The Tony Kornheiser Show

“There and back again”

66 min
Feb 2, 20264 months ago
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Summary

Tony Kornheiser discusses his golf trip to Florida, a harrowing flight experience involving spilled water on his pants, and conversations with Michael Wilbon about NFL coaching changes, Bill Belichick's Hall of Fame snub, and the uncertain future of the Washington Post sports section with Sally Jenkins.

Insights
  • Legacy media sports sections face existential threats as revenue models collapse, forcing talented journalists to seek opportunities in digital-native outlets and subscription platforms
  • The NFL Hall of Fame voting system creates perverse incentives where voters must strategically withhold votes for worthy candidates to prevent others from being eliminated permanently
  • Professional sports journalism credentialing is shifting from institutional affiliation (major newspapers) to demonstrated quality across diverse platforms, making entry barriers both lower and more ambiguous
  • Winter weather disruptions reveal the value of community infrastructure and neighborly support, with snow removal becoming a critical service during extreme weather events
  • Men's professional tennis is consolidating around 2-3 dominant players while women's tennis remains competitive and unpredictable, suggesting different competitive dynamics at the elite level
Trends
Consolidation of sports media talent toward subscription-based platforms (New York Times, The Atlantic) and independent digital venturesShift from institutional credentialing to portfolio-based reputation in sports journalism and mediaExtreme weather events becoming more severe and unpredictable, requiring better infrastructure planningDominance of young elite athletes (Alcaraz in tennis) creating single-player-focused narratives in traditionally competitive sportsCorporate cost-cutting in legacy media framed as strategic repositioning rather than contractionMulti-platform skill requirements for new sports journalists (writing, podcasting, social media, video production)Audience migration from legacy media sites to Apple News, Substack, and independent platformsHall of Fame voting systems creating strategic voting behavior that obscures merit-based selection
Topics
Washington Post sports section restructuring and layoffsNFL Hall of Fame voting mechanics and Bill Belichick snubSports journalism career paths in digital media eraWinter Olympics coverage strategy and figure skating judging concernsProfessional golf course design and stewardshipMen's professional tennis dominance hierarchyWomen's professional tennis competitive parityCommercial airline safety and passenger experienceExtreme winter weather preparedness and community responseCVS loyalty program and shrinkflation in retail pricingNFL coaching carousel and hiring trendsKicker position isolation in professional footballTravel anxiety management and coping strategiesTire pressure monitoring in cold weatherGolf course accessibility and equipment requirements
Companies
Washington Post
Sports section facing potential elimination amid heavy cuts and revenue contraction under William Lewis leadership
New York Times
Identified as profitable and growing sports coverage alternative to struggling legacy media outlets
The Atlantic
Expanding sports coverage and hiring quality sports journalists as legacy outlets contract
CVS
Discussed for excessive receipt length and loyalty program coupons; Valentine's Day candy pricing example
Defector
Sports website built from scratch with terrific writers, representing new media sports journalism model
Bleacher Report
Mentioned as alternative sports media destination for aspiring sports journalists
Substack
Platform enabling independent sports writers to build audiences outside traditional media structures
Apple News
Distribution platform changing how audiences consume sports news and media strategy implications
Vox
Digital media outlet mentioned as source for emerging sports journalism talent
Vice
Digital media company identified as alternative career path for sports journalists
People
Michael Wilbon
Sports journalist and commentator discussing NFL coaching changes, Hall of Fame voting, and media industry trends
Sally Jenkins
Washington Post sports columnist discussing sports section restructuring and future of sports journalism
Bill Belichick
Former NFL coach whose Hall of Fame snub sparked discussion about voting system flaws and merit-based selection
Carlos Alcaraz
Tennis player identified as dominant force in men's professional tennis, approximately 5% better than competitors
Novak Djokovic
Tennis player discussed as aging competitor struggling against younger elite players like Alcaraz
Jannik Sinner
Tennis player mentioned as occasional threat to Alcaraz despite not being consistently dominant
Taylor Fritz
American tennis player discussed as capable but unable to win final sets against elite competitors
Cody Parkey
Former NFL kicker who played golf with Kornheiser; known for missed field goal in 2018 Bears-Eagles playoff game
Robbie Gould
Former NFL kicker discussed regarding isolation of kicker position and emotional impact of missed kicks
Michael Jordan
Owns Grove 23 golf course where Kornheiser played during Florida trip
Dustin Johnson
Professional golfer spotted at Grove 23 golf course during Kornheiser's round
Tom Boswell
Washington Post baseball writer identified as one of best sports voices still writing authoritative pieces
Ben Simmons
Sports media entrepreneur building independent sports journalism project outside traditional outlets
Kara Swisher
Media analyst discussing digital media consumption patterns and information distribution changes
Barry Weiss
Media entrepreneur who built digital media organization and sold for billion dollars in three years
William Lewis
Washington Post leadership under whom sports section contracted rather than grew in revenue
Daniel
First officer on Kornheiser's flight from Palm Beach to Washington; Air Force Academy football player 2008-2012
Brady
Young pilot on Kornheiser's flight from Palm Beach; resembles young Leonardo DiCaprio
Alan Bubius
Socialite and Kornheiser's host in Florida; provided accommodations and use of car during golf trip
Iga Swiatek
Women's tennis player discussed as fragile despite being expected to win consistently
Quotes
"The only Hall of Fame that matters to me is the baseball Hall of Fame. And the only first ballot that matters to me is baseball."
Tony KornheiserHall of Fame discussion
"I don't want Roger Craig to never get in. So if I vote for him now, and I'll vote for Belichick next year, and then you're not a first ballot on the favor."
Michael WilbonHall of Fame voting mechanics
"Alcaraz is about 5% better than everybody else right now. He's got all four shots. Where do you attack him?"
Sally JenkinsTennis discussion
"I borrowed this hat and shirt from my dad."
Brady (pilot)Airport security encounter
"The fact that 11 people thought that was in any way a sensible thing to do, that it would do anything other than embarrass the Hall and embarrass themselves."
