BEANIE SIGEL: MILLION DOLLAZ WORTH OF GAME EPISODE 355

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He had his own style. He was just unapologetically him. Win, lose, or draw, indifferent, it didn't matter. But he showed us something. He showed us something special. He showed us, man, you could just be you and you could rap the way you want to rap on a global level. He took the street rap and took it global, being with the rock, doing this thing. He always has been him. I got a saluting. We got a saluting. This boy is a legend, man. Bro, I love you because what you did for Philly, you established us in a major way. You did some shit. You really established us before we had somebody like, we in a cell looking at this shit like, damn, all over the state, damn it. And then you had a thousand cousins. Anybody that was from the P, was your cousin. That's my cousin, man. Yeah, man, I used to write his rap. So everybody was connected to you. They was from the P, and he's like, damn, man, everybody, listen, man, everybody in the jail just was like, yo, he talking to us with what life's like. Every lyric, everybody could feel it because it was like, this the only representation that we had, but you a legend, man. And we're so happy to have you here, man. Like, the history, you know, I took Gail to your first Earl bagging that he didn't even know who he was. This when you was Beanie Mac, it was a, it was a, no, straight up, it was a show. We was down, like, I think it was West South Philly. I ain't sure it was like 95, 96, somewhere around there. And I'm like, yo, so this before signed to anything, wait before this one, you was Beanie Mac. Oh, shit. You was Beanie Mac at the time. Yeah. We might have been in cousin Elms. Yeah, probably. And I take them down there. We in the back. I'm like, yo, man, it's the ball right there, man. This time the third, I already knew because I was, he wasn't in the rap. I was in a rap because at the time in Philly, you know, Mac rap was unless cool. So niggas like, you're like, you rapper, like this before street niggas wanted to be rappers. Yeah. Now it's different. Like, this one, like you like, they looking at you like, this nigga crazy, you a rapper. Yeah. All right, get the fuck out of here. Shit. My own brother used to tell me that. New should tell you that. Like, what? Corny nigga. Man, we used to be like, we out on the squad and had all those houses. So I used to, you know, allegedly get some of his work. Come on, we gonna go down here. One is, you know what I mean? He, I could rap to him because he loved it. Man, let me hear, oh, hey, say something. News, my brother. He was a hater. Man, get out of here with that rap. News was a hater. So it's cool. So fucking hater. It's cool. He like, man, you getting this money and y'all letting him take y'all because we had nice situations. And it was that the loser whole day of that running somewhere with me to go to a rap battle or a showcase. It was, it was crazy. News ain't one hand. I call home from jail one time, right? There's no bullshit. This nigga don't even, he ain't got his memory fucked up from smoking all that Reggie. Snorting lines back in the day. He was doing, he lose dude, little smoke, rambos. He did a little, he was a blended whatever was, you know, and arms reached to get on a buzz out. He's smoking wet. He just was on a thing, smoking rambos. He was just wild for the night. No, I don't get no more time. He stripped out on 23rd and diamond. He stripped out, they call me, yo, your cousin always closed his folder on the side. He was ass naked in the Chinese store. It was wild. But that's another story. Yeah. So what happened is I call him. He like, yeah, man, me and see, be together every day. I said, what you mean? Man, see, be down north with me. We, I said, hold up. What was she? I said, cause you don't even remember. I show, I told you to the fucking show. He told me, what you mean? PD Matt, when we went to the fucking show, when I, when I was home, does that dirt? Yo, you talking about back at the, at the, at the, that was real? I didn't know it was the same person. No, he's an idiot. He was, I told you he was on that. Yeah. He had a little bit of everything. I forgot. I used to hide it. I didn't, I didn't put, I didn't, you know, put them two people together. I'm like, they always together every day. What the fuck is y'all doing? Oh, he was like, we was up north, man. Like he was from north. Because Gill and like, I was just like, getting my shit together. Like, like figuring out, like, I just was, I had a couple of rhymes. A couple. That's it. Bro, I had, when I got signed to Rockefeller Records, I might have had six raps. Get the fuck out of here. But I didn't know how to count. You was strong then. You was already strong. But I didn't know how to count bars. Like, everything that you heard me, all of the music that I put out with Rockefeller, I was writing that then. I ain't never have a rap book or none of that. So they put no instrumentals and I got to sit there and I'm right. So how long did it take you to do the first album? I went right on a hard night life tour. But I don't know. The man was a blur. Was it after the tour? The album was, I went right in. It probably took me a couple months to record the album. But wait, but would you get any practice when you was in the hard night life tour? No, because hard night life, nobody knew me. I just got signed to Rockefeller. So nobody knew me. And I think you had a freestyle out. You was just doing the freestyle. I had this freestyle that I would do. So the first night on the tour, I don't know if it was the first or the second night because I don't think I came out from the gig. Jay brought me out and I did this acapella on stage and they went crazy. So the next day he called me out again. That's how he was introducing me to the world off that tour. Like people really knew. Like, I'm gonna say outside of the tri-state, like Philly, New York, because I was going up there a lot. But anywhere else from that tour, that's how people started out. How did it feel though, to be from Philly, be from the pink and you getting on these national stages, seeing the reaction in places that we might not be so familiar for or people don't know it from, to get them reactions like, no, I'm really hot. But how did that feel? It took a minute to hit me. It took a minute to hit because I went from going up, like meeting Gail and them going up north and meeting up on Park Ave. Park Ave. Well, cousin, oh man, what was correct, Broly. He had a cousin, Bro, that used to live around there. That's who he used to bring me up there with. But y'all used to come down south Philly too. We had a Detail Shop and Stevie G had a crib on I think 56th Greenway. Shout out to Stevie G. So I met all of them and that was like a lot for me. Just, you know, starting to rap. There was no crew downtown that was like, you can rap with? No. It was big. It was, who was my name? Raheesey? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. But Raheesey and then I met Myrtle Mill and this shit. Myrtle Mill. Y'all listen, he had a joint. I met Gail and them. We rocking off for like, seem like two months or something like straight. We meeting up or less than that. I went from that to meeting Jay and being, this bro, this happened in three or four months. Damn. For me, meeting Gail and us being together every day, this is like three or four months. Meeting most one, it wasn't long. And in South Philly, couple of people that like they knew I rap because once I got with Myrtle Mill, we recorded like three songs. Me, him and Ike. And we dropped, we pressed up some CDs and we gave them out in the hood and in South Philly, people was rocking to them joints. And then when I met most one, it was like a week later, I met Gail and them. And we used to meet up. Shout out to the most one. Yeah. Southwest, everybody's me, Gail, Spade, we locked in Dutch. What? You are. Me and Seed met in a syrup house. Yeah. Michelle called me. So you're always going to get lifted. I get lifted. Yeah. I was going to get lifted. How you always trying to fly? I believe I'm a fan already. Yeah. Because they got tips. I'm like, what? What's so crazy is, right? So we and Michelle call Fihal. Shout out to Michelle. Because Michelle used to be up. Here you have. Here you have. But shit got hot. So she had to go. So I had to go all the way down South Philly to get my shot. That's right. Yeah. So I'm in there. And of course, Michelle set me up. She had some tour like nephews in there. So when I come in here to shot it, no, she ain't let me leave. Lil Rucky was with me. Right? Rest in peace, Lil Rucky. Rest in peace. Oh, rest in peace. Oh, God. And we in there and they was the two young boys was rapping for me and I'm listening. And then as they stopped, Rucky started to rap and then beans walked in and Rucky was rapping and beans were just he was listening. Man. Rucky stop. Soon as Rucky stopped being started rapping. Like and I'm sitting here. I'm like this dog. I ain't never heard another nigga rap in Philadelphia up until that time where I felt like this nigga could fuck with us. That's crazy. Like that nigga was rapping and I'm sitting there. I'm like putting it together. Shit. And I'm looking at you out. Bro, when they embraced and was fucking with me, you couldn't tell me nothing. See, I was the shit. I don't even know this at the time. Yeah, tell me nothing. This episode of me and I was worth a game is brought to you by Game Time. Basketball season is here, which means excitement of being in the stands before Tip Off has arrived to the Game Time app gives you advantage back to fans. 