Subaru STI Returns! New $3 Million Dollar Rolls-Royce, Forbidden GM EV1 Auction?

Hello and welcome to this car pod. I'm Kenan. I'm Doug. And I'm Nick. Whoa, and Kenan is dressed up today. Yes, it's Halloween. It's Halloween, everybody. I'm wearing my Senna costume. And Kenan is Senna today, his personal hero. But he's finished the race and he's changed into his hat. Yes, well, the great ironies. He was very fast. I'm very slow. True. Okay, we have a lot to discuss today. It's Halloween. We have a spooky podcast. Ooh. I want tricks. No, I'm kidding. We have a normal podcast. Give us the first news. This is the biggest news story of the week. Unquestionably, Subaru in Japan in Tokyo has previewed a new STI concept car. Did you see this? That's interesting because they weren't going to make an STI version of the current WRX, correct? I think that that was said and it certainly has been true so far, right? The new WRX came out in 21. At the end of 21 is when I reviewed it. And it has been a pretty, I love the new WRX, but it's been a bit of a letdown in the sense that they didn't do a hatchback, they didn't do a wagon, and they didn't do an STI. True. This is all of those. It's got the box fenders. I love that rear arch treatment there. It's a giant wing. It's in the correct color for a WRX. And it is a manual transmission and a hatchback. Now, at this same ono show, Subaru also previewed an electric hatchback concept car thing and they said this is the future of our STI brand. But I think I speak for all of us when I say that I hope that this is the future of the STI brand. The only thing electric in this car is going to be the vape pen. We do not need an EV. I have to say, I have been a little bit disappointed with Subaru's decision here. For one thing, not to do the hatchback. Subaru did the hatchback the last time in 2011, 2012. It wasn't a huge seller and they said, OK, we're done. We're just going to do sedans. That's what the American market wants, which I think there was a time when that was true. However, since then, Audi RS6 has come back as a hatchback. The E63 wagon now outsells the sedan. The GR Corolla has shown up and been a big success. Since Subaru made this decision, the Focus and the Fiesta ST both came and went and they were quite popular. Those cars got ditched for reasons beyond how the success of the performance model. And I think that there's a real business case for going back to the hatchback situation. I would say they could dominate an unfulfilled niche right now. So it's a very good time to bring it back. It's not entirely unfulfilled because we have the GR Corolla, we have the Golf R, but this would be a good competition of those cars. Now, it can't have this wing. Well, it can't, but it will later on anyway. People will take inspiration from this. eBay, they will put these on the many other trucks. It can't come out of the factory like this, even though we know this is what people are going to do. I got to tell you, it's also this, the hatchback thing is important too because Subaru, a lot of Americans don't realize this, but Subaru does sell the new WRX in virtually every other overseas market as a hatchback and it's called either the LeVorg or the WRX Sportsback or various things. I even looked it up. I was looking it up today. They sell it in Chile and Peru. Chile gets it, but we don't. They just made this product planning decision. All Americans don't like hatches right as the hatch was, it was like the XTERRA. It's like right as the hatch started to take off, they were like, we're done. They always have like a five year latency. They're just behind like exactly what we want. Do you think it is that they don't think there's demand or is it a regulatory or otherwise compliance related? No, I mean, they sell the Crosstrek, which is a lifted version. So like there's, what's the issue with, you already make the powertrain. I'm not even necessarily asking for an STI, although it'd be cool, obviously this car, but even a WRX wagon, I think going back to that would be really cool. Those are my favorite WRXes from the old days. But this is incredible. I mean, this really is the STI that we've all wanted for many, many, many years. It's been five years since there was an STI. Yep. So Subaru, if you're listening, do it, bring it here. It'd be cool. I think it'd be cool. I, Subaru, abandoned STI, I have a suspicion because that's not what they wanted their brand to be in the US. They were going after the Forester and the Outback and the families and the dog people and Costco shoppers, but like, let's do this. Like, they're so well known for it, and it's so beloved. And apparently this has a flat four, a turbo flat four. And it is a good example of like a halo car. So when people do get the boring Forester's and, and Prezza's, they can at least think, oh, it's a performance car. It's used for rallies. It seems silly to like have such an obvious halo and not I agree They have an obvious halo STI has been the halo for so many years It was such a big deal and then they just kind of left it and what's even weirder is now They're previewing a concept version It's like okay Are you abandoning this or you're gonna do it if I were them I'd be doing like 22 bees and like going all in on that But if we're not gonna get that an STI is a note and they did there was the s209 which was like a seventy thousand dollar in Preza it's just it's so weird to me that they preview this as a concept. It doesn't really seem concepty This seems like a production car Maybe they knew they were gonna do this all along and they were like waiting for the later model years of Maybe you're extra like get people excited about but it's been years I mean you would think they would have done that like the year after or the next year or something that it's kind of Falls in the end of the product cycle thing if that's really what they're going typically STIs have not been that though the O2 WX was the first WX in the States and they had an STI by 04 That was the very beginning where they weren't even sure if the WRX would be a hit and they came to just two years later With a STI this would be five years late Different people different products ranches, but I really hope that they build it. I hope it comes and we need the box vendors I hope so too. I think the fenders are really cool. Maybe they're seeing what GR Corolla can do Yeah, or has done and and they're interested in being a part of that manual transmission manual transmission I'm seeing people in GR Corolla's that don't look like enthusiasts Can I can I just posit that that's because there it's probably not a GR Corolla, but you've mistaken a car No, no, no Exhaust and the little gizoo racing thing. I know my I know my Toyota sure I'm a Toyota truck guy sure. I think you Toyota truck guy in what in what way I admire land cruisers from a distance You know there's a short going around right now if you saying that people who buy Tacomas hate America. They do. I mean no It's very unclear Let me just tell you what they don't have cowboy holders in their dashboards, but we haven't talked about that I know we're going to okay the next big news story I think one of the biggest news story of the week General Motors announced this week that an eyes-off version of supercruise is coming That's a huge deal. That's a very big deal Supercruise of course is their self-driving or they want to say driver assist, but at this point we can start calling itself driving I think and in the video Previewing this is there the photo. There's a woman watching TV as her as her escalate IQ drives down the street and I Love supercruise and I think it works wonderfully and I think that the big drawback is that you have to always be looking forward Have you guys used this any of these systems? No the ones that are eye monitoring? If you look down at your phone for even two seconds, it's like And it's like well the whole point of this is so that I can be on my phone, right? For be honest Isn't that isn't that like why we're trying to do driver assist like it for big you would think you would think from yeah Yes for most people yes, I would say that's it the fact that this is a possibility and they're seeing a couple more years 28 That's really appealing. Are there no regulatory hurdles around this that they had to clear my assumption is that the primary regulatory hurdles that They have to then accept liability in the case of accidents which seems scary But remember how supercruise works that it only works on mapped roads So it doesn't you can't just turn it on it only works on roads that they themselves have mapped out And so with that in mind they probably have a pretty good Knowledge of hey because it's really only freeways into some higher speed like state highways and US highways Open more open yeah, it's not like you can just do it in the city GM won't take liability for that I assume but if you're on the five they know how it turns You know if this is not new nothing is new about these freeway right and it's more predictable What's going to happen as opposed to streets where their kids running around in soccer soccer balls or squirrels or whatever? Yeah, I mean I working in advertising. I can only imagine how many people had to sign off on this image Yeah, specifically demonstrating no eye contact no hand on the wheel watching TV Like they knew what GM is not like willy-nilly about this. So yeah, that's a good point They they just showing this picture is like them saying we're gonna do this and the lawyers were probably The lawyers like yeah, make sure the phones far away from it. Oh, yeah Make that heaven forbid you're on a phone while you're watching a movie Well, I hear the guy who's talking on the phone in the movie theater. That's who it is. No, no I am very encouraged as a guy who does a lot of long-distance driving on the freeway I'm very encouraged by this and I think it could be really really cool And if if GM does it and Mercedes Benz has also