Jim Cornette Experience

Episode 613: Holiday Merriment

174 min
Dec 23, 20255 months ago
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Summary

Jim Cornette and Hawaiian Brian discuss the final Jim Cornette Experience before Christmas, covering listener emails, wrestling news including an NXT women's title change, AEW Dynamite from Manchester, and various tangential topics from garbage collection tipping to White Castle's partnership with AEW.

Insights
  • Professional wrestling booking consistency is critical—AEW's arbitrary rule changes week-to-week (interference allowed/not allowed, talent departure policies) undermine storyline credibility and audience investment
  • Star power and heel heat are not interchangeable—MJF's popularity as a heel overshadows baby faces, creating a structural problem where the most compelling character cannot be the champion without confusing audience allegiance
  • Finishing sequences matter more than match length—a 20-minute match with an anticlimactic finish (second DDT after first DDT) damages the entire bout more than a shorter, decisive match would
  • Theatrical wrestling storytelling requires audience buy-in—attempts to add cinematic meaning to matches (Cena's sleeper hold as 'letting go') fail when the audience rejects the premise, regardless of performer sincerity
  • Tournament structures create booking constraints—continental classic round-robin formats force matches between unrelated characters and dilute title significance through overexposure
Trends
Decline in professional wrestling audience engagement—AEW viewership in mid-500k range with collision at 200k suggests audience fatigue with current booking philosophyOver-reliance on spot-heavy wrestling—modern AEW matches prioritize setup-heavy flippy moves over psychology, requiring obvious cooperation that breaks immersionInconsistent rule enforcement in wrestling promotion—AEW applies different standards for interference/physical contact based on segment needs rather than established kayfabe logicHeel characters outperforming baby faces in popularity—MJF's dominance as most popular character while positioned as heel creates structural narrative problemsCinematic/theatrical wrestling narrative attempts—industry-wide trend of adding deep emotional meaning to matches that audiences interpret as pretentious or inauthenticTalent retention through exclusive partnerships—White Castle/AEW collaboration and similar brand partnerships used as promotional tools to maintain audience interestStreaming-era wrestling pacing issues—shows structured without commercial breaks or quarter-hour ratings create pacing problems and audience drop-off points
Topics
Professional Wrestling Booking PhilosophyAEW Dynamite Programming AnalysisNXT Women's Title Vacancy HandlingContinental Classic Tournament FormatHeel vs. Baby Face Character DynamicsWrestling Match Finish PsychologyTheatrical vs. Athletic Wrestling PresentationAudience Engagement MetricsProfessional Wrestling Rule ConsistencyTag Team Championship BookingWrestling Talent Retention StrategiesCommentary Quality Impact on ViewershipWrestling Spot Execution and SafetyBrand Partnership in Professional WrestlingWrestling Retirement Match Presentation
Companies
All Elite Wrestling (AEW)
Primary subject of wrestling analysis; discussed extensively regarding booking decisions, talent management, and view...
WWE
Referenced for comparison regarding wrestling presentation, talent development, and viewership dominance over AEW
White Castle
Announced limited-time partnership with AEW for branded bacon brawl combo meal promotion at 300+ locations
NXT (WWE)
Discussed regarding women's title change incident where referee counted unplanned finish due to stiff landing
Diamond Comic Distributors
Historical analysis of how distributor monopoly in comic book direct market created multi-hundred million dollar busi...
Capital.com
Sponsor providing trading platform with 4.6 Trustpilot and 4.8 TradingView ratings
Raycon Audio
Sponsor offering essential open ear buds with 20% holiday discount via promo code
Shopify
Sponsor providing e-commerce platform for entrepreneurs to build online stores with AI tools
Prize Picks
Sponsor offering daily fantasy sports platform with early payout feature for basketball and football
People
Jim Cornette
Primary host analyzing professional wrestling booking, talent management, and industry trends
Hawaiian Brian
Co-host providing wrestling analysis and commentary on AEW programming and industry news
Mick Foley
Discussed for withdrawing from AEW appearances due to company's political stance; praised for moral backbone
MJF
Analyzed as most popular character in AEW despite heel positioning; praised for promo delivery and verbal ability
John Cena
Discussed for controversial retirement match finish and cinematic storytelling approach to wrestling
Gunther
Referenced as opponent in Cena's retirement match; discussed regarding title booking decisions
Samoa Joe
Discussed as world champion in AEW four-way title match; analyzed for promo delivery quality
Adam Page
Analyzed for lengthy contract signing promo and stilted speaking style in world title segment
Swerve Strickland
Discussed as world title contender; criticized for unclear promo delivery and gibberish commentary
Cody Rhodes
Referenced as podcast host interviewing John Cena about match philosophy and storytelling
Jack Posobiec
Discussed as right-wing Twitter personality who engaged in online conflict with Cornette over Mick Foley
Steve Regal
Discussed regarding historical tag team title reign and phantom title switch in AWA wrestling
Jimmy Garvin
Referenced as tag team partner with Steve Regal in AWA championship reign discussion
Dick Murdock
Anecdote shared about working with local wrestler in Albuquerque and professional conduct standards
Chad Keeney
Sent Christmas gift of vending machine merchandise and photos promoting Cornette's book at rest stops
Jack Feffer
Subject of upcoming biography by Corey Santos; discussed regarding wrestling promotion history
Isaac Townsend Flato
Historical figure who funded Jack Feffer's wrestling promotion and built Ridgewood Grove Arena
Corey Santos
Writing biography of Jack Feffer; provided historical research on wrestling promotion figures
Roderick Strong
Discussed as technically excellent wrestler underutilized in continental classic tournament match
Jon Moxley
Criticized for match layout and finishing sequences; described as worst wrestler in the world
Quotes
"I gave everything thank you for everything and in that one moment that was that going peacefully"
John Cena (quoted by Jim Cornette)Discussing Cena's retirement match philosophy
"If these people don't like me I'm doing something right. I'm telling the truth and doing the right thing like make foley unlike you and your ilk"
Jim CornetteResponding to Jack Posobiec Twitter conflict
"They ought to put a set of Raycon earbuds in all the guys and girls ears when they go out there and they can tell them every move to make in real time"
Jim CornetteDiscussing NXT women's title match finish
"Nobody wants to see the great wrestling star just give up and just slip away they want to see him go down fighting at least"
Jim CornetteAnalyzing John Cena's retirement match
"The spirit around that event and the feeling there. Should they have paid attention to that for this"
Jim CornetteComparing AEW and WCW retirement match presentation
Full Transcript
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For all this and so much more holiday merriment. Hawaiian Brian, the podcasting lion, the king of the Arcadian Vanguard Podcast Network. Mr. Co-Ostee you. Hopefully he'll find a new organ in his stocking. Be great Brian last everybody. Aloha Jim. A pleasure to be here once again. Hanukkah's over. It's now Christmas time. Merry Christmas to all the listeners and what a wonderful holiday season we want everyone to have. So when does Hanukkah, I think we've asked, I've asked this before, but is it same dates or it differs in the dates? That's right. And it ends Sunday. It ends Sunday as we are recording. So it would end Sunday, not the Sunday before Christmas, but the Sunday before Christmas. That's right. And then a few days later is Christmas Eve and then Christmas and then you're just waiting for New Year's and not doing anything. So you get like 15 fucking holidays, right? Yeah. Is there, there's the 12 days of Christmas, but there's 12 days in Hanukkah, but we don't. What eight days in Hanukkah don't add 12. I thought there was 12. I thought there was. I'll take them if they offer them. That's more gifts. Well, I thought there was 12 days in Hanukkah was the takeoff on the 12 days of Christmas, but I never got Christmas. When I was a kid, 12 days in a row, it was just the once and then my mom said, all right now, back to real life. Did you ever do? I mean, it's a big thing now. I mean, as I'm saying this, I don't know if it was a bigger thing then like an advent calendar. Oh, no, help me. Where like what we're starting like December 1st, the days leading up to Christmas is like 25 days of, you know, it's like a special calendar. Now they do all these things were like an every day you open it and you get a gift. You pull out a little gift. Where the fuck are you finding this shit? It's all over the place. The kids are they all love their advent calendars. My son got a little Lego City advent calendar. My dad. When I was a small child, I was lucky to know what day of the week it was. Are you can they didn't give us that shit written down where we could keep track of time that way they could keep us in school longer. But no, besides. You knew you knew when the last day of school was you could you could determine that they'd give you a number, whether it's December 19 or whatever the fuck it was depending on the way that the days were laid out and of course the Christmas season. You knew that and you knew Christmas Eve and you knew Christmas. And you were too young to give a fuck about New Year's at that point. So after Christmas Day, that was that was the big one. But no, I didn't get a series of daily presents leading up to the goddamn holiday. And you didn't have elf on a shelf where your mom would have to wake up and hide the elf every morning so you'd have to go find the elf leading up to Christmas. Are you fucking if I'd have been searching around in places in the house for the shit that was hidden she'd have with me. Fucking presents early huh. Come here I'll give you the fly swatter get that know what no that there was none of these you put the presents in the box and you wrap the box into paper and you put the box in the wrapped in the paper under the tree. And you set moon that it and sometimes you could pick it up and shake it and try to figure out what was inside of it but then you got to unwrap everything on on a Christmas morning. I dive never heard of daily presents or calendar countdowns or whatever the fuck you were discussing. And we still have no idea if the garbage pickup is going to happen Christmas Eve morning. Oh good Lord. All right now hold on. No we can move on with the show. I just wanted to say that to you. No no no no this was off the air. This was a discussion at you and I had off the air with our lawyers for the record with our lawyers. On a call with the attorneys. And by the way not that we were being the defensive part we're the offensive part we're very offensive in this in this legal matter. But the point is is you were trying to ask me you said hey do you which your garbage pickup happened on Christmas Eve morning like December 24th or sometime in that in that day and I said well that's not my regular garbage day but usually if it if the garbage day falls on a holiday then they will pick it up the following day and that's not a holiday. And then you blurted out that you ask me what you should tip your garbage collecting people. No I asked you what you did tip I didn't ask you if you should because we do I asked you what you do and you lost your mind. And I looked at you through the connection here like you had statement turds hanging out of your mouth because how do you have connection or any contact with your garbage people is the question I asked to know who the fuck you're even giving you why would you give money. You've got private garbage people of this defined city in Jersey then New Jersey there that you live in does not furnish your garbage collection with with with with your tax dollars. What the fuck are they paying for up there. You've got some kind of private garbage collection service and they have already informed you that they're open for tipping. Well you put it in such an a ferris way let me just take a couple steps back. We have people who do the garbage pickup we have people do the recycling pickup on different days the same company I don't think it's uncommon for a lot of areas here in northwest New Jersey to have private waste management specialists who handle things. And they leave an envelope usually wishing you usually a couple weeks before the holiday a merry Christmas a happy new year and they make sure they write their name there. And then you return the favor by leaving them something with the garbage a little card and you give them a tip for the year of work and that they only one recycling bin in the year that's progress. The year of work they fucking come by and they dump a bucket into a truck at the end of your driveway once a fucking week apparently sometimes not even that how is that a year of work. First of all they've already let me know they expect it so what do you think is going to happen if we're the only family that doesn't tip them. Secondly I was actually looking on the local community Facebook group where a lot of people post interesting things about the community than other people just want to post shit anonymously it's pretty funny. And apparently there are rules because someone said they tried to hand the garbage man a gift and he said we're not allowed to accept gifts from people so that's why you attach it to your garbage. They can take that they can take anything with the garbage but you're not allowed to actually tip them person to person. Okay wait so I see instead of like they get their contributions from the human fund instead of from people or whatever you've got to put literally put the money with the garbage so that they can get both. And I told you that for the ever that I've ever lived here and in most other places that I've never tipped or interacted with my garbage people because they drive a big truck down the road. They stop in front of my garbage buckets they have a thingy that comes out and picks the bucket up dumps in the truck and they set it down. And they go on down the road and do the same thing everywhere else I would not be able to pick any of these people out of a police lineup and they have never tried to contact me. One time. Like this was 15 years ago. I'm sitting out there in the driveway doing some it's a summertime. And the guy comes down the road and he picks the bucket up and when he dumped the bucket he lost the bucket went in the truck to he took my goddamn garbage bucket. And he's pulling down the guy and I'm like hey. You got my garbage bucket. And he's gone I jumped in the fucking truck and I pulled down this driveway and I took off after him and I've got by the time I got my keys it was a he was a little bit ahead of me. But I caught him around the curve by the dairy farm. And I pulled over in front and I waved I said hey you got my bucket. He's like I know I can't get it now they'll have to bring you a new one. Because I guess he couldn't get up in the truck and get the bucket. When you said I jumped in the truck I had the funniest thought ever I thought you jumped in the garbage truck. No not the garbage I jumped in my. No he was already going to I jumped in my truck my vehicle black beauty because he was already going down the road and caught up with him but they sometimes apparently they can make that mistake but otherwise I've never had any interaction with my garbage people in the city takes care of these type of things out of the taxes that all us citizens pay. Do you tip your mailman. No, I tip my mailman. Now there's a limit on how much you're allowed to tip the postman so you have to be very careful but they won't be able to accept it. But you got to tip the people who are regularly doing things for you. Well hold on. If they're coming to your house on a regular basis they get a tip. He drives up to my mailbox and sticks shit in or he drives up the driveway and drops the stuff off. My guy comes to the front door and fights with Swami. Well see now that's a whole different story but big my UPS guy the regular guy that's so nice to me and puts all my supplies where I want them in the garage and everything. I just gave him an extra $25 or whatever it was last time that he was the NC also some of these times these people just come and go and you don't see them. I can't sit on the porch and wait but again for good though or whatever the fuck. If you get a card that says it's been an honor picking up your trash for the last year Merry Christmas to you and your family signed veto and Javier. They want a tip and everyone else is going to do it. I can't be the only one not doing it by the way they deserve it they're lifting my if it's the same people all year. They're physically lifted they don't have a truck that just comes and picks the bucket up and dumps it in they're physically picking this shit up and everything. Both garbage and recycling appear to be the same system which is one driver and then one guy hanging off the back and kind of doing all the grunt work. So it is unfair they're splitting the money it should really be a more than half. What the fuck? What kind of goddamn happy days world are you living in up there back in the 50s? When I was a kid they had a guy hanging off the back and seen a guy hang off the back of a garbage truck in 40 years. What is going on up there? 