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And they would just be like, bro, you got to fuck with them. So before I even saw my deal, I'm like, no, y'all going crazy over me. Bro, the man, I ain't even saw my deal yet. And I'm telling Deacon them, yo, we got a brand. Shout out to Deacon them. Like everybody came up like, what? Oh my god. If it went, I wanted to went and happen, I happened. But I thought that I was going to be signed to Rockefeller. And everybody was going to be under Black Friday. Shout out to Black Friday. Rest in peace, roller. Rest in peace, roller. Shout out to them. Troy Carter. And honestly, that's how they tried to do it. We went up, we hollered at Jay. You feel what I'm saying? We hollered at Dane. You know, they was putting a deal in place, you know, from the time it took for them to get the deal and present it to us. We had already done put music out. You feel what I'm saying? We already pop it. Already just signed. Already signed with Tony Draper. You feel what I'm saying? Draper already done shot me six figures and shit to my account. So I'm like, okay, I'm seeing how fast or you can run through these couple of hundred like it ain't nothing like you feel what I'm saying? Like I'm so by the time the deal was presented to us, it was like, oh no, this shit ain't matching up to what already what I already got. You feel what I'm saying on the solo level. So that's the reason why we ain't take this shit. But other than that, it was just business. You know what I'm saying? I ain't have a clue. Man, I bought it ain't nobody in Philadelphia that rap at that time that didn't come up. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. And part of us getting up to Rockefeller was, was I battled my son up at Def Jam. Jay and Dane was the judges. My son, he cooked you. We already got too many people to sit and cook. My son. My brother, he know you won't call me, but everybody said he cooked you. Everybody we talked to, they said they put he put you in the real best three out of five rounds and then only one three rounds. That's my brother, but I threw him on a barbecue grill, cooked him up. He probably get me now. Put back down my son. He probably get me now. You fried him. But he want to grill barbecue sauce on it. Before I got to that motherfucking hollentunnel, Rockefeller one motherfucker back up that joint and then just so happened, see go. Now he find out it's a click of us. It's not just me. And then we want to be in trying to do some business. Yeah. You know what I mean? But, but, but, but when you went up there to sign, right, I think it's crazy that you only had a few reps when you signed. Because I thought beans was a rapper rapper. That's crazy and shit, right? Because I wasn't no rapper rapper. You feel what I'm saying? I only had like, well, after beans had got done rapping in the serve house when we met, I started rapping and then things didn't even know who I was. And then he said, you the, you the boy, Gilead say, yeah, we got in the mix next thing. You know, I'm coming to your apartment on 46th Street or 44th street, 48th. Yeah. Well, we, we out, we up north, we down south Philly. We, so that's how we really got in the mix. Like you feel what I'm saying? Like in, in C was hot and then a motherfucker. How did you never thought that nigga only had? Yeah, I had like six or seven rap, but I didn't know how to count bars. No, those bitches was longest shit though. So I can know how to break them down. I can chop. Yeah. So that's how I used to, like, when I battled people, you know what I mean? I could shit, it might not, it might only take two reps. But the way I break them down and then how I used to just deliver it, especially like a cappella, like, that's how I used to, that was my thing. Fuck that beat. Go right in. And go in like that. Yeah. Now when you got your deal, right? Yeah. Coming out of Philly, how did it feel to like have a deal at that time? Like, you know what I mean? Like, I'm from down here. I ain't knowing you only had a couple of reps. Like how the shit like damn, they gave me, they gave me this brag that she had my account. Bro, it was like, to me, honestly, I felt like I caught a leg. You're like this sweet. That's how I looked at it. I like, it was, but like, not knowing that it was a career, because I didn't look to do that. Like, I had a couple of reps. But when I met niggas who really was doing that shit, like gilling them, like I said, Rahisi, other people, I'm going around the city and battling a couple of people. I met free before I met JNM. And it was like, okay, niggas like, boy, nice, but I wasn't, I would never in a million years think that I will be signed to Rockefeller Vegas. So you, so you go, you go up there, you start taking people up there with you. Yeah, you took free, you took a by the whole, the whole SSP. It was like, not just me, but said he had a lot to do with the roller had a lot to do with that champ. I was the only, oh my God, I was the only person from you. I look at him by, I'm the only person from South. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they all from yeah. So I was by myself, by myself. So I'm everybody else from North. So that's why I used to be up because I wasn't about to tell niggas. You ain't want to tell niggas down the P hunt. No, it's that first of all, it really, it really wasn't even cool, like the rap to be known for that. Because I was already, you know, in the street doing shit. So it was like, niggas didn't really know, but those who did and South Philly was like, no, like shop to splash cousin, my man, Donnie Carr. Like it was the young boys that was giving me like, yeah, you got really do it. Yeah, like people my age ain't know I was like that because I ain't wrapped in years. But one thing about these early reps, he definitely was going. Tasty trade has a suite of probability tools so you can make smarter picks for your portfolio, though it can't help you fill out your NCA bracket. You can trade stocks, options, futures, and more all in one platform. Tasty trade offers low commissions, including zero commission on stocks. So you can keep more of what you earn. The platform is packed with trading features like back testing, which lets you simulate your trading strategies using 10 plus years of data. So you can test your ideas about potential Cinderella stocks. Active traders can use features like ladder trading mode, one click trading and smart order tracking to manage their positions during crunch time. If you want to learn to trade or discover new strategies, Tasty trade has dozens of educational courses you can access for free with your account. 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I have a much music that I had out at that time when we got into it. That's what I had. So how would you approach in it like that? I'm going to D block. Like how would you go in the booth to go like, how would you like I'm going to these niggas? How would you really approach in that shit? Like, could you do? Yeah, I'll be you came in the game. I listened to the locks and I listened and I watched. I was with some dogs. What? Like that's what I based my whole shit. Like when I was like, damn, and I knew I could like write like that's who I was listening to. Like every day, like when niggas wasn't even on them, they was the warlocks. Yeah. Before they was the locks. Everybody was on them like that. I was on them. Me, like I said, my man, right here. See, shout to my man, blood cow. We used to ride to New York. We used to go as hold up. Hold up. The little rookie J. Hood before the little rookie. The rookie smashed a lot of people. No, I'm saying they say him and J. Hood had went went at it one time. Somebody told me that. I know. I know. Ruck Cassidy battle. Yeah. No, rock. Yo, when rock came to Rockefeller, but that's when he was like, look, he was crazy. He went crazy. They say rookie was just like, see, I got a story I could tell, but I want nobody to feel no way. No, good man. Tell it, man. Yo, rookie was so crazy, bro. I don't know if you was there, Gil, you remember this day. But rock was up there. It was a couple people. And I think this was the first day crack was up there. I was in there. No, crack. Why didn't it? So this was the Nickelback situation. I brought them up there, you know, the rap for Jay. So man, Nickelback had a situation like in the hook. We were supposed to battle before it never happened. But that was my man. Yeah. But people started telling me like, yo, he got all these raps coming at you. He got like a whole. I'm like, you heard me. Right? So I'm like, you're we gonna do it. We gonna do it. I'm like, then you got a bunch of it's like, no. So he was like, no, I don't have no raps about you. None of that. I said, listen, I got a situation up New York. I might be signed on Rockefeller. I