220: Adam Friedland Just Wants to Understand

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I don't think the next question is being asked, which is like, how many fucking migrants have been fucking shot in the head also like that's the question and the detention centers are that in a whole other i understand i don't want to go like uh you know white i mean that's you i'm from come town right like i'm from i'm from a problematic white guy podcast but it's just like do we not we have to ask the next question i mean because like i i grew up in the southwest and I grew up around a lot of Latinos and like, they're just people that want to make more money for their families. Yeah. And I think about the ICE guys and I think about like, what it must be like to have a job where there's a kid screaming, crying and you're like arresting their parents. I know. What is that job like? Like why, like getting that job and it's just like, we abolish ICE. They're going to reintegrate into society. We don't even know their faces. I'm Jon Favreau, and you just heard from this week's guest, Adam Friedland, comedian and host of The Adam Friedland Show. Some of you may know Adam. He was one of the co-hosts of a podcast called Comptown for many years. He now hosts the Adam Friedland Show, YouTube show, where he does long-form interviews with politicians, celebrities, entertainers, all kinds of different people. He's got some really big-name guests. He also had me on the show recently. And he is hilarious, as you might expect. But also, I think I wanted to have him on because his interviewing style, he really gets people to open up. and he's funny and he makes jokes, but he's also, he's like very respectful of his guests and he is good at sort of drawing people out, making them feel comfortable and then really trying to understand who they are and getting them to say things they don't say in the typical media tours that a lot of prominent people go on. So this was maybe one of the funniest conversations I've had on the show. We could have talked for another couple hours. It's hard to actually describe what we talked about. so I think you're just going to have to listen and trust me you're going to love it here's Adam Friedland thanks for doing this thank you thanks for having me I did your show you did my show completed the circle jerk dude yeah absolutely just the 69 the 69 of podcasts talk show whatever this is whatever this is it's a real talk show how would you describe the Adam Friedland show for people who it's the smartest the smartest It's important. It's an Algonquin roundtable. It's, oh my God. It's like a firing line. It's Foucault and Chomsky. It's basically that. Yeah. It's deep. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's basically, no, no. I do a long form interview show with celebrities and politicians. Just everyone. Yeah. We're scraping the bottom of the barrel. With me. Yeah. Before the interview. You're neither. Yeah, yeah. We had a fun time. We had a fun time. We had a great time. I haven't seen it. Riff says for the bros. Because I was like, why didn't you watch it? Because it's mad funny. It's like, I only have so much time to consume content and content with me, content with me in it. Bullshit. No, this is, I didn't send it to Obama. That's what you're saying right now. I thought the agreement was, you would send it directly to President Barack Obama. You know what? I'm going to do that. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Just say, I haven't watched this shit and maybe you might like it. I did get all, but like I got all, you know, a lot of messages from friends and like none of them were they thought it was really funny it was very funny they're like you did I think they were all surprised they're like you did okay like they thought you were gonna like you know I don't know just destroy me or something like that we had a kitchen table conversation we did have a kitchen table conversation someone said that they appreciated that Obama said that we did the Nalan there was a Nalan Palin reference which I forgot about there was two there was a callback you very yeah you that's what someone said I dapped you on the callback yeah well because You used it again with Scott Jennings. I can't stop thinking about it. He did not pick up on the Nail and Payland thing. I thought that Scott would talk more about that. We'll get to him. I want to talk about him later. He's having a right. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Before you did. What's his deal? He did Iraq or something? He did Iraq. Yeah. It was his idea? That was his idea. Oh my God. He gave Cheney the idea. Yeah. And Rumsfeld. Yeah. That's my boy, Scott. You did a comedy podcast before the show. Comtown. Comtown. And you once shit your pants on air? like right before right before would you say that's the moment you're best known for I hype it up and now I have to stop talking it's just like if you're saying it Obama's watching like what are you talking about everyone is talking about it if you google Adam Friedland shit or poop you're gonna get a lot of hits no I'm most known for being the most pivotal funniest one and just the linchpin no yeah I did a very immature podcast and then somehow I've... Just landed here. It really was not calculated. It was a series of events. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Accidents. Tell me about the names that lost out to Come Town. I don't know. Nick chose the worst name. Yeah. I mean, it was kind of smart because they couldn't write it in the newspaper. So you could kind of go under the radar. Yeah, but Saab was on Seth Meyers. He said it on TV. It's the Trump era. You could say anything. Yeah. yeah come town on television I was gonna say you got like you know get different spellings it's fine yeah yeah it's free speech you know people would be like it's come town cumed yeah he did that for Kimmel dude he did some free speech yeah I don't know it became very like a beloved I've actually listened to like a because I we never listened to it we thought it was bad but uh and then the people that liked it online they were annoying so we're like it has to be bad but I've only like listened to it in the last year and a half and it's it's the funniest thing ever. I mean, Nick, it's... It's hilarious. He's a genius. We were sitting there, like, upset. We were like, this sucks, and we suck. When can we stop doing this? Nick's like, can I get a job at Radio Shack again? When you... It was not fulfilling. So this is like, so you did Comedy for a while. You are now into sort of... You're like news and politics adjacent with some of your guests. But you lived in D.C. for a while. You went to GW. I went to GW. You were like a political person way back when. We were fellow residents of D.C. I was there when... Were you as charmed by the nation's capital? Your old man won. I was so charmed. I mean, when they just... The SoulCycles came. I mean, we did great things with it. Oh, you were there for SoulCycle? Yeah. I had left by that. Every time I go back, it's like it is just... It's ethnic cleansing. I mean, it's horrible. It's just a completely different city. I was actually there when they built the Target Columbia Heights. Oh, I remember that. I went to a punk show. Oh, I've been to that. Yeah. In a basement my freshman year of college before the Target. Uh-huh. And it was terrifying. On the Green Line, the Columbia Heights stop, I was like, I was like, I'm going to, this is scary. You're like, I've gone too far. Yeah. It was like, I don't know where the hell I am. So there were no streetlights or, you know, there was a tumbleweed. Now there's soul cycle everywhere. They've gentrified the shit out of that city. DC has changed. DC has changed. I think, what is it? Citizens United, probably? Do you think that did it? I do kind of think so. Yeah. It's just a flooding in of money, probably. So much money. Yeah, it has to be. It's a very small city in that like you, I mean, it's a small city population-wise, but also because everyone is political or so many people are in politics. In your world, not my world. I feel like it's more of a company town than almost any other city. