Buju Banton DEBUTS “Butterflies” + talks Jamaica’s hip hop roots, dancehall history & summer tour w/ Stephen Marley

No gloss, no filter, just stories, spoken without fear. A person who is not generous cannot be an artist. The world will be at peace only when it is ruled by poets and philosophers. Listen to my weekly podcast, the puja bhajjo on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Come for the honesty, stay for the fire. So these are some of the songs we're coming forward with, to reignite a passion musically and not to try to outshine that, although because wherever we'll be in the sun, nevertheless as elders of our race make sure that the road still paved, the food and trouble free and the music flow consisted. Yeah, yeah, what up y'all? This is Joe Crack the darn. You know who it is, your boy Jaden Kis. This is the Joe and Jaden show, every show legendary, every show iconic. Speak slow for him. We crushing your ass off. Pow, pow, pow. Today's guests. Yo Courtney, I tell you we be the biggest. I told you that shit. You know it, you know it. When you think of today's guests, you think of evolution. You think of big tombs. You think of sold out arenas. You think of realness. You think of respect. You think of power. You think if you're trying to make a hit, if somebody you definitely need to call, you can help you out with a phone call. Ladies and gentlemen, hold up. Let me keep going. Let's go. He's the goat. Lion. To say the least, the lion. Strong like lion from starting. The lion, he's the goat. Nobody fucking with Bujjabana. Yeah, call them dog and mad. Ten year hiatus, come back, sound brand new. Twenty years old. Nobody fucking with Bujjabana. That not allowed to be in the States and still run the States. Never been done before. Let's go, Jamie. He kicked them out of the United States and he still was able to run, have it in a chokehold. Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise. You can call them dog and mad. Dog and mad. Call them Bujjabana. The dogs. Not to him respect. Fuck, fuck, fuck. Big respect to Fat Joe. Many, many years of friendship. Big respect to J.Darkis. Likewise. Thanks to you guys for having me on your program and the podcast. It's a pleasure. Honour. Honour. Fucking Bujjabana. Don, they do like that. We doing shit, man. That shit ain't no normal shit. We had Michael Jordan yesterday. Now we got fucking Bujjabana. Bujjabana time. This ain't a game right here. Step by step brick by brick with building. You know, everybody, I know you're humble. I know you show everybody love and respect, but ain't nobody Bujjabana times. I don't give a fuck. Nobody. Who it is. It's couch. It's royalty on the couch. Yeah, nobody's Bujjabana time. The Don Cargamel sister, 90s, all the way to now, the biggest. You went on tour. You went aboard an airplane. You came back. I never seen nobody like, yo, Bujjabana, let me tell you something. Bujjabana left when the money was real good. No, no, no, no, no. Bujjabana left when the money was real good. He came out, Joey was money, Joey. I said, yo, Bujjabana, where you going to get to next thing? I know a month later he's in, he bought his own airplane. I said, yo, Bujjabana ain't got no fucking airplane. He got right to it. He got right to it. Yo, Bujjabana, I love you, my brother. I love you too, brother. Yeah, Joey's right. I came home, touched business. I feel my friends on the most important question, couple of questions, like, how are you, how to find me next question? Where the money at? Where is it? What's going on? What's going on in the industry? What's going on in the world of what we know and use it business? What's going on? He's right. Yo, Bujjabana, you know, it was a guy in Africa, a fake guy, used a Bujjabana, a Bujjabana name, you know, I dissed him on TV. That was when I was hosting the, what was it, the Wendy Williams show? Shut him down, he changed his name. Yeah. I tell him there's only one Bujjabana town, the Don Gaga, Mel, this, that. TV went back to Africa, the guy changed his name. Now he's X-1312 or something. My fucking change his name. I don't play that shit. Fuck that. You know, like, most people, they get the name from their friends. They get the name from, you know, some stupid shit and people name them. My name came from my mom. Yeah. So it wasn't a name given to me by my friends. And I took the name Bantan, due to my adoration for Buur Bantan and his musical delivery in the dance hall, you know, because ever so often we have to keep reminding the people that there's a distinguished difference between a DJ in Jamaica and a DJ here. And then DJ here's the guy who plays the music, the DJ in my country's guy who hold onto the microphone and talk on the version. Yeah. Speaks on the beat. So from those, he was Buur Bantan, you know, came to America made a name for himself. So Buur Joe came from my mom and the Bantan came from my adoration for his craft and all his display, his musical talent in the dance hall. So it's not something that is given to me by a friend, John, so on and so forth. So when a young man came and said the name Buur Joe, I knew the problem it poses because automatically most of the algorithms is run now faster and worse. And all algorithms start getting confused. They go into home's Buur Joe. So we had to regulate that to make sure that, you know what I mean? You have to find a new name. Yo, I did that shit on TV. I got a phone call, a silent phone call for somebody. So you did the right thing, Joey. Hung up the phone. I said, all right. I probably can't go to that part of Africa no more, but he said, I swear to God, I got a phone call. We got mutual friends. I love my friends. Call up and say, Joey, you did the right thing. Joe, I said, that's right. You know what I'm saying? We got to salute the Gargamel. The Gargamel and me go back 30 years, you know, putting that Yellowtail fish. He used to tell me all the time, Joey, you got to get slim, Joey. Joey, the fat Joey is not going to make it to the beauty. Yeah, yeah. He used to tell me this shit back in the day, eat fish, Joey. Joey, just eat fish, Joey. Joey, don't do this and this and that. He was the first guy talking that health shit to me back in the day. I go like this. I'll tell you one story, Courtney. I do Disney work. So I'm gangster rapper, whatever. I hit one out the park. What's love? Just white people loving me all over now because they know what's love. Like it's like I hit one out the park. So I'm doing Disneyland. So I do Disneyland and I bring Boudje with me. I'm like, yo, Boudje, come through. He come through. Boudje come out there. He start ripping it down. And then he starts saying, you know, Disneyland and