Morbid

The 1916 Jersey Shore Shark Attacks (Part 1)

59 min
Mar 9, 2026about 1 month ago
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Summary

This episode covers the 1916 Jersey Shore shark attacks, beginning with the fatal attack on Charles Van Zandt on July 1st and continuing with Charles Bruder's death on July 6th. The hosts discuss how these early shark attacks became known as the 'Summer of Blood' and examine the ecological factors, witness accounts, and public panic that followed, while contrasting real shark behavior with Hollywood's dramatization in Jaws.

Insights
  • Early 20th-century beach culture was still nascent (1920s-1960s golden age), making the 1916 attacks unprecedented public spectacles that shaped shark perception for generations
  • Shark attacks are driven by sensory cues (sound, vibration, heartbeat detection) rather than malice; hungry, displaced sharks may continue attacking after realizing prey isn't their typical food source
  • Public officials prioritized economic interests (resort bookings) over public safety warnings, minimizing credible threats to protect the tourism industry
  • Jaws (1975) unintentionally demonized sharks decades later, leading to overfishing and population decline despite filmmakers' later regret and public disclaimers
  • Exploratory bites and prey discrimination are normal shark behavior; the 1916 attacks were atypical in their persistence and severity, suggesting extreme hunger or ecological displacement
Trends
Historical public health communication failures when economic interests conflict with safety messagingMedia sensationalism amplifying public fear disproportionate to actual statistical riskEcological displacement of apex predators due to environmental disruption (Gulf Stream chaos) creating unexpected human-wildlife conflictPost-incident hunting and culling of wildlife as reactive public safety measure without ecological understandingTourism industry pressure on local government to suppress safety warnings during peak revenue seasonsShift from rational risk assessment to emotional fear-based decision-making in crisis situationsRole of fictional media in shaping real-world conservation policy and public perception of wildlifeWitness testimony reliability and false claims of eyewitness status during high-profile incidents
Topics
1916 Jersey Shore shark attacksGreat white shark behavior and hunting mechanismsShark sensory biology (heartbeat detection, sound wave tracking)Public panic and mass hysteria managementTourism industry crisis responseWildlife culling and overfishing consequencesJaws film impact on shark conservationBeach culture history and developmentEarly 20th-century medical emergency responsePredator-prey dynamics in marine ecosystemsGovernment communication during public health crisesExploratory bite behavior in sharksGulf Stream ecological disruptionWitness testimony and media reporting accuracyFear versus statistical risk in public perception
Companies
Essex and Sussex Hotel
Location of second shark attack victim Charles Bruder, who was a manager at the resort
Florida Museum of Natural History
Cited for statistical data showing fewer than 100 shark bites annually with roughly half unprovoked
Barnes & Noble
Mentioned as retailer for signed copies of host's book 'The Butcher Legacy'
People
Steven Spielberg
Director of Jaws (1975); later expressed regret for unintentionally demonizing sharks and contributing to overfishing
Peter Benchley
Jaws author who publicly stated regret for how the film contributed to shark demonization and overfishing
Charles Van Zandt
23-year-old victim of first fatal shark attack on July 1, 1916 at Beach Haven, New Jersey
Dr. Eugene Van Zandt
Physician and father of Charles Van Zandt; attempted emergency treatment on beach but son died from hemorrhage
Charles Bruder
27-year-old hotel manager and second fatal shark attack victim on July 6, 1916 at Spring Lake, New Jersey
James Meehan
New Jersey Fish Commissioner who minimized shark threat despite deaths, prioritizing tourism over public safety
George Burgess
Ichthyologist cited for research on shark attraction to irregular swimming motions and dog paddling
Michael Capuzzo
Author quoted extensively on shark attack details and victim consciousness during attacks
Louise Van Zandt
Sister of Charles Van Zandt; witnessed brother's attack and fainted upon seeing his injuries
Alexander Ott
First swimmer to reach Charles Van Zandt during attack; pulled him toward shore while shark attacked again
Quotes
"But fear of sharks and fear of shark attacks, it's pretty understandable, of course, because they're so foreign looking to us. You know what I mean? It's also the whole prospect of being eaten alive."
AlaynaEarly discussion
"Sharks are not the same. Those are two examples of things that we look at and we go, holy shit, that thing is so huge and can eat me alive. And that's terrifying. One of them wants to. One of them doesn't."
AshShark vs. hippo comparison
"He's a big gray fellow and rough as sandpaper. He cut me here in the side and his belly was so rough it bruised my face and arms. He's a big fellow and awfully hungry."
Charles BruderVictim's description of shark while dying
"Despite the death of Charles Van Zandt and the report that two sharks had been caught in the vicinity recently, I do not believe there's any reason why people should hesitate to go in swimming at beaches for fear of man eaters."
James Meehan, New Jersey Fish CommissionerOfficial response to first death
"The ocean is not my place. The ocean is not ours. The ocean is in towers we're lucky they let us the fuck in there in the first place."
