Top 5 Scientists

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Go listen to Morning Cup of Murder wherever you get your podcasts, and remember, stay safe. Man, this one, this one's a tough- this was a tough list. This is a fun one, though. This is so tough that literally as I sit here, I'm organizing my cutting room floor, and I'm not sold on. I'm coming back on the cutting room floor, I'm like, oh, how did I not have this? And then I look back on my list, I'm like, that's why. You organized your cutting room floor, huh? Now you do it sometimes, but... Sometimes, sometimes. Yeah. Today's the day. I can't do that. No? Because you're right. Analog. Analog. We had a lengthy conversation about organization on the mailbag, so... We did. Now, Zach, can I offer you an analog solution to organizing your analog notes? Highlighters. Highlight certain things? Do I have highlighters? As Mo said to me, that's not how I do it, Maze. Don't give me suggestions for how to do my list. Might be the least organized person I know. Oh, no way. You know me. Well, that's true. Yeah. You know me. Not on the main edition. Jay-Z AdLive on an umbrella right there. Tough thing for the highlighter suggestion, which is a good suggestion. I just have one highlighter. Just highlighted all then. Good idea. Yep. Not all organized it. Just highlighted number one. Oh, this thing's not working. Oh, dry shit. Damn. Analog. Analog problems, you know? You gotta just work it a little, you know? What? Wet. Wet? Just wet the tip a little bit. Wet the tip a little bit? Yeah, and I get to work it. Of the highlighter? I mean, definitely spent a lot of time sniffing all of his markers in elementary school. I've never been a sniffer. Sniffer? Sniffer? I'm a very, very, oh, yeah, the old go hard R there. Sniffer. I'm a very- My daughter's dating. Wow. My daughter's dating one of those sniffers. I've got a very sensitive nose. So I've never, I say all the time, this is why I'll never get hooked on Coke. I always wonder. That's why. I don't know. I don't know if. You won't get hooked on it. You won't get hooked on it. You won't get hooked right into your dick, right? Hold on. For real? I don't like needles either, though. That's the problem. Also, Zach. You don't like needles. What is that not liking needles thing? I don't understand that. No, I get, I don't like looking at needles. You're too tall for needles. Oh, that's not fair. I get like, you know, when you go to the doctor, I get like, I don't like looking at them. Doesn't bother me in the slightest. But if I look away, it's fine. Oh, Zach, it's not a tough thing. There's things I don't like looking at. I don't like looking at. It doesn't make me need to vomit or want to vomit. I don't like looking at like someone vomiting. Like in a TV show where they do the, I'm like, I'm good. Like we don't just give me the sound of it and I'm, I don't need to see it. The sound is a little bit necessary. I think it's a necessary thing. It doesn't bother me. The sound doesn't bother me. Seeing it. I'm not like, I don't get sick. I'm just like, this is an unnecessary detail. Someone does it in the same room as me. I probably will gag. I might not throw up, but I'm. I mean, did it first. That wasn't me. I didn't react to something I reacted. You're a follower. You know me. I'm a big time follower. It's a weird yes and. It wasn't a no, but also Zach, we've never had more proof of the my daughter is dating one of those than the juju interaction. Oh my God. Did you have you see that clip? I sent it to the Rudy for bear chat. You haven't seen that clip? I'm a nice one. Run the clip right here. It's which one? What did I miss? So they sent it to Rudy for bear and it's this elderly white gentleman. Yeah. So it's on levitar. Oh, I didn't watch that. I didn't watch that. Yeah. I missed the guess they had was a guy who's like a psychologist who helps teams during the combine and during the draft process. Like this guy's, he's got it. This guy, there's warning signs, whatever. And he's like touting his bona fides and saying like, Oh, I told the the Patriots like I warned them about Aaron Hernandez and stuff. So in the middle of this very lighthearted interview and, you know, they're asking, Oh, yeah, you there's successors. What are some ones that you got wrong or whatever? And then juju asks, do you need to be in the room with the person? I mean, I don't want to put you on the spot, brother. Can you tell like my character or is it like you have to be around me more or can you read me from here? Well, yeah, I wouldn't want my daughter dating you. You guys said you can give it out. I told you I can give it back. The whole time. Yes, sir. Paws big time pause. Dr. Johnson. Dr. Thank you for being on with us. He's the leadership coach and the founder of was that literally the end of it or they cut them off? No, they cut them off. They cut them off. And then they didn't go to break. They just sat there in silence. What you're listening to right now, the clip hasn't ended for the audience. No, the dancers sitting there. Greg Cody's drinking. We're going to go to commercial. Wow. Yeah. Yeah, man. It's the living embodiment of that joke that we do. Wow. It came in like like a cuckoo lyrical. It came to life. This is the third