Aston Villa secures Champions League!

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Liverpool would equalise early on in the second half and Diak making it 1-1 but once Villa made it 2-1 it was only Villa who was on the attack. Liverpool looked so vulnerable in defence. A lovely goal from John McGinn with top things off Aston Villa winning by four goals to two and what that victory means is that Aston Villa are guaranteed a place in the Champions League next season. Right then. It's difficult not to start this conversation with why on earth would Liverpool stick by Arnav slot considering what we've seen over recent weeks because there just seems to be nothing there. If you sit at boardroom level with your head of recruitment and all that and your ownership and your chief executives you sit down and you say why would we keep Arnav slot? What's the reasons we'd keep them? I think you struggle to find any. If you'd have asked me in the summer I'd say I'll give you loads of reasons what you did last year, how the team played, how he conducted himself but he's taken a team at the community shield in the summer and we were here for the community shield when they got beat by Crystal Palace but it was all new players and you thought well they're betting in and it's going to take time to back four to work together, it's going to take time for Florian Virts, it's going to take time for Hugo Eketicchi and Alexander Isaac but they're going to be the team to beat and he's taken a team that were a club that spent a lot of money in the summer, a team that were favourites to win the Premier League and he's taken them and he's scrambling to get that last spot in the Champions League. Their performances have been shocking, he's upset the apple cart with a lot of the players, the fans have turned against him which you don't see very often at Liverpool so for me there is no reason and the reason can't be for me anyway. They won the league last year, that's not the reason. Liverpool are in a slippery slope under this manager and I honestly feel that they have to make the change now. Is there not an argument to say that but look what happened that summer, look what obviously what happened with Jota, the SDS goes, most Salah has gone pretty much. It's not the manager's fault that his front three were changing the way that they have. Yeah they did change but you've still got very good players at the club. He's still had a good base to which to work from. You can every so often, excuse when the front players aren't quite working out for you and you're not playing at the right tempo and all that sort of stuff because you'll have good days and you can have bad days in the front areas but when you look so poor as they did tonight at the back and have done on many occasions when they haven't got their offside line right, one centre half is going in, the other centre half is coming across, they played three at the back tonight, they tried to change the system with Gomez coming on the right hand side, they were all over the place, the midfield players aren't closing down with any energy, Kierkez doesn't close the ball down for one of the goals so that's where he's really lost it. Just the desire to defend, the organisation when they're defending hasn't been good enough and that comes often down to the manager and I would say also to the captain, although he scored two goals, he wants to throw his arms up in the air and talk about everybody else, he's been one of the worst players in that Liverpool team for me. I would agree, I totally agree and I think as you look back at last year when they won the league you were talking about how great Van Dijk was, how great Moles Salah was and the two of them this season have been exceptionally poor by their own standards and I think again from my perspective with Arna Salah, the summer was really tough, losing Jota and things like that, but I think for a lot of Liverpool fans look at Arna Salah and think how did he manage the team through the season and through those moments and I think a lot of them start talking about Jürgen would have done it differently, this guy would have done it differently and I don't think he has as much, for as much, well he won the league last year, he deserves a ton of credit for that, but I don't think the fan base really binds him as much as you think he would do. I think over the years, you judge managers when they're doing bad, when things are going well you say what a great manager, what a great coach, but you don't get the full idea of what a manager is like until they start losing go. Jürgen Klopp had bad performances, every manager does, he had bad results and bad performances, but in any given stretch he never had as many consistently bad performances because he was always able to find a reason and a way to get out of a sort of mini slump, he'd find this little bit of sparkle within making a change or man management and this looks not been able to do that. We talk about the problems Liverpool have had, it was him that dropped Iqatiki in the start of the season and brought in an unfit Alexander Eza, it was him that shuffled Florian Verz and Dominic Sobbersly all over the place. Sobbersly has been great but he's been right back, he's been right over front three, he's been sent in midfield, he's been all over the place and you can't keep making as many changes as he has and expect to get consistency. I've got to say as well, I think from this Liverpool side looking back at the fact they were defending their Premier League title, something we shouldn't forget, I think they've ended up as it stands losing a third of their games in the league. If they were struggling to win games and they were drawing a few, that's a different sort of issue, that's like a bomb if