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And listen on iHeart radio stations across America and the free iHeart app. Hey there, this is Josh from Stuff You Should Know with a message that could change your life. The Stuff You Should Know ThinkSpring podcast playlist is available now. Whether Spring has sprung in your neck of the woods yet or not, the Stuff You Should Know ThinkSpring playlist will make you want to get your overalls on, get outside, and get your hands in the dirt. You can get the Stuff You Should Know ThinkSpring playlist on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. R&B money. Money. We are. We are. Tank. Jake Valentine. We are. The authorities. On all things R&B. Ladies and gentlemen, my name is Tank. I'm Jake Valentine. And this is the R&B Money Podcast, the authority on all things R&B. The number one R&B podcast in the world, friend. Some people don't like to hear that. Top flight R&B shit in the world. I don't know. It's not like we, you know. Where did it go set us? We're inclusive, but we. For some reason, they, you know, they like to be like, eh, and I don't know. Nigga, you know. What don't they know? I know. Who? Who? Pa, this is it. Don't nobody want this R&B smoke. We are the smokiest niggers in R&B. Having this conversation with the likes of the list is long. Today's a special day, Mr. Valentine. This is, this is our closeout of our third season. It's a lot of episodes. It's a lot of episodes. It's 150. 150. 150. Like, like when I came to you at the studio in Burbank, me and Ruben were like, we should do a pod. And you were like, man, I'm not sitting there talking to you for no motherfucking. You're not talking to you for no hour. I'm sitting on no couch with you, nigga. I think because we had to also, we had to figure out how to make it all make sense. Yeah. How to make it all make sense. And, you know, what we wanted to talk about. And I think a big part of that is people understanding, from my standpoint of it, is, and I think yours as well, that it's more of a show about the journey of all things and entertainment, all things and being successful. Yeah. You know what I mean? And I think at times, I think I just didn't want to be pigeonholed. I didn't want us to be pigeonholed as far as the only thing they thought of is that, oh, if they're not having such and such R&B singer on the show, then. Poor guy. And to me, I thought that was putting us in a bit of a box because we've done so much in entertainment. Right. Period. And we have so many friends in it. And I think that the worlds are mesh. They had to understand. And I hope they did during this time is that it's always going to be R&B because you and I are R&B. Exactly. You know what I mean? More than anything. And yes, we're going to stand on the fact that we want R&B music mixed into all of these things, other than it just being like, OK, well, yeah, y'all should be on here talking about drum patterns. And well, first, I'm not a music nerd. Yeah. You are. I'm not. I'm not a music nerd. I love music, but I don't really care what machine a nigga use to make what. It shit don't mean that. Does it sound good? I don't care if a little bag on a lunchbox. James Brown said, does it sound good? Listen, if you bag on the lunchbox on the table and made it, I'm rolling if it sounds good to my ears. So that was I think my biggest hesitation in the beginning when we were talking about doing it. I'm like, and the way you explained it to me was, J, our company is called R&B Money. We got to call R&B Money. And I was like, you're absolutely right. You know what I mean? You're absolutely right. Because, you know, and I feel like it gave us our niche amongst all the other things. And we bring R&B with, you know, and we inserted into the conversation. Absolutely. No matter who's on our show with us. And I think that's that's been a really cool and important part that everywhere we go is R&B Money and it's R&B. But that was the balance of it between you and I. You know what I'm saying? Just that that alone, like you don't care with machine a nigga using. Right. You know what I'm saying? I am questioning him down about his doll. And you know what I'm saying? What you stacked that with, you want to layer that with a, you know what I'm saying? I'm going all of it. So it's it was the balance because you're very much you're very much into the the the the aesthetic, the final product and and how it like what it what is what is it going to end up being? Rare. I mean, because for me, you're all that. I still look at myself as a consumer. Right. I've just been a consumer who's been able to make a living making music. But I'm still a consumer. But you're not a consumer. I am. You're absolutely. I pay for my Spotify, for my Apple music. I got all of them. I got Amazon. You're not a consumer. Why not? If I buy it, I am consuming. You're too talented to be a consumer. No, it's like a nigga that made the league that now buys tickets. Go to the games because he's not in no more. Jay, whether you like it or not, you're behind the veil. You have too much information to be a true consumer. You have too much ability to be a true consumer. You analyze the game completely differently. Now, you know the metrics, you know the numbers, you know how to read all of these things, right? But you still come from a different place. Unfortunately. OK, no, no, no, no, unfortunately. Fortunately, I'm appreciative of that. Yeah. Yeah. But I just feel like if I buy it, I got an opinion on it. Listen, you know what's cracking. I mean, that's what you we give you. We give you credit for that. You know what's cracking. I know it's not. And you know it's not. And it's always like that. I will say if something's not cracking, I don't mind something's not cracking. And I don't mind the conversation that comes from me speaking my opinion. Because you can articulate it. Because I can articulate my opinion. And I believe that in this many years of consuming, here you go. Consuming these things. My opinion is of expert at this point. I feel like I have an expert opinion. I mean, so it's really funny when I see people, because, you know, me, I see the people who say shit and then I go on a page and I'm like, oh, you do music. I've never heard any of it. Oh, shit. And you're arguing with me about being successful in music. Or you're arguing with whoever our guests are arguing about whoever our guest is and the advice that they're giving. These very successful people that are on these shows. You're against it. Talking against. Like you have insight first, first, super legends. Fuck me. Yeah, yeah. The super legend that's on the show that gave his or her time to tell you what they see in the game, what they feel about the game, how they were able to win in the game. Yeah. And yeah, niggas that are still trying to figure out how to get their first placement. Are having arguments with people in the comment section. And are actually even combating you and I. And I'm like, this is crazy because the other part about us doing this is that it's really cultural for us. Right. This is not to change our lives to become Uber millionaires doing a show or podcast. This is really a cultural play. That's why we have who we have on the show. We are not looking at, as you said, metrics. We're not looking at, oh, this person is going to do so much numbers or so many, you know, so many views that we could care less. Like we really are doing this so that the young kid or the older person who loves and does music can. See these interviews and maybe author some of their views or some of the ways that they're going about about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so that they can they can reach some levels of success of the people that we're bringing on here, even if they've never heard of these people. Yeah, these people are tenured in this business. Like we don't just bring just anybody are tenured in this business and in other businesses. