The Shotgun Start

Fitz clips Sheriff Scottie as fans chant USA, Bryson WDs, Rahm wins, and the LIV sinking ship

55 min
Apr 20, 20261 day ago
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Summary

The hosts discuss Matt Fitzpatrick's RBC Heritage victory over Scottie Scheffler at Harbour Town amid hostile crowd chants, analyze LIV Golf's funding crisis and potential collapse after Scott O'Neill's slip-up about season-only funding, and cover tournament results from the PGA Senior Championship and other events while recording from Scotland.

Insights
  • LIV Golf's $5 billion investment has failed to gain traction with ratings consistently below 100k viewers, suggesting fundamental structural problems beyond just execution
  • Single-leader governance models (like MBS controlling LIV) create existential risk when priorities shift, unlike diversified organizational structures that provide stability
  • Fitzpatrick's success under Mark Blackburn demonstrates the importance of coach-player personality fit; analytical players benefit from data-driven coaching approaches
  • Harbour Town's tree-lined, prescriptive design favors players who excel at shot-shaping and control, creating predictable winners rather than testing adaptability
  • Media coverage inconsistencies (CBS vs Sky broadcasts) and social media management failures at LIV suggest operational immaturity despite increased professionalization
Trends
LIV Golf transitioning from growth narrative to survival mode with funding uncertainty extending only through current seasonIncreased scrutiny of player conduct and hypocrisy (Max Homa club-throwing after criticizing club-breaking) as social media amplifies contradictionsBroadcaster role conflict emerging as personalities like Kevin Kisner balance podcast candor with corporate broadcast obligationsPGA Tour players gaining leverage through alternative league existence despite LIV's operational failures and reputational damageGenerational shift in golf media consumption with younger audiences using non-traditional streaming sources rather than cable broadcastsCourse design philosophy debate: prescriptive tree-lined layouts vs. open courses testing adaptability and shot-making under pressureAthlete social media management becoming liability when unvetted content (deleted/reposted interviews) signals internal dysfunction
Topics
LIV Golf funding crisis and business viabilityMatt Fitzpatrick's coaching relationship with Mark BlackburnHarbour Town Golf Club course design and player suitabilityScottie Scheffler's closing performance and consistency questionsBroadcaster ethics and multi-platform role conflictsPGA Tour vs LIV competitive dynamicsGolf media coverage quality and consistencyPlayer conduct and social media accountabilityCrowd behavior at professional golf eventsSenior PGA Championship resultsLPGA tournament coverageGolf equipment fitting and technologyInternational golf tournament logisticsSports league financial sustainabilityGolf course altitude and difficulty adjustment
Companies
LIV Golf
Primary focus: $5 billion-funded league facing existential funding crisis, poor viewership, and operational dysfunction
PGA Tour
Discussed as alternative to LIV with structural protections against single-leader decision-making and organizational ...
CBS Sports
Broadcast partner for RBC Heritage; criticized for incomplete coverage and commentary quality compared to Sky Sports
Sky Sports
European broadcaster of RBC Heritage with questionable golf analysis and course knowledge during final rounds
PGA of America
Organizer of Senior PGA Championship at Concession Club with Scottie Scheffler as defending champion
Augusta National Golf Club
Masters host course; referenced for wind conditions and course difficulty comparisons to Harbour Town
Harbour Town Golf Club
RBC Heritage venue; analyzed for tree-lined prescriptive design favoring specific player types like Fitzpatrick
Northwestern University
Matt Fitzpatrick's alma mater; mentioned regarding crowd hostility despite his educational connection to USA
People
Matt Fitzpatrick
Won RBC Heritage at Harbour Town in playoff over Scottie Scheffler; discussed as top-4 player globally
Scottie Scheffler
Lost RBC Heritage playoff to Fitzpatrick; analyzed for closing performance issues and swing concerns
Mark Blackburn
Fitzpatrick's coach credited with analytical, data-driven approach matching player's personality and improving perfor...
Scott O'Neill
Made slip-up revealing LIV funded only through current season; deleted and reposted interview without controversial p...
Kevin Kisner
Criticized CBS broadcast on Foreplay podcast; apologized for crossing line as lead broadcaster for competing rights h...
Bryson DeChambeau
Withdrew from LIV Mexico City citing dead grass; represents key asset LIV cannot afford to lose
Kevin VanValkenberg
Co-host recording from Scotland; contributing analysis on golf tournaments and LIV Golf situation
Andy
Co-host recording from Scotland; primary voice discussing tournaments and industry analysis
Brendan
Co-host recording from Scotland; contributing analysis and commentary on golf events
John Rahm
Won LIV Mexico City event; represents LIV's limited competitive depth and field quality concerns
Max Homa
Criticized for throwing club after pre-tournament comments about club-breaking being spoiled behavior
Jordan Spieth
Subject of excessive PGA Tour social media coverage despite middling performance; criticized as 'Speed Town USA'
Rory McIlroy
Mentioned as top-4 player in world alongside Scheffler, Cam Young, and Fitzpatrick
Cam Young
Mentioned as top-4 player in world alongside Scheffler, Rory McIlroy, and Fitzpatrick
Thomas Freeman
Provided analysis on Saudi Arabia's actual golf development goals versus LIV's stated mission
Jim Nance
CBS commentator criticized for jingoistic commentary during RBC Heritage broadcast
Lexi Thompson
Qualifying for US Women's Open to extend consecutive appearance streak to 20 years
Ben Crane
Finished solo second at Senior PGA Championship; hosts discussing potential future success
Quotes
"This is like talking about who's winning the Domino's game on the Titanic as it's going down."
BrendanLIV Mexico City discussion
"The reality is you're funded through the season and then you work like crazy as a business to create a business plan to keep us going."