they've drawn 16 games. And even worse, it was after a very good start. Exactly. Remember that good start they were talking about who's going to catch Liverpool, maybe Arsenal won that game when Sobbersly scored the free kick and you thought they're going to run away with this title at that point and then it all started. If there's no confidence in Merseyside and certainly in the red half and I don't think there is and I think it's a lot of ex players as well, I'm sure, I'm not talking for Stevie but people of that ilk back in Liverpool who go to the games, I think maybe publicly they won't be saying it but certainly privately a lot of them are saying I think we need to make a change here. Don't fancy this guy. I think maybe he picked up the slack from Jurgen Klopp, he ran with it, made a few tweaks here and there, that's great and then when he had to make some really big decisions and his second season, he's been found wanting and I think if you were to do a straw poll in Merseyside about do you have any confidence in Arnley's slot going forward, I think the bulk of them and I'm talking about 80-90%, maybe even more would say no, we have completely lost our way. You said it a little bit earlier, you don't often hear the Liverpool fans booing, they were booing at half time when they were one nil down and is there any comeback for a manager that's been booed by the Liverpool fans? Not usually. Obviously if this was simple, slot goes, Chaviolonso comes in. It certainly feels that way at this moment in time, I think Chaviolonso has probably not made it a secret that he wants to be at the coach Liverpool at some point and the fact that he's available right now and is interested in elsewhere, you would think that maybe they will pull the trigger on that and make it happen. What's the argument against that? Trying to extend slot, give him some more time. And that's when we're going around his service. That's how I see it. And then you've got to rely on Alonso saying okay, I'll wait. But wait for what? Does this Liverpool board think that's going to happen over the summer that slots are magically going to get this team to play? I know that and we were talking about this on the way up here. The rumours have been swirling about Chelsea and Chaviolonso which I think most of us would find unlikely bearing the mind of Liverpool's situation but not impossible. If he gets an inkling that Liverpool are going to sit in their hands with the manager, then he might think well I need to get back in. And maybe that's not the right thing for him to do, is jumping back in too quickly to a bad situation which Chelsea is. Chelsea is a situation that's poorer than Liverpool. Maybe that will change here tomorrow, who knows, it's certainly shot to him. But that's hanging over at the moment. What's saving Arnie's slot at the moment is no big decision has been made and there are some rumours about Alonso and Chelsea as well as I think they'd have mentioned earlier. If you're Alonso, why would you pick Chelsea over Liverpool? I don't think he's picking Chelsea over Liverpool. I think his agents and the people around him are associating him with Chelsea so that Liverpool make the move. Liverpool, their ball to be saying we're going to have to make the move now, we can't wait till next season. For sure, I think it's an interesting question that you put forward because in my eyes if you start the next season with Liverpool with any doubts over Slott at all then you have to do it this summer. Otherwise it's essentially a waste of time because as we've mentioned do we know that some of that Chaviolonso will be available when the next season starts? We're not sure. Qualifying for the Champions League again? Yeah, second half of the season, bit of a stutter, crowd actually got a little angsty with them at times, a little restless which I think tells you about modern-day football because Unai Emery has been just utterly brilliant. Another final following in midweek, they play Freiburg, I would presume they're the favourites, they're in the Champions League anyway through the Premier League. They're possibly going to lose Morgan Rodgers in the summer and maybe one or two others so it's not going to be an easy summer for them but well they better side tonight and if they win the Europa League is going to great record then Unai Emery so I don't think Villa can believe just how well it's gone since the sacking of Stephen Gerrard and the appointment of the Spaniard. They've had an inconsistency season at times, I mean they've been excellent and when they play like they did tonight and they play fast forward thinking football they look a really good team. When they've struggled is when they try and keep possession at the back and they slow everything down, that's when they've struggled particularly at home and the crowd get onto them. If he does what he did tonight and he's done for most of the season they're a good team. Michael Carrick meanwhile looks like he will be the permanent manager at Manchester United, that's what we're hearing, a two-year deal is to be offered to the man who currently is of course the interim coach. Adolf Trafford done a great job, led them into the Champions League next season. Craig when we've discussed in the past you said look just give me a year see what happens. Does this really make a difference one year, two year? Look, Man United fans get the knickers, when you even... Just Man United fans. Well, when you even make a... Alright everybody, when you even discuss the fact that somebody outside Michael Carrick might get the job, it's like a siege mentality. But I don't have an issue with Michael Carrick getting the job, I don't, it's a role of a dice. This club will tell you looking back at previous appointments, Amarim, Solskjaer, Van