want to bring you up there. He swore to me before we even got on the turnpike. But he had no raps for me. We go up there, rock up there. Rock got that shit on red line. Like everybody that was rock has so many raps. And his friends are so crazy. Every time somebody finished rapping, rock was gone. And he just wouldn't stay as like a machine up that joint. And then they could Nickelback run out of raps. So he had the resort to start saying the raps that he had written about you about me. Damn. Yeah, rock had that rock. What was the first line they caught you my attention? He said something. This is just funny too. He said, he said, if you the the new supplier now know the bacon town or something, he was talking, he was talking. He said some crazy shit. It was fly. Because as soon as he said it, I felt that I said, and I look and J look dead. J look dead at you. Like right at him. He's like, nigga, you better do something. He said that J look that I look, I look right at J. J look that me when he say nothing. Rock went again. So I said back. I said, so my man spark child. So I said, I heard him. So what was your clip load? Did you have anything in the clip? I fucked the clip. This was his man. He brought him up to get some light. And now he's coming at him. Yeah. What was the second line? It was I don't remember. I'll be lying to you if I say I remember, but it was some fly shit. And it was fucking I said, Oh, this crazy. And then when J looked at me and we locked I said, Oh, fuck this nigga. This crap. I said, Oh, like that hurt. Like this nigga. It didn't he spun you though. Yeah, because I bring you there. I brought him there. drove all the way up here. Then you came in here. So I make me look like a cream pie and he tried to make you look like a cream pie. So I let him go all the way till they finished. I ain't saying nothing. So my man was like, you want to hear all of them bitches? I just know I just wanted to wait because I didn't really know them. It's like my third, fourth time actually being in J presence. Like I ain't I'm new to all this shit. Bro, I'm fresh off of 21st and see you. All this shit far. I don't know what's going on. You just like I need some paper. All I know is I need some bread and you got me. And then when I when I locked in with roller, it was a rat because it was like roller was important. Roller was rolling. Yeah, he was rolling. Yes, he was the real one. Yes. So I was like, Oh, I can fuck with him because he was my type of guy. Yeah. Yeah. And it was like, all that shit was foreign to me. You gonna give me what for what is on and I gotta do what I'm you get that. Bro, I was copying the nine. Get in front of the nine crazy. 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Baking services provided by cash at bank partners prepaid debit cards issued by Sutton bank member fdic promotions provided by cash app a block ink brand visit cash app slash legal slash podcast for full disclosures. It might have been close to like $2 million. How did you get that? Hold on before y'all that don't know that I ever did my life. I caught a $1 million publishing deal before my album even came out. Let me get that. They was saying let me get that to everything. Bro what type of public they wanted all your publishing? I don't know what it was. You just said give me that. It was an M. Yeah. A million dollars a million dollars from where I came from. Bro I just told you I was copping the nine front of the nine. Yeah. That's what I was doing. And in two months a nigga said he gonna give me what? They do what? Oh yeah. Let me get that. Let me get that. And I did. I was doing features. Did the joint with puff puff gave me a buck 50. It was it was like that then. Bro I was on you got a shit load of your streams. Great. Like god damn. So let me ask you this question. And then next thing I know you pop up in them Philadelphia streets with two Bentley's. Yeah. Not one Bentley. One Bentley wasn't a fuck enough. Damn. Seagull had to pop up with two of them bitches. No but it was it was you know I got them Bentley's bro. I said that I just did the joint with Bleak. Bro they were it was just it was there for me. You know what I'm saying. It was crazy because I got the first Bentley. So I forgot what show we is at. We is at a show. Where it's backstage and it was you know it was the A. Let's that's J and then it's me bleak and we in the B joy. But I would always find my way in that A room because I know that's where the players at. That's where everybody in that in that joint. That's where the fools at. My is a fat nigga. So we got lunch meat trees and all that shit. They got steak and all kind of shit catered. I'm in there. I heard Puff saying and then they you know they talking that money shit and Dame told him he had just copped the Azore and puff asked him what label was it. And I don't know what they respond because I don't even know this language. I didn't know at the time that Bentley came in green label rare label black label. You know I mean that's like the four to five and the six in the Bentley world. So you know Dan was popping this shit. I popped talking this fly shit and he told him that you know he had to he had the cop Darnage. Puff said the four door and he was like yeah. And Puff was like yo you know I got the R not the I don't even know where I parked it at. I can't he said I can't even find it. No bullshit. That's what he told me. He said he ain't seen the car in months. He forgot where he parked it. So they talking heavy to each other and then he asked Dame did he drive his own Bentley and he was like yeah. Damn ain't driving no more. Damn. Is it here. So what you said. Let me give me that John. I'm taking it back to the conversation. Yeah. I ain't signed the set no way and I let a couple and I can't and then what you want to do with that. He passed off you with it on the road. I don't care about none of that money. What let me get that. Yeah. Yeah. Let me get that. And we talked about it and I found out you know what he put on the world and all that next day back cash is checked. George I had almost two million for the album came out. Get that. You like this. You can wait. Cash is checked from the next day. Huh. Let me get the keys. What's the note. Yeah. This time send me the bill. It went crazy. Send me the note. You know what's funny though. I seen a puff and a baby had one of them joints back and forth. Yeah. Yeah. In New Orleans the Super Bowl was in New Orleans and they all over at the cash money house and they get to going back and forth and baby telling puff. What do you know you can't fuck with me. What do you mean. Kind of this stun. Yeah. Baby talk that shit. I mean nigga. Fuck nigga. I got X X amount of millions of dollars in ice. What they don't make me go get my jewelry box nigga. The nigga puffs it. Nigger. I take five percent of my money and buy a house in this fucking neighborhood and I'll be your neighbor. Damn. Oh shit. That was this. That was different level fucking with this. All that was out my league. All that. That's when I realized my life wasn't a devil. I was like nigga just take five. You know what I want to know. Buy a house in New Orleans. No you got some people that be like some some I see a lot of special in the young. Hey guys it's reand friend. If you're looking for a cola that delivers Pepsi prebiotic cola is it because nothing beats that great Pepsi taste. It's delicious. It has three grams of prebiotic fiber five grams of sugar just 30 calories and no artificial sweeteners. It honestly tastes like Pepsi with so much more to love. Try it. Loved it. Pepsi prebiotic cola. You should pick some up if you haven't already. It's the perfect drink when you are ready to just relax sit on the couch watch a movie and enjoy a delicious Pepsi prebiotic cola. A lot of people be rappers. The skies does street niggas. Like I was a young nigga from the street. The skies is a rapper. That was a leg. That was my mission. It was sweet. Yeah. What my mission. It just happened. Let me ask y'all this. In the history of Philly right. Yeah. There's always issue when my artists come up. They never could do it together. Y'all too was young. I mean you know major figures state property had an issue. What I really want to know was both of y'all was getting money. You're young. Y'all got egos. What really could have prevented your class and your moment to educate those who's coming after was because it seemed like anytime somebody get hot in the town nobody gets stick together for every generation of rapper. You know it's your time. It'd be like that. So what went wrong with y'all. How could it could have went different. And like what game can y'all get a young boys as we move forward in this shit. Because y'all was too heavy dudes and y'all fuck with each other. Obviously then y'all didn't stop fucking with each other. But I know how sometimes it'd be people in the middle. What wrong with y'all. I would say. If I'm speaking right. I never even really even knew that we even had an issue. I just knew that we were supposed to do some business over with Rockefeller. It didn't come down to the business being done. And that was that. You know I mean we trying to find a new outlet. We going in a new direction. We