AlaynaReflection on human relationship with ocean
Full Transcript
Hey weirdos, I'm Ash. And I'm Alayna. And this is Morbid. This is Morbid and it's gonna be a cinematic one. Cinematic, you say? We're gonna be talking about shark attacks. Oh! Dun-nut, dun-nut, dun-nut, dun-nut, dun-nut, dun-nut. Yeah, not just any shark attacks. They're from 1916. And they're famous shark attacks. Really? Jersey Shore ones, in fact. I don't know if I've heard of this. Do you know that even when I swim in a lake, I'm terrified of getting shark attacked? Oh, yeah. I'm terrified of anything. Sometimes I swim in the pool and I'm like, what if there's a shark in here? And I'm like, what if there's that thing from that episode of Are You Afraid of the Dark in here? I know. That would fuck me up. You know? You just don't know. You know, Laughing in the Dark, by the way, if you want to hear recaps of Are You Afraid of the Dark. There you go. We're not on it, but I'm just saying it's a good podcast. And Mikey's on it. Mikey's on it. And Dave. And Dave. Who made this cinematic. And Brian. And Brian. And Eileen. And Eileen. And Eileen. We don't know, but I'm sure she's great. Yeah. But yeah, so I always think that thing's going to come out. I know. Is it the Dead Man's Float? Yes. That's the episode. Yep. That was always the one that really scared me. that and i'm cold i'm cold uh but yeah so this is gonna terrify you for water i'm scared today just like jaws did we'll talk about jaws too we are gonna talk about jaws yeah but before we do that we have an announcement we have an announcement it's kind of like an announcement that's not an announcement it's like a half announcement it's like a get ready get ready just you know keep your eyes peeled on the instas i think that's really the only social media we have maybe we'll make a tiktok about it probably not um but we'll think about it definitely keep your definitely keep your eye on the instas yeah and this space in particular if you're not on the instas obviously we'll talk about it on the pod yeah we're gonna be announcing something pretty big yeah maybe something that you can attend yeah maybe maybe you could go to maybe you could go to there maybe i don't know your life I don't know. Just keep that in mind. Just think about it. Think about it. For the next week or so. Yeah. You know, just keep it in mind. Keep your eyes peeled. Your ears peeled. Keep everything peeled. That sounds gross. Your onions, your potatoes. Peel it all. Peel it all. Peel away. And if you're like my kids, peel your apple as well. Peel your apple, yeah. You know? No, eat the skin. There's so much fiber in it. I know. I tell them. I tell them. Tell them. Say, TT's fiber maxing. And you should too. Two out of three of them will eat the skin of a kiwi. But not the skin of an apple. You're supposed to eat the skin on the kiwi. I know. I was like only a few days ago old when I found that out. Yeah, it's really good for you. Didn't know. I thought you like weren't supposed to, in fact. Nah. I mean, it's kind of, it's fuzzy, so it's weird. Yeah. But, you know, eat the skin, guys. Do it. Live your life the way you want to live it. And also, if you're looking for a book to read. Hey, I know somebody who wrote a few books. I'm always going to tell you about it. Always. Always. The third book in the series, The Butcher Legacy, you can pre-order it. And I think there's still some signed copies left at Barnes & Noble. So if you want those, I don't know if there's any left, but if there is, go grab them. Could be. They might be gone. Hunt it down. Go hunt it down. So go pre-order it. You can go to butcherlegacy.com. Pre-order it wherever you want. Hardcover. It's going to be great. You can get an e-book. Audiobook news will be coming. And you know what is crazy? some of my favorite authors of all time have given me blurbs that's a cool fucking moment and they've been pretty amazing so it's it's given me a big head i love that and it's just been phenomenal i can't wait i can't wait for you guys to see what authors agreed to do it because i am still speechless it's a big deal yeah it's blowing my mind a little bit also we're on opposite sides of the room today yeah and like it didn't feel weird until right now yeah we flip-flopped the room a little because we needed to clear the energy a bit. It looks so good in here. I'm so happy with the way that it came out. Yeah. But all of a sudden it just hit me how weird I feel. Yeah. Not in a bad way. Just in a like, whoa, a whole new world. Exactly. You know. You know what else was a whole new world? Jersey. 1916. Yeah. Yeah. That was a whole different world. There you go. Look at that segue. Look at it. Look at it. So first we're going to, This is going to be cinematic. It's going to be gruesome. It's going to horrify you. Okay. But you know, here we are. It's morbid. So. It is. It's also going to be a two-parter because holy shit, there's a lot in this one. I mean, this is like far past what a one-parter could do because there's just a lot. I'm scared. And I'm going to give you a lot right up front. Okay. So you don't have to take it. But let's go back to what we're all thinking about right now. What are we all thinking about when we think of shark attacks? Jaws? Yeah. Jaws. I want to watch Jaws now In the opening scene Of Steven Spielberg's iconic 1975 film Jaws Which my kids want to watch so bad And I've not let them watch it yet Two teenagers steal glances at one another From across a bonfire Before coming together to go for a walk Along the beach What could be more romantic I was just going to say that's romance at it's peak Well, during their walk, one of them, Chrissy, decides she wants to go for a late night swim. What's more romantic than that? I'm not late night swimming. Me neither. So I'm not with this boy either because the boy, having had too much to drink, stumbles and passes out on the beach. Terrible. Romance gone. Yeah, romance absolutely dead. Chrissy's like, you know what? I'm going to take my little swim by myself. So she goes to take the swim and she stops for a moment. She's catching her breath. She's looking up at the pretty night sky. It's gorgeous. Beautiful. Real moment of peace and calm and self-reflection, you know? And then she's briefly yanked downward from something beneath her. And this is such an icon. I can see this scene in my head. Because she has this look in her face where she's like confused, scared, but kind of just like a, like a, huh. Like you can tell it's just a joke. What the fuck was that? She's like Ashton Kutcher. And then she is violently dragged through the water. Her body is whipped back and forth in this completely unnatural motion. She's screaming in pain and terror. And then she just disappears onto the surface and we never see her again. Bye, Chrissy. That's it. Bye, Chrissy. The next morning, local police find a severed arm on the beach. And it is all that's left of Chrissy. Rip. Damn. What a way to begin a movie. In the 50 years since its release, the production and release of Jaws, has definitely become the stuff of legends. You know, an unexpected blockbuster with record profits that introduced the world to one of Hollywood's most highly decorated and widely praised directors, of course, Steven Spielberg. The one, the only. But we know now, pretty unintentionally, introduced the world to what would become one of humankind's most feared and fearsome enemies. Yes. Like our arch nemesis, not mine, but hopefully not yours, but what was thought of as our arch nemesis, the shark. The shark. Beginning with the moment Chrissy is dragged beneath the water to her death, audiences that watch Jaws spend two hours watching one of the world's oldest living animal groups be demonized and recast as a complete villain in a horror movie. I know, poor sharks. They really do get a bad rap. Yeah, and it was shown as something that stalks and kills its human prey with honestly, like, cunning and, like, malicious intention. I was just going to say literal intent. Like intent. But in reality, shark attacks are so fucking rare, guys. According to the Florida Museum of Natural History, there are less than 100 shark bites, bites every year, with roughly half being, quote, unprovoked. Typically, you know, that's the result of the shark mistaking a person for its normal prey. Yeah. So it's like. Makes sense. You know. But fear of sharks and fear of shark attacks, it's pretty understandable, of course, because they're so foreign looking to us. You know what I mean? It's also the whole prospect of being eaten