White Mountains of New Hampshire: Cloaking, Telepathy, and a Massive Forest Encounter

You're listening to Bigfoot Society and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In this show we go beyond the campfire stories to bring you first-hand encounters from people who say they've seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere and each one leaves us with more questions than answers. These are the voices of the people who've lived it, so settle in because today you'll hear another account that just might change the way you see the woods forever. So stay with us. All right, Bigfoot Society, welcome back to another episode. This time I've got the privilege of talking to a new friend from New Hampshire. His name is Johnny. Johnny specifically his background, and we'll be getting more into that for sure. But Johnny is a psychic that has also had Bigfoot encounters along the way. And we got connected. I believe you had watched a few episodes on the YouTube channel side of things, Johnny? Is that right here? That's correct, yes. Okay, very good, very good. Well, welcome to the show. And how are you doing today, Johnny? I'm good, thank you, Sal. Oh, I'm doing good. We're actually having, man, yesterday in Iowa, we had 65 degrees. We were loving it. People were wearing shorts in February. You can't blame them. Yeah, not here. We're still below freezing. Absolutely. Yeah, I know how New Hampshire and New England can get in the wintertime and get pretty chilly out there. But, you know, Johnny, we were talking before the recording started, and this is going to be an interesting episode. It's going to be a fun one. But you actually wanted to ask me a question before we got started. I do. And there is a reason to this. You know, I've watched a lot of your podcasts as well of other people's, you know, Arla, Fred, etc., etc., everything. I wanted to know, what do you think the forest people are? Do you think that they are? Because there's two worlds here. People say that they are a spiritual being and others say that they are just flesh and blood and they are part ape, et cetera. What do you actually think the truth is? Yeah, absolutely. It's a good question. And this is off of what I have experienced so far. So from what I've experienced in places like Iowa and Oregon, I know it is some kind of physical creature because it can do things such as eat fruit and leave footprints but it is also something that can really affect energy in certain areas and affect the way that certain people react in such a way where it might be able to even unlock things that the person can do after being in the same area with it. It can also affect things like batteries or other energetic type things. And so now this will change if I go back to Oregon or other places this year and I see one walk out of a portal or something. I mean, it's a thing where I'm learning along with listeners as I go. But that's really the easiest way I could probably say it right now. Perfect. So my intent is to add parts to the jigsaw puzzle, if you will. So to segue into this, firstly I'm going to say is that it's a real shame that modern man from probably the 60s onward found it necessary to ignore the beliefs of indigenous peoples. even early settlers that came to America who saw these beings, had interactions with these beings and at some point the government decided to spin the narrative that everyone was crazy, that these things didn't exist so that they could control what they didn't know. And so it really highlights It's a hubris of men sometimes when we try and tell a native people who have dealt with these beings for thousands of years, they're just seeing bears on their hind legs. So how I got to this point is this. When I was just a baby, and this is – I was just a baby. I couldn't even move. I looked sideways at the wall as far as I could turn my head and a face came out of the wall and was glowing white and it looked down at my brother and it looked at me and it smiled and its eyes seemed to envelop me and then I just saw what looked like stars and I don't know if you're aware of astral travelling but the next thing you know as a wee baby I was astral travelling outside the house and along the street around the street lamps and I'd keep coming back in and out. And this happened every night for probably a year at least. So I already was experiencing different things. Before I could even walk, I would see people in front of me bending down making noises and I was so frustrated because I knew I understood what they were saying, but I had to wait to remember. I remember having these thoughts. So I've had many, many, many lifetimes. I've been reincarnated many, many, many times. I remember a lot of them. I should say a collage of pictures and experiences from each of them. I've had quite a few lifetimes here in America. I have come back I've come back this time to help and to also to complete certain karmic tasks that we do when we're basically fine tuning what we do as a spirit on the other side so growing up I had an affinity towards animals, if I was sitting inside my mother's house I always knew when someone moved into the neighbourhood because their pets would walk in the back door and come up to me at the table, you know, cat, dog, you know, et cetera. Then I'm also a Ngāpui, which is one of the largest tribes in New Zealand, so I'm Māori, I'm indigenous, and I always knew about what we called nature spirits, or the patupaeare here, which were, to us, is as common as, you know, you mention a dog or a cat, but we don't always get to see them. Some people do. So I always had this background of things, if you will, which already had me thinking outside the box. And like I just, my mind was always out there, my persona always activated around this box, like telepathy, etc. My mother used to be able to move objects when she was a child. So I used to, when I was 10, 12, I would experience with telepathy with female friends. I would think of colors or shapes, and they would come back, and then they would do the same thing to me. So we were always working with psychic energy. I also had unfortunately the misfortune to see darker entities not just people who are caught between the veil and haven't passed over but negative energies that have always been part of our reality if you will some of these used to