Hal, Mareno, experience to less experience to even less with Solskjaer, it's a role of a dice here. So I don't have an issue with it because he's done a very good job. Do I think... And I said this before, you know, a month ago and this is when United fans get upset. You can have done a great job but not necessarily be the best man for the job. The two things can be true. For example, Arieola's out there, Alonzo's out there, okay, unlikely to manage United because he's a Liverpool player. But he's thrown his hat in the ring and if that's the way United want to go, I personally don't have an issue with it. Do I think there are better managers out there that are potentially available? I do, I do but you know, this is the decision they've made and if it goes wrong then obviously they'll be criticised. I think he's earned the right to be the manager. You know, he's took them from where they were, where they were playing particularly poorly. We always kept on saying, and I remember having an argument with Don Hutchinson on air, when he kept on saying the players aren't good enough, the players aren't good enough, no manager can take them on. Well Michael Carrick has taken on the same players and done a fairly decent job with them. They weren't bad players, they weren't the best players. But their recruitment wasn't as bad as everybody was sent. It was easy to say the players are rubbish. The manager's not at fault, the manager was at fault and Michael Carrick has done a decent job. I'm just saying, this is man united, right? Right, who want to get back to the top of the tree in England and Europe. The argument would be Robbo. Yeah, I don't disagree. He's done brilliant, he picked up the slack and by the way, Omar Baradi and Jason Wilcox and all these behind the scenes that were getting pelted us, if it had gone the other way, they wouldn't even have been out to sit and watch a game at Old Trafford. So they were wiping the sweat when it started to go better. But it still doesn't get away from the fact. This is man united and as he the best man. Going to your point about Iriola, now there's someone that has done it and proved himself in the Premier League. When they've got managers from abroad before, they were, you know, Amarin, oh he's done so well in Portugal, he's this manager, he's that manager. When he came over, then he couldn't cope with it and he couldn't cope with the players, he couldn't come with the systems of play, the other teams of play, whatever it was, he couldn't cope with it. So maybe a manager like Iriola who has done it in the Premier League for a couple of seasons might be better. Have we seen examples of that in the past? We'd say Thomas Frank taking the step up. Obviously Graham Potter as well. But I don't have a question about making the step up. Before we go to Neil, I don't have an issue and I mean this at Hawks and Serdey. I don't have an issue with this decision. It is a role of a dice. But what I would say, and it was the same thing with Solskjaer, was if there was any other of these elite clubs and United, although they haven't been playing elite football the last few years, certainly they're an elite level club, there's no getting away from that. But if any of these other clubs in any league were looking for a manager, would Michael Carrick be in the list for any of them? And the answer would be no. So it's a very difficult decision to make for Man United and if they want to go that way, fine. But you can have two sides to your story here. But they're obviously rolling the dice the way they are. Yeah, I totally agree. And I think one thing about Carrick in my opinion is like I've been speaking to lots of United fans and I'm almost throwing a bit of doubt in there. So he's sure this is the right guy. Is this the right fit? What are you doing? You're a nasty. Yeah, I'm like, is he sure this is the right thing? And every single one of them says we want Carrick to stay. I think he's speaking their language and some of the decisions that he's made through the season. They've just been really obvious. This is the same support that when Eric Tenhag won the FA Cup here, they were saying, oh, let's get him more training. Don't remember that game. Don't remember that game. And they gave him a new contract. What happens when he has a blip? So far, I mean, they'll give him that because it's him because it's him, they'll give him more time. Like I say, when he speaks his language, you can only judge a manager when they start to have bad before. Yeah, for sure. And then you see how they react to that, how they react in the press, how they react on the pitch, what they what changes they make through throughout games, what they do with the players, you know, off the field. That's when you judge a manager. And at the moment, he hasn't been through that. You went through it at Middlesbrough slightly and got the sack. Yeah, obviously, two completely different, completely different clubs. But I think in my mind, as I say, he's put Kobe Mainu into the side. Yes. Amarim said previously, he cannot play. He's not good enough. He's put Bruno Fernandez slightly further up. Fernandez might break the assist record this season. He's doing stuff which the fans like to see. They're winning games. And as the stats were showing, they've won 10 games since he's been in charge in the Premier League. That is as good as anybody. But Nedam, he's doing stuff that almost everybody... It's so simple. Yeah, he's doing stuff that almost everybody has gone. Why is he not, why is he playing Fernandez as deep as he is? Why is he not doing it? Why is he not doing it? And I'm not taking away from what he's... But those things, he's gone back to basics. He went back to basics with the back four, with McGuire. And when