The Star Wars Holiday Special w/ Matt Gourley & Eden Sher (HDTGM Matinee)

A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away, a group of writers were tasked with writing a holiday special about Star Wars, but none of them ever saw Star Wars. We saw Star Wars, a holiday special, so you know what that means! Now it's time for... How to Discrevate Gonna have a good time, celebrate some failure, not just be a hater Could you know you wondered how to discrevate? Let's walk in the mediocrity of subpar art Perhaps we'll find the answer to the question, how did this get made? Hello people of Earth and welcome to How Did This Get Made? Our holiday edition. Normally we do movies on the podcast. We are doing something different today. We are focusing on a 1978 CBS television special that was made around Christmas time, focusing on Star Wars. If you have not seen it, I urge you right now to stop what you're doing and check it out. But now that you have all this warning in front of you, I now would like to introduce my co-host live from New York, Jason Manzuchus. In New York right now. In New York City celebrating life day! Yes, so excited. As the listeners of the show know, June does not celebrate life day and is very anti-life day, so she is not here, but we have some amazing guests joining. Does that mean that June is part of the empire? I'm just saying that June is brought up, imperial, and doesn't really celebrate kind of wookie celebrate. Does she celebrate the war on the hollet on life day? I don't want to talk about what she does. Yes, I mean, she believes that obviously that, you know, I don't want to tell you. Look, there's a lot of things going on with June and her beliefs, and we keep them very separate. So you just heard Matt Gorely who is joining us, and I would say the maker of so many great podcasts, but also a true Star Wars fan. From way back, I had to have seen this on TV. I have vague recollections of it. I would have been five when this was on, so there's no way I missed it. But then I was given a bootleg copy of this in the early 90s, which I treasured, and it had all the commercials intact, so this thing has been with me my whole life. And you know her from the middle, please welcome. Eden Cher, you have now you're a newer Star Trek, sorry, Star Wars convert. Yes, I only, I just saw the originals like a year and a half. I didn't even remember like actually seeing the second one. I feel like I watched it, but didn't like actually watch it. But yeah, I just saw them like a year and a half, two years ago, but then I saw the new one. Yeah, well, I love the new one. There's so much to talk about, but this special, this is crazy because I got like a DVD of this when I was a kid and I was like, whoa, this is crazy and weird, but I never watched the entire thing at all. It's impossible. It's impossible to sit through it all at one time. Did people, you got it, like people gave it as gifts for like it as a thing? It was, well, here's like the little bit of the backstory and it's all kind of a little bit documented. I'm gonna kind of give you my version of it. This was made, George Lucas says he had no involvement in it, but it has come out that he has had involvement in it. He had watched the dailies every day and he had asked for this to be about Wookiees on the planet of Kashik because he wanted to get into this in the Star Wars world. So he was a little hands on and then he also gave it to these writers like Pat Proft who wrote Airplane and Naked Gun and of course, Bruce Valanche who is right, TV's Bruce Valanche. Classic Valanche. There's so many classic Valanche bits in this. And none of them seem to have watched Star Wars at this point that this was being made. So you have writers who are not versed in the Star Wars universe writing a special for Star Wars. And but there are a lot of interesting things that we'll get into that kind of connect to the Star Wars canon. But yes, this was a failed thing and George Lucas has gone around and said if he had a sledgehammer in the time, he would go around and destroy every single existing copy of this. I'm pretty sure he has both of those now. But I think the internet has saved the Star Wars holiday special because you can't get it anywhere. It's not on DVD. You can't download it. No one wants you to see this and they shouldn't. Because it is. I mean, it's next level crazy. I mean, it really is garbage. It is not garbage. It's garbage. And I did watch this when it came out. I remember it. Well, to me, this is like the thing that's so crazy about it is it is your main characters are Wookiees who don't speak English and are not subtitled. God. I would. I would. The entire thing is in Wookiee except for the people that come into the Wookiee's life who are all TV and like Broadway stars from like the 1950s. I mean, Art Carney. I mean, the author Harvey Corman twice. Three times. Three times. Right. Yeah, it's insane. So let's talk about that because if they were household names, it was only because of Star Wars. Were they doing this to stay in the good graces of Lucas for the next parts of the trilogy? How did this happen? Or were they getting paid? Were they getting paid a ton? Like how much money did CBS put into this? I mean, I don't imagine it was a lot because when you look at it, it looks terrible. Yeah. It looks awful. Yeah. Yeah. They didn't put it on the screen. Yeah. It's not there. And I feel like every character or every actor that was involved like seems that they were there begrudgingly. No one wanted to be here. For sure. And yeah. This special is summed up by the initial showings of the three stars. So you get right in sequence Luke who's wearing strange amount of eyeliner. Yeah. That's another thing. You look like a little girl. I wrote down Mark Hamill, little girl. And then it cuts directly to Harrison Ford who does a really reluctant nod to camera. And those things, I think, sum up this holiday special completely. You know what you're in for. And it seems to me like this connection to Chewbacca's family, if we just want to even talk about thematically, I don't think that, I don't know if Luke has the best relationship with Chewbacca's family. But he does. It's like everybody knows Mala, Itchy, and Lumpy. Yeah. And there are, there's a certain point where they call Carrie Fisher and she's like, look, I don't want to tie up the line. Can you just put Chewbacca on the phone? Which even get Carrie Fisher is like, I don't want to talk to Lumpy and Mala. Let's get the main guy in. But like it just. His name is Chewbacca. Okay, that I get. Why, why did he name his son Itchy? And I can answer the name to Lumpy. I can answer this because I had the Wookiee storybook that went along with this. Oh my God. So Itchy, Lumpy, and Mala are all nicknames. So they're really long. Like Mala War Rump is her real name. Okay. It's like, it almost gets like so funky and all that. Do you feel like this was made retroactively after someone described it? Had to be to, to, uh, yeah, justify it. Had to be. There is something I noticed this time through right in the beginning when it cuts to the first ad that I think also may answer some questions about the where the American public was. Oh yeah, please. The first ad is for General Motors. Oh yeah. Our slogan is, I wrote it down, transportation to serve people. People building transportation to serve people. That, that is, couldn't be more literal and there's nothing catchy about that. And I think that these people making this probably are dealing with that public that would eat that up. People building transportation to serve people. That's just people building cars. That doesn't mean, doesn't mean your company's making anything good. That's basically trying to explain like, how did this car get here? Somebody made it. Don't worry, people built it. But