Amanda Batula & West Wilson Scandal Deep Dive

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It has been welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome to Ilyria. It's been quite the week. And although we didn't have an episode on Wednesday when the Amanda and Wes joint statement dropped, we have had way more come out. So I'm actually glad that we can summarize the entire thing today because so many more details have come out. Kyle had been stopped on the street. We have all that. We're going to get into everything. But first, just want to give a big thank you to the crowd in Boston who showed up and showed out because we had such an amazing show as always in Boston. It was really so much fun. And Ariel Kebbell, top tier guest, top tier. She really was amazing. And she just gave us that Friday energy going into the weekend. Make sure you guys are feeling good this weekend. Maybe you want to hit a little workout, presented by Planet Fitness. Get that Friday energy flowing in you. Highly recommend. It'll make you feel great. And we felt great leaving Boston. We felt great in Boston. It was so much fun. We did the Wilbur, which we had never done before. Really cool theater, which was cool. Really cool theater, which was cool. I can't tell us how cool it was. Can't blow it twice like that. Just throw in a gruel. It was gruel. Can't believe how cool it was, guys. But no, it was. We always stay kind of in the same area. And it is close to some theaters and stuff. So it's just, it's fun. It's easy. I love Boston. When we got there, we had such a nice day. It was still, it was kind of some nice temperatures. Walk around Newberry Street shop a little bit. It's gorgeous. Spring is just on the cusp up there. Came back to New York. The trees are starting to flower and all those things. It feels a little more spring here. Boston's probably a weaker two behind us, but they're just, they're just right there. They are. They're right there. Speaking of the shows, though, Trent will be our guest in Minneapolis, closing out the tour with our white elephant. Yeah. With the one we know best and we haven't seen him in a little bit. And what's the big guest? White whale. Our white whale. White whale. I said white elephant. And I said, that's Trent. No. Yeah. White whale. He will be joining us and it's going to be so much fun. Just we have a lot to catch up on with Trent. But seeing him. When was the last time we saw him? I'm drawing a blank. I'm no joke. I think the last time I saw Trent was when we walked across the city with for Noah's. Oh, and I wasn't there. Yeah. He did. He didn't do a fall show. A fall show. No. And he didn't. Didn't do our Christmas show. No, he didn't do our Christmas show. He couldn't make it. Is it possible? I haven't seen him since our Christmas show at the end of 2024. No, no. You saw him in June in a gun quit. Oh, yes. When he, here's the thing about Trent. He always brings something to the live show. He FaceTime Noah Khan during our last. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes. Yeah, right. The last time he was a guest on a live show. Yeah, bring something good. Yeah. And he, he, we didn't even ask him to do that. He was like, I have no account. He had a prep. Yeah. So maybe he'll FaceTime him again. I have no account on the line. Yes. Ready to go. Ready to go. So that's super exciting. But yeah, Boston has a freaking blast, like usual. Maybe we'll dip in some of that golf. Should we ask them why are there, why they're covering up Tiger Woods DUI on four play? Yeah. Buy tickets to Minneapolis. So you have to find out more about what's going on behind the scenes of four play. Yep. Okay. Yep. But throughout all of this, the big topic was everyone wanting to know about Amanda and West. Now here's the thing. I haven't been able to sleep. If you don't watch summer house, you might be confused about who these people are. Yeah. We will give you the full rundown. And I think even if you haven't watched summer house at this point, somewhere turning, yeah, like, listen, Dave, he was all of a sudden locked into this drama because he had tweeted that. Breanna told him the Super Bowl and was like, this is all news. Yon. And everyone was like, wait a second. He then texted Fran and I was like, wait, is me saying that I knew the Super Bowl big deal and we were like extremely. Cause you were like, am I providing important information? Yeah, you are. You are now providing a timeline that people did not know about. Yeah. There was no timeline. And then everything was rumored. No, you're speaking in cold. Our fact that Brie told you at the Super Bowl February and Bree's like dementia. Dave, put your phone down like this is enough. So we were going back and forth with Dave because he was asking us so many details about the show and he was like, wait, these people are married. And by the way, he kept calling it a time share, which was time share in the Hamptons. Really, really cracking me up. So that was, that was a funny little tidbit of like, I sent him like a rundown of basically how I can explain these people's relationships. In his video, he's like, you know, Sierra's crying to a man. I'm like, oh my God, this is literally what I. Now trying to give people a rundown of what he knows had happened. It is something that we are very aware of with him, that you do have to know that if you are going to text him something, there is a chance he will read or post exactly what you said. Hey man, he's screenshotting everyone's messages these days. When I clicked his story and I saw our group chat, I was like, dude, but no, you have to be, you gotta be aware. You just gotta be aware. So we were like, okay, we're going to, we'll fill him in and know that he may read this word for word basically to everybody. And he's found himself in the, in the middle of this situation, which I don't think he thought was going to happen when he sent out that tweet. I don't think he thought it was going to be such a big deal. And it was, he made multiple videos. Now he's ready to like make it a whole series. He texted us. He's like, he's like gossip day. No, literally he's like, I'm going to like do beach gossip. You guys might like have to tell me what's going on. We're like, well, we'll be your source. There's a couple, there's, there's a lot of reasons, reasons I think for that. You know, I think he potentially misses gossiping a little bit on BFFs. I think he misses getting off his takes on, on the pop culture world. And he's gone full Jimmy Buffett in the keys. Don't mention his looks. Yeah. Don't mention, I know I know. He's not going to do the beach concerts and the hair, the beard. So, you know, I won't say that he's living like Tom Hanks and Castaway. Don't say it. I didn't say it. I don't, I didn't say that he won't say that that's what he looks like. No, don't. But I think, you know, he's, it's like, it's getting everybody talking and everybody was like, why is Dave in the middle of this? Mm-hmm. And he, you know, he had the, he, what's funny is, he didn't even know he was sitting on this for two months. Like he thought he's been sitting on this for two months. He had no one to tell. And now he's like, oh my God, I've known this for two months. Yeah, I was texting with Bree about weird. I was like cracking up. I was like, oh my God, he's now just throwing your name out with other things as well. He was like, Alex, Bree told me Alex, you're on Tom radio dating. And then Bree's commenting on the video, like they are not dating. Stop, stop, put your phone down. It was, it was really a funny little wrinkle in this, but we are going to get into the rest of the show. And we're really going to do a full breakdown of their statement, what Kyle has said, more details that have been revealed on TMZ and the whole thing. So we'll talk about that. We'll talk about this new, very highly suspicious, unwell winter games cast, which I roll at. Olivia Rodrigo's new album is coming out June 12. We finally got a date. Super excited about that. And then a producer that worked on The Bachelor is releasing a book, a tell all. And I think Peter Weber may be a little bit involved. And I don't think he's happy about it. You know what? You'll always find him at the heart of it. Pilot Pete at the center. At the center, just when you think things get quiet for good old pilot Pete, he's just trying to fly his planes with his brother. He's just trying to live his life. And they're like, bam, potential love situation, potential trust with a producer. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, little rendezvous. And we have a great game of trivia. So let's get into it. 