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When you manage procurement for multiple facilities, every order matters. But when it's for a hospital system, they matter even more. Granger gets it. And knows there's no time for managing multiple suppliers and no room for shipping delays. That's why Granger offers millions of products and fast dependable delivery. So you can keep your facility stocked, safe, and running smoothly. Call 1-800-GRanger-click-granger.com or just stop by. Granger. For the ones who get it done. You're listening to Bigfoot Society and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring you first-hand encounters from people who say they've seen something impossible, from backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere, and each one leaves us with more questions than answers. These are the voices of the people who've lived it. So settle in because today you'll hear another account that just might change the way you see the woods forever. So stay with us. All right, Bigfoot Society. You've got the privilege of talking to Tim. He's a Bigfoot researcher from Western North Carolina. And how's it going today, Tim? I'm doing great, sir. How about you? Oh, man, I'm having a great day. Just got back from Oregon. So kind of getting back into this swing of things. But I heard about you through our mutual friend, Mr. Harley Owens from down there in Eastern Tennessee, Bigfoot reports and data. And yeah, it's just a pleasure to to meet you. And it sounds like you've got some really interesting things you've been involved with since about 2008. Yes, sir. Since 2008, I have had four four sightings. And I've had just tons, and I mean tons of interactions with them throughout the years. Most of my areas, I keep stuff going anything I see they do on and do so that I can keep the interactions going. So yeah, take us back to the beginning. How this all started for you and how you first realized that yeah, there's something going on out here. Okay, the way it started is actually kind of funny. They was a guy moved in up above me. His wife, family has other lands here in the county that I live in and they've moved up from Florida. And I was actually outside skin and a deer. I'd been deer hunting and I was skinning my deer out and the sky comes up and he says, hey, my name's Nathan Corbin. I just moved in the hill up here and I'll get back with you. I say you like to hunt fish. I like to hunt fish too. I mean, just talking to the face, I couldn't hardly keep up with him. And he said, I'll see you in about two weeks and he went back to his truck and took out. And my life walked up and said, who in the world was that? And I said, well, I've got his name is Noose from Florida. He just moved in up here and he'd actually hunt and fish and sees that I do too. So he's going to give me a towel and a couple of weeks and you know, just say if we've come for injured, whatever, just hang out. So in about two weeks, just true to his word, he showed up and he said, let's go fishing. I said, okay, let's go. So we headed out and he was talking to me and talking about the property that they have up here. It's 86 acres surrounded all by national forest and it is actually locked behind forest service gates. They are the only ones them and the forest service are the only ones that have access to the gate. So he said, it's going to be a good place for us to hunt. If you'll help me put out feeders and all that kind of stuff, he said then we'll start hunting up there. And I told him, I said, yeah, that'd be awesome. Just let me know when and what. So he told me he said, the first thing we got to do is play a trick on my boys and I said, okay, not really known what he meant. He said that they had snook a set of salad deer horns out of the cabin into the front of his trail camera. And whenever they done that, they just stuck the horns around so you couldn't see nothing but the horns. And he seen that picture and he was like that was actually back when trail 10s had the 35 millimeter cameras in and so he went and got it developed. The first thing he sees is that deer. And he said, told his wife that I've got to get in the woods. These things ain't coming around here. He said, I ain't gonna come out of the woods till I do. And she said, did you look at any other pictures? He said, no, I ain't got time. And he was on Benioen, he's on Bainese and all that crackers and stuff. And the buggy is getting ready to go sit on the deer stand that evening. And she finally got him tucked into going and looking at that other pictures. And the very next one is his boy, both of his boys and their friends holding those deer horns. And he told me he said, we have got to pay them back. And I told him I said, all right, for some reason I remembered this at the time I hadn't told him about it years. But I told him back in the 70s, my dad that one of his friends was hunting and they come across some traps in the snow that was birchwooded. My bad friend is about probably 6, 5, 6, 6, 6, you were the size 13 tube and it was bigger than his tube. And one of the locations in this county, I'll stand in the Indian. It's a big campground in the National Forest and all of that. And they had seen that track back in the 70s and I told him, no, I told him I said, I tell you what we'll do. I'll make a set of those tracks. And whenever I get those made, we'll go up there and put some tracks up and we'll just have some fun with him. And he said, yeah, that'll work. So we did, we went up there and put tracks down in the mud and broke a few limbs and stuff like that. And honest to getting this, I never would have thought of a big foot around here if they would truly was something I think they'd be out west some years. And so we done real good and made up some stuff for them to find. And now his boys that was in their mid-20s. So you know, it's not like little kidra nothing. But he said, I'll come up with him tomorrow. And we'll go with him and see what they think. And I told him, I said, you have to go by yourself because I'll get tickled. I can't, I can't, I can't have myself that good. And so I stayed at the past and he went up and they walked around, I had the tracks to start with and he told him he said, now, you ain't getting me again. I see this track you made. And they said, walk track. And they said, this one right here. And when they seen that they just freaked out, oh Lord, daddy, we've got big foot, sorry, you're probably, we're going to have to get over trail cam. We combined it and the wasn't get pictures of it. Might have been worth a lot of money. And they just took the climb and sinker. And so they had a band at the time and they had to play that night. And they was actually going to cancel their gig and get in the woods and no one told them said, no, you've got to honor your word. So they went on to their gig. And while they was at the gig, no one was with them of course. So I snuck up there and messed things up on the porch, turned chairs over and threw clothes on top of the house and all of this stuff. And whenever they got home about two o'clock in the morning, they called her dad and told him, so that thing's been back up here while we was gone. So the joke went over real big. And the next day they finally figured out it was us. So everybody got a good life out of it. And man, those from started putting feeders out and that kind of stuff. And there was a whole group in New Georgia. So we got up in the top of loft of this little cabin and waited on the porch to come out one evening. And the spot where it says it's got creek and Laura bushes real heavy around it. And they were three raccoons come out of the Laura bushes and out into the yard. And they fed around our yard for a few minutes. And then turned around and run back in to the bushes. And when they did, one of them grabbed one of the raccoons at the time we didn't know what it was. But it grabbed one of the raccoons and started killing it. And I don't know if your listeners know what that sound is like, but it's it's a terrible sound. And the conquit squall and and all of a sudden you just heard a big roar and everything went dead quiet. And I looked at him and I told him I said, buddy, both I know every animal in these woods. I have seen black panthers. I have seen the red wolf that we have that they turned back in the 50s. Turned up in the 50s. I said, I have seen all of that. And this one I can't explain. Number one, it wasn't a dog because there was no bark and whatever jumped on that can, you know, a big size can plus a pretty good fight. So I knew it wasn't a dog and I knew it wasn't somebody and I knew it wasn't a bird because the roar that it does a bird don't make that kind of roar. They're just more, they just actually just more huff than anything. And we were sitting there and talking to him, quiet about what it could be. And then it started whistling. And I told him I said, buddy, boy, I do not know what this is. I said, the the sound that it made, I don't know. And for it to start whistling after that, I definitely don't know what it was. And it would whistle over a few seconds. And about every 10 to 15 seconds, I'd say. And we decided we'd go outside and see what we could see. And when