40 years I mean it's a regular thing and by the way it's good for the local economy it's another person getting a job. It's good for the local economy to have a guy hanging off the back of a garbage truck when he loses his grip gets run over he'll turn into goddamn fertilizer and help make the yard green. And all that tip money will be really appreciated wouldn't it? Where did you put this? I'm putting this out to the cult of Cornette. Where and where do you not see anymore in this day and age just residentially picking up garbage a guy hanging off the back of a fucking truck. It's all mechanized and computerized and sanitized and then the thing just comes out the lift and it takes the bucket and it puts it in and boom and they drive on down and you never even see the shit. They don't even have to smell it anymore. And do you tip your garbage man? Do you tip your mailman? Because I think most people at least the mailman I think most people do the garbage man may be up in the air but again we don't have the municipalities. The garbage man may be up in the air it sounds like he's hanging off the back of the truck. He's in the air you see technically he is in the air. Alright. You haven't seen anyone hanging off the back of a garbage truck in 40 years that's a ridiculous comment. It's all over the place. I am just saying well. It's all over the place. When's the last time you've been to Metropolitan Louisville Kentucky? The last time I did I got a police escort out of town so I don't know. Well alright see there then they were pulling the fucking garbage I remember that night but nevertheless. Yeah that's not a lie. And you thought for sure she was 22 years old. Hey come on that had nothing to do with a girl it was about you bloody heels beating up Tommy Richie causing the fans to turn on us. Just a riot. Just a small riot but nevertheless. I am telling you. That I have not only lived here but I've even in Connecticut. I can't recall seeing a guy hanging off the back and if there's any place where a guy would hang off the back of a truck. It's Connecticut but alright. You know though in general New Jersey is the one state still although there are some people trying to get rid of this and I hope they never do. That you don't pump your own gas you stay in your car every gas station has to have a tendency to pump your gas. Oh I know. Which is the best thing ever. The greatest thing ever. No that pissed me off 25 years ago and it would piss me off even further today because you got one Gomer Pile motherfucker in any kind of peak situation. You've got to pull up there waste the time you could already been fucking filled up ready to go on getting the guy's attention or having him service you with your pipes and your tubes and whatever. Your tank. And it takes twice as fucking long. And then you have to interact with people. I get the fucking gas get the fine amount of goddamn. Schedule I'm doing the Lamans I'm in the wrestling business I can't just hang out and talk to goober about checking my oil. How about that. I don't know. I don't talk. All you have to do is pull up hand in my card and say fill it up regular. Well that's like and then he hands it back to me I don't want to get out of my car in the cold air which you always complain about. And then I just drive off and go about my merry day. That's exactly how it should be. America that's that's the American dream not getting out of your car to have to put gas in it. All right. Hey dad America you already John Cougar lasting camp. You're assuming in this commercial that you're shooting for this oil company that that fucking attendant with his spotless outfit and his bright smile is standing there at that pump. Instead of inside the fucking hut taking a shit. Or try to talk on the goddamn phone back when it was had a wire connected to the wall. We saw his girlfriend or something and it is not coming out to give you the D. I didn't even know about it. The one of the first times I just pulled up and turned to pump on began pumping my gas and was going to go in and pay as normal if it got showed up about halfway through. It's like. I got it buddy. Oh I'm supposed to do this. Oh well carry on. Again another one of the great features of the garden state in Jersey. Yeah along with people hanging off the back of a truck. Jersey working men. Hard working men who appreciate their Christmas tips I guess that's the point. This is your show for a. Yeah well thank you very much. Just again for someone as financially penurious as you are to be just handing out money to these. What you have to take care of your people. If some guy just knocks on your door some day it says hey I'm the garbage guy. Go ahead and give me my tip would you know who the fuck he was. Does they have to show some kind of credentials. Do they have a garbage collectors of America card. Again that's not the protocol and I already know. How do you know. How do you know. You can't have face to face interaction. Here's what's happened. I know what's happened now and we'll move on. This isn't your garbage people at all this is a scam they go around behind the garbage people and they put that card on there. And they wait and see if you're a sucker enough to stick some cash on top of a garbage can and then before the pickup that day. They fucking come around and goddamn snatch the money off the garbage people don't even know anything about it. You have been you have been scammed and perpetrated against hoodwinked bamboozled shyster even. That's what's happened. I think veto and Javier will know all about it. Well now we go to the great state of West Virginia real quickly I just thank you Chad Keeney. The nation's number one blind vendor. You know I've talked about Chad before he sent me all kind of clocks at talk and all kinds of various gifts and he stocks all the vending machines there on I 79 and West Virginia up and down the various play in all the rest stops. And so I probably say Chad Keeney has probably been more rest stops on the side of the interstate in West Virginia than probably any other human being. So he's got that going for him. Guess what he sent me for Christmas. Which one of his things that he rips off blind people with that he send you let's think. No he doesn't he is blind he doesn't rip off blind people he's a blind person rip it off people that can see. That's why we root for it. What did he send you did he send you a piece of a piece of wood but right hey I got you this book. No he I've given you a clue with the man's the man's career here the man's line of employment he sent me a box of all of his merchandise honey buns and bear claws and three musketeers and some chips and all the vending machine I haven't had an iced honey bun. It years and that used to be. Basically from like 10 o'clock at night until seven o'clock in the morning. All you were going to get at a hotel in the way of anything to eat was chips crackers and honey buns and the vending machine so I haven't had one in ages what's honey buns like a cinnamon roll. What's a honey bun what is a honey bun iced honey you said ice honey bun. Well you put icing on it rather than just the regular honey bun so it is like a cinnamon it's it's it's well it's kind of it's a. Yeah it's it's I did that flavor that genre I guess you would say but it's not a cinnamon roll it's a honey bun. And he put icing on it. Fuck some matter just like a cinnamon roll but yeah you you you does it contain garbage you tip garbage men and do not know no I don't think it does actually but you tip garbage men and they don't know what a honey bun is differentiated from a cinnamon roll. So I coffee cake I'm starting to lose my patience with you. I guess I'm gonna have to tip you. And there you are. Well we'll talk about that off air and also Chad has started a campaign he sent me some of the pictures it's pictures of my travels with heroes and friends is what he's calling it he's taking my book and he's having his picture taken holding it in front of all the various rest stops along the highways and byways of the state of West Virginia. And he might throw caution to the winds go all the way into fucking Pennsylvania someday. Well good luck. Yeah good happy holidays Chad and good luck on your travels and good luck in West Virginia and Pennsylvania. I've got this. Hold on he's I've got these pictures copied out Fayetteville West Virginia Bridgeport West Virginia. Oh North and Southbound. So he went both Chad goes both ways across the and Orlando West Virginia. And there you go. Already my book is packing on the mileage. I'm pretty mighty. Real quick before we have any more frivolity, a couple of folks have written in and I've found again some emails from the last few weeks folks so it's been busy I'm sorry if I haven't caught up but Matt from the UK sent us both an email to the corny drive through account and he's had a rotten year he lost his mother in the last year then his dog his. As of 10 days or so ago his aunt was really sick and you know might not have made it to this point. And you know he's again he's got two beautiful girls, daughters that and a wife he's you know trying to keep it together for but sometimes he listens to us and our inane antics to feel a little better and we wanted to everybody to send him. Some kind of happy holiday wishes Merry Christmas Happy New Year. Etc. I don't is he in the UK do they say happy he's from the UK. Happy Christmas. That's right happy Christmas to you and your family and your garbage men whether or not they're part of the local. Why did they say happy Christmas over there and Merry Christmas here. Has anybody ever figured that out. No. Well I thought you'd check into it. All right anyway, and also a fellow named guy. As opposed to a guy named fellow know his name is guy. A citizen email and Brian you know this when he guy lives in Indiana. Got a beautiful daughter that's a teacher, a couple of teenagers ones of freshman and college. And the other one, you know is graduating or about to graduate probably high school. Unfortunately, I guess just a little over a year ago, his other son, he lost him in a horrible incident. Let's just put it without going into all the details because I don't know if he wants to be public that he wrote us but it was just as the whole family has been torn up and trying to deal with that. And so he's got a guilty pleasure for the last year or so and again, he's got a guilty pleasure he listens to us at night. Brian instead of getting on one of those fancy Dan new phone sex lines or whatever, so that he can cheer up a little bit. Well you know, you're there you're under the cover of the blankets over your head. You got to pay right there's a fee attached to that so it takes away some of the joy I would imagine. It's not a $9 a minute but hey what is this what's a dollar for inflation. How much would a one 900 number be now if it was on TV $5 a month probably probably $900. That would be the meaning of the 900 number it's good $900 that will tell you whatever you want to hear but anyway guy we hope that we keep telling you whatever you want to hear and we're so both of us Brian and I sorry to hear about. What has happened and hope you guys get fixed soon as much as possible. Yeah we're thinking of you Merry Christmas to you and your family and it's an honor to know we could be there for you when you need us and hopefully there'll be more stupidity in the future the show will get better. I promise. Well see, but that's almost impossible to go the other way at this point in it so it's got to it's got to get better things can only get but who did that things can only get better with some new wave pop. Help me. What was the song you were just telling me that you hate more than anything else and I'd never heard it from 82. Oh I love a rainy night. What. Okay you're the music expert I'm just telling you in the fall of 1982 Eddie Rabbit I love a rainy night I love a rainy night I love to hear the music and lightning and lights up the sky and all this bullshit is this fucking country was taking over pop radio and everything. And that's all that they played on any radio station anywhere especially in Tennessee and I was telling you before we went on the air that that coincided. The first three months that I was in the business on the road full time like 10 weeks out of that on Friday I was in Tupelo Mississippi. And then out of those 10 weeks it rained and I was driving through a goddamn rain thunderstorm lightning in the middle of goddamn nowhere Mississippi trying to get to Tupelo on time for the show and I'm having a rainy night and I fuck you. God damn it I hate the fucking rain. Why'd you remind me of that. It's raining here today. But it's day. It's a rainy day. Now there then the cow sills can come in and it's a little bit more fucking pleasing. Never look them up kids the cow sills you'd be surprised what I was trying to say to you. You'll be surprised. What does that mean. Well they were very groundbreaking and nobody talks about the cow sills anymore. They talk about the partridge families of the world and the things like that. That's where they had the partridge family were based on them. Yeah and the rain the park and other things. Who wrote it. I saw it standing in the rain. Who wrote it. She can make me happy. I don't know. Artie Cornfeld wrote it. Artie was I think the youngest vice president in a rock and roll at one point he was one of the four partners in Woodstock. And he is quite a trip on social media nowadays. I already wrote that song. I can't tell you how much of a let down that reveal was I was thinking you're always Neil Diamond right before he wrote the fucking monkey's head or some person that the average son of a bitch might recognize. I gave you a good trivia. It was a good friend Marty Cornfeld. I don't know if I'd say he's my friend I met him a few times but I don't know the guy. Well I'm going to talk to Marty and see what he thinks about you before we go any further. I knew Michael. Let me get him on the phone. Michael Lang was a very nice guy. I've got an update. Brian on what we were talking about when Steve Regal passed away. Well I can't say what he passed away a few weeks ago when we found out that Mr. Electricity Steve Regal the Indianapolis Steve Regal not Lord William Regal again. We found out that he had passed away over the summertime sometime but we just found out about a couple weeks ago we talked about his career. And we mentioned that when he and Jimmy Garvin as a team were the ones who dethroned the Road Warriors for the A. W. way. World Tag Team Championship when Road Warriors were leaving to. Come mostly full time for Crockett. And then they both within approximately the same time frame Regal and Garvin both left the A. W. way and there was a what a lot of people have called a phantom title switch to. Oh god damn it. Scott Hall and Kurt Hennig. Right. But maybe the match didn't happen. Maybe the match did happen. Have you seen that were you included on this email from from Max. I believe I would. Hello Tamali. He's a frequent guest. Max Tamali. He's been on stick to the rest. No now hold on a second. He says an occasional guest of John McAdams. Don't. Oh he's done a great job. Frequent. He's done a great job. He knows his stuff. I'll say that. Okay but he's it don't. Don't say he's frequently on. He'll occasionally drop in but don't accuse him of being frequently on. For heaven's sake. I apologize profusely. So he says. Oh Max Tamali. Kurt Hennig and Scott Hall beating Jimmy Garvin and Steve Regal for the A. W. way World Tag Team title in Albuquerque New Mexico on January 18 1986 has long been considered. A phantom title switch however that match might have actually happened. The card did happen on that date in Albuquerque. Here's what was advertised for the A. W. way in Albuquerque on January 18 1986. And then I got a funny story. This is why I'm actually bringing this up because this popped me even bigger than the match may have happened. The opening match was going to be Jackson Cromwell Brody versus Hillbilly Tudor. More on this in a minute. The Mongolian stomper who was there briefly in the A. W. way that at that time period against Mike Cook. Scott Hall versus Boris Zyrkov. Nick Buckwinkle versus Larry's Biscoe. Garvin and Regal versus Buck zoom off and Leon White and Stan Hansen versus Crusher Blackwell. And he goes on to say Brody, Tudor and Cook were local indie wrestlers either Tudor or Brody had the promotional license and ring that were used that night. However, he goes on to say Regal, Garvin and Hall were all billed as appearing. Also all three plus Hinnig were on the previous evenings card in Denver on