Scott O'NeillLIV funding revelation
"One of the 12 best Americans in the world might have to be the captain again."
HostRyder Cup discussion
"You're always at the whim of whenever the despot decides to just pay attention to be like, what, we're spending five billion where?"
Kevin VanValkenbergLIV governance analysis
"It would have been good for golf if this had worked, but it just hasn't."
BrendanLIV Golf conclusion
Full Transcript
Now the shotgun starting golf is full of mathematics. There's a lot of setup work that we have to do in order to make a tournament work. So I'm going to demonstrate to you just exactly how we do a shotgun start here. And here we go. Alright, alright, alright. Gentlemen! Start your engine! Greetings and welcome to a Monday edition of the Shotgun Start. It is April 20th. Andy, how are we doing? Brendan! It's Victory Monday. I got to say, it is a little weird though hearing you murmur through the walls. I just heard Brendan. Recording in the same house, but on different computers. You know, this is a big ship, very late at night. Scotland recording here. A little worse for the wear, not from alcohol, but lack of sleep the last few weeks for me. We have been grinding to make the content machines run up early. You were drone boy at 6am this morning in Scotland. So here we are at 11.30. We're joined by Kevin VanValkenberg who's in another room in the same house that probably dates back 200 years in Scotland. Kevin, thanks for joining us, KVB. Thank you. I got the big room. You guys got the wee rooms. I'm still a little bit, I don't know, it's unfair to give the new guy the big room, but too late now. You're good. You're fine. They're all big rooms. It's nice accommodations, I would say. Much better than we used to have. We're an equal opportunity employer. That's true. We aren't afraid to. PJ and Joseph, the boys always have to bunk up, but you know. PJ jumped in. Thanks for taking over Friday. We're going four wide here at the moment. We're totally detached. I left for Augusta, April 5th. I feel totally detached from the world. There's like things going on with Iran. I don't really know what. I don't know what's going on with the sports world, the NBA, NHL playoffs. There's just an update to a certain division rival in football that may be helping an unnamed reporter that you seem to be delighted about. That seems to be music to your ears. We're just discussing offline. Are the Mets, how are they doing these days? I've been disconnected. The Mets have lost 11 straight games, Brendan. I've got to be honest with you. The Mets season is over. Done. Consul. We're good. We're done already. I saw that they're blaming the mayor for hugging Mr. and Mrs. Matt. That was have not one since then. Was it an inappropriate hug? What's going on here? Is this inappropriate? I wouldn't say it was inappropriate. It's just, you know, looking for looking for anybody to blame these. They're just trying to share the winds around the league. That's good. Socialists would do. Oh, there we go. We're going to go with that. I in there, Kevin. You didn't get my gambling pick in for all everybody on this gambling pod. You didn't you didn't set we asked you and you didn't send it. Ten PM. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. We need you. Like three hours. Yeah. If you plenty of time. No. The record will be clear. You gave it a thumbs up. An instant. On the track. That we asked for. Yeah. I saw it. You're just. I took. Back. Back. back wins for me. That's victory Monday. You're taking Fitsie. It's stinky. Violations. Fitsie tried to share the win. Everybody might have won and done legal though. Back to back wins. Fitsie tried to share the win with the cack-handed chip that just went about halfway there at 18. Andy, it's just, I don't know if you had a rooting interest coming down the stretch. I think you weren't rooting for extra holes based on the time of evening here in Scotland. And to watch that chip and watch just the life be drained out of you as you slumped into the couch was some of the better content, better than watching the golf tournament. When you've been up before sunrise for roughly two straight weeks and, you know, five hours apart, all you're all you're rooting for is the chance to go to bed. But hey, it's the greatest job in the world. No one's complaining about the Augusta to St. Andrews double. Nobody's complaining. Just saying. I can keep sleeping. We're looking for that playoff. Victory Monday for your, I guess, maybe submitted one and done pick. Fitsie gets it done. He's won four times on the PGA Tour, obviously won on the European Tour, in addition to that, he's won two of his four events on the Tour. And his beloved Harbertown, though, as Jim Nance, term Jim Nance throughout there on CBS, Barry might not like this. Jingoistic was thrown out there because that's supposed to be... Jingoistic, very wise. He's going to audit Jim Nance. I slipped it in. I'm just saying it was not a friendly crowd for Fitsie, but he gets it done with a amazing four-hour into a very tough 18-hole and makes the birdie putt. Does the, you know, I can't hear you now, hand to the ear move. So congrats to Fitsie. Worst shot. His crosshanded chip that left him 23 feet, I believe, short of the pin, or Scotty's approach shot that I want to say was what, like a six-iron, maybe that was 37 yards short of the hole, which was the worst shot. And one was in regulation, one was in the playoff. Andy. I got to go with the chip. The chip was bad. I don't know. It was a high degree of difficulty for bull shots. Having to back up, go behind the sheriff. I did love that we had two of our premier law enforcement officers out there battling this week. Tree line golf course, perfect definition, prescribes where to hit the ball. Makes you hit different shots, but it does prescribe hit it here or else. And we had two of our fair police out there, the UK's Matt Fitzpatrick, the constable, and the sheriff Scotty. I would say the thing, that wind, the wind in off the left, very tough shot for a fader of the golf ball like Scotty. And we saw him in regulation, missed the green right. And then it seemed like he was really trying to kind of like hold one up there on the second shot in the playoff and just kind of chunked it. I would say that that chip was pretty bad. That was that was that was a bad shot. You know, it's funny. Our we're we're we're traveling with some generation Z's who don't pay for cable TV. And one of them, Matt, young Matt was like, you know, I can get you the CBS broadcast. You just put you're putting him out like, come on, you're just putting that arrest into the crime. Already you're putting him out there. I don't think anybody's getting arrested for this. I'm joking. But anyway, he on some shady streaming site, got us the CBS broadcast, which cut out right when they're coming down 18. So we went back to radar in the sky team, which I got to say some of the commentary. I