Nightcap Hour 1: Celtics DESTROY the Heat + Make Washington Jr. JOINS Nightcap + Gary Owen CRACKS JOKES & Ocho OFFICIATES Wedding

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They might not always agree with what we say, but they appreciate our honesty. And also, we don't get into the weeds of going back and forth and attacking other podcasts and doing all that other stuff. That's unnecessary because creating content, which means you create. You don't let somebody else create content, and then you comment on the content they created. Right, right, right, right. We do it what we do when we do. We'll continue to do that. And thanks to the fan support, we shall continue to grow. The Boston Celtics beat down the Miami Heat 147-129. Jalen Brown, JB, 43 points, 7 assists. four made threes. Jason Tatum had a trip dub, 25 points, 18 rebounds, 11 assists. Guess he heard who was the best duo in the NBA conversation and they said, hold on, man. Y'all need to stop playing with us. Sam Houser chipped in 23 points on 9 of 11 shooting from the floor, 5 of 7 from the 3-point line. Even Quader had 16 points and 11 rebounds. And the bench, Luke Garza, 12 points. Peyton Pritchard, 14 points. Bailey Shireman had eight points they did a demolition and and and the heat did everything they could joe they were 11 or 15 from the three-point line they cut it down i think to like eight or ten to start the fourth and then they go on then the celtics go on a seven nothing run and then they never really looked back from that because they didn't have an answer for jb and jt joe watching this game are the celtics really really dangerous can they really are they the team that everybody should be afraid of in the East coming out of the Eastern Conference and representing the Eastern Conference in the NBA Finals? Hey, of course they are, Uncle Ocho. Since Tatum came back, they've been playing amazing basketball. They're gearing up for a postseason run. You know what I mean? Like, they hear the chatters. They hear everybody talking about who's going to come out the East. And obviously, with Tatum back and playing the way he's been playing, it's definitely, it's got them at the top of the East right now. I mean, they've been playing great basketball. They're in sync. They haven't missed a beat. And they got so many weapons, so many guys that could beat you. I didn't know how Tatum was going to look coming back. But, man, he's looked great. And guess what? They're not playing with their food, man. They're getting rid of these teams. They understand what's at stake, and they understand the opportunity that they have, and that's to contend for a title. And they had a team to do it. So I enjoy watching those guys play. I enjoy watching JB to continue to dominate and continue to, you know, be in MVP conversations, although I do not think he will win it. But I think he's done a hell of a job this year, man, and competing on both ends of the floor and keeping the Celtics afloat. Hey, Unk and Joe, matter of fact, hell, before Jason Tatum came back, what JB was able to do with the Celtics that we thought he wouldn't be able to do was have them contending, have them coming out east or being one of the top teams to come out east. and the fact that he kept that ship afloat without Jason Tatum where he was in the MVP conversations and had them playing as well as they did without JT. And then one JT come back, them boys still ain't missed no beat. Even though they demolished my heat tonight, that's a whole other conversation in itself. But then, hey, they look good. They look real good. I think the thing that makes them, where they were vulnerable before Tatum came back, is that if you look at the Knicks, Carl Anthony here is there, but they got two guys. They got Brunson and Cat. If you look at Cleveland, they got two guys. They got Mitchell, they got Harden. And that was going to leave JB all by himself. Now that they got Tatum back to go along with JB, now they got another guy that you know that can give you 30, 40 points. He can go get your double-digit rebounds. We saw tonight get a triple-dub so he can facilitate. He can run offense. yeah so now that makes them yeah that their hands-on favorite to come out I mean I don't I don't know what the what it was going into the season but there's no question in my mind they're picked to come out of the Eastern Conference and I understand Detroit with Kay Cunningham having an unbelievable season Jalen Durant went to the all-star game and those that's a two-headed monster but they're not this nah you talk about two guys that's already been there done that both guys have won an Eastern Conference most valuable player the Larry Bird Award war. JB has won a finals MVP. Both of these guys have been all-stars. Both of these guys have been all pros. All excuse me all NBA. So there are very few teams that can have that have two guys like that that have that count on their resume. You got to go all the way to the you know the Western Conference to see two guys that have been all-stars and one guy's been a finals MVP and you talk about Shea and Jalen Williams and now they got Chet so they got three guys that's been all-stars. Yeah. And one guy's a finals MVP. He's probably favored to win this year's regular season MVP, as he did last year. You got Yoke, Hitchin, Murray. So if you look at the Western Conference, they normally have two guys that can come get you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Now with Boston? With JT and JB? Hey, hey, I like it, but it's not just JT and JB. No. It's what we call the others. Those other guys, the Peyton Pritchard, the Derrick Whites, the Sam Housers, those guys who've been playing this entire season without Tatum, Uncle Ocho, they understand what it's like. You know what I mean? So they know if they need it to be counted on, obviously they're going to come through. They'll win you some games in the postseason. You're going to put a lot of load on Brown and Tatum. But for the most part, you got other guys who are willing to step up and have no problem with stepping up and playing a big factor in the Boston Celtics advancing in the postseason. So I like where the Celtics at, man. I'm sure they're pretty ecstatic where they're at as well, which is probably why Tatum came back. And, man, from the looks of it, I mean, 147 points. Okay, Ocho, you're going to win the majority of them games. You know, you're scoring like that rate. Joe, they shot 58% from the floor. They shot 48% from the three. You're going to lose by 20. Yeah. Damn near. You can't let a team shoot that high. Damn near 60% from the two-point line. You let them shoot 48% from the three-point line. Even if you made, the Heat made 24 threes. And they lost by 18 points. That's enough on my team. They had six guys in double figures and lost by 18 points. Wiggins had 13. Bam had 29. Mitchell had 21. Hero had 18. Larson had 18. Hawkins Jr. had 17. They made 24 threes. And they shot 46%. So it wasn't like they shot in the 30s. And they lost by 18. Boston got a lot, man. Offensively, they're a juggernaut, Ojo. I mean, with Tatum back, you figure, okay, I can keep one of them at bay, Tatum and back. Yes. But, hell, with both of them, it's going to be tough because, you know, Even though Derrick White didn't have the greatest game tonight, he only shot four shots, but you know he's capable of coming out and getting you 25, 30 points on any game. You know what I mean? They just got so many weapons that I think that's going to help them prevail. And, yes, they are a very scary team to deal with as of right now. You look at Jason Tatum and JT and JB, JT was plus seven. Brown was plus nine. Hauser plus 23. Quader, plus 28. Pritchett, plus 20. Shireman, plus 14. So think about it. Your two big guns are in the plus, which is great, but they have some of the lowest plus. As Joe said, the others. We've seen Peyton Pritchett. Okay, so you know what? Let's just say for the sake of argument, one of the big two having an off game. Let's just say it's JT or JB. One of those guys. The other guy gets it going. You still got to worry about Pritchett. Pritchett can light your ass up for 40. Sam Houda can make seven threes. Yeah. Yeah. They got a total team package when it comes to, you know, hitting you in different waves, bro. Yes. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, we can run this trap on Tatum and JB. But I like Equator, too. I like Equator, yes. You know, he understands his role, plays hard, shot blocker, rim protector. you know, defender. Ain't going to do much more than that. You know, he's going to take what you give him. He had a double-double tonight. Actually, he's been playing well the whole entire season from a defensive standpoint. So they got rid of some key players, and Al Horford and Drew Holiday, but at the same time, man, they plug and play. They got some... They upgraded, though. I mean, Al, look. Go ahead, on your way. I'm trying to think of something to say, honestly. Trying to defend my heat. I really can't. I want to go into and use the point that listen, the Celtics doing what they did to the Miami Heat is really not a measuring stick for how good they are. But the fact that the Celtics do goddamn everybody like this, like there's no point that I can actually make outside the fact that we don't have enough firepower. The Hawks put foots in them last night though. The Hawks put foots in them last night. You see my Hawks? You see them Hawks balling? They just put foots in the magic to tonight. Listen, a squirrel getting that every boomer. A squirrel getting every two moons. Well, he got two of them in the past two days. Must be Christmas. Yeah, hey, the Heat don't have enough firepower, man. I mean. No, they don't. We got to do a whole lot. They going to be a play-in team, and they play hard and compete, so they may still have a chance to get that eight spot. But I don't see them. They ain't doing no damage. I mean, they don't have enough. And I understand Pat Riley. I mean, he wants to keep his homegrown talent. He seems to be unwilling to part with Tyler Hero. But the only guy that I would be really unwilling to part with is Bam. Bam, yeah, that's it. Bam is the only one, Joe. Everybody else, you can have him. I agree, I agree. I think they're going to make some changes. They're going to make some changes this summer, Uncle Ojo, if this – I told you what's going to happen. Now, I said it before the season started. I was saying it before the trade deadline approach, but obviously some things didn't work out in the way we wanted it to, but I can guarantee you in this offseason, Joe, you hear me? Yeah, I'm listening. And when the exact players I said that was coming, when they actually come, all I want you to say, boy, Ocho, boy, you know something, Daniel, boy. You saying Jai or Giannis going to come? You ain't saying both of them, right? I mean, there's a good chance we could land both. Because, I mean, Pat, listen, are we trying? Come on, Joe. Come on, Joe. Listen to me. Stay with me. Are we trying to change the culture? Are we trying to be the A seed or a play-in team every goddamn season? Hey, listen. The A seed or the play-in, all that is is a participating trophy. No, listen. You ain't trying to change the culture. The culture is great. What you need is a little more talent, okay? You need some more talent. Yes. Hey, Joe. You need some more talent. What is culture without the talent? What is culture without the talent? You mediocre. You like the Cowboy. Oh, my bad. I think the problem that they have is that when you look at it, and they went to the – a few years ago, maybe 23, maybe a little before that, they went to the NBA. Finals. Maybe it was 22. They went to the finals and they lost to the Nuggets. And sometimes the worst thing that can happen to you is that you have success because you think you're good enough. Yeah. They haven't been good enough in a while. Andrew Wiggins had that out-of-body experience when they won that championship against the Celtics. Yeah. But Andrew Wiggins has been just a guy. Yeah. He's been just a guy. He's the number one overall draft pick. He wouldn't have been that had Joel Embiid back, had held up in college. But he's a guy. Yeah. I mean, you count on him? He's your second best player? Yeah, I mean. So I'm just trying to figure out, okay, you got Bam. Bam is Bam. Bam can defend. You see Bam can get – Bam is a double-double machine. Tyler Hero is a solid player. But are you – do you really believe you can win with Tyler Hero as your first or second best player? You believe you can win a championship with him as your first or second best player, Joe? No, you have to have Wiggins insert himself and be aggressive on Ocho. Like he has to. Because he's capable of averaging 20 a night, 20 or more a night. You know what I mean? That man shot seven times, Joe. I know. What am I supposed to do with that? He played 32 minutes, only shot seven times. Thank you. And I just feel like he got so much game and potential that he's one guy who I feel like, man, when it's time to turn it up, I feel like he can. I mean, he's won the title. He's played with some great talent before. So he knows what it's like. But for whatever reason, it just hasn't been there for him. It's hard for me to believe at the age of 30, it's going to come to him now. I could be wrong. He might not even be 30. He might be 28, 29. I think he probably about 30. But he probably right there. He right there. What I'm saying is, I'm saying, okay, Ocho, he can muster it up to where, you know, when the postseason starts, whatever he's averaging, he can give you more than that. That's all I'm saying. I think he has a lot more in the tank. Can is the ability to do something. Yeah. Will he? What have you seen based on that one run that he had in Golden State in which they won the title? What about all those other years when they was losing to the Lakers in the play-in? How was he looking? But what I'm saying is, in order for the Lakers to make some noise, I mean, not the Lakers, the Heat to make some noise, they got to have another guy bro You can put all this on Bam Bam ain gonna come out here and get you no 30 or no night You know what I saying He going to do a little bit of everything He a workhorse I think with him scoring that 83 you know everybody looking at him a little different. No, no, no, I don't. He had an out-of-body experience. It's almost like the situation where we hear about somebody having the out-of-body experiences where they have an enormous power strength or they do something out of this world. That's what Bam had. Yeah. Oh, our very, very special guest is joining us. University of Arkansas running back, Mike Washington Jr. tipped the scales at 6'1", 223 pounds. In the combine, he ran a 4-3-3. He had a vertical jump of 39, broad jump of 10 feet, 8 inches, and his stats in 2026. He only had 167 rushes, but over 1,000 rush yards and eight rushing touchdowns. Mike, how you doing, bro? Y'all can hear me? Mike. Yeah, we got you. What's going on? I'm doing good. Can't complain. What's good, what's good, bro? Where you at? I'm in Arkansas right now. Okay, you still out there? Hey, hey, hey. He down there running them hills, man. Them hills got you right down there, ain't it, man? Everything got me right out here, man. Hey, hey. That's what I'm talking about. Mike, we saw the clip of you after you ran that blistering time. You became very emotional. At that moment, what was going through your mind, And why did you become so emotional at that point in time? Really just everything. You know, I've been through a lot of adversity. I had bounced from school to school, been to three schools, was at Buffalo, New Mexico State, and then, you know, Arkansas. But really just everything. Like all my hard work, you know, it paid off. And, you know, that realization that, you know, all my hard work paid off just hit me at once. What has the process been like so far for you? Obviously, I understand how difficult the process is, especially when talking to the team, talking to some of the owners, talking to the higher-ups and the questions that they ask. What has the process been for you throughout the combine experience? Honestly, it's been a blessing being able to talk to these different