Episode 316 - Bobby Moynihan

Now, are all the traitors present? Let's get started, shall we? From rags to riches. I'm so sick of this. Working like a dog and being treated worse. Yorkshire to New York. Or climbers, you and me. A life dedicated to revenge. Let's make this an occasion to remember. A woman of substance on Channel 4, stream now. I was talking recently about like a weird thing and like I started to get really excited about it, which was doing stand up as Drunk Uncle from the character from SNL. And then I just started thinking of like what that would mean. And then like I went straight to like the opening of like a black and white shot of him walking down like a thing. And like you realize you just can't find the plate. Like I was like now I just want to shoot a stand up special as Drunk Uncle. But like him really taking it seriously in old age. That's what I'm doing now. Someone drives him to the gig. Someone's driving him to the gig. All because I just want to do the Matt Reif mic drop at the end as Drunk Uncle. That's it. That's it. It's breaking, Brad. Thanks for being here. I baked you this bread. Thank you so much. This morning. It's not a bit, it's a real loaf of bread that I baked for you. That's beautiful. Thank you. Do we eat bread? Yeah. Look at me. Yes, I love bread. Also, I know how hard it is to make bread. So nice work. Thank you very much. Well, you know, we don't do it for every guest. Wow. Yeah. Sometimes we just buy them something. Sometimes we don't do anything and we pretend we just forgot. Oh. Yeah. But we like you. Thank you. You've been making me laugh for a very long time. Same here. And it's really nice to finally meet you. That's crazy. Same here. That's funny. On the car ride over, I was going, I'm a huge fan, but I was like, I think I've met them before. I don't think we have now. I don't think we have. SNL after parties were a crazy thing. We're like, for 10 years now, people go like, oh, I talked to you for an hour. And I'm like, yeah, I didn't know that. So like sometimes I forget, but I think I wanted to meet you. So in my head, I went like, we met and it went well. Could we have met at the cellar? Sure. I'm always hanging out there trying out my stuff. Because that's the only place I go out in New York. When people come in, they're like, where should we go? I'm like, you can go to the cellar or Gotham? There's nothing I hate more when someone asks, like someone just recently said, I'm going to be in New York. Do you have any recommendations? I'm like, I get Uber Eats at the hotel. Right, exactly. Like, I don't know. I don't know. I don't go to nice restaurants. My agent once asked me to pick a restaurant to go to. And I picked a restaurant. And then I got an email saying that I'm not allowed to pick the restaurant anymore. That's a real thing that happened. Well, I was just like a regular place. An actual roach crawled up the wall. No. I was like, I love this place. I was like, they got good food. But like, they were like, we're never eating there again. One time I went out in New York. I'm not going to name the place because it's, it'll be, it'll be too bad, but it's a great place. But it rhymes with Rick Donald. And I was doing a show and I went with Jerry Seinfeld and his, and his manager. I'm not familiar. He was a 90s guy. Got you. And he was. Crayon's buddy. And we went to this place, which we would go all the time, an Italian place, and I just loved it. And I got risotto and it came out. And there was, it was half of a body of an insect. Like, like a thorax. Like a thorax situation of like the lower half. And it was, and I, this wasn't a bit. I wasn't, I was just like, oh, and then someone saw it. And I, and some of the women we were with was like, hell no, you know, dropping stuff and calling them over. Guys, I'm not waiting for another meal. It's cooked. It's get it out. I'm, I'm, I'm cool with it. I get it. If I was alone, I totally would have eaten it. I get it. You know, I'm still working a pizzeria uno for many, many years and the amount of things like people like watched sitting there cleaning the bar as a bartender. I was just sitting there cleaning the bar, like just hating everything. I watched a woman take an ashtray out of her purse, put it on the ground, smash it with the leg of her chair, take a piece out, put it on her plate and go, waiter. I was like, I watched you do that whole thing. I was like, it took you like a minute and a half. I was like, I just watched you do that whole thing. And she was like, I'd like to talk to you manager. There was glass in my food. I was like, we don't even have ashtrays anymore. Like, yeah, the amount of things like the people do someone. Yeah. A family said, they were like, we found this tooth in our food and it was just like a plastic, a pristine plastic tooth. And I was just like, that's not a real tooth. It's very clean. They have a whole bag. Yeah, a bag of teeth. Yeah. I had a woman call me over and go, I'd like to talk to you manager, please. Sit down. Maybe sit down next to her at the booth. Yeah. I'd like to talk to you manager. And I was like, why is this? And she goes, um. He just sit down. It's a weird move. Yeah. And was like, uh, you can't fool me. I was like, excuse me. And she was like, this is chicken. You can't fool me. And I was like, yeah, no, it's chicken. I know it's chicken. And she was like, no, no, no, you see, it's called rattlesnake pasta. And I was like, yeah. Yes. The name of the meal is rattlesnake pasta, which is chicken with jalapenos because it's got bite. It says it in that paragraph. And she was like, it's supposed to be rattlesnake meat. I would like to talk to a manager, please. And I was, she was very upset that it was not rattlesnake meat. Where was this? Pizzeria Uno in, in, uh, White Plains, New York. Oh, really? Yeah. Very upset that it was not rattlesnake meat and thought she had been had. Yeah. I was like, I know chicken when I taste chicken. Did she get, did she get, uh, money off? No, we kind of just explained it to her. And she was just like, but I'm just saying, I like, she just wanted us to know that she had not been had. It's so scary to think that that person that gets in their car and goes off to the next adventure, you know what I mean? They're just among you. It's, it's amazing. It's amazing. It seems more now more insane. I had, uh, my aunt Lynn who was, she was wonderful. Um, she was in a wheelchair and, uh, a provolone. It's so comforting. It is. It's like having it here. I also didn't know it was a fake provolone. And I know I'm sorry. Well, no, I just now I'm now I'm more upset with myself that I just assumed there was just a wet provolone sitting over here. I literally, it's just been knocking around. And when it's close to me, I just can't stop playing with it while I'm talking. So I've just slid it over because I started playing with it. Yeah. I'm going to stop. It's okay. You can totally do it. I want to get my arms on that ham as well. I know this. Yeah. I know it's not real. I love, I love a fake food and I love anything tiny. What do you mean? Tiny versions of anything. Oh, like a little, yeah. Anything like tiny. I really enjoy. Is this time with this classifier? I like it. I like it a lot. I like it's that tiny Pringle. That's a little, that's two things. I like a thing with a little mustache on it and I like a tiny thing. Are you a Pringle fan? Yeah. They're not a sponsor, but they should be. Very upset with the Pringle people. I was on the road last week and. Not a good way to get them to sponsor