Sally JenkinsBelichick Hall of Fame snub
Full Transcript
Hey, it's Tony on today's show. I'll tell some stories from my trip to Florida. Plus we'll chat with Michael Wilbond about football all the fame and the Olympics and Sally Jenkins calls in to talk about what's going on with the Washington Post Sports section. But first commerce. Previously on the Tony Cornizer show. I mean, you know, maybe early next week, to be honest, like, you know, February groundhogs day, you know, I mean, I don't see anything this week. I mean, you know, maybe we get close to 3032 later in the week, but there's no pronounced warm up that I can see in the long range at this point. Again, I've been so focused on this storm. I haven't looked much past, you know, 10 days. So, you know, maybe it'll be a warm up after that. It may be unusual for it not to eventually fall. Well, eventually that's, it's called May. Eventually. The Tony Cornizer show is on now. That was Jason Salmanel from over a week ago. That's right. Over a week ago, we're back, by the way, I'm back. I'm back in Washington back for more cash, always back for more cash. Michael is here, Nigel is here. So this storm happened. I went Florida. I went Florida to play golf and I played golf and I was staying at the house of the socialite, Alan Bubius, my dear friend, who could not have been a better host, a better friend. I mean, fabulous. Pick us up at the airport. This is a story we're not getting to today, but we didn't get in last week until 1230 in the morning. That's another, that's not today's. We have a lot of travel stories, a lot of travel stories, but, but to concentrate on this, you heard the clip from Jason Salmanel that would warm up eventually. I was in the car yesterday and I called Kip Sheeman. And he said, I don't know. I don't know all month. I don't know all month. And he said, I know I like weather. I like big, whether I like big storms, but I only like this. Who does? Nobody can move. Nobody can move. I was away from it. I will tell you one way traffic on our streets. Yeah, everything, everything that is shrunk by one lane, playing a game of chicken. Yeah, it's really is really a weird thing. I don't have the dog. The dog is with our trainer because I can't walk the dog safely without falling down in this. I'm not telling anybody in Washington or other places of Northeast, something that they don't already know. But there is a word to describe this. It's obviously a brand new word, snowcrete. Oh, I've never heard that it's been invented in the last week or so. It's very appropriate. It's snow topped with ice. Yeah. It's, you can't walk through it. Can't stand on it. It's just awful. Chip away at it. Yeah, it's just really awful. I broke a sandwich trying to crack through. Is that right? No, Benta. I don't think I could play in it. But at one point, I was using a saw to solve pieces of ice to play. So I don't look. So the snow totals were down versus what we feared. Yes. But the actual, like the volume of how much moisture was on the ground compared to what it would be like if it was a really big snow, that's like why it's not going anywhere. Yeah. And I believe it can't go anywhere if it stays in the 20s. We've got a powerful all the time early February sun now. You know, I don't, I'm. Angle, right? What if it doesn't look the pile up snow? Oh, that's how it's got pile up. That's not getting out of here. It's a lot of. Yeah. You know, April at the earliest. I'm there's no chance. The North Bethesda Drift. I saw this this weekend. You know, the voice of the book store. April or May. It's like a matter of one. Yes. Yeah. And you can't. You can't walk on it. No. We're, we got it bad. Didn't get it any worse than other places in the Northeast or the Carolina is yesterday. Myrtle Beach. They get 12 inches of snow. Yeah, something like that. And I read a story that that every single county in North Carolina had snowfall. A low country at a dusting. Yeah. It's just, it's just a lot of snow and it's everywhere. So I want to thank Finn because pineapple came over late last night to clear out a path in the backyard for me to clear something out so that when I get Chessie home, she's going to I can take Chessie into the backyard and see if she'll do the things that she has to do rather than do them in the house. And but it's, it's so I'm grateful to the people at pineapple. I'm grateful to Finn for coming over. I mean, those guys work constantly. Oh, yeah, you know, Finn is at the point. He hates snow. I'm sure Kevin now hates snow and Kevin is against it. If we've lost Kevin, then the war's over. That was really something. Can I just say that Jason Salmonow pretty much nailed it with what he told us. Yeah. And the way it all played out the way when the snow ended and when it turned out of the sleet and rain, when that eventually ended, I mean, it was still a bear to deal with, but he gave you the exact blueprint. It's the difference between a pro and a fearcaster. So I will also tell you it was, nobody cares about this. It was a lot colder and Florida than people. You brought the cold who had planned a vacation there for a year. iguanas falling on a tree. Someone was yesterday. It was under freezing in South Florida with a 30 mile. We were promised to go on as at the park. There's two cold to them. I'm going to, so I'm going to talk about the golf trip. And not today, I'm going to talk. We played, I played golf for seven straight. I'm golfed out. I'm done. I'm glad I can't play here. You know, because I just can't play. I'm just tired of it, but it was, it was wonderful. By the way, this is just a general question for people and specifically for Michael and Nigel. I have the thing on my car that says my tire pressure, I have to check my tire pressure. I'm sort of assuming that has something to do with the cold air. And that will, that will ride itself if I drive for a while, but it comes on every time. You'll get a little bit of pressure back. Give it's really low. You'll have to put air in. But if you were to drive for 30, 45 minutes, you'd probably get some air back. Okay. So that's, that's sort of what I figured. Got a nice note from Sam Ginsburg, who used to email us and write us all the time from Pittsburgh. A note about his, his recent life. He, you know, he sends one of those things about what happened over the year. I got one from Tamarrow. They're always lovely. Yeah, the very, my friend Marcus Roddy does one that literally makes me laugh out loud. I, it's a great skill when you talk about your year, when the tragedies in your year and the triumphs in your, your year come out. And, and he said, his son, Sam, son, Daniel is of an enthusiastic listener. So we want to shout out to him. His birthday was, you know, about a week and a half ago or something like that. Well, we've got to week ago. So yeah. So that's very, very nice to Daniel. He also has a quote you talked about the thing that we're doing. What I hope we've stopped with astronauts. This is a John Glenn quote. It's a great quote. As I heard through space, one thought kept crossing my mind. Every part of this rocket was supplied