it also goes to that there was no car, um, uh, competition. Like foreign imports were just starting to happen because the original commercials are like every third commercial is a union commercial too. Well, yeah, because I remember, I think on the copy that I watched for this, the commercial is like a guy like, I'm Ted Baker and I work, I make these cars and he just talks about his day of making Fords and he's like, he's like, I like the welding the most because it's, um, it's a real art. Yeah. Okay. I actually want to know though, how was the reception of it when it originally aired? Well, it only aired once. So that should tell you anything Christmas, it seems like it will air a million times. I mean, Lucas did buy every copy of it so no one can air it again. Wait, is that true? True or is that? That is true. True. Lucas did buy every single copy. So yeah, he could. So yeah, the master copies so, so it can never be broadcast. I wanted to show like the lackluster performance right off the top. This is Han and Chewie as they are kind of flying into life day. And you could just tell it was like one take only. That's it, I'm turning back. I know your family's waiting. I know it's an important day. All right, we'll give it a try. I said your coordinates won't jump off. I'll get you back there in time. Hell, trust me. So that's a little bit of a Han and... I'm going to lightspeed. Look, Han. That's just... The sound effects are actually louder than the actual dialogue. They're just going through the motions. And I just love though, it just, it grounds this world in a way that I don't want it grounded. Like it's like, why like, I don't think of Chewbacca having a family, nor do I want Chewbacca to have a family oddly. Right, yeah. Because it also implies that Han Solo is keeping him away for his family year after year, and he only gets to go home once a year. That's what I was thinking. I was like, is life day, is that the one time, is that the one time he goes home? This also brought up a question for me in the New Star Wars movie. I won't spoil anything, but it does harken back to something to this, that Chewbacca can see his family. Well, Chewbacca is a bad dad. I mean, that's what I'm learning right away. Yeah, that's what he's learning. And they all seem to love him. He's a deadbeat dad. He's a total deadbeat dad off fighting in the rebellion, while his family is home getting terrorized by storm troopers and imperial guards. But he's sending, he's clearly sending a lot of money home because they have a nice house. I would live in that house. It's a very nice house, but I mean, but I will even take it one step back. He's barely in the, I want to say the republic, I'm sorry. The rebellion. The rebellion. He's barely in the rebellion because he's just a smuggler. I mean, he gets caught up in the rebellion. Yeah, right. Good point. Yeah, so before this, there, like Chewbacca's just hanging out with his buddy, just shooting around the galaxy with a gun. Just like, he's a bad dude, a bad dad. Like he only recently has, has really stepped it up. And also, I mean, the other thing too, which is like really insulting, I guess, but I guess like they credit R2D2 and C3PO as R2D2 and C3PO. They do not like call them by their actor names, even though there are people inside those suits. But yet Darth Vader is James Earl Jones. Yeah. And Anthony Daniels did the voice. Yeah. What do you mean they credit that? And that terrible opening credits like with Hans, you know, like with R2D2 and C3PO. And then when Darth Vader came on, it was James Earl Jones. So interesting. Even though James Earl Jones is technically not in the special, he was only in reused footage from the Star Wars movies. There's so much to talk about here. They're in a nice mid-century modern house. With felt, there's a green, what is the, what is the floor is just felt? Yeah. Well, you know, they're wookiees, so they have soft feet already and they're just even, they're just a creature. Yeah. They're walking carvis. They don't really need much in the terms of carvis. How high up are they and how do they actually get down? Because a stormtrooper was killed by falling off. Oh, huge. Yeah. They straight up murder someone. They murder somebody in the worst fight of all time. Harrison Ford, like his choreographing of this fight is like, dodge the left, dodge the right, and the guy just literally just jumps over a ledge. Han Solo not giving a shit. Like he's like, yeah, I'm here. So then they walk inside and it's like, hey, that guy's not going to give us any trouble anymore. Because we killed him. It was a way for them to do a family friendly kill because it was just a fake out. It's not his fault he fell off the balcony. Yeah. Han Solo just went a little bit to the left and a little bit to the right. He just zigzagged them. This whole special is really basically people watching or wookies watching TV. No shit. Yes. The whole thing. It almost seemed like every also like they was just broken up into all these like segments. They have so many devices to watch TV on. And like it's like every one of those was just kind of killing time. Like, yeah, this is the whole special. What are you stalling? Yeah, they really are just they're just killing time for something the next thing to happen. And they have more like they have iPods. They have like TVs. They have iPads. There's not one device. They have a virtual reality porno. Oh, wait. I mean, before we even get into it, because I have so much to say about that. I could just talk about that alone. Maybe we should just get to it. Because to me, that is the reason that a podcast like this should exist. And it wasn't like I was saying, how did this get made for this whole thing? I understood why this special got made. But that five minutes, how did that happen? It is the single most baffling moment of television history that I have ever seen. It's absolute insanity. According to the producer and director, Mitzy Welch, the scene with Diane Carroll was intended to be soft core porno that would pass the censors. It's a joke, right? Like they knew what they were doing. I think they had to because it's like, let's take a listen to Diane Carroll. Just so if you've not seen the special, and I really would recommend that you watch like 15 hours of Thomas the Tank instead of this because it would be easier to get through. But take a listen to this. This is how Diane Carroll sounds. And you'll just a couple of seconds to get the idea. I am on your searching for me. Searching, searching. I am here. My voice is for you alone. I am found in your eyes only. I exist for you. I am in your mind as you create me. Oh, yes. I can feel my creation. I'm getting your message. Are you getting mine? So basically Lumpy the Grandfather is in a virtual reality headset. By the way, this show is very, I mean, it's kind of like the Jules Verne of specials. Except that headset is made out of like a salon hair dryer. Yes. So he's, by the way, he's watching this porno in the middle of the living room. And he's gumming himself. Like his mouth is moving so uncomfortably. I have nothing. I did not understand what was happening. I thought I was watching, I watched half of it like before I went to sleep and then a half of it in the morning. And I was pretty sure that I, that was like part of my dream going into it. How do you know what's real and what's not? It's so bizarre because I mean, she's singing and performing from, not that it's unusual, but I also thought it was odd that Lumpy the old grandfather likes humanoids. Like he is, you know, yeah. That was plenty weird. Yeah, plenty. Well, I thought that with the, with the cooking show also, I was like, why, I don't know, I was really hung up on this. Why are these wookies watching a cooking show? Why isn't there a wookie cook? Why is there