scare me at night and gave me PTSD for many years after that so so i guess what i'm saying is that i've always had this these experiences outside the box that many people operate in and and don't wish to look outside of and i've always been told that i gave off um i exude my aura is very it's a yellowy white and it exudes off me and is quite noticeable to people who can see auras, etc. And spirits. So spirits are drawn to me as well. So as I got older, I would help people with, well, you may say there's ghosts, but people who had hauntings in their homes, etc. And I would help get rid, or help not get rid of, it's a bad term, I would help pass these spirits over. Or even places I went to, like I did a lot of gold mining, looking for gold in the deserts in Arizona, and periodically you'd run into some of these people who are caught in a loop, who are just, they've passed over and they're just caught in a loop going round and around and around, and I would help them to move over. so that's kind of my background if you will now when I moved to New Hampshire let me just give you this one I've also surfed my entire life and I've always known I've had runners with great white sharks I've always known when great white sharks were in the water because I could feel the predatory gaze upon me. And so did other surfing colleagues of mine. And it became so matter-of-factual that you just kind of like go, oh, okay, shark in the water, and we'd either get out or we'd just paddle a little bit into shallower water, you know. That's the same thing I have felt in the forest on only a couple of occasions. So when I came to New Hampshire, I didn't even think that Sasquatch was here. I had no idea. None. Not a thing. I always thought that they were, you know, like people do, West Coast, Oregon, Washington, etc. Now, when I did a lot of hiking, I do a lot of hiking. and when I first got here, I would hike up a road. It's just a forestry road. It's four miles up, so it's eight miles return. And I used to love going up there late in the afternoons or early in the mornings because I would never run into anybody else. And I started to feel like I was being watched. now as I mentioned before we have a belief in our in my indigenous world of the spiritual fairy people and I used to see glimpses of them back in New Zealand where I come from if I was running through the bush with a surfboard heading for the beach and they're like little white I would see little white silhouettes of a person maybe three feet tall if that, and I would see them flick very quickly behind trees or bushes. And the first time this happened to me, I was just like, oh, oh, wow, I just saw nature's spirit. Like, wow, cool. But just partial, you know. And this became so commonplace, you just take it for granted. It's like you see a dog walk across the road. go oh yeah i think i just saw nature spirits so when i came here i thought it was the same thing so i'm i'm walking up this road and i felt like i was being watched and i thought there's nature spirits here but this this feeling of being watched felt like someone had their hand on my shoulder and I would keep turning around, just look, just look. Bigfoot never came into it. Then I'm thinking, okay, I'm in New Hampshire, I'm in America, bears, it's a bear. I'm like, oh crap, bear. So I'd carry on walking along going, hey bear, hey bear. And then I started to hear the rustling following me. Hey bear, hey bear. now I walked this particular forest road quite often I would hike it because it's up, it goes up quite a ways so I started carrying a handgun on the front of my chest in a chest harness and I was going up one day and I heard the rustling again and I thought, it's a bear so I turned and as soon as I put my hand on the pistol I felt this focused energy like whoa what are you doing and I stopped and that it really it caused two more because I was like what was that you know because the psychic side of me I feel different energies from things so it was like it was almost like you said to me Johnny what are you doing oh oh what Jeremiah oh sorry nothing was like that so I thought okay uh all right so I kept going and the rustling had stopped and I went up came back down about a a week later I was up there and I there's a little stream there and I walked over to the stream and when I hike I'm in a bit of a not say outside myself I just kind of let my mind wander I've always done this so much so that if someone walked up behind me went boo I'd probably leave six feet because my mind is just kind of out there I'm just thinking and I stopped by the stream and I looked up this towards this ridge and I said out loud I said oh so they come down here and come across the stream and then they go oh probably up that way to the road and i caught myself because i was who's they like i don't know where that thought came from right i don't know where it came from so i continued up up the up the um the road i got a little further up and there was were trees coming close to the road and what popped into my head was ambush spot ambush ambush ambush and I kind of went oh so I skirted to the other side of the road as far as I could and walked past but the funny thing was I got the pictures of deer in my head and I'm like all right so maybe something grabs deer here so it is a bear it's a bear and I turned and looked as I went past these bushes but instead of looking at our level I looked up and I don't know why I looked up and I expected to see movement up here and not at the five or six foot level and that also threw me as well so I was very perplexed And when I was back down at the car, I was kind of thinking, what am I picking up? This is really, really weird. But it felt like I was being guided, if you will. Guided, if that's the word. So still didn't think about Bigfoot. So I went to a different area because this place had started to spook me just a little bit, just these weird feelings. And I keep thinking there must be a lot of beer up there that are coming down through the bushes, which is why I'm getting spooked. So I went to this other place and I thought, this is nice. So I start walking around this fire road and went over an old wooden bridge. and there's a little stream, and I looked up it, and something that I do is I push my mind out. When I'm, I've always done this. It's basically