we turned the lights on in the in the top loft of the cabin, it quit whistling. And we went outside and never heard it. No more and never thought that much about it. And from then on, things started happening. The more that we was up, our more things would happen. We would put up, put up feeders, cut trails, little ones that we wanted to deer, where we wanted to deer hunt, we'd make us a trail. And we would come back and brush and be piled up on the trails going to our deer stand. Our feeders would be messed with. The trail cams would be messed with that kind of stuff. So we started paying a little bit more attention to what was actually going on. And you know, we started realizing these limbs and stuff that had been carried in. They've been around else. They've not been broke by by or nothing like that. They've not been chewed on or anything like that. They'd actually been just like somebody had put their hands and ripped them off the trees. And the more, like I was saying, the more we was up, our more stuff that we had happened, we was putting one of the feeders up. And I'm holding the ladder for him and a rocket's behind me. And it's in the middle of winter. So we know there's no wakers falling, nothing like that, nothing else it could have been. And I asked him, I said, did you drop something? And he said, no. I said, I think I heard something hit behind me. And he said, yeah, I did too. And so we started just, you know, just been a little more cautious and looking around, we never did see anything. We went back up to that same feeder a few days later. And was going to fill it back up. And we started putting the corn in it and one yield. And it done the long drawout. Yeah, like Bobo does on finding big foot that big long draw. And it was so loud that it just made your whole body shake. And when it started without it was actually an airplane that came across the ridge real low because the first service had been doing some mapping and for logging areas and stuff. And but when it tapered off, we could tell it what about 50 to 70 yards above us. And that was the first other than the grill, the rule that it did when got to come. That was the first vocalization that we heard. And it really got our attention, you know, we we didn't slow down of what we was doing, but we started paying a lot more teach and taking pictures of stuff that was happening. And and that kind of stuff. And that went on for years. I mean, every every time we would go up there, we would have some kind of interaction whether we was getting yelled at or stuff being placed in our trails going to our to our deer stands. And like I said, messing with the feeders and the trail cameras. And I was at our one in the man, no, some was a deer hunting. And I'm sat there and I hear two people, what I thought was people at the beginning, start talking. And I could understand everything they said except the language. It was a language I'd never heard of. And I text no, some that was on the Tuesday evening. And I texted him and I told him I said, I hear somebody on your property. I said, I can tell that there's two of them, but what you're saying don't make any sense. I've never heard that language before. And I have got Native American Cherokee in my family. So I have actually heard their language. And honestly was a lot like native American language, but with monkey gibberish thrown in, you know, grunts and and that kind of stuff and squeaks and everything. So he told me he said, well, said still until it gets dark because whoever it is will have to turn the lights on to get out. Well, we set to wait way after dark. And no lights ever come on. So we just decided to leave. And then with back in there on Thursday of the same week. And it happened again. And all of this is happening. So we're starting to put the puzzle together that there's actually something up there, especially once we heard the big long drawback, yelled that it does or how whatever you want to call it. And actually heard Bobo do that on finding big foot and heard that I thought well, I said, exactly what Bobo does and I told my buddy, I said, you may have some big foot stuff here. And he was like, you recognize it. Well, things is so bad. Not that way. If you work in university maintenance, Granger considers you an MVP because your playbook ensures your arena is always ready for tip off. And Granger is your trusted partner offering the products you need all in one place from HVAC and plumbing supplies to lighting and more and all delivered with plenty of time left on the clock. So your team always gets the win. Call 1-800-GRANJER, visit Granger.com or just out by Granger for the ones who get it done. When you manage procurement for multiple facilities, every order matters. But when it's for a hospital system, they matter even more. Granger gets it and knows there's no time for managing multiple suppliers and no room for shipping delays. That's why Granger offers millions of products and fast, dependable delivery. So you can keep your facilities stocked, safe and running smoothly. Call 1-800-GRANJER, click Granger.com or just stop by. Granger for the ones who get it done. If you work in university maintenance, Granger considers you an MVP because your playbook ensures your arena is always ready for tip off. And Granger is your trusted partner offering the products you need all in one place from HVAC and plumbing supplies to lighting and more and all delivered with plenty of time left on the clock. So your team always gets the win. Call 1-800-GRANJER, visit Granger.com or just out by Granger for the ones who get it done. And after for about two, two and a half years, every time we would go in, they was either throwing stuff or putting stuff in our trails. My buddy passed away and I lost rats to go home to the property. But until we quit going on his property, we were still getting stuff put in our trails. I mean, tops of pine trees broke out and drove into the ground. Big bushes and trees broke over the trail. The yellow and then rock thrown and stuff stopped after about two years, less than water trails and our cameras and stuff. That continued up until he got sick and I think it was 2000-20. Tim, I definitely have a few questions for you. This is, I mean, a really incredible area. It sounds like and I'm sorry that you lost your friend as well. That's just extremely sad to hear that he has passed. There's probably a question that a few listeners are thinking. So I'm going to ask it. What was it that did you ever have the thought when this first started that, oh, is this just a retaliation prank or what was it that made you think, okay, this is real and not just the boys trying to prank us back after we got them back? One thing was the boys was still living in Florida. They was on their own and they was traveling with the band around all over Florida in Tennessee and was it up here when things was happening. That was one of the first things is that we, before we had our trail cameras, the boys knew about but you would walk around with that ever seen them. So we knew they were nobody coming on this property. Not only did we have trail cameras in the woods, but we also had them on the driveway coming up in case people wanted to come in, trust passing and that kind of stuff. But the way that we knew it was his boys is that they was not even in the state at the time when most of this was going on. That makes a lot of sense. Were there ever any, did you ever have any visuals on the property of the creatures at all? No, not on this property I did. I have seen them. But you would sort of have seen the layout of the property. It's actually laying at the mouth of four, two little valleys coming down and just one little flat spot. I mean it was back down in place. You could tell the house. And the rest of it is high mountain ridges and it is absolutely full of lural bushes, robed and drains. We call them lural bushes around here. But just the lay of the land, and what I have worked since then is it's hard to get above them. They're always going to have the high ground. And on his property they seem to stay right on the redripe behind his house so that whenever we come in they would know it was ours soon as we pulled into the driveway. Did you ever were you able to ever get any audio recorded on the property? Not there. And that's one thing that I was just documenting stuff on my phone. I wasn't really into research. And that I would document stuff like footprints and what I would break limbs over and that kind of stuff. But I never really got into the documentation and audio recording and all of that stuff until I met the guys that I'm in a group with now called Verdeset Verdes South Squatchin. And they got me to help me how to build recorders. Our audio recorders will record 24 hours a day for two weeks. And then we have to go in and change them. And so they have got me got me in on learning how to do that. And I have got a lot better at it. But I'm also a lot of the times that I'm in the woods. I am actually deer hunting, hog hunting, that kind of stuff. So I ain't always got one of our pros on me and all of that stuff because it just gets too much to carry. But we do have certain research areas that have high activity. And