talked that said that they might do something like this in the future It would be really big for long-hauled drivers. Definitely. It could pop into his escalate IQL and wouldn't that be nice No, you know, I was in Washington DC this week. You know what the best part was didn't see a single escalate IQ They're all over here. Yeah, they really are they're all over and it is just such a ridiculous vehicle You know, it's funny because everyone thought the Hummer EV SUV would take off and you'd never see those Yeah, but you're seeing the IQ everywhere. So it's like, okay They had the right concept, but everyone wanted the escalate not I don't get who buys them because liberals don't want a Cadillac Escalade and Republicans don't want an electric car. So who is this crossover? That's what not only that it's the most in your face of all of that 10,000 pounds and it costs a hundred thousand dollars and it's the biggest car on the road yet again that orange County crossover Yeah, it works in San Diego Southern California. It worked it plays here Yeah, I still think my theory that I posited of the group thread that everyone deep down once a full-size range rover People just aren't willing to accept it. And so an IQ is a falling short vehicle It's not I wanted the full-size range. Have you been I got an escalate because I didn't want to be too flashy or what? Have you? You're trying to curate a Cayman GT4 nucleus theory with the new range The new range is everything it's just not that it does a lovely automobile and the Cadillac de Vil tail lights the long vertical slits Fine, it's fine. I just some of us look some of us We drive Toyota Sequoia built in Texas. We love America and some of us won our European Fancy Europe. I think what you're trying to say is some of us are willing to admit We want the Range Rover the rest of us are liars. No, dude. I had I've had two ranges I will not those are not the same and L3 22 is not what I had it. Yes, but we've come a long way Give us the next news story. I don't know. It's not a tangent. Oh, oh, 2006 infinity G35 sedan Oh, this is G35 breaking news takeover in fit. I Assume that's what the story is. Yes. No, believe it or not infinity has announced that they are returning with a sedan Wow, which is unbelievable because they just recently cancelled their mid-size SUV Which is kind of like the whole thing, right? So they decided to cancel a platform that could potentially be popular with one that definitely won't be Hey, Kenan raise your hand if you didn't know that infinity didn't already make a sedan currently it Infinity stopped doing the Q50 for after the 24 model year, although. I'm sure there are still some left. Yeah, yeah, right But but but the the remaining cars in infinity's lineup are now only the QX 60 Which is a mid-sized three-row SUV and the QX 80 which is a full-size three SUV They've even cancelled the QX 50 which is their kind of small mid-size That was like x3 competitor and the x3 is and GLC and Q5 are probably the biggest sellers for those brands and infinity Doesn't even have a rival and they're saying instead of putting research effort into that We're gonna go after a sedan infinity's not a good spot. I mean, do they just like live under a rocker in a bunker Well, they don't know what else is going on Nissan's the parent company Nissan's and Dire Strait infinity is kind of like their sub-brand So if the main company is not getting enough R&D imagine what like being I have a theory that Infinity's not is will not make it and we'll we'll go under here in the next like will it will may not see 2030 Yeah, let's see. I think that seems highly likely. It's it's up there with everyone once a full-size range Rover theory and that it's probably true No one can prove it, but it's probably there is no part of me. I had a defender I bought it brand new. Yeah, there is no part of me that sits here thinking damn I wish I had a full-size you drive a sequoia with camouflage fender, so we don't need to I can't live in my community Yeah, I cannot have a full-size range. I bet there's one on every block Absolutely, I can there I cannot drive a focus. I'm gonna go leisurely drive later Nick has Nick has two properties both at the beach and and I don't I'm not a I'm not able to Participate on any of that right I love solving problems Whether it's fixing the coon-tush with Doug in a couple of cold ones or solving the latest squeak in my e39 Nothing is more satisfying than fixing something That's exactly why I have been using Claude for a recent complex project that Philippo have me work on I needed to connect insights across a ton of sources Naturally that would take hours But Claude found connections across 50 plus sources that I wouldn't have spotted myself It doesn't just give me the answers that helps me think through the problem Claude is the AI for minds that don't stop at good enough It's the collaborator that actually understands your entire workflow and works with you not for you Whether you're debugging code at midnight or strategizing your next business move Claude extends your thinking to tackle the problems that really matter Philippo also use Claude's artifacts to quickly build an ROI calculator for some of our corporate business meetings Something interactive that he could share the same day without having to write a single line of code If you want an AI partner that helps you go deeper and actually extends your thinking then you need to check this out Really tackle bigger problems sign up for Claude today and get 50% off Claude Pro when you use our link Claude.ai slash cars that's Claude.ai slash Cars right now for 50% off three months of Claude Pro Claude.ai slash cars Okay, move on to the next news story The GM EV one did you see this? Yes all this yeah rich rebuilds posted it and I was really hoping he would have gotten it But it brought in serious money So GM EV one was General Motors electric car in the 90s and the way these cars work They were only the least to consumers and then when the leases were up General Motors bought them back Or or took them back they didn't allow people to renew the leases and they crushed most of them It was the subject of this big documentary Which of course the documentary on an electric car is dead of course now EVs are everywhere So it's it's not as you know secret and special and news conspiracy as it once was but a few of the EV ones Were were given donated to universities and there are universities all around the country that have them in various states of Disrepair because it was cool for the universities and their engineering students to like check out at the time in 1999 But now the technology is old nobody cares anymore EVs everywhere In fact, they have a lot some of the universities They're just sitting in parking lots like people approach them and see them and they pass around on social media occasionally with flat tires And in this state and so I think this car was at a university and it has now been auctioned At some sort of auto auction in Georgia and it sold for over a hundred thousand dollars a hundred and four grand from research Which these universities that have them sitting around well There's an easy way to get some yeah Well, the problem was the universities all had to sign an agreement with GM that they would never sell the car And I so I wouldn't be surprised if the new owner of this car finds himself in a little bit of trouble Probably GM doesn't care anymore. I can't remember remember when you weren't allowed to sell a cyber truck and everyone was afraid to do that And it was like a serious thing. Yeah, who do we accept it? Oh? Hummer review is my favorite because like you said what do we do not buy another GMC like right What are they gonna do for my guy you con trust me? I gotta happen but I mean I guess they're probably ways around they probably gifted to someone else and that party can then sell The universities were not allowed to dispose of them at all which is why they're they're in kind of derelict state at universities across the country and I Assume that this one was at a university that failed like that went bankrupt or something and that probably is the only way that it happened So there's nobody left for GM to go after it the university But this will be the first if you want in private hands since the time period the only drawback is Does anybody care it doesn't seem like I from what I I haven't been able to figure out who won it yet And that may come out by the time this is posted But wouldn't this be the best way to start a YouTube channel ever because you get that you get the restoration of like the interior with Garbage in it and like the exterior and then you also get to see like how it ran like take it apart like engineering explain like Someone like that could really go into the battery you could do a some great co-labs. Yeah engineering explain you could do Larry Rich rebuilds you for a review. Yeah. Yeah for sure Maybe a little to varnish in there, you know, here's an interesting fact I have to this day an original EV one owners manual really house. Yeah, I was on eBay in 2000 it was before I moved to California 2016 late at night Yeah, and it popped up somehow in my algorithm and I bought it. It was like 30 seconds and I've had it ever since I would love to see Your eBay algorithm. Oh, like you know owners manuals weird stuff one thing. I don't know about this car is That I learned in the owners manual It had it had a keypad to start it. There were not keys Huh, so like here they're gonna have to do an LL like a security code or something you typed in a code How many attempts you get before a lock? Yeah, I wonder it's explained that is that exact Wow explain the owners manual The owners manual is great It's got all these like hand-drawn images of the EV one and you know a person jumping out of the way or whatever owners manuals have You know, it doesn't look that terrible and it kind of looks like a gen one viper from that particular angle