like scanning with my head, with the energy in my head. I push it out, and I see if I touch something. It's kind of hard to explain, but it's something I've always done, and I was there, I guess it comes maybe from surfing, from scanning the water the area looking for for a threat that you can't see because it's underneath the water and so i was like okay looking at the stream i thought what's up there and i was just pushing my head out and i hit something and it's almost like your your mind touches like my mug your mind just goes plop and i went it wasn't just the fact i felt something i felt something recoil which means that it felt my probing with my mind and that really threw me because i went what is that and i didn't hear anything else you know i didn't see anything doing noises carried on down down this road for about a mile came back up there nothing following me I walked past the same spot but now this spot it had a feeling like I was being watched Not the feelings that we hear about in other people we've had where it's like, this was just a very intent like, hmm, what are you? Like this. I hopped in my jeep and I had that tingling up the back of my neck and down my spine and by now I'm just going, you know, my spider senses are just going off and I'm like, what is here? I start to drive away, I go around two corners and I'm thinking, wonder what it is? and then my ears went funky, almost like I was underwater. There was pressure in my car and something went boom against the back of the Jeep and the Jeep rocked like this and I went, excuse the French, and pulled over and drove into some branches on the right-hand side, like they were just down on the road. and of course you know Darwin award winner here I got out which is what you do I got out and I looked around and the energy was dissipating but I felt something watching me down a bank and I felt something watching me from up and up on a bank and the trees to my to my left and so I just I apologized to whatever it was that was there because I didn't know what it was I thought maybe it's maybe it's just like really negative spirits that have more energy than I realize etc etc apologized profusely got back into my jeep and drove off and it wasn't until I got onto the road that the thought popped in my head and I went I can remember driving going is there Sasquatch here? Just like that, it just went pop in my head. And I drove down and the next day I spoke to a friend of mine and I said, hey, this is a really weird question. They were like, what? I said, is there, you know, like Bigfoot here in New Hampshire? And they looked at me and were like, I've heard there could be. And I just went, so that was when the penny dropped from a great height and I realized they were here then I I hiked up a couple of ski slopes after this now in hindsight I didn't do it of my own volition I think I was asked to come up to come closer so they get a better look at me like I said I give off this energy which attracts things and so I went hiking off up the ski slope and I could feel eyes on me so I was walking up. So I'm walking on going, hey bear, hey bear, hey bear. Apparently I thought there were bears everywhere. But I was still getting this nagging, maybe there is Bigfoot here. And I walked right up the back as far as you go, at the very top of this lift, right up against the bush. and there's a ridge that runs up which you'd have to bushwhack to get to and when I hike in New Zealand that's something that I would do. Never use trails, you just bushwhack. And I walked up to the trees and it's quite thick, you know, and I kind of went, I wonder what's in here. So I pulled some branches across and I went, whoa. and it was a wall of energy that ran along these trees at this very at the very top of this mountain where everything stopped whether the lift stopped everything you couldn't go any further and it felt sticky I could feel it and I backed away and I felt like I could feel like reverberations Like you shake something like rubber and it starts wobbling away somewhere. And I stood there like going, what the? And what I got in my head was, I think I just eluded something. So I started to get slightly creeped out. and because all these over the last couple of weeks a couple of months all these different things happening are really starting to get me a little not say jittery but I was kind of like okay this is all very different so I start walking back down the trail and I spun around because I felt like something was coming towards me and for a brief second I thought I saw a grey gorilla you know how gorillas run they run on all fours but with their head up like this barreling towards me and I went like I shook my head and shut my eyes and opened them again and it was gone and I remember thinking is that some kind of a bear? I mean I wasn't an expert on bears but it just but it was gone and I was like what was that and then I could feel the eyes on me I continued down before the the the ski trail starts to drop and I felt it again I spun around again and I saw this glimpse again and it was gone and I'm thinking it looks like a gorilla just that that whole thing but I but there was a funny it's only in hindsight remember like there was a funny gate to it it looked a little wonky if you will it looked kind of like this head up like this but it was kind of like it looked strange but it was moving quick so by now I'm really starting to think okay there is something up here and it's not a bear and things really progressed from there. Any questions you wish to ask me? Oh, yeah, absolutely. I'm still a big – so you grew up in New Zealand, not to go too far back. Yes. I've talked to at least one individual from there. And can you share the – because it sounds like the area that you grew up in was pretty wild. Can you share the general area where that was in New Zealand? The west coast of Auckland, which is all the heavy, all the black sand beaches. It's a rugged coast. if you want to get anywhere if you want to surf anywhere you paddle around the headlands to get to certain places back then there was nothing if you got in trouble if you got eaten no one's here to save you you know it's um yeah I was gonna guess because I was like it's probably the island that has Auckland in it and because all the Bigfoot stuff I've heard of is like north of Auckland or like in that peninsula that's to the west of Auckland and then, you know, or to the east of Auckland, I should say. But yeah, that area there, there's, it's Mount... Mount Maunganui? Mount Mayhew, is that it? Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yep. Yeah, yeah. That's where some really interesting humanoid type things are, Bigfoot type things. New Hampshire is such an interesting area. I mean, I get a lot of reports from northern New Hampshire, White Mountains, but even down in the southeast. And it's almost like there's a line or a trail that goes from northern New Hampshire up by Quebec, and it just kind of goes all the way down, but it sticks to the east side, at least the sightings. And if you can't share the areas where you're having things happen. That is no problem. I totally want to respect that as well. I'm going to say it's within a 20-mile diameter of Mount Washington. Okay. That makes sense. Absolutely. Another question I wanted to ask is, and this might be a total just we can talk about it, but it will just rabbit trail us like crazy, but you said that sometimes you get a message to go somewhere. How do you usually receive that? So it's back then when this happened, when I didn't realize that I'd gone, why I'd gone. I just thought I was just going hiking up the ski trail. But it's only when I'm sitting back down and thinking about the events of the day, how I felt. they realized that it was more of a come up here come up here so one thing i used to do when i was 14 or 15 with lady friends i'd tell them to go into another room and then i would mentally think at them and tell them to come to me and and it's and they would say they feel it in the center of the head right here like they're being pulled like there is a string and I'm pulling it. Okay? We can all do this, Jeremiah. We can all do this. This is just things that we have lost. But we haven't lost it. We just haven't learned to educate ourselves with these kind of things. So it's the same kind of principle. When they, if they, like telepathy, when they want to tell me something, some people will hear words I'll hear words usually at night I'll hear my name called when it's 2am in the morning and I'm like go away, go away go away, I'm sleeping but I'll get words that will be printed across my vision inside behind my eyes and it will be very clear laser etched Times New Roman you know, like for instance I had one where they said what are you doing here and just like that's just another form of telepathy for whatever works see for you it might not work for you for you you may need to have pictures etc but i'll also get pictures as well like um i was walking a spot and um one of the forest people, all of a sudden I get a shaggy, shaggy sort of half face and a shoulder pops into my head right here. And I know that right over here at my 11 o'clock is where he is. He's standing in the brush. So, again, to me, this is just normal. I just run with it. I've had one that said to me, wait, and I got in front of my face again, wait. But it was as winter was just starting, and I said, no, I'm cold, and I'm not covered in here. And I walked back to my Jeep, got in my Jeep, and I needed to drive half a mile. And when I got back to where I was going, there's a little shed, and I hopped out and something went on top of the shed. Now there's no wind. There's no wind. And so I'm like the worst thing that people can do is to try and fob that off as something else because all you're doing is handicapping their ability to listen and to take in information which they want you to do so this thing went bam and i was like okay i just said hello to whatever was out there so hello over my jeep and then wind come whipping up around behind me and it was like swirling so hard and i kind of froze and i could feel something standing right behind me and all i did was i'm still facing my car, I went, hello, and I turn around, and there was just a massive leaves going round and round the circle, and then all of a sudden, they just went plop, and gone. Wow. And I felt something move away. But they'll do that to you, because they want, if they're interested in a person, or someone who they find to be different than all the others, they'll do little things to get you interested, to help and also to see whether or not you are prepared to understand what they can actually do. Because what really irks them is when people call them apes or gorillas or, you know, et cetera, et cetera. That really does irk them. So when they find someone who they can show certain little other things, like shape-shifting, et cetera, they'll do this. I've had one, and here's the other thing. I'm probably going to get too far ahead. You know, I've had one come up through me through thick trees, thick probably two three some four inches thick super thick that we have to do this to go through right come straight at me from about 40 feet away and come right up next to me in a straight line now i wasn't looking but i heard i heard him coming like But the thing was, he made the noises so I knew he was coming, because they don't have to. And he came right up next to me, and he was just beyond arm's reach, but he was in the full predator thingy, which isn't the swirly one that you see in the movies. it's more like a more like a um it's more like a scrumpled cellophane type look if you will like like cellophane it's kind of square bits like this it's kind of like a scrumpled cellophane but you can see through it but when you see through it it looks kind of wonky like like you know if there's a straight tree you see part of the trees here the other the other bit goes It's like this. It's like that. So he came through these trees without having to move anything. You know, and that was done to see what I would try and make of it because I know that when these kind of things happen and I stop and I think, I'm like, okay, how do they do that? And I think, I can feel them watching and listening They're waiting to see what my reaction is. They're the most gorgeous people, but they really do. And I just want to make it clear that you don't have to be psychic or use your psychic abilities or be aware of them for this to happen. A person just needs to be prepared to accept things that they normally wouldn't or at least entertain the thought that