instance of something that we brought to life. We talked about until it actually manifested in real life. This cock. And there was a third thing. This cock. This cock. This is cock. And then as I sent this to our group chat with juju, which of course is called Rudy Faux Bear in case anybody was wondering at home. And I said, little does he know you're going after his mama, not his daughter. Yeah. Protecting the wrong member of your family, buddy. Wow. That that's a clip, man. That is. Yeah. That's a lot. Jesus. Yeah. What did Dan say after like after they came back from break to the, they had to have talked about it. They talked about it. They talked about it. I think that I think they did the right thing. Kind of like like, well, first of all, they honed it on juju. Why'd you salute him? Well, I would imagine out of honesty. I don't know. Yeah. I just, I respect the breakfast. I'm stunned by it, but I respect it. This is the best part of it. They go around the room and it was like, how shocking and how terrible is it? Juju said, you guys see out of sorts. That's just a Tuesday for me. Holy. Oh man. That's a great moment. Wow. This idea is just straight up bad. That algorithm is busted. It's among the worst ideas I've ever heard. Top five. Easy. I mean, struck this evening, y'all, but he's got five CT five. Welcome to Cinephobe, top five, aka CT five. This is the companion podcast to the top 10 in the world and TV film and review podcast, Cinephobe. What's Cinephobe you asked? Man, it's the thing that's the reason you're here. We review movies that are poorly rated on rotten tomatoes and try to ascertain whether they're accurately rated or maybe they're going to get a fair shake. And so what you should do if this is your first Cinephobe experience is you pause right now. You stop, you go back, you look up a regular Cinephobe episode, pick a movie that you've seen before so that you'll be familiar. You'll listen to the episode. You'll laugh. You'll be confused by some things. Say, what do they mean when they say same note to bro or whatever? Guess what? We have a handy dandy glossary episode. Listen to the glossary episode. You'll get all the little inside jokes and then from there off to the races. Listen to more episodes, listen to episodes of movies you haven't seen, movies you're curious about, movies you've never heard of. I guarantee you we will make you laugh. But what you'll notice in all your listening is that trends start to make themselves apparent. Things start to group and you start to see things through a certain lens and you see us try to rank things. Call these things top five. Cinephobe top five. We also call them CT5. I'm reminded from the first episode of this that you guys didn't like that. I still think it's stupid. I still think it's stupid. I still think it's stupid. You say CT5 all the time. Every episode you say CT5, CT5, this CT5, that you love it. I've been beaten down into it at this point, but I don't, I think it's stupid. Cinephobe top five. It's most of the, this podcast is I've been beaten down and well, you especially, you especially if I, if I announced my displeasure with every single thing that happened and every episode, I'd just be creating more work for myself. So that's the problem. Created a real, you're great. Yeah. You just keep hammering that, hammering that DQ until it sticks. Oh yeah. It's never gonna, never gonna do it. That's what we call movies that are not qualified for either audience or could have scored. We call them double qualifiers, DQs. But we're talking about CT5s right now. And so what we do is we give you our top fives and then we give you two outside looking ins or or L eyes. We've ranked all sorts of things through the years. This is about our fourth year of doing CT5s. This is number. Oh, I have the numbers somewhere. I'll pull it up, but we're approaching a hundred CT5s. Hundred CT5s. We've, we've, we've ranked everything from characters that we wish would be guests on Cinephobe, disrespectful heroes, respectful villains. Those are two different things. And of course the best athletes in Cinephobe history, but this time this week, what we're doing our top five scientists. So this is, this is the 77th CT5. And if you do it every other week, that means that's basically we are wrapping up the third year of CT5s. Interesting. Okay. 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I love more than when we have in the same slot the same the same what to bro same slot. Oh, got it. Yeah. My first Oli. I mean nothing more than being the same slot. At the same time. Yeah, we're both in that same slot at the same time. Was he you might say we doubled up on that. Slot. Billy Connolly. He might as a double pick. If you will. Well, yeah. Yeah. DP double pick. They're double posted either way. Shortens really. I like abbreviations. Yes. Scientist. But he's not responsible for the faxing. The fuck he isn't. No, he's an archaeologist. He's an archaeologist. He didn't create the technology. He helped create it. They created technology and they needed like and then he set himself himself back. No, come on. He accidentally. Yeah. This is no, there's a backstory. You guys don't understand just like just like we created the television. This Scotsman created time. The time. Who's we? What do you mean? White people. Scottish people. Scottish people created television. Absolutely. Look it up. It's it's the it's the it's the it's the it's the corporation that is a big part of the faxing technology. No, well archaeology still scientists will shut the fuck up. It is. That's the first thing I said. You fuck. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. Maze, you're all I. My O. L. I. My first O. L. I. is a respected member of the science community. Okay. Three PhDs published in four journals. Right now I can always meet him. Dan Brown. He's in the process of doing extensive research cultivating frog gamete. And that's none other than Charlie Fink Finkelstein. Beer fest. And he put that he puts that big ass brain to work. Figure out the boot. Scientifically crack the boot. Doss boot. And that is the climactic scene. He is really one really wanted to work him into my list, but just couldn't find the room. But the great member of the team. Absolutely. They don't win without him. All you know all the landfills in the world. You still need science. That's right. Even his twin brother fills in and says, just call me landfill to make it easier. Those landed. I'm fill land. Blender. Zach, your other O. L. I. I didn't know how to pick between the two because I didn't know which one did more work. Which one did more science. I just know that they probably would have accomplished much more if it didn't constantly run into it's just one of those days. It's the two scientists from the telescope. Batman or Robin. Yeah. Had those on my cutting room floor. Yeah. Just one of those days astronomers. Yeah. They were on the cutting room floor for me as well, Zach, but and is a very adjacent slot. I have from the very same movie. A man who was a great scientist and then was beset by great tragedy that almost took his wife away. And so he started using science to try to find a cure. It's Mr. Freeze. I didn't know where he would fit on your list. So I just I laid out at a room floor. Yeah. All right, everyone. Good teammate. Good job. Good teammate, Maze. Is that a sound up? To everybody. Also, he does research like telling us what killed the dinosaurs. What did? Oh, that is that is important. What killed the dinosaurs? The eye is age. He's also a pun scientist. I really love I love the sound of the gun. It's it's my favorite part of that sound. Yeah. Do you guys like how much of it is included? Would you want more? Is it more to it? Well, I cut it off because it's loud as fuck. But I don't mind that because I want the whole Rantlers clip. Yeah, they say what's the what's the side they do when you call a 20 second time out and then you switch to a full you go like this. Yeah. We can we can maybe re cut the freeze again. That'd be great. Let's do Rantlers too. We can whoever lives on the board. Also, no, no, version. Okay. My other Oli this was this was the last one that I came up with man. I'm glad that I kept going until I remember this person because they cured Alzheimer's. Okay. But in the process of creating Alzheimer's, they created giant brain super smart sharks. It's Saffron Burrows as Dr. Susan McAllister and deep blue sea. I wrote I couldn't before I wrote. No, that well I wrote I wrote down because I couldn't remember her name. I wasn't going to look it up. I just wrote down ass on deep blue sea. That's her next chain carry deep blue sea. Wait a second. Oh, I thought it was a little cool day. Who doesn't eat the one who's breaking things down? Well, he's bring that logic. I gave him a shout out in my little right up here. I said or relativity not logic, relativity because he's on a scientist, but he gives the best explanation of relativity that a scientist has ever hurt. That's right. So, you know, he's really like translating the jargon down to the layman down to really what's really important, which is a hot woman. That's right. But always her partner, Stellan Skarsgard, they call him the most brilliant man ever as he's pissing into the wind and they say, why would a brilliant man piss into the wind like that? That's a good question. They're attempting to achieve what's never been done. They're this close to the reactivation of a human brain cell. Okay. And Sam Jackson is the head of the board. He sunk $200 million into her Alzheimer's research and then gives her like a 48 hour drop dead window, which causes them to skip all these trials, take all these guardrails off, grow this shark brain five times the normal size in direct violation of the Harvard genetics compact. I'll remind you. Mm hmm. That wasn't worried about that because this was personal to her because her dad had Alzheimer's. Absolutely. Terrible disease. We thank you for your service. What was your name? Saffron. Saffron burrows. Crazy. Crazy name. Yeah. All right. Number five. Number five. You guys are probably going to push back on this. You cannot deny the level of science that this person has done and is constantly doing in battling disease, much like May's just talked about with Alzheimer's. This person also battling a crippling disease constantly and was able to do it despite overcoming years as a child, years of bullying from across the street. It's more of us. Yeah. Yeah. I thought about him and then I