Yeah, there's a lot of gen one viper like in a bad way. Yeah, like a smush melt in sort of way my presumption is this was on bill of sale it said it had to be sold to a Georgia resident which was odd and The windshields broken which I Yeah, you're not Unless you broke when I was a when I was a student in Atlanta There was one at Georgia Tech's campus that was just sitting in a parking garage on love you break under the it kind of looks like Just take it like the glass or something which you could easily make it does kind of look like it's flexible. Yeah, right pretty cool Please someone get this back on the road Sell it on card well, I mean to spend over a hundred grand. It's a museum. It's possibly GM themselves It'd be cool if Jay was like I'm sure he wasn't bidding on a random auto auction I'm a third GM would never go after Leno, you know, like a people that's sure and he'd be into it The bidding the bidding list would be really interesting roll-a-decks to have yeah, yes, it would be yeah Would have been cool. Kenner, why didn't you drop the hundred grand on it? Well, you know, it's not really a 109 and then I think there was what the buyer fees were another 13% So you really want 120 nice value For a car that hasn't run in 25 years and even then when it ran just it had a hundred mile range and like 90 horsepower You can have that or a 575 I think I'd pick the 575 but that nonetheless that is much cooler than a 575 Love to see it run. Hmm. I'd take the 575. Yeah, I don't know it'd be cool to see an EV1 like doing its thing As you and I are learning with the a2 and multipla sometimes having yeah, sometimes catching this is not worth the The range and the multiply. Yeah Driving at the Long Beach both ways over the weekend. I'm good for a little while. Yeah, that's the thing and that's why I'm never doing it again Okay, next new story Nick. Oh, this is my this is mine There is a this is just a concept is probably not gonna happen Although it should and a real American truck company not Toyota Has a Toyota builds the trucks with non-union labor. It doesn't get any more American than that It doesn't get any more red-blooded conservative than that SEMA concept So it's probably not gonna happen. They did the dude. It is a throwback to an old TV show or something No one really cares. However, there is a cowboy hat holder on the dashboard I think it's brilliant even if it's just a little theater would pop would pop Pop I had a 94 f-150 and I used to sneak out in the middle of the night Me and my cousin Andrew and we go do donuts in the cornfields. I then return it I remember one time we got carried away and we had to basically zip tie the bumper back on I've been just pray to God none of our parents the next day. So did he never notice nope There's a Ford did you still go out and do the donuts after that? Yeah, we hit a lot of cars So that was that was just the one no one cared about You've lived such a story the man had two Cadillac Alantes wow I'm the crazy one of my family on someone had to wait where it started Calibri had hold it. So this is a concept only Nick. This isn't gonna I know Although it honestly looks no different than like a cell phone holder here like this shouldn't be that hard to retrofit I'm sure there is a startup on Alibaba or Amazon. That's already person Stetson's gonna bring one out Yeah, you know, it'll be an accessory my hat's a Stetson. It would look good like that Okay, you could put your little child's helmet on it too. It's Senna's helmet for God's sake His literal helmet he wore the yeah wearing it when he crashed must not work. Oh my god What's our next news story, please? Oh, yes, this one's for me. So although this looks like a random drawing This is very important Ferrari recently filed a patent now last week We talked about how Porsche was filing that patent for the W18 engine, which is very yeah For all right not to be outdone also file the patent But this one is very interesting because it's about side exit exhaust front engine side exit exhaust Now I looked a little bit more at the patent and what's interesting is in a different picture They have very clearly it's for a v12 There are two rows of six cylinders and it all dumps out at the side now One can only imagine that this will be for something in the Icona series, but that said yeah Automobile manufacturers file patents all the time doesn't necessarily mean they're going to make a car But if you had to bet on it it seems like a front engine v12 with side exit exhaust like an SOR It's gonna say yeah, it exists. Do you know anything? I mean mind's a V8 you ever had a car with side exit exhaust? I sure have The blipers side exit. I mean there's plenty of credit like well Yeah, but this is in front of like yes There are cars like that but there must be something specific about the routing or You that we both have V8 Mercedes convertibles with side exit I do want to get a picture with the SLR and the G500 together. Yeah, it's sort of like the Step-children what year is yours 99? That's such a Swiss picture SLR and a GCab that was very and the to this is really cool And I am excited to see what turns out from it I am too and I think this will this made me think of something deeper to it's like cuz we've kind of want for We feel like for us lost the plot with the supercar thing You know 288 through the Enzo makes sense the love for that all makes sense and now it's gotten kind of weird with the murky Yep I think that the Icona series is now the most desirable cars that they make all to you Well sort of the SP1 and 2 aren't desirable at all. So you have this weird issue, but if maybe yes, right? I suppose I desire them. They're kind of the same code. Do you yeah? I know what it is. Yeah, no, I like the one-seater one version Especially one I like the SP1 and SP2 to be clear. I think in any V12 car with no windshield is insane I don't know if it belongs in that lineage, but I drove it. I thought the coolest thing I've ever driven But not that's not literally got to wear one of these but it's not like the Daytona SP3 is like legit a yeah Yeah, and if this whatever this ends up being if it's a I don't know why they feel the need to have front exit Is that exciting? We'll find out why not so I don't know I think I'm very curious to see if this car ever comes into existence and if it does yeah It'll be cool. Congrats SLR. Congratulations Ferrari for inventing side exhausts. We're very proud of you The Italian's would tell you they we have ended it's a Different to the side this is what we make here. Yes They did have in the 50s some cars that had like pipes coming off the well. They were race cars You just you know, maybe that's what this straight to atmosphere. Okay. Give us our next new story Yes rolls Royce. So this is the centenary edition or the centenary edition Rolls Royce Phantom Now they've done this before they've done some tenories for rolls Royce is a company This is for the Phantom nameplate specifically cool and for our and Rolls Royce has gone to exceptional lengths to make this car Something very opulent so they're only gonna build 25 of these to celebrate 100 years of the Phantom Yep, and they've done a lot to the interior Not all of which I would call tasteful Is that like a silver cloud on the yes seats yes, so they early and like a oh five Phantom So there are 77 different hand stitch motifs in this and it's all Seven in in this one. Yes, and what you choose between 77. No, no 76 wasn't enough. They said our buyers demand more still 77 into this Which is you remember the McLaren with the seats look like someone crap them. So yeah Yeah, it's not for up being that bad bad, but it doesn't art, but it does not end there There are also these these separate panels that have like 45 different separate components There's one on the dashboard is like this these ones are maps of their favorite driving roads Which when I think why I think aggressive driving roads what I want is a car that weighs more than a planet and has dinner plate We allow the their favorite driving roads. That's correct They they said specifically their geographical maps with winding routes and sweeping landscapes floral elements and depictions For their experimental motor cars, they're the ones that Rolls-Royce deemed the most significant sweeping formative on their journey for the I will say it looks cool as hell the exterior The exterior is beautiful. Well, yeah, but you know, it's the so the spread of ecstasy is made out of 24 karat gold So it's a truly taste like tasteless car But the most tasteful thing about it is they said that these cars will sell for approximately 3 million three mil Wow, which is a lot more than a normal Phantom So you could have that yeah, we're all ratty f50 yep, so yeah, and you get to stare at this Well, you thankfully you don't have to start it because you're in the front which hopefully doesn't look no no It's a phantom. You're being driven. You're in the back. You're stuck staring at this crap man So I don't know this was the ugliest interiors have ever seen yeah, but you know But hey good for Rolls-Royce glad they were able to distill it down to just 76 77 motifs Hey for 75 million dollars. They'll bring in sure Imagine you get just like a tiny tear in that upholstery. Yeah, well, can you patch that up? Right, I'm gonna start over right. Yeah, you yeah, but you could add some more motifs Yeah, that's true. That's years. It's like when you've got your whole arm with the tattoo sleeve like it just They're stuck with that till it's all black this that would be the moves just to fill the rest in yeah Just like dump some black paint on it and you have black seats look like they're out of a bus So the base cushion looks like that and that looks like it's out of some I was gonna say our deco bathroom Looks like a 90s city bus And then the regulatory seatbelts are so funny. Okay, is that the end of the news? That's the end of the news Thanks, God We have to move on to the talk cars segment which is huge this week because we have an actual spot You know how I always say the talk cars negative sponsor by my brother place giraffe shirt We have an actual sponsor this week and it's pilotee and they make driving shoes Such as these and they are actually legitimately cool. 