allusion. These people, he's starting to shit on us. What? Turn the mic off. Turn the mic off. Please, Boudje, these people here, Joey. I'm like, yo, Boudje, please. So I've got many tears because once I land in New York City and you know, the whole damn everyone from the community knows that I am. My colleagues are broken out and the browns. My next is kind of like Joey crack. So you see a mercy. These Benz stay like this coming through a hotel. Big pun on that Benz effect. That's Joey. What you mean? Hi, Z. The car was leaving. What? I go one day. I go one day. Yeah, Boudje, you got it. So we have many good days. We spend most of the time in the studio working cool and dreary, B.J. Khalid. Yeah, I mean, all of his crew at the time. Big pun. Pond boss. You know what I mean? Those days, Jabba, 97 Jabba was around as well. Bobby Countess. We got to salute Bobby Countess and Jabba for holding out. What about David Levy? I never seen David Levy in my life. I never met David Levy. Me. No. We been fucking listening to him since we was babies. Fucking you, rocking you, rocking you, rocking you, rocking you. He's still around even when he does. No, he is. I listen to him still. And those people are quite instrumental and important to the development of the music and the growth of the Caribbean music on this side of the world. Yes. Even though they might have an hour, one day at a week, it was so important that everyone tuned in just for this hour. And it does grow now somewhat. You know, the advent of internet, you have internet radios everywhere. Spotify, you got all type of shit. But David Levy, back in the day, those guys paid the news. Oh, over time. Over, baby. Big time. These guys, they kept it true to reggae music since day one. Like who's some of the, what you know, you introduced me to big youth. Big youth. The legend. The legend. Big youth. Tell these people they don't know big youth. Big youth the first. Yeah. In fact, Joe hang out with big youth. Yes. Tell them, Bodjie. The dreadlocks down to the fucking street. You tell them, Bodjie. You fucking tellin' Jamaicans. You going, why plays wrong on me? Big youth. Yes. So we say hello. You know, because the Caribbean consists of many different nations, which Puerto Rico is a part of. And we're closer to the United States. Nevertheless, we see them as a part of the Caribbean region. So it's togetherness where we don't see anyone based on invisible borders which are designed geographically. Yeah. So the people of Puerto Rico, all other islands, you welcome them as long as Panama. We welcome them into our culture. That's just who we are, but to show them love. And you know, hanging out with Joe, hanging out with Pond, hanging out with all of his friends, being hanging out with my peeps, holding a good vibe, going to the club, shit go down in the clubs. We all stand up together. That's right. You know what I mean? No matter what. Yo, yo. We just want to let y'all know 1800 is the fish you to kill of, Joe and Jada. We doing it big right now. We keeping it 1800 the premier to Kila. And let me tell you something. This 1800 something special. What me and Jada get on that 1800 is fire. You can see we got the great special bottles. A staple known for craftsmanship and consistency. Yeah, I mean, 1800. 1800. Ah. Let me tell you something. I was scared to fly. So I knew budget when I was scared to fly. I had my first show in Jamaica. By the way, everybody talks budget on top like that. But everybody talks. Everybody say this. Everybody say that. Everybody says everybody that would just such a superstar. Okay. Okay. We, you wasn't there at that dinner with Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan was explaining to me the difference of a star and a superstar. But your bond can not eat in the Jamaican restaurant. But your bond can not be in the Jamaican section. If he goes to the store by the time he comes out, there's 1000 guys outside. There's nothing to do. Mark Anthony cannot eat in the Puerto Rican restaurant. He's not going to. Because these guys are super stars. So he used to escape the Jamaican community and hang out with the Puerto Ricans in the Bronx with us. Yeah, you know, if you knew him, you knew him. If not, you know, you know, it is what it is. He hanging out over here. Nobody harassing him. He could the go. You got bad bunny. Right. And bad bunnies biggest star in the world. And he's going, the Bronx Washington height is a direct. I don't know. You can be in Puerto Rico and say, young cause war burden up the next street over from Puerto Rico is the Bronx. There's just no way it's the next street in Jamaica, New York City. Well, maybe Miami too, but New York City, like he said, every week they listen in the Jamaican, the Da Vinci, the Bobby. It's just so direct. You come from Jamaica. You going to even a far rock away. You going to 233rd white plant. It's just too much of a direct Jamaican community is quite integrated in America. Nevertheless, New York has been good to us. And ever since the early years, the early advent of dance and music, traveling out of Jamaica, which was primarily to Canada, New York City. In those days, you self clubs like love people, whether you guys, maybe not even old enough to remember, but they might know love people. Like the underground with David Levy, Bill Moore Barroom, Jimmy's, Jimmy's, What Act 3? What? Yeah. And there was the Tilden Barroom, you know, Albany Manor. And there are so many places where the community would gather to express themselves and the music grows, you know. So we are all integrated and we are a player part, even though I mean a lot of people, you know, we start acknowledging our cultures with one multicultural melting pot. It started everything. So, you know, Jamaica started the Afro beats. We know everything come from Africa. Panama with El General. And Henelah started reggates home. Yes. You know, he cursed me out one day. Butch. Come on. I swear to God, I got to give it El Heledon. Me and Manu. He wanted big pun on the record. I told him $50,000. He told me listen, fat motherfucker, suck my dick. Fuck your mother. I'm in Heledon. I'm listening on the phone. I'm like, I'm dying laughing because I can't believe it. And Heledon is cursing me. I fuck you. I'm the legend of legends of Latinos that nerve you to charge me. I fuck you. I said, yo, I was a real motherfucker, boy. That's my nigga right there. You don't have to lie. What? Pum-pum, mommy, mommy, yo, baby. So, ever since then, you know, we've seen where it has also provided because it's expression, right? It's expression for those who would not normally get the same medium to express their inner feelings or the courage inside. We