INTERVIEW: Carl Payne Talks ‘Jersey Love Comedy Show,’ Cosby Show, Malcolm-Jamal Warner + More

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In this Black History Month adventure, asking questions, thinking creatively, can lead to amazing discoveries. Listen to Adventures of Curiosity Cove every Monday from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hold up. Every day I wake up. Wake your ass up. The Breakfast Club. You all finished or you all done? Yep, it's a wild month of day This morning show The Breakfast Club Charlemagne the God DJ Envy Jess Hilarious Lauren LaRosa is here Envy's around here somewhere I don't know where the hell He at right now But we got a special guest In the building We do Carl Anthony Payne II This merch is very fresh By the way You like this, right? Yes Very fresh I bought this for y'all Very fresh Very fresh You got the Martin, Gina, Pam Tommy Cole I want the big Shirley one You guys The big Shirley joint Dope How are you first of all I'm good my brother How are you? You look good man You ain't Asian at all No he's not I do what I can do. I do what I can do what I can do it. You played some very memorable sitcom characters. When did you realize people weren't just watching, but they were connecting with your work? When did I realize that? There's a difference between connecting with the work and then like fame. Does that make sense what I'm saying? I think I was at a New Edition concert, right? I'll never forget this. during the Heida Cosby, right? I was at a New Edition concert, and I walked in in the dark, and I think the lights had came up, right? It was like the opener, and then they were about to perform. And I was going to my seat. What year was this? Right, right. It was like the 80s, early 80s. Early 80s, early 80s. And I was walking to my seat. I was getting ready to go to my seat, and the lights came up. And I'll never forget, It was like, I think Webster was there. Emmanuel Lewis, right? He was there. And I think, you know, they saw him and the crowd was going crazy. It's like, wow. I think Eddie Murphy was there. And, you know, you know. And then all these girls and all these people started coming down. And it was pointing in my direction. And I was like, who, who, who? And I'm turning around like, who they see? And it was like chaos. But it was me. Wow. And then they had to escort me backstage. Right? And I was like, that's, just that moment alone of just, because I was like, oh, who else is here? I was like, no, nigga, you. And I was like, oh, damn. What are they saying? Cockroach? Cockroach? Yeah, yeah, there was, I couldn't understand what they were saying. Bottom line is, that moment was crazy, and I'll never forget, my best friend at the time, he looked at me backstage, and he was like, because it was like, I'm going to get all the back on. You know what I'm saying? I was scared to death. I was shook. But he was looking like, oh, this is going to be great. I say it all the time. 80s and 90s fame. Nobody will ever achieve that level of fame ever again. The world is just too different. 80s was the best time ever. If you was alive during the 80s and you're still alive now, then you know what I'm talking about. The 80s was just different. It was like a revolution, right? Everything was about fun. Everything was happy. Movies was happy. clubs, everything was, it was a movement. I loved the 80s. I loved the 80s. That's why I don't understand about like when it comes to black culture, right? Like we always talk about what we're missing. We had it, the 80s, the 90s, especially, I'm talking about just TV and film. The 80s, the 90s, it was positive. It was black people depicted in a right light. Like, I don't know what happened. Yeah, well. Come on, give me some, I know you got to experience it there. What happened? A lot of things happened, man. I think, well, first of all, everything changes. Everything changes. Landscape change. Internet, that was huge. Social media, huge. And then it became like, it killed the celebrity, in my opinion. You know what I'm saying? Because then now anybody can be whatever. And then there's no mystery. There's nothing. Right? So it's like a lot of these things change. And that helped, to me, shape the landscape. And back then, you only knew a celebrity for their work. You didn't know their life. You didn't know who they were sleeping with. You didn't know if they did drugs or not. You know, you could probably take a guess because of how some of them acted. But I'm just saying, like, we weren't in their lives. You couldn't send them a DM and they see it. And you see that they read it. You know, y'all weren't accessible at all. Well, it used to be a club. It used to be a very special club that you had to have talent to be a part of. You had to really have something, right? One of three things, if not all three things, and it was an elite club. And that was that. You know what I'm saying? Before social media, to become a household name, you know the kind of work you had to put in? Do you know the kind of just... And you're right. It was always about the talent. It was always about the work. And, yeah. But it was appointment viewing, too. I mean, I was a Jehovah Witness, so on Thursday nights, we was at the Kingdom Hall, but we was recording Cosby's show to come home and watch. So you think about all of America gathering around a television when it's only like three, four channels at the time to watch one show. Like, I was looking at some numbers the other day, and I think one episode of Cosby's show had 65 million viewers, bro. Jesus, yeah. Yeah. It was incredible. It was incredible, and I was just blessed to be a part of it. You know what I'm saying? Like, it was super impactful, and I think the one thing, not even the one thing, the thing that lets you know how programming works and just the powerful impact of it. I mean, I think, I don't even know the numbers offhand, but the amount of young black individuals that decided to go to HBCUs, right? They decided to take their lives into a different trajectory, become lawyers, become doctors, to really put forth an energy and effort into not just like, okay, they wanted to be something different because we didn't have those images. We didn't have that. Even though they existed, they 100% existed, we just didn't have that. And it broke all kind of color lines and barriers and, you know. Something happened. I don't care what y'all say. There was a switch hit where they was like, there's too many black people becoming successful. What's the thing they call it when it's like, it's like you, what do they call it where it's like, now they act like it never existed, right? You know what I'm talking about? Like the different, Mandela effect. Mandela. Thank you. Thank you. You said Sinbad. You know what I'm trying to say. I heard it. Mandela. No, no, no, no, no. But because Sinbad was one of them. Like, that was one of the things. Like, it was like the movie Sinbad versus... Anyway, it was part of it. What about on, like, the network, like, power-making decision side of it? Like, what do you think... Something happened, man. Because, okay, like, I've heard you talk about, like, even with, like, Martin, like, when y'all were going through things on y'all set that execs knew things were happening, but they didn't really like step in and like make sure their stars were good because they just wanted to get through the episodes. Like, so how did that lack of like, you know, I guess empathy for y'all or understanding the impact from the network side, how did that get us to where we don't have, you know, a lot of these like big black shows on television? I don't know. I'm with Charlamagne. Something happened. Something happened. Something happened. I really don't