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they make in the NBA. Shit. It's only five is five less than or somewhere around five thousand people who've ever played it ever played ever ever. It's five thousand new songs that come out every day. It's only five thousand. So someone coming on here and telling their story, you got to be respectful of that. Absolutely. Or if we got a movie star or a TV star or a comedian that makes a living like most comedians don't make a living, you know, we should do. What should we do? We got to figure out coming next season. We got to figure out what the number is on how many people have had a hit record. Well, what that you know, that's a relative that's a relative question to know what kind of a chart topping universally recognized hit record. Oh, not know he got hits on his album. No, no, no, no. Not know. Oh, this song introduced him or this song got him in or no, no, no, no. Life changing chart topping record. Think we should. We should find out. I mean, I'm sure the Google's because as we say five thousand people only around five made the NBA. I want to know the number of people who have actually written, performed, produced, sang a hit song. And what that number looks like and people and then make people understand what kind of club they're trying to get into. No, I think I was I was reading somewhere or I was listening to something and someone was giving a breakdown of the people who actually make a living doing music. That in its that's different to it's. Yeah, they were saying it's less than five percent of the people who actually do music make living like a living wage to just do music to just do music less than five percent of the world. Like that actually make enough money to only do a car note to only do music. It's really it's really tough. Yeah. And and that's the part that I feel like we've tried. To to help in. Being you know, because don't read as much no more. We know that. So we've we've tried to give them some form of a playbook to listen to and watch. Yeah. So I mean, I think that that'd be my biggest thing. I've you know, I'm not bothered by the comments, but it just it just makes me think to myself like them. Some people don't want to learn. Some people just want to talk shit. And these are these are actual because I'll be going out. Listen, I'll click on the page. Yeah. And then I'll listen to the music and I'll see what's going on. And I'm like, it ain't no way that you believe because self inventory is a mother fuck, right? Just listening is a mother fuck. Yeah. Just listening like just like. Okay, let me let me hear it. And by me hearing it and listening to it. Let me let me actually see where I fall within what I'm listening to. Yeah. Like from from from a work standpoint, from the amount of work you're putting in to a sonic standpoint, to a a release standpoint, to a marketing step, to whatever it is, where do I fall within what I'm listening to and how it's performed for them? Where do I fall with it? And that's the honest conversation that. I don't know. I don't, I don't know if people don't want to have it or if they can't have it. Because what I also know is that. All levels aren't meant for everybody. Right. Everybody can't understand what we do. Yeah. And they can't understand always the intent. They don't, they can't. No matter, no matter, like we can say we can have a help convention, right? This is for help. If you need help, anything you need to help with, that is why we're here to help you. Right. What do you need? There's going to be somebody at that convention. It's going to be like this. Man, all this goddamn help. Damn, nigga. Why? Why, why, why didn't they got to help so much? Like, yeah, okay, I got everybody in here helping God, God damn. You see all this shit? I ain't coming tomorrow. There's too much motherfucking help in here, man. It's just, it's just helping, helping, helping, nigga. God, it's. It's always that. Group of whatever the, I don't know what that is. Yeah. It's the yang. Yen and Yang. Yeah. Light cannot exist without darkness and vice versa. Yeah. You know, and so we, we try, but we still try. No, absolutely. We still try. We still try. I mean, and for me, I love, I love doing it. I think it's, it's, it's, it's actually a labor of love. Yeah. Like I love doing it. I love having the conversations because as they say, it's all, if you can help one, I feel like we helping way more than one. Yep. You know what I mean? Yeah. Um, I would like personally for the artists, the musicians, the executives, I would like for people to do more self auditing. When I first came to LA, bro, I had these 10 songs and I said it before. Once I sat in the studio and I saw what was really going on, I was like, oh, I suck. I suck. I'm weak. I'm weak. And I know I'm weak. And no, I'm not going to take that meeting at a Yav Yom publishing that I was supposed to take with Michael McCormick. And I was like, I'm not going to take that meeting because I don't want him to think I'm weak because I think I'm weak right now because I am, I am comparing it to what I believe will be on the radio tomorrow. And I just didn't feel like I was at that level. And I think that the internet has made it where everybody just takes shots. And it's cool to take these shots, but it's a really tough space to put yourself in where if you're presenting yourself to whatever artist it is or whatever executive it is, and you're just, you're, you're spamming them with foolishness because you haven't truly audited. Okay, let me, let me give you perspective. Okay. Okay. Please give you perspective. There, let's, let's talk auditors. Right. You can get like maybe, maybe one of your friends went to like an auditing school. You know what I'm saying? A local auditing school to learn how to audit things. Right. And he graduated in six months with whatever paper that comes with that local auditing thing and he's, nigga, you need an audit. I got you, baby. And then there's the master auditor who, you know, went to Harvard. And if this is even a thing, I'm really just making this up to have, to get his auditing degree because he didn't just need something to do. He genuinely had an affinity for auditing, for problem solving, for digging. And he had a gift for it. And he wanted to see it all the way through. Okay. Now I'm, now I'm, now I'm a framing and bring it all together where someone has got the ox and played a track that completely destroyed the room. And then somebody's like, can I play some? And they grab the ox and play something that is absolutely not on that level. And you can't tell them it is not. Their auditing system is that local, that local auditing school that they went to, they just needed something to do. So they don't have the gift of auditing. They're just, they're just trying to audit because they need a job. The master auditor has a gift. And the gift that the master auditor have, that regular auditor would never have. That guy who played that track after that guy who just smashed the room, he'll never have the master auditor gift. So he can't hear it. He can't hear it. I don't believe that. Jay, I don't believe that. I think some people are just crazy. No, there's that too. I think some people are crazy. There's that too. But you have to, you have to leave room for. They can't hear it. They can't hear it. They can't do it. They can't see it. They can't smell it. They can't. It's not that they don't want to. They think they are. Which is why there are levels to everything. Like there's existence. Like without the without the people who have to sit out there, there's no way we would be able to perform up here. Agreed. And a lot of those people are those same people. See, they're not backstage. It's the same thing that a nigga watching the NBA. That he goes in and cooks at the park. He think he gonna run up on Kyrie Irvin. Oh, he, oh, he think he, he think about the. They're crazy about to work him. They're crazy. I've been shooting the same thousand shot stuff. Cory been shooting. I'm about to cook them. Same thousand shots. Yeah. Throwing out a gift. Can't hear it. Can't. Can't hear it. All right. All right. It's, it's. It's, it's the grace that. That we have to extend because when I did my first solo, my first lead. In church. I thought I was killing. You couldn't have told me. You couldn't hear it. No, I could not hear it. All I heard was me. That's crazy. I couldn't hear it. That's crazy. And it took Auntie Betty got rest her soul. Right. To say you was off, baby. Real off. She ain't just stop with off. She said real off. Right. And I said, okay, I got to figure it out. I got to find it. Thank God for the gift. Because then I had to tap into, okay, so what is she here and then I'm not here. And then what did I go? Then I become a master order. Yeah. No, no, I got to clean this up. So you saying that. The bad rappers, they girlfriends should stop lying to them. They girlfriends might not be lying to them. Listen, a woman in law, you it's going to buy all the way in. I got my boyfriend's mixtape. You should check this out. This should jump in nigga. He way better than Drake. I'm going to pick. I feel, I feel, but I also, I also, yeah, that's great. Okay. I also feel like rap. Is different than R&B. Then rapping is different than singing. I just feel like you know, if you can't sing, you don't. Okay. I've seen, we've seen them. I know, but like even the niggas that have had hit records that can't sing, they still like, yeah, you know, hold on. Right. They still, they still keep it above. Listen, I know we have this thing itemized, right? It's to go in certain order, but the way you're talking, we have to go here. Right. Jay, just look at the challenges. Just, just look at this. Just start. They're really fun. I'm glad you do them. This just, this just narrowed down to the residual. I just don't like that people tag me. Just leave me alone. You're the authority. Why would they tag you? Leave me alone. You're an authority. I am not going to judge your challenges unless you keep bothering me. Which they've been bothering me. You niggas must not have ears on your head to put some of this shit out. Jay, a nigga hit me and said, nigga, I sound dead on Chris Brown. Check mine out. He didn't. He told me. I wonder if he. He was as good as the source. As mind you, we're not fucking with Chris Brown on this song. I'm a singer's singer. Chris Brown did something so fucking special