going in a. So I never even knew it was an issue. But as I look as as you know we was young niggas and we looking at it we like damn maybe sequel might have felt betrayed because we ain't come over there. Or you know we ain't really understand it like we you know what I'm saying. But am I. That was my stance. Like because it was my call to make that decision. Right. My outlook was whatever the old is was doing. Like I'm following you know was Black Friday Black Friday. Yeah. I'm following that and I'm by myself. So I don't know what's going on. Because at the me my mental mentality then was that that's not my business. That's some more Philly shit. Okay. I was just a nigga from South Philly. Right. All that was some more Philly shit. Right. I don't know the politics. I was salty when Gail and the man come but I ain't look at it like they betrayed us. I just thought they couldn't figure it out. Yeah. And why they couldn't figure it out. But it was always to me like some eternal shit even with this shit with you know Chris and and you know was spade and that was like different the same neighborhood. I'm from down here. So I really don't know what's going on. Yeah. At that time and if anything that I could say what could have prevented it. The answer your question was it wasn't on niggas around like y'all and what y'all doing like even the people that was that we was under because if you some real old heads. No. Niggas and niggas were the follow suit even while that's how it was. If they were some real niggas could have sat niggas down and like no that's how we doing this. We ain't nothing over the money. Right. Yeah. Not no petty shit. Right. Don't nothing stop the money. Right. But how do you like like even even with everything that y'all went through. His like in today's time sometimes young motherfucking trying to hear and it is always somebody in between. Like I could only imagine the motherfuckers that was in between y'all saying this and that and pushing y'all. Yeah. It probably was a whole lot. You gotta look. It was new. Yeah. It was the first time. It was new. Bunch of money involved. And there's a bunch of street niggas with some paper that went in. Yes. And that's how I looked at it. Yes. So it was a lot of like I said I'm on the South Filling Niggas. I'm over here. And it was a lot of if I'm not I got to speak my trip. It was a lot of North Filling Niggas with some bread. That was some paper. That's some paper and they wanted in any any however way. Yeah. They wanted in. So niggas was trying to figure shit out because this was something new. It wasn't like that. Like when you before me we had like the roots and like types of roots. Bahamadir and stuff. You had a legal youngsters but nobody was like us. Yeah. Okay. I did what you're saying. Nobody was like we was the first. Yeah. Street. Like I ain't want to say it like yeah me me me. Yeah. Like we was the first. The lingo of the rap style. The cadence and the style. Nobody was talking like that. Back then that fly. I got that. I put that in. I gave it to him. What they got was your first fucking producer. He was talking like that. They just asked me that on the podcast. On my top five. You had to put girl in that joint. I mean but if a motherfucker don't know they don't know they don't know they don't understand that. It's it's it's it's hard to do a whole independent movement where you come out this. You come out the house as an independent Philadelphia rapper just in Philadelphia. Like the motherfuckers is going crazy. Like they just like like you already made it like you the MF. You don't understand that. You feel me even what me did. That's not no regular shit. That's not right. I'm saying it's hard to do that to be a kid from North Philly. Come up. You ain't on yet but it's like you on because everybody treats you like you want. You feel what I'm saying. So if you wasn't around to see that you might say such a such as a bigger rapper than me or something because you wasn't in those times to see when motherfuckers was losing a mind about him. Yeah they asked me my top five. I got me and top five all time and they asked me like in the new generation. I got him in that top five. He had two different categories. You got you. Yeah. Ain't nothing like like y'all paved the way for for to keep going. Like you know what's so crazy. We sit on the phone with me right and me be like kill you don't understand. I was 13 years old. I was down south Philly rapping all your shit and then me could sit there and rap some shit from back in the day of minds that I can't even rap. Yeah. Can't even remember. That was right. No you just really. Right. No I was. Listen. I was Gil manager producer. He was a rapper all his life. Right. Yeah. But when he finally realized crazy cuz was that nigga was his manager. All he wanted to do was the hooks cuz you got the wraps. I'm just gonna do the yeah. You got the no because listen Gil was so hot. Right. I was hot too. But I was like he he he it was his energy. Like we both had energy but the way he would the his his his body his body language was everything with every ball was everything connected and I was like this guy's a star. I'm gonna sign him up. I signed him up. You want like you know what I mean. Like I was like that old I was like the old greasy manager back in the year. Gonna be a star. Listen. No that's why I should be here. If you think about it you're gonna be a star. He's always telling me. So I take him to the studio. Sign him up. I had this month. So Eddie did it. We did his first two three cuts. Sammy Summertime. And today he do his first three cuts. You know what I mean. I get him to sign the Sammy Summertime records. And what happened was I had him doing his first promo tour in Philly. He thought it was a promo tour. I was actually getting paid. He was doing block parties and shit. He was doing block parties and bars and shit. He was getting paid. I was getting paid. I had him doing a fake promo tour. He thought he was pro. I said everybody do it. You know how they get you at the beginning. Everybody do a promo tour. Don't worry about it. Just do all the do 50 shows. Whole time I'm pocketing the money. I'm just giving him a little prudine. You sometimes you remember the prudine. I'm getting prudine. You go get your cheese stick man. Go ahead. You did good. Get $200. But whatever the case may be. No I just knew Gil had to start quality. And I'm like listen I'm gonna do these hooks. We're gonna put it together. We're gonna get the logo done. We're gonna build the brand because I'm in the studio 95 because I've been in a rap game since 1992 in Philly. I used to be the hype man for Lyrical Tears. Spado Dark Man. Recay by shout out to them. And what happened Rob what happened was one day Spade was like yo wow you gotta start writing. And Spade just taught me how to write Colorado Street Night's Town. I used to live on 17 Wing of Hawkins. Spade lived behind us. So he took me put me to sit me right down there and show me how to write 16s. So when I set up major figures I went back to Spade. I'm like Speezy. I'm like yo man I got listen I ran into my cousin I ain't seen him since we was kids. We got a group. What's the group? Major figures. This is what it is. And he was like what? So Spade and Gill and them connected when I went to jail. Damn. Me and Spade used to play on the football team together when we was twins. But I knew. Jackpock. Jackpock's are the talk of the town right now. Powerball, mega million. Everyone's watching those numbers climb. That's why we've partnered with Jackpock America's number one lottery app. They will alert you to upcoming drawings and also keep you a part of the buzz. You can order official state lottery tickets right from your phone and get a photo of your real tickets in the app. 73 people have already become millionaires using Jackpocket. Try it yourself. New Jackpocket customers get $5 in lottery credits. 