you. I know. Well, I mean, why would they give me money with how much I talk about Pringles? It would be the dumbest move ever. And I was on the road in Florida and some fan brought food back because I baked bread and stuff. People bring food a lot and they had a bag of sour cream and onion mingles, which was the Pringle people making a puff and putting them in a bag. Let that soak in everybody. Let that soak in the Pringle people in a bag. And when you said the Pringle mingle, my first thought was like a sour cream chip, an onion chip, a sour cream chip, an onion chip, a sour cream chip, an onion chip. And I was like, say what now? Yeah. Well, why is Tom angry? And then I started my brain immediately went Buffalo Ranch, Buffalo Ranch or Barbecue Ranch. Oh my God. This is amazing. Barbecue Ranch, Barbecue Ranch. That's fantastic. We have a big wooden owl in our house and my brother-in-law came over and we said we got to name it and he went, you should name it Pringle. And I went, why? And he went, because of the potato chips. And I meant, do you mean why is potato chips? And he went, call it wise like an owl. And it was so right. But we still call it Pringle because he was wrong. It's so great. So Pringle people, give us a call. That really, if you were to alternate flavors in a Pringle can and you get, oh. That would be insane. Pringle mingle. That's what I thought you were talking about. That's what I thought it was going to be. And I was like genius. He's talking about the greatest invention of the 21st century. I don't like that. I don't like like a puffy Dorito. No, no, no. Puffy Cheez-It. The Cheez-It people have really gone on. I've been in an airport in the last five years. They've taken entire walls of the Hudson News because of how many flavors they have. I don't want to say this on a podcast, but I'm about to. I have been ordering Baconator Wendy's Baconator flavored Cheez-It's off of TikTok. So many great words in that sentence. What do you mean off of TikTok? Exactly. That's wonderful. TikTok, there's, you know, I don't know if you're on TikTok. No, I think I have to be because our performance is horrible on TikTok. And it's because we're never on it. I go on it and I enjoy lurking on it and there's a TikTok shop and I saw Baconator flavored Cheez-It's go by and I was like, well, I'm going to try that. And I did. Man, now I got a case of them. They are, the word is probably interesting at best. Yeah, yeah, not that great. It kind of just tastes like quarters. I get that. Like there's like a bacon quarter, if that makes sense, like a bacon flavored quarter. You want to know something really weird? Sure. I don't. A lot of bacon flavored quarter. I'm going to be psyched. I don't mess with change. I think we're gone. We've gone beyond coins. It's like I had a bit and all. I don't know what to do with that. Turing treasure around in your pocket. Like telling young people this is how we paid for things. And I had some in the, I had some in my house and I put it in a little bag and I'm like, I'll use it for meters when I'm going to ever and I went to go put it in the meter and they clogged it up. Like you can't use like you can't use coins anymore. And I have a quarter in my pocket and I was sent and I don't know why, but in the, in the elevator coming up, I was like, I'm going to give Bobby a quarter and just tell him I brought you some treasure. Thank you. Yeah. I'm going to keep this forever. I've been a framer for a long time and I have a weird problem with what people give me things. I'll keep this for the rest of my life. That's really cool. Yeah. I literally was thinking like, and I was like, it's not a great bit. It's not a great bit. I love it. Thank you. Do you know, I recently bought a few quarters off of eBay because I heard this story. I like weird things and I heard this story and I thought it was real dumb. So I bought a couple. When the movie Rise of the Silver Surfer came out, Universal Pictures for some reason thought it was a good idea or I'm not sure who I think it was. Just printed the Silver Surfer on the back of a bunch of quarters and released them, which is highly elite. Just changing currency and immediately got in trouble for it. I was like, that's crazy. I found a couple on eBay and I bought them because I was like, that's nuts that they did that. That's amazing. Did you live in a place that had railroad tracks? We used to, in Northern New Jersey, we would go down by the railroad tracks and put coins on the track and let the train go through them and then they'd be all. I lived five minutes away from Metro North Station. The idea of going down into that was like, no, that's deaf. Yeah, that's a whole other thing. No, I didn't grow up like, hey, let's go walk on the train tracks. There was like morning computers. With our fishing poles. The train was a big part of my childhood life. I lived in West Chester County, so we would just go down to the city. I lived right near the Crestwood train station. So we would just. Oh, nice. You would go with your family, like when you were young or like when you were a teen? Yeah, I would just go down to the city or go see a Broadway show. Or like, like go do weird or go to like comedy clubs and like. Oh, really? I try to stand up late. I would go watch comedy and then like after college, I went to. Maybe it was Stand Up New York. Yeah, a baro ass. Yeah, and like took a took a stand up comedy class and like realized instantly that I was like, oh, like I want to do comedy, but not this. Oh, really? Well, yeah, I was like, I don't want to stand on stage and tell you my opinion. Right. Tuesday night for the next 10 years until I'm good at this. Like it was like, I feel like I realized I watched like the people at the bar on my first night. And I remember seeing a couple of people and like our class show was like. Five o'clock on a Tuesday. It wasn't a lot of people there. I was first of all, I wore a suit. Yeah. I'm with you. And right before I went up, they were like, hey, this girl here has to make a video for an audition and it was Sarah Silverman. And she like came in, made a tape real quick and like up crushed. And I was like. And then they were like here for his class show is Bobby. This guy Bobby Moynihan. And I was like, cigarettes, miles and cigarettes are crazy, right? I got a kayak with my miles. I couldn't use it because I smoke too much. I was like, I'm sorry, I shouldn't do this. I literally heard that joke back then. Oh, yeah. During the during the miles. Amazing. Yeah. Yeah. That was that was one of my first jokes that I thought was really funny. That's so funny. What if I saw you? What year would that have been? In like 2000. And it would have had to been there at five. Yeah. I graduated high school in 95. 