know. I think, but I think everything happens in cycles, right? it's like I feel like we probably see a resurgence of that just in a different way right now because you gotta look at it right now there's all these verticals the microverse, microdramas and things like that so I think you're gonna see it again just in a different way Will it hit like y'all now? It won't because it's oversaturated it's oversaturated now the cream will always rise to the top so to speak if that makes sense but no it won't be the same Because it's a different environment right now. You understand what I'm saying? Which is why, in my opinion, right? Which is why, like, someone like Chappelle will make such a huge difference and impact, right? Because he's literally touching on and putting his finger on the pulse of what is happening right now. And to me, that was part of the secret sauce or the success at the time of Martin was the fact that we literally had our finger on the pulse, right? It was like, it was you hanging out with her and hanging out with her. And then we put it on TV. Wow. And it was like, you get to speak how we want to speak. We get to play how we want to play. And we bring in the culture to the culture. And we push in the needle of the culture. So, you know, in my opinion, that's why certain people will be more impactful right now. Because, but the climate of the country, the climate of everything right now is, it's not that, it's not the age. You see what I'm saying? It's not in the music. It's literally not in every aspect of culture or life. Yeah, I feel like there's a sense of community missing, right? Even when you talk about how all of y'all used to hang out, and it's on television, but we used to all hang out and watch y'all on TV. This is a community. Martin is a community. But it felt personal, right? It felt like, and that's the same thing with comedy, right? What's personal is actually universal. You know what I'm saying? And that's one of the things I had to learn when doing my comedy. When I first started, I was just a student of the game. I didn't know nothing. I had to pay my dues, the whole nine. And I thought it was just about jokes. but then I like I like took another look at and I was like no no I gotta treat this it like it's on art form and I have to approach it like I did with my acting I literally have to go to school again I literally have to like pay my dues and be in it immerse myself in it and I learned early on that you know how when you learn you learn you learn in the classroom which is on stage which is not a fun place to learn. But I learned early on that people really do want to know, like, you have to be vulnerable. You really have to, you know, and I was always scared of that. I was scared of that because I was like, yeah, they know, they don't know. They know, but they don't know. You were scared to be vulnerable? 100%. Okay. Yeah, because, listen, listen, the thing about acting, you get to be vulnerable, but you're playing a character. Got you. So you can literally pour your heart and soul into someone else. And you got people to lean on, right? Like a great basketball team. I throw to rock the jazz. Now it's her turn. But when you're on stage, you naked. It's you by yourself. And you're going to share something that you really hope that they connect with. On one level or not, it's like, you know, you're like, hey, I'm naked. You like this? You like that? You know what I mean? How long have you been doing comedy? I started a long time ago, but I really picked it back up in 2017. Because I remember you were in one of the clubs. You came to one of my dates. Yeah. I was down south, and he came to the show. He saw me do comedy, and he was saying that he was doing it, and I was like, oh, my God, Cole doing comedy. You know what I mean? But I just thought it was dope. What made you get into it, though? Because it was the scariest thing, man. Like you said, for me, it was a couple of things. It's like reinventing. It's like the next level of whatever, right? So let's go back. Coming up in the game, you always saw whatever show. Oh, you heard that? That is. You could have played it off, though. Yeah, nah, nah. It was too loud. It was way too goddamn loud. It was way too loud. Way too loud to play it off. It was like, y'all was looking like. All right, put it this way. If you see me do this, then that's something different. Yeah, yeah. Well, you know, because, you know, once you get to be a certain age, you can't pass gas. You can't pass gas and just sit straight up. Gas passes you. Nah, nah. You just be talking and just be like, damn. Give yourself a goddamn aneurysm trying to fart standing straight up. You got to lean with it. Rock with it. It was a couple of things. So, like I said, growing up, you always saw that there was always a comedian who was the anchor of a show. and then they would always support surround him with a great cast of actors and so early on i said dang that's the formula that's it and i had to ask execs and i would ask different people like why what why is this the formula and they were like oh because and then when they gave me that i was like okay one day i'm gonna do that one day i'm gonna do that because that's the formula but it's the scariest thing ever and i was like you said i was scared to be vulnerable i was scared i was I was like, man, but then I got into a place where I got to tackle my fears. I got to face that. I got to do everything I said I was going to do. Everything I set out to do in this business, in this industry, I said, I'm going to do it. Because I also saw it as a means to, first of all, a whole other revenue stream. Number two, open up a million other doors. And it's like everything that got me to where I was before, I had abandoned for some reason. Because you can get beaten down by this industry. you can get to a place where you're like, I don't want to do it no more. I quit. But yeah, I said, nah, this is going to be, I got to do this. And if I do it, I'm going to do it at the highest level. I'm not going to be doing it like some of the other people out there who just kind of just think that because they got a name, they could just jump out there and do it or whatever. You never had the bug before? I mean, being around Bill Cosby, being around Martin Lawrence, like you never had the bug to do it then? Nah. I mean, well, yes. Yes and no. yes and no because again i was just concentrating on doing my job you know like my role whatever role i had to play and whatever job i had to do and then they were you know they started calling me to host shows they started calling me actually you know who got me into this who really got me started was uh was reggie brumman really oh wow yeah and i found that out recently i actually thought it was another comedian but it was actually him because i actually started hosting and doing different shows and hosting and things like that. And then it was like, and that's really how you build your set. You know that. That's how you build your set when you put in the work. And yeah, he had put me on a show or suggested me with somebody, but I didn't know it was him. I didn't know it was him who had suggested me. Damn. Might tell me Ice Cube was supposed to play that character. What character? You said Brother Man? Yeah, yeah, Reginald. From the fifth floor? Reginald Ballad. Yeah. Somebody told me Ice Cube was supposed to play that character. I ain't never hear that. I ain't hear that. But you know, comedy looks effortless when it's done, Rachel. How much of your performance was instinct versus like technical craft? On stage? Yeah. All of it. All of it. Like, you got to combine it all. Because, I mean, put it this way. Living in the moment is a lot. It's the best feeling ever, you know, when you got your finger on the pulse of the crowd and you really, you know what I'm saying, you feel them out. Like, every crowd is different. Every audience is different. You got to know your audience, whether you in Seattle, Utah, wherever. So it's like, but living in the moment, you know, and then being able to apply all the technical things in that moment. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Because you could riff all day. You could riff all day, but what are you talking about? You still got to get into your material. Yeah, you have to have a set. You got to be able to talk about something like, you know, crowd work is crowd work. Okay, great. But who are you? And where are you pulling from with your material, right? So is it from years of you in industry? Is it you younger? Is it you... Everyday life right now. I'm a pop-pop. You know what I'm saying? I'm a pop-pop. I went from unk to OG. You know what I mean? Like, all right. I was like, I thought I was still unk. Now you OG now. All right, cool. How many drinkers you got? One two three five You a great dad for real Yeah You know what I saying And don look nothing like it So I like I just go from real life My youngest son I got four sons My youngest son is 19. And man, I tell you, he is Mr. Fafo. He is fuck around and find out guy all day long. And he provides, like, just real life, every day provides me with everything I need. Everything I need from being, like, coming here, being at the Delta Lounge, and in the lounge. We are the Delta Lounge. We are living in a fascist society. I'm like, and this is where you choose to do this. This is where you choose. Maybe it's not a time. Maybe it's not a place. But this is where you choose to do this. And I'm like, I'm sitting there eating my little minestrone soup. And I'm like, I can't make this shit up. I can't make this. This is my life. Every time, I can't make this up. Did he tell you he was going to go into protest? No. That's my point. I'm literally like. And I'm looking around like, yo, is this. Is this a joke? Like, this is really happening. Okay. Well, he saw something on the news. He was reading the paper. He was looking at the phone. I think he just chose it like he was one of those guys. And I'm like, first of all, how'd he get in here? But he got in here, and this is his audience right now. This is what he chooses. He's saying he's going to let y'all people know what y'all don't allow money. Yeah. I wanted to ask you, man, because you talked about how y'all used to take things from just being around each other and bring it to TV. And we saw Dashina Arnold recently say that's how her and Martin's relationship was on the show, right? Let me tell you something, yo. I stayed out of it. I was not that guy. I was not good at that. Oh, at the jokes and stuff? Oh, okay. No improv jokes? No, no. Listen, let me tell you something. Growing up, but see, that's the thing that we're missing right now. We was just talking about this earlier. Kids don't go outside and get their feelings hurt no more. You got to get your feelings hurt enough to build up enough tough skin to have some stuff to come back with it. Early on, when Cass was talking about my mama, I wanted to kill him. I didn't know how to just, but you go through that, right? You go through it, and you're like, oh, no, you can't get mad. So, yeah, we used to play a lot of games. We used to play you can't get mad games all the time. But they would go way too far. Oh, what, off it? They would go way too far. And I know, I was like, yeah, I'm not in there. Especially her and Martin, they would just go at it. I mean, she was, and then I think it was Tisha's husband at the time, Dwayne, he would try to jump in, and Tashina was the best, yo. I don't know if it came from, you know, growing up, you know, when you grow up here in the city, you grow up here in the city and then you got, you know, you got a lot of gay friends and things. They know how to cut on you. They, and she used to be like, and Dwayne would say something stupid and she'd be like, I'm sorry, I can't hear you because you don't have a basketball in your hand. So I don't, I can't. And she never turned it off. She never turned it off. And then he would say something stupid and talk about what he did. And she was like, I know. Oh, yes, you were almost to Nick. I know. Almost. You were selling out YMCA's? Is that what you were doing? Damn. I ain't got a basketball background. But you know what I'm saying? I was like... Hurting niggas' feelings. Niggas' feelings, yo. And that's why I'd be like, eating my minestrone soup. Look, you ever be laughing and then Martin or Tashini be like, I know you ain't laughing. No. No? No, no, no, no. Okay. No, no. I was definitely agitated. I was definitely... Ah! Ah! Yo, for real? You gonna let her say that? Get her, son. Get her! Get her! Damn. So how did the Cole character develop it? Because Cole was definitely dumb on the show. But he didn't start off dumb. But you know what though? I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. That's funny because look, here's the thing. Here's how it developed. I felt like he and I were very close, Martin and I, in terms of characters, right? Starting off and I was like, well, I gotta do something to kind of separate us. Because you know, Tommy was a straight guy. you know and you can see everybody else's thing right then i was like okay it was always and that was at the time when all of the um everybody all the black designers was coming out you know cross colors boo boo everybody so i was getting a ton of gear ton of gear and i was like and it was always dressing me real real you know i was like okay let's start with the clothes let's talk and it's like the thing as an actor when you do your homework you say okay let's build this character who is this guy who is this guy in in this circle of friends but who is he you know where did he come from you know who and how does he fit in this in this thing and that's how i started building on him and then i was like there's a certain innocence about cold there's a certain naivety right like so whereas you thought he was dumb i'm like no he just innocent he just he believes everything he lives in his own world but it's okay because they know him there he the mayor Got you. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? There's nothing you can't tell me he's not committed to. He believes everything he's saying. He might have smoked weed, too. Maybe, maybe. Because you know when you see you got cats that you know, and then they be like, let me tell you what we going to do. You going to get these niggas soup for free. That element would have made a lot of sense. Right, but I can't give you that. You feel me? But I can put that in there. I felt like Cole was his most genius when he met Shanice. Because Shanice was dumb as they come. I was like, Lord. Which was kind of funny because it's like she took it to the next level. She was dumb squared. Yes. Was her character always supposed to be dumb? Or did you tweak that because it complimented your character? A little. Yes. So, yes, we did tweak that to answer that yes. Yes, but I think they wrote it like that too. They wrote it like, oh, that is his soulmate. This is the one that gets him, that he has to look at like people look at him. Make sense? Yeah, because Big Shirley wasn't the soulmate. No, well, yes she was. Yes she was. She was? She was. Yes she was. Big Shirley was definitely the soulmate. Of course she held him down. Yeah, I'm always the one she held me down. Yeah. Big Shirley was one of the most positive depictions of a fat person on TV ever. Big girl. And we never saw her. Big girl. Big girl. She was a real person? Yeah, Big Heart. Not a, she, well, yeah. They