that is what we did most of our research in that nail. Do you feel like you ever had any communication with the creatures on that property back and forth? I do. I honestly think that they had come to accept us. The man my dad was up there both hunting. And it was getting that time even in for deer and stuff to start moving. And this was in 2016 back when it was a drive that we had all the wildfires. And I actually, this was one of the few times I have ever heard one come in around me. But at first I thought it was deer. And it's in November. So I'll beichens and hickronuts and all that stuff's off the trees. And there's rocklands about 50 yards out from me. And I felt comfortable enough and been around them enough to know that they wasn't going to hurt me or if they was they could have done it, you know, years ago. So I thought, well, I'm just going to sit here and see how close they'll throw the rocks. And the next one had about 35 foot yards from me and then about 20 yards and then about 10 yards. And then the next one landed about a foot and a half from my foot. And I thought, well, it's definitely time to go. And I called my dad and told him, I said, well, they're up here throwing rocks at me. It's time to go. And he told me he had never heard him do the whistle. And he was telling me there's where he was at. We took an old Porta John and made a blind out of it. And he hunted up closer to the theater. And he told me he said, there was something down at the Porta John blind. And it would whistle once. And something straight above me between me it would whistle. Plast. And evidently what it had done was the second one that was done the two whistles. It circled in around the belly. And when it was time to go, they just let me know. I know it's sort of hard to figure out. But I honestly felt like that they was used to us and knew that we wasn't a threat. And when they didn't want to surround that state of being aggressive or anything like that, they would just suddenly let us know. Usually rocks being throwed or sticks through the wood top of the trees or something like that. Did you ever try whistling back? I do. And that is actually when I was talking about the nuisance bin on the ladder putting the figure up. I had actually been standing there doing the whistle. And it probably wasn't five minutes after being up there that it threw the rock in behind us. And for some reason, and I don't know why I do it, but it has been stuck in my head. And I'll find myself just to walk through the grocery store or Walmart or wherever. And I'll be doing that whistle. And I honestly don't know why, but it's just something that is stuck with me. And I actually do it when I'm in the woods and won't even realize I'm even doing it. Is that something where you could do that right now? Maybe not directly into the phone, but to the side, it just be it would be interesting to hear what it sounded like. Yeah, let me get a sip of water Oh, sure. I can do it. Sorry to put you on the spot. Oh, that's okay. It's just a single note. It just goes that wasn't very loud. Oh, really? Oh, boy, that sounds familiar. Yes, I've heard that. I heard something similar in Oregon. Yeah. And we had there's a communication going back and forth. And it was the most interesting slash horrifying thing I've ever seen. Just the communication between one of our group and whatever it was just in the tree line. And that sounds familiar, dude. Wow. Well, I'm glad I'm glad that you recognized it. That way they know I'm not just making something. No, you're not. You're absolutely not Tim. Wow. It sounds before we move on from this area. So it sounds like this area was sold to someone else. No, once he died, his daughter got married. And the sun and law started keeping things up up there. So they was, you know, only went a fire because of being him, being friends and doing stuff together. And there was really no reason for me to go back up there because his son and law took over him was a lot younger than both of us. So I helped him, you know, we was always bowing and just keep them the place up. And one time the sun and law took over that. So there's really been no reason for me to go back up there. It would be interesting to know if that sun and law is having issues happen or things happen on that property. I would guess it didn't just go away, but you never know. Oh, I was told to him and he still gets that creeped out feeling. Yeah. When it goes up there, like something to watch an emin and back on the stuff. And one of my research areas is actually just across the ridge from his property. And we have that is where I saw my second one. And we get a lot of audio and that kind of stuff from from that area, like I say, which is just across the ridge from Newsham's family's property. If it wasn't such a big ridge and it was just a straight line, I would say it wouldn't be not even half a mile. Oh, okay. So I see what you did. So if you kick in in that area, just make a research area relatively close to it. And it's probably the same big foot. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I get it. That's smart. Can you walk us through what kind of things you experienced over in that area? And it sounds like you had some actual visual sightings over there. Yes, sir. That area, I was actually, that was actually one of my main hunting places. And then I once I started learning the sounds that they leave, I started recognizing it in that area. And that is when I met Bob Trent and Dwight Campbell there, the two founders of Dirty South Squatchin. And Dwight come up and went with me and we started putting audio recorders in there. And we've got a lot of good stuff out of our one. And this is it's on the subject, but it's one of them things that we still ain't figured out on our audio recorders at about 2 30 in the morning. You hear what sounds like two hammerheads hitting together. And this place is about a mound of hayst back into the woods. So that's one weird thing that we've never figured out what in the world that was, but we have got good audio days. We actually had them walking up and sniffing and smelling the recorded thirline rocks at the recorders. Or I'm pretty sure it was rocks. It could have been acres, but the time of year they're probably eating the acres instead of throwing them. Also in that area, we is for that I was saying I saw my second one. We were walking in one day to change all of our audio recorders out in our trail cams. And we smelt one and then just so people know they don't smell all the time. They can do it just like the scum does. And the reason that we know this on multiple times we've had them up windows and you will smell them. And then they'll fall right along with you. You'll hear them right up the door. And the wind's not changing direction, but you don't smell them. So they do not smell all the time. But we actually smelt that one and we're standing there talking about it. It was in an old-grown clear cut. And everything was quiet. They went no birds making no noise or nothing. And we're standing there talking about smelling that. And I seen something moving the clear cut. And I told my buddy to why I said there's something moving in that clear cut. So we said I ain't talking a little while longer. And I'll say it moves again. When you manage procurement for multiple facilities, every order matters. But when it's for a hospital system, they matter even more. Granger gets it. And knows there's no time for managing multiple suppliers and no room for shipping delays. That's why Granger offers millions of products in fast, dependable delivery. So you can keep your facilities stocked, safe, and running smoothly. Call 1-800-Granger, click ranger.com or just stop by. Granger. For the ones who get it done. If you work in university maintenance, Granger considers you an MVP. Because your playbook ensures your arena is always ready for tip-off. And Granger is your trusted partner, offering the products one place from A-Track and plumbing supplies to lighting and more and all delivered with plenty of time left on the clock. So your team always gets the win. 