a human? Well, that's the thing about like all Star Wars to me that kind of gets me. It's like, here's a planet full of wookiees. So if you think of earth as the, like the comparison, like even within our earth, there are so many different subcultures here. They're just like, they're just shipping it out to like humanoids. They're like, you have a planet and there's like a line in here where like Han Solo is like, ah, there's some traffic. We're going to land on the north side of the planet. Yeah. That, that would be like me going like, oh yeah, I got to get home to California. I'll land in China. We'll figure it out. There's no sense there that that would make it simpler to get home. The simple answers are like, well, we already know we really want to do 30 minutes of wookies just talking to each other with no subtitles. We should put some humans in there for something. No subtitles. And really the first, I would say 10 minutes doesn't even have at least, doesn't even have a human to tell you what's going on. It's just a wookie. I started to lose my mind. I was like, what, what, what's going on? What are we doing here? Is this what we're doing? Is this the whole thing? In a world of noise and uncertainty, IG is the investment platform that backs you. Take a reflexable stocks, ISA, which gives you the freedom to withdraw funds anytime and replace them in the same tax year, all without losing your £20,000 tax-free allowance. And if that's not enough, pay no commission on your stock shares and ETFs when you invest with IG. IG. Trade. Invest. Progress. Your capital's at risk. Other fees may apply. Tax treatment depends on individual circumstances and is subject to change. I mean, we're talking honestly about one of the most interesting specials of all time, because not only is it a special where they don't speak English, it's a special where they got soft core porn in. But then it's also like trying to get in like a whole idea of like Nazism. I feel like the Nazi thing is big. Yeah, no kidding. It's bigger than in the films. Way bigger. It scared me. It actually scared me when they started, oh my god, when he tore apart the stuffed animal? Yeah. It actually frightened me. But there's something so disheartening. That's the part I remember from when I was a kid watching it, was when they trash Itchy's room. I was like, I remember very powerfully being super upset and scared by that. Well, it was even scary for me to watch it now because it's like, why is this stormtrooper going into this kid's room to basically just break shit? Like just destroying this kid's room? I definitely thought that there was going to be, I thought there was like a buildup to the stuffed animal. Like I thought he was going to find something in it. Yeah. And he didn't. He just broke it for the hell of it. I mean, it's more unsettling to me though, is that you have Nazis, but then you have the 70s aesthetic. And so there's like an Imperial Guard Nazi with a whiskbroom mustache that is so off-putting when he tears up Lumpy's room. Oh God. It's so weird because it's like they're trying to make so many statements and none of them work. Because the other thing is too, like the whole premise is like they're waiting for Chewbacca to get back and like the Imperial forces are like, where's Chewbacca? But it's not like he's hiding something, but they act as if they're hiding this seven foot tall giant Wookiee. Like why would they need to like break stuff in them? It's like he's very apparent when he's around. And they also, when he does finally get back to them, they got to keep Chewbacca far away from them because his costumes so much better than I know their costumes that they cannot put them in the same shop. Like one looks like you've got it at a costume shop and one's like a Hollywood costume. I found the itchy little boy costume to be very unsettling. Is it itchy the grandfather and Lumpy's the kid? I had a lumpy was the kid, but I don't know. Yeah, itchy. Itchy is the old man, right? Yeah. Thank God. Got it. I also disagree. I agree and disagree about Lumpy being unsettling the costume. I loved him so much. So much favorite character. He did. Somehow manages to look like Gary Coleman in some way. I just want to know what was going on that little kid's mind too because like that kid, there's a child or- It was a woman in there. Oh, it's a woman. And a man plays Mala. Weird. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I did not know that. So is Chewbacca gay? That's a female Wookiee played by a male human. Got it. Got it. That would be an amazing reveal. I would love a gay Chewbacca. No spoilers for Force Awakens, but maybe you'll get it. Like this whole time, he's just hoping for something with Han. That's why he stays away from his wife for so long. He's like, I can't go back there. I'm not myself. I need to be out here. He's a beard, his literal beard. I wrote down this of one of the many things that they watched. They watched Cirque du Soleil or a version of Cirque du Soleil. And I wrote down, bad Cirque du Soleil is good. Good Cirque du Soleil is great. Medium Cirque du Soleil is unwatchable. And that's what this is. It's not quite Cirque du Soleil. And it's so boring to watch. And who is this appealing to? Bad. Bruce Valanche. I want to know, like, okay, so I just want to make sure. This came out, this was only after the first one. Yes, 1978 it came out. So they had, because when I watched that Cirque du Soleil, so I wasn't quite like, I'm not super familiar with all the Star Wars stories. I know this chessboard thing. I've seen it. That's what they do. They have things on it, like games, whatever. Is this, is the Cirque du Soleil thing, is that something that happens? Like an app? Like another app? You thought it was in the movie or something. Yes, I was like, was this, is this just something that they weren't quite sure was going to be part of the universe? They were testing something out? Oh my God. Like the other things that they could do in the Millennium Falcon. All right, guys, it's going to take us a little time in our warp speed to get there. So let's just, let's just, I'm sorry. Let's cue up the moment, Sean. Yeah, let's go. Oh my gosh, it's so, it's so weird. Everything about it, we can get into Art Carney. Art Carney who is- Oh my God. Is he the creepy white guy? He is the creepy white guy. Well, he's like the- The Trader Joe. The Trader Joe. Yeah, the Trader Joe who was supposed to be Lando Calrissian. What? Apparently Lucas came up with the idea for Lando as being this Trader who had an outpost on a Wookiee planet. And so this was like we introduced Boba Fett later on. So supposed to be the introduction of Lando Calrissian. Oh. Wow, I didn't know that. And was this also then, was it the introduction of Boba Fett? Yes. Because he wasn't in the first one. He was not in the first one. And this was followed up by this, if you collected the action figures, you could send in proofs of purchase and get a Boba Fett. Before he came out in the movie, and then of course the big scandal where his rocket fired and apparently choked a child so they recalled it. And you can't get the rocket firing Boba Fett. I didn't know that he choked a kid. Well, that was the rule. I think it was actually the Cylon toy that did it. But because of that, they recalled or I think never produced the actual firing one. And I remember getting it or this kid in kindergarten got it first and he's like, it doesn't launch like they said. And I went, no, that's a lie. Give it to me. And I had to like fully inspect and like, you're missing the button or something. It was gone. Well, I also like that Boba Fett, the action figure can kill. Like that's a great assassin. If you're even your toy can kill a kid. Yeah. That's the one to be reckoned with. Sleeper cell. Okay. Well, that seems weird to