see where various nations from the Spanish-speaking communities start to adopt ever since then. So we find ourselves over here in our reportery called Friendself all over, various. I would love it. We appreciate it because you're taking our culture further. Like, many people might feel like, I mean, sometimes when I speak about these issues, they might get offended. But I was asking simply, acknowledge it. Acknowledge it from whence. You gotta acknowledge it. I said, you gotta acknowledge it. And that's the problem with, I think, this generation, or not even this generation or generations, it's right there. Don't lie to us and don't acknowledge it. Like, you know what you're doing. You know what you did. From everybody, you understand? Because there's something very spiritual about Jamaican music and Jamaica. There's something that transcends. When I'm in Germany and I see a white boy with fucking dreadlocks and Jamaican shit, the straight white man playing the fucking reggae shit all day, this is different. This is for such a small island to just go globally. They're Japanese Jamaicans. There's all type of Jamaicans. Everybody falls in love with Jamaica and the culture. You just gotta acknowledge it. I'm with you with that. I'm with you with that. You know, we had a legend pass away, big legend. Willie Cologne started South of Music with Hector Lavaux, who I think is the greatest of all time. And man, they did his funeral yesterday. He came out in the casket and they go, with thousands of people in the street. And I'm watching it on Instagram, and I'm like, man, they saluted them like a king. Live. Live. We lived. And so you know, there's legends. You know, Boudja, you come up. Who you come up? Shabbarang. That whole beginning era. I come up in the era when the music was turning, just turning. I come up when you have guys like Flora Gun, Red Dragon, that in Liza, Clement, I, Rippon Kido, you had an early block, dignitary stylish, general trees. Yeah? Nicodemus, Chakademos. Yes! Tolotii. I come up Admiral Bailey, major worries. In those days, major worries was like Petitja, Ferdijes. Major worries was a teacher for our DJs. Major worries was way ahead of his time. Major worries was the first one who taught us how to really flock to it and modulate the vice, like compute up and how to really, yeah? And after the major died, you know, Admiral Breakout, Shabbarang's Breakout. So then they became the next set of mentors that we have to look up to. But originally, Jamaican music, dance and music, was never ever something from uptown. Was always a road boy music, you know? The streets, uptown, you know? Rich people, like he saw them when they come from the streets. It was so much so that, it couldn't even let your parents know that you have musical aspirations. No, it's not. Because, you know, the people who represented us, bad boys, you know, every one of them in those days was singing about their experience that they had in the ghettos. Until the passage of time, things changed so much that the very music that was once despised, ridiculed and their children were admonished not even to play it or go near it, they started encouraging their children to become a part of that music. Now, bear in mind, we sang from our experience that it be hardship, gang warfare, political warfare, political tribalism, police brutality, you know? Woman, man on woman drama. We sing from our reality and we make that into something that other people can identify with, because for some strange reason, we might share the same experience but we never talk about it. Until someone sings about it and we can open this air because someone identified the elephant in the room. So come now, full circle, everyone sings about their experience but somehow we have lost a piece of what this really is, only really come from. I grew up in an industry where there was always the king of Dancer which was Yellow Man and it was the people who said he was the king, voted for him. And I didn't hear anyone say Yellow Man lost his crown because the man that keep the foundation is back. We might not even know a Yellow Man song to date. Many people might not even be aware of the ask by name of Yellow Man who made such a great impact on the Dancer community to bring it international before even ranking so after Yellow Man as our first international Dancer superstar, we had Shabba Rengs who followed him to food school to take the music further. What's my guy off legs? I'm a son of a fuck. And Matt Cabra as well. Matt Cabra rang off here. He was killing out here. The music was, we could identify him with songs. You ever find yourself just going through some things and you hear us talking to a man here for a time when you were in school? Big time. I remind you of something that happened when you were among your friends. They became time markers now. The music became time markers. We hope and pray that we remain the same for generations to come. Yes. So that reggae music and Dancer music can bring new adherence because when it come to a point where you no longer like a song, something is here as the album. Because we grew up thinking the only thing that never dies is music. Mm. And that's what we try to do. We try to preserve the culture. We try to give the kids an experience. And what's been coming on here lately, not like you, because like I explained when you came, you're like a Michael Jordan, you're a fucking goat. Nobody fucks with Bujibhanta. That's just it, period. Cream in the clout. You know, for you to sit there and say, you know, it's about expression. It's about passion. It's about, you know, music is therapy for us. A lot of times we go through shit. We got to go in that studio and get it off. And that's what it's really truly about. It wasn't just about chasing the check. 