by the lowest bidder. That's funny. That's a funny line. All right. So I had to do some things yesterday to, I had, you know what happens when you go to CVS and you get like extra bucks. Oh, yeah. Like in the receipt. Yeah. The receipts at CVS, you have to commit to the CVS ecosystem. And once you're in, you'll get a lot of coupons. The receipt is, I don't know, three feet long. You build a tent out of it. It's unbelievable how long it is. But I found one that had $10 of 10. That's a big one. Ooh, $10. Well done. That's perfect. It expired today. So yesterday I went out, I went to a CVS and Carol said, why don't you buy Valentine's Day candy? Now Valentine's Day candy is the most overpriced stuff in the world. Yeah, I did. I bought a Russell Stover Valentine's Day candy like 10 pieces for $21. Shrinkflation. Ridiculous. Ridiculous. But I got 10 bucks off. So I felt that I felt it was okay. No, you I'd like to go for the good crest. What no, I didn't do that. I have enough crest at the moment. I thought, well Carol wanted the candy, so I got the candy. So I got it. That was good. So let me tell you, I'll tell you a story. As I said, I was down in Florida for a week and I played golf and I did not drive. I had no, I did not rent a car. Alan offered me the use of his car, but I didn't, you know, I never drove it before. Michael drove it a few times, which was good. He drove me in it and was good. Michael was there for four or five days and we will get to all of these things, although maybe not today. So I didn't see, I didn't see my cousin, Marilyn. I didn't see my friend, Jody. You know, I didn't see anybody. I didn't leave the little compound area where I was. And when Alan went home for a day, back to DC for a day, I was lost. I was completely alone, completely lost. And you know what I did for dinner? What? I went to the publics and bought a sandwich and a bowl of soup. A pups up. Yes. There you go. A sip. Do you know what chicken tendies? I thought it was, I didn't get the chicken, but I got a ham, turkey, roast beef, cheese, lettuce, tomato. Talk about a cold cup. That's a sandwich. That is a big challenge. I was happy. I walked home to get over the sun, four blocks. I didn't get any chips. What kind of soup? Chicken noodle soup. Oh, it stayed hot until I got home because I don't know how to use Alan's stove. No. You know what I don't know about? Alan's refrigerator besides water? Nothing. It's the correct answer. Not a thing. There's no food. You know, so I had that. I went to Publix, which is for people that don't know the big supermarket. Go to self checkout. Did not go to self checkout. No, I paid cash. So happy. Did you use my phone number? Get a deal. No, what do you mean? I put my phone number in. I had no idea. Yeah, it's in public savings. Come on. Oh, I didn't know. So the sandwich was about, I don't know, $12, $13 or something like that. Soups about five bucks. It was fine. Yeah. It was fine. I was happy. So I'll tell one story. Tell one story here. People know I'm not a good, good at flying. I'm really good at flying. Really? Yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm, let's be a recent development. Yeah. I'm terrified. But I, I did it. I did it twice. The first time was there and back. Yes, there and back. I didn't, I actually thought of taking the train back, but I didn't. I got on the plane. I have so many people to thank. So many people that work for the airline, so many pilots. Steve Gagneur to pilot. I text him so often. I know it drives him crazy, but he always is in good spirits and says, this is the right day to go. This will be better than that. Here's what this is going to feel like. Here's when the bumps are going to tell you everything. He's a pilot. He understands it. So I get to Palm Beach. By the way, by the way, every restaurant in Palm Beach, you paying a service tax because you're in Palm Beach. Wow. Yeah. They're jacking up what, what everything costs. Because you're in Palm Beach, just so people know, because if you're in Fort Lauderdale, it's not not as much. Anyway, go to the airport and there's, I'm going through the lines doing what I'm supposed to do, you know, showing them what's in the bag or this, that any other thing. And I'm in the line. And a couple of guys who are dressed like pilots are right behind me. And they're picking up carry bags, you know, their own suitcases and they're going through the line. They don't really have to go through the line. They're pilots. They just put stuff out and everybody sort of lets them through. There's two guys. One of them has sent me a note, by the way, but I'll get to that in a second. And one of them is blonde. He's got blonde hair. He looks 15 years old. I think I don't know. Training program. Yeah. What I thought was that the permit, what I, what I thought was, is that he was like in the junior aviation club at his high school, you know, and was going to be on the plane. And I looked at him and in that moment of recognition where you go, well, maybe he's flying my plane. I said, I'm, I'm going to a dollas. Are you face is yeah, flying the plane. Now, I'm looking. Now he's had this look. People have looked at him this way for a long time, you know, I'm, yeah. And, and the look from me is, gosh, really young. And he says to me, yeah, I borrowed this hat and shirt from my dad, which is a great line. I'm just imagining Leo, Leo had an order to cap you over. Exactly. He had it. That's exactly who he looks like. Leo in order to cap you. So young, Leo in order to cap you. So it's a great line. He's got a great line. He introduced himself. He recognizes me and his name is Brady and his co pilots name is Daniel. And Daniel has written me. I flew you from PBI to IAD today as the first officer, met you at security at PBI. You were awesome. Came into the flight deck to say hi again before take off and after landing. And he said, I played football at the Air Force Academy from 2008, 2012 before coming to the airlines, maybe a long shot. I would love it if you gave the Air Force Academy football team a shout out on PTO. So here's what's interesting about that. So it's 2026. So that's 14 years ago. So he's in his mid 30s. Yeah. And he's probably a young pilot and he's not. He's the first officer. He's not the pilot. The pilot is the guy I'm talking about. It was great pilot. He's great. I walked in after we landed. I said, I would go anywhere with you guys anywhere. It was just wonderful. You know, because he knew when it was going to be bumpy. Did he PR it went? Did he PR it? What is that? Getting back to the person wrecked. It was 20 minutes early. Because the wind was coming south on north and it was really good. That's really so I was really. I was really thrilled about it. And you know, and he's been flying for 10, 15 years. There's no question about that because I asked a couple of my friends who were pilots. And I said, look, these guys kid up. These guys are really good. He's flying a Boeing 737. It's not it's not any plane. It's a good. No, he's really good. And he was really good. So this is what happened. This is the one story I'll