, she was there my very first time like doing stand up, which is turned into this other part of my career. And she, she was there for, you know, the first podcast episode. She's, she's been involved in all of it. And I think I've always had this pretty forward thinking vision of like, all right, I never, never, ever thought I'd be doing anything like this. Never thought I'd be making money doing this. Uh, and it took a few years, but I started to believe like I, I think I could be doing this for a while. Maybe this is my life's career. It's just being funny in some way, shape or form like just trying to do that. I was raised to just do, do my best because what, what God's given me and, um, it's just how it all came together. Like she was, we both had jobs that were flexible. So we could date long distance. And then, um, I started going on tour. We don't want to be a part. And so she, she was able to work a couple of years at like a nine to five that made sense before she quit and helped me on the road when he got pregnant and just seeing God kind of guide at all. It's cool. And, and really, I think that's all it is. It's just trying to, I always repeat this prayer before you on stage or a big moment, like, you know, more of him less of me, John 330. And that's kind of paradoxical. But just the focus of as I self remote constantly and I'm kind of like, give me a, take you, give me a, take you, give me a ticket. So I do love it. I, I just want it to hopefully feel like we're normal folks just trying to our best, um, do just put one front for the other where, where God's leading us and, and try to provide for our family and love our family and our, our circle. So, um, the wise is really think we're a family that we just repeat. We try to do our best. And if, if all my socials get deleted tomorrow, then we'll do with that move on or, if, if God wants to say another reaction, we'll, we'll do that. But just great. I would love that. I would may add into just that. Yeah, I think we both have the mindset. Obviously he's been given such a great gift of like just bringing a lot of people joy and like that's something we all need, you know, I think that the, why of like bringing people laughter, happiness, maybe like not take things so seriously. And in return, you know, we've been given the gift of being able to just like love our people well and, um, yeah, just do for, yeah, just hopefully create a great community and, um, host and bring people together. And I think that's a great, we really like to push that as a couple to awesome. Y'all just said you good job at that. It's so cool. Like when you ask people, they're why normally they're why is really obvious and the way that they live their life. It should be, you know, it should be like, I can probably guess it because of the way that you all do things so intentionally. And you can see that they're all that y'all do. And I love how, you know, you guys give the gift of laughter and give the gift to joy. I always feel like when I go on social media, like from a person posting, I'm like, I want to go to social media not to take something, but to give something like, I hope that I give something to someone as they're scrolling through their feed today, whether that be like a smile or a piece of advice or, and not every post has to be like so deeper, meaningful, but you know what I mean? Like I don't want to take away. I want to give. And so I think like for you guys, like putting out so much content, like to make people laugh to find something relatable, like, oh, you have a middle school right now or you are a middle school and laugh at yourself. You're a basic white, you're out laugh. And also teaching people like not to be so sensitive. I think that our world is like so sensitive, you know, and I love how you guys as a couple, even how you said earlier, people are like, oh, you roast her or whatever. It's so hard, but it's like actually it shows a lot of confidence and a couple that you're sitting there laughing. I saw one video y'all did. It was like a short form. It was what did they call them on YouTube, the shorts, like short reels or whatever. Sure. Yeah. And you said like, what's up, South Squad? You're like, hey, little man. And it's like, actually, people need to see that you can just laugh, you know, like, that's funny. Don't take yourself to serious. It's fine. That's our family's like big thing, especially with our show with Doug, Diana, see that was like, I think I don't want to take yourself to seriously, like be able to laugh at yourself. And my uncle's size, like everyone's favorite, everyone loves uncle's size. And it's because there's no one like uncle's size. He does not take himself to seriously. And he just like rocked his authenticity, like it was like epic. And it taught us all like, hey, don't take yourself to seriously and like, and you guys are giving people the gift of that. But anyways, this has been so fun getting to know y'all. It's always funny whenever you come on a podcast and I'm like, I've never met you guys a follow-up or so long. Yeah. But you guys are even better than I even expected. You guys are amazing and such a beautiful couple. Thank y'all for doing what you're doing. And thanks for coming on the podcast and blessing us to spin awesome. Thank you. It's been great. It's so great to meet you and it's really fun. Yeah, really, you thanks for reaching out. We're really honored to come on. So, hopefully we'll cross paths. We'll hang in person. Thanks again for having us.