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Now we're gonna join statement with Wes. Too many ways. All of a sudden, they've become a we. And now everyone's spiraling. When the fuck did they become a we? This has really jumped. We thought maybe they just kissed. Now they're releasing a word salad mumbo jumbo statement of actually, what the fuck did they even say in the statement? Because it wasn't very clear. They actually really said nothing. They really said nothing and a lot at the same time. Yeah, it's a lot of words that really summarize to we don't really know what we are or what we're doing. And that's really, that was kind of the whole statement. I'll read. We've seen the growing online speculation. So while this is still very new, we wanted to provide some clarity. They forgot I didn't know clarity. It was never our attention to purposely hide anything. Given the complicated relationship dynamics evolved and the screening that comes with being on a reality show, we needed a little space to process things privately before speaking on it. We've shown up for each other as friends over the years through all the highs and lows. And what's developed recently was the last thing either of us expected. Our connection grew out of a genuine longstanding friendship which made it especially important for us to approach this with care. As our feelings evolved, we wanted to take time to understand exactly what we were feeling. We also recognized that this has an impact beyond just us and never wanted our actions to cause any hurt or be perceived as careless. We truly appreciate the understanding and respect as we navigate this. Nowhere in this statement is like maybe you're acknowledging the people that you're hurting people, but maybe like we're so sorry to the people. We hurt with our careless actions or anything of the sort. There was no names that were thrown out like Amanda, Wes, Yara, Kyle, like the four names involved. None were thrown into that statement. It also was a statement that didn't really clarify anything of are they dating, did they just hook up? They didn't really give much context. And then I don't think they know. I don't think they know and I think, it's very clear, we talked about this on Monday, if you didn't hear our episode on Monday, but our stance was very clear on this, that Amanda doing this to Sierra, who has been so open about her feelings, is an act of betrayal. Like crossing that line with your girlfriend is... I know, and I know people are saying, hey look, this, you know, you better be in love, this better be true fucking love. Cause then I was like, okay, I guess, but it does not from the outside perceived to be that way. Yet, I don't know, maybe, maybe if they get through this, getting through this shit storm is going to be extremely hard for both of them to be able to have a successful relationship afterwards. I think you need to have like a really already super deep foundation and love for each other that you are aware of and are clear and share with each other in order to get through something like this. Yeah, they gotta weather the storm together. Yeah, which I don't know if that is the case. Right. I hope it is, like I hope us is there for Amanda right now. I hope like, it's like, hey, you guys did this to each other, like you guys did this to everybody else, so you better at least stand behind each other. Right. Cause if you crumble this quickly and you're already out, then it's like you lost friendships, you lost each other. It's all for naught. And that's exactly, it's a situation you're in. We were talking about it, to me, look, it says all I need to know. And I know there's like the pylon on Amanda and that's been talked about a lot in the last day or so as well. And it's like, okay, Sierra's feelings are at the front of this for everybody and that should be the case. Like, I'm sorry, right now Amanda's feelings aren't afterthought to me in this situation. I hear what people like, we'll talk about Kyle who's caught on the street, had the whole video he's really concerned about Amanda and her mental health, which is so valid. And that, you know, it breaks my heart that she is getting like death threats over this. We are commenting on the social dynamic of doing something like this, not sending her messages directly, not, you know, cyber bullying is what the term Kyle used, but it's like, we're the attacks on this person directly to them. It's just so crazy because everybody, you know, we commentate on reality TV and that's, it's what everybody does on reality TV or on reality TV show. People are gonna comment on your life and your choices. For us, it's like, we had this conversation where no matter what, I don't care if there's a flirt here or a flirt there. Somebody that my best friend or one of my best friends has hooked up with and had serious feelings for, off limits. Never crossing the line. Off limits. Off limits. Immediately. Immediately. It's not even a thought to, that's why I don't understand. And I said this at our live show. I can empathize with somebody falling in love unconventionally, obviously, but I cannot empathize with fucking one of your best girlfriends' man. That is just off the table. It's off limits. X's, anybody. That is just a no go for one of your good girlfriends. I just can't imagine. I can't imagine that. So I think in what you were saying, 100% true. And I think any normal person can see that where it's like, yeah, people are on reality TV that put their life out there. Can talk about it on podcasts. Can talk about it on your forums online, Reddit threads, whatever it is, or gossip with your friends, your group chats. Yeah, put it in the group chat. Put it in the group chat. Talk with your friends about it. Do not send threats to the people that are involved because that is obviously crossing a line that should be known by now. Like any normal person knows that that is crossing a line. But obviously people get so attached in a way that they feel like it is happening to them directly. And then it spreads that. So putting that aside, because that we all should know, we're gonna talk about the situation because it's on reality TV and they put their lives out there and that's like to be expected obviously besides what we just talked about. This situation, like saying that we didn't intend to hide anything, you did. You were hiding it. And you did intend to hide it. And just be like, we intended to hide it. Because we thought we were protecting everybody's feelings. That was wrong. Right, you could say, yeah, we were hiding it because we knew that maybe this wasn't the best thing, which is wrong. And if they were like getting- Right, just people are transparent, be more honest. If they were getting- Just kind of all out there. Yeah, if they were getting like hard eyes for each other and stuff, like, you know, you gotta sit Sarah and Kyle down and be like, listen, I don't know what's happening here. And then be okay with the fact that you're gonna lose some friends with that. So this situation, now on top of that, Amanda and West aside, it is now coming out that West is fucking all of Manhattan, Montana, Chicago, every state, allegedly. Yeah, I mean, this man got a girl in every area. Yeah, I know. It's insane. It really is a headscratcher because while none of that is confirmed, it's like seeing him put out a joint statement with Amanda and then have page six, Dumois, like all these outlets basically say that he has been dating other people. And granted, he and Amanda like may not be exclusive. I don't know. They don't, like, it's not like they came out and said we're boyfriend and girlfriend. Now, there are other sources, I'm putting in quotes because everybody has a source in this situation and every fan account's pointing, like posting messages. My sister's Botox person knows Amanda's PR lately. It's like crazy the connections that are being thrown out there. But there's people being like, people, there's people being like, oh, they're in love. Like, this is the real deal for them. You're like, okay, show us that then. You know, if that's the case, then you're good and roll with it. And I just don't know if that's gonna be the case because we're now getting... Other sources are saying it's not like, oh, hey, I was in an elevator with him on St. Patrick's Day. He was with some brunette, like getting off of the floor. He's, there's, so I saw one thing that was like, he introduced Amanda to his family, St. Patrick's Day weekend. I was like, that guy was in Chicago, St. Patrick's Day weekend, like out with friends. And he had been apparently on and off exclusive with this woman, Miha, who was originally from Montana, I believe, and she moved. And apparently this is like just a lot of hearsay and you know, sent it to Tumon, other, you know, Instagrams that they had this on and off relationship where Wes would apparently be like, oh, I'm just with other people for, you know, the publicity, like really you're my number one girl. But I'm with other people. And then apparently when he started dating Sierra, that was part of it, that like he was still seeing other people and Sierra was like, no, that's not gonna happen. Then there were reports that Wes and Sierra had been rekindling a little romance in the past couple of weeks. And here's the thing, like Sierra could not have been more clear on this show, the boundaries that she has. And then most recently opening up on the show of the backlash and, you know, things that come her way, dating white guys on reality TV. And there are things that we will never understand, you know, that she says being in her shoes is like when this commentary comes her way. So like- Which just makes it extra careless from a man, I think. Yeah, it's like truly, I think it's just extra careless. Listening to all these conversations. And all the timelines are so blurred right now. People are watching these episodes back of them and they're, you know, lingering touch and things there. Like, did it go back to the summer? Did it not? When did it start? I don't know. Is there flirtations here or there? And I just can't imagine. And I really hope it's not the case that Sierra's opening up about this, having these conversations in the summer, going through all these feelings, and like Amanda and Wes are giving each other googly eyes across the table. And just how Kyle