just say questionable, questionable ball knowledge on the on the sky broadcast. But but the you know, I don't know. They did not they just sugarcoated the fifth thing. Nobody talked about how bad it was. The chip was gross. It was disgusting. I mean, even like hitting it to 10 feet would have been like mediocre. That was a disaster. That looked like me out there, a panoram. Just trying to run one of the whole that goes halfway. It was it was awful playing good golf this trip. OK, OK, go play. Yeah, we're not talking about Scala. We're not going to talk about his five birdies. Well, it was just a reference for how bad it was. But still, it gets it done. I think the four are more than made up for it. Talk about a shot with the wind. And that was like the Hideki straight ball kind of, you know, a little little movement to it, but drops right on the flag. And then go ahead. I was so confused with the bright. This is a broadcast that most people didn't listen to. The sky broadcast was like, oh, Scott, he's on this launching pad. He's got this great lie on an upslope. And it's like who in their right mind was hit an iron shot off an upslope into wind off your left? No, no, thank you. Like I don't want that. And then, you know, they're talking about Fitsie on the downslope. And it's like, oh, well, that's going to help keep the ball down into the wind. And he hit that shot was awesome. Bullets. He was just a low tight draw four iron into the wind off the left, like as good as it gets there. That as it's not going to go down because the tour, when they do their top 10 shots of the year, will do those stupid catnip, you know, whole ones on Thursday that don't mean anything. But that that is one of the best shots that's been hit all year. I agree. A mid iron, a real mid iron or a lot iron that you have to hit into hit into a par four. If you'd like to continue to drag this guy broadcast, but I will say that during my research in my Shelf Per Story, I did come across something where radar was like his swing might never be the same. He's just it might just not work anymore. And it clearly like there was not a lot of that discussion during the down the stretch today when Scotty was shooting 67 for the third. Well, yesterday he went nuts. He started the day seven behind Fizzi and then was ahead of him. But when he closed up, now he was our, you know, well ahead of him on the Saturday tee sheet. Does Scotty have a closing problem? This is two seconds in a row. Any questions about like he hit it so good, he missed last week, I should say on the weekend. He missed like every green regulation coming on this Sunday. That became a big talking point on CBS too. Like just missing, missing, missing a lot of par. Like it felt like Fizzi had left it open for him. And he was just par on the thing to death essentially through the first five, six holes on the five holes on the back nine. But I don't know, it's kind of like Scotty's B, like obviously Saturday was A plus, but Scotty's B plus game today. And he's still in a playoff. It wasn't like his best stuff for sure. Far from it. I do think the golf court, it was playing really hard. And you know, I think like, yeah, it was sheltered in the trees. And you saw how strong the wind was when they got out on the, what is it, the Calabogi? Calabogi sound. The Calabogi sound. You told a great story about the Calabogi sound. What's your experience with that, Brendan? I mean, just I, three dads spent a fortune to take their kids out on jet skis. And we all came in and all the kids were in tears, like crying their faces off. Because it was a choppy, I thought I might die. It was choppy as cold as water ever. And that's, it was great. Oh, a hundred bucks an hour and everybody's in tears. Great. That's my Calabogi sound story. Okay, go ahead. But, but you know, it's really windy there. On those holes that were more sheltered, the wind had to be super hard to gauge. And I saw a lot of guys were having problems with distance control. And it's like, yeah, the wind was probably bouncing around and you just couldn't get a good read on it. So I do think it was not like, I think, yeah, like these guys maybe didn't have their best stuff, but I also think that it was harder than, than the TV showed, right? Because like when you're on TV, you don't just, you don't feel the wind and what it's doing like you do on the ground. This is what always like an annual takeaway for me at the Masters. This year wasn't very breezy at the Masters, but like, No. When it's windy out there, it's just a nightmare and inherited RBC. And Harbor Town has like some similar qualities. Those trees are so big. It's, it's got to be really tough when it gets like that, hitting shots in the trees. And ducking it out of the trees. Yeah, should, you know, should this event exist? We've had a great length discussion. Where are you with the, well, A, so I want to, I just want to clarify your theory. Two fair police, a constable and a sheriff walk into a place that is essentially tree lined. What you're saying is it tells you, if you hit it there and you receive a fair outcome, I hit it to my spot and then I hit it to my next spot. And it's not rolling away from me into something unknown. That's why you're suggesting that they, they, they succeeded well. I mean, they're great. I'm not saying that that's why, but yeah, Maddie fits. You have to hit a lot of shapes at Harbor town and there's a lot of cool holes and, but it is very prescriptive. And what I mean by that is it, it is like hit this shot and hit it to this side of the fairway. And it's a good test of golf because it makes you do more things than a lot of places. It's unique, but it is very much like go control your ball. And there's a, let me be clear. There's nothing wrong with it. It's just very unsurprising that these two have become like horses for courses at, at Harbor town. Tube guys that love fair golf and golf where it's like, this is what you need to do and I can go out execute you. You also have to deal with not only the wind, but you have to deal with temperamental tikes. There was a child that was trying to jam Scotty on the 14th to kept yelling when he was had a chip there on the 14th green, I should say had a chip there. And, and Maddie Fitz had to deal with the hostile crowd. This is like his favorite place in the world where he's vacationed for so long. He's got the head cover and all that thing. Like, can we just like, he should be playing the home game. Can we just stop with like the weird US. Why does it always happen to him? It just happened to him at the players too. It did happen to him at the players. Did it happen to him at Valspar, right? Two pieces you're jumping in. Oh, no, I was just going to mention on the topic of home game. You know, this was a topic on Twitter. I'm I assume you guys were offline for most of the week. Do you think that Matthew Fitzpatrick had an unfair advantage having haven't gone to Hilton had