tell. I am on the plane and I'm, you know, I'm not good. I'm not good on the plane. I'm actually a little bit better on the plane sometimes than I am prior to the plane. A little because I'm committed now. I'm going to go. That's the anticipation. And I, you know, I think it's going to be okay. But I'm, you cannot control your foe. It you cannot control your fears. The best you can do is mask them in some way, you know, with Zanax as a matter of fact. So we're on the plane and it's bumping as they climb up to altitude. And that happens all the time. And that's not anything because as long as you feel the thrust of the plane, you know, you know, okay, we're going forward. We're doing good. No problem. And I'm in my seat and I close my eyes because I'm, you know, I'm trying to sort of get out of where I am in my head, close my eyes, get as calm as I can be, get as calm as I can be. And all of a sudden I look down on my lap and it's filled with water. One of the flight attendants has stumbled and water lands all over my pants, all over me, all over me. So I, I know the rest of the flight is fine. I'm not thinking about anything but drying my pants and they're giving me towels. I get through adults to bag it. Well, this is okay. So what is the great fear? The great fear is someone sees me the front of my pants is soaking wet. He was so scared on the plane. He was so scared. He peed on himself. Yes. The bigger pants is cool. Yes. That is all I am consumed with for the rest of the trip. Now I'm trying to be funny. And I, you know, she says I'm, she's mortified. She's so sorry. And I appreciate that very, very much. But I can't help myself. I say things like, till this is $8,000, she can see this is especially one of a kind of, she looks at me, her eyes get widened. They're $40. Calvin Klein or about it. And I try to say don't worry about it. I'm not sure if that's why it's it. But then I say, but it's a good story, isn't it? And she doesn't want to start, you know, and but it was so they had a fan, a small little fan. I don't know. Out of somebody's purse and I'm trying to dry this. And I just, it's just wet the whole time. But the time I got home, still wrap us water. Yeah. Well, I had a, I had a round front. I had a jacket, obviously. And I, I don't know. I mean, to my knowledge, nobody took a picture. I haven't seen it trending yet. So, but it was, you know, it was, it got me to the point. And, and, and because the flight was early, and this happened about 15, 20 minutes in, and I was busy with it for 30 or 40 minutes. And then it was, then you felt, yeah, then you're in the glide pattern. Yes. You know, and so now we know the trick. We've got to distract you. Maybe like stomp on your foot or something, you know, get you distracted with something about 15 minutes. It was, you know, it, and that was that, that is my immediate fear. Oh boy, I'm going to walk off this plane. Somebody's going to recognize me. Look at my pants and, and go. We did. No. So now that, now it would have been a lot worse that was coffee. Oh, yeah, yeah. It would have been a lot worse. But I didn't even, I didn't see it happen. I just felt it. It was, you know, so that's my story. I'm sticking to that story. That's a pretty good story. And the, and the, the plane was terrific. I mean, it, my co-believes I should just start getting on planes. Other we just have to plan it. Right. Just like a Boston. Just go for lunch. Yeah. And then come back. Got a fan you a whole, it's something. You had a Bob. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, pat the statue of red. Pat the statue of red. Come on back. Yeah. So I don't know. Well, yeah, you have to do it all the time. Well, never again. This is exactly how I feel. This is exactly how I feel. And I want to, you know, I'd like to go to California. I would like to go to California and play golf in California. So I'll just, just briefly, because Michael was there. I'll, I'll just name the courses, because we had a great time. We played Emerald Dunes. We played a public course called the Park. Great course. Yeah. Really low hits. Wonderful. Really wonderful. We played Seminole with Chek Maxson, which I'm going to talk about later a little bit with Wilbon, because of who I played with. Impossibly hard. Yeah. Just but really cool to see what the stewards of the club have done there to protect it for future generations. Just great. The front nine has literally been lifted. Yeah. Yeah. And then the next one is the one that I played. Grove 23, which is of course owned by Michael Jordan. Yeah. That's the one. Like it's not, he didn't invest in it. He owns it. He owns the course. So, you know, I'll have stories about all of these things. So they were all lovely. I go to the range of Grove. I had to say this before the rest of our group is there. I looked to my left and I see, oh, more easier. More is playing with us. But I'd see them on the range. And I'm so happy to see more that I don't even notice that to my right at the far end. It's only about a 20 person stall. There is Dustin Johnson. Yeah. Yeah. I'll tell stories about that as we go on. But I do want to say one of the people that we played with there was Greg Finneger, who is the outgoing superintendent of the course. And he says, thank you to me and Michael for allowing me to join you for some of Grove 23. We couldn't finish the round. We got rained out about 15 or 16, so I'm in there. I thoroughly enjoyed pallying with everyone. I was happy to see the four of you can really play. We can really play. I was happy to see despite my nerves. I managed not to whiff on the first tee. And then I made a good pot and he said that was a highlight. But also, may I be officially the retired golf course superintendent of the Tony Cornheiser show? Because he's a little. Because he listens. I mean, you wonder how and why and where. And yeah. And Greg, listen. It was just cool to see the course through his eyes as to what he's paying attention as you go around. Yeah. I love that as the week goes on, we will talk about all of these things, but we'll get out of here now. And we'll bond. That's right. We'll join us when we return. I'm Tony Cornheiser. 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But it could also be Groundhog Day. Groundhog Day. Yeah. And if it's Groundhog Day, they should have sung I got you, baby. Because Groundhog Day is one of the great movies ever. One of the great comedies of all time. Yes. It's just so great. Yeah. Don't you think? 