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How you feeling give you 30 bucks We got a lot to talk about in the talk car segment. This is our most talk Yeah, we do talk car segment in the history of talk car segments. Okay, I think the number one thing We got to talk about is well wait. Let me quickly. Let me do a very quick the kuntas I posted yeah on Instagram that broke down It was fixed instantly no big deal and everybody's like you were just saying it was reliable still is what was it? You want me to find out for you? I'd love to I believe it was something with the distributor I was the distributor was the drive gear on the distributor was stripped They replaced the drive gear reset the engine timing they were able to do this the the car broke down over the weekend and and by Monday it was all good. I'm gonna do a whole video about it on my channel Okay, great, but that's the basics and it was no big deal And I want to say that a whole video on a 24-hour turnaround fix. Well, that's what it's great Everybody's like oh, you were just saying it was reliable and now it jinxed it as far as I'm concerned If you're trying to daily ish a 43 year old Supercar to have one breakdown and the fix is like this four hours of labor Still feel as pretty reliable right it is and ultimately it's okay in half years It also kind of underscores like how basic that car actually is it's not like modern supercars where I figured out would take You know a team of engineers. There's all these fears about this car But like it's just an old car now There's some stuff that's real but you address that stuff on your schedule when you're supposed to maintenance But you know repairs and stuff at the end of the day. It's not that crazy Especially a carbureted car like same with my dad 67 months I'm like distributor cap take it off make sure it's not corroded like clean them put it back Like it's gonna fix that thing with a screwdriver and a hose pipe couple of gold one and Nick has done it before He and papa went out there. 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No the car was was sitting behind I just didn't want to distract from the mercy logo while the auction was still live And also I wanted to have a video to go along with it before I really talked about it and both of those are true So the mercy logo will just quickly touch on that since it wasn't it was partially discussed on the podcast But got two hundred ninety thousand dollars the buyer is paid it actually just got picked up like an hour ago by the ship We're going to Denver going to Denver An enthusiast body who has a three five five gts Wow, I'm a Clarence 650 like a super cool guy him and I've been like chatting. He's very much of art He's like I create a three-ring binder for every car and like so I've sent him all my service records when I was a child in Denver Yeah, seeing this what it changed my life. You know what's even crazier? There's a guy five minutes from his house that has a Grigio on terrace mercy logo Roadster that was also converted by Mockin' a Motor you're kidding. No, I'm five minutes away. Huh, so they're gonna have like twin cars basically, but wow So that car sold I was thrilled with the outcome and now I can like Focus on the SLR now that that's like off my plate mentally and oh I cannot tell you how much I love the SLR I'm so thrilled to hear that because there's so much BS about the SLR They're from people who have never even been near one Yeah, people have never even seen one in their lives and you've now driven one for quite quite a time It really it surprised me. I mean having never driven one before buying it in an arriving I was you expect a Mercedes the guy was expecting an SL 500 a grandpa car I was expecting it to be like soft floaty quiet Compliant like very usable, but like maybe boring run this car feels so much faster than the mercy It just like makes you giggle and squeal like a squirrel girl like I scared my wife like literally the first drive She's like please stop doing this and she's written in the mercy of logo plenty like like she was as surprised as I was It's just how fast and raw and analog it was at one point Nick texted We have a group thread me and Canada feel and Nick said my life will be measured in pre I'm trying to find these my life will be measured in pre-sup from now on going forward My life will be measured in pre SLR and post SLR. Yeah, and you said something like this is the greatest experience I've ever had or something like it feels like a religious experience to me. I'm just I I'm getting like four miles per gallon because it's just like Then like I just like giggle Wow Like I'm just doing that over and over again like I'm a boy who discovered his first What what Nick finish? Dude, I car I'm so pumped for you. I think this is so great. I think the SLR is undervalued I think it is cool as held alive. It's sitting over there. I think it is so cool to look It's very special to look at but what I'm would I appreciate it over the weekend? So it was my birthday my wife and I went out on a date. We went to pickleball No one looked at me. Yeah, right like I'm used to between the multiply the mercy even the Bentley I'm used to getting stared at every time I go somewhere and not a soul ever even look twice Yeah, and so to me that's wonderful because I can go places kind of anonymously But at the same time like if you're an enthusiast you look at it and you're like holy crap that is neat So it is a super car that you can like really truly use it as a very usable car They're kind of experiencing what he experienced with the career GT Only the people know the people who'd actually want to have conversations with the poster what are you doing for a living? That's our thing Those people notice it and everybody else just thinks it's a drawback of the career GT though Is it so much more fragile and I think one of the cool things about the SLR is pretty stuff You can use it like the approach angles the departure angles. It's like a normal car It doesn't have axle lift, which is the only bummer relative to the mercy. I Might have scraped the front bumper just to touch Under there like the the the koon-tosh is no problem to scrape you just like pain and every so well There's a I mean there's a little overhang of the bumper and then under trace from that Yeah, but and I just got a little bit of the bumper, but it's going to Kevin for paint protection film tomorrow Oh good. It doesn't ppf at all. No, and it's only got 4,800 miles like the paints pristine I also think you just bought the perfect one because because it had had this electrical incident We're not calling it a fire. They're gonna play this just like Vietnam was a conflict a minor short like I've had in my Bentley three times Because it had this incident You know it's priced at a level where yeah, it should be a higher mileage car price that point Yep, so you can really enjoy the miles without kind of worrying about even though it's a super low mileage car And ultimately the condition is excellent because hasn't been driven silver is beautiful This car I've ever had too nice who we took good care of it despite his reputation for being a hoopty guy like yeah It needs nothing it came with a Fleetwood Mac CD in the trunk like I'm Thrilled who V&A brought listen to Fleetwood Mac with Steely Dan He blames the previous owner, which was Wayne Carini However, yeah somewhere along that lineage had some boomerish tape to music which I don't mind a Steely Dan's not so bad But yeah, you know That's what you listen to you're correct it is I checked it out. I didn't hate it Steely Dan is on the soundtrack of my life. All right. Oh my god two guys from Ohio talking about Steely Dan How lovely I'm so thrilled though and it is funny because you and I have joked that hey on the podcast We say what we're looking to buy then the cars kind of find us and that's what happened with the SLR And I hope that happens with you and your 993 I folks I'm ready to get a 993 turbo I'm ready to get an arena red 993 turbo is on the 993 forms the other day and somebody posted all proudly They just bought a 993 turbo. They had just begun living you know what the dream the fantasy It's pre 993 turbo and they're will eventually post 993 turbo I went to Radwood over the weekend and you ruined it for me Oh because there was one for sale with the for sale sign at 200,000 miles Literally everyone came up to me and say hey Nick or whatever they said hey, did you see the 993? You should text Doug you should text Doug like I have you've seen it. He's not interested It's too many miles. Please like introduce yourself something else. No actually legitimately though Look, Radwood is amazing and people really know the number of people who sent me the GME V1 When you get to when you get to like be like a figure which are your your now as far as I'm concerned The number of people you can if an SLR is in the news. Yeah, you're gonna get Hundreds of people everybody that you've ever met or heard about is gonna send you and be like here's something and you're gonna have to Politely reply unlike the third podcast we ever did or whatever. I mentioned the Volkswagen Golf like W12 I Yeah, hundreds of people It is like Instagram posts on it is how like when I said I'm looking for a multiple a lot of people did reach out and give me some Legitimate leads on it. So it is good. It just it's a lot. Yeah, it's I love it I'm very happy people think of thinking of us. Okay. Tell me about the 1990s car show that you went to over the week 1980s and 90s. It was actually really really fun What I learned about Radwood is no we go to a lot of like cars and coffees and there's Ferrari four or five eighths