alive. And that's the thing that even by mistake. Right. If I can be eaten alive, that's scary. It's kind of a big deal. It's kind of like hippos are scary as fuck and we should be scared of hippos. But sharks are a totally different situation. Like hippos fucking hate us and they want to hurt us. they want to eat the shit out of us they want to eat the shit out of you they are pissed at you for even existing sharks are not the same i'm so sorry quick quick little uh divergence here i was watching tiktoks yesterday and this one girl i think she was in i forget where she was but her driver was like i can cross the river in the car and she was like no you can't and the driver crossed the river in the car and there was hippos in the water now isn't that horrifying hippos will fuck you up in ways you can't understand. And they will like, they get pissed just by seeing you. Yeah, they scare the shit out of me. And they're fast. And they can run really fast underwater. I don't like, underwater they can? They run really fast underwater. They're like made for that. And they swim fast. Yeah. Those big old scary bitches can go fast. I don't like that. And they're fast on land. They're scary. Yeah, that's horrifying. Yeah. But sharks, not the same. Those are two examples of things that we look at And we go, holy shit, that thing is so huge and can eat me alive. And that's terrifying. One of them wants to. One of them doesn't. Yeah. So, and that's the thing. Like, sharks are huge. Like, a lot of them are huge. Yeah, they're real big. They move really fast. And even an accidental or exploratory bite by a shark can have serious consequences because they're so big and fast. I love the concept of an exploratory bite. Which they, that is a thing with sharks. I know. They'll just be like, hmm. Maybe. Like, let me just see. Just a little taste test. I just want to see if you're actually a fish and then they take a bite of you and they're like, oh, that wasn't what I wanted. It's like me with a cheese plate. I'm like, this one could be good. Nope. Nope. Don't like that one. You know? Now, Jaws not only exploited the understandable and actually probably pretty healthy fear of sharks, to be honest, it exacerbated it. Yeah, a lot. It created a monster out of an ordinary, you know, pretty imposing, though, animal that has existed far longer than we have, leading to stereotypes about sharks, particularly the great white shark, that caused hordes of commercial and casual fishermen to hunt, kill, and display them without regard for their population or their ecological importance. That's really fucked up. Now, both Spielberg and Benchley, who were like all the people who worked on the film, they did go on to publicly state that they had a lot of regret for how they unintentionally contributed to the overfishing and general demonization of sharks. And they stress that Jaws is a work of fiction and shouldn't be taken as anything else. That's like, don't be scared that like a dream demon is going to come and stalk your teenagers. Like it's a movie. It's a fiction. It's so annoying when people have to explain like what should be a pretty widely understood concept. That like fiction is fake. Yeah. Yeah. But the fact is, while it is a work of fiction, there's at least one instance in American history where the stereotypes and fears inspired by Jaws were very reasonable. So these were like intentionally angry sharks. These are pretty, pretty gnarly. This was called these in the summer of 1916. It was called the Summer of Blood. Fuck. Which is the most metal thing I've ever heard. I've never heard of this. Yeah. Now, this summer, Americans were waiting on pins and needles to learn whether, you know, their kids were going to be called up to fight in the Great War that was unfolding in Europe. But the nation's, you know, our privileged class, they started prepping for long summer vacations at beaches and lakes across the country. Different vibes. So, you know, among them was Dr. Eugene Van Zandt, a widely respected physician who had come of age during the latter half of the 19th century and now was nearing retirement. And so liked to spend his summers by taking his entire family to Beach Haven in New Jersey. Nice. That summer felt very important to Van Zandt with the American Medical Association calling for, quote, preparedness camps to train American doctors for field service. You know, should the Americans join the fight in Europe, the likelihood that his oldest son, Charles, who was like 23 at the time, would be called in to fight. It was kind of becoming more inevitable with each passing day. But for the time being, at least, Dr. Van Zandt wanted to make the most of the time they had and enjoy this vacation with his family. Yeah, I totally got that. And they did this a lot. They went there like almost every summer. Now, at the time, very few like civilians and just like lay people, essentially, really understood the ecology of the world's waterways or how the currents carried a big variety of sea life in and out of areas through the year. in later years beach haven residents and visitors were shocked to find you know all this kind of marine life that they had never seen before being pulled from the water by amateur fishermen they're like where the fuck are these coming from like blue marlins yeah a 1,150 pound mako shark those are both native to the tropics so people were like where the fuck are they coming from right they just didn't know that that's something that can happen uh and again no one especially civilians could have had any idea that during this particular summer in 1916, a lone great white shark had become thrown off by the chaos of the Gulf Stream and found itself swimming along the New Jersey coastline, growing increasingly hungry in the absence of its typical larger prey. Okay, that breaks my fucking heart. So he's just alone and hungry. Lonely and hungry? Yeah. I know this is going to get real bad, but I feel really badly for him. Yeah. Now, in the early afternoon of July 1st, Dr. Van Zant's, again, 23-year-old son Charles, rose from his spot on the beach and walked into the water. Oh, no. He basically stopped when the water reached his knees, and he started playing with this Chesapeake Bay Retriever dog. Don't worry, the dog is going to be safe. Thank you so much. But that's the only one that's safe. Okay. So, you know, the dog was just in the water. He was in the water. He had grown up with dogs, so he like instantly bonded with this dog. And he had seen him on the beach. And a family member said it seemed just normal that Charles would just like hook on to this animal and just end up playing with the animal. Yeah Even at like 23 You know so they were just running around playing together They were being rambunctious in the water together Oh my God that so cute Splashing yelling chasing each other Like adorable And in no time, Charles had fully immersed himself in the water and was swimming after the dog, who then in turn would swim after Charles if Charles ran away. So they were like going back and forth chasing each other. They were just having the summer day of their lives. Now, above the surface of the water, anyone could see the unmistakable signs of play. and the sounds of happiness and fun that was happening with Charles and his new furry friend as they were swimming and splashing. But below the surface, from a distance away, the sight and sounds of Charles and the dog would have looked and sounded decidedly different. In fact, to an animal expertly attuned to signals of distress from potential prey, the noise and disturbance caused by Charles and the dog were exactly the type of chaos that would draw in a hungry shark. So swimming several miles from the shore, this lone great white would certainly have received these signals being admitted by Charles and the dog, and it would have turned into sound waves. And then he would take those sound waves and he would follow them back to their point of origin. That's so fucking scary. It's crazy how they're literally just designed to hunt. Yes. That is what is fascinating about sharks. It is very fascinating. They're literally designed for this. And it's not like they just hear it. It's like sound waves. Right. And they can track those sound waves. Right. Like what? From below and several yards away, Charles would have appeared to the shark as a large dark shape. Yeah. Which is precisely the kind of prey the great white was accustomed to eating and hadn't been able to eat. And better Yet, at least from the shark's perspective, his