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It's so thick that it was hard to see with the naked eye. But when you zoom in with this camera and done just a panoramic video, you could see it. Wow. And you could see it moving as well during that time when it was zoomed in. Yeah. Wow. Is that are those available to see anywhere? Is that private research stuff? No, they should be. They've been posted on our, well, actually I tell you, on YouTube, if you go to the white Campbell on YouTube, you can find the video on there. The name of it is a deer flush and a big food or something like that. Okay. I'm a deer flush on it and big food on it. I don't remember the very exact topic, but that's close to what it is. Gotcha. I will have to check that out later. I did find the video. I'll make sure it's linked in the in the show notes for this so people can check it out. And also in this area, I went in one morning, Bo Hunt. And I got up to where I said that and I actually said close to where I recorded audio recorders. And I just, it was that time of the morning where I could just start walking about a flashlight. It was a day-life and that's where I could see about 30, 40 yards ahead of me, you know, good. And I'm standing there and I'm taking my, across Bo off my children, leaning it against the tree and get ready. And when I hung on the ground, I don't hung out the tree stand. I said, I said on the ground and so I took that the crossbow off and set it down and was getting ready to take my, my backpack off. And there was a dove run down the hill and I knew something wasn't right because her eyes was real big in her mouth wide open like she has been chased. And when she seen me, she stopped and looked at me for just a few seconds and then turned around and run back up the hill. She ran probably 67 yards up the hill and stopped and was looking up the hill. And turned around and runs back down the me. Does that about six or seven times just running from me back up? And then she finally stopped about halfway, which was out of the bow range. So I'm just sitting there watching her and she's looking at me and looking at the hill like she don't know what to do. And I'm thinking, well, what's wrong with this crazy thing is the first thing that I thought. And I just kept watching her and she finally eased out of sight, I'll fold with the side of the ridge that I was on. And in about a hour after that, maybe I earned two of them come through the tops of the clear cut and they started hollering at me and honest to goodness, I know it sounds funny, but it sounded like they was cussing me out. And you could tell that there was two of them doing that. And I honestly think what I had done was I was I was walked into where the deer was supposed to run to and the other one was supposed to be a watching for it. But when I come in, it had to go hide. And that sort of meshed their deer drive up. The ones that were yelling at you were you able to actually visually see them at that time or just you could tell they were there because the yells were in the area? I could just tell they was there. They was probably probably 200 yards from me going around, back around the top of the mountain towards Nussam's side of the ridge. Have you had multiple visual sightings in that area or was it the main one? Now that was that's on the one that I've had in that area. And we still have audio recorders and Carol Kim's going in that area. Have you? This is kind of maybe out of the ordinary questions here. Oh, that's okay. Yeah. Yeah. And have there has there ever been any have you ever heard anything in your mind or has going into the areas affected your dreams afterwards? No, I've never I've heard people talk about my mind speaker or whatever you want me. Right. But I've never I've never witnessed that. I keep telling people and I'm not making kind of people that do. But I just tell them I must be on the wrong segment or something because I've heard anything like that. You know, that area for over well is by almost a year to the day. But that area I could not go into. I would get up there and it was just a thing of dread. Just like do not go in here. I've had that happen a couple of times and one time it kept me from walking into a down pipeline. One morning hunt if I had my list listened to it. I would have walked directly into a live pipeline that had the top of the pole had broke off and then it had come down. But it hadn't went low enough to touch the ground. And I'm little over six feet tall. So I would have walked straight into it if I had not hated that morning. So ever since then I listened to it. And for a year I could not go into that area. And and it left just as soon as it started. I do not know if yes, maybe there was one in there that had maybe been hurt that was a threat. Or one that's maybe been run off and was aggressive or what? I don't know but I did know for and that's the only place that I've ever sent that way about. But it was at least a solid year before I could go in there. So just to clarify during that time you were just having a really bad feeling not to go into that area where you're actually hearing something that said don't go in here. No, it was actually just that gut feeling. Yeah. Like I don't and it would almost bring fear or a poem. It not that you know just whatever you do do not go into this area. There's other places around it that hunted maybe a high street closer miles away. I had no problem going to those places but it was just this one particular area. Has there ever been a time where you're out there doing you know bigfoot related research and just things have gotten very intense in a way that you're like you know we should really get out of here right now. I've had some intense times we have actually been bluff charged. This was in another area. In the county that I live in I have had encounters in five different places throughout the county. So I know there's no way that that one group of you can be running from one spot to the other spot to the other spot. So there has to be at least five groups of them here in the county and I was taken to white and a lady named Robert Munchata. She had come down from Canada to go with us and we were I took them to a place called Scaly Mountain. It's on the North Carolina Georgia border and back there we went in the winter we went in February but before that in October November we were fixed on place from one dad to deer hunt and when we come back around to the time ticket you could see where one had reached up and grabbed the hold of a tree and pulled the bark outside of it. You could see where the thumb wrapped around the tree and where the other four fingers you know you could see all of that clear and I was taken to white and robbing up there to show them and when you pull it up you go behind the forest surface gate and go out a little road maybe 150 yards and then you go out a no-glog and road to your left. Well we seen some structures on the right-hand side so we dropped off that side and all of those that pictures and all of that stuff and we come back going to go around the road before the the pine tree was that had been cloud on and we hear something up on top of the ridge just start teaching to see it. Even the stuff up at Noesom God never heard anything like this and it come and just kept out of sight enough to where that to where that we couldn't see it but we definitely heard it and it got between us and our vehicles and that is the only time that I've ever put my hand on my pistol. I always carry one because you never know where gravity comes and foxes and and wild hogs and that kind of stuff so I'll always carry it for backup. I don't think I'd ever had to use it on a big foot but it's more for the other animals but anyway it got into clean us and our vehicle and it was done. I sound it if you look it up because once I heard it I actually went and looked up a silverback gorilla bluff charge and it's just like that except he's so loud and I mean you feel it it was so loud and we just stood there we have heard don't run because it's like a cat in the mouse if you play dead or we act like we just don't hear them and we let them do their stuff and go on you know if the mouse plays dead the cat lives as interest and so we just did aren't let it let her do her thing and then she moved on and we went ahead and I went up showed them the tree and we dropped off down of course she went through and we found some small tracks in there that might have been five inches long six at the most so more than likely she had it and we also found the nest down there so more than likely she had a small one down in the nest where she could watch it from the top of that ridge and when we started in between her and the little one she came off and got it and moved on. I mean that could have been an extremely dangerous situation I mean just think of what happens with a normal animal in the wild and then if you're to if you by mistake mess with the younger animal I mean the female mother animals can get very very intense and they could you know I mean in this situation you easily be taken out but there's a bluff charge so if I continue down the road that I'm going there's a high likelihood that I'll probably get into one of those situations myself one day with a bluff charge that must be a really intense situation where internally are you have is there a struggle where you're like just run your bodies like saying just run but you have to mentally say don't go anywhere is that is there back and forth going on in that situation or please no and I don't know if it's because I've been in the woods so much just like a black you don't want to run from them you stand your ground and try to look bigger and for some reason it it never entered my mind to run and I was I was confident that if we just did still that she would own you know because if they really wanted to hurt us like I said before there's been probably hundreds of not thousands of times they could have done something to us and what didn't ever say it coming and so I was pretty confident if we just stood still and let her do whatever it was she wanted to do and let it move on then we would probably be okay okay gotcha do you ever leave are there gifting situations that are going on this area is that something that you do you stay away from I actually stay away