January 17. Hinnig, Hall and zoom off lost to Stamper, Zucoff and Nord the Barbarian. So basically he says Hinnig was an announced for Albuquerque but by this point with the A. W. way announced of what it actually presented. We're very often different things. Yeah, it's reasonable to think that Hinnig was in New Mexico that night. And that a title switch happened after Regal said he was leaving, which Regal was going to world class and he popped through there before he came to Charlotte and Max says Garvin stayed a little longer and made at least one more TV taping for the A. W. way before going to Charlotte. So this is not proof. But it's evidence and he asked did Regal Hall or Hinnig ever comment about it in their lifetimes. And he said he would have ever asked Garvin about it. I haven't watched all the shoots that they might have done, but one would think if they had that we wouldn't still be asking this, would we? Yeah, and you have to think there's someone who was there that night. I mean, they sold tickets and may not have been a great amount for Albuquerque A. W. way in the in 86, but there were people there. If there was a tag title change, someone would have said something, but he's right about one of the big things there. And it started hurting Vern when Hogan left. But it got worse and it got at times. I don't know if it was intentionally done, but it seemed like it billing things and people that weren't going to be on shows with Hogan. It was accidental. Vince McMahon stole him. He no showed all those shows. Well, and then it was on purpose when they found out and kept advertising, but I get your gift. But I'm saying the A. W. A. That's one of those things that I think began to hurt it more and more because. They were a disorganized organization with a small office run by very well. And that's the thing is that sometimes it, you know, very well could have been malicious, but oftentimes it was just. Keystone cops. We don't know what the fuck we're going to be doing from time to time and it was falling apart or whatever. So. We don't know, but. Hillbilly Tudor. Brian, I may have one that you haven't heard. I've told this on a shoot interview 20 years ago somewhere. But this was in January 1986. This a W. A. Show will remember when I managed Dick Murdock. In the action with him two different times. Once at 87 and then some in. 87 into 88 and a little bit. 89 or whatever, but nevertheless. It was sometime in 1987 that Crockett went to Albuquerque and ran the tingly Coliseum. I remember like it was yesterday. And the guys we were on our way to. Crockett was getting was trying to run Los Angeles at that point. It was, you know. Had run there a few times and we went to San Francisco, what whatever the fuck. We're in Albuquerque and they didn't fly everybody. Out there because it was still being run like a business in those days. We if it's the. I can't remember which specific show this was it was at the road wars versus midnight express or whatever the fuck and there's dusty and there's flares that they've got. Four or five matches and they put local guys on a car. Well, it just so happened at Dick Murdock. Was the odd guy that ended up working with a local guy. And of course Murdock can work with anybody right. And I'm going out with him and then I got to come back out later on it was the main events with the midnight against whoever the fuck it may be. And so we look at the lineup thing and he's working with they didn't call him hillbilly tutor. It was slim the hillbilly. I think this was another example of dusty maybe or somebody said the we willy Wilkins thing. Where's like no you're not blue thunder your we willy Wilkins. Well, no, you're not hillbilly tutor. They called him slim because this guy was like six foot three and three hundred and twenty pounds but he looked like a miniature little John Harris. All of it a big bulb of stomach and just pimply face and. I get the impression the impression of him is just. With a fucking straw stuck out of his fucking face just the classic hillbilly caricature. And they. They said yeah you guys just go about eight eight minutes right of the dick he's like all right. You know we'll get eight minutes out of it and the guy is just okay yes sir Mr Murdock whatever no conversation it went like dick was going to call a match to this guy in the back right. So we get out there. And dick locks up with him and he has a guy do maybe a headlock or it tackles even takes a bump he's doing dicks Murdock stuff right to put the guy over without the guy having to do anything. And then suddenly the guy rolls as dick is sold something and you know tackle or whatever and he's in the corner and I'm pounding on the mat and I'm like oh dick. The guy rolls out of the ring and comes around the ring post it is walking straight toward me. And I'm like what the fuck is he doing. And he walks right up and grabs my tennis racket and starts trying to take it away from me. And I said what the fuck are you doing. And I'm not going to give it to him right and the thing is. I'm surprised because he is like 63 or whatever he's got him. I was a little tubby at that point but he's got 80 pounds on me he can't get it. I ain't gonna give it to him and he can't get it and the crowd starts popping a little bit because. And I look and there's Murdock and even though he could make those faces like he you know was. It's insane you could see if he was enjoying something from his cheeks and a twinkle in his eye and he was wanting to see how this fucking thing came out right because it's dead even I given an inch and he won't let go. And finally he's like oh fuck it he's got to roll out and he just blisters a fucking guy. And he throws him in the ring and just bam bam and drops elbow on him and does whatever fuck he does and just beats him right. And he came over to my raises hand and I'm like what was he fucking doing he said I don't fucking know right. So we get in the back first and then this guy comes into curtain. I said what were you fucking doing. I just thought I don't know what he was saying right he was going to get to I think his family was there. That was one thing that was mentioned by somebody is his family was there and he got the idea he take my racket and scare me and chase me or whatever. I said look you fucking moron. Nobody called for you to fucking chase me take my gimmick away or anything else I got to go back in the fucking main event with the fucking tag team champions or whatever and you're out here. You're in the ring with a fucking legend. The one of the best workers in the world who is graciously offered to go eight minutes with your fat ass before he beat you. Shut that up. You went into business for yourself you try to get my gimmick away and couldn't so you're fucking buried. And then he just has to beat you because what the fuck's he going to do now you've changed the fucking mood. So we didn't even get the time. Oh shit. And we just want that and that's the last I've seen or heard of the hillbilly and Albuquerque until he was on this fucking card. And you think it's the same guy. It's got to be because either tutor or Brody had the promotional license and ring that were used that night how many big fat fucking hillbillies would be named tutor or slim would be booked in two major cards in a fucking same town unless they had the ring or the license. How many times did that ever happen where you were booked against someone who you never really worked with before and you didn't arrange anything and all of a sudden they start coming for you and they have an idea in their head about something they're going to do. What's it. I'm trying to think if that may be have been the only time necessarily how are we talking about buzz saw your potato in my face. Right. Right. That's different. No, that's the thing. It's not about did we have it set up beforehand. It's about is it is it applicable. Does it have its place. A lot of times the boys would call you know drop down dive out chase corny without me knowing it might give me the fucking you know Iggy by giving me the I like here he comes or whatever but I know what's happening. I know it's being set up. I see it ahead of time so I'm ready for it. But it's about you don't some fucking local guy working with one of the biggest stars in Albuquerque New Mexico, Burdock West Texas territory, working with a goddamn legend with the fucking top manager on national television who is going back out in a main event just doesn't go into business for himself and go after the goddamn manager. That's bullshit indie stuff. There's there's levels to this as the kids say. So no. Because we were always working either with top guys where it wasn't any big deal for them to stomp my hand or chase me around or fucking play tug of war with me and or whatever the fuck. And this is entertaining spots for the audience or it was guys that knew not to fuck with me because they weren't at that level yet and they just get heat on themselves with the book or anybody else. Or like as they remember them and when the new breed flip Bubba Rogers his hat off at that spot show and I had to have him beat him both up and throw him out of the ring before they started the match so that we could then beat him. But that was another example wasn't me but was Bubba but that was that that was not their place. So that that in proper professionally organized promotions. The pecking order of guys to the fans was protected so that they would see the top guys were. Anyway hillbilly tutor I wish him well it's been almost 40 years my God the physical state of him then he can't still be alive. But if he is maybe his friends will tell him what a dipshit he was that night. So that was a good tip shits can we talk about this now Brian because I gave myself a Christmas present this past week and didn't realize I was doing it. And I shouldn't say gave it to myself I enabled someone else to give it to me sake to me baby. But I pleased myself because I fired people up on Twitter again this past week and well actually it was just about 48 hours ago this whole thing started. And I had you and I had covered the news about Mick Foley saying that he was not going to renew his contract and that he was withdrawing from making any appearances on behalf of the company while I believe the quote was they were coddling the current presidential administration was coddling the word that they are coddles which which tense was he using. I don't remember. Never the last I believe coddling well whatever but nevertheless we covered that because it came up as we were actually recording the last program and we did. And then when we got finished. Doing the show. I was looking through Twitter and find that because this not only made the wrestling sites about Mick but made the mainstream sites whether it be Sports Illustrated or people or the TMZs the world whatever everybody's on on this thing. And I'm looking through some of those, you know, media outlets that have covered this and blah blah blah on Twitter and I see this one fucking guy right I don't know why he's got one of the check mark. So I guess that's why I was able to see. But he says, Mick Foley is known for taking more hits to the head than any pro wrestler and Mick Foley is also the most liberal pro wrestler. So draw your own conclusions. And I'm looking this is this fucking guy that he's going to talk about Mick who actually has the goddamn because that's when I tweeted. Also at the same time I just tweeted congratulations to Mick and that I admired him, and that I wished all the boys had his backbone and his morals. I got like 40,000 of the fucking little hearts that the kids like. Apparently a lot of people agreed with it but this fucking guy. So he says draw your own conclusions about mixed brain damage I wrote him back. My conclusion is he's smarter than your entire weirdo fascist fucking cult and as principles. Imagine how damaged your brains must be to still believe the depth of depravity and bullshit. You have marred yourself in it. I thought that was pretty because I didn't hardly cuss at all. Bull is bullshit still a cuss word Brian. I don't know. I just saw a congressman Michael all were saying on CNN like once an hour every hour the other day. So you're allowed to say it on the news at least now. So I see I didn't even use the profanity right. And I wrote and then I do as I usually do we finished recording I get off fucking Twitter I went down I started unpacking the Christmas decorations right. And I don't I don't know whether it was later that night or even it might have been first thing next morning when I got up. I turned the Twitter on. And Jesus Christ it's just flooded thousands of there's people fucking maligning me and there's people arguing with the people maligning me and then the blah blah blah. And I've been spammed by the I got the bots out again is what I'd remember when I do something that apparently attracts a certain level of attention I get the box. But in this particular case, the one guy that I had replied to apparently is one of the fucking he's not like he's not a main piss boy he's not a main piss carrier where he gets to drink it. He just gets to hold the maggot piss to keep it warm. But he is one of the main Twitter guys for the maggot world. And he is sick. The rest of his bots and various assholes on me though you know you can. You can tell the the right wing I don't know whether they're actually real people but there's somebody behind them. But they've got Patriot in their name and flag in their thing and they follow 17,000 people. It's not even like the ones with the lots of numbers where they just make up like a bunch of accounts with 14 fucking followers or whatever. This is the heavy duty stuff where they they all get together and they say the same thing. Complete bullshit, but it's the same thing. And because they follow all these people and these people are gullible and they think they're real or they think they don't have fucking ulterior motives. They think it's a bunch of people saying that shit it must be real. Oh my god. Oh my god. Brian. His name is Jack. Poso be at post to be a everybody will just say piss boy. But he's the pizza gate guy. He is one of the primary guys. That convinced people that Hillary Clinton was running a pedophile ring in the basement of the pizza parlor in New Jersey. Oh get out of here that was years ago this is this is behind it. I swear to God that it look him up if you want to I don't know how does I don't want to. I'm still not sure exactly how you spell it or say I've never heard his name out loud. I'd never heard I thought he was some random guy on the fucking Twitter right he's one of the random guys on the Twitter. And he is again he's a I'd because we don't coexist in the same social circles right as me and Jack piss boy. So he doesn't know what say about me. So he's a I'd like insults or whatever I guess and so it's either a 35 year old VHS of me using inappropriate language in a parking lot while discussing a fight I was in. Or the same is shit that the cosplay wrestlers tried to do four or five years ago when they tried to meet to me to and and boy that turned out well everybody. Ended up going underground or being canceled themselves for being sex pass that was trying to fucking pin all this shit on the Cornette family. And he tried to insult Stacy but he called her the wrong name. I did see that someone sent me that they're like how come you've never talked about Jim's wife Janice. I don't know who that is. Well also because they're they're also trying to they're hitting me with the oh you've had too many steroids or I saw one guy said you've taken too many guitar shots to the. Like it all get wrestling guy what can we say about wrestling guy because I'm not noted steroid abuser one DDT too many. Oh yeah you know I've been noted for my string of concussions. But that's the thing is that it's it's exposes again what a scot can get back to piss boy a second but just this whole framework of shenanigans they've got going on. It exposes what a scam it is because suddenly these supposed just real people living their lives have to jump in on mass to slander anyone who has the opposing viewpoint from the orange hobgoblin and or his minions and it's because of piss boy that and his ilk as mama Cornette used to say that people do this because they just flood the when you hear this guy's resume. They flood the airwaves with just this bullshit and if enough people or alleged people repeated over and over then these gullible people that want or that want to believe this shit anyway. They get swept up in it. But apparently this guy went on some kind of string he did several things he tried to insult me and he got all these minions to retweet same stuff but also he wants to debate me in Phoenix. Apparently, I guess they got they've got something like I don't know the gathering of the juggalos but they do it in Phoenix. I don't know what the fuck it is. But what is it with all these they want to debate you. How can you debate somebody that speaks like they're on fucking hallucinogenic drugs. Wait, here's the pizza parlor debate. Okay, Jack Puss Boy, your opportunity. Yes, I believe that Hillary Clinton is operating a child pedophile ring out of the basement of a pizza parlor in New Jersey. And