vigorous splashing indicated distress, which meant the shark wasn't going to have to expend a lot of energy to get this prey either. Right. Also, according to ichthyologist George Burgess, it is widely accepted as fact that swimming with dogs is far more likely to attract the attention of a shark. Really? I never have heard that before. So Burgess says the irregular swimming actions of animals are extremely attractive to sharks. The front paws, doggy paddling, creating a maximum splash, and the rear legs, bicycle peddling, four rapidly moving legs make a blending motion at the surface, and it couldn't be a whole lot more attractive to a shark. Interesting. Of course, in 1916, neither Charles or really anybody would have known that the noise they made was all but slapping the great white shark in the face, drawing it closer and closer with more motion. So from the beach, a small crowd had gathered and they were watching Charles and the dog kind of like play with each other. And by then, Charles had started swimming out towards the diving dock, anchored about 100 yards or so from the shore. Both he and the dog had passed all the other swimmers in the water when a cheer rose from the onlookers at the shore. So maybe he decided, you know, they'd swim out too far or maybe he sensed something Charles couldn't. But for whatever reason, the dog suddenly turned and started swimming back towards the shore. That's actually very interesting, too. I think that's so interesting. You have to wonder if he sent something. His dogs are so in tune. Yeah. And if he was trying to kind of tell him, like, why don't you follow me, bud? Yeah. Like, we've been following each other. Just follow me back here. Right. Oh, dogs. We don't deserve them. When he realized his companion, his furry companion, had abandoned him, Charles turned and called out to the dog. but by then the dog had reached the shore and was going up on the beach wow that's actually yeah i'm very interested by that so charles sisters would remember that moment for the rest of their lives they watched as their brother accepted that you know he wasn't gonna play with his dog anymore um and he decided okay i'm gonna head back to the beach too so the dog did give him a signal of some kind i don't think he got a distress signal yeah clearly but i think he could signal something in his brain told him because i we are so connected to dogs i feel like I agree. That it's like, I wonder if he was like, I'm going to follow him. Yeah, yeah. I won't go back. Then one of the other bystanders noticed something else in the water. A dark fin had appeared behind Charles, who was now swimming steadily towards the shore. This always sounds like fiction. Like whenever you hear about a shark attack and people are like, we saw the fin. It's like. But that's exactly what happens. Oh, my God. And someone among the crowd shouted, watch out. But Charles was too far out to hear them. And even if he had, there was little he could have done. That's the thing. Watch out. Like, what are you going to do? Once a great white has decided to attack, it moves with incredible speed and it bites with 4,000 pounds of force. Wow. Jaws full of sharp, jagged teeth that are designed for tearing and ripping. Oh. Now, the cries from the beach grew louder, but I don't think Charles could really hear them. His head was going from side to side and dipping below the surface as he was swimming. According to many researchers, as the shark got close to Charles, it would have received the final indication that what it was tracking was indeed prey. It would hear the thumping of Charles' heart as he swam. That is diabolical. doesn't that just send a fucking chill down your spine that is dia fucking molecule this is like in the sinking of the indianapolis with the plates with the plates that they could pick it up over the sonar just the clinking of a plate together hunting in general and like the just the different strategies yeah and or just like things that were like predisposed with yeah does that make sense yeah like it's just so crazy evolution is insane it's really you just can't conceive of this kind of shit and it's fascinating to me i mean you could i could just do a hundred different episodes of this podcast on like predators yeah and maybe we should because it's really we could start we could start a new series i mean like a predator series in and of itself is about predators yeah is that like animal predators like the fact that it gets closer to him and then the last little clink of like, okay, this is prey that I'm following. Is it can hear his heartbeat? Like something about that just sent me. Now, if Charles had looked down at that moment, he would have seen his own shadow reflected off the sandy ocean floor because he wasn't that deep anymore. I hate that he wasn't even that deep anymore. And he would have seen beside him something much larger. But by that point, Charles was swimming in a little over three feet of water. I think that happens actually pretty frequently which is fucking terrifying it does and the shore was very much in reach but by then it was too late the crowd on the beach watched in horror as the shark exploded out of the water and grabbed charles's left leg just below the knee charles let out a scream that could be heard as far away as the resort tennis courts wow as the water around him turned from just nice greenish blue to dark churning red because again you like what did you say 4 000 pounds of just force. That's crazy. According to author Michael Capuzzo, it is common for shark attack victims to experience painless torture, to greatly underestimate the severity of their wounds, which you see a lot. Painless torture. Because you go into shock, I think, almost immediately. In that moment, Charles would have surely had no idea what was happening, and he probably wouldn't have felt a lot of any, a lot or any pain. Interesting. He would, however, have realized that something had grabbed him and was trying to drag him under the water. And his instincts would have been to fight hard to get away, obviously. From the beach, the crowd watched in disbelief as Charles struggled with the shark to free himself, but his struggle only caused the animal to bite down harder. Yeah. It had made the calculated decision to attack and it wouldn't have done so if it wasn't fully intending on keeping its prey. Once it makes the decision, it's going to be hard for it to end. Louise Van Zandt, his sister, said, everyone was horrified to see my brother thrashing about in the water as if he were struggling with some monster under the surface, which must have been fucking terrifying to watch. And you can't, what can you do? That's the thing. I was just sitting here thinking that exact thought. What do you do? This freaks me out even more. So just as suddenly as it had started, the attack stopped. as nearly a dozen men entered the surf shouting and making a large commotion the shark released charles from its mouth taking with it nearly all of his calf holy shit but as the men got nearer to charles and started pulling him towards the shore the shark didn't retreat entirely yeah instead it was hovering nearby watching as its prey was pulled away as though it might attack again today and this is fucking crazy this behavior is understood as basically it's one of the great whites especially more common tactics it inflicts a very serious bite like it goes hard first then it waits for the around the prey and it waits for the prey to slow or stop altogether because that ensures that it expends no more energy than necessary wow so to inflict that insane bite incapacitate the prey watch as it bleeds out or just at least slows down where they don't have to fight with it and then it will go back in because it's like i don't want to expend any more energy on this so it was sitting there watching them pull him away being like no like leave him there i'm waiting for him to to stop so it's like confused isn't that fucking crazy it is it is now at that time the behavior was so fucking eerie to these people everyone who saw this was like it's Just fucking sitting there watching. It's watching us. Like stalking. Yeah. Like just watching what it had set in motion here. Just seeing how it panned out essentially is what it looked like. Now by the time the first swimmer, Alexander Ott, reached Charles in the water, the shark had now vanished from sight after he got there. Interesting. Okay. Although they didn't know it at the time or at least hadn't given much thought about it, the decision to enter