to that song. Unattainable. No one can catch him on that. Nobody. It's a wrap. Yeah. But for you to say. I'm on his ass. And not. Not even be close. Not. Not even being the same universe. Just could you have the auto tune in the right key? Lord, Lord, Lord, if that auto tune would have been off Lord Jesus. But. He believed that when he sent that to you. He actually asked me to be a collaborator on it. He was. Not reposting that room. It happens. Have standards. But they can't. They cannot hear that. And and I'm I'm wise enough to know. I have the mass master auditing to know that I can do my part and not sound crazy and at least give my thing to what that challenge is. But I'm in no way going to ever step out there and say, Nick, I'm dead on Brown's ass with this one. You niggas better. It's I'm not. I know. No. But here's the flip to that. Right. If he doesn't say that, maybe he don't even stick out amongst the thousands that have sent that are sent in because that type of statement makes you at least pay attention to it. But here but here is the here is what happens with that for me. And I think going back to why I didn't take that meeting a long time ago when I first had my little 10 songs and I was trying to get a publishing deal. It's because I believed in first impression. I will see your name again. And I'm not ever clicking on again. And they're going to got one time to really send me a bad batch of records. I see you as a bad batch of records. And this is niggas that I know personally. I'm like, you're a bad batch of records. Do you feel bad that you're bad? But buddy, buddy, when they name come up. Big BBR. I can't I can't confirm or deny that. BBR. But for me, I am a person that believes in first impressions and you should always put your best foot forward. And I think the reason I even, you know, I had made that one post about the challenges was I just looked at it as if people are giving you an opportunity because this is the challenges on opportunity. Absolutely. People get noticed to be seen. Yeah. People get a real, real chance, you know, from from what you what you've been doing and especially you also go above and beyond with reposting and putting on your story sometime, even putting on your page and introducing artists that people may know, people may may not know, may see somebody in a different light because you put it on your page and you have a really big platform. My thing is that if I was in that position personally, I would not send it until I felt like this is the greatest thing that I could possibly do. Because when people see this, I could really get an opportunity from this. And this could this could possibly change my life by somebody who not even just send it, you seeing it, somebody that's connected to you, somebody that just happens to go on your page and sees this person. That could help them. I've got many a calls about some of those posts like, you see that one? Where are they? Or somebody hit me and be like, bro, I don't even know such a thing like that. Yeah. Or this person called it that person. And then some people like, yeah, man, that nigga is wet. And this is not, this is established artists. That's that. Yeah. It's because that was not me taking a shot at up and comers. That was me taking a shot at everyone who is not putting those best foot forward. Who knows better? Especially the ones who know better. Who know, know better and we've heard better from. Yeah. And this is. And what then that also goes to the challenge of the song though, too. Yeah. It absolutely goes to the challenge of the song because and this is different and just re-singing a hook challenge. You kind of you put a challenge out there for someone to be a writer, a producer and a singer. Yep. Right. This is like, can you get because the levels are these and not the level of I'm talking about the actual audio levels. Yeah. Killing. Got to make it make it make it. Make your shit good. Make it. Come on, man. There are YouTube tutorials, man. You can't be down here or up here and then Chris is right here and did overseeing him and do 47,000 runs. Y'all know how I feel about all that. Damn right. You feel about the runs. You know how I feel about all that. Damn running, man. Listen, if you're going to do all that running, run to the stove and give me some Oreos because they accidentally vegan. And I am not, but it's bullshit. Hey there. This is Josh from Stuff You Should Know with a message that could change your life. The Stuff You Should Know ThinkSpring podcast playlist is available now. Whether spring has sprung in your neck of the woods yet or not, the Stuff You Should Know ThinkSpring playlist will make you want to get your overalls on, get outside and get your hands in the dirt. You can get the Stuff You Should Know ThinkSpring playlist on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Let's go. Our iHeart radio music awards are coming back Thursday, March 26th live on Fox. Watch as we honor the biggest stars from all genres of music that you love listening to all year long on your favorite iHeart radio station and the iHeart radio app. Hosted by Ludacris. Icon Award recipient, John Mellencamp. Innovator Award recipient, Miley Cyrus. With performances by Alex Warren, Kehlani, Lainey Wilson, Ludacris, Ray, TLC, Salt and Kappa, and Invoke. Plus, Taylor Swift makes her first award show appearance this year. Also, Gold Medal Olympian, Alyssa Liu, Neo, Nick Coleshaar, Zinger, Nikki Glazer, Sombra, Weiser, and more. Watch live on Fox Thursday, March 26th, at 8, 7 central. And listen on iHeart radio stations across America and the free iHeart app. But yeah, so that's my whole thing with the challenges. It was funny because of course I got attacked. Yeah. Which I thought is hilarious. Yeah. But you. Somebody literally said, I don't even care if he blocked me. Well, that defeats the purpose for you to listen. If if if it hurts you hit dogs. How? Hit dogs. How come on, man? Just I just, you know, I've been there. I've been the artist trying to get a record deal, getting a record deal, getting out of a record deal, putting out independent records. I've listened. I've run the gamut of all of it and I figured out how to be successful in music. Yeah. Right. So I feel like if I'm especially and I've been to me, I've been more successful on the executive and the writing side. So kind of no shit about how to put some things in place. And I'm just giving that information. Like, and maybe I will also. You know, I'm not I'm not a I'm not going to write a full paragraph. And maybe I should sometimes because things can be taken so many different ways. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. Things can be taken. Maybe you should do a live behind your post. Maybe I should. Maybe I should do a live. A live behind the post. If you want to talk to me about, should I say it? Tune into my life. Tune into my life. I might even tap you in and let you sing. And if you. But now you can't use all of the. Well, sing some singing. And sing a challenge. Sing your challenge. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, I think that's all. And that, again, for us is like as we dive into that with these challenges and all these things, like that is all why we do this. Yes. You know what I mean? To to these journeys, these opportunities, all of these things, these successes, the failures, all of these things are wrapped into no matter who's sitting in that hot seat, no matter what they do, no matter where they come from, we're all trying to to understand the parts that we can extrapolate and apply to what it is that we do. Yeah. Working hard, I don't give a fuck what it is. Working hard applies to everything. Everything. I learned something on every episode. Yeah. Yeah. Personally. I'm with that. I learned something on every episode no matter who we bring on because everybody's path has been different. Well, obviously they have. We have certain things that are parallel and, you know. Oh, yeah, that happened to me too. But for the most part, everybody's experience is theirs. And I try to I try to take from everybody's even the ones that, you know, I'm not an agreeable person at all time. So some things I may not agree with, but I'm like, OK, I get it. I get it. Maybe I wouldn't have done it that way, but I get it and I respect it because some things worked out for you. You know what I mean? And like I said, I just take that as I hope that the people that tune in and I believe that the majority of people that tune into the show and tune into the challenges and all these things really can take something from it and really can grow from it. And, you know, every now and then I just got. I'd be having just. It just be hard. Just. Just. Well, yeah, I'm I got a little more dark humor. My humor is a little dark. If you spiraling, I be one. I'll be one now. I mean, well. Speaking of pods, let's let's let's let's do a top five pod. Let's do top five pods. You going to do five? Yeah, you do five. I do five. We'll go one one in one. We'll just go back and forth. Give me your first one. In no particular order, no particular order. In no particular order. Babyface. Babyface. Because just. His journey, bro, him