Ciara’s Guide To Manifesting Convictions Into Reality
63 min
•Nov 20, 20255 months agoSummary
Ciara discusses her journey of manifesting success through conviction, discipline, and faith, from her early career goals at 13 to building a thriving marriage and family. She shares insights on defining love, maintaining relationships, and embracing life's new chapters with intentionality and joy.
Insights
- Manifestation requires clear definition and conviction, not just wishful thinking—Ciara visualized specific qualities in her future partner before meeting her husband
- The 'just me' phase is essential for personal growth and self-evaluation before entering new relationships or life chapters
- Long-term relationship success depends on continuous effort, honest communication, and intentional date nights rather than assuming love sustains itself
- Discipline paired with passion is the foundation of sustained success; military upbringing instilled goal-setting and execution habits
- Speaking life into existence is a practice—avoiding negative self-talk and maintaining positive conviction shapes outcomes and resilience
Trends
Wellness and self-care as status markers among high-net-worth women (fitness, Spanish fluency, spiritual practices)40s reframed as peak years for women with resources, wisdom, and confidence ('40s are the new 20s with money')Intentional goal-setting and vision boards gaining mainstream adoption among entrepreneurs and professionalsFaith and spirituality as core business and personal development frameworks, not separate from ambitionRelationship maintenance as active work requiring scheduled time, communication protocols, and mutual effortParental involvement and information control as response to digital access and social influence on childrenSelective friendship circles prioritizing quality over quantity, with clear boundaries and values alignmentManifestation and visualization practices becoming normalized in mainstream business and personal development discourse
Topics
Manifestation and visualization techniques for career and personal goalsDefining love and non-negotiables in relationshipsMarriage maintenance and long-term relationship communicationParenting strategies in the digital ageEntrepreneurship and business ownership for womenFaith and spirituality in personal developmentFriendship boundaries and selective social circlesAging and life transitions (entering 40s)Self-care and wellness routinesLanguage learning and cultural engagementDiscipline and goal-setting frameworksPassion versus passion-driven decision makingVulnerability and emotional processingMentorship and peer support networksWork-life balance with children and family
Companies
iHeartMedia
Podcast network that produces and distributes the Angie Martinez IRL show
People
Ciara
Guest discussing her career journey, manifestation practices, marriage, and life philosophy
Angie Martinez
Podcast host conducting interview with Ciara about her life, relationships, and career
Russell Wilson
Ciara's spouse; discussed in context of marriage, communication, and romantic partnership
LaLa Anthony
Part of Ciara's close friend circle; mentioned as supportive peer in 40s life phase
Vanessa Simmons
Part of Ciara's close friend circle; mentioned as supportive peer and Spanish speaker
Kelly Rowland
Part of Ciara's close friend circle; praised for fitness discipline and spiritual connection
Teraji P. Henson
Peer Angie consulted about aging anxiety; discussed as supportive friend network
Pastor Judah
Pastoral figure who taught Ciara and Russell the 'will you forgive me' communication practice
Bad Bunny
Referenced as talented artist; Ciara learning his music as part of Spanish language challenge
Quotes
"The beauty of love when it's right for you and you define it, you see it. Like it's like the light bulb goes off because you're clear."
Ciara
"I've always really been very fortunate enough that when I speak life into something and I'm convicted, I have to like, no, like it's one thing to be like, I want to do this. Well, I don't really know. Like I'm not sure about it. I got to like, no, and I can feel it."
Ciara
"Words carry weight. Like what you say has power. So you never say anything negative ever? Not never, but really rarely."
Ciara
"When you enter new chapters, you have to leave the last chapter behind. Now, if there's something that you're supposed to take with you from the last chapter, take it."
Ciara
"I'm so focused on my joy that I'm missing how scary or how uncertain... Everything is good. Like the big fire behind me. I'm like, we're just fine. We're gonna put the fire out."
Ciara
Full Transcript
This is an I Heart podcast. Guaranteed human. But the beauty of love when it's right for you and you define it, you see it. Like it's like the light bulb goes off because you're clear. All the things I said amounted to that. So when I saw my love of my life, when I saw my husband, it's like, I, that, that's it. Do you know? But it's like you, you start to paint the picture of the person without knowing who they're going to be. But when you see them, you know, that's it. That's it. This episode is brought to you by Boost Mobile. All right, let's do it. Cause my girl is here today. A Grammy winning artist, entrepreneur, mother who has sold over 23 million records worldwide. She's given us error defining hits. We could run them all down goodies. One, two step level up will be here all day. But she's also a woman who's continued to build a life that she's designed with intention, discipline and faith. She reminds women everywhere that leveling up is not just a moment. It is a decision. She is amazing. She is Sierra. She is our guest today. Thank you. See, see, see here. Hey, Angie. I'm so happy you're here. Hi, baby. Me too. We finally get to get together. No, we did a short one with the BET Awards. We popped in. You were in a little moment in your life right then too. Oh my gosh. There was a big birthday coming for you. She found it. Like I said, the 40s of the new 20s, I was definitely. You weren't excited about it. I've been having a mental process, but you know what it is for me? The mental process is it's a psychological thing because it's really more so like the number can play tricks on your mind. Cause where I feel internally, like I feel really good. Yeah, you look amazing. Like I feel like, thank you so much. Yeah. I feel like I'm and I keep saying this. So people probably run back some of my older interviews and like, I feel like I'm at my best place, but I do. I feel like life is getting better. It's getting fuller. The wisdom is starting to serve a big role in my life, like when you work smarter, not harder in some cases. And I think the self-awareness of how you take care of yourself, like how you can be strategic to be the best for yourself. Like all these things are happening at one time. And so I feel really good. I do. I feel really good. I love that for you. Yeah, I like it. I like what I am. You should have to tell yourself anything to look at it different. Cause not that you were anti it. You just were having like, it was hard for you. I did. It was really about, you have to embrace it. Yeah. You have to. Cause you know, it sounds dramatic to me when you say 40. It's like, what the heck? It's like, not me. That don't sound right. I sound like we can. Oh, but it's like, no, no, no, you're getting better. Yeah. It's like wine. The way you hit that next decade, which I mean. Oh my gosh. Which is crazy. So that's what I keep saying. Like even when I was talking, I was, um, with Joe and Jada and, um, Joe, I couldn't believe he was 55. I was like, wow. That's what I'm saying. So when you say them like, oh my gosh, like, we're going to be all right. Like, you know, I will say, and I've been having this great curiosity. So I, I'll talk to people and I'll be like, you know, if you don't mind me asking how old are you? Like it's been a thing I keep doing. And I remember running into one of the moms at, um, our kids' school, my kids' school, and I asked her, I said, she was talking about like life and pyraminopause and all that stuff. And I said, if you don't mind me asking, how old are you? And she's like, I'm 45. I was like, wow. She look good. Yeah. I was like, I'll be all right. She was like, girl. She's