100%. Everything about it's brilliant. That's what I think. I mean, every morning. And it weaves in in such intelligent ways that sucks you into it. Ned Ryerson. So, Ned Ryerson. I got two babies. Same thing. Okay. Michael Wilbond is with us. Let's just start with this. I had the great fortune to play last week. To play seminal. Me, my son, my friend, Dr. Chet Maxson, and a fourth person whose name I believe you know. His name is Cody Parkie. Do you want to tell people who that is? We'll tell people who that is. They're two words associated for a Chicago one with Cody Parkie. Double and doing. That's right. Double doing. That's it. So. 2018. Soldier Field playoffs against the Eagles. Bears Eagles. I was there. And I'm sure he's a wonderful young man. He is. I don't doubt that I heard that before for someone who had nothing to play golf with them, but who been around them. And I heard that. Stanley in Chicago. If you say double and doing. Somebody may punch in the fence. So, so this is like. Cody Parkie. Is he there with Bartman? No. No. Bartman is in his own category, right? Yeah, that was a special place. Okay. Okay. So, but you hated Cody Parkie. No, no, no. No, you did. I didn't say you hate him now. You hated him. No, I never hated him. I hated the result of the game. I hated the result of the game. What he did was like a million other sports things. Especially in Chicago where we didn't win stuff. It was no. No, I never met him. Oh, he's nice. I have pictures of me and him. I'm sure. I would send them to you, but I don't know how to do that. Michael will know how to do that. I could send you pictures. He was so nice and a good player. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That is 60 footer for Bernie in the last. He did. He had a, yeah. That's pretty good. Yeah. I mean, a really nice guy played for I think six different teams. That's the right. Yeah. And I didn't ask him. I couldn't bring myself to ask him about it. What? You know, the double drawing. I couldn't, I didn't mention it. There's nothing to ask. There's nothing to ask. It happened. It's a tough place to, it is. It is not the toughest place to kick a field goal in the NFL. It's one of the three to five toughest places along with the metal lands. And, you know, old candles to keep that doesn't exist anymore. So, it's another ask, but there would be no point to it. I wouldn't have wanted to ask. I wouldn't have wanted to discuss it at all. Would you have been nice to him? Of course. Okay. Because I'm sure he'd love to play with you. No, not necessarily. Look, if you're a Curry Parker, you have to be aware, even if you know it's the business you've chosen, you have to know that people have said things and people feel a certain way about that day. It's a pretty famous thing. It is? In Chicago. It is, huh? Yeah. Yeah. So, he might not have wanted to. Now, after a while, you get to know people and you know that that was the whole metropolis felt that way. It doesn't even mean they wouldn't feel uncomfortable having a drink or having a dinner. They wouldn't. It's not Batman. It's not trust me. It's not close. Well, he was a nice guy. He was a good player. He hit it a long way. And we enjoyed it. And he was happy to take pictures. And he knows I'm sending them to you. I'll tell you a quick story about that. Yeah. So, I'm at Soldier Field that day. And, um, O'Kenneth, now I'm just blanking. As I'm telling you the story, I'm blanking. Oh, yeah. So, I walk it. I just sit in my seat for 30 minutes, double-dolling before the beat. Philadelphia, we're going to go to the NSC title game. And I text. Part of the reason why people went crazy is because the Bears cut Robbie Gold. Yeah, who you loved. The most popular. And he went to San Francisco, right? Yeah. But the 49ers didn't make the playoffs that year or whatever. So, where I'm sitting there and walking out, I'm just going to walk to my apartment, which is two miles. I'm so angry and despondent on a walk. So, I decided to text Robbie Gold. Who I know. Speaking of good golfers. I decided to text Robbie Gold just to say, because every single person on the way out of Soldier Field just said, Robbie Gold, he's making that. Yeah. We're still playing. Robbie Gold, Robbie Gold. And he's beloved, Robbie Gold. Robbie Gold, Robbie Gold. I text Robbie Gold that I say, you won't believe what's going on here in Chicago, where I'm walking out of Soldier Field and there's 62,000 people all mentioning your name. And I get a text right back and says, yeah, I would believe you because I'm here. I'm walking out too. Oh, wow. And Robbie, who, you know, I don't know if he still considers it a little bit of a show. But he's considered it a little bit of a Chicago and he certainly did then. He was just at the game with his kid. How about that? I wonder if he would have, he would have something to kind to say to Cody Park, yeah. You know, he would. Robbie Gold, but the nicest guy in the history of war. Yeah. Yeah. That me kickers stay together. Yeah. I mean, I was asking him, you know, I didn't ask him about that, but I asked him what it's like. And I said, do you ever really feel a part of a team? And he said, there are moments where you feel a part of the team. Yeah, when you're out there and you're helping or something like that. But most of the time, we're by ourselves. You do, yeah. Yeah, we just by ourselves, we practice by ourselves. We practice by ourselves. By themselves. Yeah, it's, it's an odd thing. Except in a separate place, I learned later from other bears guys that I know. Yeah. Yeah. So it's, anyway, it's weird. All right, we're on football. Is there any coaching move you were intrigued by? Or, you know, or you just go, how did this happen? Almost none of them. Yeah. That's a great question. No, not now. No, not really. They, they, you get a certain recycle situation. So, so there were 10 vacancies, right? 10. And eight have been hired a nine now. I think nine and I think they're expecting Gary Kubiak's kid to be the raider. Yeah. And everybody's related to somebody. The matlifflours younger brother. I never heard of him. I didn't know who he was. I didn't know who he was. Yeah, I just know. No, I'm not. Okay. And at some point, I will. But at this point, I'm just like, can we, can we get through this? Can we get through this and the trade deadline? I just want to just fast forward right through both of them. Yeah, I so I missed last week and I know that there was a lot to talk about. And I'm sure you talked about, you had to talk about Bella Chick not making the hall of fame. Several days. Yeah, I mean, but isn't, isn't part of that a function of the weirdness of the ballot? Yes. Right? And people don't understand including NFL players. Yeah. Former NFL players. You, so just, I'll just give you a short. So first of all, you have a situation where you can have seven names advanced to you. That you can vote off of the hall of fame. You can put it in as many as six. So you can't even vote for the people advanced to you in some cases and making it worse. Let's say that you won a vote for LC Greenwood or Roger Craig. How could Roger Craig not be in the hall of fame? Exactly. So let's, now I'm not saying this is the case with them, but it could have been. You're sitting down there. You got three names. It would have been more. Actually, it would have been three. You got Bella Chick. You got Roger Craig. You got LC Greenwood. The situation could be Tony. I'm being serious now. That one of those guys, if you didn't pass that name along and vote for that person, they could be eliminated from consideration forever. Yeah. Yeah. And so what you say to yourself is, and I know, because I fact in that room for ten years, what you say to yourself is, okay, Bella