never showed her on the show. They showed parts of her, like her shadow. You know what though? They did show her one time early on. No. I've never seen every episode. Early on, and I think it was during the fight party or somewhere around that type of episode. I don't remember that one. Yeah, yeah, she fell asleep on the couch. She was insecure, she was like, so literally, she literally grew. This is Big Shirley right there? Wait a minute, turn around, let me see. With this black and white on? Boom, yeah. She wasn't even big. That's my point. She got bigger as the show went on. She was just thick. She just is thick right here. I always thought she was like, my 600-pound. No, no, no. She did. She got bigger as the show went on. To the point where you couldn't even see her on the screen. That's hilarious. Why do you think that humor still hits all these decades later? Because Martin's always on in reruns. You know what? To tell you the truth, I don't know. I don't know, see, I feel like it was just representative of a time, like you said, of an era that represented fun. It represented, you know, everything that we all stood for that, again, it was like, I know him. I know her. It was relative. It was relativity. And then you see yourself in it because, like, I see myself as Pam. I'm always, I had a lot. I had a few homegirls going up, but I used to hang with the guys. and I would be riffing and cracking on them. And that's how I learned improv. I learned doing that, you know, from watching all four. Y'all was my friends, too. You know what I'm saying? You know, so that, the nostalgia, the nostalgia of that made me like a comedian. Like, that's what I wanted to do, you know? And so with that being said, when people talk about like older reboots and I want to see more and remade, I always have a problem with it because I feel like a time like that can't be remade because those are not the times that we're living in right now. We would have to touch on too many other things that would kind of blur the funny, you know, and blur the realism of what's going on. And you know what's interesting about that, Jess, is I think that it could have been done at one time. It could have been done. The timing of it would have had to have been specific. It could have been done, but you're right. Certain stuff you don't need to touch. certain things you definitely just need to, you know, because you can't capture that same lightning in a bottle. And you're right, it would have to be done in a way that is indicative and speaks to today. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I think for the show, I think we talked about this one time, too. We talked about this early on. For the show, the show could have actually continued to live on in infamy in a cartoon form. Because no one gets old, no one dies, and it stretches across generations. like that would have been and we had talked about doing it like that so I don't I don't even think I mean you couldn't you couldn't do it now without Thomas you can't that was the thing that's why I said the timing of it yeah you know and like he was my best friend in real life so you know the timing of all of that was crazy but he was your best friend in real life and you still didn't get into comedy because he was a stand up too but but he wasn't he wasn't no I've seen him on stage before I've never seen him on a stand up no no no that's what I'm saying he taught me a lot he taught me a lot He definitely taught me a lot about the business, about everything. So I think he was one of the people who influenced me the most coming up during that time. You know what I mean? Like when we first started working on the show, I think about a month or two after we started working, you know, he had like this Jeep, you know, Jeep Wrangler joints, right? Then he like, everybody started buying stuff because we're getting money now, right? He started buying things. He flipped it and he got himself a Land Cruiser. And he milked it out. Whited it, everything. It was like uptown. It was like it belonged in front of the rooftop, right? And I'm looking at it. I'm like, damn. And the dude dropped it off. And I saw him give this dude a check for like $15,000. And I'm like, what's that for? He was like, no, that's just for the, you know what I said. How much you getting paid? He was like, what you mean? I think we getting paid. I said, we can't be getting paid the same. I can't do that. You giving just for accessories? I can't do that. He was like, yeah, no. I said, how much you getting paid, Tommy? And then he was like, well, first of all, he's like, you're incorporated, right? I was like, huh? Immediately, he was like, no, you're not incorporated? I was like, what was incorporated? He put me up on being incorporated and incorporated myself. He was like, no, you get the whole check. You pay yourself as a company, as an entity. I was like, what? I done lost all this money for the last two months You know what I mean Not that I'm going to run out and do that But my point being So he was teaching me a lot of stuff He took me to the golf course with him And he was like this is where deals are made You're going to want to do this later in life Trust me Yeah he put me on How did his death impact you? It was rough It was really rough Because I think We would talk all the time Like every other day we speak right and you know after the show you know we catching jobs here and there you know we putting each other in different films we're doing things with each other right or if he's doing a speaker he was very he was very he was a huge child advocate he was a huge advocacy for you know our culture and just being black men in general right being responsible being responsible so um he had just had knee surgery and so he was talking and he was like yeah man i'm in i'm and recovery and, you know, rehabbing and this, that, and the other. So I just spoke to him. You know what I mean? And then Tashina had called me. She was like, Carl, you spoke to Tommy? Well, she said something like, you heard about Tommy? And I was like, yeah, yeah, man. You know what I'm saying? He said he's getting his knees, you know, his knees is messing with him. She was like, no, Carl, no. I said, what you mean? She was like, you got to go to Atlanta now. He said his girl called him last night and was like, he's in a coma. I was like, what you talking about? I just spoke to him yesterday. Stop playing with me. And so when I went down there, yeah, it was, seeing him like that was kind of wild. Because, you know, you just speak to somebody, then you see him in the bed with the, and then the room had this aura and this feeling and a smell that I will never forget. You know what I'm saying? And, yeah, so it was one of those caught off guard type things. And I know that it was just me, his wife, and the priest in the room. And then, wow, we pulled the plug. Wow. That's all she wanted in the room. Hmm. She was like, Carl, I need you to talk to the press. I can't deal with it. I said, all right. So I had to, like, keep all of my stuff together. Yeah. to try to be strong for those, you know. But yeah, it was deep. Did you give yourself an opportunity to grieve? Are you still grieving? Grief is not linear by any means. Yeah, no, I think... Y'all ain't gonna get me on here doing the Tyrese. Fuck y'all. Niggas got the tissues on deck. No, we're not doing that. No, it's not all the time. We're not, whatever, nigga. We're not doing that. Not about, he started zooming in and shit. No, no, no. My shirt got tight just now. Nigga, no. Not even. Oh, fuck out of here. Oh, man. Yeah. Black men do cry. Not today, though. No, no, I have given myself a chance to grieve for sure. I just think it's one of those things where the older