like the 40s of the new twenties, but with money. And I was like, oh, I like that. That's Bob. But when she said that, like her confidence and like how she felt when she was speaking to me as a woman, you needed an image of what 40s looks like. I'm like, okay. You wanted to be inspired by the image. It's a psychological thing. It's totally psychological because that thing, you know, they say aging, nothing, but a number. Like, you know, the way we live, it, it, it marks where we are in our lives. You can be young as ever and live like an old lady. You can be older and live young. You know, so it's all like within you. So that's like my whole like kind of way I look at it. You live young, right? I live young. I think my kids also keep me young too. Um, but you know, a mama gotta stay tapped in. So, and, and I think it's more so like tapped in. There's different levels of tapped in for me. It's tapped in for my babies. I want to be like aware of what's happening in their world. I have to go back into my, you know, think, think to be like, what was life like when I was their age? Cause they go through these different things. You're like, I want to be like, I want them to feel comfortable with me, but I also want to make sure I'm like thinking about what I could have done better to serve them better. You know, you have that part. And then there's just also being tapped in as an artist too. Like, you know, that's the beautiful thing about music. To me, you know, music, music is ageless, you know, in a sense. And the gift of being able to dance and, you know, what I do as an artist, I feel like allows me to live young, whether it's, you know, creating dances that start to become trends or like staying tapped in with the dances that are trending, you know, like I'll be on my TikTok game. You're strong. We all are. That, you know, not you than who you like. You were like made for TikTok. You're so sweet. No, I'm just saying all these dance challenges and stuff. Like if not you, then who to do that. You're so sweet. No, but it's, I do, I do like to live young. And then, and then obviously my husband's younger than me too. So I got to keep it. Yeah. That's right. What is the age difference? Three years. Oh, that's nothing. Yeah. Is there a difference? Do you feel like there's an age? He's an old soul. Yeah. To be honest with you, he might be a little more older than me. Sometimes I feel like his fullness as a man and that feels good. You ever notice how everything keeps going up? I mean, rent is going up, streaming services are going up, even like your favorite burrito place all of a sudden wants to charge you for salsa. You go to the supermarket, they want to charge you extra for the bag. It's kind of crazy out here. The good thing is with Boost Mobile, you and your phone bill do not have to play that game. You don't have to play the, will this go up soon game? Why? Because Boost Mobile has an unlimited talk, text and data plan at a price that will never go up. In fact, it's the same price you'll pay for life. So switching out to unlimited wireless at a price that will never go up. Only at Boost Mobile. After 30 gigabytes, customers may experience slower speeds. Customers will pay $25 a month as long as they remain active on the Boost Mobile unlimited plan. All right. So as in the intro, we were running down some of your eras, right? And you're in this new era now, actually, in many ways in business and this, the age number and all of that and your family and stuff. But like, let's just go through a couple of the eras. Okay. I'm curious, cause this is in real life. And I just wonder in these eras, like if we go back to the beginning, like the goodies era, like from the outside, it's like to find the era. Well, what, what were you in? What was happening in your real life at that time? My real life, the goodies era, the world was moving really fast. Um, you know, because I was 18, 19, you know, I remember being on camera a year before everything took off. The heirs to send cameras to go to my graduation. Um, and my prom and all that stuff. And they said, they asked me in an interview, where do you see yourself a year from now? And my super Atlanta, you know, Southern, but I see myself having the most time on a billboard check, you know, um, and literally a year later, goodies was number one, you know, for, for quite some time. And that was a blessing. But in that era, I was a big baby, you know, I, I was, I've always been an old soul. Um, so I knew for a fact I was doing exactly what God called me to do, you know, in reference to my career, especially at that time. Um, yeah. Oh, I knew it. I knew it even when I like, before I started really pursuing my career. Like I had confirmation spiritually before I decided to pursue it. What does that mean? What does that look like? So, you know, I was probably 13 ish going on 14 in that timeframe. And we were talking about, we were at me and my friends at a lunch table and we were talking about like life post high school. And you got to start thinking about registering for colleges and what you're going to do and what you're going to pursue. Yeah. And I was like, I, I was like, I think I'm going to, I know I want to be a singer. Like I want to be an entertainer. And I was very clear at that table and literally, um, I went home, like I had missed school one day, went home and I made my own goal sheet and I wrote down like what my goals are going to be. And I was like, I'm going, my first goal was to get discovered. And then once I got discovered, how did you even know to do that? It was just like, I got to put a plan together. I'm like, what's the plan? Yeah. I'm only child too. So I think, I think when you're an only child, you have like so much time with yourself is just thinking, dreaming, like visualize and just like, let me get this vision board up. Yeah. So this like, I went home, I wrote down my goal sheet. First goal was to get discovered and I wrote how I was going to do it. I'm going to put myself in talent shows. Like if I want to get discovered, I got to be seen. Okay. So that's like, okay, I do that. And the second goal was once I got discovered, I wanted to sell three to four million albums and then, um, my, my third goal was to have longevity. So it wasn't the longest goal sheet, but in my mind, I needed to have a game plan to get there and no lie. Two weeks after I wrote this down, my friend, that was at the lunch table with me, he came up to me to my locker rooms. Like, Hey, there's this group looking for a third member. Like, do you want to audition for this? Did you feel that? Like, Oh man, I'm man of, did you even know that I'm manifesting at 13? Let me tell you though, this is how my life works. Okay. I can see something for myself. And normally when I feel it, like it's a feeling you have, like it's a spiritual thing. It's like, it's a thing that's like conviction. Like this is what I'm going to do. Like I had that feeling. So when I'm saying that this is what I want to do, like it's not just me pulling from the air. It's like, I really believe in manifestation. Like, you know, you're like the poster girl. How did you even know about manifestation at 13? Like to even do that? Is that something you were taught or just? No, it was in me. I'm not going to lie. Like it was in me. You know, my dad, my mom and my dad were both in the military and my dad was in the army and my mother was in the Air Force. I'm definitely a daddy's girl. And I always watched my dad. He was like the perfect, I think, walking real life model of like when you do all the things you're supposed to do and you do them with like high level efforts and like discipline and like, if you do that, like you're going to, you're going to get somewhere. Like you're going to go somewhere. You're going to get great results back. But yeah, 18, 19, the world was moving so fast in that era. I mean, literally every song back to back was number one or top two or sorry, top three or top 10. And that was like a lot happening, you know, but, but honestly, I think I didn't even know how to like live fully and all of that. Did you know, I will take you back for a second. Did you know in those times, like what you were doing? Like were you calling it manifest state manifestation? No, I