everywhere and you kind of get like numb to just seeing super car after super car after super car Radwood brings out the best kind of enthusiasts and the best kind of cars I mean there was everything from like a 1980s Ram pickup that was just like survivor bone stock to like low riders with graphics and body drops and There was also some nice cars like the Peterson brought an EB-110 and 959 The multiple was there parked between the porta potties and a testarosa, which where it belongs It's a graph it's like the ascendancy The multiple the testarosa I think it was intentional and I love it like so everyone there is a sense of humor the people there are so nice It felt like a more diverse crowd and a like very very positive way Like people are just in the diff like one person came up to me goes you mentioned on the pod an Acura vigor I then put on the screen a legend and they were like that really bothered me Like that is the type of person that goes to Radwood, you know like I that is a real enthusiast Remember that was that bothers me to the bigger as we all know was a five cylinder Like an Audi um we've had some five cylinders. Yeah, we have we have yeah Double down. Yeah, so yeah, it was it was a thrill. I did not win anything. What I was gonna say you didn't win I was last time you were at Radwood you won. I did I did I was hoping for it to beat I think I needed like graphics and a little bit more 90s flare Although I word neon green hammer pants a pink ball cap like I tried really hard I agree with your assessment of redwood. I think redwood is a super fun event I've only went to one because I There are way better than the the last one the one I went to is when you showed your xp8 You're saline Explorer and you want one with the best SUV right? Yeah, Radis at Radis SUV And it was a killer my kuntas won Radis car at Radwood 2018 or something. There was a 40th anniversary there proven on 40th anniversary 20 25th anniversary This is a little bit. I know I know I had heart see But it is such a fun show and I'll tell you something as a guy who like really lived through that era and is into those and Has driven all the supercars the stuff that's more appealing to me now is like the survivor Caravans and Acura vigors and things like everybody took care of an F40 So few people took care of those cars and that's just I would it can't really catches your eye when you see a clean one Yeah, yeah, and there was everything there was like just and that's what I remember really going to the one that you and Me went to when he was showing his car like clean like Mazda 626 like stuff that just shouldn't remember to have been saved Remember two things about that that and on the way there. We saw it 355 broken broken down the free Yeah, you said you said to me sure you want to buy a It wasn't even redwood related was on the 73 hours before but they were headed. I think I know it Yeah, absolutely. They would gotten there about the same time. I think it was orange County Yeah, it was always orange. I was pleased the multiple despite it being like a lot of time in that car It does freeway speeds fine like it. Yeah, it got me there and back without issue or drama Which it is not a lot of folks there like the one guy was like I had a broken foot I drove down from like Seattle or somewhere crazy and I realized mid-drive the cruise control didn't work You know like people really sacrificed to get their cars there And I'm like, yeah, it was like a hour and a half leisurely drive in the morning and the multiple so cool They must have been it must have been a huge. Yeah, you know a lot of people came up super excited I knew about they've been watching or they're just just people who are like who are you and why I think both Yeah, I mean a few people came up to me like crazy Nick and I'm not used to being recognized or called crazy by strangers Used to that was really fun And then other people just like what on earth is this thing and then you get to explain it and I just hung out around the car Most of the time watching people engage with the car and be impressed by the car and it made my day Like I had such a fun time. I'm glad I couldn't go. I was out of town. I love Radwood I love going to Radwood and if they ever did one in San Diego, I know it would change my life They think so Cal is LA. What about us? It is it is just far enough especially since you you can't leave early So you if you're showing your car you're committed the whole day So I left it like 7 30 a.m. And I think I got home at 6. Oh, yeah, that's a problem It's a long day speaking of the whole day Kenan has an experience that he did Kenan went to Mexico City this week for the formula one right? Yes, as I mentioned I went to see the see the grown pre from our offering Kevin's back to party and you couldn't be like You're out town. You can be like it was your birthday, but it was awesome We had a great time Mexico City is an amazing place and the car enthusiasts in Mexico City are wild Like there's some great stuff there a lot of it is hidden immediately But like there's some amazing cars that we we just went and got dinner at like this baria That was just like around and we were talking to the like a It was an expedition a netty bower Nice nice and like we were all freaking out over that and they like knew we were carpools late like brought their phones up I'm like showing us cars and those like they're flipping through and like McLaren fear sign Whatever and then e39 and five and I lost yeah I was thrilled about but we went to the race and the race was so much fun in case you don't know the Circuit cuts through an old baseball stadium So it's like I've seen the actual track goes through the middle which is really cool And it's very hard on the cars because you're at high elevation So brakes are cooling is a problem in general so they run like special engine covers like just huge slices in them The race itself wasn't super. I saw a track. We're sure almost got hit. We're doing that with that No, that was a different corner, but that was crazy And that that was the FAA is investigating that and how that happened It was a wild race a lot happened But the coolest thing I think that you too would appreciate at the beginning was the driver parade this happened like there are a number of manufacturers You know obviously make cars as well. I'm just into race cars So they put the drivers in equivalents of what those cars are from a clan They had an MP4 12 C spider for some reason because it was local because it was local Well, you know what else was local an F 50 and a La Ferrari a perta and so Lewis Hamilton and Charlotte Claire were in a the blue Carbon F 50 which everybody's freaking out about like awesome the rare blue carbon. It's like well modify the car started out It's like red but it was nonetheless. It's like we we didn't know it was gonna be that we just saw this F 50 on the track It's like oh my god. Yeah, and then they got it and just like sat on the engine cover I saw that I was shocked by that Because yeah, I've held those driver's go that leave the car and the La Ferrari a perta too because the Ferrari engine power some of Some other cars like their their drivers and those too But like it was just like so cool to see the car trouble you that the highlight of the Formula one race was what a street car drove around the track well and as an F1 and real F1 engine something you Real what just like my career my highlight of that photo was Max for stopping just behind the F 50 and a Ford Mustang base model that looked like he went to Hertz and they're like oh for ten dollars more you can get a convertible At all use local people's cars. Yeah, yes and admitted I mean not all of the manufacturers then make those cars There are like and engine manufacturers like your SLR could have been could be a cooler than a V6 had lack of running they're gonna have people on that was the other thing that number wheels yeah because Sergio Perez Mexican driver is going to drive for Cadillac next year the number of like Cadillac hats Which is cool I'm excited to see another team on the grid to technically out he's gonna replay sour, but nonetheless it was like yeah The race was exciting for me and that a Ferrari finished second which is kind of said that's way of the celebrate But that's there you know first podium of the year. Oh, it's kind of sad. Is that true? It's not their first podium of the year But it's like they was looking like they were going to like we're gonna have a Lewis Hamilton to like Charlotte Click Lewis Hamilton Unfortunately Hamilton ran this a penalty ten seconds didn't end up on the podium, but nonetheless nothing like penalty But they didn't win which was sadland and Norris won the race, but we were really hoping for our win But nonetheless they at least were standing on the top steps. I'm proud you went. I'm glad you like Mexico City I think Mexico City is one of the coolest places my personal view on take on the car scene in Mexico City was not as positive as yours I died though. I did enjoy the smattering of Dodge Neons from all generations I enjoyed that too saw a neon s or t4 which is very cool. Wow. Yeah of real in Mexico But I deeply love Mexico City and it sounds like a cool place to go see a formula one race Oh really cool And I highly recommend that if anybody get if you're a Formula one fan you've never been to a race Find one that is accessible to you highly encourage you to look at going to foreign countries It's expensive to get there for once you are the tickets aren't so bad But it's so cool to see the cars and hear the cars and smell them and like the whole thing in person It's a much different experience and everyone should do it if you can do a formula one race I went to Vegas for FP1 and that was the year that then someone ran over a manhole. Yeah, they shut it all down So of course I saw like a lap of a free practice one But that's it. But you got to meet David Colthard. Didn't you? Yeah, no, yeah It