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Welcome to the neighborhood, a new community where everyone keeps an eye out for each other. Nothing's trying to stab some bucks. I think we need those scouts as boot. In this neighborhood, it's lawnmowers at dawn, as six real households accoled out for a quarter of a million pounds in this street-sized family feud. Don't come for the Scouts House and get away with it. My instant coffee's not good enough. Join me, Graham Norton, as I bring the drama to your doorstep in a new show like no other. The neighborhood starts Friday, 24th of April on ITV1 and ITVX. Bring on the ding-dong. One thing I never understood, and maybe you could explain me because this educational, is the Chinese Jamaicans. So from here, they had that, what do I do now? I want to hear about this. I'm shooting. Do you know about it? No. All right, so I want to learn. I want to learn. You got Chinese Jamaicans and big DJs out there, Jamaica, the Chin family, I believe they are. Like, so tell me how they become Chinese Jamaicans. Like, over the years, Jamaica's always been a place where various people migrated. So no doubt this is a family hybrid. However, that's not important to me in the grand scheme of things. What they did to me is more fundamental. They were visionaries who saw that the talent had the potential to be greater than just talent in the community. Hence, they invested Randy's record shop and they're recording studios and they invest in talent. They invest in the culture. And so we can't take away anything from them because they saw an opportunity and sees the moment. That's why they're still here today in Nandjomuka Avenue. I mean, a lot of people want to knock them out, do good business and you have a problem. You understand that? So we are concerned. We have to give them practice because they were visionaries. Now, to be told, we're a former prime minister. Edward C. Aguas also a musical producer who owned the press and planned the violin music and the rap apparatus and stuff like that. And then you have P.G. Patterson, we're a former prime minister again. We used to be the manager of the Claridonians and we have our current minister who's very much involved in youth sports and other kind of things. So we have a long history of working with the media and the top echelons of the country as it concerns development and music as well. But with the level in which the teams contributed their time, effort, money for the development of a music that could be here now and exposed a lot of our young people. But that was before at the same time we had Duke, Joe Roan, about the same time Duke Creed wasn't in a producer. Clemen Coxson Dodd wasn't in a producer. Winston Riley, King Tobi's and these were producers who were just making music. When these Cratch Perry, the gang, Bob Marley's them, P.D. Tosh, Peter Tosh, these guys were just making music from the ear, from the heart. Yeah, excuse me. So we went right here, we're the gentlemen after this thing which was what was the music business and what is the business of music. Silly at the do so. We'll render your poor forever. And we can take a look and turn the pages of history to see who will be able to separate the two. I stopped here. So you call Budgie music business and what's the business? You go away. Yeah, that's a Jadakiss line back there. That's a Jew right there. You come back, they show a picture of you in the airport just walking, like it was like Budgie, we followed every second when you came out. Like I remember I was on a flight and they say, look, Budgie, remember Joe, yeah, it was like your Budgie. They were viral everywhere. Even in Bandage, I think I spoke to you a couple of times while I was in Bandage. Yes, of course. The pin was real, yet weeping mean dual for a night, but Joy drew comment in the morning, right? So that Joy was undeniable, was not forced, was a real natural drawing and a Joy express. Not only by the will of the people, but by the will of the most God, because the vice of the people is the vice of which one, even God. No, I was able to catch a remix when he got up. Yes, we did it. Bless. Tell them so we bless. Yeah, we are Jadakiss where it was able to. But so right now in this dispensation, the new word has come into the forefront. The musical arena is this new album, by Boczabanton for the year 2026. Coming to you this summer, won't give you the title of the album as yet, but my first single is called Butterflies. No, Butterflies. It's not psychopathic. Ah, crazy. It's more something for the ladies then, because I find that our music primarily speak to a demographic's way. They'll feel like it's all about being a youngster and a rude boy, but there's, the ladies, they're more here with this love and affection. They need to be reminded that they're a part of our community and a very integral part of our life. So Butterflies aim to ignite, and reignite that passion. You follow me? Yes. So, how do I know to select a camp please? Do you want to boss the flames? We play to the release and butterfly. Bust the tune. Bust the tune. Bop, bop, bop. Select a yami. Put your butt on pundit and tall, you know. Pretty lady. Hi, baby. Coming on this couch. Well, any young you make, I feel Butterflies. I'm gonna love you for life. I feel Butterflies. I'm gonna love you for life. Oh, no! Put your butt on pundit and tall. So this one. What? This one is called Butterflies. Round you. From the brand new album. Hi, baby. Out the box. It's a reality. Well, any young you make, I feel Butterflies. I'm gonna love you for life. No doubt. I see potential in your eyes. I wanna love you for life. No doubt. Any young you make, I feel Butterflies. We love you for life. I'm trying. I see potential in your eyes. Let me love you for life. No doubt. Let's go. Tell me this girl. All your skin have blue and so your super curly fat. And this be a sweet. Pull up! Apparition. You're making now. This one is called Butterflies. How does love on the scene? Pull up on pundit and tall. No doubt. I feel Butterflies. I'm gonna love you for life. No doubt. I see potential in your eyes. I wanna love you for life. No doubt. Any young you make, I feel Butterflies. I wanna love you for life. I'm trying. I see potential in your eyes. Let me love you for life. No doubt. Listen. Tell me this girl. All your skin have blue and so your super curly fat. And this be a sweet. Pull up! Apparition. You're making now. Love you with passion. You're so convictious. Tell you all my drunken. Clearly it's obvious. I'm kind of sent to you. I'm never ridiculous. Give me that love with a sense. I'm fine. Any young you make, I feel Butterfly. I'm gonna love you tonight. No doubt. I see potential in your eyes. I wanna love you for life. I'm gonna love you for life. So, this is the first single produced by Super Dupes. You know Super Dupes, you know Super Dupes. Again, it's another bridge with Chinese heritage from the Jamaican community. Invested this time because of the Vasonic and Black Chinese. That was very popular in Jamaica. So, they merged and play in the sound system to make it beats in the studio. So this is Super. They have done many famous works. No doubt. Super Dupes is very acclaimed. Let's sound like Budgerbond. Well, this next album... That's Budgerbond, Chan. This next album is 100% Dancer. You know, sometimes, you know what I mean? I'm on start out, you know, the Dancer. But through the passage of time, we have to give the people the music that, you know, grow with them. Because you have life, you have experience. But you have to go