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe San Francisco with tech. Some of the worst people on earth. That's what I'm saying. That's why eventually I was. And ugly. Don't get me started. Oh my gosh. The talent. You're like a DC 9, 9 and a half. I'm an 11 in DC. Yeah, and I happen to be a LA negative 3. Same. Yeah. It's tough out here. No, it's, I remember, yeah. Did you ever want to go in? Like legislative aides, like getting like, making like $23,000 a year and then saying that they have like someone's number in their BlackBerry and they're like, I'm important. And I'm like, you're a loser. First thing you ask someone when you meet someone in D.C., you're like, oh, what do you do? Who do you work for? Oh, shut up. Who do you work for? I work for the Iraq War. I have the CEO of the Iraq War's phone number. Isn't that cool? Blackwater. I'm like, you're still ugly. Did you ever want to go into politics? Yeah, I thought I liked politics a lot growing up. And then I moved there. Freshman year, you remember that you run for like your floor representative of your dorm? No, I didn't do that. There's like a guy, not you, but there's a guy campaigning. Like it's the third day of college. Yeah. And he's like shaking hands. You're like, this guy's a dildo. And then they all like got internships at like the Bush White House and stuff. Like those guys. And then Barack Obama ruined it. Was it D.C. and like the people in D.C. that turned you off from like going into politics? Or were you just like, this is not for me? Yeah, there's something about that. Just like it's pretty rare. I mean like I meet a lot of politicians now doing the talk shows. It's like it's pretty rare you meet like someone that's a real one. I feel like. Yeah. You know. I think Big Z. I got a sense that he was. Because I'm completely full of shit as a person. That's my advantage in doing the interviews I think. But I completely lack substance. I know exactly how I mask it and cover it up. I'm a closeted homosexual. I mean no. I mean like. I don't know why I said. Obama, I'm just kidding. Obama, I'm just kidding. You do a shitload of research, though. I do a lot of research. Like a scary amount of research. But I know when someone is trying to sound smart. Yeah. And I know when there's like no basis for it. But I don't even know if it's an advantage for me. I think people just know when someone's full of shit now. Yeah. And I think that that's going to have to be something that's considered in D.C. at a certain point. Even when Trump's lying, he's not full of shit. You know what I mean? Right. he's authentically lying people say that about Trump I know he's not telling the truth but he's not like he's lying for us or I believe him I believe his bullshit I know the lies aren't right but then on the other hand we're going to take Venezuela's oil we kind of always do but the honesty is like to some extent I've never heard someone be honest about it yeah it's not like I'm like what are you doing you're supposed to lie he could say something like we are helping them rebuild their oil infrastructure and then hopefully they will do some you know they'll do some business with us and everyone will benefit but instead he's just like no we're taking it we're stealing yeah we're taking it out of the ground we're gonna put it in barrels even though that's not even how people transport oil anymore and we're gonna ship the barrels right here I've never heard anyone I'm gonna sell it I'm gonna put the money in a Qatari bank and then that's it yeah yeah and put it in my shit coin put it in my shit coin that's so trashy it is a trashy way to it's so trashy do you see Eric Adams made like three million dollars off of stop anti-semitism coin he's another one he's another one who just does it he's learned from Trump that like who the fuck cares oh my like I'm leaving and I'm going I'm leaving office I'm heading to Turkey he already didn't give a fuck before he left yeah apparently he might come back into power I might go to Guantanamo for this but apparently he had eight phones on him at all times for different crime yeah you need one you don't want to He's got a bag of eight phones for crimes. You don't want to mix up your crimes. Yeah, it's the turkey line. It's the campaign fundraiser. He's awesome. Zoran is boring. He's following the rules. I offered him a hat from the show when he came in. No, he didn't want the hat? I can't take a gift over $10. No way. I'm like, just shut up. What a fucking stickler. Just go to Turkey, you pussy. Come on, man. No, no. He's, I actually. Did you like. That's my best friend. You live the dream of every bearded Brooklyn leftist by interviewing. I have low testosterone. I can't grow a beard. Interviewing Zoran Mamdani. Bearded Brooklyn leftist? Come on, dude. We're all right wing now in New York. Oh, that's true. That's true. That's the cool. Bearded Brooklyn Trump supporters. I don't know what they are. I don't even think they're even Trump. I think they're just like. It's like, you know, fuck it all kind of thing. I don't know. Zoran's a centrist. They're like Ceausescu or something. I don't know. They're like, yeah, I don't know. They're like, no, but with him, we both like soccer, right? We both like the same soccer team. And this player that used to play for Arsenal sent a video in. This guy, Hector Bellerin, and the president of the team, Real Betis in Spain, brought two jerseys for me and the mayor. That's sick. and he came by and he was like this is for you and Senor Adams he didn't know he didn't know that it was the new mayor that's really funny I hit him up about that and he's like this is my Turkish Airlines and I was like we're best friends we are best friends do not worry about the permits we have a friend in the city we're good you guys are good so the show started as a joke that you didn't know kind of to make fun of me right But then at some point, like, it got serious. Talk to me about the show's evolution. Like, when you were like, okay, you know what? I want to try it this. I want to do it this way. This is what I want to get out of this. Yeah, I don't know. I just found that I enjoyed it. And, like, at first I was, like, not that good at it. And interviewing is hard. Well, it's like I do stand-up. So it's, like, the only