teams, getting a chance to talk to the head coaches, running back coaches, the office of coordinators. It's really just been a blessing. And I've been, you know, just trying to soak everything up. Mike, what's happening, bro? What's going on? Hey, what was your training like preparing for the combine? You know, we know you ran a 4-3. Obviously, you did your thing in the combine. This boosted you up on a lot of people's drafts boards. What was your training like? What did you incorporate that helped you out, you know, in this combine? Really just, it was really dieting. You know, I was out there at Fort Myers training the X3. and I got a chance to at first when I came in my body was beat up because of the season so I had to get a lot of treatment it was every day where I was just getting treatment, working on my body but once I took care of the nicks and bruises of the season I was really able to fix everything regarding my start regarding my first three steps all of that that was the biggest thing that I had to emphasize my first three steps we was able to get that corrected that though you know what for myself obviously me being a foodie and being a nutritionist i'm curious when you say your diet you had to get your diet right to prepare yourself for the combine what did you eat did what i mean what what kind of diet we talking about yeah i just had so um so when i when i'm talking about my diet i'm talking about like you know the macros and all that so protein at a hit a certain i had to hit a goal every day on the term how much protein i had how many carbs how many fats um so i mean there was a lot of lean between 180 and 220 protein grams of protein because theoretically you can eat a gram of protein per body now so you 220 so you can get somewhere between one night and 220 maybe you want to go look add a little muscle you go to 230 230 yeah it was more so it was more protein than really any of them right right which was hard for me because i'm a big carb guy like i like my rights you know my my that was like the hardest thing for me, but yeah. Eating quality protein is hard. If you eating chicken, you eating fish, you eating turkey, you eating lean cuts of meat, yeah, that's a lot. You get a couple of burgers, a couple of hot dogs, some fried food, you blow right through that. Man, man. You'll blow right through that bite. Yeah, you gotta stay away from that fast food. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, Joe, slow down, Joe. Joe, slow down, Joe. Ocho, Ocho, Ocho, Ocho, the man finna be a pro. We need to, let's teach him how he should take care of his body, what he should be eating, what he should stay away from. If he want to keep that 4-3 speed when he get in the league, yeah, don't get satisfied, don't get comfortable, bro. You got to keep your foot on the gas, you feel me? Yes, sir. Don't be listening to Ocho. Ocho out here eating McDonald's and all that. Ocho, his body type might not be like that. I mean, we the same side, Joe. We the same side. I'm 6'3", 225. Man, man, man. Not even close. Hey, Mike, check this out. You mentioned your journey and adversity that you faced. University of Buffalo, New Mexico, then Arkansas. You're from upstate New York, right? Utica, New York. So you go to Buffalo. That doesn't suit you. You go to New Mexico. That doesn't suit you. What was it about Arkansas? What was that? So you know what? I think this is the place for me. I think this is where I can hone my craft and I can become what I believe I can become? Really, so starting off at Buffalo, I had – a lot of people don't know this, but I was at Buffalo for three years, and I had four running back coaches in three years. So that was like the main reason why I left. And then going into New Mexico State, I had a decent season and ended up hitting a portal mainly because I just knew that I had to play against a better competition to get better looks. So that's why I hit the portal. But before Arkansas, I had committed to Utah, and when I committed, I didn't sign. I was waiting on the papers, and I mean, a week went by, and I didn't sign at all. I don't know if they were stalling or what. But, you know, Arkansas came into the picture, and, you know, they were able to put together a great game plan for me to graduate and then also presented me with the opportunity to, you know, play. So that was, like, the biggest thing with Arkansas. You mentioned playing against top-level competition. You know the top competition, the SEC, and the Big Ten. And you didn't have a whole lot of carries, but you averaged about six yards a carry. So what is it about, and looks at from the projections, Seattle, the Broncos, and the Bengals are three, are where you kind of looked at being projected at. Because I think all three of those teams, obviously K-9, he left Seattle and went to Kansas City. The Broncos, they could need somebody in the backfield with K.J. Harvey and obviously the Bengals. although Brown played extremely well, they probably want somebody with a little bigger body and can pound it up in there and maybe you guys split carry because seemingly that's where everybody's going to the two-back system. But what was it about the SEC that really, really like, okay, I see all these guys that come out every year that go there. Let me see what they're really talking about. Really, I feel like I had a season I had because just the motivation and determination when it came to really just playing the SEC. Coming in, a lot of people were saying that I'm not SEC caliber. A lot of people were saying that I'm going to be third team and I'm going to ride the bench. I'm going to be handling out waters. So I really thought about all of that during the season. That was like really my driving motivation. Hey, when you talk about playing the running back position, obviously we all have our favorite players. If you think about your favorite players in the NFL right now, who do you mold or who would you say your playing style is like? that's in today's game? I would definitely say Josh Jacobs. I've been watching him since he was in Alabama. He went to the Raiders and Green Bay. I've been watching him all throughout his career. I'll definitely say him. I like it. Hey, Mike, what you doing right now, bro, preparing for the draft? What it's like? I know you prepared for the combine, had a hell of a combine. What are you doing now? Obviously, on the brink of getting drafted, what's your workout regimen like what's your thought process on even getting a chance to play in the NFL knowing that I'm sure it was probably a lifelong dream of yours what is it like right now? Yeah so right now I'm training Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Friday and then next week we go into Monday, Wednesday, Friday, Tuesday, Thursday conditioning so that's what my training is like and I'm also getting treatment every day I'm taking advantage of all of that because it's all free in Arkansas so taking advantage of all of that Right now. I feel like my mindset is starting to shift it in terms of, you know, goals, you know, because this has always been, you know, a goal of mine, you know, making it to the NFL. And now, you know, my mindset is starting to change into, you know, you know, trying to hit that legendary status. Right. Really, really just, you know, whatever it takes, you know, like, you know, whoever is becoming a pro bowler, you know, and eventually, you know, my end goal is being in the Hall of Fame. So that's where my mindset is starting to shift to. Well, Mike, you know, looking at the scouting report, the one thing that the first thing up there, ball security. Yes, man. That you need to do a better job of securing the football, 10 fumbles over three seasons. What have you been doing to try to fix that small flaw that's in your game? Really just emphasizing it. Like I do position work every other day while I'm out here, and I'm just really just emphasizing it like I'm on cuts. Like I do a drill, position drill, then I'll run like a gasser and I come back while I'm tired because that's when I had my fumbles. I come back while I'm tired and I get back in the drill and I'm