I get, the tighter my circle. I don't have a lot of people in my circle because, you know, you start, you know what I'm talking about. You start weeding folks out. They weed themselves out for a reason. And then your circle becomes a matter of relevance, importance, and excuse me, all of the above. And it was like, so, you know, that person does not exist in my circle. You know what I mean? yeah but but what it did teach me was how random and how short life is man you can't take nothing for granted yeah you know you can't take so even now like just those who you know may have made an impact or who influenced you in some way you know you call you got to call your people you got to check them you got to just say what's up even because you know you can still have friends that you don't speak to every day but still you got to just reach out to folks and be like yo you good I'm just checking. You good? All right, cool. Yeah. And to live life differently, right? Because it's random. It's super random. So you got to cherish these moments. You got to take time. I think we'd be so caught up in our bubble and our goals, and we'd be so focused on X, Y, and Z, but we don't take time to be right here, right now. Like, this fellow, like, first of all, congratulations to y'all, man. This is beautiful. How you got here, how you got here, how you got here. Thank you. South Carolina boys, baby. He got $200 million. You know? What? He definitely did. He got $200 million. What happened? He got $200 million, she said. Stop listening to them. They crazy. Either way, big ups. Big ups. You know what I'm saying? And I don't take this moment for granted. I don't take... God put me in this room right now with y'all for a reason. We appreciate having you. Absolutely. You know what I'm saying? So, man, you speak about random, and not to stay on this, but how did Mr. Michael DeWall Warren's death impact you? I'm glad you brought that up. That's interesting. I had lost my father. I don't know if you know. I lost my father. The day I buried my dad. The day that we was like... What? The day I buried my father. The day they put him in the crematory. Where they were... That same day. What? I had just left. And I'm sitting in a restaurant. Because we're all going to grab something to eat. My brother, no. He was there. And I'm sitting there, I had just ordered. My sister walks over to me with the phone and goes like this. Damn. And I was like. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I can't process that right now. Because at first I thought it was a joke. I thought it was like a hoax. Because you know how every now and again there's always a rumor. They'll kill us off. You know what I'm saying? Thankfully they haven't done that to me yet. They'll be the Facebook people. I don't know what it is. But I'm just saying I couldn't process it at the moment. Like I literally could not process that at that moment. And what's crazy is how everybody was calling me, you know, like, sorry for your loss. And I'm thinking they're talking about my dad. And they're talking about Malcolm. Because to them, what we represented was like the ultimate friendship, right? This was something that, even if they didn't know the level of whatever, to me, they did think that. They thought we were best friends in real life. So people were calling me saying that. And it was very weird It was very weird times That was random You used to be going random That was was so it was super random and again another reminder another i mean i don know all the details you know but i think he was on vacation or something right he was on vacation and i was like wow and so my heart went out to his family like i felt like man i can't imagine like i wouldn't want to you know what i'm saying but i know his mother lost a son you know what i'm saying his daughter lost their loss is nothing in terms of him compared to, you know what I mean? Does that make sense what I'm trying to say? Yeah. I felt more for them, but I was also processing my own situation at that time. Probably your own immortality in a lot of ways. Yeah. Bro. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 100. 100. 100. How do you protect your identity outside of the characters people love so much? I don't try to protect it, to be quite honest with you. I can't speak for people, right? 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And people who know me know that. Sometimes people find out the hallway. You know what I'm saying? Like, because, you know, but I try to be as nice and as genuine as possible. Like, I mean, I don't know if you've heard stories about me or not, and I don't really care, you know. But I know one thing is I'm always going to be my authentic self. So, you know, and it's just one of those things where it's like I can't live my life worried about what other people think or how to separate that from that. My circle is my circle. family you know what I mean like those who I care about those who care about me that's the piece that's where I need the piece mentally what is it like when you play a character like Cole yeah and cockroach and people only see you as that for the first time like when you experience someone who really doesn't in real life separate the two for the first time how is that for you mentally because it's probably weird to experience that like for the first time it it still happens for the first time all the time like it happens every day it happened in a parking lot across the street right it's just wild like when people encounter me or encounter that they think you're that so they're like you know and and they and that's another reason why i started doing stand up too because it's like they gotta know people need to know who carl pain is yeah you know what i'm saying like they gotta understand that everything i did was just a stepping stone for the next thing right but i was carl pain first right these characters and that's what happens sometimes you get stereotyped you get stuck in some of these iconic characters or whatever like and every big star has gone through it from eddie murphy to sylvester sillon to whoever right what's up but honestly i take it i take it with a grain of salt I don't get offended by it. I'm never offended by it because I feel like... It's a blessing too, though. That's what I'm saying. God put me in a position to make an impact. That's part of my legacy, right? That's part of my... That's part of what... My stomach is going wild, by the way. I feel like when you get put in position, when you've been blessed with favor, when you've been given a gift and you share that gift because that's your... And that was one of the things Tommy taught me. He was like, your gift is not yours. My grandmother told me that. Your gift ain't yours. You know growing up in the South, your gift is not yours. Your gift and your purpose are tied together. And when you're living in that, you know it. And you don't take that for granted. So when people who don't know me, that just goes, oh, I got more work to do. I got more work to do. I got more work to do. Because, again, I was Carl Payne first. So now you get to know who Carl Payne is. When you come see me on stage, you're like, oh, he's Pop Pop. He's a father. He's a this. He's a that, and I can relate to that shit because he's saying the wild shit that I think, but I never say out loud. Or the thing that I go through all the time, but I just never, I didn't know you went through that too. Yeah, yeah, I got caught with my dick in my hand, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Right, relatable things. Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying, right? You know, figuratively. Please shut up. He gonna be like, so. You got caught with your dick in your hand, Jeff. You hate retarded people with dicks in their hand? What? What did I walk into? Yo, sound like that. Your man no big plan. You know what? I'm stopping. So you got let go from the Cosby show, right? Yes. Yes, I did. Was it for having your dick in your hand? Jesus Christ. What did I look into? I had my dick in my hand, and I was talking to this retarded girl. All while Bill was making cappuccinos, and he had all these white women in the room, and I was like, what is this? What's so funny, though, is back then there was two things my dad used to use as an example. I don't even know if this is true. He used to talk about a family member who didn't remove an earring. That's why he didn't make the pros as a baseball player. And you're not wanting to cut your hair on Cosby's show. I don't know if that's true. It's not true. It's not true. I told a story once before. I told a story once before. And, you know, I don't do interviews a lot. So I've only spoke about it one time. What happened was it was the ball-headed episode. I remember that one. The bald head episode. And the guy who they had working as the barber, whoever he was, right, he hot-combed my joint. He hot-combed it, right, to make it lay down so it could fit under the bald wig. Excuse me. And we didn't shoot in order. We shot, like, out of order, so to speak, right? And my hair, they tried to get it back. It didn't match from what we had shot earlier. And, you know, Bill had this thing about not, you know, natural hair and all of this other stuff like that and all of this, that, and the other. And he thought, I did it. And I was like, talk to your mans in them. I do this, you know. And I feel like there was a lot more going on at that time because to be let go for something like that. Oh, no. He thought you did what? Curled your hair back up? No. Straightened it. Yeah, he thought I did it. He thought, like, I put a perm in it or something. And I'm like, no, why would I do that? Like, that's crazy. He just had a bad day that day. That's what I'm trying to say. Like, I feel like there was more going on to be let go for something like that. And I just never spoke on it. I never let people run wild with all kind of stories for years. I don't care. But, you know, why would I? Like, that's the most arrogant thing for me. I won't cut my hair. Like, that's the stupidest thing ever. Of course I cut my hair. I've been bald for real. But that's what happened. Wow. And he thought I did it. That's crazy. He thought I did it. And I was like, no, sir. That's not what happened. Did I ever spoke after that? I heard about that, too. I heard y'all spoke, and you cursed him out. Well, I mean, because he was cursed. Listen. I thought he don't curse. Duh. Yeah, no, look, look. It was, you know, he's a very interesting man. Let's just say that. He's a very interesting man. Sometimes, you know, people like ketchup when it's cold. I like it when it's warm. I don't like to put my ketchup in the refrigerator. So what was the conversation about? You fired me for cutting my hair? How was it? And what was it? How far after was that? Well, first of all, it was a very in-the-moment thing that happened that was kind of, you know, it was very... high energy, high intense at the time because it was ridiculous. And then, you know, sometime later, saw him again and, you know, he had some very wild things to say then too, you know, which was interesting. I'm like, oh, okay. So Jell-O Pudding Pops is just a commercial. Just an act. I get it. I get it. But, you know, again, I don't talk about old stuff. I don't talk about things that just is, you know, because I feel like this. There's a blessing in everything. Everything that happens happens for a reason. And so what that did was at that time, it opened my eyes to a lot of things in terms of this industry, how it can be, things that can happen. If you built for this type of thing, you know what I'm saying? but it also like sometimes when you you're being rejected you you really just being redirected that's right you know what i'm saying so divine misdirection yeah yeah so so at the time you don't see that at the time you're just like devastated or whatever the case may be and and again as i've gone on in life and i've been asked about this a million times i'm not i'm never going to disparage another man his name regardless regardless to how i feel about it regardless to whatever happened then you know because i feel like things that happened at that time was that time i can't speak for somebody else's mental capacity or or whatever they're going through i can't speak for nobody else and i'm not going to speak disparaging on somebody else it happened it was what it was i did what i did i didn't do that and my life continued to prosper you know You know what I'm saying? I was a part of, I've been a part of some great things. Classics. You know what I'm saying? And so therefore I already know God got his hand on me. You know, he's got something for me. I'm still here. I'm still doing my thing. So. Was that your last question about that? Was that your first offense on God's show? As far as I knew. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like as far as I knew, I never got like warnings about anything. I never got nothing. But there are always stories about that being like a really tight ship. Like I always heard the story about the Lisa Bonet firing because they didn't want to write her pregnancy into the show and like stuff like that. Listen, I was so not into none of that. Like honestly, I was just a kid having a ball. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I was a hood star. You know what I mean? Like I was on the number one show in America having a great time and just like I saw the interview that you guys did with him and you know, the narrative that somebody else may have created or tried to say. With Malcolm, Malcolm, you mean? Yeah, yeah. Like, I was never jealous of him. It's not my pedigree. Look, when you're raised in Harlem, when you come from certain places, when you see another man shining, you be like, what's up? You see somebody pull up in a whip, you be like, yeah, yeah. Catch me on Saturday. I'm going to have mine too. You know what I mean? Like, I was never envious or I was super happy and thankful to be a part of the show on a whole, just in general. You know what I mean? But yeah, no. I was thinking back on the question that you was asking. I think everything just happens for a reason. Yeah. It kind of makes sense now, though. If there's a narrative that you're jealous of somebody, they might just be waiting for the right opportunity to get you out of it. Of course. Of course. But you see what I'm saying? but you're always the last to know about that narrative. Think about it. I'm sure this has happened to everybody in this room in their career. When you're doing you and you're living life just being you, someone else is always going to feel some sort of way about that, especially if it's not their life, right? Sometimes they see a light in you. Sometimes they see something in you that they want. I'm pretty sure you've been called arrogant and cocky and all these different things, but it's your confidence. And a lot of times confidence comes off as that, you know, especially to some people who may be a little insecure or not or whatever. And I'm not speaking on nobody in specific. I'm just speaking in general. And in this business, in this industry, you have to be. Like Mike Epps just said in his special, he was delusional, right? So think about all of us. You got to be a little delusional. You got to be a little cocky to think that you're going to beat out a hundred other people for a role. That's real. Right? To think that you're going to make it. Out of everybody on the planet you going to make it You going to be the one you have a little bit of that energy you gonna have to have a little bit you gonna carry yourself sometimes with that energy especially if you if it's coming from a place of this is god this ain't me yeah but others don't recognize that right and so sometimes it gets misconstrued or mistaken and again you're always the last to know know how someone feels about you. You're always the last to know. Malcolm said in that interview, though, that you guys had gotten to a good place and y'all were having better, like, adult-grown conversations. 