me though to introduce. Like that then this special was like weirdly really important. Yeah, it could have been great. It should have been great. Somebody involved with Star Wars should have been involved in it. I guess. I think they gave them like a lot of table scraps like, uh, and yeah, there'll be a Boba Fett and, uh, there's a Lando guy and, uh, and there's. Now I'm just imagining if they went to Cloud City and it was art Carney that greeted them on the when they landed the ship. Oh my God. Get out of here. You're a pirate. Art Carney, Art Carney, I feel like both Art Carney and be Arthur. I felt so bad for them because all of the Star Wars jargon and names felt so unnatural coming out of their mouths. Yeah. Like the scene where be Arthur is the cantina bartender and goes around begging every customer to leave. Oh my God. Why wouldn't they leave also? And yet I feel like crazy. And I was like, she memorized all this nonsense. And, and I feel that Harvey Corman on the other hand fully committed to it and just went a hundred percent in. Basically Harvey Corman is doing performance art because I would even, I would even argue that Harvey Corman is not even like, first of all, that cantina scene is like, is part cabaret. It's all cabaret, all cabaret, which was so conflicting for me as a child going, I know this is Star Wars and I'm, I'm drawn to it, but I can't stand this because I hated musical numbers as a kid. Well, I mean, again, like I'm just, you kind of see all the influences. It's all bad. But Harvey Corman comes in as this like love Lorne guy who drinks out of a thing in his head. Yeah, he still has a mouth. He still has a mouth, still fully humanoid, but he just pours drinks in his head. And he comes in as this like love Lorne guy who wants to like be with be Arthur. And again, I'm thinking for what child is this like this sad, like romantic, like this drunk coming and going to the bartender. I love you. I love you. Let's be together. So sad because the writers were all seasoned variety show writers. So they went, let's plug in the old guy at the bar sketch in here and just get it done. We got to kill two hours to me. It feels everything. It feels like an old fashioned. It doesn't feel at all modern or current. It feels old fashioned, like an old variety show in that way. And that's that those are all the games they're playing. With all the appropriate actors. But it wasn't funny. No, it had no joy to it. It was like, it was almost melancholy. The whole special is upsettingly sad. It's like, all right, a family is being tortured. This woman is being like her, like everybody who owns the store is being like shut down by these Nazis. And like, you know, like, and no one's, there's no joy. And even in the end, when they finally get to life, it seems like a somber holiday as well. They take the cantina theme, which is the happiest music in Star Wars, maybe next to that Ewok song. Yeah. Turn it into some kind of minor key cabaret dirge. And it's incredible. And then they're just, you know, the most Isley cantina, which is very like weirdly described why they're even watching it. And they're like, no, you'll watch a live feed from another planet. So we're watching like a webcam inside most Isley cantina that's being broadcast on like satellite television. Like, I don't even understand how we're getting there. Like, and, but again, why would we? Yeah. Why would you like, they say that like most Isley is like the hive of scum and villainy. Like it would be like, you would never, yeah, you would never put a webcam there to broadcast across the universe. Well, I guess because they were trying to somehow like get them in trouble because they would like then they got shut down. But and a lot of the whole thing kind of doesn't have a point, obviously, but actually what was the point of having that there? Why did not kill in time. There were so many instances where I literally said out loud, take your time holiday special, take your time. It's a two hour special that could probably have been really good at like a 30 minute special. Yeah. Okay. A great 30 minutes. I had a question also. I really didn't understand for the cartoon part. Yeah. What like, was he was this fiction or was it what was he watching? I had the same problem because lumpy or lumpy or who are the kid is watching his dad in a cartoon. So that's weird. And he seems affected by it. Like, so I don't know if like Chewbacca has commissioned a buddy who's an animator to like show him his adventures. But like, but he literally is freaked out. And it's like, oh, my dad's in trouble. It's like, in some ways, this is like so David Lynch in an absurdly brilliant way, who, by the way, was the original choice for Return of the Jedi director. Oh, really? Yes. He turned it down. That would have been great. I know. And then the original return and then made Dune. Well, what, you know, return of the Jedi was supposed to be on a whole planet full of Wookiees, but then they simplified it and made it Ewoks. But I think for maybe marketing purposes, I'm sure somebody, J.W. Rinsler can get in here and describe that to why that happened. But this was the original conception, like, oh, my gosh, it's so it's so bizarre because that makes no sense at all while he's watching his dad. And if they did want to watch his dad, I could get them going like, oh, that's why they're delayed. Maybe that's why they're delayed. But we see in the very beginning that they're not delayed because they're just kind of just fighting. They're just randomly just fighting. Do you think that was the cartoon made as a way of like championing these great figures of the rebellion? Oh, I think you guys are giving it too much thought. Like, I don't think that thought was put in there. I think it was seriously, we have this cartoon to market this action figure, find a way to fit in and just know that I'm not going to check up on this. So do it however you want. My name is George Lucas. You know, we did actually, our guy, Blake Harris, is writing a very good oral history. You can check it out on slash film. If you're bored here on Christmas and you're listening to this on Christmas, head on over to slash film and read the oral history of this because actually the director of this special was the guy who directed the Elvis comeback special. Like, oh my God. Yes. So he has like some real chops, but here none of them are on display at all. But they made a drama, a drama holiday special for children. This really was intended. A Star Wars Holocaust special. Shoot, imagine if Anne Frank was with Wookiees and you would get the life day special. Can we talk about Princess Leia for a second? Oh my gosh, yes. When they call her on the screen and she gets up from her desk, which she's no doubt sitting behind because she doesn't want to stand up just physically. She gets and walks towards the camera, has to sort of lean on the desk a little bit to make it the full way. She does that thing that actors do when they don't know their lines and they take a very like meaningful breath and she would pause between each of her lines while she would think of her line. And then her, I rewound it. Did you guys catch this? Her line I think is I don't want to tie up the channels, but she says I don't want to tie her up the channels. Like that, by the way, I want to even talk about how they even get her on the view screen. They get her on the view screen. The view screen is like X's and O's, literally like XX, oh, oh, oh, oh, XXX. Okay, we got the transmission. Like they didn't even try to do anything like weird alien language. Just X's and O's. This is not even a first draft. This is like a draft where people pulled pages out of a garbage can. I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, that one. Oh, this is a show that features a full length