Chick is going to get in because he's Bella Chick. But I don't want Roger Craig to never get in. So if I vote for him now, and I'll vote for Bella Chick next year, and then you're not a first ballot on the favor, just like that. So I don't know exactly how the ballot appears now, but I'm giving you a fundamental dilemma. And it's not really a dilemma, because you know Bella Chick's name is going to be there next year. But in the meantime, people go crazy. Yeah, I mean, I read all the stuff about it. I read the guy from Kansas City explaining just that, saying, look, I don't want to be responsible for Roger Craig and LC Greenwood not getting in. And I know Bella Chick is, who else you go? And it reinforces to me, and this is my personal prejudice, not anybody else's. It's mine. That the only Hall of Fame that matters to me is the baseball, the Hall of Fame. And the only first ballot that matters to me is baseball. I mean, because these other things don't make any sense to me. The basketball Hall of Fame is like 80 people get in every single year. And the football hall of fame is a million different positions. You know, it's just, it's hard. It's not long to say there was no kicker. There was no punter. But I was in the room in the arts when the Ray guy got in. Ray guy got in. Yeah. So, you know, it is one of the reasons I got out. And what's happy to get out of that is what we're talking about now. And by the way, and I just begun to look on television, when did the Olympics start? Is that soon? Is that this week? Next week? Next week. Is there something? Yeah, I'm not certain. I'm not either. Is there something you're looking forward to in the Winter Olympics? No, not a thing. We got to do a show. We got to do a show. I mean, we, but you know what? I don't know how much of that we're going to do, because, because so much of it going on during the day. The hockey and the figure skating, which I don't care about until whatever want to talk about, will be at night in prime time. It's a television show for NBC. Sure. That's where it is. Well, you used to be for ABC. That used to be, yeah. Exactly. Yeah. And so, you will not watch it. Yeah. Because every, I always start out by saying I'm not going to watch the Winter, because I don't care about the skating. I, I, I love the skating. Yeah, I love the skating. And I'm not going to watch it. And so, I'm not going to be able to really chat about it, because I'm not going to watch. You know, there are very few things in life that in sports, almost nothing, that I say, no, I'm not going to watch that. I am not going to watch the skating. Not for one minute. I object to it. I object to the nature of it. Not the people who do it. No, you're just a judging. It's the judging. The great performers, under stress, ever in any walk of athleticism. But, you know, we don't have ballroom dancing in either. And I, people could say you're being preposterous. Okay, you could say that. But it, to me, if something can only be judged, I have a problem with it being in the Olympic competition. I feel the same way often about gymnastics. Same, same way. I feel the same way. I'm not, you know, diving. I don't have that. I'm not, dear friends, we're going to the United States, Olympian and Metal winner with Dominic Dawes, eight dear friends. And I, you know, I have this feeling which has nothing to do with any single competitor. And it's a marvel. You know, I feel that way. It's a marvel. But I'm not. I'm not going to watch the skating. I'm not. I'm hand that a note that it starts Friday. I wouldn't be for the Super Bowl. I wouldn't know. So, I mean, there'll be things we talked about, Lindsey Vaughan, Falling Friday. Well, I watched it downhill, probably. Well, I watched some of the hockey, probably. I thought, at their times, I thought it's the greatest hockey tournament in the world. I have been right there in attendance for the return of professional hockey players to the Olympic Games. And it was a marvel. Well, I watch it. Maybe, maybe. But I don't know, Tony, I don't know how much of it really conveys. Like winner Olympus, you've done them. You got to be there. You need to be front and center. And we're not going to be that. So, I don't know. All right. I will see you later. And the next time we talk, we're going to have to talk about Michael Jordan and his comments about you when I see him last week. Which I will tell you later. Yeah. Michael Wilbur Boys and Girls, see you later. Thanks, Tom. We'll take a break. Sally Jenkins will join us. I'm Tony Cornheuser. This is the Tony Cornheuser Show. This episode of Tony Cornheuser Show is brought to you by Wildgrain. Wildgrain is the first baked from frozen subscription box for sourdough breads, artisanal pastries and fresh pastas. Unlike a lot of store-bought options, Wildgrain uses simple ingredients. You can actually pronounce them a slow fermentation process that can be easy on your belly. And richer in nutrients and antioxidants. You can choose the variety box, gluten-free, vegan, or even a new protein box. It's made weeknight meals simpler weekend mornings, cozy or honestly. It will add just a little bit of calm to your routine during the winter months. 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It's written by Doug Stanglin and Janet Divers. And Michael Granberry writes, Doug Stanglin and I grew up in the same community of Dallas, a place known as Pleasant Grove. Doug's father owned the Twilight Times skating rink where as a child I once broke my arm but I won't hold that against Doug. In addition to being a consummate journalist to work for years as a foreign car respondent, such places as Poland and Russia, before finishing his career at USA Today as quietly becoming gifted songwriter. A passion he has pursued for years and he talks about sending this song and Janet Divers is a singer-songwriter with a music degree from George Mason University and background in musical theatre and opera, which carried her to the stage of the Bullshoy Theatre in Moscow in 1993, which she performed in the opera I Am The Way written and produced by Jerome Hines. The singer on Someone To Hold is Mary Ann Redman, a popular Washington area singer, the pianist is Pat Coil. Doug who lives in Arlington, Virginia. And who as an avid golfer plays on courses up and down I-95, gives his permission for the song. Michael Granberry never misses. Never. Never misses. And the song plays in Sally Jenkins. Oh, I think we have awakened in California and we apologize for that. Can I just, I wanted to talk generally. I'm going to talk to you about the tennis a little bit, but that's down the road. Generally, you worked at the Washington Post, I worked at the Washington Post. There's all sorts of things on the internet and I'm getting questions from people. There's some notion that the Washington Post Sports section is going to go away. It's going to be folded up and sent away. What, you know, it's the landscape of sports media changes at a breakneck pace. I mean, we just don't really understand what's going on. But what do you hear about this? What do you know about this? What I know is