Martinez came back in, he's got some performances out of From Heaven and Euro, Shosman, Fit and Betzer. The whole season. And so yeah, he's a smarter guy. He's played the game at the highest level. He's looked at what he's got and thought, right, this is him there and him. Let's do the basics and we'll go from here. I think that is much easier when you're interim manager than when you get the job full time. The sort of pressure cranks up. The problem we also have is, when Craig said they needed an elite manager for an elite club, how many elite managers are there in the world these days? Who would you say, go around, you know, I don't think he's a good manager. So we don't know he's an elite... What should we say to him about you loving him? But I think he's had his time in England and he has a row with the board every so often and he wants to have a fight with everybody. I still like him as a coach. You still got those posters up in your room. Yeah, I have still got posters. And I'm always wig as well. That's why that's what I'm looking for. He wouldn't give it to me. But I'm not sure there's that many elite managers in the world these days. There are certainly elite pundits. Unfortunately, they're not with us. So Craig, Robbo and Nadum will be saying for extra time, which as always you can check out over on our YouTube channel. Killian Mbappe, the big story in Spain after being booed, coming on as a substitute in their victory on Thursday at the Santiago Bernabéu. Afterwards, in the mix zone, he said that Alvaro Arbeloa said he was the fourth pick forward. Arbelo in the press conference on the same night said that, well, the Frenchman was speaking nonsense. Interesting stuff. And of course, we've got a situation around where you've got this file ready. And then Mbappe's coming on and just pulled gas all over it. As if any coach, as if anybody would believe that Arbelo would say Mast Antuano and Gonzalo Garcia and anybody else as a head of him in the pecking order. As if any coach would say that. Do you know what though? We're at that stage where, particularly when we've got our Champions League final with PSG coming up, we've completely gone the opposite way under the ownership. Particularly Luis Enrique, who went, don't want big egos. I want really good players who work really hard. And I think a Florentino Perez wants to take, and by the way, he's got the fix being out as well, trying to defend himself. But I think if he wants to bring a coach in, be it Mourinho or whoever it is, and he wants to take this club forward, I wouldn't have said this six months ago or a year ago. But I do think they need to get rid of the Mbappe's and the Venetius Juniors of this world. Because it's just, and they've had success in the past with the sort of me, me, me, the big star sort of attitude and the big moment attitude. But the table's turned now, the game has changed. Isn't that dangerous to group them together? This is of course, Venetius Juniors was up for a nomination to be the Ballon d'Or winner with success with Real Madrid winning LaLiga. What do you mean group them together? Like you're saying you've got to get rid of the likes of Mbappe and Venetius Juniors. But is this not a case that there's just too many? So you've got to get rid of one of them. And it looks like they've already made up their mind that killing Mbappe needs to be the way to go. Well, there's more than one bad apple in that dressing room. Right. And just because you're a great player doesn't mean you could be surplus to requirements. And again, I go back to the model of PSG and even Man City here tomorrow, it's not the best version of Man City at the moment. It's one that's probably going to finish second in the Premier League. But over the years with Guardiola, when they won 4 out of 5 titles in a row, they won the Champions League, they won the Carribo Cup, the FA Cup, they played great football but they worked hard. And this model at Real Madrid, I think is broken. And you have to have these galacticos to call them. But I do think the game has changed in a sense to the way the game has played, with the pressing and the dynamism. And I think gone are the days where you can be as successful as you were in yesteryear by having passengers. And by that I mean when you don't have the ball. And I think if they had anything about them Real Madrid, they would seek out the troublemakers, they would get the most money for them and they would change their model. But I don't think they will. I don't think they will. And that's going to be a problem for the next incumbent in this job. Focusing on this in Mbappe, what's interesting since Arbalo has come in, basically when Real Madrid have done well, he said it's the players, when they've done bad, it's all on me. So it's not someone you can imagine who's there really to stir the pot. So what has killing in Mbappe got to gain by coming out and saying these things? What's he trying to achieve? I really don't know to be honest, because I think from my perspective it seems as if Mbappe is coming back from injury, so the manager has made a decision that you can't start this game for his own sake. Well it wasn't necessarily Arspain, it was a bit like a board. You've been out for several weeks, three or four weeks, you usually come back from the bench. Don't get wrong, there is a sense of ego of any player that when you come back into training you believe that you are fit and ready to go, but the manager has the final say, does he not? So hold on, one second, let's get the time frame here. That classical we did was last Sunday. Yep, last Sunday. This game we're talking about was Thursday. Thursday night. Thursday night. Yes. So I think looking at it from even from Arbalo, there's a bit of a saying, you're telling me you're