his entire life? Great question, Peter. We should ask Wendy and Sass, Steven A. first. Why don't we consult with them? Yeah, no, I think just we could stop that. I get, I get like probably the crowd wanted to see the number one player in the world, maybe the best player regeneration win. I could kind of want to see that outcome or see a playoff just because it's more exciting. But like that got a little weird, little too one sided. Kev, are we done? Can we be done with the USA chance whenever there's like a non USA player in? I don't think so. But maybe in South Carolina, it's just going to play well there. I don't know. It's it's weird. It was an odd, it was a very odd development late. Do they know that do they know that Matt's like the Northwestern guy? I mean, come on. Maybe they're just cheering against the Midwest. They're loves his loves his Calabogi sound activity. How about how about the year fits? Is I mean, I the basically we're getting to the point of the calendar year of fits because he really turned around at this time, the PGA. Yes. The guy has been and I feel like we keep saying this about players, but he's been without a doubt one of the five best players in the world over the last calendar year. I'm sure there's some statistic out there that is going to get engagement farmed to death. I have one. And it's weak. But I like his like almost a almost a full stroke, like better than it was before. It's just shocking. Blackburn best coach in the world. Yeah. That's a good point. Bring up Blackburn. He's I just knew. I do think it is. I'm a big believer in like you have to get people around you that make sense for your personality. From what I've heard about Mark Blackburn's teaching is it's like if you like if you're like a field player who kind of just is like I hit the ball, it's like the worst the worst situation you could walk into. But for someone like Matt Fitzpatrick, who literally charts every shot he's ever hit, it's like a dream come match because Blackburn will go so nitty gritty and analytical about what's wrong with your swing or what you're working on. And this is the perfect student to accept all that like all that information and process it. And so I do think like he has found a great coach for him. And like you know, Joseph, we talked about this after he won the US Open and it was kind of surprising that he struggled a little bit after that win because we everybody was like, you know, this is the start of new normal. But I think we were there now. He's really, really, really good. And I know that's not breaking news, but he's one of the five best players in the world right now. He's gonna be a top player. I mean, I think it's gonna be Scotty, Rory, Cam Young and Fitz as the probably the top four players in the world as of like today. That's a good four. That's a good quartet, I think. And obviously he would be. I think he's probably gonna be fourth. He's seventh now. He's seventh now. And he's won the Primo signature event and he'll rock it up and will be probably like he's one of these players who's kind of he's never done very well at the Open. But other than that, his game is so good that it's really certainly on the PGA tour. He is like every single week. How can you not put him on your three to four favorite players for almost every venue? You know what's sad? What? Our pal knows for odd two. He's just the weekly nose fraud to update. Love that. Well, if he's found a good match in Mark Blackburn, we found a good match in our sunglass provider and that is Shady Raze, which we've had on the road with us now for two weeks. If you're serious about your golf game, your vision on the course matters. That's where Shady Raze Golf Collection comes in. These are built for the course. They're Color Rush, all caps. 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You're going to forget them. And then, you know, sure enough, we're like 20 minutes down the road and I'm like, forgot my glasses. I mean, I showed up to Scotland. You're like, do you have the podcast box that can work? I got to record with Trevor. You told me you left your blazer in Augusta. Then you're like, I lost your sunglasses because they weren't for me. Technically, like we've had the raw pairs from the Chris Cross or whatever. The patch. Does the Color Rush do anything for someone who's colorblind? Today, we were watching the RBC broadcast and you said that man's in a green shirt and it was the KVVs like, that's orange. What's going on? That's like he's colorblind. Maybe the Color Rush will fix. I don't know. Go to Shady Raze. I don't know if I'm colorblind or if I never learn colors. Like my daughter knows colors better than I do. I don't get it. And she's known better. What an incredible conspiracy theory that would be. And who the color is better than me. She'll be like, dad, I'll be like, this is blue. And she'll be like, no, that's not blue. Use the code Shotgun for 40% off two plus pairs of polarized sunglasses. They are rated five stars by over 300,000 people. Code is Shotgun. That's one word. 40% off two plus pairs. Go to ShadyRaze.com. All right. You know who could use an upgrade is Max Homa. Tough luck for Max Homa. He could use an upgrade. I know he's been on the Blackburn path. That didn't seem to work well. He seems to be working for the Blackburn path. I'm sorry, he went back to Blackburn. I apologize. He's back in the Blackburn path. Doing well. Doing much better than he did last year. But he had one of those kind of situations where you go out on a limb and then all of a sudden, someone looks in the closet and you're like, oh, he's critiquing him for the same thing he did five years ago, or this case did five days later. Before, in the pregame press conference, the pre-30 press conference in Hilton Head, he said, this is on Sergio. I don't like when people beat up the golf course because we deal with it. And I think breaking clubs makes us look very, very spoiled. And here he was a few days later, chucking a club down a waste area at the Harbor Town Golf Course. Tough work for Max Helmhams. Everybody pounced on it. Honestly, I think we sort of, Homa's every move is over-analyzed, like for better or worse. I just, I cut him some slack here, quite frankly. That'd be his defense eternity for a moment. Oh, okay. What he said was if we break clubs, we're spoiled. He didn't break this club. He just threw it. So I feel like exonerated completely. Didn't break it. That's what he's talking about. The letter of the law there. You are going right down the letter of law. Wow. He's a share for the console. Golf does the most ridiculous things to people. I don't, yeah, I kind of am not gonna jump on him for this one, quite frankly. It's just funny. It's actually just hilarious. It is funny. I'm not gonna deny it. It's funny. Not funny is... That's the thing everybody should be taking away from it. It's hilarious that he said this. And then golf got him to such a boiling point