99 was college. Yeah, it was right after college. Right after college. Yeah, I realized immediately like. Yeah, really? Well, I think very shortly after I found up right, citizens brigade and went, oh, improv, got it. Right. That's what I want to do. I want to make up dumb shit with a bunch of other people. Right. Right. What was so what was so repellent about. Standing out there and talking about your opinion, like what part of that? Well, like, I think I grew up loving stand up. Like I grew up watching so much of it and like. At that time was just like still, like probably just like watching Mr. Show and SNL and dreaming of it and not being sure. Well, no, I was done with college. I was an acting major in college and I came back and I was like searching. I was like, what am I doing? Right. And I did like an off-broadway show about it was like, everyone's dead. The whole everyone was dead the whole time. You know, like that show and like did that for a little while. It was that show. We've all been to that show. And. Poor people sitting in a chair and one had a scarf on. Yeah. No. Set. That was really cool. I cried. And then like took that stand up class and like. I don't want to call him out, but I remember the teacher. Like he was it was very abundant. He was like, we wrote down like a couple of things in our first class. And he was like, that's what you're writing your jokes about. And like two weeks in, I was like, well, now I understand a little bit better. I was like, I think I want to do this. And he was like, no, do the other stuff. And I was like, all right. I don't know why, but sure. And I remember even then being like, I disagree with just his teaching. And was like, no, this is not right. Yeah. And. But yeah, I then hanging around that comedy club. I was like, I'm going to die if I do this. Like I would be dead in a year. It was too suffocating. Like it was too small. I would just sit at the bar all night and get like, you know, and like, you know what I mean? Like it was just it was I think I would have just. Become a depressed romanticize the struggling comic. You know, I think. But I was walking down the street. I saw upright citizens brigade. I went inside. I watched your show. Do you know Colton Dunn? Yeah. I like I saw a show. He opened up like a fake window came in a scene and I was just like, well, that was nuts. Like that was insane. Yeah. I remember going like, whoa. Yeah. And then. Like never left that place for nine years. I was interesting. After I got their Amy Polar got SNL and I was like, oh, I'm never leaving. Right. Yeah. That's what I want to do is SNL. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Did you want to do SNL when you were a kid? You did. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah. I have like videos of me as a kid going like, Bobby, and they pretending to do the opening credits and like. Oh, really? That's great. When I was a kid, I used to get called out. Brought down by my parents to do a Gilda Radner monologues. I would just do. I was like eight. Just doing Gilda Radner. I have a very distinctive memory of setting like going like going to like, I didn't have a lot of family growing. It was just me, my mom, my dad, my sister. And like, we only had a couple of relatives and they were far away. And one time we went to visit them and I didn't know how to be at someone else's. House. So I just like hid in the basement and was like, I'm putting on it. I'm going to put on a show later. So like, give me some time to set up and like just went and hid in the basement, essentially, for hours and like set up a very elaborate thing, just like playing. Yeah. And then they were like, dinner's ready. And I was like, I'm not coming. And like, think maybe I didn't go to dinner. And then like, after dinner was like, come downstairs and put on like a very elaborate show that involved a Nerf gun, like hitting some. And like, I actually hit, I went like hit the thing. And I remember everyone in the room being like, do you really just do that? What just happened? What is happening right now? I put on a very elaborate people show as a child, like that had magic involved. Isn't it funny? Like that instinct to do that is just. Oh, yeah. Just like that, you know, it's other instincts for kids to, you know, care for things or be with animals. But that thing to like just perform. My kid, I got an eight year old and a three year old daughter, both daughters. The eight year old had a presentation for school today. A she'd been working on it for weeks. Icons, they had to pick and pick somebody who they think they they who impacted their lives. And she picked Tim Burton. And she she made a movie, a horror movie called The Purse. Whoa. About a and she did it all herself. She's eight. Yeah. She got an app and like made a movie on her phone called The Purse. It's a horror movie. And but my favorite thing, she had to make like a poster for it. And it's my face. She was like, I got I got this. I know exactly what I want to do. And I'll show you later. Get out of my way. Caught out all the pickle, all these different characters of from his movies. And then a picture of Tim Burton in the road. She just wrote Tim on his forehead and then across his chest. Just wrote, yes, queen. No reason. It's my favorite thing in the world. I was never so happy in my life. And great. And but wrote a bunch of things like put a picture of Beetlejuice and wrote Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice. Na, I can't say it three times. Like all her bits that she put in that she came up with. And she found the alien from Mars attacks. And she's like, whoever this guy is. And like, I'm just watching her write jokes. And she was kind of more excited about the bits than about like. Yeah. She's like, Dad, you know, he grew up in Burbank. And I was like, what? I was like, that's like a real fact. That's amazing. She's like, yeah, pretty crazy. She knows a lot about him, too. And I was like, no, I'm down. Isn't it amazing how like when you have those moments with when your kids are that age, where they surprise you like with this kind of stuff, like she has all these bits in her head. And I would always think I'm just seeing you every day. I have no idea that you're getting stuff from other people, that you're putting it together, that you're like you have ideas like they just like, oh, you're out there doing so much more than I see at dinner. She's going this morning like going to the class. They had to do the presentations and like walking in. She's got a red wig, a big like McDonald like Ronald McDonald red wig on. She walks in the classroom and everyone in the classroom is like, Gerald. And she starts doing this voice. And then I realized in her movie, she plays like this character named Gerald. And I think it's like a character she does at school. And like then she put it in and like afterward, she was like, Gerald's going to be in the sequel and like other kids were like, Gerald. And I was like, oh, my God, oh, my God. Like it was just not that's amazing. That's so great. She's got a couple of characters right now. I said, you have any new character? And she went like this. She goes, I'm working on a new one. I said, what's his name? And she went, William. It's the best. The best. It's the best. How aware is she of you and your ride? The eight year old knows what I do and like doesn't care. Like it's not a it's she's like, oh, awesome. You do what you like. I think it's very commonplace. But like recently I was in a Pixar movie and she went like like there's a little bit of like, oh, like there was a little. Well, because like other kids started asking her about it. And I think that was like it. There was like a little bit of a level up. Yeah, where she went like, like we got stopped. The other somebody. Excuse me. Are you and she went, he's King George and Hoppers and he was on SNL. Yeah, she got like annoyed by it. And I was like, you don't have to say anything to anybody. You know what I mean? Like it was like that was the first time I had to like do you know what it you're right, right. And the three year old hates it. Yeah. Yeah. Here's my voice and something or like a laugh and goes like weird. That is weird. Yeah. Whenever there was anything that I was on, my daughters would stand in front of the TV and start dancing