Mr. Cornette the opposing viewpoint. No, she's not. Is there more debate. You can't debate these people because it's not rooted in reality. And they will not admit it. So at any rate he wanted to debate me he said he would. Here's how closely he knows me as I said we travel in many of the same circles. He'd offer to pay for my plane tickets. I gave my never get me out of fucking plane. Because he knows I've been broke since the 90s. Where's he getting all this information is he talking to Janice. I don't know. Yeah, barely the barbed wire bat. Fucking Janice Cornette always causing trouble. So, when I read this, I thought, okay, I still I've never heard yet anybody say this guy's name out loud. And so I don't I'm not going to be an ignorant idiot like he is. I'm going to go to more learned people for my rebuttals and or comebacks. I'm going to ask the cult of Cornette. So I asked basically in a tweet. As it could cultist fucking turd blossom has a problem with me and Mick Foley not liking his. You know, President chitler whatever. Can you please tell me what's wrong with him so that I can pass it along to it. Everybody. Everybody had a goddamn different fucking complaint about this guy that responded again. There were some of the the right wingers that were still limping through but mostly it was like a rib because I'm like wait a minute is this the same guy to the anything I'm talking about a different guy here. Would you like to hear some of the resume of the guy that's telling me and Mick Foley that we need to modify our behavior. Yeah, because actually I don't know who this guy is. I saw you were having this fight. Some of the listeners sent over the Janice tweaks. I thought it was funny. But I don't know who other than the pizza gate thing, which again, I didn't know his name was associated with it. I don't know who this is. See this and that's why I say this is a Christmas present to me that he has given me because. He gets his message out. They he goes to the he does these things he drums up his own publicity you'll see here in a second. He does fake shit to get reactions out of people whatever. But he's one of the big ones you know that Trump himself listens to this guy because he's saying good things about him and the easiest way to circumcise Donald Trump would be to kick one of these fucking guys in the chin. So basically because he is now magnified my message to the real hardcore maggot audience. There is not only do they know what I think of them but there is a good chance that Donald Trump himself knows that Jim Cornette thinks he's a piece of shit. And this is the greatest thing that has ever happened to me. I'm telling you. But listen to this. This guy is telling me what we all need to do and you can go on the Internet. Internet. Internet Jack post a back post a be a whatever the fuck it'll it'll pop up. The variety of news outlets. Have reported on his outrageous conduct. He's been called a labeled or accused of being a white supremacist and anti Semitic and neo Nazi a Christian nationalist. He's a definitely a noted liar. He told people that the 2020 election was stolen he was one of those people. He was one of the main proponents of pizza gate and then when a guy went in and shot to place up he tried to backpedal. He's been called a potential Russian asset or propagandist. I'm telling you because of your go go go read all this in detail. Listen to what the Internet saying I'm reporting on what people are saying about this son of a bitch. He was in a Navy but he's an ex Navy guy and they suspended his security clearance. When when he was in the Navy or after he left the Navy. He was a number of years ago when he started I guess doing all this nutty shit. And basically the whole thing is if the pattern he's a right wing attention whore that starts trouble in public places sticks himself in the middle of stuff that doesn't concern him and tries to act like he's important to ride the gravy train of all the grifters. He's sprung up to support the mango Mussolini and the whole criminal regime they've got going and that's they have suckered people into believing. Not even Republican bullshit anymore I insult the Republicans by the maggot bullshit the Trump bullshit. He's on a couple of lists of extremists I think one with the Southern poverty Law Center for fuck's sake. He's had ties to the proud boys and the oath keepers. He praised the January 6 insurrectionists Philadelphia magazine called him the king of fake news. I'm not me I'm again I just compiled this this was the back of AIDS here. This is not exactly you know oh yeah it was a concerted attempt by two guys in their basement to slander me. No this is everybody every time that he reveals his public statements, deeds, words or actions he is offended somebody. And he apparently cheated on his wife on bumble do you have any idea what the fuck bumble might be. I think it's like a dating site or a dating app. Somebody tweeted me his picture of him with his cell phone taking a picture of him in the mirror with the thing it said to bumble and whatever the fuck. But he's like the Dan Ackroyd skit Saturday night live I've mentioned it's one of my favorites where Ackroyd is the talk show host who wants to be controversial the name of the show is talk back call 5 5 5 1 2 1 2 and talk back to me. And then they sit and stare in a phone done ring. And then he says something else a little bit more inflammatory maybe of a political nature and talk back to me and nothing. And then he escalates at a notch on some capital punishment and the phone rings and it's a goddamn wrong number. And then finally says killing puppies I'm for it. That's all these fucking idiots are doing they'd be nobody except they've hooked their wagons to this grifting gravy train. They're helping poison our country which obviously at this point I think there should be a water advisory don't drink the shit all over the country now our well has been poisoned to this extent. But they're all in on it and I after a day or so I tweeted him back. Thank you. Because again now. I can I can at least believe when I lay my head down at night that that pig faced criminal piece of shit that should be rotting in jail. But for this whole dis disinformation campaign. Knows that I see through his bullshit. That's a great best Christmas present that anybody ever gave me and I don't want. Or care for any of these people that he is summoned upon me to be my audience but I do appreciate. The hatred and vitriol because again. If these people don't like me. I'm doing something right. I'm telling the truth and doing the right thing like make foley unlike you and your ilk. I don't need to blame. The immigrants or the minorities or the gay people or the trans people or the Democrats or the. Fucking Polish people. Or anybody else for being a failure and a loser and a liar and a grifter. Like you and your cronies have cornered the market on. You keep carrying the piss I'll stick to Sprite zero. Thank you very much. Piss boy. Should we call for him if we need him. I think he's off of me now because a bunch of people. Who tweeted him the Sean Waltman rule. And since apparently he's dug in. At least far enough to know that. I don't freak out when people talk mean about me on Twitter. He won't. It was like 15 the first day and then he just won't get back. Do you think our relationship is over Brian. I don't know because you're really wonder how self aware he is or isn't obviously. Not limited to whoever this person is and I don't know I'm assuming they create content or do something like that but. There's an entire industry of people who. Create content and say things they know or think are wrong but. They also know where the money is. You know there's a lot of crackpot. Radio host podcasters that if they came out and said you know what. I've been misled. I told you the wrong thing. Or you know what some of the stuff I've been saying is really stupid because I realized I can manipulate all you now please listen to my sponsor. Who will say you seeds to replant life when everything and I just it's all. A fucking bullshit factory. And. You know it's kind of it kind of says something he exposes himself. When. He's clearly looking for attention from you he's looking for some kind of online fight. From you. But he also has no idea who you are and when he's trying to fight back. If he's giving you facts that are completely wrong and made up like Jim's wife Janice. I've heard people insult Jim for years I've never heard that. So if that's what he's doing to Jim what else is he completely batshit wrong about. Just because he's looking for attention momentarily whoever this is. Well again. If you go on I guess he probably even has a staff also and that's why I said I think he aides some of the insult or just the Google search whatever is that they they do. And whatever is the top four things on the Internet comes up or something. But if you go to any his Wikipedia or any of these online articles about him you'll go you'll go through 15 paragraphs of shit that he is made up or lied about or controversies he's inserted himself in. Or you know the whole right wing thing and I guess this thing in Phoenix is where they have a bunch of the really. Maybe is it an outlaw right wing thing where they don't have the like the really major stars but just a bunch of these YouTubers and shit stirs. But they they live in that world somehow and they have staffs that spread out and try to tamp down any dissent on the social media where they I guess they can get the teenagers I don't know. But again, I appreciate the attention for that audience because it opens up a whole new world jack to exactly what I think of them. And I just I wish that I had more. More personal insults to give but when you look at this fucking guy's resume by God it's like I'd be like kicking a dead horse in the desert if I start personally insulting him after everything else that everybody has said on the Internet. I think he makes Heyman sound like a goddamn guy with his hand on a Bible. He's like, you won't be going to Albuquerque or not Albuquerque. Where was it? It was no Phoenix. Albuquerque is where the AWA tag team. Yes, we'll send Hillbilly Tudor. That's right. It'll Billy Tudor and stuff. And he sounded like he'd get over with that crowd. But anyway, we'll keep everybody up to date if I've inflamed anymore of the fucking lunatics. But again, and one more Bravo for Mick Foley. But I guess we should switch now to some modern wrestling action, Brian, because I don't even I didn't jot down their names. It's just so preposterous that it happened. But basically the the other night on NXT television, the women's title changed hands, even though they didn't really want it to or plan for it to it just did somehow like it just it was gone. And it's gone. They changed the belt, especially on a show before Christmas, where they'd already taped stuff through the holiday break. And the girl challenging the champion is is that how you say it champion is and you do know the champion. The champion was Blake Monroe, aka Maria May from AEW. There you go. Oh, Maria May from AEW. Blake Monroe, who they're pushing to try to be a star. I haven't actually heard it's working out real well. But what's the other guy, Thea Hale. Thea Hall, apparently. Thea Hall. Oh, it is. You're right. Oh, now you change your story. Try to make me see. I've never seen this person. A pain of disinformation. Trying to make me look. Yeah, I looks like an L the next to each other. Yeah, put your glasses on, Paul. Anyway, Thea Hale came down like a whole goddamn thunderstorm on Blake Monroe and just squash her and beat her. One, two, three for the women's title and they've had to just change all of their shit and they got mad and they've instituted new policies. I thought we just conversate about this for a second. Because I again, don't understand how these things happen. I watched the move in question. And when Blake Monroe was laying in the middle of the ring, waiting for the move to be delivered upon her. And I would you say it was a fair description when I say that old Thea Hall jumped up on a second rope, I believe it was and sprung backwards. And instead of a splash where you splash somebody with your stomach, she's splashing with her back. Would that give everybody the mental picture properly? I guess that's a yeah, I guess that's the way to describe it. And she landed on old Blake Monroe as stiff as a goddamn blue vein throbber on 150 milligrams of Viagra. She what the f- She landed on this girl, home with her entire body weight and her feet were up in the air. And then when her when she finally came to some rest on the mat, I can't remember what she hooked one of Blake's legs or not, but she was grabbing she was hooking for the because it was supposed to be a false finish. And she hooked it up enough that between the fact that she had just knocked the breath out of Blake Monroe. And then she kind of hooked her. The referees have been told to count it as a shoot and they counted it. One, two, three. And also it again, somebody said that it looked like Blake still tried to struggle to get her shoulder up. I don't is close enough for rock and roll. But Jesus Christ, how do they keep doing this shit? And we've just seen a series of things over the last year where the referees had to stop a three count because the person didn't kick out. And then the referee was was a Nia Jax and J. I forget who it was. It was one time in a W was one time in WWE where the referee stopped here. The referee didn't stop. You could argue she got her shoulder up and looked like she tried to do something. Well, but at the same point, I'm not blaming the referee here. And I'm not blaming the unconscious victim. In this case, I swear to God, I don't care how green you are, you ought to know when you have landed on somebody in altogether too forceful fucking manner. I've done it a time or two than 35 years ago and all of those crazy six man tags and things involved where I try to do something and somebody will boom and oh shit. And it's been done to me a time or two. And I don't know. This could have been avoided. Instead of sticking exactly to the script or to the. The plan that they had laid out if when the came off the ropes and landed with all her weight on that fucking girl hard enough to knock the breath out of her. Instead of just immediately scrambling her up for a fucking cover and a pin, because that was what the spot that was called. She might sit up and glow for a second, like, oh, I just did that and turn around and look over her shoulder and see if her opponent still breathing. And then she might have turned over and just covered her the other fucking way. And she would have had a chance to say are y'all right. And the referee knows what the finish is supposed to be and that ain't it so the referee is going to be looking for a kick out so it wouldn't take much effort for the girl on top to have helped. Blake kick her off until she got her breath back. But instead, she didn't even look over her shoulder at that girl. She landed the fuck on top of her and hooked her leg up or head up or how she hooked her and just she was still looking upwards away from the girl she was covering. So. Brian, have you ever had. It's an old saying had the breath knocked out of you, but have you ever legitimately or the wind have you ever legitimately had that happened to you? I think so. Yeah. You can't speak. Right. There's no way you can speak. You can't really get up. It's not that you're paralyzed, but you don't have the capability until you can rectify that situation and start breathing again to really do much of anything. But you would think that if she'd turned over and covered her, she'd tell by the look in her eye or the limpness in her body or whatever the fuck and go, oh, shit. Okay, I'll do the roll up. But that's to me, that's what I saw. I was just like, Jesus Christ, you didn't care because they're just so used to potato and each other. And how many times do I talk about the matches that I do watch from either company? Oh, so and so just came off the top and just landed square on so and so with their ass or their knees or their full body weight or whatever the fuck. I don't know how there's not more broken ribs, collapsed lungs, hernias. I could go on. I've never seen so many people landed on in 50 years of watching wrestling is I have the last two. But what are they going to do with the Oh, they changed the policy to right Brian they they're making them state at the end of the show. Oh, I hadn't heard that. Have they? I believe that because apparently stuff that creative had to hurry and scurry and you know, figure out to oh, should we reshoot this or change this or is this going to work now. Oh, because they're about to holiday break, weren't they? Yes, yeah. Yeah. And so they had stuff already done. And they had to, I guess, pull shit that wasn't going to work or whatever but now I guess they're going to have another match and who knows they might do a flippity flopper they might try to swerve everybody and keep it on the of whatever the case but they've also said that all the talent has to be in the end of the show now. I think they're mad because they could have reshot something after that happened but whoever was in it had already left the