ready to go Thursday, but you weren't ready to even put your hand up for the classical. And to even help out, which I told you would be the case at the time because Kelly and Bappi, certainly this year, Real Madrid, they're in the rearview mirror. He's giving up on them. He's got a World Cup to think about with France and the hamstrings and all of that sort of stuff. So Real Madrid are playing second string at the moment, which sometimes you get that as a player because you think there's a World Cup, I want to be fit for it, but I don't think it goes back to being on holiday when the Bernabeer was crashing and burning and he was off. And this is another example of just not reading the room. I just don't understand it. But he also went one step further when he said we were doing really well under a good coach. Javier Alonso, the manager, they tried to get rid of the players. We were doing really well under them and then it all changed. He didn't say when Arbalo came in, when Alonso went. So hang on, one minute you're slating the manager, the previous manager, because he wanted more discipline. Now you're saying the new manager, it all went wrong because we appointed him. Is it as simple as saying we're going to sell him Bapé in the summer? Well listen. To who? Well, that's interesting. The only place he can go I think money wise is Saudi Arabia or back to PSG. And PSG don't want them. Right. You may have noticed there. How much would you want him? If PSG can be better without killing him Bapé, Lionel Messi and Neymar, Real Madrid can be better without them. It's not a stupid comment to say, well he's one of the greatest players that's playing the game. I don't argue with that. But when you have the French national team coach, DDD Shomps, and they've had success, of course they've won a World Cup and all that. But DDD Shomps is admitted, because Julian Veronso, our colleagues, is told us this, that he has to accept the fact that killing him Bapé won't chase back. And that's international football. So if you want to chase back for France, what are you going to do? You're not asking him necessarily to chase back, but go and close the ball down and just be part of the defensive unit. Because he might be the first person to have got this season. For a rubbish, old round with DDD side, he had those goals for PSG, but it didn't make them a team. But he also, the manager has to, or the coach, has to build the whole team around where he isn't. Because he's a centre forward. That's where he's playing in the team. He's playing as a centre forward, but he's hardly ever there. He goes out to the left wing, he goes out to the right wing, he goes into it. He's almost saying, I'll do what I want to do. So the manager, when he's doing these tactics, how do I fit other players around that and get people getting into the box? How can I do this? Because Bapé does what he wants to do. And you can't run a team like that. He's a great individual. He's a, absolutely, I don't mean as a person, I don't know him as a person, as a footballer. I don't talk about people personally, because I don't know, apart from the fact when they go on holidays during the season, whenever he's getting stuck. In terms of on the field, he is an absolutely, brilliantly talented individual. You have to ask yourself the question when you have a football club. Do I want a bunch of good players with a supremely talented individual here or there, or do I want something that fits the mould of my team? Right. And that's where Ray Amadrid have to ask themselves the question. What direction do they want to go? Mr Man City. Hello. What's the biggest thing that you've seen cut price over the summer? Crazy to say, but no. No, but I think Craig made the point. Stevie said he wouldn't have a Liverpool. This is such a ridiculous conversation. No, just because Craig made a great point at the start, which is where, well, obviously. You're going to personally. That's what, yeah, of course. But you made the point that everything nowadays is about the collective football today. You look at the teams that will say top of the Champions League group, you're looking at Arsenal, you're looking at Bayern Munich, supremely talented players, the collective, the work rate, the graft being almost impossible to play against at times. If you have someone like Anambapa, you can score all these goals, like a finished score, all these goals. Well, when you're defending, defending with nine players against a team that will do everything as a collective. So when do you think it changed in football where your great players don't have to work? Because the great players in the past. It's cold there. It's cold there. Money. But you still had to work and then closed the ball down. But I think. The defensive side of the game as well. I think even what we were saying there, where you said like, for example, Anambapa won't come back. If Anambapa won't come back, it means that immediately the manager's undermined. Because that same manager going to look to someone and say, no, but you have to run back. So is it just the case of having a strong manager? Lewis and Rico. Lewis and Rico. Lewis and Rico. Lewis and Rico. Lewis and Rico. Lewis and Rico. Lewis and Rico. Lewis and Rico. Lewis and Rico. Lewis and Rico. Lewis and Rico. Lewis and Rico. Lewis and Rico.哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎 at the highest level he has to run. That is Robbo said, that's the first basic, hard work is the first basic of any sport. So if Carlo Ancelotti struggled with it, and he by the way can put out fires better than anybody, Mourinho's a strong manager, but he doesn't put fires out, he chucks gasoline on them. So I don't know how that's gonna work. I think the defensive side of things as well, there's obviously different ways to do it. And you're asking your forwards to try and win the ball back. You're asking them to defend against like another striker or to be in defensive areas. Like there is the ball, go and work hard to try and win it back. Don't even have to win the ball back. We're gonna force them into the air. If you're the sender forward, and it goes to the left side, it's sender half, you say, well, you're not gonna play across to the right side. You don't have to do that much work. We're gonna force it to the left back, we're gonna close down there. And now you've got a shape to your defensive. But you have to have a team to do that. And you have the player to do that. And the people watching this, right, and honestly the Real Madrid fans watching this, going, these guys haven't got a clue. They're just absolutely bonkers. They're talking about getting ready and barbie. The argument will be that nobody in the planet thought getting ready, messy and all these players that PSG was gonna make them better. But that is the blueprint. A manager who is strong willed in what he wants and a club that backed him. They backed him. He said, look, great players, but we need, if we're gonna be successful, we need to do it a different way. And the argument for Real Madrid is, do they think they can do it the historical way going forward? Or do they feel they need to do it in a more progressive way? Of course, Barcelona have clinched the title, but there's still a lot to be decided at the other end of the table. You've got teams fighting for survival over the next couple of weeks. And of course, you can see all those games live on ESPN+. So the bookies have Manchester City as the favourites are going into the tie. Of course, they're looking to add the FA Cup to the Carabao Cup that they won earlier in the season. Chelsea are looking to bookend their season after, of course, being crowned world champions in the summer, looking to end the campaign with a win in the FA Cup. That's why we're all here. That's why we're standing here on a Friday night. Wembley arch behind us. Beautiful. It should really be a fine of a week's wages for you even mentioning club world champions. They are club world champions. That is it, into the next tournament. That's where they are. They both have had a layup in the semi-finals. It's certainly made hard work of it against them. Chelsea had a layup against them. It's looked at them. They did the fault. They struggled. Chelsea had a layup against them. Setting half was a bit tougher. I think they might have went to a back three at Liverpool. This is all very boring. They all went to... They never stopped you before. I think they might have went to a back three at Liverpool last week. The tactical side of it could be interesting tomorrow, how they go and how they set up. But yeah, if City play to their level, it could be a tough day for Chelsea. Chelsea have still got some good players. If you look around the squad, the defenders are coming back into the side, which is going to be fully fit. I mean, James, I think, is an excellent addition to their back four. But Neto is a good player. You've got Gio Pedro is a good player. Fernandez will make runs into the box. Quesado is a good midfield player. If they can click together and they can play well and play at their very best, they can still cause man's city problems. Because man's city, although they're at the moment, I think the best team in the Premier League in terms of their form, they still look vulnerable when teams hit balls in behind them. They still look vulnerable on the counterattack every so often. And if Chelsea play at their very best, they can cause some problems. I still think Gio Pedro is, to me, he has almost a level above what's at Chelsea at the moment, in terms of the way that he thinks and how he sees the link-up player and his whole... That was happened when we had the semi-finals, wasn't it? He was the leader on the pitch trying to sort everything out. Yeah, well, you saw the difference in the balls going up to Calvert Lerne, which weren't as good a ball in terms of quality. But anything that went up to Gio Pedro that was only half decent, he was able to sort of hold the defender off, bring it down and... He's just a very talented player. Robbo's right. They've got... And I'm his coparmar out, sorry. Yeah, and that's what I was going to say, coparmar. Now, they played a bit better last week at Liverpool. But is that Liverpool? So it was a little bit better than it was, because it's been dreadful. It was a six-strike defeats. But as Stuart said, they have good players, but they've got a lot of good players who haven't played particularly well. Certainly have late, but I think they've also got a lot of top players and big names that are disillusioned, disillusioned with what's going on behind the scenes, and that's translated onto the field. So they have got a performance in them, whether it's going to be tomorrow out here or not. I just don't know. I think awkwardly, the odds that he showed at the start of that piece were the same for last year when they played Palace and the year before when they played against United. I don't know. Do not remember. But from a city perspective, this in some ways reminds me of the game they played against Spurs in the Carabaquo final a few years ago, where Ryan Mason was on the touchline for Spurs in that game. I think Mourinho might have just been sacked not too long before that. I think it was set two days before that. Yeah, literally. And I think City, as you said, they arrive in a better moment. You know, they have the confidence to have been winning games of football. To be honest, Chelsea haven't. They won the semi-finals against Leeds, which many of us thought they'd probably