thought about how much I hated him and I didn't even put them on my cutting floor. I thought Zach was going to say like MVP. The other day I was going through my photos as I was clearing stuff out and I saw a picture of the most valuable private wearing glasses. How is that? CT5 glasses. Yeah. We got to do CT5 glasses where, especially after this last movie we recorded. Oh, Morty is doing some real science, dude. He's got a lab. He's a great scientist. He's got the bat cyclone. Absolutely. And then he's doing all kinds of blood research. Dude, he's amazing. The Batman music play too, to get in the frame of mind. Guys, science is about what really? Trial and error. Tech. Nishin. Steps that you follow, repeat and master. When you said technician, I thought you were going to say tech from Van Wilder. It's a hundred percent where I thought he was going as well. No, it's not tech from Van Wilder. It's more of a, I guess I'd call it a sweet science. It's James the Grim Reaper roper. Wow. Wow. I thought about going to Apollo, but he died. So didn't want to go Rocky because I don't think there's any part of what he does. It's a science. I think Rocky just goes out there and just, there's no part of anything he does. It's any kind of learned. I don't know all the good things. I don't know the good things. Oh no, the good thing. I guess I could have gone with Tyler from snake eyes. He's another. We think he is. We didn't see it. That's a good point. Doesn't even know how to take a take a phantom punch. That's your favorite boxer or are you saying you just didn't want to go with Apollo or I didn't want to go with Apollo because because he died. Interesting. You don't. You don't want to go with the Russian team that cutting the floor. You didn't want to go with the Teen Wolf to are we doing the list or what are we doing here? Wow. I was just trying to, you know, do a mini list of boxers. We have kind of a lot of boxy. We do boxers coming. Forget what when we talked about like the sports, the sports, the xenophobe. No, because there's always the sports. Baseball, football. Yeah. And I think boxing is kind of sneaky. We got a lot of boxers sneaking up there. A lot of boxes because they work boxing into non sports movies a lot. Right. Like snake eyes. Yeah. All right. My number five. This science is so mind blowing that it defies logic. And one of the things I love about this movie is it doesn't bother trying to solve what the, what the negative effects of this amazing science could be. They just say whatever it works. It's great. It's a movie. It's when Jack Black invents vaporize. Cutting room for envy. Yeah. Cutting room for. Cutting room for. Yeah. I didn't, I ended up not putting in my top five because I knew Jack Black wasn't a scientist. The scientist was the other crazy guy who's at his house at noon in the morning. When Ben Stiller comes out and like, and so the crazy guy. Yeah, I forgot about that guy. So yeah. So he's the guy who's a scientist. Jack Black is more of a marketing. He's literally just an ideas man. He's the idea man. He thought of it and then he found some kooky scientist guy. All right. So should I change it to that guy? I think so. I don't mind much like Steve Jobs is a scientist or is it? Would you only give credit to Wozniak? Wozniak, man. He's a guy that's doing the shit. Steve Johnson. I like, I wish I had a book, but instead of a book, I just create the science of five dudes. Well, he did. God damn five dudes. Oh my God. Five dick sales. Speaking of Woz science, he's on wait a second with Jason Concepcion talking about Waymo's militarized Waymo's and how you have those are actually just drones that weren't declassified yet. That's right. So he is a scientist. I love the idea of like Steve Jobs. It's like 1984 and saying like I've got an idea that every home should have a computer. Me, you, Woz and these other five guys over here, we're going to work on this. I did so we make it real and watch and say, oh my God. This garage. Damn. Oh, you already. Yeah. So is that your number four? My number four, we saw just how scientific this person was. We saw what they were able to create, what they were able to combat, what they were able to really dissect in terms of this thing needs this and that thing needs that. And I can create all these different, I guess, products or solutions or whatever you want to call it to any, really any problem you have, we can find a way. Unfortunately, he only got credit, well, three credits for getting an A in his course. It's Silas. How high? Yeah. Really thought about it. Yeah. Really thought about it. It's funny when you made a kind though. It did. Absolutely. Absolutely. But you only got three credits. And an A. An A. It's funny, Zach, when you start to describe things, I'm like, oh my God, is he doing mine? And then you make a left turn somewhere and it's like, nope, you're doing your own thing. Because I too have someone who took steps and experimented. And then the key part about science is not just having a hypothesis, it's not just testing the hypothesis. It's the repeatability of the result. That's a key component to this. That you scientific method. And I said, when I do this, do I get repeat results using the same method? And so I had two people from two