from it especially gifting so you I have to follow and not in the the my main researcher right now I'm saying to me and I have taken the ball that when it bounce it lasts so yes you are running a business so of course you're working hard but your web hosting isn't working at all darling if it can't cope with the visitors you can't grow the business try aionos it loads up to three times faster so you get much happier 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increasing megastore profits they deserve it don't they tell congress stop the Durban Marshall money grab for corporate megastores paid for by the electronic payments coalition and I've left that I have left if you look in the grocery store or Walmart you'll see the tubs of chewing gum of like juicy fruit that kind of stuff and I have actually left one of those I took all papers I thought because I don't want to live but I left just one piece of gum in it and it got to missing the last time that we was in our research area there I left it looked like a plastic yellow crane and we we honestly think we found what we called a play area up there so I left that on cup of one of the trees that they had carried in and leaned over we're going back this Saturday to check it so hopefully we can see if they have got it or not but I do not ever put food out because just like buyers I don't want them to associate people with food all all my places that I do this is on public land and I don't want me to have been carrying food in our and then get to expecting when they see people to expect food and then somebody goes in without they get aggressive and I don't think somebody would get hurt but I think that it might scare them enough to where they wanted to hurt the big footage you know maybe take a shot at them or something like that so I stay away from the food is I mean it may work I've got a good friend of mine that has done it and he would take in go in and leave moon pies and that kind of stuff and ring a bell and they would come in after he ran back bailed and get his moon pies and stuff so but I just don't want to do that on public land well it sounds like what your friend is doing is he's setting up a Pavlovian response which is you know the famous experiment with the I believe it's a dog in the bell in the food and I mean yeah yeah there's probably a different way a few different ways to look at that but that's pretty incredible that he set it up that I mean he just has to ring a bell and literally the the big foot come running and that's well and he's actually got videos and stuff that he's been offered $10,000 to put out and he won't do it because he don't want number one he don't want them bothered you know what I mean he's a he's a he's a he's a he's a and he's like if we start putting stuff like this out then everybody in their cousins going to run into the woods to think and that they can put moon pies in the dinner bell and and if people get hurt that's one thing but they don't want them to get hurt either. I'm guessing this is a gentleman who's kind of staying under the wire probably not a big presence online stuff like that. Yeah well I can give you his name his name is Doug Teague he was actually on the show if I ain't mistaken the evidence is out there and it actually shows one up on the hill of course the ones that were supposed to be experts on the show oh that's probably somebody in a house or something like this and if it is then their beggars and humming hermen monsters I can say. Right exactly that's that's a classic show right there ever since that he put that out and you know he you can tell if you spend any time in the woods and have seen him you could tell definitely that it was one watching him his dog got quiet and they was like well if it was a true big took that dog would go crazy actually dogs will took their tail on him and run I mean the biggest baddest dogs that there are the Belgian Malawol I've got a buddy that is a police officer and he drove down the road going evening and and got out to let the dog use the bathroom and he done a whistle and one whistle back and when that thing whistled he said his dog got to have cloned the side of the car trying to get back into his police car. Oh wow. So he just after that he just sort of keeps to his self and and he'll give you know keeps us at the date and that kind of stuff but he just sort of put putting anything out because he didn't want to have to put up with all the ridicules. Absolutely. So I've been looking at a map of the different areas that you've mentioned it looks like it's kind of down where North Carolina in Georgia and South Carolina meet that kind of area and it's definitely there's some big national force down there it's south of the Smoky Mountains National Park but it's just man it's just forest and forest and forest down there. I can all my research are you understanding and Indian I can I can take you up there and let you see how vast it is there's probably places there that nobody's ever been. Wow I mean that's how big the just the woods are here the another place that you can look on your map is around Rainbow Springs which is near Nanahela Lake that was where I saw my very first one there. There's also a area that I just want to say that's also an area where I've been yelled at and where I saw my very first one. Would you be able to share about the what happened the first time that you were able to see one? Oh yes sir I was in our boat hunt and I was just minding my own business not really thinking anything about it I knew that what was going on over at Newshams and that kind of stuff but I didn't think nothing about it up there and I was just walking up the ridge that's gonna get on the very tip top of the ridge and set close to a clear cut and deer hunt and I was walking up to there and all of a sudden about maybe 10 yards and trying to me it come out from behind a behind a tree and it run probably I'd say maybe 10 another 10 yards on two feet and then it dropped down to all fours and it got out of that quick I mean it covered 150 100 said the yards in no time I mean by the time I looked at it and I thought well I think what it was and then it dropped down and I had never seen them run that face I didn't know so I looked back to see if there's another one or anything and when I turned around that was it was already gone when it was running on all fours was it was it was it's have you seen any other creature that runs like that on all fours was it similar to anything else to be honest with you it looked like a hang and the reason I say that is the front end it's arms was much longer than its back legs that it was had the position of like a hind but it run the best I can tell and the best I remember it would push to from hands down and then bring its back seat up just like just like dog or deer or anything you know like that runs it puts front legs out and then push off and with its back legs and like I say it covered some distance real quick that must have been a sight to see for sure did you go ahead I'm sorry I was just going to say it was especially when you know you're you're just now grasped and what's going on in another part of the county not even really thinking that anything is going on anywhere else in the county I thought it was crazy that they was in one part of my budget property but then I as I've done more area I found out that there's quite a few of them but that's first one after my budget property as I that is you know what it just flows you for a minute cause then it gets you wondering well I wonder how many of these creatures they actually are in this county and is this in Macon County yes sir it is so did you get a pretty good look at the the head of the creature when you had that visual just it happens to face it come out and it had the side of its head you know what's looking at me when it come out it was looking straight ahead then and it happens to face honestly it took me by surprise I didn't get that good of a look because I in my mind it was registering that what the world am I looking at understood so probably not even I mean details like a shape of the head or if there was a neck to it at all I can tell you the what known that because I think that once it dropped down and was running it's it looked like it's head just stayed on the shoulders when it was running were you able to see the the bottoms of the feet at all no sir because I was trying to look at its body the shape and anything interesting about the the color of it or the the hair length or anything that you'd noticed it was I would say charcoal gray maybe black it was it was dark colored were you able to notice anything underneath the hair at all um no sir like I said the whole thing probably didn't last maybe 10 15 seconds and it was gone yep absolutely wow now the one that I well since we're talking about rainbow springs man my dad was in there not this past turkey season but the year before in 2023 and it was real cold that morning and I put an extra coat on under my clothes and it was in our turkey hunt and didn't hear nothing so I decided to hit my woodpecker cold a lot of times we'll get a response from turkeys out of that so I he had to hit and maybe a hundred yards below me a cow would