that he threw the club. Not funny is Tony Fiena's current form, the sponsor exemption, went 75, three straight days, 82, DFL, 82 by five... DFL by five shots. By five shots. That's not a good situation to be in a city of... Stop giving Tony such a hard time. He could be what Burns live around. Maybe he could still get that contract. So, you know, he was promised all those years ago. He came in last by five shots. That's not giving him a hard time. It's just reading the record. Like, get out of here, dude. He hasn't just had it out for Tony all year long. It's a lot of exception. Someone you have it out for, Jordan Spieth, just a guy, was the subject of lots of content at Arboretown for reasons that I don't know. I guess I have to do this golf theme. Speed Town USA. Speed Town USA. Just Potemkinville, if you ask me. Potemkinville, Speed Town, that is. There's not a lot going on behind the scenes in the facades. There was an article. I'm like in Scotland. And I'm kind of just like, just seeing things flash before my eyes. Trying. We got dialed in today. It locked in. And there's a Sports Illustrated article that said, Jordan Spieth just set this incredible record. You won't believe. And it was like, he played the first 36 holes without a bokeh, but he was like 15 shots up. There were like a bunch of double bokehs. Why are we writing this up? Why is this an article all of a sudden? Was it an article or was it a tweet? It was an article on the Sports Illustrated.com website that the headline that says, Jordan Spieth just set an incredible record. And I was like, oh, crazy. He must be going nuts. What's the record? Or he went really bad. Like one or the other. It's like, he just went 36 holes without a bokeh, but had like four or five doubles, I think. Like, God, can we just slow down on Speed Town USA? And then he had, they were another good one today, Andy, that I know you were a big fan of with Speed content. I, you know, I guess I just don't know why they're, given that his last four years, why are we just making like, we don't see dedicated social posts made by the PGA tour for the 50th ranked player in the world very often. But they just went around and asked fans why they like Jordan Spieth so much. So ridiculous. It's like, why don't you make something about our guy, Sudarshan Yellow Mirage, you being heartbroken because Sidney Sweeney's in her relationship, something like that. I still got time for Sudarshan. I'm just going to make my, like, Sudarshan, to make him a mission that sabotage that relationship. That little Packer scooter bra, and he's not going to, isn't he's pirate and music? He's not a bad guy, sort of. No, that's Sean Parker, scooter bra to not pirate music. No, but scooter bra, bad ombre. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, for sure. That's not defending scooter bra on the Nmax home. It's better. It's better. With our sweet Sudarshan, we could do better. It's a real play better situation. If Sudarshan would just win more, Sidney Sweeney might be more interested. Well, you know, he needs more social content. His Q rating's got to get up. Get Jordan speed data here. The future is now old, man. Come on. I tell you what, if someday one of my daughters brings home a sweet young boy, his name's Scooter, I'm telling him to turn around and get the hell out. I'm not, I can't seriously bring home somebody named Scooter. Get the hell out of here with that. Just take him out on the jet ski and scare the shit out of him until he won't come back to your family vacation. Scooter. Somebody needs to ask Sudarshan who's up now that she's off the market. I'm hoping we get like Dua Lipa. I know she's like engaged though too, but like maybe she's next. Who knows? Yeah. Sabrina Carpenter have a bow. I was going to say Sabrina Carpenter, I believe would be next on the list. I would bet. That's it. That's it for RBC Heritage. Congrats to Maddie Fitz on a big payday down there in South Carolina. Moving on to what seemed to be the most eventful tournament of the week. We have Live Mexico City, which Blatebreaking News is coming back announced by Live today is re-signed for 2027, which is worth its weight in the press release. That's about it. That's about it. When I saw the tweet go up, I immediately went to the replies and I wasn't disappointed by it. Are you sure about that? They're a lot of very sure about that. Are you sure about that? Well, you never know. Scott O'Neill is going to get in the fundraising mode and maybe you'll have back at your polterback. John Robb wins that event. If anyone gives a shit, he won by six. I guess he's still in the 18th hole. He's on a heater. He prepared much better clearly for this event than he did the Masters. Grinding to make the cut at the Masters. Shoot 78 there because 21 under here over four rounds beats David Pooge by six. I think the Legion 13 is also going to win. This just feels like talking about who's winning the Domino's game on the Titanic as it's going down. Like why are we talking about results? I have no idea. Can we just point out something? Chipoltapeck. This is one of the huge issues with Live and I think why John Robb hasn't been the same in majors since it. Chipoltapeck after you adjust for altitude is like a 6,000 yard course. That Hong Kong course they play is like insanely short. Are you saying he's a small ballpark guy now? No, but then you roll him out to Augusta. It's like 7,500 yards and it's just fiery and fast. It's like, oh yeah, I haven't seen a golf course like this in nine months because I also play in the desert on Overseas to Rye that's soft and mushy all year round. Let's just tease the ball up for you. Yeah. It's nice and soft. Yeah. I mean, so he wins. What it means, unclear. I think it's more of a condemnation of like you just laid out. Live's actual test, right? Not that the tour is all that grand. Well, I mean, there's a lot of layers to this. There's no depth in any of the fields. No. No matter what the executives will tell you. I mean, this thing is going to go down. It's one of the most comical case studies that businesses put out of how to light $5 billion on fire and just make no traction and just a cast of characters that have made no good decisions. I mean, the fact that they spent $5 billion and routinely rate below six figures in audience is just pure anxiety. They got a chance to fundraise. I'm sure they'll find some sucker to give them money and give them life support. But as PJ and Garrett kind of unpacked on Friday, I don't know how they're going to pay to keep Bryson, for example. And as soon as you keep losing people and keep filling in with Kieran Vincent, this league just continues to sail to more obscurity than it already is with nobody watching anyways. I just want to say, it's hard. It's hard out there. As you who are familiar with the startup life, I did appreciate Scott O'Neill saying, startups are defined by, quote, moments of pressure. Now, if your little