reference to, like, talking to someone is, like, crowd work. So I'm, like, someone comes to that. I'm, like, what do you do for a living? and then they're like, I'm an elementary school teacher. You a pedophile Everyone laughs It really fun It huge on TikTok But like it not like an interview right Right So I had to kind of like figure out like how to access like what talking to a person was like just as a person And then… To figure out what socializing was like. Yeah. And then, I don't know. It's just I kind of try to do something that's a little bit… There's enough podcasts, right? So, like, there's, like, you don't want to do just another thing. so you just want to do something that's a little bit unique. And so I try to make it distinct from all the other shows that you see online. And I don't book like other comics. Like there's like a revolving door of other comics on like Rogan and Theo and stuff like that. Yeah. And I'm like, well, this is going to be something distinct and that's like produced and heavily edited or researched. And I was like, I'll try. I'm 35. I may as well try. You're trying. It's scary. The set's based on the Dick Cavett show. I didn't know much about the Dick Cavett show Have you watched? Yes So after doing your show I started digging into some old clips It's amazing How much were you intentionally trying to echo It was a joke They were making me into a public intellectual But then accidentally it kind of was real too Because I experienced your show Before knowing anything about Dick Cavett Then when I went back to Dick Cavett I was like oh this is what Adam's show is becoming The host isn't funny and the conversations kind of maybe could be interesting sometimes. No, I mean, like, he talked to people in a way, like people that were famous in a way where you saw them kind of in a more genuine light and, like, for who they really are. Yeah. And that's kind of something that you can kind of extract through doing a long-form interview. And it's really smart for me to do long-form content in an era where people just love. Just scrolling right past it. They just love it. Gotta hook them. They love things that are over 30 seconds. Yeah. I sit and watch the whole thing. I watched the, have you seen the Lester Maddox, Jim Brown? Oh my God. It's legendary. Holy shit. He smacks his ass up. It's also a tough job for Cabot there to like moderate this. For people who don't know, Lester Maddox is like this, the racist governor of Georgia, 1970, Jim Brown, NFL Jim Brown, also a civil rights activist. Retired to be a civil rights activist and an actor. Yeah. And then they just go at it about, The thing that struck me about that was watching it again is I'm like, Lester Maddox in that interview is making arguments about race and civil rights that you still hear in different forms from the right today. It's like, I'm not for forced segregation. I'm just also not for forced integration. I'm in the middle. It's kind of back. And you're like, wait, what? But, you know, correct me if you're a little bit older than me, But like in the scope of our lifetimes, that's never been a thing. It kind of feels like it's a thing now. It is a thing now. It feels like new. It is new. I know it's throwback, but for us, it's like I never saw this. Correct. Which is why I'm like, oh, this is how it used to happen back then. Oh, yeah. Back in the olden days when it was racist. When it was 70, too, right? So the Civil Rights Act had passed. I mean, it was right after King is assassinated, right? Is it going to be old-fashioned and be like, racism is wrong? It's the worst thing. You're going to be like, what was that? When they were all like... I still think it's terrible. How did they let Barack Obama be president? Instead of going back and being like, how did we have Trump? People are going to be like, how did we get Obama? That was crazy. The catastrophe. What a national catastrophe. Did you think about getting Dick Cavett on the show? He's like apparently 99 or something. Still kicking. He's out in Montauk or something. I don't know. You should get him on. Do you have his number? you know you can you have a real company here we have a real company can you give me Barack Obama I was going to say we have to get to Cavett's number from Barack Obama he definitely knows him they see each other at Bohemian Grove or wherever they go Martha's Vineyard Martha's Vineyard that's what it's called Bohemian Grove I forgot the name it was a nice sounding name Offline is brought to you by Ridge. 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Was he before he had the show? I thought he was after he was mayor again. No, no, no. This is one of my heroes. He was the mayor of Cincinnati. They thought he was going to be the first Jewish president. In fact, he was beloved. And then he paid for a prostitute in Kentucky with a check. And then he got caught. And then he was so beloved that in a writing, uh writing campaign uh he was re-elected okay because he was so awesome what year was that it's my hero uh what year was that in the 70s okay so then i think people were like that's the jewish kennedy and then he became a newscaster and then at the end of a news broadcast he was like on nbc or cbs or something and he'd do jerry's final thought and then he started a a very phil donahue style right that boring talk show and then the chairs and then we're like we got to go nasty and then they beat oprah in the ratings you know the chairs were the best great doc to be done of like jerry springer i think i'm reciting to you a documentary it is a very like trumpy it's like a preview it's a foreshadowing of like i remember it being when i get sick from school like i hope i was hoping sick from school price is right price is right springer yeah yeah yeah and i'd be like so great when i had plinko i always I was always hoping for Plinko. Plinko, yeah, yeah. Bob was just like, sometimes you could see on his face, he'd be like, this idiot. How does he think of Jessica's $40,000? Should have gone with the $1. Yeah, but no, like Springer was like a treat when you were home sick from school. You could see people fighting, having affairs. You want to be like a Jerry Springer. No, but I think it was an awesome show. What's your prep process like? It depends. I mean, really, it's uh there's like you do like research like you have a packet of research but then you kind of have to take into account like what a normal person knows about the person yeah and then you build it back from there like i lean a con on and like a normal person doesn't know what the fucking ftc is or something you know right or like who she is but they do know that things are expensive and they know that companies kind of fucking them over a lot and then they do know that people are getting fired in the government. So if you build it from there, then you could be like, oh, this is an example of a civil servant and the benefits of a robust civil service. So there's a story. And then this is someone that's trying to fucking stop things from being so expensive when they're trying to break the rules. And someone also that just walked into a department where it wasn't necessarily since the 80s that robust. And then she was like, we have to start