cooking segment about how to make bantha. Yes, that is step by step an actual cooking program. That's a loin. And I was going to say with that, that cooking program, there's no real joke in this thing besides the fact that the guy has multiple arms. And if you took that away, it's just a cooking segment that Harvick Corman is really committing. Just a very boring, boring cooking segment. But it's manic. I wasn't super bored. I was mostly confused, but I was compelled. Because it was like spin, spin, spin, spin, spin, spin, spin, spin, spin, spin. And then other hands came in. Wait, let's even play a little bit of Harvick Corman saying spin, spin, whip, whip, whip. Slow and on the counter, womp. Stir, whip, stir, whip, whip, whip, stir. Stir, whip, stir, whip, whip, stir. Come on, faster all together now, cooking can. Stir, whip, stir, whip, whip, stir. Stir, whip, stir, whip, whip, stir. Wow, having fun, having fun, all right? Having a long night. Now step three, be awesome. That is for kids. Enjoy a kid. He has in his voice the fear of a man who knows this is not funny and just will not stop for fear of hearing the silence. He went home every night and went. But he has to say having fun, having fun, just to tell you that they're having fun. Well, like, isn't it known? I remember this from the Howard Stern interview with Carol Burnett, like that Harvick Corman was kind of like a jerky diva at certain points and like he left the Carol Burnett show and was like always an asshole to people. He was a chevy chase of Carol Burnett. Exactly. So like I feel like this was his chance to be like, you know what? I got asked to do the Star Wars holiday special. I don't need you Carol Burnett writers. I'm going to go off and do my own thing and then left to his own devices. This is what Harvick Corman did and I'm sure they gave him a 100% creative license to do whatever because he does seem into it. He is out of everyone is not phoning it in at all. I think he understands that Star Wars is now a phenomenon where maybe some of those other people don't. What did they tell Diane Carroll? Like we're going to have you sensually talk to the camera right now. I want to know what they told her more than I want to know who killed Kennedy. How that went down that day on the set. I would pay no amount of money. Well, you know, here's an interesting thing too. Just for those people out there wondering this is canon. Star Wars holiday special. Like if you exist, it exists in a world like everything in the Star Wars universe. There are like things that are canon, things that are not. So a lot of the books have now been excised. That's not canon, but this is in the world. Like so technically if you were to build something, you can reference this all happen. I think Lucas is just not kicking it out of canon because he didn't ever want to admit it was in canon. The minute he kicks it out of canon, that will legitimize it. Right. So by not mentioning it. Yeah, this is, I mean, oh my gosh, there is, I guess I'm so curious why Lucas refused to. I mean, that's a bold move and that's like a 70s move to like, no, the speaking wookie. And that's that. Yeah. America's got to get with the program. Like that is not fun for anyone because we're really just watching a family waiting. It's like a Truman show with wookies, but the the boring parts of Truman show. No, it's waiting for Godot is what it is. It is. It really is. It is. I also want to talk about Ark Carney's code. So he's in front of the Imperial troopers. And he's his code language for like what Chewbacca is. I hope you, I got that large furry package in for you, but it might be delayed. Like it's like, everyone knows what he's talking about. This trooper should be a little bit quicker on the update. And also I'm pretty sure he said something about, he said something by hand. Made by hand solo. Oh, right. That's it. Yeah. That was the bad code. Yeah. Like, yeah. They could say she made it by hand solo. Like, yeah. Like, so I guess he just runs like a little like shop. He's a trader and family friend. This is it takes a village on. Now they call it. The Imperial Guard coming. He says, I just thought I'd show you some of the stupid stuff. Wookie's purchased from me anyway. I guess some of the interesting things that Wookie's purchased are miniature fish tanks. Sure. Like there was it was so like, and I guess that's a joke. Like, hey, look, it's a miniature fish tank that you can keep in your pocket. But do Wookie's have pockets? Guys, do Wookie's have pockets? Like like marsupial pouches? Yeah. Yeah. Like kangaroos. Yeah. I was actually thinking what if I've never seen them. Well, he hasn't seen them pull anything out of their pockets. What if Chewbacca's like Bandalier is this full of miniature fish tanks? Like I thought it was bullets. It's just a miniature fish tanks in there from every life day he has. Oh, thank you for. Oh, he likes the miniature fish tank. I was also a little confused about then like the what are the ubiquity like the common like this is just life day is just a Wookie holiday. I imagine so. Yes. But everyone respects this. Everyone is like, this is a big deal. Yeah, we know. Well, I feel like Chewie's probably always talking about life day, his life day memory. Right. Right. But yeah, they always are like, I guess they're like, I guess in the middle of like the rebellion, you know, what Chewbacca's like, hey, guys, I'd love to kind of do the Death Star stuff or whatever. But I got to make it home. I got to like, can I take a holiday weekend? Like Chewie is like leaving the rebellion. It seems like Luke's working on his like tie fighter. Princess Lee is like doing something else. And by the way, Luke seems, I don't know, Luke working on that tie fighter. I had a lot of questions about that too. I just want to know where and I guess this was for Leia also where they all look like, you know when like you're in line for Disneyland and like Patrick Warburton comes on and tells you like he's in that room or something like working on a fake plane or something and talks to you. That's the kind of room that it felt like that Luke was in. Where were they? It's one shot, no close ups. Like they literally walked them in, gave them their costume and got eyeliner on Mark Hamill. For sure. And and they said, let's go. Like Mark Hamill looks younger in this than he does in Star Wars. And this is, I guess, before the car accident where he got the scar on his face from that then is now part of like the world of Star Wars. But it's like that it was crazy to see how young he looked. And also you're right, it is like that Aerosmith Rock and Roll rollercoaster. Hey, you guys are here. Jump on board, man. You can come to our show too. You willkeys. 