startup had been given $5 billion to spend over a course of, I guess, four years, would you characterize that as still startup pressure? Would you characterize that? I think that's generally like a, you move past like the startup phase and you're like a well-funded company when you get the $5 billion in funding. I think that generally, if you've raised $5 billion, well, this is the thing, right? It's not a startup because it's owned by somebody else. Right. You know, right. Right. Well, it's a moment of pressure. And it's poured $5 billion into it. And now they're a $5 billion asset. If I had it like honestly on the open market, I'm fascinated to see what it's worth. Like I saw that they were saying they were going to try and raise or sell franchises for $300 million. I don't think the league in totality is worth like $50 million. No. I mean, I think in that White House meeting last year, this like, didn't they, they said, we'll give you like $50 million for it. And Yasser was so offended by it. While the tour side was like, that's like way over. That's painful for us to say even proposed $50 million. Was it $50 million or $500 million? I think it was $500 million. $500 million. Sorry. I'm dropping to zero there. Sorry. $500 million. But yeah. But like in all honesty, like what is a league worth that does, you know, 70,000 people and ratings? I mean, obviously not much. If they lose Bryson, they don't have like any assets really. Bryson who WD with the risk discomfort after complaining about dead grass or destroyed grass. This is what we're playing on. Apparently you've seen pouting about that fun week for Bryson. So he WD, yeah, they don't have the assets. We're catching up here. Obviously we discussed this on Friday. Apparently since then there was a slip up and lives European broadcast where Scott O'Neill was asked about Sergio Garcia's notion that there was funding through 2030. And he says, you know, that's just not the way the world works. We have commitments to have this. The reality is you're funded through the season and then you work like crazy as a business to create a business and a business plan to keep us going. So he just kind of let it slip that we're funded through this season. Then we got to figure out a business plan. That was then deleted, then re-uploaded with that portion left out. Like a comical run of, since honestly I was going to my red ad Tuesday, started to get the notes that like, live Mexico might not happen, live might be done, all these things. And then it was just sort of this roller coaster of backlash, victimhood, like sort of ambiguity of, you know, there's meetings happening there. Is it funded for tomorrow? Is it funded through the end of the year? And now like it seems pretty crystal clear or at least it's stable. The stable sentiment right now is that they are funded through this season. And then that's, they could figure out a solution like Andy just said. Maybe there's some sucker out there. It seems to me right now, like there was some real moments of like touch and go of like, maybe this will not continue. And then the ultimate kind of compromise was that they were going to be sunsetted. Their funding was going to be sunsetted as we talked about with J. Monahan being sunsetted through the end of the year. So it's like maybe to save face a little bit. Look, the one thing that I've said throughout the last three, four years about this is you're always at the whim of whenever the despot decides to just pay attention to be like, what, we're spending five billion where? Like, you know, I guarantee that they did not, like Mohammed bin Salman did not have like a close grasp of everything that was going on because they had so many different other things to be interested in was sort of told that, Hey, yeah, this is a good investment for us. And all of a sudden, when your priorities change and you can't spend a trillion dollars on your pet project in the desert that you wanted to do. I mean, like Thomas Freeman gave a great interview to golf digest this week. You know, one of the like kind of everything about Thomas Freeman as a opinion in columnist. He's a great Middle East correspondent wrote a great book about Middle East and he kind of said all along that, you know, the way that NBS saw this was never to like create a golf league. You wanted to like make more people in Saudi Arabia play golf and create these golf courses that were going to be built along the coastline there. And none of that really happened. And it's just sort of like, yeah, this we're not doing this anymore. And I think, you know, if I were Yasser, I'd be really kind of worried about my own job, like as I got to continue to be the PIF guy. I think that's always been true of dealing with these kind of leaders as they can snap their fingers in a minute and say, we're done with this. And there's nobody there to sort of rescue and bail them out. Yeah. I mean, I think we've kind of written that like we've written and talked about this from like the start is like, you know, the irony of these guys saying like, oh, we're going because it's like we want our freedom. We want more like freedom to move around freedom to play, you know, to take more breaks with our family, not be under the sort of quite frankly, like the authoritarian PGA tour where you have to get these waivers and we have to do all these things and jump through these hoops with committees and policy boards. And like, of course, like there's the danger in that all the time was it is whatever you think of the guy, whatever you think of like, you think it's Mother Teresa running the league is one person that literally can start and stop it. And you are beholden to them. You are always going to be beholden to whatever you're like, quite frankly, you're the authoritarian decision maker is and whether you want to say that's a body of government or just one person in MBS that was always the scare the the the the give and take. And it seems like that's where this is happening. You're beholden to maybe world events like the war in Iran, refolk, re changing, you know, focusing priorities. And that's just there's protections there on the PGA tour side that wouldn't be, you know, that that where one person or one decision or one event can't suddenly impact the entire league. You know what, it probably would have been good for golf if this had worked, but it just hasn't. And I think that's it's time to be honest about that. Like, I'm not sitting here and telling you like, it hasn't been good for the PGA tour players in some respects, as they've all gotten paid. I don't know what the financial strain is putting on a lot of these sponsors for tournaments on the PGA tour to try to keep up with this, you know, irrational actor in terms of finances. But it would have been good if there was another competitive league. And it just it's not, it hasn't emerged. And I don't know how a lot of faith that it will. That's because of the