the bloody water after an active shark attack was very courageous and very dangerous to do. So Ott had just grabbed Charles under his arm and was pulling him to shore when he felt a hard tug pull it backwards. Oh, fuck. The shark had returned because he was waiting. Uh-huh. And this time it had grabbed Charles tightly by the thigh and was attempting to pull him under. Oh, fuck. Ott immediately found himself in a tug of war as a line of men created a human chain into the water for Ott to grab onto. Wow. Well, the men managed to get Charles to the beach with the shark following the entire way. It appeared to many, they said, as though the shark was going to come out of the water and onto the beach. I was just going to say, was the shark like beached? Yeah, they literally were like, it looked like it was about to start walking onto the beach. Holy fuck. Like that's how closely it was following. One observer said the shark held on until it scraped bottom. Wow. Then it let go and swam away. Wow. Yeah. I can't imagine watching this from the beach. How do you recover? I obviously can't imagine experiencing that, but watching it, I would never ever get in a body of water ever again in my life. I don't think I'd ever go to the beach again. No, honestly. Which I don't like the beach anyways, but I definitely wouldn't like the beach then. No, because it would just be so traumatizing. But you hear about people that literally have been attacked by sharks and get right back in the water. Which is insane. Insane, like good. Like surfers, like that girl who got her fucking arm. Soul surfer. Soul surfer. She got her arm bitten off and is back to surfing. I was just talking to Drew about that movie. That's wild that you said that. Every so often in the shower, I'll just wash my hair with like one arm and like try to do things with one arm. Because I remember that movie after she got attacked and just like the struggles that she had to overcome. You don't think about how difficult it is to do something with just one arm. Yeah. Like it's bonkers. And then to go back to that. I'm sorry. I'm not that. I'm not that brave. Also, surfing with one arm, it's all about balance. I can't imagine how hard that would be. Outrageous. Now, on the beach, everyone stood around Charles in a complete state of shock, pretty stunned by what they just witnessed, and they gathered around him to try to provide aid or just to see what the fuck was going on. When she got close enough to see her brother, Louise Van Zandt fainted. She said his leg was completely mangled, missing large chunks of muscle and flesh, like just gone. From the parlor of the resort, Dr. Eugene Van Zandt rushed down the boardwalk and onto the beach where he found his son crumpled on the sand with blood pouring out of massive wounds on his leg. What a great time to be a doctor though. Yeah. But Dr. Van Zandt dropped down beside him and he's determined to save his son's life. He's a doctor. Yeah. But they were far from any hospital or medical facility of any kind and he lacked even the most basic supplies that he needed here. I mean you're at the beach, you're on vacation. Yeah. More than that, never in Dr. Van Zandt's career had he seen wounds like the ones Charles had sustained. And he said he didn't even know where to begin to stop the bleeding. He didn't even know where to put anything. Well, because like you said, his leg is like mangled. Yeah, he said it was coming from everywhere. That's the thing. It's not like it's just clean cut off. Exactly. Alexander Ott began, like women were tearing pieces of fabric from their dresses and giving them to Alexander in order to tie off the limb and try to like staunch any of the blood flow. And in the meantime, Dr. Van Zandt had been joined by two other doctors who happened to be on the beach. Wow, what are the odds? But like Van Zandt himself, neither of them knew what they could do because again, they don't even know where to stop the bleeding either. You're also on the fucking beach. Yeah, exactly. Sand, all that shit too. So they carried Charles up to the hotel where at least they would have a clean surface and soap and water to try to clean. He has like sand and shit in the wound. They laid him on the desk in the manager's office, but despite the makeshift tourniquets and the heavy bleeding was just continuing. and there under the lamplight in the office Dr. Van Zandt just had to watch helplessly as his son bled to death oh my god little did they know though it would be just the first of such deaths that were going to occur that July oh no now for as long as humans have been going into the ocean there have been shark attacks even though they are very rare yeah they still happen but the attack on Charles Van Zandt was among the first if not the first time such an attack had been witnessed by such a large group of people on shore Like I think this might have been the first time I wonder like this is gonna sound so ridiculous but I wonder like when going to the beach became a thing no it true do you know what I mean I'm gonna google it who looked at sand next to water and was like that seems like it would be the most luxurious thing on earth like I want to know who thought that when did going to the beach that's actually that's a very good question do you know what I mean become popular in the mid to late 18th and 19th centuries all right so we're kind of early in the beach days yeah you know yeah we're still trying to figure out this beach thing here it seems like for leisure though it actually was around the 1920s so this makes perfect sense oh yeah so this is like really and then apparently the 60s were the considered the golden age of beach culture oh yeah because that's like where those beach party movies are you know with like moon doggy and the Yeah, like that makes sense. So having no context or precedence for such an event, the experience of watching a man being mauled by a shark was nothing short of traumatic and immediately attracted the attention of the press, drawing reporters from New York and Philadelphia, as well as the Associated Press. Michael Capuzzo wrote, the number of people who witnessed the attack seemed to grow by the hour because actual witnesses came in, but they were joined by countless others who claimed to have seen it happen. That's so fucked up. Why would you pretend like you saw that? Don't insert yourself into a tragedy. Yeah, I don't want to pretend like I saw that. To those who actually witnessed the attack, there was no denying what had done it. They may not have known what kind of shark it was, but the shape of its body and the sight of its mouth was no doubt a shark. Others, though, minimize the seriousness of the incident, claiming it could have been a large tuna or even a great sea turtle. Y'all. When the fuck have you seen that happen? Neighbor. Neighbor. A great tuna? A great tuna. Guys. Guys, hello. A great big tuna. I don't know about that. Now, despite the conflicting theories, the coroner joined the consensus and listed Charles' death as, which this was definitely a hemorrhage from femoral artery. Yeah. Which was the result of being bitten by a shark while bathing. It was the first time in American history that a shark bite appeared on a death certificate. Isn't that crazy? It is. Dr. Vincent confirmed the coroner's report in the witness statements describing the animal that killed his son as being, quote, nine feet long and weighed probably 500 pounds. Damn. Now, the attack on Vincent had been entirely unprovoked and should have warranted at least a warning of caution to beachgoers. But what they got was pretty much the opposite. In an article published the following day, New Jersey Fish Commissioner, which like, pause. imagine being like that i know that's like a real thing yeah what a title to behold fish commissioner the new jersey the new jersey fish commissioner i would just call myself the fish commission i was just gonna say that you literally were in my head holy shit i was gonna be like the new jersey fish commission i'm the commission fish if he's not do if you are currently the new jersey fish commissioner. Only the New Jersey one. And you do not call yourself the New Jersey Fish Commish. What are you doing? What are you doing? I hope this reaches the New Jersey Fish Commish. Please become the New Jersey Fish Commish. I'm obsessed. So this New Jersey Fish Commish, James Meehan, told a reporter, despite the death of Charles Van Zandt and the report that two sharks had been caught in the vicinity recently, I do not believe there's any reason