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Yeah, but then they say that they put a blockade around the planet. And that would guess would be the blockade that they just kind of just go, oh, we'll just go here. We'll make a, we'll turn around this block instead. It's almost as if they didn't put a lot of thought into this thing. Or they were on so all, like all of the drugs. Yeah. And you know, it was it when Art Kearney arrived at the house at Chewbacca's house and like made Mala give him a kiss. Yes, and a little kid. There's so much of Wookiee human crossover. He was like really pushy about getting a kiss from Mala, which I thought was real creepy. That's a real Lando move. Yeah. He wanted to, he was all up and Leah's junk too. That's true. Yeah. And then Jefferson Starship, we should talk about that. Oh boy. I felt so stupid. I was like, this is, I know this is a famous band. Who, who, who is this? Oh, how did they get that? Why, why, why? Jefferson Starship in this, I mean, yeah, it's like, who are they? I mean, they got, they got out easy. I mean, I think Diane Carroll and Jefferson Starship got out easy. Because they just had to do what they do. Yeah. They just put on costumes. I'm pretty sure though I couldn't tell. Did they have them singing? Was the microphone, they tried to make it look like a lightsaber? Yeah, it was all glowing. All their instruments were glowing. What do you think that they were chosen solely because their name was Starship for this? Oh, I bet you. I didn't even realize that. Yeah. It led me to believe, think too that when they went from Jefferson Airplane to Starship, that is the coolest band reboot name. I didn't even realize that. That's crazy. Yeah, Jeff Smith went to Jefferson Starship. Yeah, they lost Grace Sik and went like, we're going to the stratosphere. You know how we can top losing the whole draw of this band? We're going to space. So crazy. Oh my. Yeah, Jefferson Starship just performs again in one of the many points of the show where someone watches entertainment. We have someone watching a circus. We have someone watching VR porn. We have someone watching Jefferson Starship. We have a lot of cartoons. Oh, and then the cartoon, it's voiced over by this guy. Like now in Star Trek, it's like Captain's Vlog, Star Date so and so. In this, there's another guy that's like, uh, Rebel Log, you know, and it's like, who, who is this guy that's narrating this? Wouldn't it be like Chewbacca or like Luke Skywalker's Vlog? There's so much watching of TV in this show that it leads me to believe someone's watching me watch this every time I watch it. I have to say that like, while Harrison Ford must have been bummed because his character is most closely connected to the character, they based the entire special around, which means he has to be in it more than anyone. He does sell it at certain points. He does. Yeah. Like when he like says like, like he looks at Chewie like real like lovingly is like, you're like family to me. Yeah. And then they all say how they can't make life day, but yeah, then they're all there at the end at life day. And Chewbacca is in his red smock, which I think is amazing. Yeah. Wait, that you meant like the robe? The robe. I'm sorry. Yeah, the robe. Yeah. Just making sure that those were so weird. So I think it was only to cover up the fact they didn't have enough costumes for the rest of these people because you don't even see the other Wookiees. You just see red things. And I don't understand what life day is like. Life day, they hold an orb in their hand, then they're transported away, but then they're back. But yeah, they walk through. Outer space. They walk into a sun or something. Is it like ayahuasca? Is life day? No, but then they're around, then they're around like a big giant tree base, but they're in space. Guys, I think they might be on Pandora. Oh my God. When Leia sings at the end, Han and Luke have looks on their face that remind me of when my family holds hands and pray at Christmas where you're just, you feel like is someone watching me right now? I've got to be respectful, but it's so uncomfortable. Well, there's something also interesting in here right before they start to sing like C-3PO and R2-D2 drop a very big bomb on everyone in the Star Wars world where they basically say, I wish we were humans, so we had feelings. And could be credited as humans in the credits. And then so you understand that they are not human. And then Leia sings. I want to just play a little bit of Leia's life day song. So we'll hear a little bit of R2-D2 and C-3PO lamenting there. Nonsense being. It is indeed true that at times like this, Arto and I wish that we were more than just mechanical beings. And we're really alive so that we could share your feelings with you. Chewbacca! Chewbacca, we were so relieved to hear you were all right. All of you are an important part of my life, pal. I'm glad I could be here. Yeah. This holiday is yours. But we all share with you the hope that this day brings us closer to freedom and to harmony and to peace. No matter how different we appear, we're all the same in our struggle against the powers of evil and darkness. I hope that this day will always be a day of joy in which we can reconfirm our dedication and our courage. And more than anything else, our love for one another. Here you go. This is the promise of the Tree of Life. This is what it is. This is to a couple seconds of this. To the tune of Star Wars. Oh, you're right. It is. Essentially. And now I'm further confused because they all join up there. They're all meeting up on Kashyyyk to have like a life day party. It doesn't seem like it's for them. It seems like this is purely a wookie thing. And yet she's saying how this is like galvanizing the forces of the rebels. But it's not. I don't get it. It seems like it's Christmas, right? It's supposed to be like Christmas. Yes. It shouldn't be like a... It was weird, weird moral preachy just like stuck on there. Why? The song at the end is like, it's nothing about this would be fun. Nothing about it is fun. This is like a somber side story of the Star Wars world. Even at the end of Star Wars. It's all wookies. All wookies. They're the only non-wookies there. I feel like why does Chewbacca get to bring friends? Yeah. Well, that's again, I feel like Chewbacca is the outcast of the wookie plan. It's like, you're first of all, you're fucking deadbeat dead. Then you bring all your friends over to our life day. Come on, man. And your friends take over our celebration and make speeches. Yeah. Why is Leah singing at the wookie celebration? I was like, if you're like, I get it if it's like, okay, oh, we want like, because we don't want to end it. Like we want it to be English. But they didn't care about that for all the rest of the movie. So why wouldn't they have like, get the credit, get Chewie to make the big speech. And by the way, I would have been very excited at the end of like Return of the Jedi, where they had the yub-nub song. Like that's all not English. And that's Ewok singing like, let's have something like that. That seems like a celebration song. Like, but nope, it's like, let's give this old, not not old, let's give this white lady a chance of saying, like, and I just feel like she's not an entertainer. She's a princess and a rebel leader. She's not known for her singing prowess, but Carrie Fisher. No, that's, that's B Arthur. Yeah. B Arthur gets to sing her song. Yeah, well, it's really weird. Oh my God. B Arthur, like, you know, they have to fill that canteen a full of shit, like all these different creatures. And the the laziest version is that giant rat on the side. Like this. Oh yeah. It's like, uh, yeah. And a big rat. She'll talk about big fucking rat. Then B, you're going to go from this guy here and you're going to go and you're going to sit next to the big rat and then you're going to sing this part. Like the blocking of that alone must have made her want to kill herself. Shot in like one day and probably the worst one day, terrible craft service. They're just sitting there miserable. B Arthur only agreed to do it. She didn't under, she never saw Star Wars either, but her grand kid or something was a big fan of it. So that's why she jumped in. And apparently the cantina day was an entire day, but the actors in the alien costumes began to pass out due to lack of oxygen. So there are oxygen tanks on set because of that. Does it say where this was shot? Like this could have been, it probably was like, or CBS, Radford or that television city. I think at the end it did say something about, I should have read, but like shot at like Burbank. Of course. Because every variety show ever made was shot in Burbank. I'm certain of that. That's amazing. They're, uh, God, so close to us. That all happened. So close to us. That should be a memorial or some kind of plaque or something. But could you imagine doing the force awaken special now? Like this, like what would be the, like would be like the one to one ratio? It'd be like, I don't know what it would be. I mean, it would be like the girl, like two broke girls come in. Yeah, they work in like a jacu diner or something like that. Absolutely. Avalongoria. Young girls, two broke girls are too young. Oh, you're right. It would have to be like who would be too young? It would have to be like, um, Ed O'Neill, like Doris Roberts and Ed O'Neill. Yeah. Yeah. You know, uh, the producers turned down Robin Williams from being in the special. CBS didn't like him, so they turned him down. So Robin Williams could have been in the Star Wars holidays, but he had been the Harvey Corman part. I imagine he had to have been the Harvey Corman part. Yeah. And was more commindy wasn't on yet at this point, right? 