there are different things around them. That is extremely interesting to me. So, is another way of saying, so, okay, here's a thing that I've noticed so far. Yep. Where it is the people that go into this with certain... Expectations. Expectations or things that they have just shut down. They've been like, this will never happen in this way because it's not how it works. Those people never have encounters or any interactions of any kind. And so is that kind of another way of looking at it? Yeah. So I'd couple them and get very – like that particular one. now here's the kicker for that particular instance was I had a dodgy ankle so I wasn't moving too well I was laying on a ski pole and I saw the pixelation and I thought huh and I went to say Bigfoot and I know they don't particularly like that I went to say Bigfoot Then I caught myself and I went, forest people, forest people. On cue, I looked down. It's like pulling up your jeans pant leg. The pixelation went up to the knee and all I saw was long hair, a reddy brown hair, the ankles, and a big, long, flat foot. and all I got was was kind of like an impression of no you were going to say Bigfoot well there's a Bigfoot for you and I could see the dark nails the toenails were black the tops of the feet were like like if you got very bony hands the bones went all the way down like they were so you could tell that the foot is used to um severe manipulation if you will you could tell just the way the bone structure was Now this was a kind of a wet muddy day. His foot went down and it was a big kind of a clay, wet clay spot and it slid. No sound. And it looked like his foot was actually an inch or so above the actual dirt that it slipped on. and as i was watching and then everything withdrew and was gone and i didn't hear him take off but i turned around nothing there gone just gone no noise nothing he's he's actually a century um he's he's a century and he's always in this this one particular place um so it made me think think, okay, let me put this another way. When they have the ability to, when you and I are not here, Jeremiah, when we've passed over and we're waiting to be reborn again, we are basically just a ball of light. We can take a form that we're used to, like a human form, etc., but we really are just balls of energy they can do that in the now and they can they can move through trees you'll see their outline but it's not really there they are hold on hold the phone okay so you're you're saying you've actually heard of that before where like you can see the outline of them in trees i've seen yeah i've seen it tell me more about that please so i've seen where where you and this is what got me because you know when you're bushwhacking you're doing this you're doing this and the way i grew up you you learn to walk through trees and stuff very quietly move brushes aside and so you're not making noise it's just what i do it and go crashing through and I've seen one come across rapidly in front of me and I know and these are sentries I know the area that they're in and you I've seen just the outline just almost like if you had a torch behind them it's you see the outline the moving you see the arms swing and the legs etc but there's no clearing there it's thick thick trees and they just go straight through now now that's that and what okay what i got from them was and when i when i talk when i say when i when i get information from them if i push something out to say one of the elders and i've met several of the elders I get impressions back. Impressions are just a form of telepathy. And you just have to trust. You know your sixth sense, when you know something's wrong, and you think, ah, I don't know if I should do that. And sure enough, something happens. You're trusting your psychic side of you. Same thing here. Once you trust the impressions that you're getting they come thick and fast because they're trying to find a way of communicating with you all right but what i got was that that's why they can move so rapidly through thick forested places because they just basically go they turn it back into a ball of energy but they have that physical that physical looking outline an outlier if you will they get through to where they want to go, then they just basically solidify again. Wow. That is really, really wild stuff, Johnny. Yeah, that's what I said. This is going to be a little different. So I need to share something with you. And you may have heard this already. Sure. And listeners, I know you've probably heard it, but I'm going to share it again just because it's relevant. So the first time I went out to Oregon two years ago, and I was out there near Oak Ridge, Willamette National Forest. It's a long story. I had to go to the hospital because of my legs got messed up, either an infection or something else. And then I had to cancel a lot of interviews last day. And then I was very kind of discouraged. And I was like, you know what? I'm just going to go for a ride around the reservoir south of town where there's been a lot of activity, have a burger, whatever. And I remember driving by a pine tree that was covered in vines. Before I had driven by this, an individual at the festival had been like, hey, if you want to have a sighting, just say in your mind, Bigfoot, I'm ready to see you. If you're ready, just say something like that. I'm like, okay, you know what? Forget it. I'm just going to do it. You know, I don't care anymore. So I said that half a second later, I drove by a pine tree that was covered with vines and there was what looked like a silhouette of an eight foot tall Sasquatch that was there for a second and then it disappeared. And I was like, holy mackerel, I'm either going insane or I just saw something or like I had a fever at the time or it was something like that. It was weird. You put it out there. They are just so used to dealing with people who are negative, people who want to hurt them, people who are doing all the wrong sorts of things. When they know that you're interested, they're just waiting for a chance for that person to go you know like you just said like you know what i believe i'd like to see you guys and bang instead of running around the bush banging on trees with a baseball bat hooting and hollering which by the way they they that is their entertainment They think that's just