and him, you know, literally writing his life. Him writing his life, him adapting. To I want to be an artist and I got to figure out how to. Create the artist package of myself. Yeah. And him just not just taking somebody, not even just somebody L.A. retelling him, well, you ain't there yet. You know what I mean? Obviously he used the term breed, but he just told him like, you're not there yet. You're not an artist yet. And I think in this day and age, somebody would have been like, what do you mean I'm not an artist? And I'm a but a babyface said, oh, self auditing. I don't. I don't look like that. Yeah. And this is what and this is where I want to be. And this is who I want to be. So let me let me go give me a trench coat. Let me go. You know, I need a cherry girl. Auditing. You know what I'm saying? Like, I know my songs are good. I want to sing them. I don't just want to give them away. You know what I'm saying? So I think babyface's episode was really important for me. And you know, anybody that knows me knows that babyface is my favorite. You know what I mean? So I think his episode was super important for me. I'm going to go with Jamie Fox. It's my it's my first. Yes. Yes. Yes. For a few reasons. One, I mean, kick us off. Kick us off. Shout out to Fox. Man, that was a fire. We went straight to the moon. Yeah. Like and then it being a guy who was very instrumental in in getting me to the place where I am. Yeah. And fighting for me. And giving me, you know, giving me refuge. Yeah. I mean, when I needed it, you know what I'm saying? To have him be very instrumental in in just kicking this thing off this journey off for us. Yeah. Like he came and pulled up worse when we didn't have nothing. We had nothing. Yeah, we didn't have a proof of concept. But no deal. We had nothing. Nothing. Jamie, come to our pod. All right, I'm on the way. That's awesome. I'll be there in a minute. Yeah. Yeah. And and to do that, I mean, at the at the at the level, like, I mean, I think it's me and you are the same. Like we're not like we're not settled into like people who are friends with us, people who are family with us. We're not just settled into that. We respect who they are and what they've accomplished also. We don't take that part for granted. And Jamie Foxx, every award, Oscar, every level of entertainment at the highest height, like he's a list. Yeah. To just say, Nick, I'm on the way. Yeah. Like that was just, we couldn't beat them. Yeah. I'm another one for me would be. I mean, Chris Brown. Yeah. Chris Brown. That was what I thought. Yeah. No, I mean, Chris Brown is, I mean, his episode was really important because I felt like we created a safe space for him. Mm hmm. Naturally. Yeah. Now, like we purposely were like, oh, we got it. No, I just felt like, you know, because of our relationship with him and knowing him for so long and our love and respect that we all have for each other made it where people could see him in a different space where he was more comfortable. Mm hmm. And I just think his story and what he's what he's done should be studied. I think it should be studied. I've never seen. And I was telling somebody this. I've never seen anyone in anything like this. I've never seen anyone in anything rain for this long, where they didn't have really anybody battling them at that level to me. Yeah. Like there is there's there's. No, no one. You know, I'm talking about during his reign, right? Not like when he first got there. And yes, it took time. Rain has been a good 15 years of Chris and everybody's trying to figure out how to compete with Chris more so than it's like. And I'm talking about from a record sense, where it's can can, you know, when we thought about the people mentioned the verses and all those type of things. Niggas was going to have to pull back from a long time ago before him, before him, not during his time. Right. So I mean, shit, even Michael Jordan had Dominique Wilkins. He did. You know what I mean? But you think Dominique won that one dunk contest? He beat him in one dunk contest. That's about it. Right. But I don't I don't really in Chris's. I had there to there's no. He hasn't lost a dunk contest. Definitely lost no series. Even though it's just a it's just a really it's just a really tough space for everyone because his output as well. The quality of his output. The quality of his output. And like I said, I think for me, his episode was really important because knowing him for so long and also seeing him and interviewing him as a grown man. Yeah. Knowing him as a 14, 15 year old, but then interviewing him in his 30s was like, wow. You know, this is real growth. Yep. And I'm just proud to see it and to talk to him about the accomplishment. So his episode was really special to me. I'm a go. Mitchell Jones and Carl Reed. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And bringing parks with him and bringing parks with him. Like my childhood heroes. Like there was John P. Key, Reverend John P. Key and there was commissioned. And that is that that is where I forged. Yeah. My my everything. Mitchell Jones was the man I wanted to be. Yeah. I want to sing just like Mitchell Jones. Yes. Like when we the groups I was in, we would fight to see who would be Mitch. I'm Mitch, you know, I'm Mitch. Like I'm Mitch. I do everything Mitch does. Like, come on, man. Like, let me be Mitch today. Like it was that. And like I cried during that episode. I don't think people knew that. Oh, I did. You did a great job of talking a lot. To keep the camera. I was to keep the camera off me. I was cooked. I was I was just overwhelmed. Yeah. I was like, man, these guys are I'm talking to these guys. I have a platform and I'm getting to just have this conversation with some guys I never ever thought as a kid that I would be in a room with not in that capacity. Yeah. I bought tickets to their concerts. You know what I'm saying? I've gone and seen them on stage. I've walked past them at like big gospel conventions like that. They'll commission. Yeah. That and I'm sitting down chopping it with them. You know what I'm saying? And and Mitchell like, man, you you an assassin, bro. You nice with it. Right. I'm nice with it. You mean that? I mean that. Hey, bro, you was really crying. I was cooked. He's crying. It's emotional. I was called Thomas. Commission, bro. I think in, you know, people come by. You count too many, but I want to merge. OK. Because I have so much respect for all four of these guys. OK. Her Lily, James Fountner Roy, John T. Austin and Sean Garrett. You said you can't do that. That's not. I know, but it's our show and I got to like, I got to take this moment. I got to take this moment because they were so much inspiration for me. And I don't even know if I've ever really told them that. Mm hmm. You know, obviously, when they were on the show, I'm telling them how much I, you know, I love and respect and appreciate it, how much they did for music and did for me and just watching them work. But the fact that I got a chance or even that and that we got a chance to really highlight the soundtracks to everybody's lives of the last 20, 25 years. Yeah. Because between those four guys as a songwriter, everything. Like people don't understand each one of their runs. And I feel like there is such unsung heroes in this whole thing of music, not just R&B music, but just in music in general, because. It's highlighted amongst the purists and the people who know music. But it's not like they're getting the the the adoration and in that type of. Respect just in the streets. Yeah, because most people don't even know. You know what I mean? Like I meant that when I said like Harold Lilly was my neighbor for 10 years. And just walking around while cooking up had never done an interview. Had never done, you know what I'm saying? And you don't know my name. And can can I take you out tonight and braid my hair and you know what I'm saying? Because her. He really never jumped out because he wasn't trying. You know, he never even attempted his artistry really from that standpoint. So you really never saw him. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like you are heard his name. You would hear James, you would hear John Tate, you would hear Sean because they were also artists. Yeah. Right. But those four, those episodes are really important for me to be able to give that platform to guys that I have so much love and respect for. And like I said, that I even though we're all around the same age, I look up to those guys is from their accomplishments and the things that they've done. So I know I cheated. You sure? I get it. But those four. Top 12. Yes. Yes. Well, we do that to everybody else. Who do I do to everybody else? Shit. Fuck it. So. Um, KC Haley. Ah, we got to sing harmony with KC. We sang harmony. We sang harmony. We sang, do you believe in love and the promise that it gives? I want to love you for life because your love is we sang that. Well, Mr. Oh, yeah. Mr. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Himself. You understand. Okay. Yeah. And I said that's a legendary moment. As we said commissioned. And John P. Key. I now introduce you to me falling in love with R&B music. Yeah. In two places where it starts with Jodesy and R. Kelly. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. I when I used to go to different churches and sing. They used to be like, you sound like a gospel Jodesy. Right. Right. Right. Because I was in that. And that was the biggest compliment you could possibly get. You couldn't tell me nothing. Right. Right. You couldn't tell me nothing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Is that what you heard? You heard that? Because that's what she's going for. Yeah, I'm glad you heard that. KC sitting right there. Yeah. Yeah. So you having my baby. And it means so much to me. There's nothing more precious than the raise of family. You. To sing to the first time I ever saw him was with Little Cedric and the Haley Singers. Right. At a church in Wisconsin. Running down the middle aisle singing quartet music, singing a face off, singing a liquor. Yeah. Game changer. Yeah. Game changer. Another one for me obviously would be and people that know me. Is if his baby face is it's LA. It's LaFace for me. So us being able to have both of them and give both of them their episodes. LA Reid, bro, it's just he's a wealth of knowledge. Yes. He understands and loves R&B music. You know what I mean? Even though he's done multiple genres of music, which he came on here and talked his talk and shit about the things that he signed and the things that he's, you know, helped become these artists and these, you know, become superstars. He is R&B music. Absolutely. Like LA and babyface are R&B music, just like, you know, Jimmy and Terry are R&B music. Right. And but I think having having those. Business conversations. We're really cool because I think those are the two sides of me. Right. As much as I love music, as much as I love music and as much as I, you know, I love the art of music. I love the business. I really do like figuring out ways to make the business make sense for myself and for other people. So to talk to somebody like like a LA Reid and for him to give his take on all of it. Man, that was mind blowing. And it took it's it took a minute to get him to, you know, to pull up because, you know, I think people at that level, they they already know some of the gripes that we talked about earlier. They know that it'll be judged in some a certain way. They know that it'll, you know what I mean? So they're like, why would I even? And I once again, I just I love that we've created this safe place for people that are in this industry and have done what what they've done in the game to say, you know what? I'm willing to go sit with them. Yeah. I want to talk to those guys. Yeah. Because it'll be different. It'll be different. It'll be different. So, you know, I really love this episode. Favorite episode. I love it. I love it. I love it. Yeah. Let's go. Our I Heart Radio Music Awards are coming back Thursday, March 26th. Live on Fox. 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Whether Spring has sprung in your neck of the woods yet or not, the Stuff You Should Know ThinkSpring playlist will make you want to get your overalls on, get outside and get your hands in the dirt. You can get the Stuff You Should Know ThinkSpring playlist on the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm a gold Smokey Robinson. Ah. Smokey Robinson, for me. Yeah, yeah. I've been screaming the authority of R&B since we started this show, right? And he is. For a long motherfucker. And he is. When Smokey Robinson walked in the door, the authority of R&B music set in that motherfucking chair. Yeah, he's the authority. Yeah. On all things R&B. Yeah. You can't tell me nothing else. When I scream, we are the authority on R&B music. We had Smokey Robinson sitting right there. Yeah. He signed the record in the front. Yeah. And we're going to pull up on him. We've been giving clearance to pull up on him and sit down with him. Yeah. And talk nuance on how to build an empire. From R&B motherfucking music. Yeah. For sure. I you can't you can't tell me nothing. Yeah, you can't tell me nothing. Listen, listen, I got to, you know, there's me right this down. There's a couple of people that, you know, I want to get who we looking forward to have on the pod. Let me write this down real quick. So I'm gonna say the name. I was jumped a gun and I don't want to jump the gun. Save my guns. All right. Well, that's only four from you and four for me. All right, it's 14 for me. But it's yeah, you like 87. So you got one more. Oh, favorite. My favorite, just, you know, one of my tops. Take a K. Michelle. Oh, that was a that was a incredible episode. Michelle, bro. Incredible. K. Michelle, her story. Yeah. Her drive. Mm hmm. Everything that she went through to get to the place that she's at. Just because I didn't know it. Mm hmm. You know what I mean? Because that's the other thing about me. I, you know, and you know, some people may look at this like, oh, you should do more research on this. I do do research, but I don't really like to watch other interviews before we interview people. Gotcha. I rather, you know what I mean? Like I rather have just real conversation than to be looking for discovery and discovery more so than, oh, yeah. So I heard you said I don't want to do that. So some things, if I don't really, really know a person personally, I won't know. And before we did that interview, I didn't know her personally like that. Right. And man, I was, I was blown away since I didn't really, I didn't know her as well. I didn't know the full story. Yeah. Or as much as the story she gave because I'm sure she got way more. Yeah. She got way more, but I just, her episode was lit, bro. Y'all doing sex in Atlanta. Come on now. It's freestyle. Oh, no. That, that shit was, that shit was super dope. And, and I just, I love Camichile from that day forward. I was like, oh, she's awesome. Yeah. Um, for my last one, I'ma go, I'ma go Snoop Dogg. The dog. His episode was so legendary. Snoop Dogg. Don't go nowhere for nobody. Right. Unless there's a bag. Yeah. He'll tell you that too. Right. Snoop Dogg is a business. Yes. Yes. Man. Yeah. Yeah. His dial-up is crazy. His, his memory is, bro. The history connected to that man. Man. Who to me and probably to you too, is the most recognized rapper in the world. Yes. Yes. The most wrecked, where I don't care where you go. I don't care what color you are. I don't care. No matter. What God you serve. You know Snoop Dogg. You know Snoop Dogg. You know Snoop Dogg. And then you're gonna want a picture. And you're gonna want a picture. No, it was. You might not even smoke weed. No. But you'll take a puff. Our cleaning lady. Our cleaning lady. Our cleaning lady. I've seen her a couple times. She barely speaks to you. She barely speaks to Joseph. She don't even fuck about the win-win. She win-win well. When though? She was standing in the corner waiting. And every time I turned she was looking like, it's time. You better introduce me. I want to meet the dog. I want to meet the dog. And so when I finally was like, you want me to snoop? She's like, yes, yes, yes, yes. Like immediately. Was not playing about meeting the dog. His business is just to me. His evolution in business and branding and building. Which is just something like you said to be steady. I don't think people are listening or watching him enough and applying. Like really listening to what he's doing. Like Snoop Dogg don't wear nobody clothes. Snoop Dogg wear Snoop Dogg clothes. Is Snoop Dogg sweatsuit? Is Snoop Dogg shoes? Is Snoop Dogg socks and draws? He's not smoking anybody else's weed. He's smoking Snoop Dogg weed. He's not drinking out of anybody else's cups. These are Snoop Dogg cups. I've never seen anything like that. I've never seen anything like it. No, no, not like that. Not like that. Not like that. He is walking business. Walking business. And then he got all the hit records that you want. And hit records. I just think that like for me, he is a he is a study guy for me. Oh, for sure. He is a study guy for us in business and and not like not saturating himself to the point to where I don't even think there's a thing of over saturation, right? But but being smart about the things he's connected to and how he uses them to always keep his fucking cool. Yeah. Keeps his cool, man. Even in contraven. Even still cool. Still cool. He's a dog. The dog father. Yeah, Snoop's episode was legendary. Who are you looking forward when we when we when we get back? When we get back up and running, who are you looking forward to having on the pod? I got I got a few names that I'm looking forward to. Jimmy Jam and Terry Louis. Oh, I hate you. OK, let me delete that. You can say you looking forward to them too. No, you said it all. No, OK. You said it already. Because you took some of my top fives, too. We need episodes. I took some of your head. You know, it's cool. Who else? I'm going to give you like four or five. Beyonce. Beyonce has to pull up, bro. You're going to delete that. You know I'm in the B half. You know I was going to say that. I know you are. You know I'm in the B half. Beyonce, you got you got to pull up, man. You know, come on. You know, I ran into your managers. I ain't going to say their names because everybody