building. But I don't know when that state that used to be events thing long ago 30 years ago anyway on TV. Everybody stays till till the end of the show and in case you're needed for something and I've in the early years 93 94 I was at syndicated TVs at 1230 and fucking morning. But what was it like before that like when you were a Crockett or Mid-South what was the rule in terms of when you could leave a show? Well, was it just after your match you have the option to leave or what was it? Well, with Watts he would every once while he would remind everybody that it was highly suggested that they stay and watch all the matches because if they were in the preliminary matches that's the way they would learn. See what the main eventers are doing the main eventers watch the early matches so you don't do anything that's already been done and god damn match in your match. And there were exceptions for major names or people had travel difficulties or whatever the case but that was the rule there. With Crockett on it I mean on the house show and also with the house shows the heels always stayed to help the top heels fight their way back through the crowd after the main event in Mid-South. With Crockett you could leave if you weren't going to be needed or whatever house shows but there was really you almost couldn't leave a Crockett TV if you were a top guy before the thing was over with they taped two one hour shows and we were live to tape in real time and we were on both of them and by the time you change your clothes and god damn things over with. So I just said it was always suggested that the underneath guys should stay to watch the main eventers and learn and the main eventers were there anyway. And with NXT the best comparison maybe OVW what was your rule there? Same thing you need to stay and watch what the fuck's going on for the reasons if you're on first you need to know what the guys on top are doing and vice versa. But again we had to break that because sometimes guys that have to go to their real jobs waiting tables. So this was the early days. But you know what they ought to do Brian to prevent the unscheduled title changes to keep that from happening. No what's that? They ought to put a set of Raycon earbuds in all the guys and girls ears when they go out there and they can tell them every move to make in real time right as it was happening. Sort of like a wrestling version of Twister. They could just broadcast okay lift your left arm place it over her right shoulder. And that way they could actually lead them through this thing like leading a horse to water but then not making them drink but what's Aubrey had to do with this. What about the Raycons Brian? Well what about them? You think they could talk to them through the Raycons? Because we already established that those ones that go in your ear they won't come out even if you're piled, or drop kicked, or hip tossed, or body slammed, or suplexed, or all kinds of stuff. So you can hear an arm dragged and now the essential open ear buds are here for the holiday season where they hook over your ear and you can listen all the great high quality sound that makes it sound like you're in the studio with Alan Parsons when he's mastering dark side of the moon. But you can also hear the honk of the horn of the oncoming car or train or bus or whatever is about to smite you. Because it's a holiday season and these things happen. Brian you know every time I get a package from Raycon Stacy goes crazy because she's got all the kinds of ear buds. As a matter of fact she figured out a way where she could take four pair of earbuds put them in various places on her body and have quadrophonic sound. That's not how that works. That would be amazing but no that's not how it works. 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Alrighty Brian well now it's time for that recurring segment on the program that we call comics corner. Because several people wrote when we were talking about Steve Jephy and the museum he had in Baltimore with the incredible multi millions dollars worth of comic books alone and just this warehouse it was packed floor to ceiling four floors of movie posters and toys and every kind of pop culture thing in the world right and Lauren Baltimore Lauren who we had read an email from sent me another email and sent pictures of the place that she had taken and I took a lot also when I was there but apparently they they changed things around they would move things and have new things come in when I was there the detective 27 and action number one were right there in the case with the all star for and whatever but she had pictures there was a sensation one and all the just incredible stuff right. We were trying to figure out. How this goof. Is started working at a comic book shop became a multi hundred millionaire and had all this fucking money right and the only thing. That we could agree on with anybody was this diamond comics distribution deal. Apparently, that's how he made all that fucking money. And we got an email from Jeff I don't know where he's from he didn't say but it was so detailed. That to be honest that would be a separate podcast to read this and react to it etc. But he tells the whole story but our friend Mark Cole up in Maryland who I used to live in Colorado but he moved. He said a more digestible email about this but Brian this is basically how this guy made all these hundreds of millions of dollars. I said Jeff he started diamond in the early 1980s to be one of the early comics direct market. Which had started in the late 1970s so. In the old days and back when I started collecting and brown I don't know have you ever seen the old comic books where. They would be sold or marketed or advertised a back issue as. Three quarter cover or two third cover or even coverless yeah I've seen you'd see those course. Well when comic books were distributed through the newsstands and the stores that had magazine racks and etc. If they didn't sell if the if the newsstand tore the. Massed head off for the logo or the cover and send it back they could get refunded. For the goddamn comic book that didn't sell. And then. They you know you could turn around and dump a box of those or whatever that's how they ended up in all the flea markets. But nevertheless then this direct. Market for comics. This diamond distributor started. Distributing the directly to all these new comic book specialty shops that were. Popping up. But it this was on a non returnable basis so basically. When comics shifted from being mainly a newsstand product with returnable stock to comic shops where stores bought their comics wholesale. They were non returnable. Throughout the nineteen eighties diamond bought out other distributions became one of if not the biggest distributor. In the mid nineteen nineties Marvel bought out a distributor called heroes world and made their books exclusively through them. As retaliation many other publishers signed an exclusive deal with diamond including DC dark horse and image. When Marvel went bankrupt in the late nineties they closed heroes world. And they had to go back to diamond. So this left diamond with a near monopoly in the distribution business. And once they had the near monopoly the company grew at a rapid rate. And apparently Mark worked at one of the. Early jeppies comic shops. Because in Delaware they were an early diamond account and. The jeppy knew the owners there but. Sounds like the Vince McMahon of comics distribution. Yes he just ran them all out of and then. There was also as Jeff's email went into he was also sell it buying and selling rare shit. And with the stuff that he had. I can't imagine what went through his hands with the. Selling but and then he's apparently. Allegedly. As our friend Baltimore Lauren says donated. Much who knows if it's all of that collection of the library of Congress for a big. Tax. Subs not subsidy but break cut whatever you see what I'm saying. Hundreds of millions of dollars from distributing comic books. By the way that's the company that went bankrupt. They had diamonds toys they were doing under that distribution plan and. They went bankrupt right now they're in the middle of it. But I bet you that he still got all his personal money. I just bet and personal comics. All righty then we also have an update from another one of the. Learned listeners. Remember this past summer when I took the trip to. The jackfeffer collection and Notre Dame with my old friend Tom Burke and his old friend. Chris McMahon no relation and my old older friend. Bobby Fulton and all of us were old. And you know we had talked about some of that on the program but there's a fellow. Name Corey Santos I think we've mentioned it before. That is writing a biography of Jack Feffer and I can't wait and we will. Obviously keep the folks surprised on that I can't wait till I get a chance to read it but. He gave me some incredible background Chris did McMahon did in an email based on this article that. Corey has written about it flat. And apparently I won't read the whole thing because then again this is a long. Historical document but remember we were making fun of his name. And I said this must be some kind of gimmick guy that Feffer had dreamed up when I first saw the letters and then. We realized he was an attorney did have an office and he represented Feffer and a lot of stuff and. You had. You'd looked him up in conjunction with some real world business. That he had been doing in New York in the 30s and 40s. But Isaac Townsend flat oh. Was his real name son of German immigrants and he started practicing law in New York as early as 1907. And he in the World War one. He was a local war effort. You know mover and shaker he was on the board of governors of the American victory union. A civic organization that included William Randolph Hearst. So he was a sports nut. And that's how he came in contact with. Feffer because he's the guy that built. The Ridgewood Grove Arena the new Ridgewood Grove sporting club. To host boxing and wrestling and opened it in 1926. And. Remember we talked about the Johnston brothers that had the. License for boxing and wrestling in Madison Square Garden or the family there were brothers and other relations right. He tried to get that. In 1925 and that's why he built. Ridgewood Grove Arena he did he built his own arena. So. He controlled Ridgewood Grove we've seen a ton of. Advertisements from wrestling there and. The early television broadcast Jamaica Arena. They did television there as well and the Deichmann Bowl. And then apparently. He got sideways with Jack Curley when Curley was still alive and that's what. Led him to start doing business with Jack Feffer. And he wanted to bring new blood into the wrestling business and another guy that he. Made the director of his wrestling I guess that was the title but probably his booker. At one point at Ridgewood Grove. Was Rudolph Miller. Who would later on be the guy that owned Pittsburgh Rudy Miller who would start Bruno Samartino give him his first contract. Well that was Jack Curley's office he had Jack Feffer and Rudy Miller in there. Those were his two guys. And then of course broke away and when the feather break away in comparison to it. Flato. Well OK in 1934 Corey Santos said. When the newly founded wrestling trust dictated the terms of the sport in the city of New York flat oh bulked. Rejecting the status quo and putting his weight in pocket book behind Jack Feffer's lighter wrestlers and the fresh blood offered by Ohio's Al Haft. There you go. There you go. Yeah. And there you go and he was. Flato had stated he wanted to purchase arenas in both Los Angeles and Chicago. As part of a larger boxing wrestling empire but that did not. Apparently come through. Apparently at a radio show. Just titled sports at 11 30 p.m. on W. G. B. S. Radio which is now W. I. N. S. 10 10. Oh wow. Are you aware of this station 10 10 wins it used to be music and then it became all news. He was also the protection that Feffer needed against an openly hostile New York State Athletic Commission. Remember we read some of those letters. And they were antagonistic to Feffer since his ugly divorce from Ivan Padovny. In 1927 they weren't pleased with his antics after he was excommunicated. So we got to research that a little bit more but basically. Feffer not only got funding from Flato and his connections. But it was also when remember when Feffer put Flato listed him on his draft card which was the signal that he knew somebody. And they should leave him alone. Feffer was always scared of being identified as a communist especially during and after World War two. And since Flato was a judge and a lawyer he was in the veterans organizations. He could keep people off of Feffer but that Feffer was in the same situation as Colonel Tom Parker when he managed Elvis. Feffer couldn't travel internationally or take a chance on get arrested getting arrested for the stuff he had done with the Russian Grand Opera Company when he was with them or his questionable paperwork. And Flato married a multi-millionaire widow in 1940. You know Feffer just loved that and apparently his wife was an LA socialite. And he ran Ridgewood Grove throughout his life until dying of a heart attack in New York City on November 10, 1956. And just to go to show you how people soon forget. Nobody from the sporting world which Flato had apparently devoted his life to came to his funeral. Feffer and a former secretary of the athletic commission of New York were the only ones there for a one-time Titan in the city sports scene. IT Flato. Ryan it's terrible how people just turn. When you're gone they just forget you. Where's his papers? You know I mean I'm sure probably tossed out or something if no one has them and they haven't turned up but it just goes to show you how many important figures there are. Outside of wrestling even. Who interject with wrestling. But we don't know anything about. I would love to read more about IT Flato. I'd love to read a Jack Feffer book. You'll get me wrong but IT Flato sounds fascinating. I guarantee you there is more paperwork documenting the goings on of IT Flato and the Jack Feffer files that exist all together and the rest of the world put together. I'm sure. But anyway well Corey after he finishes Feffer he'll do Flato and then he can sell them as a combo the Feffer and Flato combo. Alrighty anyway somebody else is trying to sell us something Brian. I'm not sure I'm buying it. Do you have I asked you to see if you could look up what John Cena is saying about the finish of his match that I know we've already talked about it but now there's comments. From John and there's people trying to. Give it this cinematic deep. Meaning of the the warrior realized that he had to let go and just he was content with his life or what the fuck is going on here. Is what I'm asking you. What are these people saying they're trying to explain and justify the finish of the scene a goon through match which was obviously something worked on internally. And Cena. It seems like he it seems like all the things that people didn't like over this past year all Cena has done publicly is embrace it. Still. And this is no no change right here. Well but I mean. Since I heard what they're saying I'm thinking could this even have been John's idea because he has been in the. Motion picture industry for a while. But honest to God it sounds like I love Kevin Sullivan. But Kevin Sullivan. Set and told me on on Crockett's plane one night for about 45 minutes. The whole angle. And in all the happenings and all the motivations and everything that everybody was going to do and say behind that remember that triple cage tower of doom thing they did in the. What was it the summer of 88. Yeah. And not a lot of people like that thing. But the way he told it it was the greatest wrestling angle I'd ever heard and I thought if only we had just let Kevin Sullivan go out on TV for 45 minutes and explain it. Because it didn't get it when everybody else or they didn't get it rather when everybody else had to get involved. The point is is this some grand idea that John had for being artistic and deep and meaningful and cinematic and theatrical and thespianism and all that other stuff and for a lot of people is just flattered and fucking plate full of piss. Exactly sure. But we have some quotes here apparently seen was on the Cody Rhodes podcast. Those WWE podcasts are so funny whenever they plug it on raw it's like the same rotating group of guests. Nick cons on this show this week and then a week later Nick cons on this show and then a week later you'll never guess who Stephanie's talking to. Yeah we will. It's the same person I was on Cody show last month. But anyway Cody had seen it on. And I have a quote here. This was transcribed by the wrestling observer newsletter. For the last five minutes everything I preach about story and drama and having a conversation with the audience. The ones I love are in the front row. I know my colleagues are watching on the monitor back there. We're just in a sleeper hold man. We're having the conversation with the audience. As I essentially take my last breath. Yeah the audience was hoping he'd quit breathing earlier. Was that thunder. Boy it must be I hear it behind you. Holy shit. All right John I take it