most of my friends are bracing to be laid off in the middle of the Super Bowl and the Olympics. Yeah. They're getting no assurances from management. They're getting no information. They're operating in. They've been told heavy cuts are coming to sports and local and foreign. But they're mostly being told that by other media outlets. Yeah. Yeah. They are sitting around preparing to take it in the neck, even highly placed editors in the section. Do you think that's what's going to happen? I mean, you know, I have no idea. It's possible that they could react to. There's a lot of backlash. You know, they're taking it pretty. They're getting a lot of criticism on social media and stuff and it could be that they've trodded out these rumors to sort of field them out. I really don't know what they're what's going through their heads, but I do know that the place hasn't grown under William Lewis. In fact, it's contracted under him for whatever reason in terms of revenue and you know, at a certain point, I guess he decided that this was. I mean, I can only presume that he's decided that that since he can't grow, he needs to cut. So you and I aspired to the same thing. I'm older than you are, of course, but we aspire to the same thing. We wanted to be sports writers. And we were. And we were for long period of time and very successfully. If you were 25 years old now, what would you aspire to? How does it work if you're young and you think you're talented and this feels like a calling, where do you work? Well, I mean, there's still plenty of great places to work. The New York Times has no problem making a profit off of sports coverage. They're actually grown by leaps and bounds. I think I saw something recently that they had very healthy revenues last quarter. They became profitable in the space of a couple of years. The Atlantic is beefing up its sports coverage, witnessed my presence at the Atlantic magazine. You've got all kinds of, I mean, you've got everything from bleacher report to, you know, you've got what Ben Simmons, the project Ben Simmons has been doing. You've got, I mean, there's all kinds of interesting places to look if you're interested in being a sports correspondent. I do think in New Media Tony, you're going to have to be able to do more than just right. You know, you're going to have to, you're going to have to understand podcasting. You're going to have to understand social media platforms and how to make your own short video that's going to engage in appeal to, you know, younger audiences who are getting most of their news from screens. I think that's part of a new reality. But I think the interesting thing is that people are still reading more than ever. They're just not reading on the same sites, the conventional legacy media sites necessarily, unless you're talking about the Atlantic. But there's still plenty of reading going on out there. I guess one of the things that's difficult for me is there doesn't seem to be a format for credentialing anymore. There doesn't seem to be a hierarchy set out there saying this person came from A, B, C, and D, and that's why this person has credibility. You know, now it's more democratic. Anybody can do it, but it's hard. Sometimes I see people and I go, who's this guy? You know, what's this guy? You mean like you're talking about, you know, there's no like, oh, he came from the Toledo Blade. Oh, he came from the Portland Oregon. Right, right. Yeah, I mean, they're going to come from different places. Sure, I mean, they're going to come from Vox. They're going to come from Vice. They're going to come from Defector. Defector's get terrific writers always has. You know, look, that's a sports website. We'll reach a built from scratch in his basement, you know. Look, the free press, Barry Weiss is demonized. But look, you know, there's someone who built a media organization, a digital media organization, from the ground up in just the space that's three or four years, and just sold it for a billion dollars. So, you know, the idea, I mean, Cara Swisher talks about this all the time. The idea that there's no reading going on out there, that somehow the information world is evaporating, is simply not true. You just have to figure out how people are consuming it. You know, you have to figure out, okay, if you've got all these people getting their daily news hit from Apple News summaries and they're picking what they want to read, you know, so how do we engage with Apple News, right? And so that's, I think, a lot of what's going on, not just at the Washington Post, but everywhere. The difference with the Washington Post is I don't think if they indeed annihilate and eliminate their sports section, they're trying to pitch that as a spin it, as a strategy. I don't think you can look at that as anything other than an utter epic failure. Well, I would certainly look at it that way, because this is how I made my living, and this is what I wanted to do. I wanted, I had a sense of what the Washington Post was, where it was circulated, who read it, and that gave me a sense of what to write in it, you know, and I would be very happy to have been considered a local columnist in the Washington DC area. We get, I see these stories, we get mentioned a lot, you and me and Will Bonn and Boz and Kendra, it feels like we're relics, you know, it feels like. Yeah, art of facts. Yeah, just, yeah, it's a dust us off, you know, and take a little brush and dust us off. It's a very odd thing, it's a very odd thing for me. All right. I don't think so, Tony, you guys' audience is bigger than ever, right? You just renewed your contracts for God's sake. Oh, yeah, but that's, I mean, but that's just fortune. I mean, that's a good fortune. No, it's a function of quality, it's a function of taste and discernment in the audience, and quality of your product. Tom Boswell's still one of the best reds, and when he chooses to write on a baseball subject, he's still the most authoritative one of the best red voices out there. You know, we have all kinds of stories generated out of sports, and specifically at the Washington Post, that have commanded seismic-sized audiences, on really fascinating subjects. One great example yesterday was Jesse Dardi, did a really good piece on the use of Excel sheets in college sports, really fascinating, great graphics, innovative, topic presented with novel graphics, and it should be everything that the Washington Post-Sport section can model and can do, and they buried it. That's, and I don't have answers when people ask me about it. I don't know what to say. I just don't, all right, let me move on, but I appreciate you talking, because you were closer to what you were just there. Did you watch any of the tennis, did you, what did you think of Alcaraz? What do we think of Alcaraz and Jokovic and Sinner? Is that it? Is that all there is in men's tennis now? Pretty much. I mean, do you see Taylor Fritz or Alexander Zverov winning 4th and 5th sets? I mean, that's the problem. They can take a set or two off them, but they can't seem to get that 4th set or that 5th set. They're just a click behind, and