be started and I thought well just come on up here and I'll get rid of you and as soon as that cow would he has a big foot holder from the same merrier and I grabbed I was trying to grab my phone out of my pocket to get it recorded and it quit it probably lasted maybe five 10 seconds and just so people realized what I got on I've got on my turkey vest plus a light jacket plus an ums league shirt and a t-shirt and I'm trying to get to all of that and once it quit I thought well don't go and it done it again so again I tried to get my phone out and still couldn't and when it stopped that time I thought well that's probably definitely the end of it but it wound up coloring four different times and my dad was a good three quarters of a mile a mile away from me and when we got back to the truck I got there before he didn't he come out and was walking down the road to me he said did you hear that hotter this morning then I said yeah I said it was right in under me he said is that what I think it was and I tell him I said yeah it was definitely one of them and he said man alive he said it just echoed out or he was saying but that's uh that's the two encounters I've had in in that area absolutely just is fascinating stuff from this this one county it seems like it's got a lot going on when I talk to Harley I've talked to Harley a few times and I've talked to other individuals from his area and something that I notice is that there is definitely seems to be some sort of government influence and there are unmarked cars seen and just other related things have you ever picked up on any out of the ordinary you know cars around when you're going out to look for big foot or any weird government interference with any of your big foot research down there I have my computer to crash I have went to a meetup in Alabama and met a guy named Booh and that's it that's just his nickname and he asked me he said have they been to see you get and I said who he said the men and I said no I ain't saying nobody he said was as much as you know to put now they will and I just never I thought now they you know what I ain't that big of a person for them to be looking for anything I'm doing and but I started a tick-tock account and finally got enough thought it was to where I could do a live show and I told told him on there I gave him the date that I was going to do it and everything and so my son come over and was going to help me with it he's going to read their questions and that stuff and he gets over here and I'd use my laptop the day before and everything was working fine so we start trying to pull it up and my laptop does nothing but set their in spines the little icon on it is just setting our spinning and finally it's getting time for us to do the live show so we have to do it off our cell phone and I took my computer to the computer place here in town and he told me he said your hard drive has been thrived and I'm like what he said yes you've lost everything on it and that was everything that I had collected from 2008 all the way up I'm thinking that was in 2000 in the 2000 23 2000 22 2003 access to 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I started opening them up and everything on it was gone and that sun drive had not been bothered since I loaded everything down on it and stuck it in the drawer underneath my computer and how it got zapped or whatever you want to call it out I don't ever know and I'm not saying that the government done it or nothing like that but it's just saying don't for funny the the day that I'm supposed to go live on TikTok and answer questions that kind of stuff that my computer gets fried and then all my years of research on that sun drive also gets gone they was in my big foot folder not only did I keep my big foot stuff but also pictures off of truck and with deer and hogs and all that kind of stuff so I had probably dating up there and having these thousands of pictures on that and when I opened up the big foot file all the other ones had nothing in them the big foot file had one picture in it and that was all and like I say I can't I can't honestly say what done it but something happened to because it was working fine the night before and then that day five minutes before it's supposed to go live it won't do nothing. That is that is a tragedy and really really makes you wonder about stuff like that what is your what's your TikTok username? My TikTok is 10 deals 13. Okay cool. Something that listeners always they kind of have been pushing me to ask questions related to this so I might start to do it and we'll come at it like this in the areas that you research have you ever found evidence of other creatures besides bigfoot in those areas that are not your normal animals? No I've honestly not the only thing that I have seen that is hard to explain I have seen a bowl of light moving through the woods. If you look on your map there's a place called Bortree it's also Wagon Road that is also one of my main hunting and research areas in that area I have been growled at had rocks throed. I'll just give you a quick story on that area I was going in and I noticed all this stuff broke across my trail but I was going in to change my my cameras and stuff out and I reach up and break a limb off that's about seven hey see how I reach up and bring take and find out and document it of course and break it off and throw it on the ground out of the trail. I get up in two for my trail goes through a laurel thicket that I've cut the trail through. There's a stick stuck in sideways that would have hit me across the chest and went I've given a phone back out document that and show that there's no way that that stick could have failed there. I take it out thought down go on through I come out it takes me about a hour and a half to walk into this area when I come out the other side I'm setting our rest in the minute and her rock comes over over my head and lands out in front of me in a clear cut and so I get my phone back out and then well they just throw the rock at landed here and it seemed like it comes from behind me and I turned my camera around backwards and done that and went on in and done change my stuff out and come back down and where I broke that first limb off there's two fresh limbs laid across the trail that wasn't there when I went in I mean they're green you could tell they had been broken and laid down while I was gone so I get my phone out document them throw them by the way I'm going through another last section of laurels and it's not like the one that had sticking it at small maybe 20 feet through it I started into it and I hear one growl at me and I don't have the best hearing in the world so I knew that it was pretty close and I thought well you crazy thing I ain't got time to throw me I've got stuff I gotta do and when I come out the other side it growled at me again and I thought well I ain't got time to throw this deck like I did here and I get rid of this stuff across this small freaking branch that was there and I look and they had stuck a stick up between two trees that would have hit me across the trees of the nose and I get my phone out and document it and I know definitely it wasn't there because I'd have to move it to walk up through there so I get off of that old logging road and back down into the main logging road and there's a laurel the locustry that I have to go wonder and they had broken a maple over about a big round as a softball they had broken it over top of the the locust while I was up in there and so I come out and document that and everything but that is the area where I saw the light men nuisance he dropped me off and went on around the road hunting and I went up in the one where I hunted up there and I come back out and I'm standing there and mean him but just a few days before that bolt some real grass slash lights the mall mart they're super bright and so I'm standing there and I look down this getting dark dark and I look down the hill and I see this orange bulb about the size of great fruit but it's real dull orange almost like an old lantern teller the glow off an old lantern and it's moving intelligently I can tell you know it's not just zipping here wrong round and about but honestly looking like it's looking for something and I thought well what's he doing with that old slice not we've got our new ones and I know he's got it really and I stand there and watch it and watch it and I thought well go down there and see what he's looking for so I turn my light on and shine down that way and when I turn my light on it goes out and I thought well he's been waiting on me so I'll get down there and he's not there and I'm thinking well he's going to try to jump back from behind the tree or something and scare me and so I'll play a slow foyer man I tell him I said I know you down here I've seen the lot of zellisco and I asked why he didn't he never get you up myself oh well and I got that down into the road where he let me out at and here he comes down the road to me and we loaded all the stuff up there and we start down road and I told him I said I just think that we were just fine I said I thought it was you but they was the only slot moving around and it was done at intelligently not just zipping