just emphasizing, you know, holding the ball tight. It's really just an emphasis thing. Yeah. You ever been to Cincinnati? I've been through Cincinnati. Been through? Yeah. Yeah, there's a good chance. You might be there, man. know you chase brown in the backfield uh i'm probably gonna be in the war room you know on on draft day so um i'm just you know put my word in we're gonna send you to war not no war room to war hey i'm i'm trying i'm trying to improve my team huh that's all that's all um you started uh you started a youtube channel yes sir so so tell us a little bit about that yeah really just um really just documenting my life documenting everything i want to be able to look back um when i'm older and be able to show my kids everything so yeah okay i like that that's what's up bro that's what's up so how long how long how long have you had the youtube channel and did you start it like okay did you start it during the season did you start it once you started preparing for the combine when did you start this just say you know what i want to start this look back so when i'm here i can have my kids my grandkids uh we can all sit down and take a look with you look look what your dad look what your grandpa yeah i started during uh combine training so like a few months ago okay okay yeah so you didn't document did you document anything during your uh your final season in arkansas did you did you uh any ladies you know nah so that's why that's that's my only regret i should have started during the season but end up starting after after the season i got a couple i got one video out right now and then i have another one that that should be dropping within the next couple of hours, actually. I got to check that out. Yeah. Well, that's awesome, man. Congratulations. I mean, the process in which you've gone through, going to three schools, it doesn't matter where you started, where you finished. Now, I just want to share this information with you. I know your lifelong dream was to play in the NFL, but your journey doesn't start. Now the journey starts. So getting there is easy. Staying there is the hard part. continue to work continue to put God first continue to do all the things that you did to get you there but you're going to have to do them at an even higher level now because there are a lot of guys that were all Americans and all conference and all this at that level and so in order for you to stand out above them and to make sure you stay at that level you know what it takes because you got this far continued success so here at nightcap Ocho ISO is the University to arkansas love yes sir little rock yeah yeah you know he gonna be he gonna be watching with the eagle eye hey hey mike hey mike hey stay ton of vision bruh yeah i mean everything else on the side them just distractions homie stay locked in and uh congratulations bro and i wish you the best on the draft and woo pig yeah congratulations man good luck on everything when you do get drafted i'm sure you have a team of people you know that direct you and what and what you need to do and what you need and need not do. But if you need a nutritionist, holler at you, boy. I can get you a nice... Don't do that. Don't holler at you. I got a nice little plan for you, man. Get you right. I got you, too. How the family doing? The family good? Everybody good? Mom, dad, brother, sister? Everybody good? Yeah, everybody doing good. They're actually watching it right now, so shout out to them. Hey, mama! What's up, mama? What are they doing, twins? Make sure you subscribe. Make sure you hit that subscribe button and hit the like button while you're at it. Yeah, yeah. I appreciate it, man. All the best, man. God bless. Stay healthy. And look forward to hearing your name called on draft night. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Good luck, Mike. Yes, sir. Appreciate you, bro. Mike Washington, Jr., University of Arkansas, running back. He's projected to go fairly high. I mean, great size, 6'1", 223, running 4'3". You look at his vert, you look at his standing broad jump, it lets you know he's explosive. it also lets you know he did what he did in one of the preeminent conferences in football. So now that hold on, he battle tested he can run like that, he can jump like that like I said the only knock that I can find is that he got to do a better job of taking the football because the quickest way to get your ass off the field is to put that, Ocho remember earlier this year Derrick Henry, as great as he was what did the Ravens do Ocho? Hey remember what I said Ocho? Come on here with me. What did I tell you was the problem? What did he take off his hands? What did he take off his arms? Them damn sleeves. Because you can't feel a goddamn ball, Joe. But listen, for him, another thing also. And we know you know, because you know what skin to skin feel like, so we know you like skin to skin. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, another. Oh, yeah, we know you. Hey, another thing for him too, Joe and Unc, is coming in and being a running back, you know, everybody fast, huh? You know what I'm talking about? Everybody can run. But being able to do more at your position will separate you from everybody else. Being able to do more. Not having to come out on third downs. Knowing how to pass block. Being able to catch out the backfield. All that stuff matters and it makes you a lot more valuable outside of just the stats and what you did at the combine. So I'm hoping he got the right people around him so he can be a much better running back than what he was at goddamn Arkansas. is adding other tools to his toolbox. That makes you more value. And staying locked in to the point to where you focus. You know how, like, training for the combine? Because I'm sure both of y'all have done it. You probably had to train your butt out for the combine. Then be like, once you get drafted, you can't exhale, bro. Hell nah. You can't exhale. You got to continue. You got to keep that same mindset as though you still trying to get somewhere. even though you're already there. You know what I'm saying? And like Oc say, as easy as it is to get there, man, it's much harder to stay. It's the same thing in the NBA, bro, because guys get so comfortable after they get drafted, after they know the ropes, after they know how much they need to put in. You can never get comfortable, bro. You always got to stay locked in and stay hungry. And I think, look, you got to be really special, really, really special running back. to basically be a two-down back. I mean, to be like an Adrian Peterson, because Adrian Peterson came out a lot on third down. Henry comes out on third down. You've got to be special. But it's not a whole lot of LaDainian Thomasons. There's not a whole lot of Marshall Fogs, and Christian McCaffrey. There's not a whole lot of guys like that. And somebody said, man, Eric Dickinson fumbled one time, 18 times in one season. Yeah, he rushed for 2,100 yards one time in a season too. he rushed for 20 touchdowns in the season two. E.D. was different. I remember when E.D. came in when he had the chair and curl with the glasses on. And he was the state champion in the 100 and 200 in the state of Texas. You know one thing. Texas, Florida, Georgia, when it comes to speed, if you win the state track meet in one of those, in California, in one of those three states, oh, you can move. You can move. You can move. You can move, move. You know what's so funny about ED2 Unk? When you look at his highlights, he runs so straight up. He runs straight up and down, tall as hell. Boy, that boy move, move. He be moving, boy. Eric Durrell. But it's great to see the journey that these kids, and to overcome things. You know, he's from upstate New York. Obviously, he goes to the University of Buffalo. So that doesn't work out for him. He goes on. He goes. He mentioned that he had four coaches, running back coaches, while he was there. And then he goes to New Mexico State. And for whatever reason, he's like, you know what? I had a good season. But I want people because look at the level of competition. I'm kind of doing this. And they're going to hold that against me. So let me go against top-level competition, do what I did, and maybe I'll get a better look. And he probably played himself into a top three You know probably not going to get out of the second or third He could be a first pick but indications like he probably going to go that second day probably second or third round Nice size, ability to run the football, that kind of speed. 