why people should hesitate to go in swimming at beaches for fear of man eaters. But one of them ate a man. So, like, I think you should be a little worried about that. Also, I'm just, how could you not be? Is self-preservation not a thing? That's, and also, you just lifted all the reasons why we should be a little hesitant. You said that there was an attack where someone died and then two sharks were caught. I feel like those are all very valid reasons to not go in there. Pretty freaked out by that fish commish. Yeah. Now, it would have done little good for them to terrify beach goers, especially during the area's most profitable time of the year. Yeah, I was going to say July. But Fish Commish Meehan went a step further, minimizing the attack and the repeated shark sightings from fishermen in the area. He said, in the first place, the information in regards to the sharks is indefinite. And from what I have read, I should hardly believe that young Van Zandt was attacked by a man-eater. What do you think he was attacked by then? He was a man and he was eaten. Correct. By something in the sea. And also like indefinite? No, he died. No, he died. And also how fucking terrible to the family. Yeah, to minimize that, to just be like, I don't know. Yeah. Fuck you. He went on to theorize that it was probably a small shark that had become trapped in the surface, and in passing it had, quote, snapped at Van Zandt. Snapped and bit his leg off, resulting in death? Like, that's not a snap, babe. And further emphasized the message that there was no need to exercise any additional risk. Wow. In fact, the commissioner assured readers that any sharks in the area were wanderers and harmless. So there was no need to be concerned. He essentially said the sharks just chilling. And he said XOXO fish commish. Fish commish. Under most circumstances, he probably would have been right, obviously. Like, yeah, they're rare. You don't need to be horribly fearful of sharks. you need to be alert and you need to be knowledgeable and you need to be listening and aware of your surroundings and like look up what sharks think are fish and shit. I think it's also one of those things like I'm thinking like how do you not have self-preservation watch go in the water after this happened but I think it's one of those things where people say like okay well that just happened. So the probability. What are the odds that it's going to happen again? Turns out the odds are pretty good that they're going to happen again. Now, on the afternoon of July 6, 27-year-old Charles Bruder, a manager with the Essex and Sussex Hotel, was eager to show off his swimming skills for the bellhops who worked under him at the hotel. Obsessed. He had gained a reputation as one of the strongest swimmers at the hotel, and having the morning off, he had hoped to demonstrate those skills publicly. Listen, I get it. Well, and even more, two other hotel employees had beaten his record that afternoon, so he was like, no, this can't stand. No, it cannot. So by that time, the news of the attack on Charles Van Zandt, and it's weird that his name is Charles as well. I was also thinking that. It is the early 1900s, so I think everyone's name was Charles. The news had reached Spring Lake, about 45 miles from Beach Haven. About 45 miles. And just that morning, the staff had been discussing the story. But Charles Bruder dismissed the concerns because he was like, I've gone swimming off the coast of California in previous summers, and I've seen much larger and more imposing sharks than the one described by the press. So he's like, it's fine. We have nothing to fear. In fact, he had worked for a resort in Los Angeles the previous summer and he was an avid fisherman and outdoorsman. So there was probably a lot of truth to that. He probably had seen bigger sharks and probably even swam in water that had bigger sharks. But also perhaps different kinds of sharks. Well, that's in just because you've seen bigger ones and they didn't eat you doesn't mean you shouldn't exercise a little caution. That's just good luck, doll. But again, during this time period, so little was known about sharks feeding habits and like the ecological shit about it. That like why they're here, why this one could be here, how hungry it could be, how confused it could be. Right. That's important to highlight. That afternoon, Bruder headed down to the bathhouses on the beach and changed into a swimwear. He was like, I'm going to reclaim this fucking title. That day, he had hoped to go for a four mile swim, which is insane. But he didn't have the time, so he decided to focus on speed rather than distance. Along with two other bellhops, he entered the water in the Essex and Sussexes South End Bathing Pavilion and began putting on a show for the small group of onlookers. I'm sorry, but Bathing Pavilion is horrifying to me. Doesn't it sound gross? It really does. From the beach, the group watched as Bruder swam straight out into the deeper waters, dipping below the safety ropes and popping up on the other side. Now, just a few days earlier, a major storm had swept through the area and it had churned up the water. But on that day, everything was clear and sunny. According to Michael Capuzzo, and this is a quote, as graceful as Bruder appeared from the shore, his movements were sprawling rough, almost obscenely graceless for a creature of the sea. Dang. Which, like, he is not a creature of the sea. I was just going to say, he's a human. Yeah. As he swam, his limbs slapped the surface of the water, causing small rippling waves out into the ocean. It's unlikely that he knew it at the time, but his movements, much like Van Zandt's, when he was playing with the dog, were very similar to those of a fish or other marine life in distress. Basically, exactly the type of commotion a shark would recognize from miles away and come on down to investigate. From their position on the shore, the spectators wouldn't have been able to see anything but the outline of Bruder as he swam. But Bruder himself, consumed with his performance, because he's trying to win his title back, he surely never saw the great white stalking him at all. Without warning, the shark struck from behind with incredible, violent force in what witnesses later described as, quote, a massive spray of water rising out of the ocean. In that moment, a woman on the beach alerted the lifeguards, telling them, the man in the red canoe is upset. But when they looked, they saw no canoe. It was only later that it occurred to the lifeguards that the red canoe was in fact a massive spray of blood that had rapidly spread across the surface of the water. Oh, fuck. She thought he was in a red canoe. Holy shit. The two lifeguards, Captains George White and Chris Anderson, grabbed their small rescue boat and charged into the water because lifeguards are badass. They really are. By then, the shark had completely removed one of Bruder's legs. And by the time they reached him in the water, the animal had managed to rip the other leg from Bruder's body. Oh, shit. Sending him, quote, pinwheeling above the surface of the sea with incredible force. Pinwheeling. I can't even really picture that. As they attempted to grab Bruder and pull him into the boat, the shark charged again, grabbing Charles at his abdomen and pulling him down under the water before he emerged again. And to the surprise of the lifeguards, Charles Bruder managed to shout, a shark bit me. Holy shit. So they managed to get a hold of him and lift him onto the boat. Wow. And they were surprised by how light he was. But of course, once they got him in the boat, they realized he was so easy to come from the water because there was very little of him to lift from the water. Oh, how horrible. As they carefully laid him on the floor of the boat, they realized he was missing both legs. Both were ripped off at the knees and there was a huge chunk missing from his stomach. Oh, fuck. Needing to stop the bleeding and get help immediately, one of the men rode frantically back to the shore while the other pulled off his shirt and started tearing strips to tie the wounds. Also, how fucking terrifying to be in that boat. I can't even fathom this. That shark could just eat that whole boat. Yeah, look what he just did. Unfortunately, the carnage was just too great and the wounds too severe to stop with strips of fabric. I mean, a chunk missing from your stomach and two missing legs. Despite the massive, this is, this blows my mind. And this is, for this man, I wish this was not true. Oh God. Because