around and everything like that and he said seriously and I said yeah he said he was setting in my truck talking to his wife on the phone when he looked up in the road something called his attention and the review mirror and he looked up and there was an arms vault of lactose and below the road it stalked in the center of the road and then it went up in to where I was at that's the only thing that I've seen or had been there that you know that I couldn't explain the bigfoot stuff is you know that's easy to identify but that was the only thing that to this day I still won't know what it was there's definitely some weird things like stories like that that come out of North Carolina for sure I found that every state seems to have its really popular bigfoot stories that are or accounts that are passed around people that are interested in the community and for example like you've have Oklahoma has a siege from early 2000 or you've got the whole account of you know the Patterson-Gimman film filming from 1967 for California have you found that there's an account that seems to always get passed around for North Carolina to people that are interested in the state? Yeah there's east of work from where I live it's a few hours driving east at Place Cal south mountain they have the one there they call it Nalbi that's the one that I think is most if you want to use the word famous I think that's the one that is most known in is more Carolina would be Nalbi. Farther just a lot of sightings of that bigfoot around that area or is overly aggressive or that's one I haven't heard of personally. It as far as I know it's not aggressive it's just that there's things to have been quite a few sightings going back you know quite a few years and and still going on today. I will have to I'll have to look into that so if I can maybe five. Someone's from the area and they've experienced any Nalbi sightings or you know of the history feel free to reach out in the comments or you can email me at bigfootsocietyategmail.com Tim it has been an absolute pleasure talking to you you are involved with way more than I would have guessed in this area and it sounds like you have quite a crew of researchers down there that are looking into this. Yes sir I've got if you've got time I can tell you of my most recent sightings. I would love that yeah I definitely have the time. It actually got a pretty good look at back up on stand in Indian I was going in and changing my audio recorder and my trail cams out and was walking back out and I thought well I'm just going to it was there in deer season so it had to be in November 1st of December well actually I know when it was it was the first day of December in 2023 and I was walking back out and I thought well I'm just going to sit right here and hunt to a door and I sit down and I always carry the the Bible on my phone I sit there and read my Bible and I've been reading them by the hour just waiting on to get you know laid in the evening for deer start moving and when I got third reading I thought Sutton's watching me and I turn around and look up on the little old ridge above me maybe 100 yards if that no more than 120 and I see one standing there looking at me it's pushing seven high-fake seat tall a dark color I can see everything but it's right shoulders out from behind the tree I can I couldn't see its face real good but I could see no neck big broke shoulders the color of it the conical head not you know it wasn't like a pyramid or nothing like that but you could tell that it was more than a human's head and I'm trying to get my phone out I had just switched and I found and I'm trying to find out how does it mean and all of this stuff and I know that it's not going to lie you know that it's not going to stand out forever so I throw my phone down and I pick up my raffle and I turn around the look where it's at because that's you know when you're hunting and you learn to shoot you keep your eyes on the target you bring it up to it this episode is brought to you by spreeker the platform responsible for a rapidly spreading condition known as podcast brain symptoms include buying microphones you don't need explaining our ss feeds to confused relatives and saying things like sorry I can't talk right now I'm editing audio if this sounds familiar you're probably already a podcaster the good news is spreeker makes the whole process simple you record your show uploaded once and spreeker distributes it everywhere people listen apple podcasts Spotify and about it doesn't apps your cousins swears are the next big thing even better spreeker helps you monetize your show with ads meaning your podcast might someday pay for well more microphones start your show today at spreeker.com spreeker because if you're going to talk to yourself for an hour you might as well publish it so I was watching it and when it seemed to get my gun up it's step back behind the tree and all I could see was its left shoulder and I looked and looked and couldn't see nothing but it's shoulder and I thought well I don't want to think I'm going to hurt it so I put my gun back down and it wouldn't move I watched for probably three or four minutes it would just stand there with its shoulder held and I thought well I'll turn around I scooge it to where I could look out the corner of my eye and watch it and once it thought I'd turn my head it come out from behind it but it dropped down to all fours and crawled on this belly like an army crawl it crawled from one clump of trees to another clump and checked to make sure it wasn't watching it and then it crawled from there back across the little old region it was all and later I see that was in December 23 no not December 23 December 21 and then then my wife went in there and casted after that we casted a track in there that is 16 inches long and 16 inches long and 18 inches wide man I can't imagine experiencing something like that you must have been hardly breathing the whole time actually it's I was I'm like just excited like okay I found it but a good a good look on one you know what I mean yeah and that's reason I thought I wanted to see the face up close that's the reason I was trying to get my phone out and then when I couldn't do that whenever I couldn't do that that's reason I picked my rifle up I wanted to get real good face details and but as soon as it seemed me pick up my rifle it stepped back behind there but I've had and I'm not bragging and I hope it don't sound that way and I'm not trying to act big and macho nothing like that but I've interactions with them from new forms property on up through I don't I'm not afraid I'm just excited that I'm actually getting you know getting to see another one with all these years of research do you have a goal of what you would like to try to accomplish before you know in in the years of research that you have left I guess I would say yeah I would actually like to get a good video of one not not to get famous or nothing like that I could give less about that but I want it we've got some pretty good pictures between men the guys that I go with we've got some good thermal videos real good thermal videos but I would like to get one just so I could touch it down from my brain kids you know I was I'm getting ready to turn 50 years seven Monday so I know I ain't got a lot of years left especially as bad as the mountains orange stuff around here but I would like to get something that I could leave that my grandkids could you know something besides the pictures have something that they could watch and say even if I get to take them that would be awesome but if not they could look back and say well sure when people say they don't exist well here's what my granddad found you know he said all of these I would love to get something like that more for myself if people wanted to accept that that find if not find I've been through that I don't mean to be a jerk or nothing but people say are you a believer and I say no I'm a noir I know they're here and no matter how much red it you or whatever people put on me you know I could get there less I'm a grand man I get over but I would love to have something that I could pass down to my grandkids and maybe great grandkids and you know just to let them know because the way the world's going who knows what's going to bear around them another 30 40 years they may not even be nowhere to be left to even set still being absolutely no I agree it's it's kind of a sad sad future and unless we we fix it what kind of video setup do you have in order to try to to capture that are using just your iPhone or other things or we use we've got of course tons of trail cameras in the woods we use GoPro's our thermals are a team type-in I think it's done with the one thermal that I got it's a short range thermal yes my long range thermal is 18 in binoculars they will detect a heat signature out to a mile 1800 yards so that's what I use for my my long range up here like when the leaves get off the trees I can set and on one region watch you know for a long ways and those also record they're both record video and like I said we've got to go pros we've got a little handheld they oh what's the camcorders they used to be camcorders I don't know what to count them now but