was just doing it. Yeah. I was just believe. I just believed. I believe like confidence. Yeah. It was conviction. I just, you know what it is? I feel like I've always had a gift and an ability to will whatever I wanted into my life, good and bad. So good. Okay. Right. And that's a real thing. Right. You can like, why would you ever will something bad because you don't know it's bad or you're like, I want that. Yeah. I want that. Yeah. But no, that's not good. Yeah. So that again, the wisdom now we know, right? Yeah. Okay. But that's kind of that thing. But I've always really been very fortunate enough that when I speak life into something and I'm convicted, I have to like, no, like it's one thing to be like, I want to do this. Well, I don't really know. Like I'm not sure about it. I got to like, no, and I can feel it. Like when I said I wanted to be a singer and I was a little, it was one day I was at home and I was watching the live television performance. And I was like, I got goosebumps all over my body. Wow. And I was like, that's what I'm going to do. So I knew it. I wonder how people can tap into that. Like when you think about everybody in their everyday life, they might not be aspiring to be a singer and have be have this legendary career, but like we all have dreams, goals. Yeah. The thing that pulls us to something. I just wonder how, how would you describe tapping into that? For people like for someone who maybe just hasn't had that experience. You know, I think it's a combination of things. I think it's like, think about sometimes you just have to pause, like, you know, like just be still, like to really feel like, what do I think I can be the best at that serves me best? Like, you know, how does it make me feel? Do I get excited about it? You know, you got to be excited about your dreams. Like you got to be that passion is what gives you what you need when you really don't want to do it. You know, but it's like, how does it make me feel? You know, I think you have to, it's like a, when you start to process that way, you start to fill it through your veins because like that's that thing that makes you feel like I'm about to go do it. You know, so you got to have like those things like, can I do it? Check. Okay. First of all, what do I want to do? Okay. Can I do it? Check. How does it make me feel like, you know, and then once you start feeling that energy and that juice just flow through you, it's like, that's it. Like I don't, I don't know one person that is successful that whatever they chose to do in life, they, they had, they didn't have a passion connected to it. You know what I mean? Like it's like, you got to have that passion. Like does it make you feel like driven to go and be great at it? Does it make you feel driven to learn about it? Does it make you feel driven to like, you know, to just like figure it out? Like that is different. Have you ever lost that feeling in all these years? No. But my role is, is that if I lose it, then I won't do it. That's my role. I always hear conversations about you. Lala always shares like if when she's like, you'll check her, like, don't speak that, you'll check your friends about being positive and all that. And I just wonder what the pep talk to yourself is like in those moments when you're questioning yourself, when you're, you know, when you're in the down moments and when it's not sweet, like, what is that talk? Do you do that for yourself? I definitely have to hype my, hype me up. I got to hype myself up for real sometimes because you've got, oh my gosh, like life is life and, um, but yeah, I mean, I'm so literal speaking in life that it's like the, the rule and, and, and every now and then I have to catch myself. But you cannot speak negative things. Like that's just not an option. Yeah. So because of that, it pushes me to speak positive things because I know that words carry weight. Like what you say has power. So you never say anything negative ever? Not never, but really rarely. Really? It's not even like an option. What does that mean? Like not like if something's bad, like a show's bad, a movie's bad, or this is like, I don't like that, or that person in real life. What do you mean? Never say anything negative. How deep does this go? Like, oh, like you mean like about things in the world? Yeah, I don't know. Like if I don't like something, I'll say if I don't like something. Yeah. Like if something is like, not hot, like that's not hot, but I mean, like to myself, yeah, no, no, no, that's what I'm saying. Like when it's like, you ain't got this or like, why do you think the word I can't? Like I don't like that. Like you don't do I can't. I'm not. I don't like that. You know, like that's for my own like prep talk. Like you have to like, because if you say you can't then you won't. Okay. What about when you're beat up or tired? Do you say that? I'm tired. I say I'm tired. You're tired. Yeah, I say I'm tired. But you're like, oh, well we ain't. I'm too tired to do. No, no, no, no, no, no. It's not even an option. Like, no, no, no, no, no, not for me. I mean, and again, sometimes, you know, you're supposed to take a different turn. So you have to also be realistic with that too. Right. It's like, okay, I tried all these things and this didn't work. Okay. Maybe it's meant for me to try something else. But I think quitting, quitting to me is failing. That's not failing when it doesn't work. You were raised such by a military dad. I think that has a lot to do with it because it's one thing to have passion, but if you have passion and no discipline. Yeah, you gotta have it. It doesn't always land the same. You gotta have a discipline. You have to, right? It's like, you know, I say in life, like, what's your compass? Like, you have to have a compass. Like, you can't get to where you want to get to in life without some kind of like compass. So that for me goes back to like the goal sheet or like, even now I have to write things down. Yeah. Yeah, what's your goal sheet? You know, I write, you know, it's so funny. I need to update this one. But I did, I do have a new plan. Hold on, I'm gonna get my phone that I started. You have your phone? Okay, good. Let's get it. So it's my, because I'm in the 40 club, the 40 club. Okay. So my 40 day challenge for entering this club, I wrote down, hold on. So I've done this one thing before. And I know they're on the Bible lap. It allows you to do it. So I had to read the Old Testament in 40 days. The app does that 40 days. Okay. Then I said I want to do no carbs at night. I get to give myself one night to do it. Okay. For 40 days. For 40 days. Okay. Then I'm going to train three times a week and that can be like Peloton or with a trainer when I got to be active. Okay. I need to sweat. Um, I got to take my vitamins daily. And then I wanted to do my Spanish lessons four times a week. For 40 days. For 40 days. Are you doing that? I'm about to kick it all in. Oh, you're about to start. Yeah. So I'm about to start it. So are you getting ready to watch Bad Bunny and Super Bowl? Is that what's bad? Come on. Bad Bunny is bad. Bad Bunny is, uh, is, uh, my friend. Oh, I'm just playing. I don't know bad money like that. It's, it's me. Me go. Huh. Yeah. That bunny is, is me and me go. See, I'm just joking. I don't know bad. But I have met him before and he's so talented and I do love that bunny. I think he's so dope. So in 40 days, your Spanish is going to be so much better. Yo, do I buy? Yo, let's go. Mama knows, mama knows, mama knows. I want to be lit. No, but honestly, I've already been doing Spanish, but my whole thing is that I really want to like stay on the track of like getting, being fluent. Like I'm like, I've come so far. I want to steal like half your list. What else is on the list? I want to do Spanish. I want to go to the gym. Yes, the gym. I'm going to stop carbs. Yeah. I might just steal. I might steal your list. What else should I? I don't know. What else? That was my base thing. I was like, you know what I did want to do though? Because I love the, I love like, you know, music as well. Yeah. And the, I'm bumbo lay, I'm bumbo lay. Like I love that song. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. So I'm like, I want to learn that song in 40 days too. You want to learn the song? Yeah. Like to perform it? Like just to sing it. Yeah. Yeah. Love that. Yeah. Yeah. I kind of have the hook in my head already. And it's funny because my baby girl, La Morda, which means love in Spanish and Italian. Speaking of my Spanish, she go, bumbo lay, yo. She says it back because I'm like singing it in the kitchen with her. Because you're practicing. Yeah. It's so good. I don't know. I'm obsessed with the Latino culture. I've always said I'm Mexican. I'm black and Mexican. That's what I am in my head. But I do feel like it's, it's, it's a good challenge for me. Your Spanish is flowing before mine is flowing. I'm going to be so pissed off. That'd be crazy. No, I would be nuts. I have to get focused immediately. Seriously. Cause wait, what the heck? You're not, you're not fluent in Spanish? No, never been. Really? Because I grew up here and my, my mother's second generation. I'm third generation. Oh my gosh. She was born in New York, raised in New York. My mother spent, my mother's fluent, but she has to work on it to be fluent. Oh yeah. Cause she's just rolling with English. It's English. Yeah. And so, yeah. No, we got to do this. Vamanos. Come on. Let's go. I can't have you. Work and no. I can't have you blow past me. Come on. Let's go. This would be terrible. That would be the sound of it. I might just. No, stop. No, no. I'm going to mess with you too. Like when I get it down really good, cause like my girls like La, La and V, it's funny cause they both speak Spanish. I always forget that La is fluent. Oh yeah. But, but, but, no, no, no, no. I don't want to, I don't want to put them on blasts, but, uh, you know, La and, and, and Vanessa, we literally were, um, I asked them both. I was like, how do you say like something with the airport in Spanish? And those girls took like, they took forever to like go back and forth because there's different ways that you say it. Yeah. Do not roast me girls. Well, I'm just saying though, like, it was funny. You would catch up. You say, oh, I can totally catch up. You see the weakness. You could squeeze in there. And listen, I'm just saying, I'm going to join the club. Okay. We're going to be able to be having our little conversations in Spanish. And I cannot wait for that. Like, and they will tell you, I will like ask questions. Like, how do I say this? How do I say this? And they give it back to me. I love this for me too. Cause I'm going to steal the whole 40 day list. Let's go. Yeah. I'm into it. Right. Yeah. I can use that right now. I think my greatest thing is, is like, you know, when you reach such significant milestones in your life, like, what does it mean? Like, again, I have to ask myself like, where are we going? Do you have those type of conversations with your girlfriends? Yeah. Like, is this like a thing that? Oh yeah. I had a whole conversation and all of my girls made me feel good. When I turned 50, yeah, I remember sitting in a parking lot going into a restaurant and I don't know. It was like, all of a sudden it was, it was like, freak me out. Like I just, I was fine. I didn't care. And then all of a sudden it was like a wave of it. Like it was freaking me out. And I called Teraji because she had just did this thing about, I don't know. We had a whole, and she was like, yeah, girl. We had, I remember sitting in the parking lot of a restaurant ready to go meet some other friends who were younger because they're like thirties and forties. And I was like, I can't talk to them about this. I called Teraji. But we had a quick little chat about it. And then I went into the restaurant. But sometimes just having the safe space or women that you can kind of communicate those like vulnerability, you know, because we don't want to feel that way or necessarily even project that. We want to be confident and okay. And so, you know, we do have moments. And I think those are the moments with friendships that. Oh, it's huge. My friends have been so tremendous for me on this journey, especially entering this era because within my super close knit, you know, group, I was the last one, you know? Yeah. So, and they're all killing it. That's what I'm saying. I look at it and I'm like, you don't really be good. Because I feel like everyone keeps getting better. And who's the squad? LaLa, Vanessa, Kelly. Kelly. And then. Kelly looks better than ever. Oh my gosh, the body is body. Everybody is that. I'm telling you, like when I look at them, I'm like, oh my gosh. Like I tell her, like she inspires me so much. Yeah. Like, and she's like, if you meet Kels, you know, she's like the ultimate like girl. Like she's on top of everything we're taking care of herself. Like she's the one that if she's doing a diet plan, she's sticking to it. Yeah. I'm like, you're right. Like, yeah, we gotta stay, let's stay the course. Like she's that one that I can call to you also spiritually. Yeah. She's really like tapped in like so we can pray together in a really special way. And like, you know, she's that girl and she's also just ultimate. All my girls, ultimate mama is like, you know, and then my best friend also, she's my major in honor and my makeup artist since I was 16 years old. I met her at my first professional shoot. We're now 25 plus years deep. She is 61, 62. Am I saying everything? I always do the age guessing game. I'll show you what she looks like at the end of this, but she hates when I call her out. But I have to because like when I tell you the box of wisdom, I know God put her in my world. To go to hold my hand at times when I need it along the way, because it was just me. Like my parents were my managers. I don't have the biggest like family in my intermediate circle. And I know God gave me her as a big sister. But, you know, it's like, you know, that's my core, core, core as far as like, you know, every day on the phone with it. You know, and then I also like my girls are like my little sisters like Tiana and Normani and, you know, Coco, like, you know, so there's like different mediums, you know, but it's sweet, you know. I feel really blessed to have like the circle of girls. I was going to say Serena too. She's also another really great friend of mine too. But all the girls that I'm surrounded by are fearless, you know, they're like no nonsense. Have you had to like, because this is the thing that comes up sometimes. I've had this conversation with some of my girlfriends. It's like, have you had to like limit or ever cut a friendship or how do you manage that? How do you manage that? You know, I really believe in the idea of, you know, who you surround yourself with is really important. Yeah. Like what do they say to you when you're going through things? Like what do they say to you when you're vulnerable? You know, are they a negative person? Like I can't do negative energy and also do their, does their, the way they see life overall, you don't have to do everything the same, but does it align with how you see life? Right? Like are they ambitious like you are? Like, you know, are they one that likes to party all the time? Like that maybe not, may not be your speed. Like, you know, it's like, I think that like Russ and I talk about being equally yoked in our marriage, but in your friendships, I think that's important to have some kind of like a lot of a lot more equals or things that are more alike than like completely opposite. But, but yeah, because that can go both ways. Like there's a beauty of like having different personalities and like everyone having their own thing. There's a beauty to that, but more so like the moral compass, like how do you guys align? Yeah. You know, and, and I'll be honest with you from experience. I'm a big believer that if someone is bringing negativity into your space, like remove it immediately. Like I have no hesitation. I get excited to drop dead weight. No, I do. I love that for you. It's in the Senate hurts when you're disappointed by someone that you thought was your friend, but there's nothing better than when you know who they are. I prefer that kind of enemy. And how do you know who you are? What is it? How do you drop dead weight? Is it just cold? Like off? Well, it depends on the situation. What do you confront in my cases? I've had to like in most cases, I've had to like