different movies who both had science on their side. Coakley from Hall Pass and Bill Bellamy and how to be a player. Interesting. The manly science of Wenching. I would say Coakley is more of a scientist than Bill Bellamy. I put Coakley as the name upfront and Bellamy on the outside looking or outside looking in. If Bill Bellamy had told us literally anything. See, I believe he has the rules in the science. He didn't share it. He wanted to share it even though that's supposed to be the whole movie is the premise of the movie. Right. But he never shares it. And no one seems to be upset either. Like the guys are like, aren't you going to finish it? And they all kind of went along with it. Coakley, he's teaching and those guys are learning. I mean, he's showing you. He's like showing you his experiment. Real application. Yeah. Working well. Yeah. I'm with it. All right. My number four and we're into, we're into this an elite class because I love my number four and he could have been my number one very easily. He's so committed to his science. He's willing to completely ruin every other facet of his life. He's willing to drive away his wife and neglect her completely. He's willing to smoke cigarettes in bed because he's up all night trying to figure out how to use virtual reality to enhance cognitive performance. It's Dr. Lawrence Angelo from lawnmower man. Yeah. See, now maze I thought. Joe, I thought, well, one, I, I didn't, I didn't know how to frame it. I also thought if I had him on my list, he'd be too low. Right. I probably would have had him in this four range. I worried that you guys would have him higher, but I was, I was coming down to framing it as well. He was on a quest to reverse or eradicate bingoism, not improve cognitive. No, it wasn't. That's a hundred percent what that is. Is Roscoe a bingo? I don't know. I just know he's the best gym I've ever had. What are the other ones? Not bingo enough to grab a gun. He did grab a gun. Yeah. I know. I know what version you watched. Thank you. Number three. My, my favorite part about Dr. Lawrence Angelo is that it just says scientist that didn't specialize him. That didn't say what field he was in. My favorite part is him. Spoking heaters in bed. Oh yeah. Three in the morning. That's insane. All right. My number three, three. We can get a little too caught up in someone being villain. If you want to call it that, I think we've learned in this age of technology, data is king. Everything's about collecting. Like people are always worried about the robots taking over, right? Yeah. Oh my God. They're literally was. Yeah. They're going to kill us and all this stuff. I don't think robots are interested. They have no reason to be interested in like, oh, let's acquire this land. Let's take, if anything, they, their interest would be data because that is what their currency is. That is what their blood is, right? Zero zones, baby. Yeah. So collecting data should, you know, could it does have real implications. This guy was doing it. Yeah. Maybe get some information to do some crimes with it, but are we sure that the villain status of one Edward E. Nigma is that high? What's happening? What's that face? You don't like, you don't like Edward E. Nigma fanfare. I don't know. You're not going to get that. I'm not going to get that. I'm not going to get that. I'm not going to get that. I'm not going to get that. I don't know you want fanfare for that. What am I? What are Ed see confusing in calm the Riddler? Yeah. Well, see the Riddler was not doing the science. The Riddler was doing the thieving Edward E. Nigma was doing the science and creating the why am I getting the? Oh, my daughter's dating one of those Edwards. No, see it doesn't. It was actually kind of close. It was closer than I thought it would be. It's pretty hard to cover. That was Edward. That was that was Edwards. Yeah, does it sound horrible? Ed words. You've got such a cold. What's happening there? Blow your nose. Well, the Edwards. Yeah, I had I had him in my cutting room floor. I mean, it was a brain way of box. It's in the invention. That's an the invention to read minds. And I want television. Is that version of the Riddler the Riddler? The is he always a scientist or is that version in Batman forever? The only one I don't know. I don't know enough. I don't know about that. Joe Schumacher's. I feel like a lot of it is him prancing around dropping riddles. I'll go watch the. I'll go see if he's in the nineteen forty four. Yeah, thanks for that. I appreciate that. I thought you were going to say dropping something else. Driving Edwards. Don't do that. It really is. It really is worse now that we've reframed the first. Yeah, it is. Yeah, it got worse in the golden age characters origin story recounts Edward Nygma's fascination with puzzles. He's a big puzzle guy. And he's a master puzzles. But in the Batman Robins or forever. Absolutely. 