to start putting on the show. Like why did mom put this on? A close friend of mine, Taryn Killham was on Sesame Street and we put on the episode and my daughter was like, I hate this. I tell Taryn, I was like, I'm so she just did not like your performance. Thumbs down. We had very good. He was very. She just not for her. I had a similar thing where it was around that age when I was in the B movie and that was like, and you bring them to the premiere and do all that stuff. And it was like that one, like for the first time, just like gate got me some cred. Well, that too. It's like, how do you that? It's like someone someone at school as like, you know, like I'm going to the movies this this weekend, she's like, Oh, is it the premiere? And you go like, Oh, yeah, you grew up in L.A. Or like she brought a friend with her to the premiere and the friend was like, this isn't my first premiere. And I was like, wow, you're eight. Exactly. So I know. So it is an interesting. It is. It is. It's great, but it's weird. Explain. Like it's just my job. It's just that my job's on TV sometime. Yeah. I know. And everybody else is the same kind of thing. Yeah. It was the first time like my wife was driving. Like they saw on a billboard for a read the Richie Dinkins, the MPC show. And like, yeah, that. And then across the street is a hoppers one. And they kind of went like, what's happening? They know I'm in hoppers, but they didn't know about that one. But my face is on that one. Not on that one. And I was like, yeah, this is a really nice moment for you. And that was a good week. Yeah, it's really good. An interesting time right now. Very lucky. This is a can we call it a hit TV show? Because it seems like everybody loves it. I would like for you to just for just for my daughters can go to college. No, but really, I've only seen the first one. And it first one is my least favorite one. Is it really? Yeah. Well, and it's great. I mean, it's just if a show that's going to last is going to have great characters are going to take you along, you've got it. I've never been on. I've never been on anything where like we shot the pilot and I was like, wow, I really hope this gets picked up because that was fun. And I really hope they give us a chance to hit the ground running. And then like they did and it was so fun. And I like I love it. You feel it. You feel like I mean, it's always hard to. Yeah, you know, I never know. Yeah, I just went, I, you know, you know what it was? Was like when it was over, I went, man, that was a blast. I met like Daniel Radcliffe is like the best. Erica Alexander, like it's also a show about a family. And we were for three months, we were just in a fake house pretending to be a family, making a fake movie. And it felt like that. Yeah. Tracy's nuts in the best way possible. Like it's just all insanity and love with him. Yeah. And like, Daniel's just meeting Daniel Radcliffe and just like getting to know him and just his whole story and his whole life is just like. Yeah. Yeah. And he's been a part of our life for such a long time. Yeah. Like I I don't know if I've ever said this to him, but like I hate him. No, just kidding. No, I know I I didn't like grow up on Harry Potter. Like Harry Potter, I think I was probably like college or something. Yeah. But like it wasn't it just never I was nerdy about other stuff. But like it comes up so much and like just being around him. He's just such an insanely good person. Yeah. Good at handling all of that. He must have had really good people around him to take his whole childhood and rise up that way and be he. Yeah, you just go like your parents must have been awesome. And whoever whoever was around you through all of that did a fantastic job. And like it's not like the kids in the in the early 80s and movies and we're just like going totally just allowed to just here's money. Go enjoy yourself in LA. Right. Yeah. No rules, no laws. Yeah. My daughters were like I got to follow the whole Harry Potter because it was it's synced up with their childhood. So yeah, so by the time the movies and it was just really great. My daughters like haven't gotten back like into that yet. Like we haven't gotten into that and also like. I don't like we haven't gotten the books for them. But I don't know now. Yeah, it's supposed to do that now. I think because of her. Oh, come on. Maybe. Probably. Maybe. But they're still great books. Yeah. Yeah. They are going to give her like really niche the Star Wars books, like but like the ones that like expanded universe where it was like one character. Was that your thing where you was Star Wars kid? Yeah. Yeah. That was yours. It was like I had a book about it was like. What's his name? John Ratzenberger was an extra in Empire Strikes Back. His name was like Colonel. They gave him a name probably like 20 years later when they realized it was him. Yeah. Right. And they wrote like a book about his character. And like I think I read that. Just his own story. Yeah. Just like it would be like some alien in the background and they would write these like long books about them. That's great. We'd like to thank the good people at Butcher Box for sponsoring today's program. You know, these weeks when you're trying to eat well and you've got good intentions, maybe you even bought a vegetable or two. 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Yeah, like the cool comedy kids that John hangs out with. Have you seen it? They're all they're all really down with it. I have not yet. I was supposed to go this weekend. I wasn't able to make it. But one of my friends said I was the lizard and I was like, all right, I have to see this because if you are being mean to me, I'm going to be. No, I know it's a compliment. The lizard in the movie is very different than the lizard in the media. If that makes sense. Well, the lizard, it's very funny to me, the lizard, like being a part of it. Like it's. This whole thing is very. So Daniel Chong, the director, was a guy that I met like 15 years ago doing this cartoon called We Bare Bears. I auditioned for a cartoon called We Bare Bears. This guy, Daniel Chong, created it. I had known his work. He did like comic strips. Oh, yeah. And like I had seen a couple of them. And when I got the audition, I was like psyched. And I remember thinking like, oh, I love this guy. Like I would love to be a part of this. We met and I was he's the sweetest dude in the world. And we did that show for a bunch of years and like I loved it. It's like cartoon therapy. It's like he's just a sweetheart. And it was all about three bears like who live in California, but they aren't from there. And I think it was just like him being Korean and moving to California and trying to become an animator and like feeling left out. And he just always. He's one of those dudes who like he's very funny. But like it was all about like heart also. And like the show was really sweet and beautiful. And I always loved it and thought it was super special. And we like he's kind of not a shy guy, but like we would go to Comic Con together and like for many years because of the show. We dug out a bunch of when the show ended. I was like, I don't want this to end like I miss you. And he was like, well, I'm going back to my old job. You should do that. Come come do this thing I'm doing over there. And I was like, great. Like let me know. And he's like, I'll call you next week. And I get a thing the next week saying you want to be the lead in this Pixar movie. And I was like, his old job is Pixar. Like literally like you