Taylor Fritz keeps working at it. It's interesting. But he's still got, you know, he's still got a little ways to go. He's a big kid, you know, there's a lot for Taylor Fritz to organize, and maybe he'll get there. But, you know, here's the thing. Even Jokovic now, like you see this in Champions, where they can still make semi-finals and finals, but they too are one click missing something, whether it's a speed or a couple of shots here, and they just can't seem to get over the last margin of victory, which in tennis is really, really, really close, right? A match can turn on one or two points. And with Jokovic, you just feel that he's just the tiniest bit overmatched in terms of stamina and velocity by Alcarez, who really is the best player on the planet today. I don't care if Sinner beats him here or there when he's tired. I think Alcarez is about 5% better than everybody else right now. He's got all four, he's got a total of seven, and he's a baby. And there's three guys out there, and one of them is 40 years old, so there's two guys. And he's got four, he's got four championships, but more importantly, he's got every shot. Yeah. Every shot. Where do you attack him? It's really good. I'm sad that there's nobody else, you know, that there's just a couple or three. Like the women, there's a new winner every week. You know, you know, if you, I would, I was getting us killer her this today if we talked about tennis. In the last, say, 12 majors, how many different women have won them? I bet it's at least five, right? And that's not true to the men. The men it's two. It's just two. Yeah, so it's not. And the odd thing is that there's a player out there that you think should be winning all of them, and it's one tech, but she's sort of a little fragile. You know, it's interesting. I don't know why she's not scooping up more of them on a consistent basis. You got anything to say about Bella chick not making the Hall of Famers that overblown at this point? Oh my God, what a travesty. You know, what a bunch of Percy mouthed, means bearded. You know, it's the mean girl's table at lunch. Yeah. Yeah. It really is. It really is. That's nonsense. The fact that the fact that 11 people thought that that was in any way a sensible thing to do, that it would do anything other than embarrass the Hall and embarrass themselves. I don't, I met him. I know him. I don't like him, but you kidding me? Well, right, right. And by the way, let's put this in perspective. Okay, the Hall of Famers, a wax museum. Yeah. You know, it's not the greatest tragedy in the world. You know, it's Madame Tussauds. Well, he'll get in. He'll, he will. I'm not going to worry about it. All right. Enjoy yourself. Thank you for coming on. I'm sorry for wakening you. I'm sorry. I didn't know you were there. Hey, you know what? Writers keep farmers hours. Okay. Yes. They do. We go afterwards. Like sheep. Thanks, Sal. My guys. Sally Jenkins. We will come back with email and jingle. I am Tony Cornheyser. This is the Tony Cornheyser Show. Here comes Tony's mail by email. Here comes Tony's mail by. Go to read some for all of you. 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He went up and told me he didn't need to do this. But he said he had nothing better to do. And he worked away. I happily went to work on my front stoop and walk. And by the time I finished that, he'd taken care of my entire driveway. Nothing. Nothing is better than a friendly neighbor with a snowblower. I did take over a good bottle of wine from later that day. Hope you're all dug out and don't have a sunburn. And I do have a sunburn from Florida. And I admire Steve the sick of ant because he's still shoveling. And I'm not. Well, you've been told. Well, you've been told. And I will say. No. The kindness of strangers that one encounters during these types of storms always blows you away. And on that note, Walter, you're a great man. We would still be trapped if it was not for you. So Walter helped our entire neighborhood out, yes. All right. I'm sure Tony was watching the weather closely on his vacation of Florida. It's Sunday morning, February 1st and the wind chill is 14. Last week was 85. When you were here for the season, you see it all, DG. So yeah, we played a couple of days, played shorts. And it was, yeah, but then, but then I played the last two days I was there in Florida. I played in sweaters. I tussed out the shorts. Yeah, not me. I've had sweaters and all the longer. You were digging out winter caps. Yeah. And long pants. No, I didn't bring the line pants. Who brings line pants to Florida? But it's cold there. And people were complaining. I'm happy to play golf in a sweater and a pair of pants. Totally happy to do it. Doesn't bother me at all. It doesn't have to be 80. But it was under freezing there. Michael Sweden, Baltimore, some good stories, huh? I don't want to hear Tell him Michael has shot an 88 or the weather was beautiful. Good stories involve conflict. I want to hear about Tony versus Florida. I know that happened. Tell us. And I will. I will. The three of us trying to figure out dinner every night. Yeah. Yeah. A high coup from Shad. Snow, sleet, frigid temps. Tony Cornheuser's timing is impeccable. Yeah, it was fine. I mean, I had. You got it. You guys got it right in time. I had no idea when I made the plans. Yeah, couldn't. That it was going to be. It really was. It's a, we haven't had this in so many years. Yeah. It's like record breaking extended cold. I heard that we haven't had the cold spell this deep in this long since 1880. So it's been a minute. So I would, you know, I. The wait for your gas bill. Oh, no, my gas bill was $750. Oh, would you keep the temperature at the house when you're in Florida? 71 because I didn't have, you know, I didn't know. Worried about the pipes. Well, the pipes were fine. I'd open up the cabinets. Greg Collins, under the headline, well, it doesn't matter. Unlike Humphrey Bogart and Casablanca, Tony got on the plane. Um, Evan, Goamander, G-Mand, G-Y, maybe M-O-N-D, G-Mand, in Washington, D-C. Oh, here's, whoa, I know all these people in this picture. I stumbled across this picture while scrolling on Instagram. It's an app on your phone, Ask Michael, the pictures of Ben Affleck, Matt Damon and Bill Simmons, watching the last Patriot Seahawks Super Bowl in 2015. I was about to scroll away from the post when I noticed a certain orange ball presence emanating from the left hand side of the frame. I've been a loyal little since 2020. I don't think I've ever heard you tell the story. Did you really watch a Super Bowl with Ben Affleck and Matt Damon? Yeah, I've told the story. Yeah. I told the story. Yeah, it was it. That was the Malcolm Butler game. The Malcolm Butler game. Yeah. Yeah, and they were ecstatic because you get an interception and you win the game. Yeah, I see Simmons' face and then, oh, look at this. I'm in this picture. By the way, there's another picture going around with you in it on Twitter. It stunned me. You see that? Sports reporters. Yeah. Who's that? Me and Chap and the slupa goes to. 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