78, was it? I feel like he might have. No, probably not. Yeah, they would have loved to have had him if he was. Oh, yeah. Yes. I mean, that would have been great. Just as he Doris Roberts doing, doing a song at like, um, the, um, whatever that character, the Maz, the Maz characters, uh, Cantina and the Force Awakens. Did we talk about the instructional video? Oh, no, that was still another Harvey Corman performance art piece. This is like, what is going on here? That I actually liked. It was so absurd and almost in a Tim and Eric way, whether they meant it or not. Yeah. I, I was riveted by that and I don't know exactly why, but it was so interesting. So the child's computer equipment is a broken and he's going to repair it. So he puts on the instructional video to show him how to repair his like laptop. And it's Harvey Corman yet again as another character. This one is like a, I mean, you guys can describe a robot. But did they do that after the fact where they just went, well, we didn't have any jokes in the first place and he didn't really do anything. Let's tweak with the editing. Was that always planned? Again, I don't even understand the logic behind it because the idea would be like, this is an instructional video. So why would they even release it if the robot malfunctioned unless the robot only comes alive when they're doing it? Like there's not even a logic there. Well, I thought it was the playback that was malfunctioning, but don't trust me on that. I don't know. It was like skipping and jumping. Oh, but I thought that Harvey Corman was also falling down at certain points too, because he was- Good question. I think you're right. I think it was after the fact because there was no, not that people were reacting appropriately or that the Wookiees were reacting appropriately, but like there was no acknowledgement that it was like, there was no like, like lumpy was like, oh no, like it's messing up. But just totally, totally normal. So after the fact they were like, we've got to make it interesting. We got, I mean, and they really did make, like that wouldn't be amazing if that was like one of Tim and Eric's like editors, grandfathers. Or they're like, we have to make this funny or this special isn't going to work because everything else is right in the pocket. We nailed it. This is the one thing. They also reuse footage from Star Wars, a handful of times to a degree. Yeah. Okay. I am watching it right now. Harvey Corman falls down. So it's not, let's not play back. He literally falls and his head hits the table and he's like, he's malfunctioning. He's shorting out. That's crazy. Why not just put him in the room with them and then you just have a funny robot performance? I guess no one was going to get on that wookiee set. Yeah. It was only broadcast once we talked about that. What, anything else that we may have missed that I know that there's so much to talk about, but oh, there's another issue that I always have. Mala is making wookiee cookies, which are wookiee cookies, but that's an issue that I have because we don't call them like human wookies. Yeah, cookies are cookies are cookies. Exactly. They don't have to have like the name of the species before it. You wouldn't call them, yeah, like, yeah, they were called wookiee wookies. Yeah. He's like, are you making some of those wookiee wookies for me? We're making some human ramen over here. I did feel like Arkharnie would have fucked Mala. Well, it makes it sound like they're made of wookiee. Maybe they're cannibals. Which would make wookiee's cannibals. I do want to go back to, do you think that Arkharnie did have an affair with Mala? Could that have happened? Because of the way he wanted to kiss her? Well, you can't blame her for, you know, I mean, A, for because Chewbacca's gone, but also Arkharnie, what a catch. And then when Chewbacca gets back, the sexual chemistry that is between, the sexual tension between him and Mala is palpable. Why didn't they actually kiss? It almost happened and then they hugged it. I wanted to see that wookiee kiss so bad. I don't think their mouths can do that. Again, I feel like I want to get into, I want to go deep into Chewbacca's life. Couples therapy, why Mala's upset with him. Like, what is going on? I feel like maybe that was a little bit of the intention. Like if it went over well, maybe they would have made like a TV series off of it. Oh, I think you're probably right. Oh, I mean, I feel like they did make these Ewok specials eventually, like later on, which we were going to maybe focus on, but they're just actually too boring. But this, and this is the least is a train wreck. But yeah, like there, I mean, I think that like, imagine if Lucas directed the second one, that's what he wanted. He wanted to focus on wookies like this. Like the Empire Strikes Back could have had a giant chunk of just this wookiee, just boring wookiee. Takes the most interesting character, the most like beast-like character, and just like makes him the most domestic. There's an oven in there. They have like a nice oven and furniture. There's nothing, there's nothing wookiee about it. It's just nice. It's like, yeah, wouldn't you like to see what the equivalent of a wookiee chair is? The only difference between a wookiee and a human family is that they don't speak English and most of their house is made of wood. That's the only difference. Which you could say for a lot of Italians. That's, wow, really going hard at Italian. Again. I mean, or anyone who like, where is Ikea from? Don't try to make a track on this now. No, they're not notoriously hairy. You have to stay Mediterranean to make this work. What else? Anything else that you saw that you were worth bringing up? I was just going to say that the part that I really did get emotional when Lumpy, when he's putting back together the stuffed animal, I really, I felt for him. And all of the inserts, they had just like random inserts really close up of a lot of their faces. And like the ones at the end of Mala, like almost crying. Were so, they were like, oh, and then I couldn't, I like burst out laughing because they were so absurd. I got emotional when he had to clean his room because they showed the entire process and it just brought me back to when I had to clean my room. I don't know if it's like being a new dad on some level, but I do get emotional with like things with like sons and dads. Like they look a little bit like there was a moment I was like, oh, I'm like, I'm feeling this because it was like, you don't want to see a kid get beat up in torture. Treated poorly by the stupid. Oh my God, that's amazing. I really just, the thing that I want to remind everybody of is that in the middle of all of this, they murder a storm. And everybody appears to be unfazed. And our crony, when he goes and he, when they're like, where is the, where is he? He lies and says that he was robbed and that then he, whatever he fled, but so incriminating himself, the guy, they will so quickly find out no, he was