back to the roots at that time. And not only go back to the roots, but to teach a generation. Because no one has any respect nowadays, you know. And if you wanna go out and flag everyone, that's how all of us are flagging. J-DOS who's one belt and beat everybody. Woo! One belt, man! You have to say that. But, Fondir Chan, so 20 years, some not a generation who will emerge and stay in 2 toes, 9 toes, 9 toes, 10 toes, 20 toes, 22 toes, and 25. This was reggae music and this was Dancer music. This is the history of it. No. Someone has to remind. A lot of people realize they are lazy. What it takes for us to make a proper song to come forward. It's like easy work. Some people wanna quick fix and get the glory. But true work at Standard Test at Stam starts with hard work. It's hard work. A lot of concentration, a lot of hard work. A lot of dedication. A lot of dedication. A lot of resilience. Some people they do it lucky. But when you wanna do that, because Budger Barnton never been whacking his life. I never heard a whacked song in my life. That song right there is out the park. That song right there sound like we just opened a CD of Budger Barnton's greatest hits and that just came on. That record right there is out of here. We'll tell you album promises to be exciting. Reinging from love togetherness. You know what I mean? In our style. In our hardcore root boy dance style. So this album, look forward to it. Excuse me, because the promises to be dynamic. Exciting. Fulfilling. Rewarding. And above all else, musical. You gonna hit some marines at the drop? Well right now we're planning on going to the summer. Budger Barnton and Steve O'Malley hit the road. Two lions in an effort to bring back the love that the music industry have and should have. And we're going out here in the month of June. June 18 should be on the road. And also to make sure that the masses get a whiff of this new record. By then it should be all the whole entire project should be released. This summer shall be late. To put it that way. It's out. Shout out. Steve O'Malley, a hell of an actor. You know what I mean? Kamani is with No, no, no, no. Who's Shotsis? Yo, fucking Kamani man. He should have did a bunch of more movies after that. Man, like he, that shit. Shotsis is classic. Without a doubt. Our exploration as a cancer curating the culture and film. Maybe that's the next era we need to start seriously before it is spread from our feet. There's a lot of culture vultures. Oh. The ties are changing where you can speak up for your people from the Latino perspective. I can speak up from a smart demographic for those who I am able for. Eventually the whole proposal should come together and farm our totem and become investors in our own arts. That is music, films, whatever, whatever, whatever. Because this is how other nations did it. We don't really figure out the blueprint yet because we still want to be better than the next person. Think nothing of it together, we can all be better. Yes. Talk slow too. Talk slow. Meaning to everybody if you're in cancer is that everybody could be successful. You need to be happy for your brothers and your sisters that are successful. This ain't all a straight competition. I got to be better than you or better than that. Be happy for everybody because the more of us this winning, the stronger we actually are as a culture. And so, a guy I'm a fan of from Jamaica's busy signal, this man for a long time, they know let him in America and they let him in and he went on that Bobby Condas and rapped for like an hour straight. I had to pull a car over. He fucked up the place so bad but I had to listen like, yo, this guy's doing this shit. Yo, this guy's crazy. He's a big, I never met him. I'm a fan. I've heard that busy signal come from the old school just like, yeah, yeah, it's the old school. When the last of you been on the highway, I hear the radio lit from that angle. No. Because first and foremost, I realize that the beats, they're not being utilized. So I'm asking myself, is it a situation where the beats are not being utilized because they cannot be utilized or because they cannot be written? I just think that pain are lazier now. What we're doing, we're losing a part. All right, there are certain beats when it comes on, it does something to you. You automatically want to play. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That is just new beat, this kid, Nick from Dramatical. The double YFL, why you feel like rhythm, the one I just played earlier, when I just came in. That's amazing, man. Bust it for me. Bust it for me. Big up, play it to your mark. Bust it one there. Extrimate it. So, we want music to make us feel and come alive no matter what we're going through. That's our escape. And if it keeps us trapped in our escape. It's always about the music. It's always about the beat. They just say, Yo Joe, why you rapping so good? The beat is great. We speak steel. Now, if you're doing a wack beat, then you'll be in there like, come on everybody, what you do that conga, you stuck like a motherfucking that motherfucking steel. So, these are some of the songs we're coming forward with. To reignite a paschal and a not to try to outshine that because we have what we're being the sun. Nevertheless, as LLAs of our race make sure that the road still paved, the smooth and trouble free and the music flow consisted. I'm not in the free, but I'm not totally away. But that way. You have to leave the youths them to them thing, you know. That's LLAs and OG. Some time I throw them out of my board too, you know. They know when the OG step up, they know who got it. Yes. Education purpose only. It's true, because the youth, they say, that's the Bond time. They're not crazy. They grew up their whole life listening to the Bond time. Trying to be the Bond time. You can't be the Bond time. So, it's like just take the experience. Your budget, let me tell you something. We always want somebody come home from jail, say Max B did 18 years. We expect them the first day to sound just like the Max B did. We lost 18 years ago. So, budget come out. You made great music and everything. But this project right here, you marinated enough since you've been out to where this is budget for the Bond time. I want to hear music and I can't hear it so I'm going to meet the music I want to hear. Wow. Talk slow. Wow. Boat, boat, boat, boat. Wow. And that's like you, because every time I bump into this guy on the road, he's playing the good music. And but they don't make that kind of music no more. So, I hear him, he's pumping on it. She's pumping this. I'm like, yo man, what happened to that fucking good music, man? To the fucking legendary