hilarious. That's them watching TV. You know, that is when people do see things when they are ready. I don't know if you've heard the saying, when you're ready, they'll come to you. You don't have to go and find them. I had, there's one who I'm very fond of. I pulled up at this one particular area and I said something in my language out to the trees basically a greeting and an understanding of everything that they are and wishing them a blessing because they're very religious people too by the way very religious they believe in God or the source and I just said And I looked down and I looked up. And here's a kicker. So at the time, and this is something I want to raise later too. At the time, I was suffering from a pituitary tumor, a large one the size of a small avocado that was right back in here underneath my brain. Yeah, I'm going to bring it up later, especially with regards to the late Jeff Meldrum. May he rest in peace. And I had said when I was talking, I said, listen, it's getting late in the day. I know you're here. I can't see you. But I said, if you did, you'd have to step out in the open because I won't be able to see you against the darker trees, etc. You'd be blurry. So anyway, so I finished this and I'm blah, blah, blah, blah. And I'm looking down and I thought, all right. I look up and he was standing there. and he is between I can say 9 and 11 feet tall and he's massive he's well over 2 tons his legs are like tree trunks his arms are long he's just it's hard to when you say he's huge it's hard to tell someone just how big but his one leg was as wide as my body like he's massive, absolutely massive but he had this grin on his face like kind of scrunched up like he was going like this with a smirk but none of what I got back from him like he was standing stock still and he didn't even flinch because I got, he didn't want to scare me so he stood as perfectly still as he could with no other energy coming off him just so I could look at him I had enough time to go oh gee and I looked down like am I seeing things I looked up he was gone. Boom. But when he was there, he had a black line about 14 inches wide, a shimmering black outline all the way around his shoulders, up over his head and down the other side. So he stood out like a sore thumb against the darker trees. And it shimmered. And I know he did that. He was able to do that so that I could see him better because I'd said that my eyesight wasn't the greatest at that time these are some of the things I've dealt with and these are why there's I get this, there is I won't even tell you about the human ones just yet there are two there's those who are like want to be the capitalists. They're like capitalists. They want to integrate into society. They use all their energy or a lot of it. Then there are those who have a hierarchical structure which wants to make sure that all those below them don't have access to the tools that they are born with that they can develop. And there's a control base here. There's still control, right? So where I am in the White Mountains, this is like, I call it a fortress. This whole area is a fortress. It's like a military base. And if we, because people view them as being solitary or small family groups, yeah, they're small family groups, but there's a ton of them. and there are sentries everywhere everywhere like just just like humans if you walk up any trail there's one watching you right you go further on up there'll be another one watching you and they'll they don't necessarily have to have eyes on you to know where you are there is you know i told you earlier on about how how i can push out my energy and i could i touch something and I went, ooh, what was that? They did the same thing, but on a larger, larger scale that's very hard to comprehend. They can just stand there like this surveying the area and they just sweep. They just push this energy out and just sweep like this. You take that, you take an eyesight where they can see what is better than a hawk or an eagle's. they always know where people are that's why I always laugh when I've seen some of these people running off around in the bush etc making noises etc and trying to find them they're being trailed all the time by the centuries you know so anyway so this particular one, he showed how he has control of energy around him. Now, not too long after this, and I'd had a lot of this going on when I'd be out hiking, that's when I got diagnosed with a large tumour right underneath my brain, up behind here. And I'd heard, when I started kind of researching, looking into the subject of them being out this way, I can't remember where I saw it, but I saw something where some researchers in the past had passed away or had had pituitary tumors because there is an energy that Sasquatch give off that can affect growth. so I found this very interesting and after I had mine removed activity where I was going to stopped and I had the distinct impression that they weren't allowed to come near me where I'd been going I could feel it then when I saw that Jeff Melderman passed away and what he passed away from. And I went, ha. So when they are focusing energy on, say, like people, researchers who are pushing into areas which they really shouldn't be going into because it's their backyards, basically. and they're focusing on them. They're pushing up energy, which is way beyond our ken of understanding and some of the energy can be damaging. It can be damaged. Think of it like a cell phone tower. You're not going to go and have a picnic 20 feet from a humongous cell phone tower, not unless you want to have kids here again or your wife wants to have a baby. Right. It's the exact same principle. They can give off a frequency and energy, which can be very damaging. But those that know how to use it can also dial it back so that people like Allah. Right. So Allah has she has a beautiful relationship with the forest people. This example. Sorry, real quick. I need to throw it in just so that it's – so it is publicly documented that Dr. Meldrum did pass away from brain cancer, but we're not saying that it's a certain type of brain cancer. It was just documented, so I just want to throw that in there real quick, but please continue. Yeah. so it's just like Allah has a relationship and I'm sure there are other people who have close relationships with