mentioned Amanda's mental health, because obviously, as we've stated many times now, sending somebody death threats and going not far is not okay. Sierra has also been extremely open about her mental health. And can you imagine how this is affecting her? Like losing friendships and all of that as well, is also probably taking a large toll on her mental health too. So I just feel like there's so many layers to this. And on top of that, like, you know, a lot of this, the conversation was falling on like, yes, Amanda betrayed one of her best girls. And like, that is not okay. But now on top of that, Wes playing multiple different women at the same time, adds a whole other layer to this, that I think when we find out more, I'm just getting a sense that we're gonna be even more shocked. Because there are too many reports of him with other women, reports of him. I mean, we mentioned this, he was commenting on Sierra's picture two weeks ago, holy frick. Like that's weird to me, if he was with a band at that time. So I just think this is extremely messy. And on top of that, mentioning how these two people, people are like, all right, if you're gonna be together, then fucking stand 10 feet tall being like, I love this person. And yeah, I'm with them. I just, going back to the past couple of reunions of thinking about Wes, he's always like, you know, crawling into a little hole, looking at the ground when he speaks, never really like, he's very bold in other ways, maybe bold in his actions, but when it gets to the reunion and his defenses are not very bold. So I'm just kind of already crawling out of my skin, thinking about the way he's gonna act at this reunion. If he stands up there and is like, you know what, like loud and clear, I really love this girl. And I can't help it, da da da da da. But I just don't know, cause he just seems like the type that's gonna like crawl into a hole. And I just don't know if he's ready to make that kind of commitment, it's from what we've seen. And the dating and sort of, seeing other people and all these things. And here's the thing, we don't know what their timeline really is. They could have been flirting for a long time, but haven't actually hooked up till more recently. Could like, it seems most likely it starts to something where Amanda Single, she's looking for groups of friends in New York, she's going out again, she's finding comfort in Wes, they're good friends. They're going out a couple of times, getting a little drunk, they hook up, it's like, oh shoot. Now what? Maybe it happens again and again, and they catch feelings or it is what it is. That's hard for them to navigate because they were spotted so quickly. And like these rumors came, started to come out so fast. And they really weren't necessarily hiding it from people. It's like, Dumois had multiple spottings, which we didn't believe. We were like, oh, they're being flirt, like Wes is like a flirty friend and whatever. But it all seems like it was pretty real at this point. In my mind it's like, okay, that happens. I don't think they've really had any time to work through their feelings because Wes probably has been hooking up with other girls too, so it's like, oh, it's casual. Like we're seeing other, like we haven't labeled it or anything, but now they're kind of being forced into labeling it because now the whole world knows. So I don't see him being ready in that situation. Amanda's been doing interviews this whole year of looking forward to dating and maybe dating somebody younger and not settling down and having some fun and praising Sierra as a friend. And she's so loyal and such a great friend. And she went on Jason Tartix podcast said she wouldn't touch any of her castmates. So it's just, I don't know if it's like something happened that's really more recently and now it's just rapidly having to, like it's rapidly having to be defined because now we're all like, well, what the fuck are you? Right, exactly. My favorite part of the day now is when I get to crack open my Pepsi prebiotic cola. This in my hand is the prebiotic cola charri vanilla flavor. There's also the original as well, original cola and charri vanilla, two flavors are out right now. There is 30 calories in each can, five grams of sugar and three grams of prebiotic fiber. It's a perfect pick me up during the day, especially lunchtime in the office. We are now stacked with our Pepsi. 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Cause at the same time, his whole vibe was, you know, I've talked to Sierra, she seems to have a little bit more evidence than Kyle had is what it seemed like. His focus is really on West. He's concerned about Amanda. He said he's talked to Amanda, but his concern is, is West. His concern is how many followers West is gaining. Yeah. He mentioned that at least three times. Kyle really is so funny. This is the list of Kyle's concerns. Number one, will they return to summer house? Number two, West's follower count. And number three, Amanda in that order. He's like, West has gained like 50,000 followers. And he's like, I just don't understand. You know, Amanda's losing followers, people are cyber bullying her, but West is gaining followers. I'm with him. It is confusing that West is gaining followers, but the fact that he mentioned it three times, I'm like, Kyle, there's bigger issues here. Kyle's worried about his bag. And then he's like, and then he throws in there. Carl's a mess. Carl's a mess. Poor Carl. Poor Carl. You know what, Carl probably is a mess. He's probably like, oh my God, I got soft bar. I gotta pay for this shit. We need the show to continue. And yeah, I know. And like him also saying, I do feel like there's a lot of people in the Bravo world that maybe also just didn't follow West, but like follow Amanda already. And then they see scandal and they just want to see. They just want to keep up if there's a post. They don't want to keep up with any updates or if there's any posts or anything. I don't think anybody, I mean, I'm sure there's some people, but I don't think the majority of people are like, go West, I'm giving him a follow. Like I don't think that's where it's coming from. I think people are just so enamored by this sort of scandal that they're like, this is so juicy. I want to know what happens next. I want to see if they post anything or share anything. Sierra was on the carpet for the premiere of your friends and neighbors. And talk about just a perfect post because she was on the carpet, she was doing interviews. The statement comes out Tuesday and Wednesday. She posts a video, or was it Tuesday night? Tuesday night. She posts a video from the premiere. She's talking to the cast members. She's meeting John Hamm. John Hamm's like, how are you? She's like, I'm good. And then she kind of looks in the camera. She's like, well, I've been better. And the caption was something like, like if you can't trust your friends and neighbors, who can you trust? Perfect caption, perfect timing, the fact that it was promoting that show. Like it just really, just perfectly made sense. And then John Hamm, when I watched it, I was like, watch it, I was like, obviously team Sierra. John Hamm loves all the Bravo drama. So I don't know. Like I said, I think our biggest concern should be how Sierra is feeling through all this and making sure that she is supported and feels the love. That doesn't mean we have to destroy, like personally go after Amanda. But we can, how about all that pent up anger and frustration that people have at viewers throw it in positivity to Sierra. Yeah, we can show love to Sierra. You know, like, so that's, I think that's the best way to go about, like, once again, we're talking about it. Like you can't talk about it. You talk about the situation and how messy it is. There's social media discourse and it's messy. And talk about it with your friends. But like the direct hate messages are always bad. I mean, we saw this, and listen, by the way, the comparison to Scandaball, like, they never see it. And no, and like as we've talked about, like as far as we know, there wasn't cheating. Now, does it seem like Wes was, I don't know at this point. But in terms of like, remember when, like, you know, everyone was coming after Tom and Raquel obviously. But then it became like, okay, well, you know, now Raquel has to enter like a facility. And then we never saw her ever again. And then Tom goes on traitors. And like, you know. Tom goes on every show again. The memes being like, so I think this means Kyle Cook gets to be Roxy Hart. Oh my God, Kyle gets to go on Dancing with the Stars to be Roxy Hart. Which like really kind of made me, like, made me feel good. So on top of all of that, when Kyle said, I think Ciara had more hardcore evidence, TMZ just reported that sources have told them that there is allegedly picture or video of Amanda and Wes being intimate in Wes's apartment through his window. That neither of them knew was happening. It's giving me the hippie-jippies. No, no, I know. Neither of them knew they were being recorded. Which is, I believe illegal. I believe, right? Cause that's why I'm confused. Cause it's like, paparazzi has taken pictures of people. You know, that's what I'm, it is illegal. I'm pretty sure it's illegal to be taking photographs of people through their windows. I'm pretty sure that's just illegal. Is it just like a peeping Tom situation? I'm pretty sure that's illegal if people are being intimate and like you're taking pictures through their windows. Like that's