100 percent. He's an inventor. He's doing R and D. Absolutely. Or Wayne Enterprise. Eulene. When Wayne Enterprises. He is doing his kind of doing his own projects and not really. I worked at the court of appeals and just worked on my website. But what? What is it? Isn't it like anything that he invents on company time? Bruce Wayne owns. Yeah, I know the state of California on my website. I don't know. I didn't check the legalities. Oh, we do. If only they knew. He could have profited off of top. Oops.net. What a time they could have had. I mean, your number three. No preamble here. It's the scientists from spies like us were by the ICBM. Do y'all remember that? I don't remember this at all. This is a wolf situation. You don't remember the scientists by the missile. Remember when they creep up and they have to work together with the Russian scientists to stop the hot women. Yeah. Well, I saw them as scientists. I'm sorry. You, the misogynist, see them as just pieces of meat at the market. Me, I see them for what they are. They're highly highly qualified. I'm sorry. I don't go to. I don't know a lot of lowly qualified scientists. Zach Harper, well-known misogynist goes down to the market to get his meat. Because it's the 20 CB. I respect. You don't see five liars. You're number one. You really are doing it. You're really doing the Michael Sarah clip right now. Yeah. You're even holding your hand up. Like you have a bottle of gold swagger in it. Sorry that I noticed them for their brains before their bosoms. Zach. Those aren't called brains. Brains. You see why is it that on the fucking whole rocky page? Because I like doing the rocky impression myself. The analog soundboard, the hesitation before you anything that wait a second. He's calling you. Tom. It's so panicked. All right. My number three. I couldn't choose. So if you guys want me to choose, I'll narrow it down, but I went with two scientists from the same movie that are on opposite side to the coin morally. They're both doing really good science. And I'm talking of course about Loveless and Artemis Gordon. Oh, I forgot. Loveless is a scientist. Oh yeah. He's going crazy dude. I had Artemis as cutting room floor, but I forgot. I forgot. Loveless is a scientist. Steam powered tanks invented the wheelchair. Steam powered. What is this? A wheelchair. This feels like a like a Billy Connolly situation where he has it, but like I don't know the amount of it. How else is he a massive power? You think munition made it as a. Well, she's she's in charge of munitions. Yeah. Miss Lipid reader is the translator. You know they all have their roles. You bumped her off of your CD. I know. I know. It was tough. You know Loveless. It's pretty repetitive theme, which is steam powered killing machine. That's the thing. What he'll get. Yeah. When you get to the field also if it can look like a spider great. Yeah. I'll have spiders. Artemis Gordon is a little more like inspector gadgety. Yeah. Very much. It's a good idea. But he invented a bulletproof vest and a flying bicycle. So they're both getting it done. The train's dope as fuck with all those compartments and everything. Hold on. Oh, so my ride there. Scientists are absolutely they put an MRI machine into a car. Intestination wagon. Are they scientists? We heard you like science. So we invented a science car. So you can do science while you science. Yes. This scientist met his demise. So you could you could downgrade how great the scientists is was. But luckily for us, the scientists exist in a world where 40% of it is flashbacks. I mean, you didn't pick them, but I will. Paula Creed, kind of money. Fisto sweet scientist. Yeah. Come on. He's the best boxer of them all. He is absolutely. He was a truck full of steroids like Drago. Yeah. Chuck full of whatever. Drago is the result of science. Um, Paula Creed. Come on, man. Could Apollo Creed. Yes. Take months off of training, gain weight, smoke on his way to the ring and still win. Here's the thing. I think he did take months off a training. Oh, that's him. That's him. That's him out of shape. Yeah. That's that's Carl Weathers. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. If that was a fair fight, no, no steroids. He wase Drago. Of course. No, no, we all know that. We all know that. Also, if Rocky's fucking Rantlers would have got going through in the towel, he would still be alive today. You listen to Duke. Whoa. All right, P. Rantlers. Rantlers. Roof. Unbelievable. Please. You got it. I've got it. I've got it. I've got it. You don't think you're unbelievable, man? I've got $50 to put it on the board. Whoa. Yeah. Send that check. Put it on the board. Put your money where your mouth is, baby. You can still do it. Oh. Oh. You can still do it. You know the problem is I really have to pee. But I know what I mean is going to freak the fuck out if I get up and pee while he's giving his pick because he cried about last time. Why would you? Why would you wait until we're at the pinnacle? Well, that's a good point. Yeah. Number two, you guys mentioned the wolves from a million ways to die in the West and trust me, I spent a lot of time. I did. When he said the scientists, I said this is like the wolves. Oh, wait a listen. Wait a listen, man. He's all. I spent the better part of the last 24 hours trying to figure out a way to make them scientists. And guess what? I couldn't. I can't. I'd love to never stop you before. That's right. No, no, no. They were all legitimate before this one would be illegitimate. And I'm not going to do something illegitimate. I will not make something illegitimate. Everything I make is legitimate. So that's