despite all of it, the massive damage he sustained and the copious amounts of blood just pouring from him, he remained conscious throughout the entire ordeal and even managed to describe the shark for lifeguards and wait until you hear how he describes it and and picture him in your head what he is going through he said he was a big gray fellow and rough as sandpaper he cut me here in the side and his belly was so rough it bruised my face and arms he's a big fellow and awfully hungry. Oh. I don't know why that just like breaks my heart. Not the shark being a fellow. He's a big fellow and he's awfully hungry. Even he was like he's very hungry. Oh. Like holy shit. This is just devastating. And when he finished speaking he closed his eyes and finally lost consciousness. Oh. By the time the boat had reached the shore he was dead. Yeah. Now even to those familiar with the behavior of sharks it seemed unlikely that one would travel such a long distance. in a relatively short amount of time just to find food when there was plenty of fish in the Beach Haven area. Did it have anything to do with the storm? That could definitely be it. But in the wake of Bruder's death, it was impossible for anyone, reporters and beachgoers the same, to ignore that there was a connection here between the Beach Haven attack and the attack on Charles Bruder. They were like, this can't be two different sharks. Also, there was something about these attacks that seemed atypical. because in most cases of shark attacks, humans are bitten when they are mistaken for the shark's natural food source or because they have provoked the attack. In these cases, though, it seemed like the animal was actively stalking human prey, striking again and again long after it would have realized it had bitten into something other than a seal or food. Do you think it just didn't care at that point because it was so hungry? I think that might have been it because that is very atypical for a shark. once it realizes you're a human nine times out of ten it's really not going to want to continue interesting like it's you did that's i mean like soul surfer like it's like that it's an that's what an exploratory bite is it's a bite to be like oh shit this is yeah and then it's like oh you know i mean like oh that's not what i usually go for and yeah maybe in a small amount of the time it'll make the the decision to just keep going but nine times out of ten it doesn't want to i wonder if in this case and it sounds like crazy but i wonder if in this case it was a out of desperation. Yeah, it was just so hungry. Right. But like you said, there's fish elsewhere, but maybe not. But if it's big enough. But if it sees something big. Right. You know. Because they, I mean, I think great whites attack seal populations. Yeah. And I'm sure these people, like, from their point of view, look like seals. Now, unlike the previous attack, the attack on Charles Bruder inspired a panic not just to everyone in the water and on the beach that day but those staying at resorts and vacation spots all over Jersey Shore Yeah because you literally going to enjoy the shore Yeah. At Spring Lake, where the attack occurred, armed lifeguards patrolled the waters just beyond the safety ropes. And the village administration also approved the use of heavy mesh wire netting, which was run all along the bathing area near the Essex and Sussex Hotel. Oh, that's like so inhumane. I know. In other places, bathers and swimmers became hypervigilant with some choosing to stay out of the water altogether, which like, yeah. In Ashbury Park, a lifeguard in a surf boat told reporters he encouraged a large shark about 12 feet long while patrolling the bathing area of the beach, which he drove off by hitting it on the snout with his oar. Mean. I know. The scene was witnessed by several people on the shore who saw the lifeguard slapping at the water with his oars right before he returned to the beach to warn the bathers. I mean, at least he was like trying to deter him. He's just trying to get him away. You know. Despite the precautions put in place by state and local authorities, many swimmers remained wary of going too far out in the water. One local journalist wrote, expert opinion has been freely offered, and much of it has been contradictory and largely related to fiction. And there's been considerable speculation here today as to whether it was really a shark that attacked Charles Bruder at Spring Lake. Guys. Like, guys. It was a shark. Both times. In fact, just like the Van Zandt attack, many people found it hard to believe that a shark, something that existed more, especially at this point in time. Because you have to remind yourself of the time period, for sure. 1916. Sharks existed more in the imagination of people than in real life. Like people were just like running around seeing sharks. They couldn't believe that it had done something so horrific that that's the outcome. They chose instead to believe, which I don't really understand this part, they chose to believe that the attack was something more common and familiar, like a fucking tuna or a big turtle. Yeah, I don't know about that. Neither of which was known to rip people limb from limb without provocation. Right. So I don't know why that felt more comfortable for everybody. it doesn't feel more comfortable for me to lay my head at night thinking a turtle no definitely not or a large tuna which is what i think is almost scarier yeah i just think of the office too because andy calls jim big tuna and then he'll and it's at one point he wants to get his attention he just goes large tuna and then i just think of it every time i hear this So I'm just like, I'm not just thinking of like Jim Halpert out in the sea biting people. Just nom-nobbing. Yeah. Now, like a scene pulled straight from Jaws many decades later, the panic and fear inspired by the shark attacks grew quickly from a whisper to a full fucking fever pitch. To the point that it became an actual material threat to the resorts and local businesses. I mean, yeah, that makes sense. They were fearing that reservations were going to be canceled. Right. And to their credit, many within the local press did do their best to report the facts in like a calm and rational tone. Reminding visitors that the appearance of sharks near the shore was very rare. The Ashbury Park Press reminded readers, never in the history of local bathing have sharks been known to frequent the bathing waters, but every precaution to ensure safety of the bathers will be taken. Now, despite the reasonable attempts to protect the bathers, and the relatively even tone on the matter from the press, the public's fear of sharks was only growing, especially following the Bruder attack. A writer for the New York Times wrote, the death of Bruder renewed the controversy that is waged for years as to whether a shark will attack a man. By that point, whether they would or wouldn't attack a human seemed like a settled matter, so several news outlets shifted their attention to how swimmers could protect themselves. The Times quoted one sailor as saying, it's no use trying to dodge a shark when you're in the water. the best thing you can do when a shark comes along if you can't get out of the water in time is to shout as loud as you can and to splash the water with your hands and feet no apparently it never occurred to the sailor that it was precisely that behavior that had drawn the shark to van zandt and brooder in the first place isn't it again we didn't know anything right so i think they're probably thinking of it like a fucking bear yeah if you just like no bang bang clang clang no like if you do that to a i mean not all bears react i was literally just gonna say that black bears i think because black bears are more scared of you if you do that to a grizzly bear it'll rip your face off a grizzly bear will fuck you up no matter what you do you stand still it kills you you come across a grizzly bear rest in peace my friend i don't know what any advice to tell you but you know what i pick the grizzly bear oh yeah in that whole scenario every time grizzly bear but if black bear we have black bears all over the place i actually saw one last summer they're so fucking cute really luckily i was in the comfort of my car and passing by you don't ever want to go near one no leave them alone you want to get the fuck out of there you don't want to but they don't want to deal with you either no it was actually a baby that i saw oh my oh yeah you want to stay the fuck away from i sure did i was in my car and we kept