working now. Yeah. we have to stop playing beer pong and I asked her I was like were people like photocopying their butts were people like it was a Hawaiian shirt day every day but yeah the crazy thing about her I mean is that I still think about it to this day but I don't think I've ever met a good person in my life like I remember I asked her when the last time she lied was and she was like maybe like elementary school but like she wasn't lying she's like a rare we're all liars she's just like what she cares about is what she does that is her life and she's passionate about it and she wants to do it right and she's just like but she doesn't even conceive of like when I was like you know did you ever clap back because remember there was like an editorial there was like an op-ed every day about that FTC chairwoman and everyone was like what the fuck does that even mean yeah right and I was like they hated you and I was like did you ever like clap back and she was like she looked at you she was like I don't know what is that going to do I have to win the lawsuit and it's not even like I'll see you on the field it's just more like my job is I have to do good at the lawsuit I know it's just like everyone is a liar I mean I no we all think we're terrible people and then we're like if everyone around us finds out I'm done for right yeah and I think she's the only person on earth you think she's the only one that I've ever met that's like it's shocking in fact you get some like legal types who end up being like government official. Like that made me think of like Jerome Powell, right? Who, and every Fed chair is like this. They're very like, because they're careful about the markets and anything they say could, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Plunge us into recession. And him coming out then and being like, oh yeah, Donald Trump just tried to fuck me because he's like trying to investigate me. It was like so notable because I'm like, that fucking guy is supposed to just get up and just read his numbers and just deflect questions. But like, the fact that he has to go out there and be like, yeah, this is, I'm getting, like that's a, that's when you know we're in a pretty crazy fucking time. Yeah, that's when I found out Trump was being wacko. Before that, it was like, before that I was like, this guy's cruising. Yeah, I think it is, she knows, like just like he knows like a sentence in a speech, like Greenspan could like change the economy. Yeah. Like, right? Powell knows that. She also knows like, she could lose a case. I'm like, I'd try to get her to talk shit. And she's like, no, that's against the rules to say that. Yeah. I was like, what do you know, all the rules? The rules don't matter anymore. We all have shit coins from Qatar. Yeah. It's not fair. Like I watched the, I don't know if it's Nick Shirley, but one of those guys, the new Project Veritas kind of guys. Yeah. He went to, after Minneapolis, one of these guys, he went to this ultra Orthodox town in upstate New York called Kiryas Joel. Uh-huh. And it's just all chasids, right? And they're just doing welfare scams, right? And it was right after the Minneapolis video. Oh, I missed this one. And I watched it. I was like, well, if it's, it's, it shouldn't, it's, I was like, good for them. Honestly. Why can't they, I mean, what? Qatar's buying a shit coin for his crappy family. Yeah. Right? Like, why can't these guys just take over the school board? Just, why? It's not. He's also pardoning all the people who, did fraud. There's a lot more fraud. Nikki is so trying to... It's a part. Like her husband, right? Who? Nikki... Minaj. Oh, I think it meant Nick Shirley. Now we're talking about Nikki Minaj. Oh, Nikki Minaj. The part in the system is you have to suck up and then you get to do whatever you want. Yes. Did you see Sam Benfrey last night? I can't stop looking at it. He was tweeting that he's become a Republican. And Donald Trump is actually great. Good for him. Which was very funny because I, me too. Like, prosecutors, when they were trying him, were like, oh, here's a memo where he said that if he ever got caught, some advice he got was like, one cool thing would be to become a Republican because then, like, Donald Trump might pardon you. And now he's, like, doing it. Fine. And he's probably gonna get the party. What, is he an idiot? He's not supposed to become a Republican? Good for, I mean, like, I mean, it's like, why wouldn't you do that? He's supposed to be in jail? It's probably gonna work. Also, his thing did work. Did you see that? No. Like, the bet he made did work, but it was once he was in jail. Poor guy. We love him. We love him. Yeah, he'll be on soon. I feel like every comedian... Caught that. I think it did. I don't really know anything, but I think it did. Look it up, nerds. Every comedian who has a show where politics is discussed inevitably gets asked, like, there's some larger political goal they're trying to achieve, and the answer is almost like, I'm just a comedian. I'm just trying to entertain people make them laugh is that your answer too? I try to be careful about it I don't want to speak from a position of authority that I don't qualify to have I could do the homework five minutes before Lina Khan comes in and be like this is what antitrust law is and I read it five minutes before but instead I have my own opinions obviously when I had Richie Torres on I felt like I could speak to the situation in Israel you know like because i've like you know i studied middle eastern politics in college i lived in israel i'm jewish like uh i felt like comfortable enough to do it but then when i see like comedians spouting off about fucking like public health statistics and like disease transmission i'm like i don't know we talk about our penises on i mean like there's nothing that qualifies us for that and like but you can really say anything you want on the internet so it's it's a matter of like I could say anything, so I have to hold myself to a standard. I'm not going to go to jail if I'm like, Adam Freeland is the smartest man. But is there any part of, since you're interviewing a bunch of political people now, is there any part of you that's thinking, okay, you have political opinions, you have political values, you clearly think the environment right now is very fucked up as it is. When you have political people on, is there any part of you who's like, I want the audience to walk away thinking, you know maybe changing their minds maybe uh no it makes it fun right like if not going to like spout off about like some house resolution 3722 you know whatever Like I can ask questions that they're not familiar with. Right. So I can just ask like a basic question about like, I do feel comfortable saying like, oh, yeah, well, no one likes the government. Like why do you want to be in the government? Right. In a generic sense, that's a larger question that they kind of don't grapple with very often. Yeah. You know, especially Democrats because they're just like not used to like this kind of format. No. You know. No, they had a lot of time. The Richie Torres thing is interesting because I had heard about it because it was, you know, you made some news. But then watching it, like, and