why I'm going with a combo of Mr. Belding and Doc Brown, both from a million ways to die in the West. Doc Brown's a good call. I forgot about him in that movie. Yeah. Doc Brown, clearly the one of the most accomplished scientists we've had. He's Mr. Belding a scientist. Wait, he says science. Yeah. But in the wild West, yeah. Astrophysics. I'm not an astrophysicist. You would be in the wild West. No, no, no. That's a good point. It's chemistry and it's the wild, wild West. So what about volcanology? Not a sign. That was a very tough cutting room floor, but I already have a pierce brazen on my list. Write it down. So it's your version of Morbius. No, I couldn't. I couldn't do two different pierce brasens and I didn't want to get cute and do pierce brasen as two different characters. So he was unfortunately cut because also not a scientist. Nothing can take me away from Dr. Lawrence. Angelo. Just the vibes of that dude. It's a great name. Java. Those guys are trying to do technically. Yeah, they all are. You got a team. Maze. They were together too. I'm not going to stand for the disrespect of putting Mr. Freeze on your Oli. What the fuck? He didn't actually accomplish anything though. Excuse me. He froze. Have a go. The city. Okay. How's his wife doing? She's frozen until he figures it out. Figure it out. Genius scientist. You gotta get the diamonds. He got the diamonds. He had a shitload of diamonds. Not enough. He just used the powers gun. Zach, we need more. We see what happens when you rush science. Okay. You want to spray the killer giant sharks that are super smart. All right. Can't rush this stuff. You got to get it right. And that's why you keep her in the freezer until you're ready to go. And also, you know what? If Vivica Fox was split with me, maybe I wouldn't be in a rush to get my wife unfrozen either. Would have pulled the plug just like poison ivy cold shoulder. The best part though is that, you know, the only thing he needs to power his freeze ray is a very, very bountiful, super accessible resource like diamonds. That's all he needs. So literally everywhere. Literally everywhere. Yeah. He's gonna steal them. That's why he's got a bad scientist. Bad scientist. What? Why? He's a bad scientist because his wife still isn't cured. That's all he's dedicated his life to. And you keep making this like a like a inability as opposed to a choice. Zach, have you ever met Mrs. Freeze? I've not. A real bitch. Some flashbacks though. Yeah. Wasn't that. At what point was she a bitch wife? One of those flashbacks. Not once. Oh my God. Here she comes again. He probably froze her. Don't think that happened. It happened. Oh, just like that. And then he's at the supermarket one day and he sees biblical Fox and she's like, oh, I like blue. And he's like, you and me. Oh, I like blue. Yeah. Is that where I'm blue? Let's get some ice. And blues. Zach, you're number one. I'm going to freak the fuck out if this isn't a sweep. No, it's not a sweep. How is it not a sweep? He invented a fanny pack that just regenerates cheeseburgers over and over. It's keen bean, Richie Rich. Proved a pee we he didn't. We talked about in the episode. That is a little bit more variety than a cheeseburger. Coming back through that fanny pack every fucking time. That's why he's got him in his hand as he's playing basketball. That's the greatest invention ever. You give me a fanny pack. I just reach in the new cheeseburger. If you invented a fanny pack with unlimited cheeseburgers, why is he going to the McDonald's to load up his tray? Dude, you could buy a fish at the fucking store or you could go fishing. Sometimes you just want to, you know, you want the activity. Sometimes you want to fish fillet. Yeah. I mean, he's a good pick. He invented a lot of, a lot of dope shit. He didn't even bottomless cheeseburger fanny pack though. We talked about it. Didn't the machine fuck up and it was put on anvils or some shit? What? You're thinking of looney tunes. No, it's that I don't. He's I thought they had the in the in the in. They were putting like heavy shit in and it was doing something with it. I don't think it was sitting out anvils. This is the greatest inventor of all time. Lot of resources to unlimited budget. Richie Richie. Okay. I was in a budget. You think you you think you couldn't do it? Dan from night court is like, why are we wasting all this money? On me? Clearly, I mean successful scientists. I mean, did the Warriors they signed Kevin Durant because they had to? Oh, because they wanted to. So Kevin Durant is a bottomless cheeseburger fanny pack in this situation that he isn't. Or is or is KD? He and the scientist and Murray Spates is he we. That's not nice. God, I wish you. No buckets. You what? Nothing. I'm with my number one. I mean, it was offended in case you were wondering. I was my number one. You guys named some pretty cool scientists. I'll give you that. I agree. Great inventions, convenient inventions. But only one scientist created a machine against all odds and not with an unlimited budget. Not with the support of the scientific community created a machine that allowed you to go into different dimensions of the space time continuum and then came back to the today show to talk shit about it to Matt Lauer. It's Dr. Rick