ineptitude of the leadership across the board. I mean, this was one of the worst run sports leagues, probably in the history of sports. I don't know what what all would be on that list. But I mean, they they faked a draft. And and people got a hold of the draft information. People, people us like chocolate fucks like us had it had the whole slide show of where I was going to go. One other humorous thing is that the way that this has happened where where they saw it is just like cut the funding. You know how much easier it would have been to fund this thing six months ago with the Saudi still funding it and still a part of like being like an active partner of it. Because another investor would be like, Hey, this is going to build me a closer relationship with the PIF. This is there. I'm going to be investing alongside them. Like this is going to build like maybe I can, you know, jump on some other investments. Now it's just like, Oh, they've just sent it off to see. And you're just coming in. You know who could be a good investor in it? Who's that? Mr. Distressed Debt Pat Cantley. There you go. Now it's just a stressed asset that's off to see. And it's going if somebody does invest in it, it's going to just get it on just for nickels or pennies. Well, yeah, it just never was going to have like it had an uphill battle because it didn't have corporate America. It was appeared like toxic and dangerous and all these things. And so it just had like you end up with sort of inept leaders like you're talking about a Greg Norman style. And we were going to have we have four months to kind of talk about this before it's maybe gone forever. But like just sort of the missteps you're talking about the draft. We were talking about this weekend where they post an interview, take it down, then repost it with the clip cut out. We're talking about from start to finish. I know they got more serious and seasoned people in there, but just never was. They had a multi hour blackout this week too and then didn't address it for hours. Well, Arlo and David Faraday come on and sort of like chastise everybody and then they go blackout for three hours. Like there are still some writers and broadcasters to take pride in their work, but this generation has spawned into a bunch of fast typists. You know that consider themselves to be experts and evidently they're not Faraday said about people saying live was done. Then Arlo said it must be exhausting trying to will the leave golf league out of existence. Take a day off everybody. And then it went black out for three hours. So not the moment to chastise, I would say, but it is the moment for a friend from Golf Galaxy. Download that app, go check out the brick and mortar store. I know if fitting was posted to our YouTube page with young boys Joseph and PJ, the perfect fit at Golf Galaxy. You too can go get set up there by downloading the app or going to golfgalaxy.com. They're turning you into a speed demon. You're about to play bullyball. I was watching the fitting today. Yeah. Yeah. You know me. You're going to need a new chirp for me because every time you see me play golf, you just go not a lot of speed. You're going to need I don't say that. I said you don't have a ton of pop in the back. Yeah, there you go. But there's a lot of great players without a lot of pop in the back. It's some certain line. I even yeah, each might be taking on the taking on Winfoot this week. Yeah. I got to get it blow by blow. I got to get an intro at Adread so he's gonna have a stress free day. That's fine. We'll we'll it's probably coming to Tuesday, Peach. Are we going to do massacre Winfoot part two? No. Well, he just got a bag fit because he went to golfgalaxy. I got all dialed in. You can too. You download the app, bring in your full bag of gamer clubs, and our team will thoroughly train fitters will optimize every club in your bag to get you playing your best golf. Go watch that YouTube video with Joseph and PJ getting fit. Fun content there. All right. Continuing on with our results. You know it's late in Scotland. We're not going to clue you in on the final of the LPGA. That's over in California at the moment. Say Young Kim is one clear with nine poles to play on the back nine. So obviously a very prominent LPGA player, Dunaliner career, looking to add one more in LA on the senior circuit. Peach, get your ass back in here again. Brief us on the big major championship of the weekend, the PGA at the concession club. You know, I've said this multiple times. I tweeted it today, coming down the stretch. I think Ryder Cup, the PGA of America, now he's their champion. Ryder Cup USA has got a big issue. It looks like one of the 12 best Americans in the world might have to be the captain again. The kitchen runs away, sets the course record at the concession today, wins going away by five shots over Ben Crane. Might I add Andy, we were close solo second for Ben Crane. We just had to get his feet wet here. He got acclimated out there. You know, big time players, big, big time players, big time games. Maybe we just needed a little bit, but I will add a top 10 finish for a broadcaster, Pat Perez in his debut hasn't played golf in over a year. A top 10 for Pat Perez, Sabo MC third to dead last shot 84 on Friday. What? Yeah. I didn't see that coming. What happened to Stenson? What did Stenson do? Where is Henry Stenson? The guy that was not... He was T-47. Yeah. Not involved all week in any way, shape or form. There's some blood up, the new blood up there, huh? Between Zatch and Pee-Pee Stenson. All right. How did Bernie do after Andy was getting them all pumped up in the Augusta Clubhouse when we bumped into him that day? Bernie finished in one under, 18 shots back. I think Bernie's days might be finally done. I think we might have new Bernie in the kitchen, man. The kitchen is just... He's going up there. Like he told you on the pod, Andy, it didn't happen immediately. It took him a year and a half, but now he's just killing everybody. So what you're saying, what I'm hearing is it's time to buy Ben Crane stock. Yeah. We're investing now for 18 months from now on Ben Crane. Yes. All right. Anything else from the PGA, Senior PGA? No. They put up a graphic on a golf channel comparing how big the trophy was to every other trophy in sports. It's a big trophy. It's a big trophy. So you got that going for you. It's at the concession for the next two years, I believe, after this year. So we're in the swamp for a while. Stu will be back to fight back next year. Are you bummed that you didn't get a go? No. No, I don't think I am. It didn't look like Don got to go either. So again, I'll just throw out... It does Don hate the olds because he didn't show up last year either. If I went to two of these things and I went to more than Don did, that would have been bad. I mean, we keep making requests for Don to come on lunch with the boys. We do. Don Rea. I mean, allegedly, the Gulf Raiders Association