you're like this with a lot of guests, even guests that you don't agree with or, you know, like, you're very nice and respectful to these guests. Like, I thought you worked to him too. Like, the idea that he walked off and was like, that was unfair. and you were understanding, you were disagreeing with them, but you were almost, you were hurt, I think. The story is, you have to find like what's interesting. The story there is that this person comes from extreme poverty and like represents the poorest district in Congress and is gay and like try to kill himself and then made it all the way to Congress. I mean, that's like a, should be on its face, an inspirational story. And then you see like, well, why the hell are you, like you tweet about Israel like 80% of the time. yeah you know and it's just like how do you get there right right so that's like as a as a story like you tell you tell his background you tell where he comes from and then you try to understand instead of me being like you shill you know like right you're trying to get them you're trying to actually understand the thing that you don't understand about them well yeah i mean i really don't want to have an argument you know i i want to have like a kind of a conversation that reflects something like culturally oh god when i talk this way like culturally relevant i don't know and the story of our generation the story there is is like why this guy who comes from such meager beginnings and has accomplished so much and overcome so much like why he lands here that's the interesting story do you feel like you got an answer on that from him no i think that his assumption was that i was uh trying to trap him or something yeah but in reality it's just like i'm a jewish person i'm trying to i'm trying to like express to him like i was like you know you're speaking for the experience of jewish people i have a different experience and uh and then he was telling me that that was anti-semitic of me and it was just like but like beyond that it's like i wasn't trying to put him in that position i was really just trying to understand like how does it work when someone like ostensibly he was very like idealistic and like driven and you know had a tough time in life and like went into politics and really went for it how does it work where they like end up there because that's yeah that's a good story to investigate right and uh the internet is all fucking people yelling at each other all the time and it's like uh for zero dollars can you imagine like these guys for zero all of them you're not even paying these guys no right yeah no not at all no like people are we paper tweet people are yelling at like the fucking the secretary of fucking agriculture all day long for zero dollars just yelling at them. They're not seeing it. These days, some of them are seeing it. Yeah. The internet like bums people out. I only yell at people online that I know they're going to see it. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you're in the game, baby. I'm in the game. And you're making money. It's your job. Yeah. Not from the posting. Exactly. But not directly from the posting. If it were not my job, I would be a ghost. I would, you know, like, I wouldn't be, it's insane to be, yeah, I don't know, on the internet with an avatar, just like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, I'm the press secretary for Adam. Like, just shut up. No, I mean, but like, I have to do it because I'm online. But like, independent of that, like, the attempt to make something that makes people feel all right. Yeah. Is, I feel like noble, perhaps. I don't know. I hope it does. It is very anti, I mean, even though it's like a YouTube show, it's very anti-internet. This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. 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I'll respond to the question. do you think that seeing two people getting shot in the head yeah in the last week we're like desensitized because like every time you go on twitter you just see someone getting shot in the head it's oh it's another getting shot in the head video yeah you know that adam curtis documentary hyper normalization no so he like shows this montage of like uh movies where you see like buildings exploding and stuff like that yeah that that preceded 9-11 and it the kind of the concept that kind of numbed us to the terror. And like, yeah, it did look like Independence Day, 9-11. A little bit, you know? Yeah. And yeah, we just see people getting shot in the head. Like, I really think the Minnesota video is like, yes, there's been a response that's like, this is insane. But like, perhaps it's even more insane than it's dawning on people. Because it's... It is because we see... We see it all the time. My wife said this to me because she is... She said, I want to shoot you the head. She did. Yeah. Maybe. Because she was in politics. And then now she's not as much. So she tries not to be online as much. But after Minnesota was like scrolling and looking. And she's like, we're not meant to see like this video all the time. And then you don't just see the video and have everyone be like, that is such a tragedy. How awful. You see the video over and over again. And then you see this fight online with people who are like, that didn't really happen. Or they deserved it. They had it coming. And you're just. that really gets you. The fight that comes after that is just, that's the insane part where it's just like, the guy didn't get hit by the car. He didn't get hit by the car. He didn't get hit by the car. We also, he didn't get hit by the car. You feel crazy. Yeah, he's doing like a slip and fall and the ice guy has a neck brace now. And he's like, I was terrified. Like we saw a lady get shot in the head three times. Just the gun was like right there. And then they're like, well, you know, she was mouthing off. I mean, like they're lying to our faces really. but like the people that are going along with it that's the really crazy part that's why I can't tell though if they're going along with it like if they in their heart of hearts believe this and have been radicalized by all the bullshit they're seeing online or if they're just like I gotta be on the team and I gotta just say it anyway even if I don't necessarily believe it it's like I can't figure it out I guess different for different people I'm sure I know someone that works in the music industry right and like they the labels have like recognized that like stand culture is like a thing. Fuck the music. But like, but yeah, they, basically what they do is now they, they artificially create their bots and then human beings see them and then they join. So they, they mimic like Stan like communities and then it becomes a real thing. Yes. And, you know, what is the percentage of like, accounts on Twitter that are bots at this point? I don't know. Elon's been working really hard to, to cut him down but probably a lot who's doing the the holocaust didn't happen stuff who's doing it yeah is it Nick Nick Nick Fontes yeah oh I thought Mullen I thought it oh him there's like a whole gang that he's got now I mean there's just sneaky I don't know there's all these no but those are real guys I'm saying clavicular but