illegal. If they're nude. Yes. I think about, I think back to the, to the Aaron Andrews case. Yes, yes. But I'm thinking about like, remember when Justin Bieber was like, photograph nude on his balcony and those paparazzi pictures came out? Like where, where, what are the, what it was and regulations when it comes to that stuff? You know, obviously I think it's fucking weird regardless. But I'm like, what's the, you know, but I, you know, besides that just being insane that someone was taking pictures through the window. It's a complex legal issue. That's what it sounds like. It sounds like it's complex because we have seen paparazzi pictures of people like naked. Filming someone inside their own apartment through a window is a complex legal issue. That depends on where you are standing, what you are filming and your intent. Okay. So there's a peeping time and voyeurism laws. Most jurisdictions have criminal laws against peeping. It is a crime to surreptitiously record someone who is undressing or in a private room, like a bathroom or bedroom for sexual gratification or harassment. So there's a, I mean, we don't know what the video is. We don't know. We don't know what it like, what's, but that sounds like something that falls sort of in that category. Which would make sense why the video. Also any sort of like you want to prove harassment or stalking or anything like that. Yeah, no. It's definitely very bizarre. I'm just thinking about Sierra finding out in that way. No, it's got awful. Like all of a sudden, Sierra is being shown a video of these two and it's like, oh my God, like that just like heart drop in your stomach. The whole legal situation of it all is a whole other separate situation that seems insane. But that seems like maybe what Kyle was referring to when he was talking about like hard evidence. Yeah. And then on top of that, there was more about how maybe someone was saying, and everything is, he said, she said, whatever, but apparently Amanda had Sierra's location and Sierra had her location. And Sierra one day checked Amanda's location and saw that she was at Wes's apartment like early in the morning and thought that was suspicious and had asked Amanda why. And you know, Amanda was like, oh we're just friends, you know, that whole thing. So I don't know if they were super upfront with Sierra. It seems like they weren't. It seems like Sierra was very taken off guard by this. And that's how the whole cast is feeling too, right? They're basically saying like, they've heard the rumors, they didn't know 100%. They were denying it to people. People think Jesse knew, I do not think Jesse knew. I know Jesse's, and Jesse, do you see that comment? Yeah, he wrote back and was like, I had asked them and what, you know, they denied it. I believe him, I think that they denied it to everybody. Yeah. And then. I think that everyone had their maybe like their suspicions, but it's hard to say, oh my God, yeah, they're hooking up when you're going to the two people and they're like, no, we're not. Or whatever, you know, whatever was happening, if they were trying to keep it a secret as long as possible. It's just funky to me, because it's like, oh, you want to keep it a secret from them. And these friendship dynamics are all, it's all really interesting when you're on reality TV. Because yes, they all film in a house. They're together for these weeks in the summer. They are close, they have these friendships. But like, real life, a lot of them probably wouldn't be like, these are actually my real life best friends, you know? Yes. But I. And it's like, Sierra and Amanda, if you try and tell me those two, like if. I don't believe you. You want to hit me with, oh, like, they weren't really that close. I'm just not going to believe you. Then ever, then you're just lying to everybody, which is bullshit. That would be weird. That would be weird. Like, no, just bullshit if you're like, these are my best friends and you're lying. I think for somebody, maybe, I don't know, I think coming in with the dynamics, and Kyle was saying this in his video too, he's like, you know, all the people realized how close me and Wes were and traveling together and being with his family. And I'm like, yeah, all those things are definitely true. But it is so interesting to find out that they were probably lying to most of their castmates because they didn't want this to come out. But certainly friends in their circle knew they were hooking up. Right, yeah. And look what happened with Bre telling David in February. It's like, clearly there were some people that were out with them or out with them in New York and all these things and probably had some idea of what was going on. They just didn't want their castmates to find out. But also on top of that, Amanda had just done an interview with Marie Claire, naming Sierra as one of her most loyal friends and was like, Sierra sends me text messages randomly to remind me how strong and powerful I am. I don't think she realizes how much that means to me and how much I need it. And it's like, that was last month. That interview was last month where you are calling Sierra one of your most loyal friends and how much she means to you. So you can't give me the bullshit that you guys weren't that close of friends after this because I'm not gonna buy that. Wes and Kyle, I don't know how close they really are. How good of friends they really were. They'll be telling different stories because Kyle, they'll definitely be telling different stories when they saw like, maybe at the reunion or whatever. But Kyle- My problem specifically with Wes is him playing multiple women. Multiple women, it seems to be the case. Multiple women. And I don't know, it's like, my God, are all these women falling for Wes' charms? It really feels like that way. Cause if Wes is like, yeah, I've been dating all these women, but I haven't told any of them we're boyfriend or girlfriend. It's like- It's literally John Tucker. It's crazy, it really is. Who gets the fucking watch? Who's wearing the watch right now? I think Amanda- I think, I don't know. Apparently she's gonna invite you to weddings and stuff. Seriously, I mean- It's really, it really is crazy, but I just, I laughed a little only because this is so Kyle. There's been so much that has happened. And in this video of him on the street, he's like so focused on the things that Wes is saying in his confessionals about Kyle. Like, he's like, you know, Wes said, like my gift, just like a Wolf of Wall Street gift. Like when he was like hooking up with a hooker, like he's stuck on these little things with him in West, which I totally understand, but it's so, and it puts it all in perspective that it's so crazy that we're still watching the end of the season. And we're dealing with so much Wes and Sierra at the end of the season. And they filmed a whole ass other show called In the City, where we're gonna see Amanda and Kyle fully break up. We're gonna watch that all happen. And that's a whole other show that still has to come out, which is so crazy and really goes to show like, Bravo, you gotta move faster. You can't keep up with these kinds of situations when we have two shows that now, one show needs to finish, another show fully needs to come out before we even sniff the Wes and Amanda stuff. And my God, I don't think that any of them are gonna wanna come back to Summerhouse, although Kyle did say he's single now and he would go back to Summerhouse. Obviously, without a doubt. Here's the thing, throw it in the city show in the garbage. Cause none of us really wanna watch that now because we know who gives a shit now about Kyle and Amanda's divorce. I don't care. Here's the problem, Kyle cook, he's gonna get me on his side soon because when he did this interview, I was like, this is the most likable Kyle has come across in a long time. And this is true. And Kyle's eating that up and I'm not falling for it. Let me tell you, Kyle is on a, Kyle's on an hour long convo with publicist Lindsey Hubbard every night to be like, this is what you're gonna have to do. He knows what he's doing because Kyle, we cannot take away the fact that Kyle was a shitty ass husband, okay? And literally emotionally abused Amanda, calling her a dumb ass bitch, fuck you, all those things. And it's only gonna get worse. Terrible. I think it gets worse. Yeah, I think it gets worse. And you know, he was a bad husband and there were multiple counts of him possibly cheating on Amanda in the past. Well, he definitely cheated on her before they got married. While they were married, I don't know, rumors were swirling the whole thing. He's gonna come out unscathed of this reunion because he was gonna have to answer for his actions of his marriage. But now at this point, he's like, he's probably dancing around. I watched this interview with Kyle, I said, Kyle, I hate that I'm liking your answers. And the fact that he was making me laugh with how concerned he was about Wes's follower count. I know. Like, he kept coming back to it. He was like, and I just don't get why. He's like, why is my follower count not going up? People are concerned about me? I was like, oh my God. And then on top of that, just were worried about Carl, you know? Just hoping Carl's all right. Yeah, I know. It's really, it really was. And the reunion is gonna be so tricky to navigate because it's like, everyone's just gonna wanna talk about the Wes and Amanda stuff, but they're gonna have to circle back to the stuff on the season. And Amanda's