music. And they just don't make it like that no more. So, you know what? You got to make it yourself. You know, do me a favor, James left the computer. We can start with Biggie, recipe. Jamaican. We can do Buster Rhymes. I need somebody to Google what is Jamaican? Heavy D. Heavy D, FIDs. Biggie Smalls. Yeah. Buster Rhymes. Muzanah. You know. Slick Rick, the ruler. Sean Paul's Jamaican. Joey Badass. Who? Son Pepper. Son Pepper, cool, hurt. Foundation. Bobby Schmurder. Triple extension. Shout out to his moms. We know them. So many people contributed to the hip-hop game. Uncle Lucas is part Jamaican as well. CJ Alamo from brand new meets. Wow. Alamo is your whip man. Bulk Can't Kip. All of them? That's how they was fucking with all that Jamaican music. KRS One. Ha! KRS One. Let me tell you something. What's his name? Cardinal LaFishard. Cardinal LaFishard, legend from Canada. Cardinal LaFishard, legend. Let me tell you something. The Ronto. Throwin' JadaShow.com. We got new merch. Fresh off the presses. Go get it. BAM! Throwin' JadaShow.com. You can get these. Little call for a t-shirt. With a hootie. It's my favorite money there. I need an extra large. Showin' JadaShow.com. Go there and get it. Nothing beats a Jet 2 holiday. Right now, we've got some great deals available. Plus, you'll get the best choice of rooms and hotels. But now, with just a £60 deposit per person. Enjoy flexible monthly payments. And now you can go direct from London Gatwick. Jet 2 holidays. Package holidays you can trust. Afternatal protected. Subject to availability in editions. K-R-S-1. See, when you was talking all that shit earlier, all I could think of was K-R-S-1. You say, teach, uh, Kingsloose crowns, teachers stay intelligent. This, and everything you were saying, I heard it in my head in a K-R-S-1 verse. Back in the day. And K-R-S, he attacked the juice crew. At this time, the juice crew was like, Sizzler, Bougibond, Tan, everybody together. These guys are like the Avengers. Like, they just, and they had the monopoly because their DJ ran the radio. Marley Maugh. If it wasn't coming through them, you was not hearing it on the radio. So they had that shit, like, Brested Peace, Tula, Fly Ty Williams. So K-R-S-1 gets into a beef with them. Me, who's a Bronx fan, I'm the biggest K-R-S-1 fan. I said, there's no way he could win. Like, I'm like, there's just no way he could win. And I'll never forget, it's winter. And this is the first time I heard Rage 8 music. It's winter. And DJ Red Alert says, brand new K-R-S-1, the response to the juice crew. And that shit came on, and that shit boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. When I tell you, he went like this, like the whole, the hip-hop game never even, the way he came, that bitch is over, that bitch is over, put it up, that bitch is over, that bitch, hey, hey, I start running around my projects. It was like below zero. Y'all! Yes, we won! I'm running around the whole projects. And so, K-R-S-1 introduced a lot of us into the reggae game at that time. Like, it was like, first time we really heard that, like that. And, uh, but, you know, he was Jamaican, so he knew DJ. Where was that? That was, wow, 80 something. 85, it irony. In 1985, 86, we in Jamaica started doing to be bop. Great dance. Was that thing in Jamaica in those days, where yeah, we used to have, um, fets. Like, schools used to keep events, they called them fakes. And various high schools used to keep them. Guys used to farm a circle, and go break dance, and then they'd be like, wow. But we used to have this, there was this particular, mixed state, slick rick, that was the first, like, Ta-da! Ta-da! Ta-da! Ta-da! Ta-da! Teddy Valley produced six minutes. Six minutes. Six minutes, Darjeel Franchi. Michelle Miles. So we broke. Just locking in those days too. Eight, five, nine, eight, six. We'll just start locking in. So funny you should say that. So it's proof to me that at the same time in two different locales the same thing was happening. Same thing, same thing, same thing, same thing was happening. Because I can also recall in 1985, I was watching a music video when it was Major Makhler, Chabarangs, they were in Biltmore Baroom. Biltmore Loon, it was this Major Makhler, Dan Mann. Major Makhler. Me, me, me, me, me. Dan Mann, yeah. Yes, so it is important to know that, yeah. You know, shout out Jamal ski. He was Jamaican to MCI here. He was fucking shit up for the Jamaicans. Jamal ski was a legend out here. He was around that time of KRS-1, he was killing the fucking place. Wrapping with all the rappers, but in Jamaica, Jamal ski. Lyskin brother, but yeah, that time, let's talk about one person because it's very hard for us to have a legend like you. After Jamal ski. No, I don't know. We have Mad Lion fucking destroyed the game out here. Mad Lion. Well, let's take it easy. I'm in this video. What? You gotta take it easy. What? He was now Chris, right? Too many suckers and not enough time. Anyway, that make more fucking that shit. Mad Lion? Mad Lion. Mad Lion? You know Mad Lion? I know Mad Lion. Okay, yeah. Mad Lion. I thought it was a Brooklyn posset. Yeah. What's his name? Also. But I want to say one thing, because we never hear about this, right? And it's similar in reggaeton, but I got one thing to say. Lady Soar, she ran the females forever. Tell me about Lady Soar. Tell me about her contributions to the game. I felt like there would never be another female to touch the mic in reggae music. What I saw is a legend, you know, on the right, I forgot Sister Maria and Hall, you know, because of her respect. Because the older we get, the true people account what it shows. So Sister Maria and Hall, she played a pivotal role, you know what I mean? Coming up in the industry, we're just a male-dominated industry. We only had like 10 females, Lady G, Lady Anne, Lady P, Sister Nancy, you know? Sister Nancy. And then you have Joanie Ranks, Lady Joanie. Yeah. You have Shelly Tonda. Shelly Tungal. Mama Liza, but Mama Liza was from a time, an era when she and Kojak used to do it, that Kojak and Mama Liza. So from that time to the time when the ladies became assertive, it was a test of between Lady G, because Lady G was a top-notch, Lady G used to be with Papa Sun. And she was one of the baddest at the time. So after Lady G, you call her Mama Sal, seeing Marianne. And she brought it to that different level. Oof, she bring it to that total different level. She opened the Pandora's box and she never looked back. And you know what I mean? Our teen salad and the nightingale, she gave her a life over to the church and to the true and living God. So we can respect her and thank her for her contribution as well. We got one, the