I feel like there's just so many like Anne Frank wrote that in ballpoint pen that couldn't have been yeah there's a lot of that too I feel like there's but it's hard to tell now between the bots and the real people yeah exactly my understanding is that it was just a ton and then it becomes that scary to me and then beyond that i think that we were heading in this direction obviously and then we had to stay home for two years and we went on the phone everyone out i think everyone has ptsd from we don't have a pandemic era and like we're like we have collective ptsd and like no one wants to deal with it no one wants to talk about it well we're all just like we're gonna go on and be fucking nuts the whole country it's a conversation that has to happen because like a whenever that topic comes up it's either it's Fauci, the vaccine. That's the only part that's discussed. And like, yes, if I had to sit with my parents for two years, that would suck. Suck. It was so fun to see my friends in school. Yeah. You know? And the only way we discuss kids in popular discourse is like their genitals. Seriously, it's perverse. And like, we're like, these kids just like, didn't get to see their friends for two years. I know. And now that I have kids who are, my kids are five and two, all the time I'm like, if they had to be in this house with me and Emily for two years doing homeschool or like doing Zoom school, I would have fucking lost it. Yeah. I would have like, I don't know what I would have done. Beyond that, beyond that, like. Of course the parents are all crazy. People died of COVID. Yeah. I mean, like, I know far more people in this anecdotal that I know people that have committed suicide. I know people that have overdosed on drugs, people that have relapsed on drugs and alcohol. Like, while they were in lockdown, they were in recovery. And, like, that is not discussed. I mean, like— I know. And, yeah, beyond that, people just went on their phones. And then now they're fucking, I don't know, like, psyched. What are your, like, social media habits? And I imagine they're, like, you're not on all the time. My Reels algorithm is awesome. That's your thing. You do Reels. My Instagram Reels is just— No TikTok, just reels. I don't know TikTok. I pay a kid for that. But like, yeah. No, but my reels are just funny. The internet used to be funny. It used to be really funny. It used to be a place you'd go online. 2010 was a great time for the internet. You just laugh. You see a lady trying to stomp grapes and she fucking eats shit. Also then like something happens in the world. Unforgivable. And then everyone gets on and they have jokes about the thing that just happened. And they're inappropriate and it's fun and whatever. And now it's just like, yeah. yeah like what's how what's your media diet like how are you getting the news i'm working and thank god i just have too much work to do on the show so you're getting news just based on like if you have a guest you're like okay i gotta be up on the news i'm researching for the next guest yeah just like we're getting new york times updates or going scrolling the front page of the of the times app and then reading articles but like independent of that like i calls i told you my sister called me she was like the fucking east wing of the white i'm mad and i'm like what the what were you a fan i was like i didn't even know it could be a thing that you could be mad about and she's like i'm like it's trump he's gonna build some crap he's gonna build some gold crap that's what obviously he's going to like the ballroom there's concentration camps in america right now there are concentration camps people are mad at a bud that they can't have a waltz in the I was thinking this yesterday because I'm like, you know, like, so they're not going to have real investigations into the fact that the government federal agents just murdered two American citizens. And they're just going to sweep these under the arms. And I was like, OK, people spent three or four months being like, release the Epstein files, which is, of course, yeah, they should. And they're releasing them. But I'm like, if people get upset about that, then we should definitely try to get upset about the fact that they're just covering up a couple murders now. yeah i mean like what what is it it fucks me up dude we talked about on the show when you were on it but like we recorded that december before the shit really hit the fan right before we planned the murders how have you been feeling since the minneapolis stuff has gone down have you been processing it i don't think the next question is being asked which is like how many fucking migrants have been fucking shot in the head also like that's the question and the detention centers or it's like a whole other. I understand. I don't want to go like, you know, white privilege. I mean, I'm from Cumbentown, right? Like I'm from a problematic white guy podcast. But it's just like, do we not? We have to ask the next question. I mean, because like I grew up in the Southwest and I grew up around a lot of Latinos and like they're just people that want to make more money for their families. Yeah. And I think about the ICE guys. I think about like what it must be like to have a job where there's a kid screaming, crying, and you're like arresting their parents. I know. What is that job like? Like why? Like getting that job. And it's just like we abolishize. They're going to reintegrate into society. We don't even know their faces. There's something about like, I don't know. It is growing up around a lot of Latinos in Las Vegas. And I was born in L.A. And like, there's something about them where it's just like, they're not doing daycare scams. They are just working as hard as they can. And I know it's like, they say it was Biden's fault. That's why we have to throw them in the cage. It's a kid crying. And like, on a basic level, like, we talked about this when you were on the show. Like, does someone watch that? Are they like, this is great? Yeah. Does someone like, does, does. There are, unfortunately, there's like maybe a third of, I don't know. Do you think watching the image of the kids screaming and like the guy like just getting thrown, like, and the guy in the mask. I mean, it's scary. Even just like the optics of it. This is what I, this is what I don't understand. Jesse Waters is watching that. He's like, this is awesome. There's one segment I think that thinks this is awesome. There's another that thinks, oh, this is just, this is what happens because Biden let all those people in. So this is what has to happen. And it's Biden's fault that this happened. It doesn't make any sense. It doesn't make any sense. Then there's the people who just lie to themselves and tell them. I was really upset about that whole story. I mean, I'm upset about 20 stories a day. But the one about the five-year-old child, Liam, in Minneapolis, who's like, you could sit in. And like, partly just because I heard every detail of the story, right? There's a million other stories like that, I'm sure. But he's like, he's five years old. Like, my kid's five years old. He's in his class. His friends miss him. He's in Minneapolis. And they take him. They grab him. they now he's