Marshall. Fucking worst scientist. The worst pick you could have had. Terrible. He's right. He's not. He is right. What's his book called? I did it at the end. No, that's OJ's. That's if I did it. Oh, got it. You copy of that. You have a copy of it. No, do we? We? As a society, I'd love to read it. Kick, save it a beat. You wouldn't read that? You've bought weirder shit for this podcast. So that's that's on you. I did it. You are the you are the treasurer of Cinefo of some. You should put on your night vision goggles while you read it. Wait, is this real? This is fucking Amazon like. Oh, no, it's by the Goldman family. If they did it. What? That's weird. Is that something because does everyone get to make it a version? Can I write it right? If you put it in front of the title, you can do it. Yeah, you put it if you can get away with just about anything from literature. Murder. Oh. Okay. My number one came to this realization about Midway through my list and more thought about it. This is maybe the greatest scientific mind in movie history. Yoncino foe above and beyond. He's given us VR filing systems. He's given us diamond powered laser guns killing gorillas. He's given us reanimated dinosaurs. And as I wrote in my notes for timeline, he wants to fax objects to the past. Michael Crain, you've done it again. I don't know about that. Rod. I don't know if I like that. Well, that's tough because he graduated from Harvard with a degree in biological anthropology. Did Pablo graduate from Harvard? Like it's that Mickey Mouse scientist. Silas. So your boy. Well, we don't know how to graduate this course, but Silas would have been higher. He would have been number one on my list if he got a degree from it, but he just got an A in one course. Yeah, he's still a friend. He's going into a sophomore year. Yeah, don't know what's going to happen. So Crichton had always planned on becoming a writer. And so we went into Harvard in 1960 as an English major and during his freshman year, science in the sixties. The fuck out of here. He conducted an experiment. I like you all to do an experiment. Being a fucking basketball Hall of Famer to expose a professor who believed it was giving him abnormally low marks and criticizing his literary style. So he informed another professor that he thought this guy was ripping him off. And then he submitted an essay by George Orwell. So straight up plagiarism under his own name and the professor gave him a B minus. And so because of that, he decided he didn't want to be an English major anymore. He wanted to get a more scientifically grounded education. This makes me hate Michael Crichton. You already hated Michael Crichton, but really like it's more severe now. I think in terms of Sinophobe, Sinophobe science, I would like to watch the spear. I think the crazier and crazier he gets, the older and older he gets, the more washed he gets. But then by the time he's doing timeline, it's gonna be like, what about a fax machine for people? What? Hold on. Tell me how he's regressed. The book, the book was really good. The book was amazing. The movie. They didn't have a fax machine in it. Nerd. Oh, I thought you're gonna do Gerard Butler. Oh, the timeline book is really good, guys. Can you do that again as Gerard Butler? Because that's what I thought you're gonna do when you created your throat. Yeah, I think it means a nerd for reading the book. Oh, wait. I thought he's gonna back me up. Thanks Gerard. All right, Maze. Can you recap the top fives for us? Zach had number five Morbius, Dr. Michael Morbius, Method man is Silas and how high the Riddler from Batman forever. Not the Riddler. Apollo Creed, the sweet scientist from Rocky for and professor keen bean from Richie Rich. A very unserious list by Zach. I don't like to judge these, but that one was incredibly unserious top to bottom. Well, how are we talking about allegedly unserious list? Let's talk about James the grim reaper roper from great white hype. Coakley and Bill Bellamy. Kinda. Kinda is coakley. No, you could you could put Coakley. No, I have to know what you said. That's what you said. The scientist by the ICBM in spies like us that neither Zach or I remembered. Mr. Belding and Doc Brown from a million ways to die in the West and Dr. Rick Marshall from land of the lost Zach remembers hot women, but doesn't remember the least serious list you ever had right there. I have scientists on my list. At least he came back around at the top because it's when it started and he had Mr. Freeze out. Oh, I was, I was not pleased. Okay. I started with, I was getting ready for a great list. I was starting. I started with Jack Black, the Steve Jobs of vaporize in envy. Pierce Brosnan is Dr. Laura Sanjolo from lawnmower man, loveless, an Artemis Gordon from wild west. Mr. Freeze from Batman and Robin and Michael Crichton. You try to, you sure he didn't try to cure bingoism. Sounds like we need to re re Washington. No, I would love to. We could do that every month. Emphasis on the re re re. Oh,哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎 the dings. You get access to rewatched and live events past present future, the discord, early episodes, ad-frips, all kinds of shit, including cold opens extended version and the cut of room floor for ct5.