say, like this, this, and this happen. And it's not cool. And I'm not OK with it. Like, you know, so yeah. But to be honest, dropping dead weight. Yeah, you know, because sometimes you also have friends by way of business. Yeah. So when it comes to business, I think I can be honestly a little more cold. Because I can't. Yeah. Yeah. You know, but only when I get to that point, because I only know to love big, you know. That's why I want this. Sometimes when you love big and you're that, you know, you're a good soul, you're a good spirit, you like, you know, and so sometimes people want a piece of that. And I think as women, it's important to kind of like, what are our boundaries? How much do I have to give? Yeah. What am I willing to give? Yeah. Does this person in my life warrant that anymore? Do I or now you have children, you have a husband, your energy and your time goes into your career. And, you know, it's like, how do you manage the balance of that? Of where you put all your time? And yeah. Well, that's why I don't like I'm like quality versus quantity. I try not to overfill my cup with too much because it is impossible to be every to be with everyone and to be at the same level with everything. Yeah. So that's why I'm like, like my friend circle that I mentioned to you with a lot of the girls that are in my life, like it's been a long time, you know, so I haven't had anything dramatic like that where I've had to say, you know, I've had in the workspace I've had, you know, but, but, you know, where I've had to kind of say, hey, this is not the right energy, but that's why I like consistency. You know, I'm such a creature of habit, you know, and, and because I'm only child, all my friends are like my sisters. They're the aunties to my kids, you know, they're family to me, you know. So what's great about all of us too is that it all works. Like we, everyone is doing their own thing and they have their own hands full. So we all understand it for each other. And when it's time for us to have fun, we have the best fun. When it's time for us to laugh, we laugh sometimes. I'll be on the phone with my girls for just five minutes and that filled my cup, you know, don't have to be like the longest conversations. Like, so I think that's where it works out because we're all we all get it. Yeah. You know, I think it's important to have the circle that gets it, right. And then if I need to cry on someone's shoulder or if I need to vent, they're going to give me that time, right. You know, and vice versa. So that's the blessing, I think, with how it all works out, you know, you chose well, choosing well. You got to choose. You got to choose well. Don't leave that part out. You have to. It's no good. It's the truth. It is no good. It ain't no good. No bueno. What's ever, whatever is. Come on now. Come on now, Espa. You know what? All right. So what error is this now? How do you define this error that you're in now? Oh, this error right now. I don't know. We're walking into it, but I'm going to speak life into it. It's going to be my best error. Talk that shit. 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You have become like a poster child in a way for like, and we've talked about this before, how you've made some changes in your life to be in this relationship and this marriage that you're in now. Do you ever feel, I just wonder from the inside, if the energy, it's one thing to have success and you're so happy and everybody's happy for you and you share that, but now everybody wants to know, how did you do it? What was the prayer? What did you say? And that's cool too, but I just wonder for you from the inside, does it ever feel like almost not a burden, but a pressure to live up to the expectation of being this couple that's did it, made it? Well, that's a good question. I try to think about that too much. Because I think the most important thing is to remember to live. So I say that by saying, first of all, I think it's really sweet, more than anything, or girls will say to me, it's the funniest thing when they say, tell me the prayer. And I'm like, wait, what? I think it's sweet though. As I said, that's a yo, I'm like, this is kind of funny and it's kind of like, I don't know, where is the word? It's like, wait, this is interesting. No, it's heavy. It's like a thing. Yeah, it's powerful. It's powerful. You know, so I think maybe more so focusing on the power and the opportunity to, you know, share whatever little bit that I'm learning with someone to help them. Like that's always what I love doing. Like I was in Nigeria just recently at, and it was a table. It was so funny because it was all girls at the table and it was supposed to be like them celebrating my birthday and all this stuff. And they, I mean, they, when I tell you Nigeria did it so big for me, like the love. Mm-hmm. That they show me like was insane. And, you know, it's supposed to be not about like music and like my birthday and all this stuff. And then like it's a whole table of women and one girl asked me some question about like love or whatever. And I'm like, oh, we're going to have fun. Like because you got to chat about all kinds of like things around love. And I love asking questions too. Because I'm still learning, you know, I don't have it all figured out. People think you haven't figured out. That's very sweet guys, but I don't. But, you know, I'm still learning along the way too. And I love when you can have healthy conversations about life and love. And I love also talking to people that they don't have to necessarily be older than me, but they've had the experience, the wisdom and experience too. You know, I love when I can have those conversations because they're healthy, you know, but, but I feel like sometimes I hear girls, you know, talking to me and ask me questions because they're curious just like I was. You know, and they're trying to figure out life just like I was. And again, I don't have it all figured out. But, you know, I like the first big steps I've been blessed to have taken. And, you know, where I am in my life right now, I'm not going to lie. Like I feel really good, you know, I feel really, I can be honest, you know, I'm not going to downplay it. You know, I think God that I can wake up every day and not have to think about this part of my life. But only because that's what I desired. Right. And I think that's important that it has to be what you desire. You don't want to just do something just because. Right. I get that. I wonder, because I think if you ask any woman, do you desire to be in a healthy, happy marriage with somebody who's equally yoked and we have the same values? I think most people say, yes, that is what I desire. But I think sometimes trauma past experiences, bad habits. Yeah. Sometimes maybe kick in for women. Yeah. 100%. You know what I'm saying? Any person. Yeah. So I was wondering if there, which one of, which of that you've had to change or learn about yourself to be. Oh yeah. Well, again, it goes back to the base of like speaking life. And I'm a big believer that when you enter new chapters, you have to leave the last chapter behind. Now, if there's something that you're supposed to take with you from the last chapter, take it. It's most likely going to serve you well to know what you don't want to do. And what you even more so what you like to. So there's that, that's that wisdom. Like that's why I love, I love that word. Don't take the same shit. Don't do the same thing. No, you can't because it's not fair to yourself. And it's not fair to your love that you're trying to give an opportunity to blossom and become. You will get in the way of yourself if you don't let go of the past. Able to do that out of the gate. 100%. Because we, okay, but here's a deal. Okay. So everyone is, everyone's process is different. Yeah. But there was a process where it was just me. Like the just me season is a good season. Oh, I see. Do you see what I mean? You didn't go from bad situation to like this and then. No, so you, you did this growing in between. The season I thought was going to be longer than it was. I thought it's going to be single for like four years. I did. And it was a little less than that. We were, you know, about 10 months. And then I also had a