Evie Queen. Ran the whole reggae tone forever like Lady Saw. And then finally now you got, you know, the Carol Jeans and all those girls that's rocking now. So now you got a whole new resurgence of the females. These new resurgence are female in Jamaica from the era of Spice then to Shinsia. Shinsia, yeah. A whole new era. And this is what the music is. Always need new life to keep feeling it, but you have to always bring a piece of what makes it the music with you. That's what we're missing. Yeah. Dela Jules. You know, shout out to Rihanna. Rihanna not from Jamaica, but she had this sound. She, I remember what this shit. Na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, what was that shit? She had, I had to kill him. What was that record that Rihanna record? Rum, pum, pum, pum, rum, pum, pum, pum, rum. I might have listened to that shit 10 million times when that shit came out. I'm blasting that shit in the car, but I had to kill a man down. Rum, pum, pum, pum, rum, pum, pum, pum, pum, pum. The music grows joy. And as you and I both know, it's not been easy for music from the Caribbean, especially Jamaica Dancehall music. Now, within the last four, five, six years, we must give thanks because doors have been open and they've been closed in our face, perpetually. And with that being said, now we hear music like from Dancehall and 97 WBLS and viewers at a section, but let's be the true, they were also forced to because music is everywhere now on your phone. Yeah. Everyone playing on TikTok. Whatever you want everywhere. Yeah, it's, you know, gone are the days I've had real gig. My daughter's 19, she starts singing songs that came out in the 80s and the 90s. I'm like, yo, what's up? She's like, yo, that's the number one on TikTok. Now, dad, I'm like, what? She be like, yeah, that's the number one out. Like that's how the kids are learning. So no one's shooting into a radio station anymore? He pushed the bar, but find out that Jamaican Paddy. Your phone is everything. I need to be there. Phone is already in station. Before the radio station. Phone is the radio station. Y'all kids, I like that one. I like that, but you ain't lying. Now they don't understand that. Before we used to, look, he said he had to wait to hear Run DMC and tape it at three in the morning. Back in the day, we had no, it wasn't like now you could just pick whatever music you want on your phone. Back in the day, around 9 o'clock and 7 in the cold. Everybody gotta be like, standing close. Yeah, that's right. Waiting on your segment to go upstairs. Yeah. Everybody, you know, we had a, we had a shout out because he reached out to me. I got to talk to him. Stretch Armstrong and Bob Beak though. They had an underground station out here where you went there and Jay-Z was waiting online and Nas was waiting online and Biggie Smalls is waiting online. And Fat Joe's waiting online. And Big Pun's waiting online. The biggest guys you ever seen in your life waiting online to get up on there to bust a rhyme at three, four in the morning. These kids now, the type of access they got now, they don't even realize like, like the things you fought for has been taken for granted. Wow. I said, none of the Joe. Yes. All the things we fought for. Yes. Yeah, everything we fought for right now was like, yeah, it's a regular daglar, you know. It is what it, what Richard Barber said. Huh? Taste right beef patty in Miami. It's the best beef patty. Where did he go? No. No. Taste right, I challenge anybody. Listen to me. On the planet earth, anybody that show me a better beef patty, Jamaican patty, then taste right in Miami. You wanna put some money on it? I got money on it. Say, don't do that, but you're- Franklin and Bull. No, you ain't got a better one. You don't have a better one. You're Jamaican, right? I don't care. I don't care what they say, taste right. Are you recording? Yo, listen. I'm living my anything. I need money. Listen, budget, one dollar. I need a number. Listen to the dollar. Listen. I need a number. Butch up. When you go back to Miami, I'ma send you a box. But it's better while eating hot. All right, let's do this. This taste right Jamaican beef patty, you could bring me any kind of beef patty you want. All right. You're not beating this. I do not eat beef patty, but I know beef patty that we eat out of beef patty you're talking about. You gotta bring a beef patty eat report. I'll be able to have 10. Listen, listen, listen, listen. I'm not even gonna tell you. Listen, listen. Where's that? Where's that? I don't know. I'm flogged off. Listen, Joey. Joey, you ever heard of tasteies beef patty? Where's tasteies patty? Jamaica. Oh, no, no. You ever heard of tasteies patty? All the people who are watching now, I'm not knocking the fatty places spoke about, no respect to them. No, they're Jamaican. And the entrepreneurs, you know what I mean? But no one can test tasteies patty. Maybe tasteies in the world. No patty in the world. In the original and they don't. Listen, and I don't eat beef patty. Filly cheese. Okay? No, no, no, no. So this is the number one patty. And listen, I'm gonna go to the land to make sure box get to you in America. I believe you. So you got an other experience. I believe you because taste rights sound like they caught the tasty yalla. They said it. Yeah. Right? The title. Taste rights sound like they might have caught the taste me really tasty. Reggae tone. He might be right. Listen, my brother, when you in Miami, you go to taste right, they don't even know I buy from there. I sit in the car. They don't even know I just shut out. No respect goes out to taste rights. Both you buy until I'm fat Joe. Be getting you up. I'm gonna be an establishment. Black progress. Every time. That's right. They got lines boy. The boys right there. But we go to the studio. You don't get my sugar up. You know what I mean? Get my sugar up. You know, I eat a couple of them beef patties. My shit go up. So when last have you gone back to Jamaica? Man, I haven't been to Jamaica. How's the progress system, the hurricane? The hurricane has done a number on the island. But my people are strong. My people are resilient. We have with the face a lot of stuff through our time on that island. And we'll manage to bounce back. And this is shall be no different. We shall bounce back stronger, better and bigger. I've seen no kind of AI ship with sharks in the street. That was all AI, right? Absolutely. Sharks in the street. The motherfucker, I said, God damn this shit going down in Jamaica. Look at this shark point I read. The fuck is swimming in the pool? I'm like, yo, this is AI shit. AI is. Yeah, AI is crazy. But Disneyland is an illusion. But you told me 20 