in a detention center in texas he's sick and the argument that you get from all the fucking maggot people and these aren't just like random they're just like bots on twitter right these are like the the maggot influencers they're like well the father abandoned him in the snow and the vice president made this argument he like what were we supposed to do that was the ice agents just supposed to leave him to freeze in the snow of course they had to take him Yes that what people are saying They should have left him in the snow And the mother didn want him I was like oh yeah the mother didn want him The mother who couldn't come outside because she thought she was going to get kidnapped as well. So now you moved him to Texas? For what? And they're like, well, the ICE agents are playing his favorite music. And he's going to be well cared for in this detention facility. Like, these are the things they say to justify it. And so they're like, you libs. You libs are freaking out because you think this poor five-year-old is like, we took him from his family. But actually, it's just a normal operation and the mom didn't want him and the dad didn't want him. So thank God for the ICE agents. Like this is the story that they tell. Whether they like it or not, there are people that live around us that do crap, that make things work in our society. And we don't, we think of them as furniture. Yeah. And when you put it in that context of like, these are the people we're doing it to. right these are people like that have zero power yeah in society and it isn't mass deportation it's this trump is getting pissed at a new city and then just at random like doing this there's no like you could just see like i don't see like he's not hitting ag is he no no i don't think no he said he wouldn't you know like they're not going to red states they had a crazy operation in maine that was doing with similar shit to minneapolis and then susan collins because she's up for election and they need her to keep the senate like said something to christy noem and then yesterday they're like all right operation over in maine it's like oh i thought it was a serious i guess you could just end it whenever you want i guess it's not that important to do it really just fucks with me it does fucks with me too because it's like i we watch these two people get shot but like the next question has to be like how many fucking people have been shot shot we don't know we don't or just like just shot sent away sent to third countries disappeared tortured in a prison abused in a prison uh these detention centers many of them legal most of them non-violent most of them like that's the other thing is they want they're telling the story of like people running across the border illegally and just laying around and like getting all this you know public benefits they don't like most of the people now that they're grabbing are people who came here are waiting for an asylum hearing. Even if you said, okay, I want to deny your asylum claim, you could do it in a way where you're like, your claim is denied, let's take your family and we're going to bring you here and you have to leave. It's still terrible, whatever. But you certainly don't need to be grabbing a kid, grabbing a mother, separating them, throwing them in a detention center, having them just sit there and rot in these fucking terrible conditions for a year and then deny their asylum claim. I mean, it's just- Law enforcement is supposed to keep us safe, right? Right, right, right. Like, how does this keep us safe? It does not. It does not. It doesn't keep us safe whatsoever. It's just unflinching cruelty. Evil. I mean, it's just evil. I know what else to call it. And it only now seems to resonate. I'm glad it does. But, like, it didn't dawn on me, like, for a while. And then I kind of, I spoke to one of the episodes we did, which is now, we did it months ago. Shit. Fuck. a congressman was describing to me what the Florida detention facility is and yeah it just didn't dawn on me like I understood an abstract and that was kind of the moment the penny dropped and I'm like I said to you last time we talked but like when you learn about how this shit's happened before like I'm Jewish like you know it's not as if the entire country of Germany decided overnight to be anti-Semitic right? yeah that's not how it works like what it happens is is they'd see people get taken they see their businesses closed and they go to the office the next day you know and like and then if i look in the mirror i'm like yeah i went to the fucking office the next day you know my life wasn't really disrupted right maybe if a fucking thing of blueberries is nine dollars you know i mean but like i yeah people just like went to the office the next day that when they had the dundies and And like, you know, like if German, whatever they were doing in Germany with Dwight. They were always having the Dundies. Yeah. They had a guy named Dwight Shrew for sure. Yeah. Yeah. In the German. But like, there's a lot of paper, but it wasn't like they were sent to the East. You know, they were. This is what I can't figure out though. It's like, you mentioned those ICE agents and like, how do they go home? And you wonder how to have a country with people who have those jobs and do that. And like, is there humanity in those people that you are trying to reach and be like, hey, come back, come back to the light, you know, or because like, what's your other option to just like jail them all, kick them out of the country too? Like, I just, I don't know. You have to ask a bigger question, I guess. Like, how does it happen? Right. It's probably because of the phone. Has to be. Well, I thought that too. Some of these people who think that Renee Good or Alex Pretty deserved it or that it's great that we're putting them in these detention centers. If it was someone on your street, in your neighborhood, even if you know them well, who they either shot in the head or it was someone who was cleaning your house that you knew that you saw all the time and someone just grabbed them and took them away from their children. Even if you're a right winger, you'd probably look at that, right? And be like, that's fucked up. Yeah. I hope. Maybe not. Maybe you're like, that's great. I want to think that human beings, yes. I mean, I want to think that people are good. And that if Jesse Waters saw it happening, he'd be like, fuck. You know? But then I think about these guys that are actually doing it. I know. And then I'm like, it goes a step beyond. What compels a person? It's dark. I mean, I just have that image of just a family being separated. For a job? start a racist podcast. What are you doing? No. How cool are the Democrats? They're going to fix things, right? What have you been impressed with that you've had on? Jon Favreau. Of course. That was my leading question. Alec Baldwin. I think Chris Murphy was good. Yeah. I thought Murphy was great. I think Mom Donnie did. I do think we can sniff bullshit on people. I think it's condescending that people are going to fall for crap. And I think that they can tell like, I mean, some of the worst people I know from growing up, some dogs I grew up with who were like, this is a radical Islamic