100%. Look, we were kids. We have audio if you want to play. Y'all had the audio? Yeah, we got the audio. Are you still cool with cockroach? Carl Anthony Payne. Hilarious, of course. We're cooler as adults than we were during that time. Really? What? Y'all didn't get along, baby? No, no. Not at all? No. This young ego? Yeah. That's what it was. The original callbacks for Cosby, they flew in an actor, from Chicago and flew in an actor from New York. Carl was the actor. They flew in from New York. So had I not auditioned for the show, Carl would have played Theo. I'd have looked at you every day and see you took my part. And then I got to come back and play your best friend. So, you know, I think on one hand, that was part of it. And he just had a huge ego. From New York. You know, yeah, he had a huge ego. So, and I didn't come from that kind of place. The way I felt then and the way I feel now, you know, based on my career, if anybody, you know, should walk around with a huge ego, it should be me. And if I don't roll like that, I don't really, I have very little tolerance for people who roll like that. We really, we just never really got along back then. But, you know, we're grown now. And, you know, and Carl's been through a lot. Like his journey is, you know, it's been, you know, he's had a journey. As adults, we've been able to like sit down and have conversations. And we're in a very cool grown man place now. that's good yeah yeah 100 i mean i think it's interesting some of the things that he said that's water by the way brother this is just water just regular water monster makes water for their bikers and stuff so but they can't have regular water so they make their own water for and they just put it in the same can i'm thinking what you want me to if you don't believe it i'm just like you know all right you have to ask that question on the set of the Cosmic Show? It's just water. Wow. Wow. Yo, please stop, yo. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. No, I think it's interesting. I think it's interesting. Like I said, yeah, we were kids, man. We were kids. It was the 80s, you know? Different time. Different time, different energy. We come from two different places. you know like I said people don't you don't always mesh you don't always understand you know when you got different energies and things of that nature you know what I'm saying um I think some of the word choices he chose was very interesting to say like you know um in terms of like what what he felt I guess at that time that he felt like he should have been the cocky one or he should have been the one with the ego the one with the ego or whatever the case may be and and both of y'all had great careers and tolerable and those kind of words and things of that nature is very interesting um but again i we were kids we were kids you know what i'm saying but again i never ever had any type of uh and people who know me people who were around back then they know i was had no hatred in terms of somebody else's success. I was happy to be a part of that joint. Glad to be a part of it. Blessed. Are you kidding me? And I worked for it. I didn't just, it wasn't handed to me. Like, I literally had to audition for, over the year following that, I had to audition for the part of the boyfriend, the this, the that. I kept auditioning back to back over and over and over again for all these other roles, including that one and then when that one came along I just happened to I guess my persistent and consistency paid off in terms of that but yeah yeah nah but then you know you grow up and you start seeing okay we was kids back then you know whatever that was I don't even know what that was right you go what was that and you see somebody else doing good and you're like okay you're a father now I'm a father we all it's yeah yeah yeah you know what I'm saying like To me, it's kid stuff, right? Whatever happens. And that's why I say when I do interviews or talk about things, it's like, why are we talking about something that happened? Co-workers and brothers, brothers fight. Family fights. They don't get along. And then you got family members who never speak to each other again because they're reneging in spades. You know what I mean? They can't even come to the cookout. They can't even come because they're still mad about dumb stuff, man. I don't have time for that in my life, man. I love everybody. I only got a couple more questions, but what role taught you the most about yourself as a man? Our role or environment? What role or environment taught me the most about myself? The role of life. The role of life, brother. The role of life every day. There's no, because everything I do in terms of those characters, I put my real life into it. in some way, aspect or another. But life is always the best teacher. You know, being the role of a father, being the role of a grandfather, being the role of a husband, being the role, all these different things. That's, you know, you're a family man, right? You're a family man. You know, there's always going to be something that humbles you. There's always going to be something that makes you appreciate what, you know, what you have, what you don't have, all of the above. and then you can take those life experiences and throw them into your comedy. You can throw them into a character. It's easier sometimes, like I said earlier, when you're playing a character, because even though it's your face, it's still a mask. You know what I'm saying? It's like you're really pouring into something else, but when you're on stage, you're not saying, hey, I'm up here representing Jess Hilarious. I'm not Jess. I'm just Jess. Right. You know? Yeah. And that brings me to Young Dylan, because me and my son watched it together, right? That's been my favorite. That's been my favorite. All right, cool. Because I wanted to answer the question for you when he asked you that, but it's not my interview. But I was like, I feel like the role of the dad that you play in Young Dylan is more so who you resonate with now, because you are Pop Pop. You are the father. You're showing that you're also teaching Young Dylan the way of life. You know what I mean? And being his dad. So like, I felt like. That was a perfect role. That was a perfect role at the perfect time. Like, it's like, I really didn't have to do no work. You know what I'm saying? Like, and I do that anyway. Like, I go around the country speaking to kids. You know, I'm very big on mental health. I'm very big on taking up the torch where Tommy left off in terms of just talking to the youth and trying to get them to understand, not trying to get them to understand, but passing along my knowledge. passing along my game. Anything that could help them change their lives. Like I've had other comedians, I've had people come up to me and say, like Billy Sorrells, for example, right? He was like, do you know I became a comedian and an actor because of you? I said, what do you mean? He said, you came to my school. I was in the third grade. Wow. He said, and you spoke to me. You pulled me aside. And you know what I'm saying? And stuff like that. That's dope. Stuff like that. Or