4-3-3 at that size. Hey, that was the fastest in the combine, wasn't it, out of running backs? It might have been. I think somebody might have had a 4-3 flat. But for a running back, but these guys now, See, here's the thing, the problem that I have with this, Joe. Guys are going and specifically training. It'll be like you, Joe, going and says, okay, Joe, we want you to shoot. Now, we're going to do a test, Joe, but you're only going to shoot threes from the right top of the key. Yeah. That's all you're going to shoot, and that's all you did. Yeah. You're going to get very proficient at that. Yeah. And see, the thing is, is that can you play football? I love that you can run fast. I love that you can jump high. I love all of that. But at the end of the day, I ain't got no stopwatch on you. I ain't got no measuring tape on you. Can you play football? That's what I need to know. Can that 4'3 and that 11 foot and that 40 inch, does it translate to get your ass on the field? I put a helmet on you, I put shoulder pads, and I put cleats on your damn feet. Can you translate that? Because, Joe, I'm sure you've seen guys that can jump out the gym and they can shoot it, but they get in the basketball game, and I'm like, son, what you doing? Right, right. I already know what you're talking about. Hey, some can, some can't. I think what happens is when you're in a combine or when you're training for the NBA, it's like, can you make those reads in the game? You know what I mean? Those game situations? Because in basketball, you ain't going to get the top speed. In football, you might, but before you get to top speed, you're going to have to wiggle a little bit. Oh, yeah. Yes. You understand? So I understand what you're talking about. Gary! We got a very, very special guest joining us. I don't know why. He came in the chat a little early, but he was looking. Why so serious? There he is. Very funny. Mr. Gary Owen. Gary, how you doing? Gary, what's up, baby? What up, bro? What's up? Hey, hey. Gary I haven't had an opportunity to talk to you since we did the Club Shaysha interview and hopefully you enjoyed the way it came out we got a lot of positive feedback hopefully people started clapping man I ain't know Gary was that funny but I've done 200 of these and so hopefully you enjoyed it as much as I enjoyed it 200 pods I've done I've only had one person to say they didn't have a very enjoyable experience so I want to say hopefully you had a very enjoyable yeah yeah that was dope yeah I got a lot of phone calls off that one So you got married. I mean, I don't even, you said you was dating. I didn't want to bring, I mean, I knew some things that were going on, but I didn't want to put you on the spot because I didn't want to be messy because people say I'm messy. So I didn't want to put your business out there in the street. But you've gotten remarried. You got twins. What has it been like becoming a new father for the first time in what? Damn near two decades, Gary. I got a nanny this time. It's easy. It's light work with the nanny. Hey, matter of fact, Gary, you know, I'm glad I'm glad I'm leaded with that question as far as doing something. Obviously, having older kids like myself and starting back over with twins. And I just told me not too long ago, Uncle and I and Joe as well, we talked about actually having kids again. You know, and no, no, no. You did. OK, Mitch. Hey, Joe, you Joe, you said you were to agree. We talked about a triple marriage. We talk about us. We ain't talking about us having no kids. Well, Gary, I'm thinking about having twins. I want to know, what do you think about me having twins? Do you think it's a good move at this point in life, or should I just stick with what I have right now? Keep it real, G. You close to double digits. Might as well get that even 10. See? That's what I'm talking about. And so, wait, one thing. Obviously, you know how I am. I'm very financially savvy. So what does it look like having a nanny? without having to tell me how much it really costs. You know, I mean, like, what do you think? I had one before G. I already know it. It's not as bad as people think. It really is. Okay. It's not that bad. Okay, so ours isn't, like, living. She gets here at 7 a.m. Right. She leaves around 5. So is she there 10 hours? Yeah. Yeah, she's there for 10 hours. Okay, that's convenient. That sounds convenient. Does she do anything other than nanny? Does she cook? Does she clean? Or is that she's just a nanny? She just take care of the kids? When you got twins, I mean, she ain't really got time to do much else because they're everywhere. So she keeps everything in order. When she's not here, we see how important she is. I'll tell you that. And she calls in sick. Oh. Oh. Hey, don't worry about it. We got some medicine. We got some call, sir. We got some call. That's like the Bengals without Joe Burrow. Gary, let me ask you this, Gary. What was it about you getting married? What goes through your mind saying, hey, you know what I think would be a good idea, babe? We get Ocho to appreciate it. Talk to him, Gary. Let me tell you how this all panned out. It was like a 48-hour notice. So when we first decided, yo, we're going to get married, I had went to another wedding, and I saw Cedric the Entertainer preside over it. I said, that's a good idea. Because it wasn't stuffy. It wasn't like, you know, God almost like threatening you. Sometimes I go to weddings, I feel like it's a threat, you know? Death to his part, sickness in health, bitter poor. I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa. When Cedric did, I go, oh, that was funny. So when ours came about, I said, you know, I wanted the groomsmen to be my Think Like a Man castmates. And so I was like, that'll be different. We all hadn't been in the same room since 2014. So everybody signed on. And then when it came to the officiant, 50 Cent volunteered. He was like, I want to do it. So I was like, great. So the whole time I was like, 50's doing it. We kept it low key. Tuesday, I get a phone call. I said, oh, this ain't good. This is good. And they said 50 was filming something in New Jersey. The weather was bad. He didn't want to wait till the last minute and cancel. So he was like, let's scramble. And I'm not going to lie. Ocho was the second person I reached out to. I reached out to four people. Ocho got back the quickest. So I was like, oh, he got it. Because he called me back immediately. So I called Matt Reif and then Ocho and then Deion Cole and Tommy from Power, Joseph Secura. In that order was the four people I called, Matt, Ocho, Dion, and Joseph. Hey, you noticed the black guy got back to you faster, huh? You were the fastest one, huh? You got back fast. You did. I don't know how many people that watched the episode, but you got a very fascinating story. You're from Cincinnati. You go to the military. And you're like, you know what? I think I could do comedy. and you started going to these open mics in the military. How did you like, I want to fight for the country, which is a very noble cause. You know what? I want to get on stage and tell jokes. Listen, it wasn't about the fight for the country. You grew up in a trailer park right outside of Cincinnati. I knew I wanted to be a stand-up. I was like, how do I do it, though? I didn't know how. I thought you started in LA. Who's got the most bases in California? The Navy does. But if I join the Navy, they're going to eventually get me to California. And so I spent two years in the Honor Guard in D.C. And then the first chance I got to get to San Diego, I went. And that's when I started doing stand-up. The whole plan was to get to California and start doing stand-up. Because I thought the whole state was L.A. Because I