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Tommy Hill and my homeboy Tajie that was his brother. So he used to connect me and Tommy Hill he used to pull up on me like yo man we got to do something like come on man. So I got to the point like this nigga bullshitting. I said Gil come on let's do our own shit. No, that's crazy. What that being saying right? Because he's going to say the reason why we started doing it. The reason why you started Major Figure is because Tommy Hill would put you on this shit. Yeah that too. I wasn't even in the record. Listen, I was pissed. You know why they're so crazy? Because in Philly you got to give it to it was Ram. Ram squad wasn't no fucking joke. After Ram squad like if you want to heart you you say tough crew then Ram squad. No, no, no, hold up, hold up, hold up. I got to break it down Beans 1992 when I was a high band for Ligerts. You know hip hop story. No, no, no, no, no, no, hold up. In Philly you had this Ram was there too. 92. You had Lyrical tears. You had Red Boy. You had Task Force. You had 100x. You had Ram squad. The thing that was so powerful, Fat Clack click. You had a couple other people. But the thing that was so powerful about Ram squad was that Ram squad was smart and nobody do is when they came to their shows and they saw him come on who the niggas running 55 deep nigga. They had 100 niggas in the crowd. Everybody had Ram squad merch on. Yeah, they was into the merch game. They had they had real music. They had they had the whole they had the whole setup and they had a projects behind them. So it's like like having a neighborhood. So you had you had all them. So I'm like, but I knew him. I'm like, damn, he playing. So I told Gil, come on, man, get in the booth. You're going to be a star. We're going to do this shit. I'm setting up major, major figures, right? I mean, major figures, right? Boom. It was me, Gil, my man, Rick Lowe, El De Niro. You're going to be a star. I knew the I said, kid, you're going to be a star. You got it. You got it. So we go to the studio. We talk about, man, make sure you get your own. Oh yeah, that's some good ass pizza, man. Yeah. They not playing university city. Yes, university city. So listen to beans. I built stars. So I'm in the studio and I'm like, listen, look at this magazine. Master P is on it is rap pages magazine. If you know what I'm talking about, I play Master P. He tells me, man, why are you playing? Why are you sitting me down with this bullsh**? I said, because this with the money the rap business is money. It's a lot of money. I'm reading about publications. I got, I got, I got a what's the name of all you know, all you need to know, Donald Passman, all you need to know about the music business. I'm on the streets trying to be, I was a lawyer. I was a manager. I was everything right here. He is a fake ass. So what happened is, but what happened is he made it because of me and I knew he was going to be a star. But whatever the case may be, whatever the case may be, that back then rap wasn't cool. Yeah. So I'm telling Gil like, because Gil was fighting because he he fake basketball star going to college. I'm like, listen, fuck all that s**t. This is where the money at. And nobody wanted to be a rapper in Philly because this before it is now, this before the rapper was king, this before that, you know what I mean? Everybody was a street. I was, I was a visionary. You know what I mean? No, straight up. So, but, but, but I want to say this back to your situation. Like, like what game could y'all get a young ins? Cause y'all know you see it in Philly. Philly is a talented place, but Philly is also a place of like every city, you know, we got, you know, people always looking for somebody to blame and everybody's entitled. Yeah. You start rapping on January 1st. You think everybody pulls to post you and supports you on January 10th. You just, you're hot. You're the hottest in the city. That's everybody thing. What state you got to write the Philly at your home. You got to write the Philly at, but it's, but it's not back then and it's not when y'all done it. It's, it's, it's 20,000 rappers. Right. So what game can y'all give them about moving in the industry? Cause both of y'all to make mistakes or say it, think whatever. Man, I would tell them right that a lot of times s**t just ain't that serious. You know what I mean? And if, and if you got some real motherfuckers around you, some real motherfuckers around you, they never going to tell you to take the crash out. You feel what I'm saying? They always going to tell you to take the smarter lane. And sometimes the worst, the worst things that be around rappers or entertainers or basketball players or any motherfuckers that God bless with the talent to be able to make it out is he got the wrong f**king friends. Always the answer. You know what I'm saying? It's always the answer. He got friends that they don't make it about him and his talent. They make it about what they can get out of a n***a or, or, or what's the best situation for them. So a lot of times, man, you know, you got to put the right people around you. Like beans just sit here and told y'all, we probably never went through that s**t that we had had n****s like y'all around doing what y'all doing. You feel what I'm saying? I told you calm this s**t down. But we didn't. We, let's be for real. We were street n****s with street n****s around us. Yeah. You feel what I'm saying? So a lot of times when it's, when it's those situations, it's always going to be a dark cloud over your head. You got to surround yourself around the right people, people that want to win in life, the people that want something for themselves, the people that understand that this is a team together, each achieve more, the people that understand what the goal is and what the objective is and the people that understand that if I'm on the team and my job is to take motherf**king offense of thousands and rebounds, then that's what the f**k I do. I don't take 15 shots. So that's, that's the biggest thing I could say. What was the biggest problem for probably both groups, you know what I'm saying? We ain't had to write n****s around telling us to do the right s**t. And then if we did have somebody around telling us to do the right s**t, I'm going to take accountability. We might didn't listen. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You feel what I'm saying? So sometimes while I always say this, man, the best thing you could do is, is, is listen when you win it. You feel what I'm saying? See n****s listen when they lose because they trying to get to the money. But then when they get to the money and they, they, they, they won in life, they feel like they know everything now and now they, they close their ears. So that's the biggest thing to do is listen when you win it. But I'm going to say this, like, at the end of the day, it's like, a lot of people, because I look at y'all, what y'all did? Because y'all imagine, because a lot of people talk about they can't do this, they can't do that, they can't do this. Y'all did it before social media. Yeah. It wasn't no social media. None of that. Y'all had people, y'all would get in front of people in it and impress. I'm so glad. Y'all had to oppress one or two people. It wasn't no, I got a, y'all only had to press one or two people still got in the game, you had a lengthy career, all that stuff. Yeah. Now a lot of people, they hold thing is, oh, it's gatekeepers, gatekeepers. You got this. It ain't no gatekeepers. Yeah. It's not like somebody can stop. You can build your own career on this shit. So what, like, like at the end of the day, what game could you give them? Because everybody still, people still, every city, everybody complaining about somebody blocking them. And then I always ask a guy, you know what I mean? I always ask the artist, right? Thy ticket, Lady Jennifer of Coolidge. Well, many thanks. Good sir. Here is my discover card. They accept discover at Renaissance fairs. Yeah, they do here. Discover is accepted at the places I love to shop. Get it? With the times. With the times. You're playing the lute. Yeah. And it sounds pretty good, right? Discover is accepted at 99% of places that take credit cards nationwide. Based on the February 2025 Nielsen report. When they say somebody blocking them at this time of the month, who the fuck is you talking about? What goes? Who, what makes you that important? And then I always ask them, is you really hot enough? Because when you hot, can nobody stop hot? Y'all had a time where as though you didn't even have no internet, nobody even had phones on them. But motherfuckers found y'all. Yeah. You had to be who you said you was. You had to be who said you was everything now, like even with the phone, you know, people, they wear costumes. And that's what I would say to the bro, take the costume off. Take the costume off. Just be you. Just be you. Just be you. Good, bad, and different. But listen, and hold yourself accountable. The worst thing a nigga can ever do. Well, he can't do that. But it's try to lie to the nigga in the mirror. Can't lie to the nigga in the mirror. All you got to do is look in that mirror. I'm gonna say this. I told I've seen beans in the studio three, four years ago. I'm like, we was not that part was like four, you play always get ass music. Beans, we're living in an era now. Because I always be on your a time I see you. I be on a lot of dudes when I say I'm like, what the fuck with bro, we're living in an era where the over 40 club is getting in over at Rocky Marciano, West Side Gun, Benny the butcher clips. Everybody get like, kiss still get everybody. Everybody still why are you not putting no music out? I was done with music for what I was done. You got a cat, you a tour of your catalog. Yeah, but I was somewhere else though. Okay, why? A few different reasons. Um, spiritually. Okay. Number one, that's the first and foremost, like really trying to like, not lie to that nigga in that mirror. You know, I was at that time, you know, when I thought the solution was going to be my last album. That's why when I when a solution just listen to the song their self, can I talk to you? That's me checking myself when you listen to that record. It just I was a young boy. I came from something that where a man word was everything. Yeah. Everything. So that's how I came into the game. You got this how I supposed to be. Then when you find out that you was misused or mishandled and not to a point where it couldn't be fixed because you can make something