thought he was going to enterprise a rent a car. And was like, what? And then the next thing I know, we're making this Pixar movie. And like just being able to like as a fan of that stuff and like a fan of Pixar and animation, just that in general, like to have a close friend who is brilliant enough to make one that needed to be made and to be in it. Like it has been just that simple idea. It's so it's a genius. When you beautiful, you're taking human brains and putting them in animals or the soul, the closest thing. Oh, gosh, go for it. It feels like the closest thing, a corporate thing can make about saying a things about a corporate thing. Does that it feels like the most you can go like, hey, we should have heart and care about each other. Right. I know we're trying to make money here. You're right. But like it's just like it feels a little bit like it leans more on hope. And like, oh, it's great. Yeah, they just he I'm like, I had worked on it for years. And my I got my daughter's first name in it, Dorothy, but not the second daughter because she wasn't born yet. That's how long ago it was recorded. And then I'd seen it. I've seen bits and pieces of it. I did ADR, blah, blah, blah. Yeah. And then at the premiere, we saw it in front of an audience and I went like, oh, right, man. Yeah. Like I haven't been in a movie theater with a bunch of people in a while. And like, there's a couple like big swings and like, yeah, there's a big shock moment and like everything just hit perfect. And I remember I just remember thinking like, this was so cool. I'm so happy. I'm so great. It was did he write it also? Yeah. No, him and and yes, him and Jesse wrote it. Yes. He wrote half of it. Exactly half. Exactly. Yeah. Oh, that's really great. That's a great story that you just like I love when it's when it's so organic, that you just like this guy. It seems like you have a lot of that in your career. Like it seems like it seems like like Amy Poehler and like all that that whole UCB to SNL. Like it seems like you're I have always said, I feel like a kid who's just walking around and the door opens and he's like, what's in the air? And then I go in and then like, I'm working there. If that makes sense. Yeah, this is not a bit. I my when my daughter was six years old or six birthday party, we had just moved to L.A. One of the parents came over to me and she was like, hey, what's going on? You're Dorothy's father. And I was like, yeah, Bobby, you know, she's like, we just saw a movie yesterday called if and you were in it. And I was like, yeah, yeah, it was. And she goes, I'm the showrunner of a new show called NCIS Origins. Do you want to play the doctor on it? I was like, yeah. Yeah, yeah, that would be great. That's like shoots right down the street. She's like, yeah, we're a universal right down here. I was like, fantastic. And I think I just finished episode 18 of NCIS Origins, which I've been on now and we've got season three. It's the best. It's so crazy. The dumbest, I was like, completely joking. I was like, do I want to be a doctor on like a cop? Turn out like a cop procedure? Oh, yes. Like literally just made myself laugh of like how weird that would be. So great. Dumbest thing I've ever stepped into my favorite job in the world. Could you imagine? One day a week and it's the best. Could you imagine if you had stayed at Standup New York and been like, I'm going to get this cigarette miles joke to work. Your whole career would have been over. I remember my big thing and this was like non-negotiable, like from the start, from day one, I knew that I was going to do this. And I did it and it got nothing. I went, thank you, that was my time. Save the whales. I thought it would be really, really funny to say save the whales. People were like, oh, that's sweet. Like, thank you for that message at the end there. And I was like, oh, they were supposed to laugh. A weird thing to say. You would have been stuck in a standup cul-de-sac. I was a terrible standup comedian. Even if you had gotten good, though, like even if you were, you would have. You would have gotten good, but it wouldn't have had these opportunities that this other path. It's not what I'm good at. I don't want I don't want you to know what I'm thinking about stuff. I would be, you know, like I was talking recently about like a weird thing. And like, I started to get really excited about it, which was doing stand up as drunk uncle from the character from the now. And then I just started thinking of like what that would mean. Like, and then like I went straight to like. The opening of like a black and white shot of him walking down like a thing. And like, but like, you realize you just can't find the plate. Like I was like, now I just want to shoot a stand up special as drunk uncle. But like him really taking it seriously in old age. Like, I'm doing now. And I think I'm not. Into the game. Someone's driving him to the game. All because I just want to do the Matt Reif mic drop at the end. As drunk uncle. That's it. That's it. So when you were in school, when you were it was Shakespeare, right? Like you were or was that I did some. I know that was listed as part of your thing where you did you. So you're an acting major. I was an acting major at the University of Connecticut. The University of Connecticut. And did you quickly get good parts of it? It cultivated it. It was a fantastic experience. It was like a small class. There was maybe like 15 kids like in our whole class. Like it was like and it was a very tight knit community. There was also I went there because there was a puppetry department. It was like the only school in America that had like a puppetry department. So like the puppetry majors and the acting majors and like the dance majors. Like it was all like the arts. Yeah, it was very fun. Yeah, that's great. I got a lot of fun parts. And was Shakespeare a part of that program? Or is that I did? I did King Lear in college and then started doing like a Shakespeare company. Like, yeah, for a little bit. And then while in school, right after maybe or like more during a summer maybe. And then went, this is not. Yeah, it was. It was not. Yeah. I've always I've always been intrigued by it. Like in when I was acting in school and that kind of thing. And and I never could. And but when I see it now, like when I see this is this is really shows my depth of it. When I see clips on Instagram of people's model, I was doing it and I can like watch it five times and understand it. I'm like, this is really so good. It's a beautiful lost art. Yeah, right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, just that this person wrote all this stuff and was so on point with humanity. That's the part that excites me. But then when I. Well, yeah, it's like you start like it's like that. It's like he was inventing new words. Like it was probably the coolest thing in the world. Like I think about people going like, you see that Shakespeare show? Like he said a word that is now a new word. Yeah. Like us talking about like standups now. Right, exactly. It's it's but it wasn't for you. It didn't stick that part of it. Were you were you good at it? Is it stand up? No, it's the Shakespeare. I was I was like a fire fish. You know, I was always like the fat one who came in and screamed and like, you know, like, you know, like I got those parts. You were right. The parts I got and like, yeah, they were fine. Yeah. But like. I did musicals and like that. I excelled at or thought I did. Like I was a good dancer. So like, like I fancied