didn't know. Because I've never been. No. Yeah. Yeah. So were you funny? So did you prank people? Were you cracking jokes? Did the teacher say, Mr. Owen, would you please sit down? Everything is not meant to be a joke. Did you always have this sense of humor? Or was it like... Nah, I was class clown, most obnoxious, everything in high school. Same. Yo, me and Chad, back in 2006, so I moved back to Cincinnati in 2004, somewhere around there, and I met Chad almost immediately. Like, almost the first day I got back, for some reason, ran into each other. And then I had this Tuesday night in Cincinnati, and it was killing. Like, because I knew the ball players, their off day was Tuesday. They didn't have a lot going on. I go, all right, if I can do something on Tuesday night, once the Bengals start coming, then the hoes start coming. Wow. We had all the bad shakes in Cincinnati. We had all the Bengals. I was like, and then Chad, I called him. In 2006, I called him. I said, yo, he was coming every week. so I was like um let's do Chad Johnson's too funny Tuesday hosted by Gary Owen so we did that that thing was sold out so far in advance like that 2006 year when me and Chad did it it was packed to the brim people still talk about that to this day back in Cincinnati that year yeah Gary what do you say because people's like you know and and Chad paid you the ultimate compliment He said, Gary Owens been in this thing 30 years. And for whatever reason, we know the reason he hadn't because he hadn't sold his soul to the devil. But a lot of people say, you know what, Gary's really, but it's crossover. It's like when you go to your soul, it's like, it's like a Mardi Gras. It's like, it's like a HBCU convention. Cause the black men and women, they love you. How did you, how were you able to garner that crowd? you being a white comedian you don't choose your audience they choose you I like that you know and my first chance to get on tv was BET yeah okay I would have went on Telemundo if I spoke Spanish you just trying to get on anything yeah my first tv appearance was the Dayton game first really and it was funny because i was one of the three guys and we don't know who the girl is but when we were backstage the you know they do two two different um segments every episode so it'd be it's a guy picks um three girls and then a girl picks three guys right they sweep well obviously it was a white girl picking three white dudes but when we were in the green room i saw some black guys i was like wait a minute are you guys here filming today they're like yeah I went through, can we switch? Can I be back on the other episode? No! No, you're assigned to this episode. I said, I think I'll be on the other episode, though. But my first, that was my first TV appearance was the dating game. How do you think Chad did for the wedding? Back to the wedding. I mean, how many people did you invite? We had 170. okay close family friends and loved ones yeah we had we had a nice mix of like quote-unquote hollywood my entertainment friends and then my wife's friends you know they're all from houston so it was a nice nice mix of ratchet with hollywood yeah yeah yeah i'll tell you what at one point the liquor start going it got about 11 30 which is late for the wedding right also and there was a twerk off on the dance floor. And I'm in the middle. Damn, at a wedding? So much ass was hitting my legs. I almost tore my ACL. It was getting flipped around like so much. I was like, one FG go this way, the other one. I was like, yeah. Hello, Gary. You got a twerk off at a wedding? Oh, we got it in. This wasn't a normal wedding, bro. I got roasted. Russell Peters and Lunell went up and roasted me at the reception. it was just it was just fun man and Ocho what I liked about it I told him man don't stress if you I want you to mess up so he messed up a couple times because he said it was dark and he had sunglasses on I said I can't read this it's too dark but I wanted to be in it was imperfectly perfect I mean he he made it his so I didn't want like I didn't want the preacher to be like it was all perfect and rehearsed we we didn't want it that so was ocho late no no he got there on time what hold on wait a minute you mean to tell me this man got no i said is he here they go he's already dressed let me let me here's what i'm impressed with the theme was black tux with a black undershirt we wanted the guys to be an all black so many guys said they couldn't find a black shirt how did chad confirms on thursday the wedding saturday he had a black tux black shirt i go if he can do it you guys should have been able to do it the other guy like we just didn't find a black shirt he found it hey no he came he came shirtless you thought it was a shirt hey hey hey you got to understand i i take i take being a officiant. I take it very, very seriously. That was my first one. Hey, Gary, now my services are open to the public. Right now, I'm starting low. I'm only charging $500. So $500 to officiate. And with that package, I can also perform with my little band. I got a mini band down here in Miami. Hmm. Yeah. Yeah, I just... Gary, you say the old lady, she's from Brooklyn? Yeah, thick. Hey, you know what, Gary? I've been looking to get out there and look around. It's a property. Can you show me around in Houston a little bit? Yo, she got me. I met her at the gym. You know a little something about that, Shannon. I'm saying, how you approach her though? If you met at the gym, you just walked up to her while she was working out? You waited. I told the story at the wedding. I go, I saw her and she was stretching and I was like, dang, she's kind of fine. So my roommate I said, yo, go invite her to a show. So he came back. He goes, man, I got good news and bad news. I said, what's the good news? He goes, she wants to come to the show. I said, what's the bad news? He goes, she don't know who the fuck you are. I said, ooh, I got to be extra funny tonight. So we, you know, we was, we weren't in a place to date then. I was still, I was separated, but I was married. and she was you know she wasn't ready to settle down so to speak she had her guard up with me and finally we just always stayed in touch and then you know it just worked out hey hold on I got one more question has she ever dated a white guy before you? never. Were you the first? Always and the last you like that you like that because we talked about this you like being the first you think you sleep I don't get those black girls I never have got the black girls that dated white dudes I get the ones that are like, wow, first time. Always, my whole life. But we talked about this and you said, I think you said on the show that you had only been with one white woman your entire life. Every other woman that you've been with has mainly been basically a black woman. Yeah, a woman of color. Okay, woman of color. because Gary, I mean, Ben from, hold on, you from Midwest. You say you're from a trailer park outside of Cincinnati. So you're not even really in Cincinnati. You're outside of Cincinnati, maybe near the Kentucky border. How does a redheaded white kid from a trailer park say, you know what, you got Jet Magazine pinned to your trailer park? Dude, let me tell you something. Playing football and sports, whenever we played the inner city schools, everybody else would be like, oh, no. I'd be like, oh, yes. Because I knew. I was like, I'm about to ball today. Hey, you're going to earn some stripes today. Hey, man, when you coming to Vegas? You got to show Vegas? Vegas, July 17th and 18th at the Venetian. I'm gonna try to get to that if I'm in town I'm coming what about Atlanta when you come I know you probably be in Atlanta Atlanta's October something the first week of October that's gonna be at the Cobb Energy Center yo I ain't lying Shannon like I did your show what almost two years ago about about nine months ago somehow I got in the algorithms and everything just took off like the ticket sales they gave me they didn't give me I won't say I earned it. I got a hundred city tour and we're doing all theaters and we're selling out everywhere. It's just, it, it just took