right by not letting it be wrong or more. And that wasn't when you when you it was like all that shit was just like I'm done. Okay. What was the next? What was the next? It wasn't no plan B. Like what the music shit? It was too fast. I was catching too many cases. Let me ask you a question or a realistic question. You know, um, if I if I if I put you on or I put beans on right now, if you win as you, if you lose as me, that's the that's the whole journey of a manager, a CEO, whatever. Do you, are you able to look at this rap game and say take accountability, have the conversation with the man in the mirror and say, I fuck my career up or the industry fucks your career up. Oh no, I fuck my shit up. Okay, cool. All right. So so now when that's the question, I know I was tripping. Okay. Like when I sit back and look at a lot of the shit that I done or allow to have happened on my watch, tripping, tripping out. It was a lot of shit that I uh, what you would have did different? What's the main things you would have did different? Because some of these artists need to hear it because they, you know, the money come, don't nobody want to listen. They got it all figured out. The main like looking back. Yeah, what's the main things you did that's fucked up like that that fucks your whole career? Learn what I'm doing. Learn what I'm doing. A lot of they just doing it. Everybody rap, learn the business. If I'm going to be a rapper, I suppose to know every way I suppose to get paid, what I supposed to do, you're supposed to know all those things. Yeah. I would, I would have learned what you're doing and then figure it out. Because if you don't, you just got expensive hobby. There's all that shit calls. All that shit calls. That's a vicious. I ain't never hear that one. That's a hell of a expensive hobby. You got expensive hobby. You gotta pay for everything. Studio time marketing. If you plan it, you ain't serious. You got expensive hobby. Stop playing. Stop lying to yourself. Damn, that's crazy. Yeah. I like that. Being on Instagram is expensive hobby because you got to say it so much. That's a hobby. That's because everybody fraud on there. Yeah, you got to fake it. That's shit. Like the arm. You could be all you could be. Yeah, that's your own. That's your own difference. It's definitely expensive. But like, I think we live in the world now. No, just skip past that. Instagram is like the army. You can be all you can be. Be all that you can be right here on the gram. Because you gotta look at it, bro. Your phone. That's Comcast. Yeah. So Instagram is Comcast. Yeah, page is a network. Everybody trying to get everybody to look at the network. Yeah. Whether you got HBO, cinema, whatever, all that shit. That's cable. Let's keep it real. Most of these bitches got porn hub. They perform it. Yeah. That's the station. What's that other joint you use? XXXN. What's that? What's that? What's that? XXXNX and some shit. Ain't looking at it in a while. Forgot it. What? That's another story. It's a porn site. It's a crazy site. Yeah, but no, but no, no, you write about that and it's like the sad thing about life out of the 8.2 billion people on the planet. Uh, everybody's not talented enough to be a star or have to know how, because you don't have to have talent. You gotta know how. And I think we live in a world now where it's so fake that you can't even say statements like that without, oh, you tearing somebody dream down. No, I'm not tearing nobody dream down. You can't tear nobody dream down if you really got it. If that's really a dream. If you got it. Man, fuck what they talking about. You're not even going to hear that if you really got it. Because, you know, there's a lot of people out here. They just want to be popular to be popular because like, Oh, I just want to be on. I'm going to be known. I've been, I wasn't known my whole life. Nobody never paid attention to me. You know what I call them? What? That's them brandy ass niggas. I want to be down. They just want to be down. It's something he's down. What? No, they just want to be down. And that's the in the way. They just, let's, I ain't, I ain't going to front. That's the in the way. It depends what happened because when I told Gil, you're good. You got to get, you're going to be a star. He just wanted to be down. That's why he wasn't getting paid. I ain't giving you money. All the time I got the little joints. I go behind the joint, get my little, my little not, get him a little pizza, my little cheese, take money. I told you, I need to stop laughing at this. No, I'm just saying, cuz, cuz you can do it. Listen, cuz, cuz listen, if I was out this motherfucker, you know, if I was out this joint, you would have listened. You would have been on them fucking big stages, man. You would have made a kid. How to keep this shit out. You would have made it, man. I had your movies with a little hole in the wall of Alabama. I fucked up all the information. Like, oh, he robbed me. I just, I used to be up nighttime read Donald R. I look bare book and this is going to studio tomorrow. I'll be telling him, no, don't do that. You don't need to do that because publishing is this. Don't worry about that. What's publishing. Listen, publishing is just how you get, you know, food when you want to or like just, like, just, like, don't worry about it. I'm going to have your brother. One thing about me, dog. I'm chatting GDK. Fuckers. You took my information out. Now, nigga, back in the day, I had you on dummy status, nigga. When you saw my piggy ring, you were like, yeah, I'ma listen to whatever you tell me. Why? Because you were listening to all that bullshit. I was saying me summertime. Because my first deal with Tony Draper. Nigga, I was in jail by the nigga. I'm telling you, when I had you as an artist, I would have found out. I had you in the contract. Nigga, dog, dog, it wasn't that long before you went to jail when I went to. Shut up. You signed your fucking contract. You got booked right before. Listen, yeah, right before I'm to be, but listen, you got to think about this. TV was screaming to the self right here. That's what you got to think about this. You got to think about this. I had that nigga shot, signed his first deal and shoot plus buying the niggas. Sneakers on area where shoot plus area. You know how they had this shoot plus area. I had him. I had the niggas sign his first day. I'm getting his joins. I'm like, go and sign the papers. He signed the joint. I got a two pair Ratchie's that nigga sold his life. He gave me his life. I could have really put a cease and this is my little I could have put a cease and this is one of your first contract niggas. Three years younger than you buy. I could have filed a cease and this is because you were on the game. 17 he was under Sammy Sam. Sammy Summertime production company. You was under my shit. NJ. I could have put a cease and this is on that fucking deal you had. I owned your publishers and everything. I was getting I was getting your likeness back in the day. trademark your name all that shit. I had all that shit in the contract. I owned you. Yeah. So while let me ask you something. Go ahead. When you was booked with did you see all this man? I was up Dallas. We had BT when that shit hit. Right. I'm talking about like like your whole everything because I see you like you this my plan. Listen, this will happen. Listen, when I was in dollars, when I got locked up, I'm watching this whole shit happen. I go to jail. Gil doing the shit. He kept going. I'm just happy he kept going. But as I'm in jail, and dudes coming to jail, they rapping a rap. They tell my I'm like, who? Because I'm just doing my time. He know I'm a time machine. So when I go to jail, just bit. I don't got to reach out to people and all that shit. So so so people coming in, rapping a rap, rapping, rugby, rookie, running rubble, done, done, done. They're like, oh, I'm like, that's who that's major figures. I'm like, yeah, yeah, I'm just telling dudes, yeah, that's my group, man. Get the fuck out of here, man. It's like I started them kids, right? So they like, get the fuck out of here. I'm like, everybody thought I was lying. So my one rest in peace, my cellmate, Rick at the time for me. So so we in the cell, we come from the yard. Cedar was on. I think Cedar, you remember Cedar, the cartoon lady on BT? Cedar. Cedar. Yeah. But the video, come on. Yeah, that's us. So I'm in the drum break, getting shot. I'm like, damn love. I'm like, I know them niggas, right? Yeah. I see this nigga. I'm like, I see space. Look at here. Tic, tac, toe. I'm like, what the fuck? Because I'm like these niggas. What you thinking like, they took my shit? So I go, I go to the table. I'm going to come, Rick, Rick, come here, Rick. Look. No, I ain't no nothing. They still, that's my, that's my group. So I'm like, I'm like, yo, that's my shit right there. Look, that's cuz he like, Rick, like, man, the fuck I don't know them niggas. You was in jail, man. Shut the fuck up, love. Because that's how I reeked talk. We was a bit. So I'm telling niggas, niggas, all y'all, when Gil got on a fucking basement, I never forget that shit. The next day, because he said, no, this is starting my cousin while on jail, free while low, but when they