probably going to really hit home on how bad things were with Kyle. Because- For sure, for sure. You're gonna want to convince people that it was so bad with Kyle that it like almost drove her into Wes's arms, basically. Which could very much be the case. It's not like that's not possible. And we saw it all happen. I think Amanda got sucked into this situation of she's been in a relationship for 10 plus years. I think no one is more, had been more defeated and beat down than Amanda was in that relationship. I think her self-worth was at an all-time low. I think she had been with Kyle for so long. And no matter how much the public was like, don't worry, we'll support you if you leave him. I think she was so afraid of what that would be like. And it just immediately, when that happens, it's like sometimes you fall into someone that's so familiar to you. And that happened to be West, which is just, it's, I don't know, I think that's gonna be such a regret for her. Where when she's able to step out of it a little bit, it's like, oh, that was really the biggest mistake I could have made. And I know everyone's saying it, but it was all gonna be going pretty well for Amanda. She was gonna get the deals. She was gonna get the shows, all these things. And it was probably only gonna get better because of watching her actually leave Kyle in the city. I think it would have, like people would have been rooting for her even more. And the opportunities would have come flooding in. And she went to the one fucking guy in the whole goddamn world. She could not hook up with. I almost think people would have even supported her if she ended up with Carl. Like, I think if she ended up with Kyle's best friend, I think people would have been like, well, Carl's really sweet and he knows how to treat a man. I think it was just like, I know, it's just the one. Just your girl's man. And you know, people like, don't give me the, oh, Wes and Sierra didn't date for that long. Wes broke Sierra's heart. Okay. If somebody affects one of your best girlfriends that much, off limits, just off limits. Doesn't matter how long they dated. And then- 100%. On top of that, we are actively seeing in this season, Wes play around with Sierra again. Totally. We are seeing him flirt with Sierra. I think more happens towards the end of this season. And then if you add on to the fact that, I don't know how true this is, that they had maybe been trying to rekindle something in the past couple of weeks, who knows. Don't give me that they didn't date for that long because it was about how he- It was how he made her feel. About how he made her feel and affected her. Affected her. He severely lowered her self-esteem at points. It wasn't about how long they dated. I think also, I think that's so relatable for a lot of women out there who have had situations, or have been strung along by a guy, or you were really caught up on somebody. Maybe you dated for a short amount of time, but you were so in it, he wasn't. That your friends know that guy's off limits. But to me, it's even like if you were to kiss a guy one night, whatever, and the guy was a huge asshole to you and said really mean things to you, and then you told your friends, like that guy was a huge asshole to me. He said, your friends then would not hook up with that guy. If one of my friends started dating or hooking up with someone who was actively mean to me, or treated me a certain way, it'd be like wait, so you just don't respect me that he made me feel a certain way about myself? It's almost like when your friends are friends of people who are fucking dicks to you. It's like that sort of thing. So this whole thing is very, very messy, and I'm sure we will get more at the reunion because the stuff that started coming out, and Kyle, about West dating multiple people, I think really muddies this even more. Yeah, I will say. Because those other girls are now hurt as well. Yeah, if you didn't see there was multiple, like Doom Opposite, a bunch of stories that were all, people claiming to know somebody is obviously all legit. People claiming to know someone that's dating West, or that my friend's friend's sister was seeing West, or the girl in Montana. I thought that was dating West, Chicago, like you said, all over the place. And it really did seem like he and Sierra got to a good place in the last few months. And he had been saying that in the press, and Sierra had been saying that in the press, that it finally felt like they were getting their friendship back a little bit, and we saw them at the Super Bowl together looking like they were having fun. Amanda and Sierra. Meanwhile, Bree's telling Dave he's looking up with Amanda. Amanda and Sierra were on Watch What Happens Live right before this, or right after the Super Bowl, or right before it was definitely in between those days. And Andy was asking Sierra questions about West, and she was answering like his butt, it looks cute in pants, and how great his parents are. And Amanda's sitting there like, answering for Sierra as well. It's weird. But we will find out more in their recording. Andy said that they are filming the reunion, and he's got a lot of questions, and he said he feels for Sierra and all of that. So looking forward to the reunion, because I think the whole rest of the season now, people are like. This do-mah post I was posted 15 minutes ago is basically saying that Rihanna's trying to set Sierra Miller and Michael B. Jordan up, and that Michael B. Jordan's very interested. Oh my God, oh my God. I literally just got chills. I just got fucking, I just got full body chills. I mean, I have full body chills. We did freaking about. That Rihanna unfollowed Amanda, which is a tough unfollow. That's a tough unfollow, but I don't care about that. I care about the fact that Sierra Miller and Michael B. Jordan could potentially be set up by Rihanna. I'm speechless. I could be brought to tears right now. That would be the best couple of all time. That couple to me. Wow. And the fact that it's set up by Rihanna. Is this true? I don't even care. I don't even care. Just the thought of it. I was so taught. It's like a movie. People are talking about the TMZ thing of that. Like Amanda had texted Sierra Monday afternoon, saying she never meant to hurt her. And then Sierra got in the heads up that they were gonna put a statement out. And that Amanda said she wanted to sort her feelings about Wes before discussing the romance with her friend. Which is like objectively so crazy when we saw this dynamic happen with Jesse and Jesse wanting to hook up with Sierra and going to Wes about it and being weird and them all not knowing how to talk about it. Or Sierra was like, why would he talk to me first? I can't even listen to what you're saying. I'm literally envisioning Sierra and Michael B. Jordan. I mean, it's that would, yeah. Here's the thing. If they end up together, it's like, you know, thank you to the universe for this happening. Oh my God, please. No, I mean, it's anonymous. We have no clue someone could have made this up. We have no idea. Friend has been close to Sierra for a few years now. Rihanna was not happy with what happened unfollowed Amanda, et cetera. And has now decided to play matchmaker for Sierra. She's been DMing her and a very prominent A-list actor who just won an award is apparently very interested. Can you imagine Rihanna and A-Sack Rocky at home just like shaking their head at Amanda and Wes being like, I can't fucking believe this happened. We gotta set Sierra up with Michael. That would be unreal. That would be unbelievable. And Sierra's like, you know, circles now. She's interviewing all those people. I know. And not to, not to like be weird about the following stuff, but I did go to see yesterday if she followed Sierra and she didn't. Maybe she's trying to keep it okay. She still doesn't follow Sierra, which is like, she's DMing Sierra, but she didn't hit her with a follow. That's a good question. Like, you would think she'd follow her. If you're so upset by the scandal, you're hitting Sierra with a follow. You're hitting Sierra with a follow. If she's not trying to make it like headline news, if she unfollowed Amanda and then followed Sierra. Well, she already unfollowed Amanda and everybody knows. People were speculating that she unfollowed Amanda a while ago though, because Amanda had talked about Rihanna DMing her and Amanda like not answering right away, which was bizarre. Oh, right, right, right, right. I remember. Remember? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you gotta answer that within the hour of seeing it. You know, maybe not right away. You gotta let it breathe. But you gotta answer it like. Yeah. Say it. Now there was a crazy. Crazy days and nights. Crazy days and nights blind. From like June of 2025, that claims, you know, some, some basically saying someone in the summer house was cheating on their significant other. Yeah, people said that. They think it's Amanda. Which really people were holding on to as well. But it's just too, it's, there's, right now, there's too many rumors. There's too many timelines. There's too many my friends, brothers, cousins, hairdressers said that they saw this. Like we, we, we need to hear from the horse's mouth now. We need to sit down at the reunion. We gotta hear what these guys have to say because we're all going to be speculating and it's all speculation until then. Or until one of them sits down. I'm sure Bravo's not going to let them do any press until after the reunion. That would be crazy. They'll say this all for the reunion. And I gotta say watching Tuesday night summer house, like weird feeling. Like watching the episode while this is all going on and then like seeing the preview. And you're like, ooh, we have a bunch more episodes of this. And I'm also very just logistically interested in the, in the Kyle and Amanda not being legally separated yet, like not being divorced. And what that means for them and how this is going to go. When, where is he at with Loverboy? Cause it's seemingly not good. And my guide is he probably dying to figure out how to help this, how to use this to help Loverboy in some way. The Loverboy Instagram account posted these graphics. How to support Loverboy. And there's multiple slides. It says we see the comments, we see the DMs, we see the marketing videos, we hear you loud and clear. You want new products and new campaigns. The only problem is, and it's a picture of Kyle and the Patrick meme, I have $3. Listen, people got to get out there and you know. Yeah. And this is a boots on the ground campaign here. But yeah, they're just, you know, they posted the whole graphic on having people support them, which is funny cause I'm like, let's support Sierra before we jump on this, on this train, you know. Absolutely. Acorns believes that everybody has the potential to be a great investor. We've been loving the Acorns app, downloading it is super easy and investing when maybe you're new to investing is even easier. 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The way it was announced was confusing. We had no idea what this show was. But like, it was like all of a sudden we just saw pictures of all these people that were gonna be on a show. Just how the Bachelorette was already filmed and then not put out there because Taylor for you, well, it's kind of the same thing. Like why are we having Dakota on a show? I, I completely agree. I think it's really bizarre. I don't think Taylor or Dakota should be on any shows. I completely agree. I think it's really, really weird. And like sketchy behavior. I don't get it. I don't, I don't know how you can be the, or want to be like the go-to outlet for people to sit down and tell their stories and tell their hardships. And people open up on crazy things that happened in their lives to Alex Cooper on Caller Daddy abuse that they've dealt with in their lives. And trauma, all these really intense things that they share with her. And we literally just watched Jesse talk to her about her relationship with Jordan and the blackmail and all these crazy things. And they're talking about Taylor, Frankie, Paul getting her, her season canceled and all this. And then it's like, oh, watch my juicy reality show with all these problematic people. This should be so fun. And like just promoting it in any normal way and not addressing it at all is weird to me. Like not being like, hey, at least something of like, hey, we filmed this months ago, blah, blah, blah. I don't know. Just not talking about it all and being like, this show is crazy. Everyone's gotta watch. You're like really eyebrow raising. I am so with you. Like there wasn't even any sort of warning. Like anything at all. Like, hey, we put, and that's the Alex Cooper way though. She doesn't address anything ever. Like it's just never, like there's never any addressing of any sort, which whatever. But it's like, you're gonna put out this show. You know people are gonna have something to say about the cast members and you're just gonna completely ignore it and just like, just continue to put out the show and not even make a statement about like, hey, we know that people are like upset with some of the cast members. We filmed this a while ago. We're still gonna put it out. She's not a part of a huge network. It's her own network. So she can really do whatever she wants. If she wants to still put, but like just saying nothing is just wacky to me. It's just wacky. I, it's a bad taste in my mouth about this one. Yeah. It's just really, really unfortunate to see some of these people. And it's just like, when I saw Dakota square on the cast now, so I was like, uh. No immediate reaction of like, oh no, no, no. No. No. I'm like, how'd our sweet Joe and Serena get roped into this? No, Joe and Serena on this cast are such outliers that I'm like, Joe, Serena, what are you doing? I know. What are you doing? Guys, no. It is crazy. It's very wild. Moving on to more of reality TV talk. A bachelor producer who had worked on multiple seasons is now coming out with a book about her, you know, experience working on the shows and how there was a little bit of a lines blurred situation with Peter Weber. So the producer is Julie Laplacca, or Laplacca. And her book is The Love Producer. And she admitted in this book that she was more vulnerable with Weber than her own boyfriend at the time. And I don't know if you guys were called, but during Peter's season, there was a rumor that Peter was gonna, you know, end things with Hannah Ann, end things with Maddie and then just run off with a producer from his show. Everyone was like, wait, what? That seems, that's out of left field. Apparently not so out of left field with Julie's book coming out. She has stated that I don't think Peter Weber is happy with this book, but there's a lot of background information on past seasons that she's worked on and reality TV doesn't always air the full reality. And it was neither confirmed or denied about the producer at the time with Peter. So this is going to be extremely interesting. And she does mention multiple times that lines were blurred. So I'm sure that at one point from what I'm picking up on in this book is that they got really close. They instantly became really good friends. And then at some point, maybe, you know, they were together on New Year's Eve at one point and people had speculated they, you know, had a New Year's kiss that was denied at the time. And she said that she is going to reveal all in this book about what was going on behind the scenes. Let me tell you a great story to put out to the press to get people to buy this book. Because I don't know. Immediately I was interested. I don't know if this really interests that many people until they see this story and they're like, wait a second. So this is the excerpt that they're putting out to the press to get people interested for the book. Smart, smart. It's going to get people talking. Once again, we find our Peter Weber in the midst of some sort of love situation. You never know what that guy is up to. You never know in behind the scenes. So I'm interested in that. And then last topic, Olivia Rodrigo announced her new album is coming out June 12. And it's, you seem pretty sad for a girl who's so in love. I love Olivia Rodrigo's music. I loved her past two albums. So I am so excited for this. And it's coming way sooner than I had expected. I was thinking maybe end of summer or fall. But we are getting it June 12. So cannot wait for this. Love the album. Comparms. I keep forgetting that it's like April. Right. Because when I saw June 12, I was like, oh, that feels far away. It's not that far. It's not far away. We're going to get like a summer album from Olivia. Although it's sad. But it will be sad. But I'm sure there will be some bops. Sad bops, which do exist. They do. And I love the marketing she's been doing for it as well. So super excited for this. Cannot wait. She did say it's going to sound a lot different than her first two albums. That's going to be more cinematic and less rock. And then it's going to be like that it was inspired by Lana Del Rey a lot. Oh, OK. So I could see some maybe like maybe some ballads in there which she is she is really good at. I I I don't want to make any rushed judgments. Because my first thought hearing that is like not super pumped. I'm kind of excited. I'm excited. But I don't know, maybe not. Or maybe that'll that'll change to to hear a sound. I just like I think it's anytime you really like something or really like a sound. I love those first two albums. But like vampire is not like a poppy boppy dance around. But it's a fucking amazing song. So it could be the second half. I feel like way more right. But way nice. Not a lot of Del Rey. No, no. But you have what I'm saying. Yeah, it's not like dance around pop. No, no. No. I'm excited. That'll be interesting, though. We've got some good new music coming out. Niles got a new album coming out to I'm very excited for. I'm just sucker for Nile. He doesn't really. He's a real good needle for me. No, I know. That was for me. That was for me. I'm excited for that one. They actually, I watched a really funny video of him on Jimmy Kimmel. And there's a girl that worked for Jimmy Kimmel that was that's like a, you know, either one direction or Nile specifically, super fan. And they played a game of like who knows Nile better. And she knew everything about him. But she was like cute. It was very much, I felt like she was my kindred spirit. I felt the connection to her being put in that situation because she was like, I swear to God, I'm normal. Like I swear to God, I'm normal. She was looking at Jimmy like, I really hope I get to keep my show. Because Jimmy's Kimmel's like, when did Nile get his braces off? And Nile was like, and she was like, April 2013. Hey, there's some people you just know everything about. You just remember these things. You just do. So that's a good one. But no, that's going to be a fun one. I can't, we are so excited