off. It just took off. I think it was just me peppering all the time doing clips. Cause I made a decision. Well, you got, you got, you got, you got a lot of questions because everybody started asking you about the question about the situation with the X and the situation with your kids. And so the thing is, is that you didn't shy away from it, Gary, you talked about it And once you get into that algorithm Yeah Hey everybody people that don know probably didn know who you were now they get to see you come up on their feed Yeah. And you get rewarded for being in that algorithm. But also, when people mention your name in a negative response, you're also in the algorithm. Most of the thing is bad press. I'll tell you that. Especially your business. Because let me see if he's really funny. Let me see what's really going on with Gary Owen. If everybody says, because you hit it out, even on comic, you know, Def Comedy Jam and all the shows early on, there wasn't a whole lot. You, Honest John, I think those might have been the only two white guys that I actually saw on those shows. Yeah, there was one guy named Don. I think Dave, I think Fluffy might have been on there. Fluffy did it once. I think Joe Coy did it once. For about the first seven, eight years of Comic View, it was only like three comics an episode and there was like 15 episodes literally like 40 comics they were choosing from. Then they stopped making it a contest the year I hosted and they opened it up. That's when they opened it up to like 500 comics. Then you got a little more diverse. In the beginning it was a contest. People forget that. Comic was a contest. They did that because Dev Jam was just like comedians. when BET wanted to do comedy they said well we can't do Dev Jam we gotta switch it up a little bit so we'll make ours a contest so then when Dev Jam went away and I became the host of Comic View then they went back to just being a comedy show again it wasn't a contest anymore if I'm not mistaken you're the first and only white comic to host because Samora hosted, Sid hosted, DL hosted I think I'm the first and only white on-air personality they've ever had on any show. Because then I had the reality show too on BET. Boy, BET loved you. They did. I think since they've been taking over, I don't know how much original content we're going to get, Gary. So it might be all reruns. So you might still have a couple of episodes still airing. I don't think they're going to do much new content. They rerun everything on BET now. I think I saw Homeboys in Outer Space. Hey, Gary, I'm thinking about doing a little comedy myself. Did he just freeze? I think he froze. Yeah, he did. He did. Hey, that's normally what happens. I ask God every time he tell a lie to freeze it. You see what happens? Joe, our prayers wouldn't answer. Hey, Gary, I got a question. I seen the viral clip when Charlamagne asked you, had you been faithful your entire imagine? started choking, right? Hold on, hold on. But I also heard you say that they came up in court as you was going through your divorce. Well, it came up in mediation. We never actually went to court when we got the divorce. We ended up settling, but she brought it up in mediation. She goes, yeah, I saw the clip. And I go, what? Did they play the clip? Because a lot of times you go to mediation, if you say something, they'll play it. No, they didn't play it. you know we were once we got to that point we were pretty cordial so i it you'll play it if the guy's in denial or she has something to gain i i feel like i was very generous in mediation i think that's a sign of a good divorce i feel like i paid too much and she'll tell you she didn't get enough i'm like right that lets you know that's a good divorce but here's the thing you say i'm a comedian i'm just making light of a situation of course i was faithful in my marriage yeah right that's why that's why when we when I got married when I proposed and everything you gonna have a bachelor party I said I had a bachelor party my first marriage I'm good I don't need another one hey you can hear me yeah we got you I don't know what's wrong this wifi keep going in and out oh no oh no oh no that's God answering Joe and I pray Go ahead, what you want to ask you? I was telling Gary, I done started doing stand-up myself. I've been trying to tell jokes on here towards the end of every show, trying to get Netflix to give me a comedy special. Well, I'm the last one you need to ask about Netflix because they say it to me every year. Okay, okay. I want to try one of my jokes and I want to see if you can get it. You ready? Yep. what do you call a cow's knee? What? A burger joint. Gary, you see what we got to go through? He laughed a lot. Can you? He laughed before he got the punchline. A burger joint. give the joke a chance to breathe hey i i could i could i could hey hey gary one day i promise you i'm gonna make it big i'm gonna make it big on stage somebody's stage you made it big you didn't know i'm talking about i'm talking about once i mean the my second part of life my second part yeah but Ocho Gary correct me if I'm wrong it's just not good enough to be funny you got to talk about something you got to I mean the job of a comedian is take real events be it somewhere else or by themselves and make them funny and so to be funny it's one thing to all better do it funny but to get up there and stand in front of 200 300 500 a thousand two thousand people and to just keep it going and going and going hey can i tell you something yeah i've done that before i've done that before when gary hosted matter of fact gary you might not you might you might not remember this the improv by marvin dixon and benji brown used to host down in copeland night tuesday night tuesday nights yeah tuesday night in the off season yeah whenever the first comic got booed if you see marvin dixon and benji brown ask him who finished the set when the first comic got booed every time. No, I remember when you went up one night in Cincinnati. Okay, he had a funny joke, Shannon. Because he goes... Oh, he'll get out of 10, he'll give you three. I remember the one. Which one? What was it? Don't y'all hate it when your Lamborghini breaks down and you can't... Oh, you guys want to know nothing about that. Hate it? You in your helicopter and the helo pads booked up, you can't you don't know about that He's kind of digging on the audience Come on, Ocho Oh, so now chat, y'all see a different side of Ocho No, he ain't just playing Oh, that's funny I didn't fly I didn't fly in spirit to the wedding Oh, you what did you fly, American United, he was in 1A. I knew the seat number. In the bulkhead. Yeah, I can't do bulkhead. They have to have a wheelchair to get me off. It was short notice. That was the only first-class seat direct that I could get up on. So I was just happy they had one first-class seat available. I was like, all right, they got it. Listen, I'm not picky. As long as you put me in the exit row, I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm very low maintenance. Yeah. Where was the honeymoon? Where was the honeymoon, Gary? We really had one because I'm on tour. So I took a week off of the tour. OK, OK. We'll figure out this summer. I mean, this summer, she the tour is going to Australia, New Zealand and Europe. So wait a minute. So she attacked. So she attacked. Well, I should use the term loosely tag alone, but she'll be going with it. Wait a minute. Hold on. Hold on. You on tour? Yeah, it's called. Hey, hey, listen. Hey, listen. What you think about me opening up for you one night? All right. That's fine. Be ready. I'll be waiting in the wings. Gary, all of a sudden, you don't seem overly enthused by that. I'll give him a shot. I'll give him a shot. I'll give him a shot. You want to go up? Yeah. I like that. I appreciate it. I appreciate it. Gary, do you have a regular person that normally opens up, or do you go to different cities and have different comedians? No, I got two guys I rotate. So they pick their cities and they switch up. So I got two guys I kind of rotate them. Ah, that's awesome. That's cool. That's awesome. So who would you say