was we were like VIP with the whole tracks. That's it was next year You and me go to Vegas together just the two of us can we rest there's still time? Okay, this year anyway formula one cannon sauna 50. That's the highlight of the formula one experience pretty good weekend It's pretty good and we celebrate in Kevin. That's really counts I got to talk cars things I want to talk about can you pull up the slides, please? Yes That's a Mercedes GLK. I've seen where I by the way these these These talk car segments are only for the viewers the two these two will not care about either one I'm doing these only for you watching at home This is a Mercedes Benz GLK. I was in Washington DC all week. Not a lot of cool cars there So anyway Mercedes Benz GLK normal GLK regular model base model GLK 350 except Except look a little closer. Ken. There's a picture of the GLK on the GLK. That's suspicious You ever see that before I Have because you texted it to me two days ago, and I didn't care then I'll tell you something Still don't care now if you're a car enthusiast you still don't put a picture of your car on your car Okay, I remember what it looks like But if you have a GLK you especially don't put a picture of your car on your car But it makes me wonder we had that GLK with the V8 swap the guy did the manual you think that's this well This guy might be an enthusiast maybe it says there's no Enthusiast who owns a GLK. There's not one. I was one how you'd get one of these decals You have you have some crazy shirts of cars that are very obscure. You're right though. I don't know what's it going I'd love to know the story of it. If you have a GLK. How do you care enough to put a? GLK sticker on your GLK Doug is the kind of guy that I love it would put a GLK sticker on your kid But I would never have a gilkin the first place. I promise you 90% of people who have GLK's don't know what they're driving Period I love that was just what was in stock Like what their parents bought them as a used cause this is a $7,000 used car now Please bring up the next slide, which is this now Nick? Are you aware of why this is special? The wheels imply that it is a heavy-duty version the wheel very good. That's very good. That's all I know This is a guy who grew up with horses those windows also look to be like bulletproof or it looks like you spend any time in Washington DC you will see armored heavy-duty Yukon's in suburban's they're common However, this one is particularly interesting and you'd have to have quite an eye to notice there'll be nine viewers who are gonna be like yeah There they never made GM at any point in the history of the suburban never made a short-wheel-based heavy-duty But this is a short-wheel-based heavy-duty and not only that but it's a Denali Yeah, so some some big wig is getting driven around in a non-existent short-wheel-based heavy-duty And in a Denali. Yeah, what is our tax dollars aren't going to put these people in base models anymore? They want luxury This is a crazy car If you're if you're into these like high heavy-duty GM SUVs and there is a group of people who are really into them This is a really unusual vehicle. It looks weird being that short It does look very heavy duty that short the eight lug wheels. It's crazy Yeah, obviously, it's also bulletproof But a lot of a lot of these big SUVs and in DC are bulletproof But this is a really unusual car to see a shorty heavy duty and to see a Yukon being used or for a Denali being used for this purpose You know what they're not using. Mmm Toyota Sequoia. You know why? Why say one an American car, you know the Sequoia? It's actually interesting point the Sequoia is built in the United States and so it would qualify for the Buy American Act They should be using Sequoias. I think it's great that they're using Denali's big fan They're driving you're cool with the fact that they're driving around in ventilated rear seats I mean, it's not like it's an IQ that there's levels. It's not it's not a Range Rover full-size Which is what they really wanted and they settled with it Don't you think what do you think Papa would say about his tax dollars going to buy these people luxury? I would he would say at least it's not a Cadillac at least it's not a cat it is never a Cadillac that I've driven thousands of Cadillacs Well hundreds, but it's the same thing. You know, he's an escalator Yeah, but this is a cool car if you're into this stuff, please leave a comment and make sure and and let me know that I'm not the only one Our talk car segment is done. Oh, we do unless you want to talk about the a2 So the Audi a2 so I was here late at the office of the night cleaning the M5 getting it dialed in and I went to leave and it Was very misty and I don't like to I had just been hours making the car perfect And I was like, oh, I could drive whatever but I noticed that the Audi a2 was looking lonely in the yeah So I Like you know what it needs to be driven because you're not really driving it And neither is anybody no not really I filmed one video with it and I haven't touched it since then But so all those who believe that it's my car, right? So I went it's it's the company's car so I went and drove it with those embarrassing place that you you're welcome and It's a perfectly acceptable boring car. I really love the shifter that clutch is not very good It's well made it's well thought out and I thought it was actually kind of enjoyable it was fun driving a little car for the first time in a long time and It's very odd. It's it has some odd things when you downshift It won't let you do full throttle to like blip it like limits how much you can do you can only do like a third throttle It's like doesn't watch me crazy People gets that's crazy. Maybe it's just that slow to rev. No. Well that too But I actually really enjoyed driving it and it is nobody notices it. No. Yeah for sure Everyone enjoys driving it the first time. Yeah, maybe if it's misty again, I'll drive it a second time Not not worth it. No, but I enjoyed it needs windshield wipers and alignment, but outside of that It's it drives much nicer than the multiply However, the multiple is weird enough that it at least evokes like joy and well I am surprised by people versus the a2 is just like forgettable I am curious about that because it sounds like you're kind of implying that I mean I'm daily driving it So unlike it like and I have had some people like actually stop like in traffic in a turn lane You like oh my gosh, I've been wanting to see that so like it it's fun to daily it for that perspective, but like The Bentley is like if I'm taking my kids somewhere like that has 600 foot pound of torque and is like actually fun to drive The multiple is like it's a hundred horsepower diesel like it's not latest on the Bentley Nick. Is it running? It's on its third mechanic in three months. They texted today. It's been their week saying They're gonna start work on it today This is why I never want to own an or not it's gonna be sold as soon as I can get it fixed which may never happen What if you might just be stuck with this it is as bad as everyone warned me? Well, you bought a bad one also I understand I knew a nicer one would maybe eventually and you worked out with the battery plugged in well you admit now That may be going the dug roots sometimes and buying a nicer one So you don't have to do all this BS Maybe is a good idea, but this one was purple Yes, there's no we know purple no reserve. It was a deal It was a deal because it was trash and it hasn't run right since you bought it a year ago It ran well for a couple months until Sean borrowed it dude. You're gonna get destroyed. I'm gonna get destroyed I thankfully walked away with the mercy with a little spending change in my pocket It's I think it will cancel out the arnaz if you had just spent up the cool amount You spent on a nice arnaz you wouldn't I agree, but then what what what what would you know? What would be the fun and not the functional car? I could go buy a denali and whoop the do I agree with you that it's more enjoyable for the content to have a car that has some foibles But your arnaz has not been running right in a year I I've driven it like twice in the last two months and both times are two or from a mechanic So yeah, it's a little tiresome. Okay, we got to move on to the market report Which we don't have much time for because the questions this week are very good Uh, let's talk market report and specifically Nick start us off with the r63 since I got the slr all of two weeks ago I've been obsessed with the idea of getting an r63 What I have found is why because you want like to be a Mercedes The ultimate two car combo. I okay ideally like silver But what I found is there were not many r63s to begin with so often there's none for sale or there's like a one for sale Most of them are mild up meaning well over 100,000 miles A lot of them are modified because like it was mostly owned by enthusiasts at this point A lot of them are wrecked as well because they were not preserved you drove them So usually it's six thousand a hundred thousand miles plus an accident on the car fax Some mods that are questionable. This has none of that. It's what 60 some thousand miles It is no accidents. They did the head bolts. It is beautiful. Yes. So like this is a I won't say once on a lifetime opportunity But it's one where find me another one find me another one this nice this so I want to buy one But it's also this is like the opposite of my Bentley. It's too nice for me The slr owner to afford us this though. Oh and it's got three rows. I mean this this solves every problem I have in life And well then are you gonna bet? I I'm just gonna comment and pull a filipo here really because this is it's a That's a I should bet on it. Well, why not nick? You're about to sell the Bentley in theory. Yeah, I mean I really need to sell the Bentley first. Yeah, but these never come up like you said So I looked it up. They sold 113 in north america