myself a bit of a song and dance man. My wife was a Broadway singer and went, I cannot sing. Not sing in any way, shape or form. Like, yeah, yeah. I think I was a little delusional because I was like the best singer at my school or not even close. I just was like a ham. He just just confidence. Yeah, just confidence. Yeah. And then heard my wife sing and went like, oh, that's crazy. And then like. As we started dating, like just realized like what she went through to get to Broadway right wanted to do that and just went like, oh, my God. How did you guys meet? I was her improv teacher. Oh, really? I hate it. Really? Well, we met. You see me? Yeah. She took an improv class. I remember her walking in the door. Mm hmm. Because I was like, that's that girl. I saw her on the Today Show. She was an Avenue Q. Uh huh. Yeah. Yeah. And I remember thinking like, that's a hot puppeteer. I've never seen that before. Even the puppet thing alive. And then she was like, I think that's that girl. And I was like, yeah. And then when the class was over, like a couple of weeks later, I was like, you want to go out sometime? Nice. And then I found out about us and now I called my mom and I called her and we were just dating. And like, we've just been together ever since. Oh, that's fantastic. Tell me about getting SNL. I'm sorry if you're tired talking about it. Is it boring to talk about it or is it you do you like talking about it? I love talking about it. But I think I used to love talking about it. And now I'm at a point where I'm realizing I'm like, I don't need to talk about it all the time. I used to need to. Right. A lot more. Yeah. I saw a very funny. After the 50th, I went like. OK. Yeah. Like, I think before the 50th, there was still like. And I work there, right? Right. Right. And like after the 50th, it was like, that was a blast. Right. Nine years. Yeah. That's a good run. Yeah. Yeah. It was it was so funny on there. Thanks, man. Such great energy. I saw a very funny clip where you say, I don't know what you. Someone was playing you and you were playing the interview interviewer and you were shitting on yourself as that. You were saying to yourself to you, you were saying you just get missed. Miss took for her ratio, Sam's. Oh, you're saying honest. No, I know what you're talking about. Yes, all the time. Yeah. One of the best things that's ever happened to me was when I when I was on SNL, yeah, I went to lunch with her ratio right near UCB at this Chinese food place and we were standing outside. Yeah. I was a smoker at the time. I was smoking a cigarette and her ratio was standing with me. And a girl ran up to us, looked at me in the face and went, Oh, how my God, Saturday Night Live. Carol is one of my favorite characters in the world, which is one of her ratio's characters. And then she looked at him and got confused and then looked back at me and went, What are you guys doing? It was the best reaction in the world. She's like, as if we would have this prank on her. Yeah. And she kind of just walked away. But it was the what are you guys doing as if we had. How long were you at UCB before you got a shot? Eight years. Well, 2000 I started. Eight years and 2008 I got SNL. Yeah. But I was at UCB for like many of still there. You know what I mean? But just not religiously. Like we were there every night. Right. Yeah. Were those fun years? Yeah, that was the best. Where were you living? In a walk-in closet in Brooklyn. In Brooklyn. Yeah. Living in. Well, I lived in Brooklyn for a little while and my literally like eight of my friends and I lived in a walk-in. I paid 200 bucks and I lived in a walk-in closet. There was just a mattress on the floor. Sorry to see the classes and then like 9-11 happened. And then I think I moved back home to Westchester and I was computing to like UCB. Right. Westchester for a little bit. Could you see the towers from your Brooklyn from your where your spot was? Yes, but I wasn't. Not on the day. I mean, just like as it was. Yes. That was always just if you were grew up and we're right. It was the lack of them was the most astonishing thing. Yes. Right. You would orient. Yes, still because you would orient your whole drive down the highways coming out of the train. It was that was your that was your. It's crazy. Yeah. It was crazy. So you just decided let me get out of the city for a bit and go back Westchester. Yeah. No, I was working at the South. I was working at a pizzeria uno on the South Street seaport. And I think it closed down because like rats tip took it over during the. Yeah. Or not pandemic, the during the crisis. Yeah. Shut down. So I just moved back home started working in Yonkers and like drove back and forth every night. Right. UCB. Yeah. What was your favorite character at UCB before you got the show? Like did any transfer to the show? Yes. Like what were you was? Did you have a killer one that the on my very first show? It was supposed to be. Tom Hanks. And then. Last minute. It was switched to Michael Phelps. Who had just won the gold or some won the Olympics. And which I think benefited me a great deal. Because if it was Tom Hanks, I don't think I would have been in the show. But we got a very tired Michael Phelps who had just gotten back from the Olympics and Greece and was like exhausted. Yeah. And was like not wanting to perform on SNL. So I got like to do a lot in the first episode. And I got a sketch on that I wrote, which was like a character sketch that I did for my audition and like I had done it at UCB like two nights before with like my sketch group. And then like two nights later did it on SNL with Amy Polar and Michael Phelps. It's so crazy. Yeah, it was word for word. Like I still can't believe it. That's beautiful. That was crazy. Yeah. But I don't think I would have. That would have happened if it wasn't for Michael Phelps. Right. Being such a good swimmer. Yes, exactly. Barack Obama was supposed to like be in the monologue. It was the first time. First time Tina did. Sarah Palin was like a big show. Right. Oh, man. Oh, that's a big one. Yeah, it was crazy. What about the SNL UK one? Oh, it's great. Why? I haven't seen it. So did it's fantastic. Yeah. I mean, as an SNL fan just like growing up, like it's I just love that they're doing it other places. Yeah. They crushed it. I'm so happy Tina did it. Yeah. Yeah. I'm a huge Tina fan. So like that was like a blast. It was just it's just it's cool. It's it's cool. Yeah. It's one of those things like, oh, why didn't they do this years ago? 100 percent. There's one kid that's blown up. He played Princess Diana and like it's so cool to see like he's like him. Like it's just great. Yeah. I want to see them cry. And then like now I want to see them come over here. Right. Over here. Like let's start. Yeah, like bounce back and forth. As well as you all star shows with everybody. Yeah. My dream for the 50th was like I would say it to like around SNL, like around producers. I was just like, you know, if I had in my way, the 50th would just be like like an all star season. Like one episode was just David Spade and and and Lorraine Newman and Jay Farrow and then the next episode, like, you know, just like have like a bunch of people from different years. Of all. Yeah. And I get to be and I get to be the guy. Yeah. Just because I want to perform with Lorraine Newman. Oh, it's amazing. I had I was doing Sketch Fest in San Francisco and Lorraine Newman, we were doing some show. It was just this mess of a thing at Cobbs. And I saw Lorraine Newman and I was like, I was just trying to come up with something to get through the conversation to make her like me. And I mentioned jazz and she hates jazz like no one else has ever hated jazz. So happy. It makes me so happy. She's just like just like crestfallen just like, oh, I thought we were having a nice time. Oh, that is the best. She is like. I. Yeah. Yeah. As an S and L fan, when you go like it's just like, I can't believe she knows who I am. But like, she's just been so kind to me and so wonderful. And like, I've had a lot of interactions with her now and done a bunch of shows with her. And the more I do, the more I fall in love with her. Yeah. Her kids are amazing. Yeah. She's so, so funny. Yeah. So quick. Dry. Oh. And mean about that. How long have you been doing it now? I've been a comedian for 33 years. Isn't that stupid? It's so crazy. I can't even say it. It's crazy. 