struggle in, but they managed to do that. And they do have the belief, but you've still got a back city. And also, just to say, that semi-final was actually tough of City because Southampton have got a really good scouting network. Yes. So in reality, they actually did very well. Exactly what meant City did. They did very well to hold them off. Send us up to see what Ryan Cherokee and Ellen Holland do. Shall we get some predictions? It should be a fun final. It's a theory of both teams playing their best. It should be entertaining. No, it should be. I don't see any reason that either team would, and certainly City won't, I don't see any reason that either team would try and sit in and shut up shop. They're both trying to play. Yeah. How much City can dominate and get it out to the wide players remains to be seen. If it's a menu against Cuccarella, that should be fun. You know, there's all these little battles. You know, Cole Palmer, if he plays, and Rich James, will he play him? He could play in midfield, you know what I mean? He's such a talented individual. He could do that. So there's lots of subplots. And the other one is, come on, you must be in the know. Quad, the oldest going, isn't he? I don't know, he's talking about that. It's the days for 10. No, that's the term. I can't remember what he's talking about. He's off for my point. No, my point. No, that takes so long. I wanted to drink. My point being is, with such an illustrious career... Right, he wants to end it on a high. 100%. At the FA Cup. This is a big game, Daniel. Yes, I know, I understand. He wants to end his season. Yes. But they're not going to win the Premier League. Yes. They're definitely not going to win the Champions League. Right, this will be a swan song. I think, personally, this is a swan song for him. OK. That doesn't give you any guarantee you're going to get a victory. But I just feel that's an extra inspiration for him. And he's taken Bernardo Silva's leave in the soft. Yes, yes. He's been absolutely brilliant for this football club. So I think there's lots of reasons that City might just want it a little bit more. It sounds strange because it's an FA Cup final. But this Chelsea side, as I said, they've had some players that are a little bit disillusioned. So yeah, I think City will win this game tomorrow. Do you want to score a line? Yes, I would, Mr Berley, please. I'm hoping for a really, really good game. And I'm going to say 3-2 to Manchester City. Oh, we can say 3-2 as well. I was going to say 3-2. Oh, you can say 3-2 as well. No, I can't. I'll say 4-2. I'll take that. 4-2. Oh, wow. I'm going to go, if Chelsea play without fear and the two centre halves under pressure, both with their runs in behind. And also when they press the ball, I'm going to go for a tool draw. And you're going to go to penalties and I'm going to go for Chelsea to win on pitch. Is there any sign of... You're just desperate to get this with time. Listen, to be fair, I've been told... What about you, Dan? Why always me? To be fair, all the bars are closing at half-ten, so we're going to go for another round of half-fee. Is there any chance some of these players haven't been fully fit for City are going to play tomorrow? Any surprise? Which ones? Cardio, Diaz, Rodri. Very... I'm going to say no, no, no. There we go. Glad you asked that. That was worth it. Oh, you didn't ask it. Well, I didn't need to. You did, did you? Because it was. I did my research. I wonder if Rodri will play tomorrow. No, I don't think so. Did you see the dismissive way you said that? FA Cup final, live on ESPN 2 and ESPN Plus tomorrow. Our coverage starts... Why is it so... Why is it 9am bit? That's where we're on. That should be large. 9am Eastern is when it starts. So the Emmy Award winning series returns, Rob Mack and Ryan Reynolds continue navigating running the third oldest professional football club in the world. It's great, obviously leading up to this. Be sure to check out the latest documentary season. That is it. That brings us to the end of today's show. It's been a lovely evening so far. And I tell you why don't we continue it with extra time. Apparently you're leaning out of shock, Craig. 35 years in television. What have you been moaning about? You put your... No, other programs. Tell the producer. Just to start with that. Welcome into the latest edition of Extra Time. We are outside Wembley ahead of the FA Cup final. Or should we say bonjour, Craig? Craig was telling me earlier, the grandad that he is, he can't change the language on his rental car and everything is in French. I've been using a lot of colourful French language shouting at the screen. And every time I go above the speed limit by one mile an hour the bloody thing bleeps. That's good. That's what I'm saying. What limit is it? You should follow the law. Why breaking speeds? Right then. Let's go. Sorry, I've got to get to the... Send that text yet. Yeah, he's just sending a text yet. It's great to be back at Wembley again. We've been across the Villa game in my hotel room. That was the room. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't know but we did have a little... You had a little room beside. Why you saying that? It was very strange to start with. Did you really watch it in your room? Yeah, we did. Did you watch it? I didn't. Wait, you weren't invited? It's a question. I'd really, isn't it? How's Wembley Craig these days? Chirpy. Chirpy, definitely. I've noticed a big difference between chirpy Craig when he's at Wembley. And that miserable bloke we get in. The thing is, there's no denial from anyone here. No, no, no. It's not even Craig. It's not even Craig. That is like the mass muddler over there. Talking to the serial killer. I mean, like, it's like, it's a misjacket. It's not a kill, yeah. That's the nice thing is, when I get a bit of fresh here... Yes. It's amazing to get out of that studio. Right, Craig, even if Smer survives this season, are they eventually going to get relegated if nothing is done at the club? No. You think that's fine. This is a blip and an anomaly? Yeah, they were... But last year they struggled as well. But they weren't near the relegation in the end. No, that's... No. Because of Deserby? Would you look at that sports squad and say that's relegation material? Haven't seen them play much of the season. Well, I think they're terrible. Yeah, no. I think Deserby will make them better next year. Yes, they will. Yeah, I agree. I think Deserby's probably the right fit now. I mean, they don't have two tougher games than West Ham. Oh, there's no game to play. No, no, no, no. I'm sorry. Basically, they need one more point if West Ham don't... West Ham are waiting Newcastle this weekend. Chelsea. Depends on this game. It goes tomorrow, doesn't it? I'm not sure I'll talk to them again. Is it ever? No. Yeah, Chelsea never turn at home. Chelsea never talk to them. Did you see Spurs against Leeds? I was expecting them to play like they did against Villar. I thought their confidence would be up. They were really cool. Who would you rather be, though? Would you rather be the team two points above them? I'd prefer to be the team. Yeah, that's probably me. I still don't think Spurs would get a point. They might not need to. Fnadem. Would you sell Savino to Liverpool if they came a-knockin? He's failed to convince and Liverpool need anybody not named Fringpong at right wing. No. I'm going to say no to that one just because there needs to be something coming the other way to say, yeah, let's just go and do that. I think if everybody's fair, you can see why he wouldn't play. But it's still also, it's like 22 years of age, so there's technically still time. If Moresca was fired in November, would Chelsea be battling for relegation? If Moresca was fired in November, would Chelsea be battling for relegation? It wasn't. It wasn't. It wasn't. I don't want to get on. Because under Moresca... Ah, OK. Right, I get that. I'll explain to you. OK, so they've struggled, they've struggled since, so if you gave it more time for them to be able to struggle, then would they be lower down? So they got sacked in December, January. Right, I understand. If it was sacked two months earlier, would they have lost even more games? Why were they letting that, can he, stupid question? I know the boss chose it, he's just over there. Why were they letting that stupid question? Sacked in the morning. I think it's a great question. I think it's probably the best question we've had so far. I don't think we've around a bit. Nice work, good luck. Good luck. Nice working with you. Final question. Mr. Burley, have you ever filled a World Cup sticker album? Of course, the Panini stickers coming out. I haven't even filled it. Well, collected it all, got it all. Oh no, but I shined a lot recently. Yes, Craig is a limited edition, is this not in Bargo, does it? Money in the pocket. So you signed limited edition Panini stickers, which people can find in a Panini... We're not getting sponsored by a Panini by the way, but this is a good one. So your picture in the Panini, did you have blonde hair? No, no, no, no. What did you... Well, was it the normal filter? Well, I can do either if you want. No, it wasn't, it was actually just a little sticker, and I had to sign... Did I say it? Was it 3,000? 3,000, yeah. What you thought was going to be... He was moaning about it, Robbo, a lot before you... I thought it was going to be an arduous task. It turned out a lot quicker than I thought. Yeah. Because I got a little... And do you know which picture they're using? Is it the no teeth? Is it when you got sent off? Once the money's in the bank, they can use any picture they want. That's it. Oh, yeah. I don't know. I've still got my 1986 World Cup Panini sticker album, which is full. Exactly. It's got Stevie on. Of course it's got Stevie on. Yeah, exactly. The other night, you opened it up, go on, Stevie! Woo! That's exactly what I do. Mayhem, do you still have your old stickers? No, no, I don't have them for you now. I had a little bit of action in front of 98, but it's a long time ago now. Oh, you got me? I guess I might do, yeah? I'll look into it. I'll sign it if you want. It's not cheap though. No, it's not cheap. Finally, Robbo, did you collect any sticker out? Can you imagine me collecting stickers? Can you really imagine me collecting stickers? No, I didn't. No, your kids, you didn't encourage your kids to do it? No, absolutely not. No, you punished them for doing it. Didn't your parents run a corner shop? Shouldn't they have had stickers, didn't they? Not in the 70s. Oh, no, they were in the 60s and 70s. No, I didn't. I didn't know that. Your parents had a shop? Yeah, they had two shops at one point, and we used to live above it. Where'd you live, Rob? And you never felt that that could have been your vocation in life behind the counter? No, no. You should have been friendly to me. I'm so stupid, you're at the time. Whenever somebody walked in the shop, get out! I'm gonna buy something. I'm very upset that you think I'm miserable and aggressive. Just in judging everyone coming in, buying shop. Oh, yeah, I judge everyone. Yeah, you can't. You want that? No, what they used to say is, because we had an off-license as well. Oh, dear. You could tell all the women that were coming in and getting their bottle of gin and taking it back up. Oh, dear. Not good. No, there we are. On that note. Oh, that's great. That is it. We'll, of course, be back live tomorrow for the FA Cup final. Tonight we're gonna have more stories from Scorner Shop. You