and they only And and two other good things about it. Yeah, they only made about 200 globally. So it's super rare and it was built in alabama So pop-up would be happy pop-up would be very proud The important part too is I forgot there was an important part You're not interested in this I'm no I'm very interested in it I think it will set a new high watermark for the r63 because it is So clean compared to a lot of the other ones that I wish and have the original wheels These are gl 63 wheels would probably fit the r63 a little better. However, I really love I Finding a set of these is like, I mean, there's only 200 of these cars. So it's basically right But also, I mean this one we sold last year nick and this was 35 and had 140,000. So like you're right They often get mild up the one that I did a video on which was years ago It was this like ukrainian dude and philly and it had a rebuilt title and a ton of miles But it was like an r63. It was what I was what I could find It also feels like this is the ultimate multiply Like it's kind of the same shape and ugliness as a multiply but with the 6.2 liter v8, you know, like how awesome I agree. I will tell you having driven one one of the few people in the world who has yeah, it's not a dynamic masterpiece It's just a minivan with a big engine. That's probably why people mod them is just to try to make it a little bit more Engaging like an rs6 where it's I do think it's cool as hell. Well, it's so cool I've only ever seen two my entire life It seems like a lot of them that I've seen across the web sell plus or minus 40 which is still a lot I mean, it's it's a lot for this era 6.2. A lot of the an e-class an e 63 sedan is like a 15 car And in r3 20 or whatever is like a $5,000 car. Yeah, yeah, but I think this one will do much better than that just given how well kept it was And people that aren't as stupid as me buying a a beat up Bentley that that will pay an extra for that On the subject of Mercedes Benz. I want you to bet on this car. Legit I think you really should this will hold its value like crazy. The headbolts are done You're gonna regret not buying this car if you don't buy it. I am gonna regret Another one will not come up for over a year. Think about how cool we can look at car week rolling deep in this thing It's so Mercedes themselves brought one to car week last year. Remember it was a right So of those 200 Mercedes corporate of America owns at least one of them And and it's 200 globally. It's only 113 for north america. Yeah And some of them are probably leaves 112 for the rest of us. Uh, and and apparently seven of those were in canada and Alabama built non-union. Yeah Okay, uh, I want to talk e 55 real quick. We just sold A really nice you can just type if we just sold a really nice this one a 2001 e 55 01 is a facelift car Scroll down. It was like 60,000 miles 70,000 miles very low for this powertrain. That's like barely getting broken in it was So facelift cars were 01 or two only 17 grand this car is still a bargain. I think I owned one of these It is the car that I most think about that I sold it is not my yellow defender, which was so Associated with me. It is this car. I loved my 2055 Especially one that hasn't been miled up which is getting harder hard to find and especially not a pre facelift car Which just wasn't as nice inside or out. This is a really nice car really good miles and it's only 17 grand It's fun to drive. It's reliable. It's fast. It's better than an e 39 m 5 There's a lot of great things about every magazine test from the period disagrees with that end. So do I But it is for 17 though. But for that's the thing e 39 m 5 values have gone What would a 72,000 mile nice e 39 m 5 so 35 probably more than that maybe for for an 01 It's but yeah, I mean I agree I think the t10 is one of the most compelling cars Mercedes Benz made I think they are dramatically undervalued and they shouldn't be and They're getting harder to find in nice shape. They're really come up like I bought basically this exact same car in Atlanta 12 years ago for 12 grand they've come up Barely but not much Conflation is yeah pace with that. So look at the interior too. These interiors hold up like shockingly well I don't necessarily know that they hold up in terms of design and style But the materials are high quality. They're really nice and they generally don't get a lot of the cracks and stuff that you see in the 124s and even though some of the later cars. I love this thing. This one's worn but not crazy. No, but I I just looks the side profile look at those. Yeah, the wheels are great I truly this car drives great too. It is a great powertrain that just feels smooth Smooth and powerful at all parts of the rev range. There's no waiting for a turbo to spool There's no peaky BS like in certain other brands cars from this era I love these cars. My grandfather had a 210 220 Yes, gd. We called him for grand bad gd He he had an e4 20 for the longest time and I always looked at the 55 and it's like, oh man I wish you got the 55 but I love I love the 210. They're so solidly made and I just adore those cars I think it's incredibly cool. I can't believe they're still only this much money I thought they were going to take off and that that was going to be that and they never the transmission is not inspiring I think that it's not but but I would daily the hell out of this car Like it's not a car I would take on back roads or but if you're looking for like a fun daily It is reliable. It is holding its value. It holds up. Well, it's not that expensive to own Compared to a lot of other AMG cars. It is a very reasonable car for this money I think it's if you got 20 grand and you wanted a fun daily Buy that or a zero six Kenan, you got to give us your uh market report 512 tr. Yes, we have a very cool 512 test road So I always always love the 512 tr. I think the the improvements they did to this car Dramatically changed the the test there's a platform They got real they like lowered the engine because they got rid of the subframe that sits and so it handled much better They've added magnesium wheels much better suspension geometry devices styling a little bit much better car than Looks better. It's better. It just is better But the interesting thing about this one is that it is a euro and it has miles on it quite a few miles 120,000 kilometers. Good. I'm good for the guy who drove this thing Which is nuts on one of these cars because think about how many times the engine has been in and out and in that engine paper Quite a lot this car despite the plates which are from vienna on austria. It's it is in the us. It is on a us title yeah, yeah, it's in uh washington, I believe and um washington state What a crazy thing what a crazy no comps. No, uh, chris harris's 512 tr has a ton of miles on it too. I think That's pop like 150,000 kilometers or something. Wow And he and he drives it a lot that great view of him sliding around the south of fans like Um, but I think this is such a compelling such a compelling kind of really curious where it ends up because 512 trs are Really valuable cars in the in the 300s regularly But almost all of them have very no miles in our us cars So i'm very curious to see where this one ends up. It's really appealing to someone who likes to drive cars like me Uh, I agree. I am very curious to see also. It's at 105. It just it just goes listed Yep, I love high much for ours. My 355 had a lot of miles on it too. So Um, I'm very curious to see where it ends up. God, it looks good. Those sides. It does look good Uh onto the questions questions questions questions the questions are this week are sponsored by piloti Now they're not actually but you know what? God love them for sponsors God love so in addition to sponsoring the talk car segment, we're going to give them a little bonus They're sponsoring the question segment too size 11. Grazie mille size 11 Gotta eat, you know What would you do with yours at wyrum? What would you do with the existing ones that were chewed by the dog? Um, well, I'd just get a different color. Okay. Um So You already have the brown this would just be supplemental really. Yeah, okay. Some people have more than one pair of shoes Yeah, true. Okay. Uh, this is there's great questions this week And we don't have as much time for it as I wish we did first question from ford prefect question for kenan Kenan as much as you like the n a miata. Why not just go ahead and get one the purchase price is low It isn't going to lose value. It'll keep miles off the m5. You'll have a great time driving it It's cheap to own and emily is sure to love it All very good points. I think the the reason I the reason is that it is I like cars with very big engines It's a kind of type of car that I like My m5 is a large engine other cars. I'm looking at every large engines the dodge viper has a large I just I like lots of torque and power and emily that's the complete opposite and of the specter of what an n a is I the other thing is that like I can kind of own an n a whenever they'll always be around And I I want something that's a little bit more esoteric and in Admitted to me like something that I I just like lust after a little bit more. I love the miata I suspect I will own one and maybe an s 2002 at some point for now. I'm kind of focused on I just want something crazy. That's all reasonable. That is a reasonable response. Nick. Why don't you have an n a miata? I don't know for him There's a roof for an enemy. I'll tell you I've got like six cars right now I'm that's how you know you have a problem if you don't if you don't even have room for an n a yeah, right? There's issues right that yeah, I would like to at least experience something out of more And I think if I ever started tracking more that would be my easy first choice. Yeah, just like a good track toy but well, I mean, you know, those The the the person asking the question is correct that you do want to buy that now Like when you do have kids and