when you give these guys an opportunity to rotate, who gave you your first big break, Gary? Well, Guy Torrey was the first one to put me on stage in L.A. I would have to say Guy because he had Fat Tuesdays back in the day on Sunset Strip I know you love Fat Tuesday because boy they have it's bittersweet because that's where I met my first wife hey do you remember a place Gary called Shark Bar come on what about the Century Club on Sundays remember that Oh, wait. Oh, in LA, in LA. Yeah. Century club. They had that when I way up to my way, way back. Yeah. Century. I remember that. Man. Congratulations on the marriage. Congratulations on the twins. Congratulations on all the success, the tour. No one is more. I don't like to say deserve. You get what you earn. No one has earned this more than you. The time that you put in, from what I can tell, I've never really hung around you personally, but from everybody that I've talked to that's in the space that you're in, nobody has ever uttered a word negative, even off camera, about Gary Owen. And I think if you can find people that can speak positive about you, even when the microphone or the cameras aren't rolling you've done a good job you've done a good job yeah well i just try to treat everybody i just try to be cool with everybody that's it i don't ask no i don't ask nothing from them i just just be cool chad knows i've been around chad a lot i've seen i when chad was at the top of his game in cincinnati when they had carson palmer and hushmanzada and rudy johnson and all them i saw people come to chad i was like i was always get disgusted at the things they would ask he okay let me tell you how disgusting people are real quick that 2006 season every week chad would draw a name out of a hat and he would leave people two tickets to the home game and if it was a road game he'd fly them in and put them up every week so we had this raffle and he pulled names out one week this lady came up first he went to me and said can i talk to chad i said i'm i don't i'm not gonna be the go-between I mean, you can get. I ain't his manager. And then she came up to Chad and said, hey, we got tickets. The hotel was great. The flight was great. But yeah, it was like 60 bucks for a cab. And I was like, you got to be shitting me. You got to Chad for the cab fare. I was like, people, man. Yeah. Joe, that's what Joe and I was talking about last week, about somebody being ungrateful. So you get two tickets, you get accommodations, you get a flight to the city, you get accommodations, and you mean to tell me you want the man to give you 60 bucks for a cat? I saw what happened. I saw what happened. I was like, you got to be kidding me. But see, when we talk about people, oh, man, that didn't happen. And guess what? Gary, and this is how the chat operates. Well, Chad, you making five, six million dollars. You should have just gave us $60. not thinking about what you had already done which you didn't have to do I was and I was like damn Ocho you giving our free tickets to the home game? He said no he was giving our tickets to road games he would fly them to the city give them tickets put them up and then somebody complained about not getting $60 for that I'm surprised Ocho they didn't say you didn't give us a per deal here's our here's our receipt for our beers and our fries I saw what happened I was so taken back by that I was disgusted I was disgusted by it But I tell you what You said July 17th If I'm here in Vegas Oh matter of fact You in Vegas on the 17th? Of July Matter of fact Joe make sure you block your calendars That'll be the show where I open for you Okay Okay Hey, Shannon Joe, he came through for my wedding. I can't say no. There's no way I can say no. And I'm going to be like, if I say no, I'm worse than the $60 people. Gotta let him go up. He did me a solid. He didn't charge nothing for the wedding. Yeah. Oh, Lord. Now I definitely gotta go. Yeah. Hey, Gary, I got some good material too. Well, I ain't, you ain't sell to me. Gary, Gary, give him five minutes and help him, Gary. Can you help him for five minutes, Gary? You can do something for him. No, hey, hey, hey, I'm good. I'm good in front of crowds. I'm very good in front of crowds. I'm very engaged, and I have something most people don't have. It's called stage presence. I become one with the crowd. I got you. Okay, okay. I can't wait. Yeah, fuck yeah. Hey, Gary, hey, Gary, just in case, have somebody on stand. Oh, yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no. It's not just going to be me and Chad. I'm going to have a problem. He sounds like a guy trying to get into porn. Dude, I perform. We're going to have this other dude waiting in the wings. Just in case. You got Mr. Marcus. Oh, man, that's unbelievable, man. Gary, thank you for joining us tonight, man. We appreciate this, man. Tell the family I said hello to the new wife, the new kids, man. Congratulations on all the success. Again, look down the road. I appreciate you guys. All right, baby. Congrats, bro. Yes, sir. Very funny Gary Owen, man. Hey, I mean, you know what? When you funny without trying to be funny, man. Hey, that's me. You hear me? Honjo? Huh? That's right up my alley, huh? I don't try to be funny sometimes I get on stage and they just start laughing before I even say anything well god damn can I tell the joke first yeah I just disappointed it at the people that after you did all that wanted $60 I mean I wasn't tripping I just gave them $60 out my pocket I really wasn't tripping I understood it everyone some people aren't in a position you know where they you know what I mean so I kind of saw it in that light well you shouldn't have went You shouldn't win. If you're not in a position, if you can't afford a cab fare from the airport to the hotel or the hotel to the game and vice versa, don't go. I understand. But I don't think winning two tickets, being able to go to a Bengals game out of town, and your room is already paid for, all you have to do is just check in and go to the game. I kind of saw it from their side and not having the fun. So I just gave them $6. Ocho, Ocho, Ocho, you did this for a full season, bro? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, hold on, Joe. We had games, right? We had seasons where I'm sure some people in the chat that have been watching football long enough, we had some games where the games was blacked out, Joe, because they didn't send enough tickets. Joe, I brought up the rest of the tickets so everybody in Cincinnati could watch the game. I refused to let our game get blacked out. Joe, I used to do some crazy stuff, boy, some crazy stuff just to make sure them people was entertained, man. You know what I mean? Yeah, man. You might be a high- Yeah, Joe, I'm a cool dude. I just- That just goes to show you. Ain't nobody watching the Broncos, they never had no black that day. Well, I mean, y'all ain't really had no bad days like we had, man. You gotta understand why when I got- That's what I been trying to tell you. Hey, Joe, we- But that's outstanding. I know I ain't buying no tickets. Joe, we was the laughing stock of the league, boy, when I first got there, boy. Hey, I know what you mean, old Joe. I know what you- Trust me, I promise you. What you played with was that bad? Yeah. Me? Atlanta. When I first got here, they had- When you first got Atlanta, the hog was terrible. Before I got here, they won nine games before I got here. Hell, when I got here, we didn't win but 29 damn games. Out of 82. Okay, okay. Out of 82? I know what it, out of 82, listen. So like, I know what it feel like when you walk into the arena. I'm talking about it's empty. We probably had three, four hundred people seem like in the state. It was bad, old Joe. And you can hear the basketball bouts, Joe. You can hear more than that. It was bad. You hear everything. Everybody talking, the conversation. Yeah, it was bad. It's hard to kind of get yourself going. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I done been there, bro. Damn. We won one game one year, two games the next year. I think seven one year. Oh, that's how y'all got Carson. Oh, yeah, exactly. Hey.