driving but i was like oh my god oh my god the girls will never in our lives forgive john's ignorance to that so funny we were driving down we were in the berkshires actually visiting the berkshires and we saw a baby bear a black bear yeah out the like in the woods right next to our car when we were like parked somewhere yeah and john john loves a furry creature he got out of the car and was like oh my god look at this cute girl you're like get in the car three of the girls were like dada and i was like get back to the car he's like it's a baby and i was like exactly i didn't even have to say it all three of my kids were like mama's around get in the bed like they were like get in the fucking car it's like a bluey episode yeah to this day they're like remember when dad got out of the car and wanted to say hi to a baby bear when you know the mom was around and would have eaten him or when the dogs went like after something and john went after them like into a creek by himself into a crick just out there a casual crick and either i'm trying to call him i'm like he's gonna die in a crick somewhere and the girls are like he didn't even bring his phone i know we're all just like Jesus. The girl, one thing about the girls is they will read John to filth. Poor John. It's the best. John is both the luckiest and unluckiest. Because he lives in a house. It is my three daughters. Yep. Me. And the two girl dogs. Two girl dogs and my mother-in-law. He has not one, and he loves it. I was going to say, that's why he's such a good guy. Yeah, he would have it no other way. But damn, can we all get enough fun? You know what, though? shout out shout out to all dads but shout out to the girl dads yeah shout out to all dads and shout out to the girl dads because they're you're a special breed it's true you know it's true and we give him so much shit and he takes it i love it shout out to john and sometimes he even gets me giving him shit he does i know the girl the other day they were like dad what does tt call you and he goes uh mostly like brunkel or jonathus and oh dad when she needs help yeah Dad, when she needs help. I always call John down, but I need help. Because he'll always go, Ashlina. Ashlina. And I'm like, okay, Dad. Sorry. You're like, Dad, I don't know what to do. I saw this. Wait, just one more fucking side tangent before we get there. I saw this TikTok the other day that was like me since I've known my brother-in-law since I was nine years old. And I was like, that's literally me. That's so true. And it's like fighting with your brother-in-law. You're like, whatever. And it's so true. Like he's my longest standing family. Yes, literally. I love that a lot. Anyway. Well, elsewhere in New Jersey and New York, others were taking more extreme measures to solve the problem. This upsets me. Oh, tell me they didn't shoot them. Fishermen set out in droves to hunt and kill anything that even resembled a shark. Oh. One reporter wrote, the bathers were quite satisfied to have men in motorboats guarding the waters, and they didn't care whether the game was bagged or not, so long as no sharks appeared near shore. Here's the thing. The ocean isn't ours. It's not ours. the ocean is in towers we're lucky they let us the fuck in there in the first place go swim in a lake truly go jump in a puddle i know up your bathtub me i know my ocean's not mine the ocean is not my place i also recently heard that there's black holes in the ocean that's the fucking weirdest and scariest thing i've ever heard in my life i don't know if it's fact because i did hear it on tiktok probably not but honestly let me confirm the fact that i have to sit there and say question it could be true i'm gonna because i don't think anything is impossible in the ocean no we don't we don't know enough about the ocean i think the ocean is so much scarier than space okay so there are no and this is from google there are no literal astronomical yeah i was gonna say there should be links but scientists have discovered massive ocean eddies that act very similar to them which makes sense these powerful swirling whirlpools particularly found in the southern ocean and the gulf of mexico create coherent boundaries that trap water and debris preventing anything from escape yeah no so that's it's like an ocean black hole that really is ocean black holes whirlpools trenches yeah no no it's not for me it's not i know that you can barely drive on the road anymore without there being sinkholes i respect it something's up i really do something something's up now by july 11th the waters around the jersey shore were teeming with boats, either filled with lifeguards or fishermen, all keeping their eyes firmly on the surface of the water. That's not nice. The nets and patrols gave the illusion of safety, while the boats and fishermen suggested the waters were safe for everyone and there was nothing to fear. The truth, though, was that despite the massive crowds of fishermen on the water, not a single one caught anything during this period. Wow. In fact, as they would come to learn, sometimes the illusion of safety isn't good enough. And what they really should have done was advised everyone to get the fuck out of the water until the problem was solved. Close the water. And that's where we're going to leave you for part one. Because part two, we have a whole other series of attacks called the Matawan Creek attacks. Oh. Not a crick. We were just talking about cricks. We were just talking about a crick and now we're going to be in a crick. See, our side quest worked out. And we have more attacks coming. Wow, this was really really sad in every possible way that it could be and fast fascinating like truly fascinating that bit about the heartbeat i never knew that before i've never i just said shart week i think i've watched a shit ton of shart week i swear i think that's what i just said and it took me a minute to i think you did say not shark week not shark week it's like greek hazing is shark week okay okay holy shit oh man i've watched a shit ton of shark week me too i love shark week but i don't think i've ever heard that fact that they hear your heartbeat they're like game on like game on i'm here yeah it really is that kind of stuff is always the most fascinating to me where it's like when like when it's just like something so biological and like evolutionary that just like you can't even conceive of that they can just like hear your heartbeat underwater like going underwater you can't hear someone's heartbeat but those fuckers can yeah they can and to know that something i think it's like so scary when it's so innocuous something else has something over you yeah evolution evolution wise you know what i mean like like that fact is like oh we no respect like i'm just like that's when i go i don't belong in here i don't belong in this water i firmly believe the ocean's not for us it's not it's certainly not for me i love to look at it oh yeah you can that's the thing look at it yeah i will look at it i will wave respect if you want to go in the ocean by all means go in the ocean but respect it because it's not for you yeah just make sure you're respecting it because fuck the ocean is the ocean the ocean is the ocean and we're you know part two it's gonna get it's gonna get crazy it is but we'll have a resolution do you have a fun fact i do texted us one about but mikey found an iconic i'm obsessed with this fact i hope you guys don't know it so humans share about 60 of their dna with bananas does Does that make you feel kind of weird about eating bananas? A little bit. You know what I'm saying? Also, there's an episode of Kif that is one of the funniest episodes of anything I've ever seen. Which one is it? I think it's called The Rotten Banana. I haven't seen that one. And it's about a sentient banana. Stop. Who, like, tries to take Kif over and, like, it's one of the funniest things I've ever seen. If you're kids, honestly, if you're not watching Kif. Yeah. I think we've talked about it once before, but I'm telling you. Go watch The Rotten Banana. We had a whole sleepover at my house for the girls recently and it was all Kif themed and it was one of the best sleepovers we've ever had. Hell yeah it was. Yeah. It was iconic. Hell yeah. So yeah, we hope you keep listening. And we hope you keep it weird. But that's weird that you morph into a banana because you're already pretty fucking close. You're real close. Careful. And respect the ocean. Respect the ocean. And sharks. And shark weep. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.