at it. You know, Olivia's at the top of the top for me. We're so ready for some new Olivia music. You think she and Taylor talked about it at the Paul McCartney concert? No. Listen, Jake Shane probably weaseled his way into that conversation. They're all going to be on the spot. Every single person in that section. Jake Shane's definitely going to interview Olivia Rodrigo. Oh, 100%. Can I say? By the way, love Jake Shane. I'm just joking around. Can I say they don't that I think they didn't talk at all? Oh, I agree. Like, I don't think they know. You don't really say like, oh, hi. Nope. I think they didn't even look. They were so close. No, they were so close. And I think it was probably so awkward. And they stood like, I don't think they looked in each other's direction. I don't know. I don't know. That's my guess. Well, people are also like, did Jake Shane and Taylor have to talk because he's like a giant? Well, I think that we would have gotten an Instagram story from Jake Shane being like, I talked to him. Yeah, cool. He could be. He could be saving it for a story for his own show. Yeah, he could be. She's just going to be honest. They're a puss. She could be. I could see it. Totally could be. I could see that happening. I think if Taylor and Olivia spoke any words to each other, there would have been some rumblings about it. I think they were just like so incredibly close, like either leaving or coming into the concert. And here's the thing. We saw still photos of them being so close together. That could have been four seconds. Could have been a passerby situation. It could have been such a quick thing. You see Drew Starkey next to Margot Robbie. It was just like the most random people. It was a real hussu. It was. Real hussu, but yeah, I actually put gas that not one word was spoken between them. I am excited for her album. Yes, I am. Kind of. All right, that wraps up today's topics. This is actually so cool from Truly. We have these collectors city cans. They are limited edition. They just dropped these limited edition, 24 ounce wild berry cans. They're not just drinks. They're basically collectibles. I just picked up the Philadelphia one. They're so cool. It's all for some, you know, we got, we're rooting for US soccer this year. Truly is the official heart cell server US soccer. Each can is designed around a different city. So it's giving cute, unique, and also a little competitive. Like you kind of want to find them all. 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So who knows, they can go way back with these questions, but we're super excited to play. How are we feeling, ladies? We're excited. What? Nervous. We're always nervous too. You guys are going to be great. We're coming off a not so great game in Boston. Was it that bad? We only got one question right. Ah, well that live show. It's always a toss up. Yeah. We lost last game too. You spoiled the last question too. Oh, yes, I do remember that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's okay. That's okay. You broke your own rule. We're from the Boston area, so maybe that's a good omen, I don't know. Oh, maybe. Maybe. Maybe. But it's going to be 15 questions. If you got the question right, you get the point. If you get it wrong, the other team can steal the point. Whoever is the most points at the end wins. To determine who goes first, no one's going to give us a movie. We're going to guess the Ron Tomatoes critic score of that movie. Whoever is closest will go first. We each get our own individual guess. We will alternate between teams for guesses. Noah, what is today's movie? He's just not that into you. A classic. Great movie. I'm going to say 53. Rhea? 31. Katie? I'm going to go 45. I like this whole range. You think higher. No. What? What was your guess? 31. I was the lowest. I'll say 62. 45 is closest. 42. Hmm. This. 38. Damn. All right in the middle. All right. Question number one, Tumores and Katie, shout out Bree from New Jersey. What 2019 movie featured a collaboration by Ariana Grande, Miley Cyrus and Lana Del Rey? Like a song? Yes. Oh. 2019 movie. 15 seconds. What even movies came out in 2019? Five seconds. Five seconds. Last song is not 2019, but that's all I got. Time is up. What'd you say? It's the last song. Oh, still, okay. Incorrect. Me and Frank. This one seems to be escaping me, but is something like the word world is in it? The word world is in it. I don't know. It was just to name the movie. The movie. And all three of them are on one song. Oh, the movie. It's a movie. Yeah. Are they all on one song? Yes. Yes, 50 Shades. No, that came out later. No, no, earlier. What's the? 50 Shades Freed. 50 Shades Freed. Five seconds. Final answer. Incorrect. Charlie's Angels. Oh. Listen. I'm accepting that though there, like the 50 Shades Freed. No, I had no idea. I don't know why. There was some great collaborations on those soundtracks. All right. Question number two to Rhianne Fran, shout out Taylor from Indiana. What movie does Taylor Swift reference in the song So High School? American Pie. Yes. Final answer. Correct. All right. One, nothing Rhianne Fran. Question number three to Marissa and Katie, shout out Lexi from Arizona. What was the rival camp called in Camp Rock 2? Katie. I don't know. Camp Star? Ooh. I like it. Camp Star, final answer. Correct. Nicely done. Nice. Wow. That was pulling it out. All right, Tadda bit one. Question number four to Rhianne Fran, shout out Sarah from France. On friends, how does Joey's character get killed off on the sitcom or soap opera days of our lives? Is this when he falls down the elevator shaft? Yes. Yes. Final answer. Correct. Yes. It's like, I think I know that one. And then Susan Sarandon takes over his body. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes. Okay, two, one. Rhianne Fran, question number five, shout out Sarah from France. She's got like the next like four questions. Oh yes, Sarah. Yes. Name the actor. Let us see Bufu. Name the actor based on the following movies. Date night for getting Sarah Marshall, Bad Moms. Actor or actress, should be clear. Ooh. Makes it harder. I'm thinking. Oh, is it us? Yes. Oh, Mila Kunis. Final answer. I think it's Mila Kunis, yeah, final answer. Correct. Why you just had that one ready. Yeah, I thought it was them. All right. Yeah, that was a great, she had a great cameo date night. Mm-hmm. That movie. All right, so out of it two, this is question number six to Rhianne Fran, shout out Sarah from France again. Name three out of the four main characters on Sex and the City's full names. Carrie Broadshaw. Charlotte North. Right? Yeah. No. No. Charlotte York. Charlotte York. Charlotte North is a women's lacrosse. Yeah, Charlotte York. Carrie Broadshaw. Carrie Broadshaw. Miranda. And Samantha. 10 seconds. Fuck. Three seconds. I don't remember either of their last names. Me either. Time's up. All right, pass. Okay, to Marissa and June. All right. Carrie Broadshaw. Charlotte York. Miranda Hobbs. Final answer. Oh, final answer, yeah. Correct. Dang it. And Samantha Jones. Samantha Jones. Oh, we're dumb. We're bad. That's embarrassing. That is really embarrassing. We revoke our cards. No, seriously. We don't watch Sex and the City. Like, we should be better at that. We should be better at Sex and the City trivia. Very unsexy of us. We should be better at Sex and the City trivia. I really have only watched Sex and the City, not even one full time through. That's like, I've actually watched it too many times and not know that. You know, it's a brain, it's just your brain slips up for a minute. All right, three, two. We're praying for a Sex and the City question. Hey, that's a rare one. That's not that comment to have a Sex and the City question. No, and that is probably on the easier side of Sex and the City questions. All right, three, two. Literally, what are their names? Three, two, Maurice and Katie. And this is question number seven to them. Shout out to Sarah from France once again. Which actress plays young Ellis Gray on season six of Grey's Anatomy? That's all you Katie. Which actress plays young Spray? Do you know what other movies she's in? Oh, I can't even picture her. Young Ellis, I didn't watch season six. I feel like that was one of the better. That was still when it was good. Maybe I did, I don't know, because were we still in high school? We're on like 25 now, so, probably. Three seconds. No, not nothing. I can't picture her either. I only see old Ellis Gray. Go, Shailene Woodley. She was always thrown into random shows at that time. Being a young version of someone. Yeah, sure, why not? Shailene Woodley, final answer. Incorrect, Sarah Paulson. To be honest, Sarah Paulson, was it really young? Because I was picturing like, Oh, I was picturing like, real young girl. Like Shailene Woodley. No, no, she was like young doctor. It was like young doctor. She doesn't even look like the older actress. Oh, I was like, it was like when she was falling, like when it was like her and young Richard. Oh, I was like picturing like young, young girl. No, no, no. That's why I said Shailene Woodley. No, like young doc. In the OC, which was, yeah, yeah. Young doctor. Yeah, and then I think on a later season, they switched to two different actresses when they did flashbacks. Okay, still three, two, Morrison, Katie. This is question number eight to Ryan Franch. How to breathe from New Jersey. What was the title of Addison Rae's debut single? Obsessed. Yes. Is that a question? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Obsessed, final answer. Correct. You might have said, what was it? Diet, Pepsi. No, come on, we all know she had something before that. What happened? I feel like she's been real quiet lately. No, she's performing. She's touring. She's not touring. She's on tour. I'm seeing one thing about that. Clearly, you know, why would you be touring with Addison Rae? I don't know. I see, I feel like I'm pretty tapped in. No, she performed in Brazil. We talked about her at work today. This movie, you go. All right, time up at three. Question number nine to Morrison, Katie, shout out Annie from Chicago. In what year were all of these songs released? I Kissed a Girl by Katy Perry, Disturbia by Rihanna, Love Story by Taylor Swift. Oh, okay. Taylor Swift's Fearless album came out in 2008. So. I was gonna say it was in high school. Yeah, and Fearless is 2008. So 2008, final answer. Correct. Yep. 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Jonah Hill and Miles Teller. This is the second time that I'm using their voices. Is one of them famous in that awkward moment? No. Time's up. Oh, maybe it's that. Three people? Five seconds. But didn't sound like the other two voices. That's all I got. The awkward moment, violence or... Incorrect. It's Morrison Katie. That's definitely Jonah Hill at the end. We can't hear it again, right? What's our rule? Is it one per team? No, we probably won per team. All right, so I can play it again. Oh, hey, Mark, could you do me a favor and never leave a paycheck from your shit sick call on my pillow ever again, please? Oh, that is so rude of me to accidentally leave my paycheck for $25,000 on your pillow. Sorry. It's a dick move. It's just they keep coming, you know, week after week it's getting a little bit hard to keep track of them all. You know what? Becoming marginally famous has really turned you into an asshole. What? Okay. 10 seconds. Kate, what's the name of that? That was Seth Rogen and Jonah Hill. The name of the movie where the world is ending. Is it the end of the world? Three seconds. Yeah. Violent or end of the world? Correct. Oh, is it this is the end? No, it's funny people. I never seen that. That's Seth Rogen, Jason Schwartz, Jonah Hill. That is J. Jonah Hill and Miles Heller for some reason really get me stepping my head. That one was giving more Jonah Hill. The second listen, it sounded way more Jonah Hill. Okay. Question number 11. What's funny people? I haven't seen that movie. You never seen that? Oh, no. That's a good one. It's Seth Rogen's assistant. Have you seen that? No, I haven't. Wait, really? Oh, wow. It's a good movie. Like, sad. It's a more serious movie. Okay. Four three. Mercin, Katie, this is question number 11 to them. Shadow Cal from Long Island. What was the LA club that the castmates in the Hills frequently went to? Lidue. Final answer. Correct. And I'm happy that you said it because I would have fucked up. All right. Hearing us. Would have been good to hear. No, I say it's Liduex. Five three. Mercin, Katie. Question number 12 to re-infringe. Shadow Taylor from Indiana. In Lizzie McGuire, what specific sport does Lizzie compete in? Gymnastics was the first thing that popped in my head. But isn't that when she, when she tries to do gymnastics? Oh, yeah, yeah. Or she like. Gymnastics, then. Ready? I don't think of anything else. Gymnastics. Final answer. In correct emphasis on specific. Okay. I remember the ribbon twirling situation and I want it like is ribbon twirling a sport? Or baton? 15 seconds. Rhythmic gymnastics is the actual name of the sport. Ribbon dancing is in a sport. I think it's rhythmic gymnastics. Okay, let's go with it. Final answer. Rhythmic gymnastics. Correct. Rhythmic gymnastics. Bullshit. It's rhythmic gymnastics. I would have given it to them. I'll talk to you about that after. I mean, hey, we, hey. No, no, no. I just think you, I think you, I think. I put specific in the question for this reason. If we say gymnastics, I think you say we need something more specific before saying final answer to click like. But then I'm like helping you. I said specific in the question. I guess that's how Jeff, Jeff D does it. Also you pick and choose when you do that. Sometimes he's like, I'm looking for a little more. Jeff D, I will say Jeff D on the dozen says. They say it doesn't honey. If you say one word, he'll say I need something more, more specific and then you have it. You have like two seconds to clarify. Yeah. I just, I said specific in the question and gymnastics by itself isn't specific. You said what specific sport. Just move on. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not going to fight you on this. Okay. It is six, three. Literally said what we've been twirling. Morrison, Katie. And this question number 13 shout out Sarah from France again. To Morrison, Katie, the singer Jojo recorded a song titled secret love for which 2004 animated movie soundtrack. 2004. Okay. We were in sixth grade. Yeah. Secret love. I'm thinking Pixar. 15 seconds. Um, it wouldn't have been like a, like a Disney, like a Luzzie McGuire type. I think that's too late for Luzzie McGuire movie. But it's animated. Oh, animated. Um, Time is up. The incredible. Incredible. Finally. It's three in front. No. Hmm. Trying to think of what movies came out around that time. 2004. And secret love. I'm trying to think of like animated movies that would have like love aspect in it. 15 seconds. Unreal. What was that one with the dog? Five seconds. That Miley Cyrus was in? No, that would be too early. Time is up. Toy Story. Correct. Shark Tale. I wasn't a big Shark Tale person. I have to be completely honest. Yeah, well, that was, I think I maybe saw it one time. All right. Well, that's deals of victory for Mercent Katie. Congratulations. Congrats to you guys. Congrats. We're on a bad lose. Thanks guys. Bobby play sometimes loses a couple times in a row. That's how you keep him, you know, that's how you keep Bobby wanting to come back and fight for himself. I will do the final two questions. Question number 14 to re-enfranchise at a Carly from Lansdale, Pennsylvania. Who is the youngest celebrity winner in dancing with the stars history? Us. Yeah. It's a Bindi Irwin. Youngest celebrity. Yeah, that feels like a good guess. Either Charlie DeMille or Bindi Irwin. Right. I would go Bindi. All right. Bindi Irwin. Final answer. Incorrect. Mercent Katie. I was going to say Bindi too, but maybe it was Sochi or that pretty little Liars girl. Maybe Sochi. I'll defer to you. Final answer. Incorrect. It's Laurie Hernandez. She was 16. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Damn. Yeah. All right. Final question. Shout out Molly from Glenville, Nebraska. And this is to Mercent Katie. I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, this is too much and Katie shut up mal already shut you up on our family after J retires. What business does he start J this is us? Yes. Oh, J is the grandpa, right? Yeah. Uh, they're like closets, closets, closets, but I don't know if that's him or if that's go for it. I've I've never watched it front to back. So I don't know that might be the mom. No, I don't know. Closets, closets, closets, final answer. Incorrect to read from. I'm not like a modern. He does me retire from closets, closets, closets, I thought. Yeah, I'm not like a modern family trivia person. Like I never watched it all the time. It's what he does after retiring? Yeah. Gardening. Something with his dog. I, once again, I have literally no idea. I've never. 15 seconds. No clue. Dog walking? Five seconds. It's like dog clothing line. Stella's all dressed up. Final answer. Incorrect. Very close. Dog beds. Dog beds. Dog beds by Stella. Something with a dog. Something with a dog. Shit. All right. Do something with Stella. It's the best episode when Stella falls in the pool. I gotta watch the modern family. Final score, six three. I'm happy the gymnastics thing didn't decide this. No, no, no. Yeah, thank God. Congratulations though, you guys get shirts that say you beat us. And you know, you're inspiring us that we gotta get back to it next week and win the game, you know? It's motivation. I'm watching. Yes. Studying. Awesome. Fun fact though, when you guys were in Singapore, I am the Marissa. They kept on calling at the Pug Cafe. Yes. I, yes. That makes a lot more sense. A little behind the scenes, Marissa helped us. We did put two in two days. We did put two in two days. We did put two in two days. We did put two in two together before that. Go to Singapore. When Noah said your name, I was like, oh, that's when the guy called me Marissa the whole time, I just didn't bother to correct him. Oh yeah, oh my God. I forgot about that. I see, I see. That's why. Well, thank you so much guys. Thanks guys. So nice to play trivia with you and congratulations. Thanks for sending us to Singapore. Yes, yes, of course. Seriously. Thanks. Bye. Yeah, Jake's in the office. Long time listener. First time caller. Look at the charts, who does it the best? Two chicks getting paid in reality checks. You can find them at the gym. It's not even a flex. Last minute red carpet flew them out on the jet. Yeah, they're who you want to be. They're always on your screen. Two queens and they might be spilling royalty. A lot of topics that are popping here to get into. I know a show that you probably want to listen to. Who turned the heat up? Turn the beat up. Record the pod made a bag with their feet up. The ones that leave no crumbs when they clean up. 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