child. Right. So that's a real thing. So the me season was necessary because I'm like, okay, I can't play with this. Like, you know, the experimenting phase, we out the dough, we not doing that. See, see what we doing. You know, so, but the, the Jess, I think the just me phase is important because you have to have time to sit with yourself. Like you have to have time just like evaluate like yourself, like as a whole, like not just with relationships, but like, where am I as a woman? Like I think for us, even like in my marriage, I have to still like evaluate myself like, wait, I gotta make sure I'm keeping it cute. I gotta make sure I'm keeping it sexy. Like I gotta push myself. Like, you know, like I had to talk to myself like, where am I? Like we have to have those moments where we just do self checks and embrace the just me phase. The just me phase is just fine. Like I think that's so important. Like what did you learn in that just me phase? The just me, I think in the just me phase, I learned even more what I'm capable of. Like I learned even more, I'm going to be okay. Like you're going to cry, you're going to hurt, you're going to feel all those things. Like that's a part of it. And the faster you can cry, the faster, the better you'll, the quicker you'll, the quicker you'll feel better. Mm hmm. Like let yourself go through it. Like let yourself be vulnerable. Let yourself hurt because you will know you don't want that feeling again. Like, you know, you eventually understand how to like to not make it happen again. Right. Because when you're younger, we, you know, we, you know, we, you know, you're like, oh, why Jesus? I say the why cry. You know why? You go through all that. I've had a few, a few why cries. Okay. My eyes. Did you ever get that answer? Yeah, I got the answer. Like, it's like why? Well, do you want to go to the why? Yeah. What depends on the circumstance, right? Okay. So if you, what do they say? Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results is a form of insanity. Yeah. Okay. At some point, you can't also point the finger. You have to also look at yourself. Yeah, that's what I was trying. I'm going to try and get you to talk bad about nobody else. I'm saying for you, what did you have to learn? What was the why for you? And then you got to make sure like sometimes, you know, you're, you're looking for love. I was thinking about the song, looking for love and all the wrong ways. That song, you know, sometimes you're looking for love, but where are you looking? And does the love align with what you are or what you want? What doesn't mean the love is so, so, okay. A bad love experience or a bad love from my perspective with someone that wasn't right for me doesn't mean they're bad love. That it just didn't work. Like it doesn't, that's not the love for me. Yes. Right. So I think there's like this thing where sometimes we say we want love, but like we have to define it. What does that love mean for us? Like, you know, what kind of love do you want? Like, how does it make you feel like how, how do you and that love like mesh? Like, you know, is it like we say being equally yoke? Like there's these things you don't think about. Sometimes we just kind of, I think are lofty with our love goals or like our love desires. Like it's like, but wait, okay, the surface level, that's cute, but what's underneath that? Like that part matters, right? Did you identify that going into this? Oh yeah. Yeah. 100%. But it was also like you had like your non-negotiables. So like you had the things where you're like, okay, I know for a fact, I want to feel these key things. Like I know for a fact, it was almost, it's so crazy because I could like cry. But the beauty of love, when it's right for you and you define it, you see it. Like it's like the light bulb goes off because you're clear. Do you know what I mean? Like, so I visualized, you know, now I didn't, I didn't know like exactly what the face was, but all the things I said amounted to that. So when I saw my love of my life, when I saw my husband, it's like, I see the light bulb. That's it. Do you know? But it's like you, you start to paint the picture of the person without knowing who they're going to be, but when you see them, you know that's him. That's it. Yeah. So yeah. And that's powerful because that's, that's a, it's a spiritual thing for me, you know. Before you met him though, what were that, what was that thing? What was on that board? Like, because like when you tell me this story, I think in a view at 13, making that board about what you wanted in your career and then having that confidence. And like you said, that conviction. The conviction that knowing it's like, when you're describing this moment, it feels the same way. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? It's like 100%. But I'm wondering, so what was on the board before you saw him so that you could even see it in him? So you could have missed it in him, right? If you weren't even clear about it. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. So that's why it goes back to like, we visualize for love, like I think for any of us, like you gotta like have key, you know, elements that are like, you see them, like you can feel them, you see them, you want them, you desire them, they're right for you. That's important too. Yeah, well what were your? So my thing was a few things I said, he was going to be God fearing. That was important. That's like number one. It's going to be God fearing. I said he's going to love kids because I was, I had my first baby, my precious first boy. And then I said that he was going to be worldly and this may not be the right way, but not of the world. But you know, like when we travel together, you know, we're going to like really experience together, experience it together, like we're going to experience the sexy of it. Like we're going to like really be in it together. Like, you know, we can go to any, you know, place in the world high or low and like there's a feeling that comes with it, right? You know, it's like, and we can like figure it out, right? But there was like, there was things like that. I want to say everything. No, you don't have to. Those are a few things, you know? Yeah. And it's fun because when I think about it. Were you this detailed? Like did you? Yeah. So you manifested and envisioned this for your 100%. Wow. Yeah. I didn't write anything on a board. Had you ever tried to do that in a relationship before? This was the define, this was different. So again, I always knew I wanted love, but I wasn't like defining it. Do you know what I'm saying? I do. That's a very big difference. You know, it's like, and then sometimes like you're in different eras and seasons of your life. So what you're, when you're with someone, like that's what you're seeing in that moment. Yeah. Right. But when you start thinking about like, we can't play with our lives. Like I'm just going to get to it. Like, biological, the biological. Clock for women is a real thing and for men too. But I'm going to speak for us. Like we can't go backwards. So don't, I'm not like somebody waste my time. Like that's a rule. Like, and once I started to understand the value of like how the clock, you know, does not wiggle. It's like, wait a minute, like what are we doing? Like I'm not letting someone waste my time on my dying. I'm letting you waste my time. Like that's not an option. But you have to get to a certain place to feel that because you understand the significance of like when I look back, I can't get it back. And I, you're not going to keep robbing me of my years. Don't be love bombing me. Like that. I understand what that meant, but it's like, that's not right. It's not right. This guy said, grows up for like big failures. And so you're not clear to your point. And you don't have your vision and you're not clear. It's very easy to be distracted by something else that's taken up your time. Yes. Your emotions, all that stuff. And you let people waste your time. Yeah. Like, oh, my time is precious. Because I know how I love. Like I know when I love, I sincerely love. And I don't pour into something if I don't want to. So I chose to do this. Now I'm not being forced to do this. Like I chose like, so am I choosing to give