the little handheld camcorders we have those also use a and to think of what it is to go pros and then I've got one that will actually mount to my gun but I can also mount it to anything else also that I use and the audio recorders that we use there are Sony personal recorders but we found the way they usually run off at two doubly batteries but we have found a way to make them run off of two debatries and they will like I said they will record 24 hours a day for two weeks and now Bob and Dwight are a whole lot more technical than I am I still have trouble when my cell phone sometimes but I am learning slowly but surely but we also have the way my truck is fixed up when we ride the back roads at night I have on the road bar I have it fixed where I can put a motor on it and attach my thermal to it so it can go 360 degrees up down whatever it needs to do and we run that to laptops inside inside my truck I'll have mine up there Bob Trent will have his with such and cuts mounted to the hood and Dwight will have his either mounted or he likes to just hold his a lot and sometimes he'll ride in the back of the truck and that's just some of the ways we do are do our recordings and stuff on the back roads when we're in the woods Dwight looks like walking camera man I mean he is he's always taking pictures and videos and we'll get to the uninheal start post in a moment I'll check sending my text and say what did you take out I didn't think so he is doesn't need the the cameraman of the dodge it's always fascinating to hear about a new part of a state where there's intense research going on I'd say we can definitely say that about Macon County with with you gentlemen you guys are definitely doing some some great work down there and it's it's been a pleasure chatting with you today Tim do you have any as we kind of start to to roll things down do you have any you know final thoughts about big food or anything regarding that one thing is and I forgot to mention this but right now we have higher samples being tested at North Carolina State University okay we have had some that Robin Lynch had a tick with her back to Canada and had them and they're gonna say there is such a thing as a big food but if they was it meets all the criteria so we have got that going on now so one thing is it's one thing to look them up on you know do your research online and and that helps a lot but getting in the woods you know is is the biggest thing be sure you're prepared because a lot of people that see them they don't never want to go to the woods again and then there's a first that can't wait to get back in there and see if we can see another one but the main thing is stay safe that you know it's there's a lot of things out there that besides big food and like you said we won't get in all of that but there's other things out there besides big food that can that can cause trouble I've actually been snake bit ahead so just be careful and enjoy it absolutely Tim I've got one more question for you that I just thought of and then I will let you go when you sense just because you have found multiple research areas what are criteria you keep in mind when you're trying to find a new research area um one thing that seems I don't know if it's coincidence or whatever you want to call it but one thing is a food solution I have found a lot of my research areas by finding places I wanted to hunt put in trail cameras out finding deer in the areas or we have quite a few wild hikes that kind of stuff but that is they have to have food and they have to have water and that is the two of the biggest things to look forward when a lot of times when I want to find that I'll start deer hunting and then there's a learn more about the area I'll start finding trees that are broke you know the excess made structures made where they've woven things together and and that kind of stuff but this episode is brought to you by spreeker the platform responsible for a rapidly spreading condition known as podcast brain symptoms include buying microphones you don't need explaining our ss feeds to confused relatives and saying things like sorry I can't talk right now I'm editing audio if this sounds familiar you're probably already a podcaster the good news is spreeker makes the whole process simple you record your show uploaded once and spreeker distributes it everywhere people listen apple podcasts Spotify and about it doesn't apps your cousins swears are the next big thing even better spreeker helps you monetize your show with ads meaning your podcast might someday pay for well more microphones start your show today at spreeker.com spreeker because if you're going to talk to yourself for an hour you might as well publish it the biggest thing is they have to have food and they have to have water. Sheldor they can make any order especially around here there's a lot of a lot of caves a lot of rock cliffs and stuff for them to get in here in making county I think they stay here year round they don't my great-three when the reason I say that because we'll have encounters year round have among our audio recorders year round but I think the biggest thing that you want to look for is a food source because something that has to have a lot of food. Good good advice to keep in mind when looking for a new place but Tim thank you so much for coming on are there ways that people can keep up to date with what you're doing or you kind of under the you know under the wire like you're kind of just keep off to the side or their ways even people can reach out to you oh yes sir anybody that wants to get a hold on me that can get a hold on me here on Facebook you can get a hold on your tick tock I do have you two channelists the same as my tick tock but if you want to get a hold on me and got questions or anything like that since there's been so much stuff going on on Facebook with fake things just mention that how mention big and I'll know that you've heard it from the podcast and that kind of stuff and I'll be more than glad to accept friend request and chat with you anytime you know that you've got a question and they're just on the chat or whatever just feel free I mean I'm not one of them that tries to stay here it ain't that I'm trying to make a name or nothing like that I can hear less about that but I don't see no use in hiding either especially if you can help other people you know that's what it should be all about helping other people and getting anxious absolutely well Tim thank you so much for for chatting today and we'll have to keep in touch in the future to see what you guys get into next but thank you oh you're more than welcome and thank you thank you all the listeners and as soon as we get some information back on what the house samples turn up at North Carolina State I'll definitely get up with you and and give you the report on that absolutely I'll be looking forward to that thank you Tim thank you sir and have a great evening have you ever heard all the accounts of big-foot activity around Oak Ridge Oregon and you think to yourself man I would love to get out in those woods and experience it for myself well guess what this year you can if this is interesting to you stay tuned because it's pretty cool Sasquatch Summer Fest is coming up July 10th through the 11th 2026 it's going to be even better than the previous years reason number one I'll be one of the speakers it's going to be wild I'll probably I'll say this there may be stuff you haven't heard anywhere else because let's just say sometimes it's uh what you just got to be there we'll leave it that more about looking for big-foot in the Oak Ridge woods now check this out you may know Jason Kenzie from his documentary series searching for Sasquatch well this year you can not only go to the festival but you can also sign up for a track deep in the wild forest outside of Oak Ridge with Jason Kenzie to the big-foot spots to look for big-foot there's only eight spots to sign up for this and yes this will also be filmed for the next chapter in his documentary series which is searching for Sasquatch this is a once-in-a-lifetime deal it's just it's going to be a wild wild experience to get a ticket head on over to Sasquatch summerfest.com and listeners can use the code BSP like big-foot society podcast in order to get a two-day pass for the price of a one-day pass so thanks to Priscilla for giving me that code so that you guys can can get a little a little help with the cost there appreciate that Priscilla I hope to see you at the booth in Oak Ridge this year we can talk about your encounter was able to talk to so many people last year and the year before it is an incredible time you're not going to want to miss it and I'll see you there before we wrap this episode I want to say something directly to a very specific group of listeners if you're in the military any branch or forces and if you've seen something that no one can explain or if you're a national park ranger or forestry worker who's been told to stay quiet if you're a pilot who's seen something strange down on the ground or if you're with the FBI a federal agency or working intelligence and you stumbled upon something you're not allowed to talk 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