years ago, Disneyland is an illusion. Joey, it's not a coincidence. Because now the lines are blurred. And you don't know if it's read or if it's fake. Yeah, I don't know. So AI, I've entered a conversation to create doubts. So even if it's real, it's going to be doubt circulating. It might be AI. You understand? So what is real and what is fake? No, it's very questionable. Wow. Another joke. All the way up, though. That statement you just said is all the way to the top. We don't know what the fuck going on. Like, I don't know what's real. What's fake? What's happening? What's like this shit is crazy? This is what I was talking about earlier. And you think I'm fucking playing? Yo, I'm looking at the phone. I don't know what's real, what's fake. Everything is blurred lines. You right? It's in here. It's not in here. So he's saying right now, if Jada Kids top five, dead or alive, you dick, you pussy, your cousins, we would be questioning that worldwide if you even said that shit at Versus. Because right now they got AI. I'm not a dick. Not like you that bought a ticket. I bought a ticket in a building. Can't be AI. You saw it with your eyes. But you want to hear the huge difference now. Back in the time when someone came to see Jada or see Joey, they were there with us in the moment. Oh, for real. Do you think our fans are in the moment with us these days? They all over the moment. They all. Let me tell you something real. This Saturday, this Sunday, this Sunday, is new edition Boyce the Man and Tony Braxton. And I'm not going to lie to you. Some people don't get, they don't respect. They didn't say Fat Joe, the icon, wants to pull up with his wife, give him a front row seat. They saying they don't give seats. My people are like, you're going to buy a ticket yourself? A horse ride. I love these guys. I love their music. I have to be there. I have to be in the moment. I have to support. There's no problem with a buy front row. But some people look at me, right? Because they're so into what's happening now. Like just last week, two weeks ago, I went to see Jimmy Jam, Terry Lewis. I don't give a fuck. I don't give a fuck. If I love you, I'm showing up. Some people who still trying to be in the mix is like, yo, Joe, you going to that old school shit? I'm like, yo, bro, this is the music I grew up on. This is the music I love. These are the people I look up to. I don't give a fuck. I'm front row. And I'm having the time of my life. And so people need to get out there and don't take your icons and your legends from granted. When they come through, buy your ticket, throw on your outfit, and go in that motherfucker. Don't let nobody, don't let nobody convince you otherwise. I don't give a fuck. We know what's popping. They don't make them kind of music no more, brother. No. That train been left. Ooh. That train left already, what you told Jane? That train is out of your genes. That train left. Yo, listen, budget bond time, man. I love you in another whole... Butterflies, when is dropping? The 17th of April. Look forward to butterflies, no? 417, that's April 17th. You can get that butterfly. You can get it on April 16th at 12 midnight. Yes. Well, no respect, no respect, brother. And I'm so proud of you, proud of you both. Doing something great. I mean, I only hope that for the culture, the brothers in the culture know how important not only to have advice, but to have advice that we control the narrative, have advice that we can really actually sit among our peers. Instead of people trying to pry into our life that we don't know from anywhere and all in a while. All the sickly-hubs being so uncomfortable, God is that interviewer to be so weak and all that bullshit. Yeah, like in every case, man, man, man, there's a reason we can talk about past experience and we just chill. So this is important for the culture to have legends like that. Because remember, once upon a time, we looked at those who were ahead of us as elders. All fucked up, it is that now we are the elders. Mmm. Mmm. So we have to make sure that the accessibility stays in the community and access stays in the community for our community. Because once you used to line up to have things like this done, now I come sit amongst the undercoach with people who are in the same industry as I am. And we can talk, we can relate, because I'm not saying something that farfetched. I'm saying that you can relate to your sentence, I can identify with the same industry. And you know what I'm saying? They're trying to hurt me. And I think that being an asshole to make you look stupid, but the further what we're both doing, so this is a win-win situation. I'm the fan city yeet and the camaraderie. I'm a jingle. You want to ask around? Fuck, I want to throw the whole shit, the pillow. That was real. I hope I was fucking listening to that. The fucking pillow. I hope you heard everything you said. Rappers call us up. Thank you very much. I invite you to call us up. I appreciate you, budgie. Rappers call us up with this contract. The rappers call us up. Guys that we know, we friends. They got beef with other rappers. Y'all want to sit on the couch. I want to shit them. We don't do that here. This ain't the house. This the house of love, of culture, of spreading. They want to come in here and talk shit about the other rapper. This not what we do here. It's an opportunity to create what we grew up on. We went from a BT perspective where culture was out with young people, express, sell the product, time to the fans, direct communication with the fans. We don't need to muddy the water. Let's keep it clean. That's it. Butterflies, 417. You want to know what's crazy? 416 and 12 million. Remember. Hold up, but let me tell you something. Rappers who call us for the controversy, you know, we know them, brothers. They call Jada because they call me, y'all want to sit on the couch and want to shit on this guy. I want to say my story like this. And we say, yo, we not with that. I see them go and do their interview with the same people who gate keep the industry and been spreading all that bullshit forever. And they sit down with them and I look and I said, look at this shit. They found a way to these motherfuckers who were getting us to kill each other forever. And they sit down right back at that couch when the guys like us say, no, we not doing that. We staying positive. They go right back to the guys who started all this shit. But it's OK. Let's say that. No, let's say that. That ain't this is cracking kiss. Make some noise. Put your body on the couch. No respect. No respect. No respect. No respect. Guys, I'm getting. All right. Put your body on. What do you feel like? I'm not the king.