my time to? Like what am I choosing to pour my love into? Like what am I choosing? Like it's a choice. Like and I am in control of that. What about when you're in the marriage? So you find this love and you guys have built this union. What about when you're in it? Do you still have to make those kind of lists? Do you still have to recheck in to make sure your boxes are being filled? Check? No, I'm not. Yeah, you do because, you know, thank God we're now almost on 10 years. Wow. Wow. Marriage. Wow. Excited. And look at you. 10 years together. You're still so giddy. Yeah, I did. You're still so cute and giddy about it. I love that for you. You know, I was saying to someone like, I think what's important is that you have to continually search for the beginning, especially when you spend every day of your life with someone for such a long time. Don't let the butterflies fly away. You know, the butterflies you have when you first meet each other is like, you're like little kids like in high school, you know, that I still get that feeling. You do? Yeah. But you know, Russ and I, we will chat. Like, you know, he, I'll be honest, his romance like efforts in game is like, is next level. Really? So it makes me like, I gotta show up. Like, hold up, because he'd be pulling up like, yeah. There's like, I just cannot like, I feel like, you know, I was saying to someone, I was like, you know, passion is everything. When a person loves you with their, like when they're passionate, like that's different. Because even if like, something's not perfect, the passion is like, that's an effort. Like he's choosing to like, love me, like the way that he, you know, is a man, you know, like he's choosing to do that. So like, that's just different. Like because of that, I'm like, I gotta show up for my man, like, you know, but, but the thing is, I will say, I was trying to think about like, you know, what's some of the distinctive things that really stand out, you know, or that like, how help me to this, because it's hard to put it in words, you know, but help me to describe what love, what I know is true love feels like. But I think it's simple. Like when someone, when you know someone's thinking of you, like, I know that he's, he's being thoughtful. So like, he just threw me my surprise, you know, birthday party. And it was so cute because he goes, so we go out to the party and this is so simple. I'm not, I'm getting too. Okay. Yeah. Because so this is so minor, but one, I was not expecting it. I was gonna like a little nice dinner with a couple of like, you know, our friends or whatever. But he goes to me, he says, you know, we get to, I see everyone's faces. I'm surprised and like, oh my gosh, this is so sweet. Like I was not expecting everyone to be there. And he said, babe, I just want you to know, you know, Tiana and Kim and, you know, this way, he said, basically said that he made a note to say like, Nessa, like, all your friends want to be here with, they couldn't be here. But he made it a point to be like, this, this person, this person, just so you know. So when you're looking in this room, so you know, like they want to be here. But it was like, how are you even thinking to say that to me? Like, you know, like, Because he knows you. Yeah. You know, so it's like, and it's his heart. Like he, I cannot move in this world without knowing. Like he's not that he, I always know he's thinking of me. He's thinking of us, like our unit, our family. Like, I really wish I could put it into words, but it feels good to be thought of. Right. Like he doesn't do anything without including me. Right. It's, it's really deep. Like that's to me, like that's what love should feel like. You know, it's like, does he include, he includes me, you know, and, and that's a great feeling. You know, or he's really big on date nights. He'd be, you know, he'd get me in place. Like I gotta stay on telling my stuff. Because he's like, babe, you know, I love when you get dressed up a little bit. Right. No taken on it. Say less. Like, but because he will show up. Like, you know, so we talk about, you know, the ways to show up. Yeah, you know, and like, and that allows you to grow, you know, like, so we've had different phases where we're like doing a little like us check, you know, and like the things that we're doing or the things that we have been doing as much of, you know, something that I do love, we learn from one of our, from our pastors in our lives, Pastor Judah, is we talked about this, will you forgive me thing? So this is really hard to do. Yeah. But sometimes you, you know, if you know, you, not sometimes, but the rule is like, if you were the person to cause the riff raff or the rift in a moment, you have to be able to ask, will you forgive me? And that is really like, I'm stubborn. So it's like, that's hard. Yeah, it's important though. It's hard, but it's, it is important, right? And so you got to be the bigger person. So are you making up scenarios or you just, what is that? How does that go? No. So like, let me see, like if we had a disagreement, but one of us caused the turn up, whoever calls a turn up has to be like, well, you forgive me. You, you made the other person upset. Like you, you did that. Okay. Now we got to own it and you got to say, well, you forgive me. So like, and there's also things of like not going to bed mad. It says in the Bible, right? So we, we have really, we haven't had a night, let's just say this. We haven't had a moment where we've, we, even if we went to bed mad at some point by 3am, we backed it. So you cannot, you can't, not just like not saying, not saying 3am like this, but just saying at some point you address the issue. Okay, Angie. Okay. You know, after you do that chat and you might, well, anyways, no, what I'm just saying though, you know, but you can't go to bed mad. Like that's important too. So there's these little things that I think are so significant and then communication, like it's everything, you know, it's, he's my best friend in life. So, you know, you got to be able to communicate even about the hardest things and most uncomfortable things. Like I feel blessed that we can do that. So beautiful. It made me a little teary today. Come on, see this episode is brought to you by Walden University. You guys think you're too busy to earn the degree that you have always wanted. You are not too busy. It's never too late at Walden University. You can get the W. 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That's probably like a bit of my like, when you talk about things you talked about earlier, it's like being delusional. Sometimes I'm a little delulu. About joy? No, meaning like I'm so focused on my joy that I'm missing how scary or how, you know, uncertain or how. The lows like. Yeah, like I'm missing them sometimes because I'm so focused on the joy. Everything is good. Like the big fire behind me. I'm like, we're just fine. We're gonna put the fire out. Like that's kind of like my mentality. We got fire hoses. We got. We'll get to that. Yeah. You don't sit in the kind of negative down stuff. No. You find joy to pull you out. Joy. Yeah. That's all about my joy. And I do think that holistically, like your joy will impact you significantly. So like I'm always like, how fast can I get the joy if I need to? That was a word for me today. I'll take that. I can use a little more joy this week. Let's go. I'm gonna go find some. Mama knows. No, I needed that. That was good. All right, do one more. We have one more time for one more. Oh, okay. I love this. You're so good at that. This bowl is like made for you. You're like. I let his ball girl. Okay. Is there a moment that made you believe in divine timing? Of course. Your whole life. Yeah. The beginning of my career, for sure. How it all started. You know, giving birth to my first barn was significant. You know, and all my babies. But obviously you mean the love of my life. Do you smother your child? Are you a helicopter mom? Partial. Yeah. Partial. I'd be, I'd be up in the mix. Yeah, I know it's gone off. Because this world is crazy. Because I already know the world is crazy. This world is like bananas. And so I think you got to be, we got to be locked in even more now. Because the access is so high. And my greatest