dogs and stuff like that suddenly becomes a lot more limiting versus You're just a single dude and you're driving an a2 because it's missing out a miata might be a decent choice Of course this he says this yeah, since he's had kids the a and a mercy a lago and an slr Right. He has way less cars before yeah, I don't know what he's talking about. I will say he's talking about getting a track car Remember this dude money shifted and dropped a motor and he's over here with a track car be careful I wouldn't you money ship the miata. It's like a 300 repair Take out those engines at pep boys, you know Uh next question from charlie xc90 question for everyone You are all relatively similar ages and I notice you tend to think the peak air from the car was the 90s And into the 2000s through them being the perfect balance of modern analog Do you think you would retain this opinion if you've been born earlier later? Yes, that is objective truth I understand where they're coming from But I having thought I'm lucky enough to have experienced cars from the 60s and 70s and earlier And there it is a it is a really finite period of time where they became really It was the perfect cross-section of everything and I do it reliable and yet not hybridized Not too big. Oh, you're arguing that you would still be interested in the 2000s airsoft Absolutely, I think objectively looking at the entire history of the automobile I think it was a really golden time that people don't appreciate enough I think the 60s were also the 60s were also because of regulation for design and they were design is unbelievable But you you can't argue that cars in the 1960s weren't exactly what you call reliable compared to modern cars later And that's the benefit that the mid 2000s cars have and and the reason that we don't like newer Which I think is really the implication of the question. What if you were younger? Would you be like into the 2010s? Probably you don't know any better That's what youth is however The best cars came out of the mid 2000s. I think I agree with you all in the premise that those were the best cars to me too We're out the same objective. No Again, papa rest in peace He was in the 30s town cars and such because that was like of the Era my dad and his generation is super into muscle cars in the 60s I do think that there is like a outlier decade that it's it's usually when you were in high school It was those cars plus or minus so like those and I do think like okay that will happen again But like I think it is a function of when when and where you were born I see that's what we're arguing is that it actually it isn't in this case like I know I'm I'm counter arguing I I I understand and I and I get that argument and I think it's totally reasonable. Yeah, I think it's wrong I think that I just think that the mid 2000s had this had this thing that nothing else in the time the history of the car Had previously ever had in the 60s. They would have thought they had it too Well, yeah, because it was as reliable and as fast as cars become but we now have the benefit of hindsight We know what happened after that Which is it's the 60s you look at the 60s and you'd say these were the best cars the 70s cars were terrible Even most of the 80s were pretty bad and so you'd say the 60s were this amazing time, but We've now we're now 20 years removed from this mid 2000s period And I wouldn't say that the things that make us love the mid 2000s cars have gotten better in terms of cars The analog has been lost the screens have taken over the electronics have taken over automatics have taken over hybrids have taken over and to me that Kind of goes back to suggest that this mid 2000s was sort of the 60s on steroids It was like all those 60s cars that were amazing, but now modern and great, you know really I was driving an e28 on five recently in a video coming out about that shortly I'll talk about it more later on but I was there was a period of time where like you got to the 60s And then the 70s cars got bad it was like the if you look at it as like a curve, right? And then you went out every and then from there every successive car got better and better and better The next one was going to be better than the one that came before it But that really did hit a plateau and and that's kind of where I think we are now our opinion now he's going to argue That well if you're a teenager now you think the revuelto is the coolest thing ever made And it is cool every generation has that pin-up Lamborghini You could that is true But I think for someone that actually go and drive and use these cars I think you'd be more blown away by the experience of some of the old I do think from a driver's perspective It's hard to ignore that The cars more recently have become more sanitized more plug-in hybrid More automatic and the mid 2000s cars gave you a similar uh like fast With but still had all those benefits and I think that's where they where they really hit two things here one We need to start our own event that's like radwood, but only for 2000 to 2009 Give or take that would be awesome. They cut off their era at 99 Which is like right when things started to get good But I think that's part of the point of rad like like the point of rad would you got an sf 90 We are sending you away. We're dot-com would but yeah If you are around from the dot-com bubble to Lehman brothers going away, you are welcomed I think the point of radwood in part though is to celebrate kind of the two unloved decades I agree, but i'm just saying if there was a show that was only like 2000 to 2009 It's it would it go for rich. I would I would travel great distances. It wouldn't be cool enough yet There's too many of those cars still like around us traffic. We need another 10 years They also bend it a little bit like the 39 came out in the late 90s and so they include those usually Lehman brothers going away ruin the party all the collateral debt obligations and so on the Had that does not happen right because that was when the mercy sv came out This slr 722 and other icons of that era. Yep the s lr 722 think of it every day exactly So had that not happened in an alternate universe and we would have just kept iterating from there Maybe the ceo killed maybe there was always going to be an environmental component and honestly I think automatic transmissions were always going to start showing up because Yeah, the cars had gotten so fast. Yeah, you know what you kind of regret in hindsight too is that the single clutch like E gear style cars didn't extend longer because those are swappable and how do we just stick stuck the e gear Complain so much. We could have manual event doors. Well, I want manual Well, the event area is a single plate. Let's end on it. Oh, yeah, you can let's end on this The event door is theoretically swappable. It is I don't know why that doesn't exist yet. Would be cause there's way more of those than there are of mercy diablo and kut dash combined I'll tell you why though. It's because there's no center console Right, but we can fabricate one of them. We could fabricate one of them. We can make it You can put it like the cgt and just replace the uh the outie mmi screen I'm telling you I realized that I don't need that anymore I realized that the the event of our production was greater than all of the v12's combined that came before it But I do think there is something very special about that car if you could convert that that would be one of the coolest cars on the That's the corollary to my range Rover full-size. Everyone also wants an event to door deep down They don't admit it, but they want one. I Look at that. Look at that picture. It looks cool, but I'd rather have a kut dash, but of course, but Okla legit This car is swappable. Yeah, and someone someday is gonna do it. I'm not gonna get on it. I'm a buyer Yeah, because that talked mid 2000s. I mean this was actually the last I wonder what the holdup is if it's also like in a tcu I think it's entirely the center software and the center console I don't think the software has that much to do with it your car is like Actually just of all of your experience swapping cars because because in what I learned from your auction is It's just a manual transmission that they automate. Right. That's the same thing. It's different Well, yes, but there was a manual that pre existed in his car and like the software for the computer can recognize that Well, yeah, but you get in there with a couple of bpb Yeah, just like how you thought you would program the site yourself back in the early day You saw camisa this weekend on on instagram with his radio shack voltmeter He gets in there with he gets in there with his radio shack voltmeter. He pro he reprograms an event A couple of beep-bop boops and then he's there I legitimately think that that an even harder component of this is the center console situation more than the transmission I bet they'd figure it out and metals. No, someone figured out and that'll be amazing. Yeah, okay We have to end here uh because kenan has to take off his racing suit. Yeah, I'm I'm stunned that I It's cold you look good in it though. I must say thanks the colors are great. Absolutely pleasure. Thank you so much nick Thank you for coming. Thank you for gracing us with an slr I I feel good about that. I am very sad. I can't believe that the Mercy olago getting picked up was five minutes before we started filming like it It started me a little sad what an end, you know, but it was it's an end of a really great hour with the mercy I'm gonna miss that but meanwhile ken is taking off the jacket. He just he just did It's flame retardant. It's hot. He just did the kazakhstan gp and he needs to is that one of them No, but uh the phoenix ground preeps and it did drive at the phoenix ground preester. So Arizona. Yes. Yeah, wow That's a real thing. That's a really that's where the crurge ets v10 went wasn't it? Yep. The footwork v10. That's okay. We're done here. Goodbye, bro Bye