33. Yeah, it's insane. It's crazy. It's so silly. It's so silly. Stand up, New York. That was my first place. Really? Wow. Mm hmm. I remember. I remember very early on and like. Or like not last comic standing me or like was one of the. Comedy Central presents. One of those. Yeah. It's like. Yeah. That was like that was my era was like. Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Just a suit from a second hand store and not knowing what you're doing. And it's so funny. Did you wear a suit? I wore a suit my first time doing stand up thinking like that's what I should do. Yeah. We made in the very beginning. I was I was I had long curly hair. And I was super high energy because I I didn't I was too scared for them not to hear them not laughing. So I'd go really fast and it would kind of like lunge back and forth. And I thought I was Sam Kinnison when I started. My yeah, the one. Well, not the one thing, but one of the my biggest regrets about SNL was they asked or like they should like you should do Sam Kinnison. And I went like and I did it. And it's my least favorite thing I've ever done. Really? Yes. Yes. Why? Because I'm not an impressionist. There are people who do impressions and like Sam Kinnison is like I feel like Sam Kinnison is a tiny bit like walking like you can you just got a scream. Yes. Still didn't do it well. And I was like, I was like, this guy's great. And like, I'm just not good. I had a moment 15 years ago, probably at the Laugh Factory. And there was an impressionist who was really good and he did Kinnison and it just didn't go over because no one knew who Kinnison was. Yeah, that's happening now to like an improv shows. I'll mention something. Yeah. Like the crowd just doesn't know what I'm talking about. And I'm like, oh, man. Yeah, I know the references. You're like, yeah. Yeah. That's yeah. I mean, like you don't see a lot of Sam Kinnison around. No, you don't. You don't. That's that's crazy. I know. Realizing that you just don't see that. Mm hmm. Brian Regan, my daughter watches these videos. She found this guy on YouTube and the only reason I let him watch it is because it's the it's the most niche thing I've ever seen. Do you know who Brian Posein is? Yeah, of course. Just for just for framing. The guy looks exactly like Brian Posein. I know it's not Brian Posein, but every time I see him, I'm like, that's Brian Posein. Yeah, it's not him. He looks exactly like him. Uh huh. All he does is make videos where he is lip syncing to so he to Brian Regan. Stand up, but he's just going like and making real like exaggerated faces, I would say. That's crazy over it. And I don't know why, but my daughter loves it. And I just love that she's getting like Brian Regan jokes from this guy. And like I try and show her regular Brian Regan and she's like, nah, I like the guy who makes the dumb faces. And I was like, this man is a genius. I was like, I've been watching him since I was 12. Show him some respect. This guy doesn't exist without this guy. The bulgy eyes, does it? But like, she just wants to see. Yeah, it's bizarre. It's wild. So she knows like 10 Brian Regan bits at the age of eight. That's so great. My favorite. Oh man, she really sounds special. She really does. She's a, she's a hoot. Yeah. Do you have a, do you have a good Halloween at your house? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I had two girls too. I still have them, but they're 21 and 23. And what was the hardest part? What was the hardest on your brain mentally? The hardest part of my brain was the very, very beginning. Like the baby, your whole life is like, I, I thought, well, this is going to change my life, but you know, I'll still get to read the paper in the morning. You know? Yeah. And then you realize, no, there's not even a minute to pick up the paper. Like your life is completely upside down and inside out. My wife and I went to breakfast together after the presentation this morning. And it was like, just complete silence. Yeah. We just sat there like, like just breathing for an hour because we were like. Because you were blown away? Just no, just like, what is happening? Like this is hard. Like, you know, it's like, I love those moments, those breakfasts after, because as a, as a comedian, you, you don't have to go off to work. Yeah. Unless you're on it. And those, if you go and do something parenting at the school, it's like from the hours of nine to 10 a.m. Yeah. You want to go get something to eat and you just. Old selves for an hour. Yeah. Just tired. I love those. Those were great. And my wife would always push it. I would always be like, let's just go back to bed or whatever. And she'd be like, let's go get something to eat. Okay. And those were really special. Those little. It was, it was wonderful, but we were both tired. Oh man, those little girls, it's so great. It's the best. That's why I asked about Halloween. That was like our, that was our, our biggest holiday. I was never like a big Halloween guy. Yeah. My daughter, like the first Halloween where she could do it was like, she found Wednesday Adams and it was like, so mom was Morticia and I went and got a cousin it. Yeah. The thing on Amazon, it was amazing. And like, then that was it. Yeah. We set the bar way too high. So it was like now every Halloween we're doing whole family things. I'm sure we're going to now we have, I'm pretty sure we're going to have to do frozen. Right. Two year old, the three year old just found frozen like a week ago. So now you're in. When I hear the frozen two music, I get like panic attacks, but it's the pandemic. Oh yeah. That was just frozen too was the pandemic. Nonstop. Yeah. Yeah. When you're, when you are going through these changes, like now you're, now you're a dad and you've got these beautiful kids and like as a stand up, you could always kind of, I would always. Write about what I was going through and like, you know, it would try, it would try and gobble my entire act or just be in writing or whatever. And it was very expressive way to kind of like, you know, kind of figure out where I matter and just, you know, get all that kind of thing. In improv and that do you have, is it like you're playing the dads now and you're doing that kind of thing? Does it kind of have that same kind of cathartic thing about your life? Or is it? I see you saying like, I would, you know what I mean? When I was at SNL, I was definitely like writing, like I would have this feeling or write more like this character and like write this character because this is how I was feeling. Now I go like, it all changed. Like it's like now, like I'm just trying to find work that doesn't keep me away from my kids. And if it does keep me away from my kids, I have to love it so much. That it, that it's okay. So it's all just become different work like what I want. Like now I'm like, I want to write children's books more because like I want them to like, you know, or like, just stuff is changing or so it's like in your choices of how you're going to express it. And yeah, 100%. Yeah, I guess. Yeah. Well, I'm sure it happens subconsciously. I'm right. You know, I mean, there is a reason that you're shooting something in town and you're in animation and yeah, it feels like 10 minutes ago I was a comedian and now all of a sudden I just realized somehow in the past couple of months, like I'm an elder statesman father. Like just I, yeah, I'm in a very different place than I was a couple of years ago. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, but you're still. I also, I asked because like I'm terrified of the teenage years of that, like when that comes. Right. I don't know. I mean, there's definitely, you know, angst filled, you know, they, they're going through stuff that they don't understand like literally an emotional like a hormonal dump for, they could last for a year and a half where they pop out of it and they're like, well, that was weird. I didn't, I didn't really know who I was for the last year and a half. So it's, but I think in a non serious house where you're always laughing and you're always kind of, you know, being on comedy kind of makes you be honest about everything. Right. So when you're raising your kids, you have that same thing. And even if they're going through those moments, there's always like a laugh at the end that kept them close. And I think that was the thing that got us through all of it. It wasn't as angst filled even in its, you know, craziest moments. If that makes sense. Thank you. This is the best therapy I've had. This whole thing has felt like an hour long therapy session. I appreciate it. I like to tell people what to do. I like to listen and follow blindly. So that's amazing. Also, I was a heavy smoker for a long time. I haven't had a cigarette in many years. Just seeing a pack of cigarettes this close to me this whole time, I have, I have felt, never felt so tempted in my life. Really? Well, it's just, I also just bred like this is an environment. Yeah. Like, yeah, the most time I miss smoking was like, I'll have Chinese food. It's been probably 10 years. You know, whatever. And I'll have Chinese food and right after I'm like, I would kill a human being. Yeah. I apologize. Thank you. It's just, it's just there is a prop. The bread you have to eat. It looks great. I think I can't. I meant to say earlier, like, am I allowed to eat the bread? Am I supposed to eat the bread? You can bring you have butter. You can bring it home. We have olive oil, but you should bring it home to your family. Great. I never smoked cigarettes. But I, for some reason, it's so such a part of the culture that like, if we have like a long road trip, like this last weekend, we had a long ride between gigs. And I just kept at the end of the ride was like, I just see myself outside the hotel before we go in, just smoking a cigarette before we go in. I've never smoked, but it just seems like I need that moment. It's a romantic thing. It is so romantic. It's really romantic. I also wish I was someone who could just have one and then not have one for like two years and then maybe have one again. What was the Kevin Spacey when he was the president movie? House of Cards. Yeah. The series. And he would do that cool thing at the end of each episode. Everything he does is cool. His character. His character would open up that little wooden box and take one cigarette out and smoke that before Ben. And I remember saying to my friend, oh, that's how I want to do it. And my friend said, yeah, if only that's how cigarettes work. Yeah. Yeah. Not the case. Yeah. No, that's. If I like went like, I missed that. I would just start walking to a store to buy a carton of Marlboro mediums while I was smoking that one in hope that I got to the next one. Yeah. Yeah. On a writing night at SNL, I would go through two, three packs a night. For real? Oh, yeah. Two or three packs? Easy. Really? You smoke them all the way down or just keep? Just chain smoking like an idiot. Wow. That's cool. Man, shouldn't I said that? I'm sorry, honey. When you see this in 50 years on your hologram. Yeah, the hologram of you. Oh, man. Well, this was fantastic. So now you've got hoppers. Yeah. You've got the fall and rise of Reggie Dinkins. Reggie Dinkins. Where are you at with that? The easiest name in television. Where are you at with that now? I'm fine with it. No, no. Are you waiting to hear? Are you? We're waiting to hear. Episode six just came out last night and we're waiting to hear. Cool. But I hope. But yeah, the momentum feels. I love it. I don't want to jinx anything. Yeah, I love doing it. I want to work with those people again. It's really fun. Yeah. And are you making anything on your own? Yeah, doing all sorts of stuff. Stuff I'm on NCIS Origins. I'm always working. I'm on a bunch of cartoons. Yeah, yeah. It's fun. I'm a very lucky boy. Yeah, you are a lucky boy. Well, this is so great to meet you. Yeah. You made me laugh for such a long time. Even though we hung out for a very long time. That was really fun. It was a blast. Yeah. I've never gone to an after party. Oh, no way. Yeah, I wasn't cool enough. I was always like, I don't belong there. I don't belong over there. I felt the same way. That's why I was chain smoking. You were in B movie. That's all you knew. I got to work with Jerry. I was a chef boy R.D. in that unfrosted movie. Oh, that's right. Yes, you were very good at that. Crazy experience. That was really how was that? It was exactly like playing chef boy R.D. in a movie made by Jerry Sinefoy. It was like a mad lib, the entire experience. Yeah. Where if I can guess what that felt like, it was we're doing something totally silly, completely crazy, but with precision. 100 percent, which I love and I'm very used to that. Yeah. But Jerry often, I spoke Italian throughout the whole movie and I don't speak Italian. I would often be looking on Duolingo as they were saying rolling and I was like, hold on, hold on, hold on. And they would go action and I would just say vaguely. In it, I was translating my lines in real time on Duolingo or Jerry would be like trust. And I would be like, I need a second. And like as I was typing it into Duolingo and then I would just say it and crazy, but I only spoke Italian in the movie and every once in a while, Jerry would be like, you're doing great. And like I'm still not positive if he knows that I speak English or not. The Italian guy is really good. Yeah. He was like, this guy, where'd you find this guy? He's like, I don't like the real Shepardee. Like, but yeah. Oh, that's amazing. It was a crazy, that was a crazy experience. Yeah. Well, knowing where you're headed with with your kids and what's the craziness is up ahead and where you're working. If you just want to come here and hang out, you doesn't even have to be with the podcast. Thanks. We have bread, we have olive oil. We'll get rid of the cigarettes. I love everything here, except now I don't mind the cigarettes. I love everything. Oh, hi. This is the best. Yeah, the Provolone. It really is just great. Yeah. Yeah, we love it. I like it here. Yeah, I could live here. All right, good. Well, you're welcome back anytime. Thanks. Yeah. I might just not leave if you're okay with it. I didn't mean today. We got it, kids.