family groups etc and they aren't affected they aren't affected so there is I've met several of the elders and what I get is that if they're like I said, if they're watching people who as far as they're concerned have no business looking at their structures or pulling at things or trying to unwind things because it's like having, you've got a beautiful backyard with your barbecue, your swing set for your kids and all of a sudden you've got the neighbours come over your fence, they're playing on your swing set, they're pulling grills out of your barbecue and looking at it, etc. and you're standing in your window going, what the? It's the same thing. Now you've left, these people left all their smell, their DNA, all over all this stuff. And of course, the forest people are just like, well, thanks. Thanks for ruining that. And they get a real pickle. And when they get in a pickle with something or someone, it's hard for them to get rid of it. So yeah, that's something that we shouldn't do. It is a topic that's very near to me as well just because when I was very young I had actually a brain tumor as well that I had to have removed. I was one of the first pediatric cancer cases in the 80s where they actually were successful. I mean, they were just literally throwing darts at a wall and figuring out how to do it. And yeah, it was non-Hodgkin's lymphoma. So I've always, it's a pattern that I've noticed. I mean, there are multiple individuals. You can, listeners can look this up, that have had cancer. is a very interesting pattern. One of the ones I see where there's, you know, a lot of researchers maybe having cancer, but also I've noticed a lot of witnesses have, some of them have had some kind of traumatic head injury as well. Yep. Yep. You've noticed that as well? Yep. Yeah. So what I since that what I said to the elders so there are a couple of elders These are they ancient I don't care what people, the timelines that they put on, people say they live to. These are ancient beings, ancient, ancient beings. And I just put it out there. I just said listen this is how it's going to be I said I enjoy they come to me they like coming to me because they like feeling the energy there's something about my energy that attracts them which they like not just them but other forest people and I said to these elders, I put it out there, I said, listen I want to keep doing this. Like Jeremiah, I don't go out into the trees, the forest looking for them. I don't have to. And to me, this is just my opinion, I think it's rude. I think it's rude. I don't mind walking around trails, but I'm not going to go off into the trees and bush waking to find them. I just let them come to me and so I just said listen I don't mind you or your followers etc coming close to me to feel the energy etc that flows through me but they have to protect me from the particular frequencies that can harm me because I'm fragile and I said, I just put it up, I said, and I know that they can do it. They know how to do it. But because they can be a little heavy-handed, et cetera, by the time they try and turn it off, it's too late. The damage is done for us, to humans, because we're very, that part of our brain, the pituitary area, yeah, it's, yeah. mine was, like I said, mine was the size of a small avocado if you're looking at me, it looked like I have an avocado in front of my face here and luckily it came out in one piece it came out through the nostril, came out in one big thing basically so things have, from that aspect things have changed, I felt a change now they can visit me whenever and they can visit are you familiar with remote viewing i've heard of it yeah okay remote viewing is something that i used to do um i still do i'm so i saw delhi with it i it's basically you push your mind out and you go to a certain place and you can the military uses it. Russia does it. American military uses it. So it's nothing new. They can do it makes us look like stumbling babies in the sand pit. Their version of it is, this is why I laugh when, well I shouldn't say laugh, but when I see people around there, they're okay, we're going to do this tomorrow, you know, they're planning it all out in a room somewhere, and they have no idea that looming over them, watching them through the veil, if you will, are usually the elders watching and listening to everything that those people are going to be doing the next day. The secret's already out. They already know. I'll give you an example. I was when I first moved here once I realised that they were here I did the same thing I tried to remote view a particular area about three or four miles from where I am and it's like it's like you're flying over your mind is flying over trees I do it with my eyes closed it's like you're flying over trees and all of a sudden you just get pulled down to something. And I went scooting through trees and all of a sudden there was a shape there and I thought, wow, forest person. And this is 10 o'clock at night. Now it was looking from, so this side, it turned around and looked straight at me and I thought, it's just, it's looking around, it doesn't know I'm there. And then it went like this. and I backed back and that went like this so it could see it could see my energy where I was, where I projected myself through remote viewing and at the time I stopped like I opened my eyes and went whoa but the last thing I saw was it looked pissed, it looked seriously pissed like I just walked into its in through its back door into its house. I kind of, oh, well, okay, won't do that again. The next night, I heard this. I was up at 1 a.m. I heard what I thought was someone doing burnouts, like a high frequency, like a screeching sound, or like a big rusty wheel screeching like this. It was faint, but I heard it getting closer and closer. and closer and i was like what is that and i walked out onto my balcony and then it was i thought that is getting close and i thought i thought was someone doing sounded like someone doing a burnout on a motorcycle or a car then i thought maybe it's like like some big someone's doing something using big mechanical wheels or something or steel that's what it sounded like doesn't sound like a screaming woman although i could i could see a correlation there somehow it got louder and then it stopped and i was like what i'm standing on