thrown off of this thing. For all of the distrust that the empire has throughout this entire special, in that one sentence, they're like, okay, good enough for me. Let's wrap this up. You got it, buddy. Makes sense that our, our stormtrooper just defected out of no reason and on cashier, like in this wookie planet where I'll stick out like a sore thumb. I guess that guy robbed a bunch of wookies and took off for the forest because that's, that's what stormtroopers do. Oh, there's two things I didn't even talk about the, first of all, I just briefly just want to mention the long antenna on like, I guess, you know, one of the imperial soldiers has like an antenna that is, I would say like three feet. And it's like, yeah, CV antenna, which I loved. Just like the technology should be a little bit more advanced than that. We're fine spaceships around. I mean, they have pocket aquariums for crisis. Yeah. We're calling up Liyia across the galaxy. We're getting a live stream to most eyes. These we don't need, we don't need this long antenna here anymore. And then the other thing that I want to talk about is, so at the end, Chewbacca and Han get there, they kill a stormtrooper and Chewbacca's kid jumps into whose arms first. Han solo. That's right. The kid jumps in like again, proving Chewbacca's a bad dad. The first person he goes to. That's only something a new dad would notice. That is the takeaway from the special Chewbacca is a bad dad. That is now canon. Obviously that was our opinion about the film, but there are other people out there with another opinion. It is now time for second opinions. Make no mistake, this movie blows. And we have now reached the best part of the show. Poleshear and the gang, they had their say, but there are people out there that feel a different way. Let's check out these. Spouser reviews, code from Amazon, we're trying to figure out what is going on. Okay, when I watched this when I was a young kid, I loved it because it was a Star Wars show. I wasn't a critic. Now that I'm older, I suspect this was created by people under the influence of drug culture in the 70s. Using Star Wars characters to tell a story. If you can see and accept this, this show is very good. Entertaining, creative, and its own way unique. Leonard Moulton. Five stars. Well, I guess, yeah, if you accept drug culture in the 70s, then that works. I'd maybe agree with that sort of. I think that they did weird shit here. I mean, it definitely, no one's really into it in the five star reviews. They're probably all enjoying it ironically. Yeah, yeah. This one, the Star Wars holiday special is sadly a forgotten classic. The epic storyline is primarily concerned with Chewbacca trying to make it home in time for life day. But at its core, the film is a metaphor for the common man's attempt to make the world better for his family in the face of corrupt and uncaring people. Parallels to 1984 envisioned by the empire occupying their house and manhandling their property. This classic also allows us insight into supposedly gruff character of Han Solo, who reveals his tender side in his relations with Chewbacca and Chewbacca's family. His crying when Princess Leia sings the lyrics to Star Wars main theme. Oh, wow. Five stars. I didn't realize that that would be like, that's the lyrics to the main theme. Yeah. I didn't know that. This is written by like an Iron Rand reader, that one, where it's like the tyranny in 1984. That is like a tea party person. Yeah. Yeah. People liked it. People liked this. Would you guys recommend watching this at all? Oh, yes. Yeah. 100%. Over a week at least. Especially right now. Yeah. Right now it's a good chance because it's a holiday season. Watch it right before or after seeing The Force Awakens too, just to see when what happens and that movie happens, it's good to reflect on. It really is good to remember the important things here. And we didn't talk about that, I think the best part, which was the cartoon. Yeah, it's good. I actually, I really, I enjoyed it. I also, I mean, there was no point they didn't get that it was like, oh, whoa, like Boba Fett wasn't on our side. Yeah. And then nothing happened. It's solely to get the action figure marketed. Yeah. It's so crazy. Like every resolution here is so quick. It's like, like Boba Fett's like, oops, see you later sucker. And he just like, she's like, this is like a world class assassin. He could have just gone to a gunfight or anything. Like they basically like, we know you're a bad guy. He's like, hey. He could have killed him at any time. Yeah. Yeah. Like Boba Fett is a bad bounty hunter. But yeah, but it looks cool. And like, I almost would have preferred if the whole holiday special were these like little vignettes, like these like cool little, because that was like a cool adventure. So obviously you couldn't shoot Star Wars. So why don't you just do them as cartoons? It had that animation style, like heavy metal or like the creep show interstitials where the people always are, they're always moving. Like, yeah. Has that strange 70s, I don't know, like punk rock animation or something. That's really cool. I also, I really enjoyed the way Harrison Ford was drawn. It was so weird. He had like little tiny, they almost drew him like, like he was like, hi. I wish like, like, you know, it's so funny, like Harrison Ford, I think had so many issues with the return of the Jedi. But I feel like this is back in the day where you could get your main cast of the biggest blockbuster of all time to do a TV variety special. Oh yeah. There is nothing else like that. You will never see this again. Like you could never even get the Lord of the Rings, like Elphin Feast special. You would never see these characters out and about. Like they people have a hard time of getting characters to do video game voices. Like you get alone, come on and act in like a multi-cam production of their own. Yeah. The closest analog to this is they'll go on like a Jimmy Fallon and do a Star Wars sketch or something like that. Or like Daniel Craig did one for Spectre and that's the best you'll get out of the. Yeah. And even that. Or you'll get, now I get, I think what you get more is like Daniel Craig has to do like a Heineken ad. Yeah. Right. Or a funny or dive, you know, which I feel like has the same level of embarrassment. That's right. Yeah. Oh my gosh. Well, we'll never know what life day is officially. Do we know when it is exactly? I mean, look, it's a, it's Christmas, I think. Do we know, is it like in the Star Wars universe is the calendar the same as ours? I mean, it literally can't be because it's ours is what a lunar calendar based on our sun. Yeah. So they don't have that. We know that it's not winter on Kashyyyk or maybe again, that's my issue with these planets. It could be winter somewhere. That's good to be, he could live in the Miami version of the Wookiee planet. We don't know if it's winter. They didn't seem to have any decorations up for it. But if we've learned anything from Star Wars planets, it's one terrain per planet. All snow, all desert. It's so bizarre. Like that's the laziness of Star Wars. It's like one. Yeah. It would be so cool if Star Wars was on one planet. They would make a lot of sense. Like, oh different islands. Different continents. Yeah. Nope. Just all different planets. This is the island planet. This is the desert planet. This is the floating planet. Well, that was the Star Wars holiday special. We are glad that you guys, uh, bared with it with us. I mean, I'm glad I watched the whole thing. I, and it's, it is, it's unique. It's, you'll never make anything this wrong in this off ever again. It has a certain beauty. I can't wait to show this to my child as the first introduction to Star Wars. This is what everybody loves. 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