start, the niggas was a joss. I told y'all, nigga, I make stars. I went around and yeah, I make stars. Tell niggas in the jail, man. Yeah. I mean, I make stars, nigga. Fuckers. I made them. So that's why every time you see this kid, right, he didn't even know who he was. He was a bum ass basketball player that was going to a no, no league college. He was a loser. He was a fucking classical. This dude was a loser. I made him a hot shot. He didn't know what he wanted to be. I said, listen, kid, you're gonna be a hot shot. I know dude was dumb ass. It's up there. You're gonna be a fucking hot shot. No, straight up, straight up because listen, let me tell you something. A lot of these kids, they didn't know what they was doing. He told me this nigga, listen, he told me one day we have been in his college, he says, yeah, man, I'm going to the league. I said, what fucking league? What league did you talk about? Like the fucking Utah, but the boys and girls club league, this nigga, I said, you're too short, but the fuck are you going to do? Right? So I'm like, I'm going to make you a star. Now that fuck all that. The nigga was, nigga was short in the spud web. So I said, listen, man, kid, listen, I got some, I got a better life with you, better direction and what, what happened? See, a lot of y'all don't understand. I make fucking stars. I made this kid a star, man. He didn't believe in yourself. You didn't believe in rap. You didn't believe in rap. I believe that you wanted more than you did. I put my career to the side and became management. Let me ask you a question. So when the break up was happening, let's talk about a beauty must have. Batiste dry shampoo. It's the award winning number one dry shampoo in the U S and worldwide. And honestly, it earns the hype. Batiste instantly refreshes your hair by absorbing oil and grease, leaving it cleaner looking with added volume and texture. You get that fresh blowout look without the blowout price. In fact, Batiste works better than the leading competitor, even compared to brands that cost up to twice as much. A cult classic for a reason and perfect for all hair types. Grab Batiste dry shampoo online or in store at your nearest retailer today. Was it, was it, was it hard to pick what he was going with? When the break up was happening with Rockefeller? No, I wasn't even thinking about who I was going to go with. I just didn't want it to happen. Like it was, I ain't even, I never thought of it. Like I knew it was going to happen. Did you see it coming? I knew. Like I had conversations with Jay. I knew it was coming. But Jay was like, I'm done. It ain't working. It wasn't working. It wasn't working. They shit wasn't working. And it was things that was being done from our conversation. This wasn't working out. What I'm working in was, was it can be in the president? One of the big things? No, no. I think that was something that was inside one of the big things. But I don't think that was, how was your relationship? You and Cam A thing was cool. Yeah, but we ain't really get a chance to mesh like I wanted to with Cam, because it was too much bullshit. Okay. Now in that situation, I'm a Philly nigga. And I'm looking at a, to me, in my perspective, a Brooklyn Harlem thing I'm full. So I got my business. Yeah, it ain't nothing to get finished. You out of town? Yeah, I got my business. And that's what I think what was happening with like, with Rockefeller. Like it was like, in my perspective, my POV, I started seeing like a Brooklyn Harlem thing like happening. But that wasn't my business. That's deep. I feel you. Yeah, man. I just, I just think like, you know, everything, everything happened for a reason. You know what I mean? And it's like, what you did legendary in the fucking books. Fractual is not to go with either one. Oh, okay. Well, so you ain't go with either one? Oh, no, I didn't want to. Yeah. I was gonna go with 50. Oh, what? 50 was trying to sign you? Yeah. What type of deal 50 try to give you? Something crazy. What was it? If I can remember, it was something like I don't know, probably around like 10 million. Not me per se to myself, but he wanted, he had everything structured. Man, I was, I was in the feds with his uncle. So we used to, you know, we had a couple visits we used to set at the same time as uncle go out and make sure we sit in the cell. I could talk to 50 Rockefeller dissolve. So 50 was gonna be my a Beanie Seagal album. It wasn't no more company. If I could have got freeway. And I think he said, Chris and Neve, but it was gonna be a state pro my single album, freeway album, a state property, gene album, me and 50 album. It was like five albums, but the deal was structured like probably like 10 million. That's major. Now, what happened with the clothing line? Damn it. How did that come about? What happened with it, man? High dissolved. Yeah. Like, but first of all, how it come about? Because it was hot. Yeah. The pockets. How did it? A lot of the pockets and stuff that like, that we had on the clothes, we used to do it in the street. Yeah. Like it was what you used to do in the street with us. So I'm when I'm thinking of a clothing line is like state property. It was like state probably was the hustlers there. Yeah. Like you wore that you outside. Yeah, you got your pack, like a mortgage, you got your pistol. It was like a uniform. So that's what I thought. I'm like, like uniform this joint, like no matter what, every winner you gonna buy a new state property joint because it's like the war. Like you said, the whole Dickie Carriard joint double state property. So the pockets, I just, when I seen them doing rockerware, I approached them. It's like, yo, I want to start a clothing line. That's what I wanted to be called. I wanted to be like this and show me stuff and state property came up. How much money did it make? It made a lot of money. I only had 20% of state property. Okay. But it made it made some grip. You got a bag. You was getting you was making more money off of the clothes than I was off the music. You was catching crazy checks. Yeah. Bam. How much? What was the biggest check you got from this shit? I think like we was getting paid every quarter, every three months. So I was probably making anywhere between the smallest check that I seen was like three and some change. And like the biggest check was probably like out and one season I think I had like almost 700. But I was seeing them joints threes, four, sixes, threes, four, these joints popping. Like they coming eight, three months is boom, it's dead. You're going crazy. And it was growing state property sold more than rockerware. And that's them threes and sixes and them four, that was my little 20%. That's what I was getting. And they play solid with you. Make a night. Well, kind of sort of. Oh yeah. But listen, all right. But but but how did it dissolve? What the fuck happened? So when I went to jail, it gave me time to sit back and think about everything because it was like, damn, I'm sitting in the cell. I'm like, I fucked up. Yeah. So that's my whole my whole outlook was like, damn, I fucked up. Like because I got them fighting an attempted murder. So even if I got a dub is over because career done, career done. And I could have walked. Like if I got if I got booked for that attempt and took the deal, I probably be just coming home right now. Dang. And I was in 2000. Yeah, that was what I caught that case in 202 2002. I probably just be coming home. That's crazy. Trying to come on right now. Not shit. Yeah, but I was, yeah. It was, you said, no, you was thinking about it and it dissolved the company. When I said when I said I started, it gave me time to reflect on shit. Now I'm shit getting tight because I got to pay for everything. Thas don't give a fucking about none of that cash, none of that. They want assets in order to get bell. So they putting liens on everything. So you're like, I got to sell this 20% No, I ain't sell it. I wasn't touching that. I did every I paid for all my shit. All my personal money. Like nobody paid for nothing. I got one loan from rocker father for like a buck 50 because I was expecting a $400,000 check coming. But I paid that back. So that all my Lord man, I spent like probably four million fighting. You would take the fuck up. You was getting money out my own people. Yeah, I spent I paid for that shit. And then bills didn't stop. Oh, nothing stopped. You know, how long was you locked up? I was I got I did a year in a day on that because I wanted to beat and attempt the murder. But they retried me again. But I did it. I did a year in a day. But I was on house arrest for most two years fighting it. So for three years, I ain't make no income. I was sitting on an ankle monitor for like 18 months straight. And I was in there and I make no bread. But when your bills 40 a month, 60. And that's like your bills. Yeah. And you ain't talking about everybody else. I took care of everybody. So I ain't make no paper, but it constantly went out. So that's how they socket to my pocket. As you said, yeah, they was draining me. They was killing you. Yeah, they were smoking me. They were smoking me. Do that to you. And my fears were in the order. Like with the late like my shit was like, told you, I did