the balcony it's dark and then it started up and it was behind where i live and it went way up and i by now i'm like whoa whoa whoa and then it went up high and then it came down this is the only time it did it came down and it turned into this humongous roar and i felt it through my chest through my head, everything, like someone was shaking me. And I went, whoa. And I actually crouched. I found I had actually physically crouched down a bit because I thought something was coming through the wall. And they just went dead quiet. And that was it. And it was who I bothered decided to come and pay me a visit. But here's the thing. it followed a trail of energy breadcrumbs if you will how the hell do you do that it followed it's the only explanation I can have is it knew exactly where I had originated from this psychic stream and followed it all the way back again questions and it is um it really makes makes you wonder uh one if we'll ever have the answers to these questions but it's like the more i talk to people there are some really weird patterns coming out oh yeah so so so weird um man i don't know i i really i i just i just don't know but i mean the way that you're talking about how you're asking um that pretty much they don't um hurt us um i mean that's that's pretty incredible that's that's a new new one for me but i think definitely worth worth considering? They manipulate, they are masters of manipulating energy. That is all, they really are. If you look at them, if you stand back and go, this here is an energy creature. It's not flesh and blood. It can turn into flesh and blood, but it's effectively an energy being that can manipulate into different things. I've seen them in the form of crows, ravens, chipmunks, squirrels, and I've also, those are other stories, I can tell you another time if you want, and I've also dealt with them when they were in human form as well, and that's very entertaining, and I have seen one turn into a deer, so it's, yeah, they find me, I don't want to sound like I'm blowing my own trumpet or anything, It's just that I think the way that I have approached it and just let everything just happen and just take it for, not take it for granted, but just take it, accept everything that happens, even no matter how weird it is. It's like they just up the ante even more. Like, okay, you think that was cool? Check this out. And that's kind of what it's like. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think I'm at the point where. Can you have me committed? No, no. Stuff is starting to happen when I go out to areas, but it's like you have to go through that final barrier. I mean, there was a point in Oregon where I was out in the woods and I was like, hey, if there's anything here, make a noise. And I got wood knocks back within a second. Yep. And then I tried it again, and it was like whatever it was, it was like 20 feet out in the woods. And I just couldn't do it. I was like, I cannot walk into those woods. And I turned around and went back to the group. And every day, I'm like, what had happened if I had just gone out there? And it's crazy, man. All I would say to people, all they have to do is you stand, you talk to the forest because they're there. You tell them that you mean no harm. You believe that they're real. You have great respect for them, et cetera, et cetera. You would love to meet them or see them or if they would like to interact with you, please feel free. And you just say, I'm here. Just come. I'm open for anything. And you just put it out there. Because they will, because they are very, very curious, very curious. And like I said, they are more curious if us little wee people behave more like them and are more accepting of what they do. Because we're expecting them to accept what we do, and that gets right up their goat. That's what we do. We expect them to behave like we think they should. And they just go like, seriously? No. Wow. My goodness, John. This is an incredible conversation. We definitely have to stay in touch, I would think. But I just want to say thank you so much for coming on the show and sharing not only some encounters that you've had, but also some really interesting ways to think about this. And I think this is one of those that people could listen to more than once and really learn some interesting things. You're welcome. Thank you for coming on. There's going to probably be individuals that are curious if they can ask you a question or anything like that. How would you like to handle that? yeah I'd like yeah I mean if they're researchers yes I'd rather deal with researchers because if it's every other person then you might get a lot of people and I dealt with that kind of thing when I was helping to clear people's homes from spirits etc it was great to begin with but in the end it burnt me out I just got burnt out dealing with people so that's why I said listen yeah I don't mind but I would like to keep it to like just a research so if they want to know something or get my take on something then yeah I'd be happy to do so fantastic tell you this mate though when you see them in human form that's a trip that's a trip that's a real trip oh my goodness yeah we will definitely keep in touch and check in with you at a later time I think because that alone is probably a conversation in itself with human form Sasquatch. But, but Johnny, thank you so much for coming on and take care of yourself. Be safe out there. And we will definitely keep in touch for the future. Thank you. You too, Jeremiah. Good to talk to you, man. Take it easy. Have you ever heard all the accounts of Bigfoot activity around Oakridge, Oregon? And you think to yourself, man, I would love to get out in those woods and experience it for myself. Well, guess what? This year, you can. If this is interesting to you, stay tuned because it's pretty cool. Sasquatch Summerfest is coming up July 10th through the 11th, 2026. It's going to be even better than the previous year's reason number one. I'll be one of the speakers. It's going to be wild. I'll probably, I'll say this, there may be stuff you haven't heard anywhere else because let's just say sometimes it's, well, you just got to be there. We'll leave it at that. More about looking for Bigfoot in the Oak Ridge woods. Now check this out. 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