back. You're finished. Yeah man. You're finished is great. I love the match. Boy I knew he had friends in high places. Jesus let me get back to. That was very loud. I think God has something to say about all this apparently as I essentially take my last breath. I have struggled. If you think of somebody the natural causes scenario or however we picture loss in our life. All of us have been through it. They struggle. They hang on just long enough to make sure to say goodbye to everyone that's been meaningful in their lives. That whole day was so many unbelievable vulnerable meaningful conversations. As the clouds literally open up around me and rain comes pouring down but back to the quote. Then you realize I've connected with everybody I love physically. I feel great. I think it's time to take that last breath. And that's that. I keep going back morbidly to obituaries but like this person died peacefully knowing that like man we are in a good place. We're going to be great going forward. The bottom of the t-shirt says I gave everything thank you for everything and in that one moment that was that going peacefully. So I guess he was smiling. I've been watching wrestling for 50 years. I've never seen a great match where I could liken the finish to watching someone die. What is he have they all gone even John gone just insane over the smell of their own methane farts. That that is no. If I'm going to have to watch a loved one die I'd rather watch the loved one get run over by a fucking bus than die a slow agonizing death of a horrible painful cancerous disease. Just boom power bomb 123 dominant boom there you go is a five minute sleeper. In wrestling terms if that's equated to his real life analogy then about three minutes in some of the fucking younger generation in the family was talking about plug pulling. Yeah just get it over with it don't look like Gramps is going to kick out. What do you think just about what he's saying though in the way he's saying it again I'm sure him saying it is better than me reading it. But it's that Dwayne Johnson disease. I'm trying to pretend like you're smarter than the moment. Art C Fart C Art C Fart C Cena doesn't talk like a real human being anything you ever see with him in the press. It's I've said it before motivational posters but it's just he talks in a disingenuous kind of way he gets away with it. Such a nice guy but what is he saying talks it a motivating kind of way but it's not this. It's just again nobody wants to see the great wrestling star just give up and just slip away they want to see him go down fighting at least. And this again they've all convinced themselves that their actors and their entertainers and their movie stars and their whatever they're telling this deep and profound story of emotions and way. Fucking wrestling either put the heel over by a fucker let the baby face triumph in the end or goddamn something but make it at least exciting. And a five minute struggle with a sleeper at the end of this thing. Was just the flattest fucking way. regard it go to sleep. He put him to sleep. We can still wake him up it's not permanent. But he didn't have to just it's time for me to go I've done all I can do at last. The end is near. And so I face the German sleeper. I've made all the money here that I'm going to make. In this last year. Some awesome so now I'm just going to say fuck the whole goddamn career because I'm just going to tap with a silly smile. And then I'm going to leave here. Again Mr. Never gave never gave Mr. Never give up gave up. It's such a weird goodbye message to wrestling and the fans they're rejected it categorically. Whether or not it's a big benefit to goon they're going forward we'll see. But again you kind of have it's a big benefit to goon there and I love the people said oh he's got to heat like the old days he has more heat than anybody else around here does these days but it's not heat like the old days but still it's positive for him. Again I'd hate to have been the people in the building at night spent all that money. You didn't get as pissed off when you're just watching on TV is when you actually left your house and that weather to spend that account of money to go see that. But I wish they'd have made it more exciting. But you know ultimately they're just. They're trying to be way too theatrical and impress people on how deep they think about this. And I think they're thinking too deep. At least in the in the hole they're putting their heads in they've gone too deep with this one. And that's just silliness to be. Did you see the scene of quotes I'm reading in here I'm looking at different articles. The scene of quotes from the same conversation with Cody about the Travis Scott rock disappearance. Oh yeah which was kind of again you know nothing no details just well here we don't have them and now we do and we don't. Well he's trying to make it sound like it wasn't a big deal neither he nor Rhodes wasted time dwelling on what could have been here's the quote. Hey you have the rock and Travis Scott. You can plan all this stuff. Hey you don't have those two guys anymore. Not once did you and I the whole world has had the conversation of what it would have been like the two guys in it with their dick in the dirt. Not once had a conversation about man. What would it have been like if we had those guys know it was what do we do now. Let's walk down the hypothetical street. Everyone who showed up at the chamber is active until August. That robs us of John Cena Randy Orton that robs us of John Cena CM Punk John Cena Ron Cena John Cena AJ Styles John Cena Logan Paul me and you for the last one. So yes the story that might have been might have had star power and gravity and who knows what but what we got by just being like these are the pieces left but we got from me personally was beautiful. What is that was that Tony Khan. Yeah what is that. I completely lost any thread of what the fuck through that whole thing but that's because they're not allowed to say that rock came in and fucked shit up and then didn't want to do the shit they were left with when his rapper friend turned tail and took off or whatever and it screwed the whole thing up so it's just let's say a lot of words and now we've answered the question. Hey one last thing a weird question that I'm very serious about. Should John Cena and WWE paid a little bit of attention to what Tony Khan did for Sting. On the way out and the way he handled it forget about like the semantics of who was in the match or anything else. The spirit around that event and the feeling there. Should they have paid attention to that for this. Yeah. I think that there was an element of Sting the reason why I thought that they over gimmick Sting's retirement was having them have the tag team titles would it happen that was unnecessary it was something that was forced into the thing. But literally everybody that came to Greensboro to see that which was their biggest show of the year. I believe in terms of attendance or gate or whatever. They wanted to see Sting win they didn't want to see Sting lose Sting was not going to. At that point. On that night create a new superstar. Sometimes you got to give the people what they want to see and as I said I think he could have done if you tried that a year with John. In singles matches with all kinds of top talent to work with at his disposal. They could have. I think gotten heat on Gunther by. When they put the belt on John instead of giving it back to Dominic. Good there. I know they think good there's above the intercontinental title. But just done anything to put Gunther over and then still have a final match where he could go out in a more sunny. Situation or even if they didn't want to do that and they wanted Gunther to win his very last match seen as. Then have an exciting finish. And Gunther and still have a lot of heat. But I wouldn't be bitching about the goddamn match so much it wouldn't have. The last five minutes just being immobile I wouldn't the last time you saw. Five minutes of a main event wrestling match. With that much on the line and they just lay in one place in the ring. Andre the giant versus big John stud. With all due respect to both involved I don't think that was as big as this was. And the ticket prices were a lot cheaper. But anyway again. I'm not saying don't have good there when I'm not saying good there don't have him. I'm not saying just make it exciting if that's what you wanted to do. That's the biggest problem I had with it and the whole tapping thing with the profound deep emotional meaning. It didn't work it doesn't come across to people they want to see boom one two three or oh my God I can't breathe I'm unconscious or. Some type of urgent tap out because they're having a shit choked out of them not like. My friend I'll just tap now. Anyhow. What do I know Brian I'm only a successful business entrepreneur with many many irons in the fire. Do you do we have enough business entrepreneurs with irons in the fire in the world today. Or do we need some more in the year 2026 for a New Year's resolution. That's expensive. Well what about steel steel is even worse. You shouldn't steal that's illegal. Well that my mother irons and my father steals but nevertheless. 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Hope you're sitting down Jim. Well I am but would you like me to lay down. White Castle and all elite wrestling tag up for new A. W. Bacon brawl combo. Oh good Lord. A. W. Stars Tony Storm Brody King Bandito Big Bill Powerhouse Hobbs and Darby Allen if medically cleared. I'm up to promote new limited time combo available for purchase nationwide at White Castle locations starting December 27th. I can go on but let me get your first thoughts here. Well I'll tell you what if this kind of is perfect synergy the marketing campaign the strategy because when you think of something that gives you an inordinate stomach pain of feeling of bloatedness where you're emitting gaseous stentions from your body you think of White Castle and watching A. W. Well let's get some of the details here. White Castle America's first fast food hamburger chain and all elite wrestling one of the most dynamic brands in professional wrestling today unveiled the A. W. Bacon brawl combo available only for a limited time nationwide starting December 27th through January 31st 2026. The two iconic brands are partnering once again. White Castle's bringing the bacon and A. W. is bringing the brawl for a high impact flavorful feast for Cravers and wrestling fans exclusively available only at White Castle locations nationwide. The A. W. Bacon brawl combo features two White Castle bacon cheese sliders White Castle crinkle cut fries and a drink a combo worthy of a true champions crave. What? Wait a minute hold on. They didn't even include the explosive diarrhea amazing. Well besides that there is literally one ounce of meat in each of each White Castle so they're literally selling you two ounces of hamburger meat with a bunch of bread some potatoes and a goddamn syrupy sugar drink. And White Castle as you know is it's something that you you every once every five years you realize oh man I haven't had White Castle in ages I want to have some White Castle and then you have it you realize why that it took you five years to want it again. Well some more info here I have a quote from the vice president at White Castle Jamie Richardson. A. W. and White Castle both know how to bring the intensity. And this combo delivers on every level. I'll tell you what I almost never got rid of those hymroids that last one cost me. The A. W. bacon brawl combo is bold and built for fans who crave big flavor and big moments. Whether they're watching the action and and big shit. Watching the action or fueling up between matches or letting the fudge monkey out of his cage or dropping the browns off at the Super Bowl or firing off a chocolate rocket whatever you might be doing this collaboration will blend the bold flavor. Of White Castle with the high intensity spirit of A. W. and will have extensive promotion across A. W. platforms and select White Castle locations. Several stars. Time was Tony Storm Brody King Bandito Big Bill Powerhouse Hobbs and Darby Allen will appear across custom content promoting the A. W. bacon brawl combo on A. W. programming such as down. I know Darby Allen's done some dangerous things before but he's actually going to eat this shit on camera. White Castle will also support the promotion within restaurant and exterior signage at over 300 locations nationwide. Branded creative across digital and mobile channels and organic social content that will also amplify posts from A. W. talent. So there you go big things happening fans can purchase a custom limited edition A. W. White Castle Luchador mask. At shop. Dot com and house of crave.com starting January 7th. It seems like it's a seems like the if they're going to make a big deal out of it the combo package needs to be a little better than just. Well that's the thing you could literally be a vegetarian and eat that combo and not really have violated your principles. They're so small but White Castle 40 years ago 50 years ago White Castle was great because that was the only thing open to eat between 10 o'clock at night and six next morning. And I remember Uncle Tommy used to bring home a sack of White Castles because they were in those days they were 19 cents a piece. My cousin Larry used to call them death burgers in a coffin. I admit that every once in a while. I'll say God damn it White Castle boy. And after I eat them and then I feel like I've consumed a wet sponge. And I think boy I used to be a lot younger but I never ate that stuff regularly and me fast food every day you can't. It'll fucking it'll wrench your guts out. And that's what it used to be open late and cheap and open on Christmas day and whatever. Now while back a few years ago they had good fish nuggets believe it or not like around Easter time. I don't know how that came up but they were also like $7 for an order while. Yeah the sliders are 69 cents or whatever they used to be. Well I'll tell you what those those arenas are certainly going to smell like rodeo barns. If this promotion is a success can you imagine 4000 people all together in the same building that have all just eaten White Castle. I've got to turn everybody's skin brown. I haven't seen a White Castle since I left Long Island. It was one on Sunrise Highway in Lindbrook and every like five 10 years or so you'd be like let me go get that it'll be late at night. And you'd regret it so badly but it would taste good in the moment. Tastes really good in the moment. It goes down better than it fucking comes back up but anyhow. Well good to know they got that going for them. I guess they did a TV show but before we get into that Brian is there anything happening in the Christmas season on the Arcadian Vanguard Network. Oh thank you very much a surprise spot here. 