terror, you know, like who are going hair on fire. Mom Donnie. And first of all, they didn't live in New York. That's what the news was telling them. The news was telling them that he was going to do the Sharia law. Suddenly New York, it would be illegal to be Jewish. It is funny. In New York. I notice a lot of like right-wing people now being like, I'm glad that Mamdani has moderated as mayor and as Morse. And I'm like, has he? Or did you just buy into a fucking caricature that the news told you about? And the Democratic Party. Yeah, right. And Cuomo. But beyond that, those guys, like I got texts from those guys afterwards. And they're like, wow, I still disagree with his politics. he seems pretty fucking chill actually and i was like for the sake of the city it's like uh people needed to calm down and that that made me feel like good about like people responding that way but the show's cool and i really enjoy doing it but like um i'm very careful about like where i see myself interacting with this kind of stuff yeah in what way i don't want to overset my bounds i don't want to be irresponsible and i don't want to start loving the smell of my own farts you know and it's very easy if you're like gaining an audience and people are celebrating you yeah you should have all the 2028 candidates potential candidates on we got we got one coming on next one because i feel like who's that oh oh oh yeah yeah yeah right that'll be fun welcome to your funeral again for me that's a good test if they can hang with you for an hour on your show well now Democrats just say the F word that's their thing and Trump fuck you Chuck Schumer Chuck Schumer's like tweeting fuck fuck to you fuck to you Donald no the depressing thing for me was like when he's like he wants to reform like when he said body cameras I was like do you realize there was 1,000 cameras around when we saw someone getting shot in the head. What is one more camera going to do? Yeah. And we got the body cameras. We're fine now. We shut down the government and we got one, we got a, some of them don't work and they do also have the controls to turn it on and off. They also have the ability to turn it off whenever they want. We're going to figure out the manual. I haven't read it. That's what's going to happen. They're going to shut down the government and they're going to get body cameras. This is what they want to tell, like this is my problem with so democrat but they've also they've also become so afraid of people criticizing them for not being tough enough or fighting hard enough or whatever that they are unwilling to just be honest about like the real limitations like here's the thing they could shut down dhs for like the rest of the year and it wouldn't do anything to ice and ice's operations because they have all this fucking money from the the bill from last year so they can still do it. Gorgeous. Which is like, one thing you might want to say if you're going to shut down the government is like, hey, we'll do this and the body cams are like fucking great. We got them but we're not going to celebrate over that but we can get a few tiny things. We're never going to defund ICE until there's a Democrat elected president. They say over, over, over again, abolish ICE, abolish ICE. That's the only option. Right. They have to say, we have to end this program. But even now, there's like, you've got to say abolish ICE, you've got to say abolish ICE. I'm like, here's the thing, the first opportunity you're ever going to get to abolish ICE is January 2029 there's zero chance of it happening before that fine, they're pro ICE politically that's how you make yourself distinct we're going to get a GoPro shut up you idiot we're going to get a fuck pro fuck pro we're investing in fuck pros for all of that they're going to do POV Oh, no, sorry. We always talk about nasty stuff. We do. Are you really going to do Abby Phillips' argument show? Are you supposed to be on that? If you let me on. I saw you say that. If Scott wants to put the nail in the coffin. Can we do prep for that? Yeah, I don't know what the topics are. Is it good to kill everyone? Yeah, it's probably that. It's like news of the day. They're just going to come right at you. Oh, my God. I'm just going to sit there and be like, this is ridiculous, guys. I'm going to do John. You got it. Cut this. I'm going to do the John Stewart. I actually sweater you gotta go sweater I'm gonna go cut all of this I'm gonna go sweater steward sweater steward yeah millennial sweater steward Scott's gonna be peeing his pants like Paul Begala Paul Begala do you remember what he looked like you were very Scott drives me insane you were very you were very respectful and nice to Scott well I was just like you did the thing at the end about the you just said like what are you talking about the porn in libraries the porn in the kids libraries that's all you have to do is just ask them what they're talking about and he was like no there's there's some porn in the kids libraries and you're like what give me one example of porn i was just like what are you well yeah i'm like okay it's bad if they do that so what are you talking about and they're like look it up you can look it up yeah their whole thing is that their girlfriend goes to canada and if you ask that like it's just like the democrats take the bait every time because the democrats have to be like their normal response will be like we celebrate the porn. We celebrate the beautiful porn. We want our children to be able to like it. And they're like, fuck, oh shit. We did it, fuck, Scott, again. Oh, I fell for it again. The gorgeous, the beautiful porn. Porn for all. Well, it's just like, they're like, it's good. But the opposite is not, it's good. It's like, that sounds not real. I bring up this example a lot, it's like, the little mermaid is black. They're mad about it. And then instead of being like, for all the black little mermaids out there, this is a moment. Instead of just being like, hey, it's a baby movie and you sound like a fucking pussy right now. You're sounding like a pussy. You're upset about a baby movie? You're in the government and you're sad. You're fucking pathetic. Oh, you ruined my childhood? Shut up. You're an adult. You sound like a pussy. you just have to like actually be mean to them back in fact instead of being like this is the Wakanda of mermaids it's just like shut up who cares it's a baby movie it doesn't matter if the little mermaid is black you're taking a knee and a kente cloth I can't stand this why do I know this and Chuck is like Chuck is like the fucking black mermaids we fucking we're gonna get gopros on this they're gonna fuck this oh god anyway anyway well that's like a Louis black right now I'm ranting come back hot next anytime fun dude let me know let me know how I feel like I feel like we we we do uh we do good we should we should take this on the road yeah dude fucking yeah all right where do you want to go I don't know the grand old opry yes I want to go to the Grand Ole Opry. I'll see you there. Two quick notes. Crooked Media Reads, newest book, Hated by All the Right People, Tucker Carlson and the Unraveling of the Conservative Mind is out now. 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