don't, you know, they don't be knowing who, you know, represent to be. You know what I'm saying? So I don't want to throw those guys names out like that. But you know, I ran into them after the Grammys and we talked. Did they say she's seen the episode? They didn't. I ain't going to lie on them. I didn't ask. I didn't ask, but they watched it. They were. They could. A lot of them are watching. They watched it. Some people close to her watching the episode. Got it. Got it. Sure. But you know, Beyonce and my other two and I close out with these two is I know I'm sorry. I'm going to go my five. You think? Do you think? Do you think? Um, Brandy and Joe. You know, my damn man. Okay. Brandy and Joe. Like, come on, man. And then my fifth curveball. I need Steph Curry to pull up. Wow. I need Steph to pull up. I like that. I need Steph to pull up, dog. I, you know, we need to talk about Super Bowl. I need to, I need to, hopefully you don't even remember it. I need to apologize to you. You don't even remember it. It happens. Here's the picture where it happened. I need, I need Deli to pull up, man. Yeah. You know what I mean? That's a good one. Yeah, man. You know what Mr. Pham calling Deli Bones, man. That's a good one. I need that. Pham, tell Deli Bones to pull up for us, man. I like that. Okay. All right. Well, here's mine. Took some of mine. Your restructure list, you let me go. Restructure, I had a lot of names on it. I had like a top 12. Deli Bones, you said. Keep sweat. Ah, the sweat. Yep. Yep. Because again, like the dogfather, business. Yeah. All the information. All the business. The music business, the stock market business. Yeah. Marketing business, movie business, business. Interior design. Interior design business. All marble every. All marble. Everything. Nelga. Yeah, we need this one. Ginny Wine. Gin, what? You know what? I'm like, listen, you know, in due time. The wine is coming. We need the wine. We'll get the wine. Devante swing. Ah, yeah. I gotta have my other father on here. You do claim that's your father. What's that? He's your musical father. He's your musical father. I get it. What's that? What's that? He owes me a... Yeah, he missed a lot of years. So he owes me child support. I'll take it in sounds. Give me some... All the Joda C sounds you can give me. Devante. And at last, but not even least, Diana Ross. Oh, that would be amazing. That would be amazing. I'm a crown of them. Yeah. I can see you crown of them. I'm a crown of them. Yeah. She just... She just represents something so out of this world. Yeah. It's just... I don't want to do five. Forget that. I want also... Uncle Charlie. Uncle Charlie. Jasmine Sullivan. You know how much I love Jasmine Sullivan. I love Jasmine Sullivan. Absolutely. Southern Walker. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We put in the press on. Yeah, man. Come season four. We put in the press. Come get these flowers. Usher. Usher, come get these flowers. Dreams. Tricky store. Come get these flowers, man. Rainy store. Oh, dude. Raphael Sadiq. Raphael Sadiq. Oh, my God. Come on, bro. D'Angelo. Damn it. You want to fuck? Faith Evans. Oh, God. Faith Evans. My God. Come on, season. I know you watched the show, season. No, no, don't play. I know you've seen some clips. I know you've seen some clips. You might have even watched the full episode. Come on, now. Hmm? All right, okay. You good? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not, but... I'm going to stop there, because once I said Dianna Ross, I can't say no more now. You said Beyonce, I said Dianna Rock. I think we... We'll get that, please. We maxed. I might not do no more pods. Dianna, come on. I'm talking in here. Y'all come looking for me, man. Dianna was here. How about that? Mm-hmm. Die happy. Let's do something. Let's do something fun, man. Let's do something so serious. All right, well... Let's do... Let's do a I Ain't Saying No Names. We always make other people do I Ain't Saying No Names. Well, listen, actually, I did a I Ain't Saying No Names. You've never done an I Ain't Saying No Names. I think that that's besides the point. What we're saying right now is on our closeout episode, 150 episodes, Jay needs to do I Ain't Saying No Names. I'll do I Ain't Saying No Names, too. You know what I'm saying? This episode deserves that. Okay, am I... I'm going first. You're up. Somebody tell a story. Okay. Funny, are fucked up. Are funny, and fucked up. I just ain't about to say no names. So, years ago, there was a certain young R&B diva who... I had known him passing, and there was an athlete home of your mind. That was, you know, that was my dog. And one night, we was out, and, you know, we were being responsible. So, we had taken a car service, you know, from his crib, and then I was going to take another car service, from his crib to my crib, right? Like, you know, he's going to do that. Actually, I'm sorry. It was going to drop him off and then drop me off. Take me to my house, right? But as we were approaching his house, he goes, Hey bro, come to the crib for like, like 15 minutes. I'm like, What? I think I'm going home. We like, no, no, no, no. Something about to pull up. So I'm like, here we go. Right. And, you know, I decide, I'm like, all right. You know, being niggas, being young niggas, this is years ago. I'm like, I need to see what he got pulling up, right? Because we all go through this, through the athletes, get them, through the R&B niggas, get them. Yeah, yeah. Do we both know him? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. So he's not giving me a full heads up. He's just saying, I need to stay. So I'm like, all right, cool. Not five minutes later, the doorbell rings. Like, I'll be right back. Never that smile. I'm like, oh, shoot. So he proceeds to walk back in with a young lady that knew me. Not personally like that, but we knew each other. And it's three in the morning. Amen. Amen. And she's walking into said athlete's house. And when she sees me, it's like she sees a ghost. Even though we had, you know, we had no history. Of course. I put that out there. Yeah. We had no history, but, you know, walking into a house at three in the morning, after the club, it's tough to see somebody, you know, in that house. So she's like, hey, Jay. Right. We have that moment. Mm-hmm. We laugh it off. She knows what it is. I know what it is. I'm like, hey, y'all, I got to go. Come on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Literally that interaction. Now, the story gets a little deeper. Hmm. Athlete. Because at the time I'm living back and forth in LA and San Francisco, I got spot in both. And now I'm in San Francisco about a week later. The homie hit me. They're playing one of the. Barrier team. So that's like, yeah. They're playing one of the Barrier teams. And he's like, bro, let's go out in the Bay. Let's, you know, let's what's popping. I'm like, well, in San Francisco, it's usually only one spot on this night. He like, oh, we there. Mm-hmm. Hit the DJ. I don't ask who else might be there. Who could be hosting the club? Any of those things. Yeah. We get to the club. And as we're walking in. Who do we see? Same R&B diva. But this time she's in the club with her R&B boyfriend. And, um, I'm like, oh, shit, this is really interesting, because I don't think she was singed last week, when she was going into this man's house. This is really interesting. Because I don't think she was single last week. But, oh man. When she was going into this man's house. And um, but, I don't know her boyfriend like that. It's not a guy I really know. To this day I don't really know him. Right? It's not, I just, you know, I don't. It's another guy in the industry. Yeah. And I called him her R&B boyfriend, but he was more of industry boyfriend. Right? That may have done some R&B, may have done some pop, may have done some, I don't know. Right? Yeah. And um, I'm like, this is crazy. And I see them kind of catch a little eye contact. But act as if they don't know each other. Even a player, even a player. But what is, what is the, the, the, the, the club promoter wants to do? He wants to put R table right next to theirs. Why not? Why not? Let's make it interesting. Because that's what you do. The club promoter doesn't know. He's like, oh, I got the R&B in the house I got the. But the universe has the women doing things. And I got Jay Valentine from the city. He up in here. We up in here. The star priority. Put it on again. Yeah. Yeah. The homie leans over and says, look at this text. We hadn't been in the club. Two minutes. No, sir. R&B diva is apologizing in the text. Within two minutes of us, we might definitely ain't no bottles game. I'm not sure if we've even fully set out. I'm so sorry. I didn't know you were going to be out here. This looks crazy. I'd rather be with you. I'm like, oh, this is the baby. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And yeah, and we partied and laughed. And I'll never forget it. I'll never forget it, man. It was a very interesting, very interesting time. Every time I see this young lady. Because every now and then I see her. Every now and then I see her. And we kind of both just laugh. Because she didn't end up with either one of them. But you know. That's the world turn. I ain't saying no. I ain't saying no. I ain't saying no. That's good. Yeah. Oh, that's how it can sum up out here. Man. Quickly. Yeah. Yeah. Because it's really small. But it's not. But it's not. It is. It's not. If you have any type of motion, then the places you're going to end up are places where people who have motion are going to be. This is what I've always told every woman I've ever dated. Just tell me. Because I know everybody. Yeah. Just tell me. Yeah. Give me the answer. Don't think because they were generations before I was in the game that I ain't ran into this guy or don't know this guy. Gotcha. And don't have me in them rooms like that. Gotcha. Just because I ain't tripping. Once you tell me, it's oh, she was wild. Cool. You lived your life. But don't put me in a position where I'm in that room. And I don't know. And it's Texas being exchanged. Even if y'all not still dealing with each other, but just nigga sending me an extra bottle of Asus Bay. I see you playing. No nigga. Don't let me drink. Don't let me drink. No champagne. From a nigga that used to pour champagne on you. Oh man. Don't let me drink champagne from a nigga who used to pour champagne on you. That's all I ask. That is a great rule. That's all I ask. That's all I ask. That's all I ask. That's all I ask. That's it. That's it. But yes. Oh, that's a good one. That's all. That really happened in real life. Okay, I'm gonna do one. I can't. I'm not gonna go that way. I'm gonna go differently. That was great. My humor is dark. Yeah, you just. So, so I'm a young kid and I get signed as a kid to this label. And everything about the guy who owned that label. The conversation was very like, you know, this is like, this is a black man, you know what I'm saying? And it's like, in a sense like the ultimate black man, you know what I mean? It's what I feel like I'm looking at, you know what I'm saying? Like, just from a success standpoint and the people he was involved with, I'm like, and just the conversation about brotherhood, brothers are sticking together and looking out for each other, all these things, right? I'm like, okay, all this sounds great. I want to be down, you know what I'm saying? I'm with some other guys that have brought me to this guy. I'm like, yeah, let's put it all together. So you know, we fly out to New York to do a couple meetings, you know, with said executive. And while we're doing while we're meeting, going to meet him, he's like, you guys come with me to a meeting with this company that I have partnership with. I got a few partnership who come to me with this meeting, you guys can sit in and see, you know, how all this goes. Cool. All right. Okay. I'm like, I'm rolling. And so we get into this meeting, sitting at this, this, this big meeting at this big record company. And we're talking about a soundtrack, a soundtrack in which this executive has multiple artists and multiple songs on, on the soundtrack. Some of the biggest artists in the game at that moment. And while we're sitting there, they're talking about singles for the soundtrack. What songs are we going to do singles for? And as they're announcing the singles, as they get to one, two and three, at no point have they said any of the artists and songs that the executive that I was there with brought to the table. Now, mind you, just to give you some context, they called this executive guy, one with, to bring these artists in this music to help elevate the soundtrack. And then in turn, didn't make any of those records. The singles. The singles. Now, mind you, I've been in meetings where there's been, you know, disagreements. Yeah. And dust ups. Of course, I've been in it, but this is my intro into the music business. You know, and I'm thinking, OK, we're in this space where I guess if there's some to any type of disagreement, they'll, in a very business way, have this conversation. And so the executive that I'm with proceeds to ask the question and says, so who made the decision on these singles? And, you know, one guy at the head of the table, very, very matter of fact, Lee and very boss, he says, I made the decision. And the executive that I was with proceeds to say, well, don't you think that was a dumb motherfucking decision? And what is going on? He said, what do you mean? What the fuck do you think I mean? You motherfuckers dragged me all the way over here to elevate your shit. That wasn't about shit. Bring you my motherfucking multi million record selling artist just so you could pull some bullshit like me. You motherfucking crackers ain't ever going to get this shit off while I'm alive. I'm like, you say cracker. Ah, shit. And proceeds to lay into the entire table and staff of this record company like they were children. Then says, matter of fact, I don't even want to talk to you motherfuckers no more. You motherfuckers is no bodies. I'm going upstairs to see the motherfucker that pays you. Bitch motherfucker that. Wow. I'm sitting like this. Yeah. What's your respect on that? Respect. Um, needless to say, singles were number one, two and three. On that soundtrack. And I don't recommend you do this in a meeting where you disagree. I don't recommend this. He was he was one. He's one of one. But it worked. It worked. I don't recommend the name calling. I don't recommend the. I don't recommend the abuse of any means. People were concerned for their lives in this meeting and the singles changed. And they probably should have. Yeah. I will never ever. That was my intro to the music business. Wow. My first music business meeting at a level. That was it. Aren't those aren't those those meetings there? They they interesting, ain't they back then? Yeah. Back then in those days, and this is this is late 90s for me when I first, you know, got into a meeting like that. Yeah. You could really get fucked up out here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They didn't used to have security. At labels. I mean, thanks to your dad. Every label. Thanks to your father. Every label has security after my father. I remember coming back to LA. I'm like, wait, so we just don't walk up no more. No, sir. No, sir. No, sir. Matter of fact, arms. You wait. Especially you. We have some people need to talk to you. Oh, man, you know, it's all part of the process. It's part of the process, man. And I don't recommend that either. I don't remember going that route. But I do say you have to if you believe in something, you have to fight for what you believe in. Yes. Not with violence, but, you know, with information and truly being able to, like you said earlier, just articulate. Yep. If you can articulate what these records really mean and the impact that you believe that they'll have, I think you should. I think you should stand on who you are. Who you are and your opinion. Yep. Stand on your opinion. Yeah. And be willing to deal with whatever repercussions that is because if it fails, yes, your ass, it is. And you may not get that opportunity again. That's right. But if you believe it's going to be successful, I personally believe that you should fight for that. And not just accept a motherfucker telling you, yeah, I said that. Like, why did you say that? And they should be able to tell you why they said that, why they think that it won't work. Yep. But I'm glad it worked. I'm glad it worked, too. I'm glad it worked. I'm glad. So I was there and I was there. I guess I was going to, by default, go down with the shield. Oh, for sure. For sure. Everybody in here. I just got here. I didn't know he was going to say that. Didn't matter. Didn't matter. How about as we close out this 150, how about some thank yous, man? Yeah, yeah. Some thank yous, some shout outs. Yeah. Let's start with our team. With our team, man, with Ruben, Jacob, Tiki. Absolutely. Bow Dozier. Bow Dozier. You know what I'm saying? Like, we know Bow work for Black Effect, you know, but Bow is our guy. He's our guy. Without these guys, we'd be on Instagram Live doing this far. That's where it started. That's where it started. That's where it started. We still be there. How do we get a name though? We got a name. Because that's before you could add multiple people too. Yeah. Yeah. That's where you get. Yeah. That's where it started. Now we, you know. And shout, like I said, once again, shout out to Jamie Foxx. Yep. Shout out to Jamie Foxx, man, for pulling up and kicking it off with us. Problem. Oh, man. Nick Young. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Rock it. Yeah. I mean, like, just that pulled up early in the beginning. Super, super early. And we just like, nigga, I'm, come on. Hell yeah. Episode. I come talk to you. Episodes we played to get our deal. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Jamie Foxx was clearly the, the, the, um, it closed the case. Yeah. It wasn't nothing to talk about after that. But these guys, you know, Problem and Nick and all of them, they pulled up when it was just like, nigga, let's get it. Right. You know, my niggas, let's do this. Yeah. Yeah. Um. But now shout out to I Heart. I Heart. Yeah. Shout out to Doc Winter. Doc. Shout out to someone who really had no skin in the game, no, no dog in the fight of it at all. Wasn't a part of it technically that just literally cussed everybody out about us early on. Julia Jones. Absolutely. Absolutely. Who was not, listen, if it, if it, if she knew that it came across your desk, she like, why the fuck? That's right. Y'all ain't in business with R&B money. That's right. So shout out to Julia, that's our sister. She's fought for us along the way, even from the music side. That's right. But this podcast don't exist in this forum without her. Absolutely. But yeah, everybody at I Heart, everybody at Black Effect, everybody at Black Effect who, Charlamagne, who, who told them they wanted to be a part of what we were doing. Absolutely. You know what I mean? Charlamagne, Dolly, they whole team over there, man. Like they, they've been great for us and they've been great partners with us, man. And I'm super appreciative of them. Shit, man. And, and all the R&B money, viewers and followers and fans and family to the podcast and the label that literally the subscribers, the people that literally have notifications on. Yeah. That are waiting for our new episodes every week. Anybody screaming R&B money in the airport. Oh my God. In the mall at the Chipotle. Oh, y'all man. Like y'all don't, y'all don't know. Trying to watch my son basketball game, R&B money. I'm on the flames. We just dead though. The, the, the flight attendants. Like, like you guys don't know how good that makes us. That shit is super cool, man. That's really, really cool. But yeah, and just, just shout out and shout out to, shout out to the people that literally make their own clips. Post them, have, you know, literally just spread the word. We are not mad at you. We love that. Appreciate it. You know what I mean? And I try to get to as many of them as possible to repost it or to, you know, just even just say thank you. And I mean, right now I just want to say thank you to, you know, the people who literally and, and the people who are in the comment sections talking shit. Yeah. I still appreciate y'all because that means that you're engaged. Yep. I'm not going to always agree, but I appreciate that they're that engaged and that they're passionate. And, you know, they be like, why don't y'all try? And then sometimes I'll be like, why don't you get your own show? But you know. I ain't got to get your own girl. But then there's certain things I'm like, oh, that's actually cool. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe, maybe we will, you know, put that into the show or figure out a way to, you know, to touch on those subjects and maybe I, you know, I will let Tank be more of a music nerd because y'all be wanting to music nerd shit, man. And I won't be like, I think we don't want to hear about the S.P. 12 niggas. All right, put that violin down. Put that violin down, man. And you know what? I got to say thank you, Jay. Thank you, brother Valentine. Yeah. Thank you to my brother, man. Thank you, dawg. You know what I'm saying? Thank you for showing up. Yeah, we got to do this. I know you don't want to do this shit all the time. I'm not doing this shit. You're like a superstar. Like, yo, like I'm just me. You got shows you need to do after this. This is way easier to do. This is cool. Let's get to sit down and talk to you. You know I'm a talker. I'm a yapper. So this works out perfect for me. But I think just, you know, our chemistry and just, just what we're able to do. It shows in this space. Our brotherhood shows in this space. Yeah. The what we believe in our unified goal. And then just the sauce, man. We do all the podcasters that can, that really active in the space. Nigga, we had a number one single on radio. Yeah. As a full pod, nigga. Yeah. Yeah, us. Performance, nigga. Soul train. I like to say. Yeah. I want to keep doing the show. Yeah. I want to grow from it, not being a podcast. I would like to continue the skill. I wanted to be the R&B Money Show. Love that. Yeah. Right. Because yes, it is conversation, but now that we are adding performances. Talk to them. And, you know, we're adding more information from all sides. You know what I mean? Like this week in R&B is coming. It's coming. Talk to them. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. You know, other, other, other things that other content pieces that in the space, we're creating more things than purely a podcast. Without podcast, I'm not one of those people who thinks that the word is, oh, don't, don't call it a podcast. No, I just think that for us. It's time to elevate the show. I love it. It's time to elevate the show. And I know you want to do skit to the shit. We got to have fun, baby. We got to have fun. We need a place where our people, our artists, can show their personality, man. Yeah. You know what I mean? We got the music. We got the, we got whatever movie, whatever TV show that is. We got whoever you play for, whatever team. We got that. Now, let's get all that back and just have a good time. Have some fun. Yeah. So, the Harvey Moneys show. Things are happening. Yeah. Things are happening. In the universe. They're developing, man. Yeah. You know, right before your eyes, baby. So, don't blink, man. Okay. 150. 150, bro. Shit. That's crazy. 150. That's crazy. We did that. Yeah. We did 150. And you guys have watched 150 episodes, hopefully, of the Harvey Moneys. If you have not, go and catch up before season four starts. Go catch up. You don't want to miss anything. And then you'll be able to see the progression that ultimately becomes season four. And you don't want to miss that. I want to say one more thing before we close out. Congratulations. What I do. Yeah. You know. You are a Broadway actor now. People got to talk to me different now, man. You know. You know. You know. You know, you hear those kitchen man. And you know, you know, the, you know, shout out to, you know, Alicia Kates. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, she called. You know, she, you know. You talk to her. You know, I say no based on that. You know what I'm saying? She employs a nigga. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Shout out to Swiss who reached out immediately and sent the love and sent the whatever you need, King. You know how Swiss is, whatever you need. Yeah. And you know me, I'm a guy of very low maintenance, man. I just want to do the work. And so I'm very excited about getting into that space and cooking. And being part of something really, really great. Yeah. I think that's the natural progression. Yeah. You know, honestly, I, you know, I think you're a great actor. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. You didn't say Junior Junior, baby. Dude, Junior Junior. At least on the BET. You didn't. And listen, BTTV1. Denzi, that's me. You him. You him. Yeah, I'm him. Come on, man. Can't tell me nothing. They tried to kill my wife. Okay. That might not get you know. Okay. So make sure y'all catch my brother. Hail's Kitchen. Yes. Broadway. Yes. This is, this is a different level of acting and of commitment. Yeah. I commend you for that, bro. Yes, sir. Because it's tough to take that type of leap. Yeah. To say, you know what? This is what I'm about to focus on. And this is what I need to do to elevate my career in places that I feel I haven't just yet. You know what I mean? Like, the R&B star going and doing Broadway just out of nowhere. It's amazing, bro. So, super excited for you. At a height and at a real sacrifice. And for me, it was just like, what do you want out of this? Yeah. What do you want out of this? Nah, you're going to do it then. For me, I don't want nothing easy. Yeah. And this is, I want to take the stairs. And these are real stairs. Yeah. So. So y'all don't be in my DMs, in my comments, bothering me about where the new episode. Because my brother about to be on Broadway. By the time this come out, he's on Broadway. So, leave me alone. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to figure out some more shit to talk shit to y'all. But leave me alone about that. We got more shit. Yeah. We can R&B. Yeah. We'll be rocking and rolling. So, we got more shit. And then maybe I'll FaceTime in here and there. Yeah, on the show. Yeah, yeah. But you know, you got to go be on Broadway. Yeah, that's super cool. Because I ain't never really had no homies on Broadway. So, this is my first homie on Broadway like that. Congratulations. Thank you, brother. My name is Tank. I'm Jay Valentine. And this has been 150 episodes. Of cool shit. Of cool shit. Of cool shit, bro. Cool shit. We've done really cool shit. No clickbait. No bait. Good times. Good times. More flowers to be given. More flowers to come. Thank you guys for staying with us. And on the move. We are the authorities on all things R&B. R&B, my. Yeah. Let's go. Our iHeartRadio Music Awards are coming back. Thursday, March 26th. Live on Fox. Watch as we honor the biggest stars from all genres of music that you loved listening to all year long on your favorite iHeart radio station and the iHeart Radio app. Hosted by Ludacris. Icon Award recipient John Mellencamp. Innovator Award recipient Miley Cyrus. With performances by Alex Warren, Kailani. Lainey Wilson. Ludacris. Ray. 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