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I wish Billy Robinson had shown up and just stretched everybody. Brian did you like the way they opened this program was this abrupt or they're really trying to nab the viewer at the start to the point where you think that there was some kind of. Network difficulty and they just cut into the show but they started. The program as soon as they came up from black. They rang the bell Roderick Strong versus Moxley started and sock face started talking like a meth addict. It's Wednesday night and you know what that means to look at this match we get this other match is this match and. What the was it a jarringly abrupt to you or are you just used to these things now. When it comes to his commentary I'm kind of used to it I watch a lot of this stuff on mute because of him and Shivani specifically. But in terms of the match it was the most abrupt beginning to an episode of dynamite and it's interesting because. It was taped it wasn't alive from Manchester. They kept saying Manchester like every fan must know that's England. Some fans are probably like why do they keep talking about New Hampshire. Well now it depends on where you live some people might say why are they in Tennessee. But that's the other thing the fact that they did the abrupt open on the show that was already in the can as of a few hours earlier. They go back and forth between. For whatever reason they they Tony thinks OK we'll hook them this week so they won't go anywhere we'll jump right into it. And then the next week they will start with a three minute backstage thing and then have a billboard for. 26 different matches it's. It's all over the place but I. He just makes up the show format. Each week depending on his whim and I'm not talking about changing the matches or the interviews I'm talking about how they actually do the television program. And there's. So you jumped right into this thing and. Again I love Roderick Strong I think Moxley's worst wrestler in the world. But. The way that Roderick Strong has been presented. Why do you really care. It's it's a continental classic tournament match because Tony's stuck with that. He can't even have a regular. Single elimination tournament he has to have this screwy Japanese and in. Spired. Round Robin gold block blue block and you end up with all these matches that just go on and on. And it's just for another belt in a place of where everybody's got a belt so. I didn't want to watch Moxley this close to Christmas as I was zipping through it. I saw even in a tournament match where interference is barred because the plumbers in it. They've still got to fight in the back of the arena. And they've still got to be forever on the floor with no count out. They've still got to do stupid bumps that take forever to set up and require obvious cooperation. And it's a waste of Roddy's talent. Because he's still technically excellent and. Could be. At this point. Better used to get meaningful people over but. They go 20 minutes. And then. I don't know what the fuck with the finish. Roddy's going for Moxley's leg to put him back in the crab or the sharpshooter or whatever the fuck. Moxley kicks Roddy off he goes to the floor he slads back in and Moxley hits his DDT out of nowhere. And they both sell for a while and then Moxley covers to count. And then they both sell some more and Moxley picks him up and gives him a bigger double arm DDT. And covers him one two three. What the. He could have beat him with the DDT the first time. Why would they've got to slow everything down at the end and then do it in an anticlimactic fashion. I did. Did you understand that or were you. Caring I hate the layout of almost every single John Moxley match I watch. And that includes the finishes. Yeah I didn't. It wasn't a surprise who won. It was a surprise they went as long as they did. They matched it in an end until I watched 20 something minutes into the show. Yeah. I mean it went a long while. And then you know I don't know that's the thing in wrestling right now just the kind of fucking lame dick finish. Just a finish out of nowhere that isn't as exciting as the last one I saw or. You get choked out and you smile or whatever it is. The second DDT looked better than the first one if he'd done that the first time and covered him and beat him it would have been perfect. But instead he hit boom and then they sell and then he covers him and kicks out that he just picks him up does the same thing. Did you see the Moxley promo later in the show. In the back. No I saw he was talking that's why I didn't see it but what do you know what he said. You know it's just a similar thought I had when watching the Adam Page swerve Samoa Joe confrontation before MJF arrived just. There are people who think this guy is like the great talker. And his promo sucks. That was my only thought I was hoping you'd back it up because you're the expert and I'm you know the. Well I usually. That's why well you silly little it's a silly little. But it's why I don't watch him anymore because he just drones on slobbering and sniffing and saying the same shit the incomprehensible stuff nobody still understands. Why what he was trying to save the company from or save it for himself or save it from them or save who from what. And boy he had to make sure that they all bled to bring out the best in it what the fuck nobody knows. It was gibberish to everybody except him in his head. Speaking of gibberish in people's heads. Is this million dollars Brian that they keep putting up is that like the same million that they keep putting up because there's some people that win the million and then they're not involved in the next time the millions up and I'm just wondering. Do those people get paid off and bought out of their position or are they using a different million dollars or is it just a fucking duffel bag with a bunch of goddamn toilet paper shoved in it. Have they overexposed a million dollars to the point where he doesn't mean as much as he used to when you only saw him once every. Actually never really saw him there was never any million dollar match nine left 40 years ago we saw a million dollar matches. And now it's just nonstop this feud over bags of money. So six man tag for a million one million dollars. Kenny and the hardly boys against Chichichicha and take a shit and a boring again. Don't didn't they do this before I thought but Alexander had won some money at one point I think. It's the same fucking guys because these are the friends section. And they all want to work with each other because they do the same shit all the time. So they did what they always do and way too much of it. And it's especially obvious now and even Aubrey Ed later on in the girls match. I'd noticed this also she's not even trying to go through the motions of refereeing because when the girls just jump in without tagging or. Oh we got a spot coming up where it's two on one so she'll just stand with that quizzical look like she can't figure out how many times to pound her hoof on the ground when you say what's three plus three. So they just do all the shit that they normally do. And then about 1516 minutes in. They tagged Kenny in with a boring and remember. This is these people's dream confrontation. A guy that. To be charitable his better days are behind him versus a guy who. I don't know if he had better days at this point you got one's fucking nearly crippled the other ones asleep. And when Kenny and. Lazy boy. Get in the ring with each other all the partners just got out on the floor and just stood there and stared at it so they could have like. Oh the stage is theirs now they're going to do a solo. They can't even keep up the pretense of having a fucking match they don't know how. And then. Oh boring and Kenny they circle each other. They go head to head. They trash talk. And I swear to God then they stood there and traded forearms and made funny faces. 16 forearms a punch and a chop. Nobody took a bump. Then they started a back and forth deal where they. Evaded each other's moves and then. All four other guys just ran it at 100 miles an hour and everybody did shit to each other. And a referee stood there slack jawed and through the. And it went minutes more after that. And finally and. I haven't seen the recap yet Brian but is this what. Uncle Dave calls one of the. Creative innovative moves that. All these chuckle fucks are known for. Kenny gets to Chachia up for the one winged fairy. But then the book a ruse line up and Nikki. Runs and cheerleader vaults over Maddie. And grabs Chia to go down with him when Kenny gives him the super fairy. One two three. Again what is the difference in this and cheerleading when they. Everyone's while punch each other. I can't answer that I mean. My thought during this match seeing Omega seeing the Bucks. Oh Kata. It was almost like slamboree. For this group of guys. So they're all doing the same shit they used to do or at least. What they do is the same shit they used to do they can all do the same shit they used to do because. They won't do it like that. Yeah yeah they'll disappear off TV for a while. But you know. There's a fan base that really loved that and invested in it years ago. And they're still into it. They get overlooked and it's like Richard Simmons against Perry Como. They can overlook that but some of us can't. It hit me watching that. Oh Kata he's like the Perry Como of wrestling. He just just stands there and fuck it doesn't do anything. You know what to check and see whether he's submitting the referee out a hold of mirror up to his mouth. And they did a bunch of the Okada to cash to fuck it again they become mute. And they just shut his faces and no one could talk and also no one could do anything. And the crowd for a large part of the match sat there and didn't make a sound. They popped for like the greatest hit spots. The same way you would at Slambery if you know like one of the legends all but oh my god Dory fucks go for the toe hold. Because that's what it is that he's fans they're seeing like the greatest hits. But Omega looks rough I'm telling you I want to see him work a long singles match one time in the next year. Why? I gotta see it. Oh good lord well anyways back to this thing. So thanks for getting me going. Well you're welcome. Why you pissed me off earlier? So the baby faces have won the thing. Well Don's got the bag of a million dollars and he tries to sneak out. But the baby faces look like they're going to catch him but the heels jump the baby faces. Well Kenny rolled out. I guess he can't take any big moves. But oh boring and take a shit took turns laying out the buckaroos with their various big moves and then argued with each other. Until Kenny came in with a push broom. And scared him off and Don forgot to take the money. They left them he left the money. The bag. Sitting there so. Brian if you've got a million dollars that you don't want to give up are you going to forget even though nobody's touched you to you're just going to run off and leave it or you're going to take it with you. Yeah but thank you take it with you. Yeah. Well he didn't. So the baby faces got the bag of a million dollars we didn't see any of it. But they got the bag. How does that work for taxation. Because this transaction is happening in Manchester not in the United States. How are they going to bring back that. How does that work. That's an idea. Did they get like pounds. And they're going to have to convert it. What's the conversion rate. Did they get jacked on that. And I think there's a fee. Yeah. This it's just so ridiculous that they can't even take their own program seriously and that Tony is stuck. Tournament match put up money multiple man match. And I don't know he's going to get any get out of this because his his booking for years has been bizarre but now this is it's just stuck. Anyway, it's the talent though he's stuck with the talent he has. So we haven't seen any signs of it. Just because he doesn't have any stars doesn't mean he has to put a million dollars up in a match every week. Well that's true. That's true. Two goofy fucking EVPs have some ridiculous story that they think people give a shit about that involves a million dollars because they lost all their money because they went to Vegas and Nick is obviously such a fucking horrible gambler. What the. Oh, stupid. So then we had the contract signing because Brian. They got a pay per view in about 10 days or so from this television show. And the world title is going to be on the line and Tony has come up with the revolutionary idea where they're going to have a contract signing for a three way for the world title. Nobody's ever seen such a thing it's been years so naturally this going to be a big deal. Hang nail page swerve and Samoa Joe. And again the same pattern. Well now in these two are they going to be able to get along with the other guys the healing blah blah blah the same fucking thing. Joe did a nice little promo sand contract. Swerve did OK little promo sand contract basically saying we both hate Joe, but we've got a grudging weird respect for each other you and me page after the blood drinking and the baby terrorizing in the house burning. And swerve showed that he's somewhat of a mark because. And actually it showed that the tiny little audience that. A. W. has left now and how that the only the most devoted are going because he hit Joe with a. A knock or insult line on the fake tattoo that he had on his face and TNA in 2007 he didn't say TNA just said that fake tattoo you had in 2007 and the people popped. Think how narrow casting they're going to appeal to the well I guess there was more people watching TNA in 2007 watching this show now. More people in England like to the more than people in America at different times. That's true. Yeah. But nevertheless at 20 years ago in another promotion. And he expects and was rewarded with the fact that these are the. This is so so devoted marks that they will react to that obscure a line they don't. Get their own show over. Because they're all marks for they think that everybody remembers everything that happened everywhere in. Glee and stardom and whatever the fuck. And that's another it's the ring of honor syndrome when all those guys couldn't get over the fact that. The wider audience had no idea what they were fucking talking about. But at least swerve didn't go too long. And then page started. And I didn't think this ever was going to end. He did a whole promo on Joe. And then I saw Jesus now he's talking to swerve and it's this. Again he's got his own special style of this unnatural stilted way of speaking in the growly voice with the grandiose verbiage. That's obviously a prepared statement and he's acting he's not that person we all know he's a simpering twit. And this went on quite a while and then finally he signed the contract. I'm like Jesus Christ at least that's over before I go any further on what happened next. It was a too hard on Adam Page's filibuster. Maybe just in the sense that I think you were too light on swerve and Samoa Joe. I thought everyone sucked here. I didn't believe a word at it. Anyone's mouth here. I thought everyone came up with a speech they were happy with. Samoa Joe is a little more polished at not just standing there and reciting something like he's in Macbeth. But I didn't buy anything from any of these people and swerve just on gibberish. I don't even know what swerve's talking about half the time. It's about like just a greater thing that I just don't get. I don't know what he's talking about. And Adam Page is ridiculous. I was given the first two more credit for just going short and helping the situation out. But nevertheless, then the lights went out. I'm sorry. The lights went out and talk about the theater. MJF music and a big pop. And again, the devil is back and they're chanting his name and humming his song. They're literally going, da-da-dat, da-da-dat, da-da-dat. They sang his instrumental. They're starved for the sight of, as Flair used to say, starved for the sight of a real man. They're starved for the sight of a star and he's back and it's a moment and they were ready for it. But again, the most popular guy in the company by virtue of the fact that he's the most talented guy in the company, the biggest heel is the baby face. And he comes out, signs the contract, cash is in. It's a four-way match now. And I wrote down, this is over 10 minutes in for this segment and MJF has just started talking. Can I say something? So here we go. Go ahead. I actually thought for a second, just a second because I quickly showed what they were going to do. When MJF came in, signed the contract, Shivani announced that he's cashing in. The crowd really reacted. I thought to myself, he should leave right now and not say anything. Get out. Yeah. Get out. Yeah. No. Here's the thing. MJF proceeds for the next almost 10 minutes to give as he often does a virtuoso verbal performance. Delivery great inflection great. He didn't go too heavy on trashing the town and the people because he couldn't because they're fucking kissing his ass. His material is wonderful. But the way that they have presented this whole thing. These other three guys have to stand there and listen to this guy just verbally dissect them. Tear them apart. None of the three of them have the verbal ability to come back in any way, shape or form. And they just got to take it. And his reason for getting a four way, he said, well, I could have just beat one of you or whatever, but he wants to prove that he's not a coward. And that he wants to beat Samoa Joe because he hates Joe because when he beat me, then the fans turned on me. So I'm going to end his reign. And swerve who he compared to Diddy. We've known each other since the endies. I knew you since you you went to the WWE and twerked for top dollar. Again, again for the inside fans, but that's where I stood. He no sold it in a sense, but he just stood there while he's saying this and the crowd's oohing at it. And then the whole thing with Paige. But again, a masterful job of tearing these guys down, but they have to stand there and listen to it forever. And before he even started, they had to stand there and listen to the other three forever. Because the rule was nobody was allowed to get physical. He didn't fucking wise anybody ever allowed to get physical when they're not supposed to. There's no universal logic in this whole goddamn show. It's like just whatever the fuck. So it's not swerves house. It's MJF's house and the rent is due and the devil's back to collect. And he ended it with his catchphrase and the fans did the last line. And we had a 20 minute segment. We got a four way for the world title and my God does an MJF have to beat it or have to win it. So Joe just won, but that was temporary. But in Tony's mind. This means that the people will be clamoring to see MJF against Paige and MJF against swerve. Because they didn't see those single matches yet. He's giving them a four way. He does it backwards. He gives them a four way that he's going to book singles matches. And his heel is more popular than both his baby faces. Help me out Brian. I can't help you out. Just like I can't help Tony out. No. You know, that's the dilemma. I thought MJF's promo was the highlight of the show. I also thought it was ill timed. And I should I thought he should have gotten as soon as he came in there looking a little different, different haircut. I haven't seen him in a while. Big reaction. And you had to assume he would get a big reaction returning. Haven't signed that contract. Announced it's a four way. Get out of there. Save the promo till next week. Is