fear is that the world tells my kid information that shapes them when I could be the one telling them. Do you know what I mean? Like, because when kids start talking in school, they be making up all kind of stuff. See, they were telling me some story. I'm like, oh, and what else? I'm like, and what they say? Like, huh? And you guys say calm. You know, sometimes you're like, wait, what? Let me tell you how this goes. Yeah. You know, so it's like, I think, I feel really proud sometimes when you beat the world to telling your kid something. I feel really proud of those moments, like having real conversations with them. So you're just only empowering them. You're only armoring them for the world, right? So. Beautiful. Yeah. Yeah. You're a good mommy. I try, I try, I try. I already know it. We got a voice note. We have a new section where our sponsor Boost Mobile. We do these voice notes where we have our IRL, like either in the comments or on the YouTube page. They send in notes for our guests. I think somebody sent you a note. Okay. A voice note. Can we play that? This is our Boost Mobile voice note. Hey, CC. My name is Amy and I am obsessed with you. So I'm so excited to ask you this question. So I've been with my partner for six years. Lately, it feels like we're more like business partners and lovers, just paying bills and parenting. How do you bring back joy when everything feels like a routine? I feel like they would listen. What's her name again? What was her name? Stacey. Amy. Amy. I feel like Amy was listening to our conversation today. I know, right? Before that came in. That was crazy. Okay. Listen, Amy girl, let me tell you something. That is life. So do not freak out. There's no need to panic. Sometimes when you're in, you know, your relationship and long-term relationships and marriages, you can get a little monotonous. And so my greatest thing is what I can share with you that I think is like worked for me and for us is you guys should get together and talk about the things that, you know, I'm going to talk to you because I feel like I'm talking to you, but you should get together and talk about the things that, you know, you feel like are kind of falling flat on or like, you know, have an honest conversation. I think you have to have honest conversation with each other about what you feel like is missing. And then you talk about ways to get to it. Like sometimes you're like, sometimes you have to plan. Don't just feel that way. Talk to your, talk about it. Talk that way. Talking about, that's the rule of life to me in general. You got to get your thoughts out when you're really struggling with them. Yeah. And then you put the plan together, right? You know, reminding yourself of the things that you love doing together. You know, I think you have to put the effort in. I think it's everything and carve out time for you guys. That's something that we, I feel like do pretty well. You know, especially when you have kids. Because I think she said she had kids, right? Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes it's hard. Like us, the mama strings in us, like, you know, the kids, they pull on those heart strings. But then you're also like, if you don't take care of you guys, then that's going to pour into everything else. And it's just not going to be good. So I do really enjoy when, you know, we get the time, we make time for ourselves. I would like to encourage you, Amy, to carve out time for you guys. It could be a little weekend getaway, even if it's a one night stay. Like, and. Recharge. Recharge. Put the phones away. Make sure your babies are in good hands and just like get wrapped up in you for a second. Like, I think that's really important. And then remember the things that each other, you say to each other. You know, think sometimes you can like address a moment in the moment, when time passes by and you conform back to old ways. Like, I think we have to keep mental notes of what our partner says, you know, so that we remember them when we need them most to show up for them in the best way possible. So I try to do that. Like I try to make conscious effort. Like, what did my honey say he doesn't like? And what did he say he loves? Like, okay, let's go CC. Let's get it. Like, you know, your challenge, like a challenge. Yeah, you know, like, yeah, you know, you want to keep that. Like I say, the butterflies always search for the beginning. Yeah. What about like, as we wrap up and thinking about your life and your career and everything that's happening now, like, what do you, I don't know, what are you, what are you most proud of through this whole journey of this, this since that 13 year old girl made that vision board? I know. That's a big question. What am I proud of? I'm proud of the woman that I'm still becoming. I'm proud of, you know, who I've become to this point. And, you know, I'm proud of, yeah, I'm proud of like where I am within myself internally. I'm proud of the journey as an entrepreneur. You know, like I said, I mean, literally it's 21 years as I put out my album and I'm just starting to get to do some of the things that I listen, I've done a lot of what I've dreamt of. And let me not say that. Like I've been very blessed over the past two, you know, decades. But in reference to what the vision was from an entrepreneurial perspective and an ownership perspective, I'm very proud of how that journey is evolving for me and how I believe I'm growing in this space. I feel really motivated. Like I feel really excited, you know. You still have that feeling. Yeah, you know, my faith is so. That that faith and that confidence and that passion is still here. I was just about to say I'm very proud that my faith hasn't wavered through it all. That's something I'm incredibly proud of. Because you have to have your faith, you know, especially when the world feels heavy on your shoulders and when you feel like the no resonates louder than the yes, you have to double down on your faith and just keep believing in yourself and like believing in what you've always believed even since you were a little girl. Since I was a little girl, like it all goes back to that little girl dreaming so big. After I remind myself like this is all a part of the dream. So like keep your faith and just trust. Like if you do the work, one plus one will equal three. Do the work, you know. So I'm proud of that. I'm proud of the faith. Yeah. And I'm just, I'm just, I don't know. I'm just grateful. Like I'm, I'm so, so grateful to be where I am in my life right now. Because I know God is working and I just want to be a good steward of what God has given me. You know, so I'm very, very, I don't know, I'm very proud of, yeah, all of that. Yeah, that's a lot. That's really good. The last question, it's a question in that bowl that didn't come up, but I'm going to ask you is if God, because you talk about what you're proud of and serving in, but like what do you, what do you think he would say? There's a bowl in there, a question that says, if God were to text you right now. Oh, you asked me this last time, I think actually. I'm curious where you are right now. I think you pulled it from the bowl last time. Yeah, I did. That's what I'm saying. But I'm curious today, if you were to get a text from God today, what would it say? A text from God is saying, he's just saying like just. Whatever. What would he say? What would his message to you be? What do you think? My last one was like, oh, CC. What do you think I would be saying to you today? What's the message? I think he would tell me, because I'm believing it, God would tell me, I'm very proud you're embracing this new era of your life. He would say, I'm very proud of you for embracing this. Do you want to know 40 clues? Is this his voice? No, I don't know. I think his voice would be way like, it would be like full, but like also like heavenly, you know, it would sound like when he speaks. But I think he would definitely say, I'm very proud of you for embracing this 40 club, this era. And he would tell me, Grotus, about to be your best season yet. Yes, that's how you end it. Sierra, real life, everybody. That's how you end it. This is going to be your best era yet. This is Sierra in real life. We have on Age of Martinez, IRL Podcast.