guys in jail talking about they were able to get through it. You know what I'm saying? Somebody was like, I was going to kill myself, but then I started watching. It's like, so that tells me that I'm on the right path. It's meaningful. That God has, like I said, blessed me, given me a craft that ties into my purpose, which is about changing lives. Laughter is healing, right? And if I can use this platform or any other platform to heal somebody, to be able to change somebody, make an impact, a positive impact. To me, that's legacy. That's success. To be able to affect people's lives positively, right? Starting with your own core at home, starting with your family. Then I did my job. You just answered my last question. That's all I was going to say. When it's all said and done, how do you want your contribution to the game to be remembered? Just that, you know, I did my thing. I did my thing thing, and I left a positive impact on the world. Because I said that when I started. When I first started out, the thing that made me want to do this, my father, you know, it's a weird family. My father has had a very positive and, no, it's all positive. It's all positive. Because sometimes when things happen to you, like you said, when you get fired or you get let go, you've been fired. Four times. But I'm saying you would just be redirected, right? I think there was an incident that happened when I was a kid. And this would be in my book and in my one-man show. I can't give it to you right here. But something happened. And I swore when I was in my bedroom. Growing up in the projects in Harlem, it was different. It was different, different. and I remember we were doing these reports, and they had us looking at the obituaries. Why would you tell a young black man to do a report on an obituary? So I'm looking at this obituary, and I'm seeing everything that I see around me in real life, and I'm looking at this obituary, and I'm being surrounded by all of this. And this is like at the back of the daily news. I said, you know what? I want to do something one day. I said, no, I'm going to do something. I'm going to do something that's going to mean something. I'm going to do something in my life that's going to mean something, and my name is going to stand for something. I'm not going to be a blurb on the back of the daily news. I'm not. I'm going to make a difference, and I'm going to do something, and everybody's going to remember my name. Wow. You did that. Absolutely. You did that. Conroe, stop just joking. Stop playing, man. I didn't want to find a match. Yo, yo, yo. Okay, check it out. Now we're time for all the other stuff, right? Comedy in Harlem. Got to come see me this week. Comedy. This is a New York takeover. I know we had the most somber interview I've ever had in my life. Comedy in Harlem. You know, that's going down Friday. It's a New York takeover. Comedy in Harlem on Friday. Tee Breezy. Tee Breezy Entertainment. Where we at? Saturday. Saturday the 14th. He keeps saying Friday. Saturday. No, no, no, no. No, Friday I'm in Comedy in Harlem. Okay. Saturday Saturday the 14th where we at? in Jersey City and JCU Jersey Love yeah oh JCU performing on center Jersey Love Comedy we got 2 Ray Rudy Rush D-Lay we got a whole bunch you know what I'm saying oh my god yeah yeah and I'm the surprise host surprise over yeah I'm the guest host I'm the guest host for the weekend there and then on Sunday yo I'm starting to do these things around first of all I'm getting ready to go on tour so everybody go to my page I'm gonna give it to y'all so you can see because I'm getting ready to do my one-man show. And it's coming to Broadway. Wow. That part. Wow. Yeah, because I love John Leguizamo. I love Whoopi Goldberg. Like, I love to where I can put my acting skills with the comedy, but take you on this whole journey, you know, with this catharsis. I love that. I haven't seen one since Tyson. Mike Tyson did one. That was fantastic. That's what I'm doing. So just understand what's about to happen. Your boy's about to take it there. Understand what's going to happen there. so yeah I'm gonna give you all the dates for being on tour but I'm also starting this other everybody started doing these little bingo joints you been to the little bingo thing I've been seeing them a lot more yeah yeah I'm doing one on Sunday I'm doing a bingo brunch Martin Trivia bingo brunch on Sunday in Brooklyn where we at Kirk Captain Kirk 1000 Broadway Captain Kirk 1000 Broadway and then I'm at your spot what's up the mall American Dream yeah next week Dope. Next week. What you doing there? Yeah, they didn't call you about that. They found out you're Dominican. What am I doing there? They found out you're Dominican. What am I doing there? They're not doing you on nothing black stuff no more. I'm going to do my rendition of the Halftime Super Bowl show. Next week. Yo. So I've been to... Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Yeah, so I'm doing that. Yeah, I'm doing them all. What's that? American Dream Mall. American Dream Mall. I'm doing that next week. The 19th. Okay. Well, what I want to say is I love you and I appreciate you, yo, because... I love you too, Jess. I grew up watching you and I never thought that I would, you know, think when you watch somebody on TV, you will grow up and meet them one day, right? And then I grew up watching you and then you came to my show and you watched me and you laughed because I'm funny, nigga. So I love you. I appreciate you. But you know why I came? And I appreciate you too. You know why I came? Because I saw something in you. I saw something in you. Like I would see you online and I, you know, and you know how it is. It's like everything now is like, it's different, different. That's all I got to say. And as I'm studying the game and studying people, I'm like, and you know, you're like, okay, who am I going to team up with one day, right? And does she have it? Because you see a lot of these internet comedians and a lot of cats that was just blowing up on the internet, they couldn't hold the hour. They couldn't hold it. You know, and I'm not hating on nobody. So I'm going to go see if you can do it. And I came and she delivered and killed. and I was like, you should get busy. That's what I'm talking about. Appreciate that. And I think it's too, I think too, because you saw it too, right? You studied it. You respected the craft. You respected the art. I think. I do. I saw that in you. And you're mad talented. You're mad funny. Congratulations. You're right where you're supposed to be. You're on your way. You're out of here. Thank you. For real, for real. For real, for real. Well, there you have it. Call Anthony Payne the second. We appreciate you for joining us. I bought you some stuff. What's the website, man? What's the website, man? Where? Where's the website? That was the blackest shit I've ever heard in my life. Right there. So the tag. So the tag. Listen, man, listen. Do you have it? Listen, no, it's not. Yo, what's the website? Nobody know the website. It's Carl Anthony Payne. It's Carl Anthony Payne Entertainment. Carl Anthony Payne Entertainment. Carl Anthony Payne Entertainment. Carl Anthony Payne Entertainment. Tee Breezy Entertainment. Yes. Lauren La Russa. Charlamagne Tha God. South Carolina Boys in the building. Yes, sir. DJ MZ. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Thank you for coming, brother. White boy behind the boards. He's Puerto Rican. Puerto Rican. Oh, I can't see. All I can see is eyes and red hair, yo. I can't see. He's like, what was that show? The guy with the fence. I can't even see you. I can't even see you, man. My bad, sir. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. 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