there a next week? Is that Christmas? But whatever. Save the promo. Well, it's Christmas Eve. So I mean, I guess now that I think about it, I guess they did kind of have to rush all this in for the pay per view that's coming up. Imagine what? What about what about since you write the fucking show and it's all made up back everything up a week? So you'd have more time. But he dressed down the three of them. And I agreed with just about everything he said. Samoa Joe always got in his face. That was a different kind of thing. But what's holding them back? Not hooking hobs. They were just standing there. What's holding them back? What's their agreement? They don't have any agreement. They're not part of the match. No, that's they. They covered that. They said, if anybody gets physical, well, you won't be able to be in the match, boys. And then OK, then it's like with the tournament, the idiot set up where there can be no interference. Then you've established that the promotion can control it. So the next time the heel does something, it's not his fault. It's the promotions for not controlling it because they can when they want to. The logic can't just be changed from week to week and segment to segment to fit your goddamn needs. That's the definition of lazy booking. The person who held the microphone and was hosting the segment was Tony Shavani until Samoa Joe stole it from him. We've seen him beat up and attacked. The person who made the edict was Tony Kahn. We've seen him beat up and attacked. Why don't they just make it? Don't beat me up and attack situations. But to your point, there's no consistency from one segment to the next with AEW from one match to the next or from week to week. It's just whatever he thinks he wants in the moment. And that's why we get what we get, which is all over the page. I mean, you could probably try to start thinking before the show goes on. I wonder how many times that they'll fight in the crowd or how many times somebody will dive off the top rope. If they would cover things like this with our friends at Prize Picks, we could probably make some money because we just say all the time. And with AEW, we'd be right. But you can pick other things with Prize Picks. They make picks or pick picks on the basketball and the football. Old Steph Curry. Patrick Mahoney. I heard Patrick Mahoney hurt himself. Mahomes, not Mahoney. He's gone homes. Yeah, he's gone straight home. His name is Patrick Mahoney. He hurt himself. Well, his name is Mud right now. But again, folks, with basketball back, you can put Steph Curry in the same lineup with all the other people who do these type of things. You can make picks on Fantasy Score, Free Throws Made, Field Golds Attempted, Turnovers. You can make picks on Turnovers. I like Apple Turnovers myself, but any are good. And there's a new feature alert. Prize Picks now has early payouts, Brian. Something about this sounds shady to me. If your lineup gets off to a hot start, you may not have, you may now have the option to cash out the winnings before the game finishes. And then, well, if there's a miracle come back, I guess if you've got the money, they're going to be chasing you. So you better move out of state. That's not how it works. And again, there's nothing shady about anything here. If you are into your daily fantasy, want to play your sports, Prize Picks is there for you. Well, I'm into my daily fantasy, but the sports just gets in the way of me seeing those naked women. Is your fantasy season already over, folks? Is your team cooked? With Prize Picks, you don't have to wait until next year's draft. They let you play fantasy football every week. Now, if you're in your backyard, be aware a lot of your neighbors are going to wonder what the fuck you're doing. There's no football. There's no football uniform. There's no other people playing with you. You're just throwing a ball and catching it yourself and having a fantasy. So they could call somebody on you. It gets you hauled out of the backyard and putting some kind of long sleeve sport coat until they figure out that you're just having a daily fantasy football game. Not appropriate or correct. As an example, ladies and gentlemen, we're talking about those of you who are just fine as no problems or maybe just minimal problems, problems every now and then. If you have minimal mental problems, you can still download the Prize Picks app. It's only if you have extensive mental problems. I don't know why we're putting any of these qualifiers on. Well, because if you're just a little fucking goofy, go ahead and download the Prize Picks app. It's simple to play. Just pick more or less on at least two player stats. If you get your picks right, you can cash in and you want to pick more on points, three pointers, assists, you can pick them all. Just pick everything because Prize Picks puts their users first right out in front where you're in the line of fire and then they'll hide and watch and see what happens. They accept most. Not how it works, ladies and gentlemen. They don't accept most major payment methods. I thought they did. I forgot what I'm correcting. I'm correcting something that was there a second ago and it's probably still there. Go back a second and that is wrong. Continue Jim. Well, download the Prize Picks app today and use the code JCE. You're going to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup. That is the code JCE on the Prize Picks app to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup. You show them yours and then they'll show you theirs and theirs is 10 times bigger. Prize Picks, it's good to be right. Yes, Prize Picks. Yes. Yes. I have nothing else to say because this is not the one where I read all that shit. Well, we will now go back to the Wednesday Night Spectacular known as Dynamite. Speaking of watching all that shit, did you watch the eight man tag with Tony Storm and Mina Mellons and Willow and Harley against Mercedes, Moan and Megan Brain and Athena and Marina Schaefer? It would be a eight woman tag, not eight man tag. Oh, did you watch it? I saw the entrances. I saw the entrances and I tried to watch a little bit of it, but. But you didn't really watch it? Good. Did you watch it? Hold on. Did you watch it? No. So what are you ripping? It's the sanity clause. See, with the party, the first part, let's take that out. Then the party, the second part, nah, we don't want that party either. Now we're just left with the sanity clause. So there was a tournament match, Brian, with Cal Feltcher against Pack. So now we've got, I'm thinking it's a heel versus heel match for no good reason except this screwy tournament, but at least maybe they can relieve some of the damage they did when Hong Kong Fui beat Cal the other night. They, Cal can get a win back over the this muscular fellow and try to redeem himself somewhat. That's what I'm thinking is going to happen. So. That's what everyone had to be thinking would happen quite frankly. Well, because that's what should have fucking happened. But they again, they go, I don't know how long they went. And finally, Kyle is going to give Pack the brainbuster on the top turnbuckle like that's ever a good idea. I saw they had quotes from Cal did some kind of interview somewhere said, well, they had a call him and fat ass Davis as a tag team had a call with the WWE. But he went with a w because he felt like he could do more of what his vision of wrestling is there. And that's the problem. And by the way, the dumb shit wasn't self aware or confident enough to realize that he shouldn't be talking to the WWE as a tag team with this old fat guy. He should have been saying, can you get me into NXT so I can learn to be a multimillionaire. But nevertheless, Cal went for the brainbuster on the top turnbuckle but pack blocked it. And they gingerly got into position as time stood still where Cal is holding on bent over and allows pack to climb on his back piggyback while they're standing on the turnbuckles. So that pack can then give him a reverse hurricanrana off the top rope. And when they take the bump. Does pack cover the guy. No, he jumps up and goes to the opposite turnbuckle on the other side of the ring. While Cal Feltcher is literally scooting himself on his ass into the proper position for pack to come off the other top turnbuckle. And he took forever to get up there and get his balance and then did a flippy turny splash. One, two, three. They beat him again. And in the fakest finish that is possible. It's like they don't comprehend Cal laying there. He thinks that there's 10,000 people in this building and they're not going to notice him plainly and obviously scooching himself over to the ropes so that this other knit with who's just given him a devastating finish off the top rope. Can do another one. He was going to win anyway. He gave him a hurricanrana off the top rope on his fucking head. But the dead body has to reanimate itself to slide over there where he can jump on him again. Did you even care by that point or did you see this abomination? I saw the finish. I saw some of the match. I saw the intro where Pac sets up a chair and sits with his back to the ring while Garcia and you two chew bubblegum and whisper jokes to each other. I don't know what's happening back there. Very dramatic. And I don't think anyone thought he would win, but it's the continental classic. Everyone's got to lose. That's the problem. And this is if we had quarter hours, I put money on this being where the majority of the audience gave up for the rest of the night. The tipping point. Boy, we missed the quarters. Yeah. I bet you would be here though. Well, because next was the dynamite diamond ring battle royal that they do annually, which ran over into collision because we're already at 10 o'clock at night, but they had a special collision from 10 to 11. And the battle royal was Ricochet, his two stooges, fat ass Davis, Bandito, Alexander Shelton, Dino Bowens. Some other ideas, a job guide and wrecked. I don't know who the fuck. This has been MJF's thing. Since the very first year. It correct me if I'm wrong. But didn't they always have it where you enter the battle royal and win the ring and then the previous winner defends against the God. MJF's been in the deal all five years in a row. And suddenly, and he still uses the ring in the finishes of his matches. But now they do the dynamite diamond ring battle royal thing. He's not in it. He's not talked about. He's not mentioned. Nobody ever said, well, he's decided to give up the defense of this. Does this make sense, Brian? No. Okay. So again, I don't watch a lot of this with the sound. I'm not anymore because I hate the commentary and I'm not alone. So I don't know what they said, but that's the thing. They didn't say anything about MJF. He was, he was a non entity in this situation, which the dynamite diamond ring. That's his gimmick. But they just had another one and now Bandito and Ricochet are the last two guys. So that means they come back next week and wrestle for the ring. Does MJF have to give the ring up or are they getting a new ring? If MJF didn't have to give the ring up, then why has he been doing winning the same ring for the last five fucking years? Okay. Then we had a tournament match again. I swear to God, they had this on national television. Pockets against mascara Dorito. 13 minutes of national television time. Cause now they're into collision. And as you mentioned, we hit our tipping point and it's free falling. I'm free. Free falling. Somebody told me that the key I sing in Brian is skeleton. That's pretty good. Except, except your key doesn't fit into anything. So I don't know about that. Well, I got the key that can open many doors. I got a brand new pair of skates. You got a brand new key. I wish we could get together and try them on to see. You sound like rusty roller skates. Well, Melanie had a hard life. So speaking of Melanie, she should have been in this next match. Instead of who was in it, Jamie Hader and Isla Dawn. And after a shot, I realized that's who it was because I just started fast forwarding. That was Isla Dawn from WWE. Apparently that's what they called her. She was teamed with what? Alba fire, right? That's right. Fire and Dawn. Alba and Isla. That famous combination of fire and Dawn. So this was another 10 minutes and Jamie won and then three of the heels jumped her. And kicked the shit out of her, but Statenlander came in and made a big save and beat all the heels up. But Jamie Hader in an awkward spot that they had to stutter steps set up. Accidentally closed line Statenlander by accident, but then wasn't upset about it. And while the heel, the heels that had attacked her ran off. Jamie Hader picked up the belt that Statenlander had run in the ring with and dropped it on her because fuck her. She just saved me. So I don't care. It all makes sense to them. Any comments before we go to the main event, Brian? Oh, it's all been a main event so far, Jim. I don't think anyone can dismiss these amazing matches. Well, let's dismiss this one for the World Tag Team title. FTR defended against Juice Robinson and Austin Gunn. And again, I love juice. I like the guns as a team because they're brothers. They worked hard. They fucking tried hard. I love juice because he's different and he can work and he can talk and he's got a gimmick. He's not just some interchangeable douchey indie dipshit like most of the rest of these guys. But again, FTR tried to do every tag team spot ever. I saw some Southern Boys Midnight Express from the 1990 Baltimore Bash. I saw variations of different tag team spots and swerves and maneuvers. And it went past 11 o'clock into their runover of their runover. How did you use Robinson and Austin Gunn get a World Tag Team title match? Have we ever seen them team up on this program before? I don't think so. I think I saw them get together, but that may have been a pay-per-view. They're part of the overall gang bang gang that they've had going on or whatever. But now that each of their gang bang friends is gone, they got together to have their own little gang. Gang bang. It's a mini bang. That's going to be the worst thing ever when J. White finally fucking returns and we have to hear that. I'm a bang bang gang bang bang. Just those fucking awful promos. Now I really hate everyone. But no, think about this. If J. White comes back and they smarten up and they tell him just shut up and just be Juice's partner and Juice runs the team and Juice does the promos, they could have a rematch with FTR. And I'd watch that because that was the best match that they've ever had in AEW. And it's been a couple years. They might want to do it again. But FTR versus Juice and Austin Gunn passed 11 o'clock when they're going 100 miles an hour doing every false finish and every fucking spot known to man. They didn't lose the belt. So let's put it that way. That's what happened. And that's where we are. Well, those were the ratings. AEW. No, they weren't. And again, you know, I know a lot of people are saying, gosh, we missed the quarter hours. We missed the ratings. The quarter hours don't come at all anymore. The ratings come late. But AEW is on Wednesday nights is firmly in the high 400s to mid 500s, 1000 people. That's where they're sitting right now after the. The manner of the method methodology change and. And what's the show on Saturday, goddamn collision. Is it 200 and something thousand. And all of the WWE programs are down for the WWE programs and they still dwarf. Everything everybody else is doing. So. Merry Christmas. Well, this is your show. I don't know if that was the. Oh, that's right. Then that means we get to leave anytime I say. Well, technically, I guess that's true. Yes. Well, in that case, folks, again, this is the last experience before Christmas. We're taking a little break. We'll be back with the drive through that'll be live and first run and all that good stuff in a few days. And then we have the omnibus and various things that will tickle people's fancies and. And actually next week's experience will be a new experience. It may not be the latest wrestling news, but it's a brand new episode. No one's heard. I was going to do that. See, you were I was saving the best for last. We're going to have some omnibus. We have some special things to tickle the people's. Funny bones and also we will have a wrestling history. Heavy episode of the gym, corn at experience next week for just fine, relaxing holiday listening. Since it doesn't have to be evergreen news bulletin. That's where I was going with that. And of course, major shit will happen. I'll be back with breaking news updates on YouTube. Oh, stop it. No, I don't want anybody to break any news until after January 1st so that we can take our time fixing it. Anyway, but otherwise that thanks everybody for a great year. The support and the listenership. We appreciate everybody's. Love and love is in the air and and we will hopefully deserve this in 2026 since you've given it to us already will do something next year to earn it. Until then for Brian. I am Jim. Merry Christmas. Happy New Year. Happy Hanukkah. Happy Festivus. And everything that everybody does for the rest of us. Thank you. Fuck you and bye bye everybody. The experience. Yeah, the experience of Jim Cognac. Of Jim Cognac. Of Jim Cognac.