the publishing deal dummy. When I came home and found out it was money owed to me from the clothes for state property. I knew they couldn't put out no more clothes without my signature. So instead of me, just letting the money come in and weren't about it as it go along. Hardheaded. I'm in jail. Shit ain't right. Y'all bullshit. I stopped. They needed my signature to keep manufacturing closed. So I wouldn't sign off one night. That's the worst mistake I think I made. Yeah, because you're the came home to a grip. They still had to make your money. Yeah. Even though I was older grip. Right. They still were. But I stopped. I stopped my own people. Right. And you could always took them to court and got that. Yeah, but I don't know. So I wouldn't have never did that. So beans, how much money? But I mean, would you say like then like I had to take the L and that's my position. Like I've taken a company to court to get some money that they owe you is not like not one is your family. But not when it's presented as your family. Okay. All right. Yeah. Well, your mom was at your mind. Okay, but hold on. Let me ask you. No, these this was so it looked familiar. Yeah, this was the team. Okay. But it looked up. Right. He looked up right in and Wayne and baby came in the game together. Yeah. Wayne had to take baby to court for that 52 million. I can't take this on the channel. Get fuck how much family. Yeah. But that's just that's just that was my mindset. If we was if we was that much of family, they could probably have the buddy you I don't know. I guess I'm just different, man. See, I'm lucky a real nigga do it again. And I know I'm always gonna be able to do it again. I always put myself in the position to earn. Like when you at one point I fell into a state of depression and then I was depressed and so I came out of it because I felt as though I fucked up for everybody else, not myself. So me, myself, I couldn't have took them to court. Like at that time, I couldn't have did that. Like, but if they had been like, you know, they got 14 million of your money. And you like, damn, I don't even know how I'm gonna pay my motherfucking bills. Well, it was like that. Can I get my money? And it's like, oh, could this vintage store be any cuter, right? And the best part, they accept discover. Accept discover in a little place like this? I don't think so, Jennifer. Oh, yeah, huh. Discover's accepted where I like to shop. Come on, baby, get with the times. Right. So we shouldn't get the parachute pants. These are making a comeback. I think. Discover is accepted at 99% of places that take credit cards nationwide. Based on the February 2025 Nielsen report. No, you burnt. It's like that. My voice like get fire insurance. Yeah, smell it. Yeah, smell it. You burnt, buddy. But that was the old me. The new me now. Yeah, I want mine. Absolutely. Yeah, I want to give it to my kids. I don't want to die. Then y'all throw the kids a bone because you know niggas do that like that. No, let me give it to them. I want mine. Let me get that. Yo, what's up with the publisher? You get that free. Oh, you all listen to working, you know, sometimes you gotta move under the radar. Yeah, I'm coming for everything. You're getting all your show. Yeah, everything. Everything. You need to play him. Masters and anything. Everything. You know, I want all mine. Because when you when I was in that mold, and I know people was banking for me to stay there, you know, I mean, I push a fucking button quick. Good, bad, like I'm just the same nigga. So when it's like, fuck me, fuck that. I ain't never been in no tabloids or none of that shit. You ain't never had me like IRS because I don't got no at that time. I had no uncle named Sam. So I want to pay him taxes. Yeah, but all that shit is like all that shit straightening out. I ain't just sitting on my hands. That's why I got Santucci's. And I'm popping off. Yes, you see it. Make sure you all visit this university city, university city, university city. Yeah, Santucci shout out the news to man. The news man doing this thing. Shout out the brother news. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, fuck that. I'm roasting brother news. I'm bro news. He told you he was corny, but he I know he did a lie he was on he spent a lot of that motherfucking all that paper with you. No, what? Well, no, no, he told you he was corny, but all them rock the laws and shit. He was weighing man. No, we ain't gonna do that. He was getting free rock for lords. I know he was. Let you do that to my little big brother. Damn news was saying that corny shit. His news already had paper. I know that's what I'm saying. He was like, man, fuck it. You know, my little buddy always had paper. He always was getting to it. He was saying, fuck that. I'm in front of news. I'm on this half half a P back in the day. I'm just playing. No, give that back when Gil was on the meatballs. He was doing a ball. News put me on JC. Yeah, you had a fucking you know, I did but that wasn't my I'm listening to big at the time. Damn, he put you like I'm big doubt. Big was first though. So right when I started like even like playing with the rap, we hustling. Why don't want to hear that music shit? Yeah, we doing it. You know, sometimes you got you got ease. Yeah, got easy. Yep. So, you know, when we did the the full truck grabbing roll, this was already getting built out. No shout out to the Santucci family to, you know, give me the brother's opportunity. Mr. Frank. Yeah, because this is family business right here. Absolutely. And we the first, you know, outside of the family was a and we plan on doing a lot of big things with Santucci. Yeah. Some of the best pizza around. Hey, man, listen, I just my slogan is I just want my slice of the pie, even if it's square. Home of the original square. Home of the original square. Yeah, I mean, ours is square. Yeah. Yeah, square pies now. Ain't nothing wrong with that. Yeah. Beans, man. We appreciate you. Appreciate you coming up, man. Yes, I'm still helping you know. Yeah. No, you're a legend, man. You're a legend. No, because the course is calling and your Chevy Equinox can take on whatever the day throws at you. Stylish and ready for anything Equinox handles your commute weekend trips and even those last minute tea times easily load up your clubs and gear with plenty of cargo space plus hidden storage under the rear floor to keep things neat. 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Look, look, the nigga don't over. I'm high as a giraffe ass. Now I know if me joint the whole table sitting in pit bosses mad at me. Look, so I'm sitting on the joint. I shoot the dice. He go number. You loving it. You loving it. Let him sleep. Listen, listen, listen, no bullshit. Like 12 numbers straight. He was bucket. Shoot the dice. I said, you know, when I joined hit you, you like, I said, oh, yeah, about this. Yeah, that nigga was taking eight. I be picked today. So he was taking 45 seconds of talking. Listen, this is like beach. You got the dice. Yeah. Number. He'll be see him getting paid. He go back. Y'all know I was out loud. I was like this. Mack. I'm playing the catch. I'm getting the money in the right. The guy I'm like, damn, I had like 13,000. He had them one like 60. Let me tell you something. I do not like being at the crap table with him. Why? Listen, he's almost some I'm walking through cosmopolitan. This our spot. I'm going through there. So I'm going to the food parade, get some joint guilt. I'm like, come on, love, come on over here. Right. Come on. Get it. Cause me, I mean, I come over there, put some shit on, sneak eyes and all that shit. I'm just chilling. Right. This motherfucker, he hot. This time he hot. Gil got a good. He probably got a good like 12, 15,000 over there. Right. He hot. This motherfucker, getting to the argument with the people, because they're like, yo, man, calm down. He like, no, I'm ready. Shut this motherfucker down. Right. Oh, listen, no, no, no. He like that. I'm like, Gil, you just won 5,000 man. What the fuck is you talking about? They will be bankrupt when I'm done. I'm like, cause you got, you got a hard 7, 7, 500 rules like chill, man. The fuck is you doing? So I'm like, man, I'm grabbing my seat because I'm like, he draw didn't get to do it. Like, yo, you got to calm down. No, don't tell me what the fuck do my money. I'm like, cause that shit ain't no money right there, man. You got an agent boy sitting there with like 300,000 with it. What the fuck is you doing? Yeah. No, don't tell me. No, I got this. I'm shutting this bitch down tonight. I'm like, this nigga, he got to have the eight ball up in what he was better. He was better. What? Yeah. The eight ball. He good for having a ball up in. Why are you keep trying to put the ball? He ain't no new. He was here. He could, we go to base. He can eight boy. He go, he go, holly, holly, Pauly, oh, he Pauly, give me one of me. He's the eight ball. He, he'd be familiar all night. And he go crazy. You went crazy. Cause that's your joint. You did. That's why I'm fucking gamble with it. But listen, beans, man, we appreciate having you know, man. You're a legend, man. Fuck it. Gilly ate the eight ball came the eight ball. I do that to girl, man. He love it. This nigga.