dinner on Wednesday Night of Masters week, the PGA president is supposed to make an award presentation. They brought in the past president, John Linder, and someone asked someone for the PGA, like, where's Don? And they said, last thing I'd ever do is put that man in a room full of reporters right now. And so Don is just like... hiding somewhere. But all I know is golf is the engine of good. Candy hammering the soundboard. It's been a while for this. I was going to say, we haven't soundboarded a while. Soundboard works overseas. That's high level tech. Quick news, rip around. It's late. Kevin Kisner just went moonwalked that boy, slide and slip slide back, walked it back quick with haste on the foreplay program. He apologized by saying... People were not happy. Well, I mean, it was idiotic. I mean, just like, for his part, I'm not suggesting I've never wanted to get into the merits. I didn't watch the broadcast, but like, you're the lead broadcaster of another rights holder, and you're on another platform where you're just exposing yourself to get... You know, he said, it is what it is, man. And I just have to apologize to the golf team at CBS. I cross the line probably too much by talking about that whole content. And I know from my short time in the business, how wild production is. It's a very difficult thing to produce a live show and make it all work, and everybody does their best. NBC screws up all the time. We're trying to do our best. I went too far in being critical of them. He was juggling multiple roles as a broadcast, part-time podcaster, and part-time player. I mean, just... Part-time podcaster, part-time player, part-time broadcaster. I feel like I'm wearing so many hats. I'm going to screw up. I probably shouldn't have gone down that road at all, because I just stepped out and said I was involved in the tournament. I don't really need to have an opinion on it. Then we sit here all the time, and I do have an opinion. I want to tell my opinion. So it's an interesting line to walk. Yeah, I empathize with him having to like honestly talk, you know, candidly on the podcast, but he also has his role that probably pays him and is very prominent. And all by the way, the boss, the ultimate final boss at NBC is Brian Roberts, who's an Augusta National member and a green jacket where CBS did the broadcast, and probably was on the phone to his... Whoever the people are in between Kisner and Brian Roberts, and there's several of them, I assume. It's just like an insane thing to put yourself out there on. It exposes yourself a lot. I will say, hand up. So I did watch the broadcast. I was my role on Sunday, where you guys were out on the thing to kind of assess everything that was going on. And it wasn't great. There was some... The real weird thing I thought was they never even brought up a thing with Houtong. Like, they make it Scotty, like take 30 minutes to do that approach on 13. And then, you know, they obviously had it made a mess of 18. But like, it's just always like an unwritten rule to you can't really talk about that kind of stuff. Like, I'm not going to sit here and like criticize other podcasts or whatever or other newspapers that much. It's because they are doing their job. And I guess maybe that is sort of uncool to kind of abide by those kind of ethical, unspoken standards. But it just was very, very rare. I mean, I talked to a couple of people who were like, man, he might get fired for this. And I think, you know, I bet that was tossed around and considered, you know, and for kids' sake, I'm glad that it didn't happen. But man, not the... It's kind of almost an episode of when Keeping It Real goes wrong. That old Chappelle skit. The live thing dropping like the day after that Kisner stuff on the pod was like a just a godsend for Kisner. Because that was about to get real hot and real prominent. And then the live stuff just washed it away real quick. That's news. What else do we have? Smiley gets an invite allegedly to Zurich. I don't think he's taking it. Just people guessing on who he got it from. Lexi Thompson signs up to be a USA, US Women's Open qualifier. So she's going for 20 in a row. A part-time player like Kis. Good to see her trying to keep it up at the US Open, make it to Riviera. Good for her to qualify and not begging for an exemption. If she does it. Yes. Yes, she gets through. That's great for trying. Full swing fours out. I guess I'll need to check that out on the flight home. Didn't know that was coming out. And John Rom's Caddy is selling a house for $14 million in North Carolina. That's other big golf news here on this Sunday night. I don't have anything else. Nice good living, I guess. If you can get it. Lupin living in a $14 million house. Pretty good deal. Might have gotten cut. Maybe you got a cut of that. I guess the question is when do you buy it? Yeah. All right. That does it. I think for this Sunday night, it's late here. Look, the Liv story is massive. I understand. This podcast has been the lifespan of this podcast. It's lifespan. So I think it was like a big roller coaster, but what did it actually mean? Sort of like framework agreement day. I think we're starting to understand what it meant on Wednesday and Thursday. As things started to develop and clarify, we're going to have four or five months to really pour through it on that, which we will three times a week on this podcast. So thank you all. Thanks to Garrett and PJ for jumping in on Friday. They thought that was an excellent podcast on the news of the day. Kevin, thanks for jumping in here. You have a big newsletter segment tomorrow from Dispatch from Scotland. You've had a big, but just a little writing from a Sunday at the old course. Love it. Love it. We've had a great time here in Scotland. Obviously, great time doing the old course for first. Going to have a lot of content coming over the next. A lot of people ask, and when the podcast will come out of the talk that we did at the Burnt Theater. So I'm going to push us to get and put that out at some point down the road because there's a lot of people who want to hear about that stuff on the Friday. Well, I got news for your brother. That's not in your jurisdiction. That's a Friday pod. I just... So you have to go through me and PJ and guess who decides that schedule? I just did the... PJ. The full-on Trump. You're just now telling me for the very first time. I've never heard this before. I'm just telling you what the people want. The audio is in Dropbox and the podcast. Okay. Once again, this is the first time hearing of this. It's the first time. It's saving for a good rainy day. It'll help you all out, I'm sure. I got to do something. It's not ready for the mass world. So that's the answer. All right. Read Kevin in the newsletter tomorrow. Check out Golf Galaxy, Shady Rays, whatever it is. Thank you for listening. We've got a couple more days in Scotland. Andy's out of here. We will talk to you on Wednesday.