1433 - Jess and James Recently Started Hotwifing

Inspired by jet engine silences, the Dyson Hushjet Purify powerfully purifies the entire room, quietly. Capturing pollen, allergens and pet dander, removing odours and harmful gases such as NO2, day and night. Hushjet, powerful, compact purification, that's quiet. Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous Podcast. Strictly Anonymous Podcast. Conversations with online strangers. Replace ads online. Craigslist is definitely the gift that keeps on going. Real people respond. You go to Singapore or Thailand, you can't not do it. The temptation is just too much. Real problems. Does your friend know that you're banging her? No, he has no idea. And anything goes. The motto of the show, let your grief black lie. The only good advice I'll ever give you is to re-hide your whips and chain. Here is your host, Kathy. Hey, welcome to the Strictly Anonymous Podcast with Kathy. You haven't followed the Strictly Anonymous Podcast yet on Instagram or Twitter. And you want to follow me? Follow me at Strict Anonymous. If you want to be on the show, it's called Strictly Anonymous because I change everybody's voices and everyone's name. So, if you have an interesting naughty secret life or even just regular, not so naughty life that you want to talk about, while remaining anonymous or not anonymous, if you're out and proud, that's cool too, you can be on the show. I also look for like health related stories now. I have a sexual health Saturdays. So, if you have any kind of interesting health story, I love stuff like that health and fitness story. You could send me an email at StrictlyAnonymousPodcast at gmail.com or just go to my website, StrictlyAnonymousPodcast.com and click on be on the show. If you have a naughty confession that you want to leave on my Confessions Hotline, you could do that 24-7, the number's 347-420-3579. That's 347-420-3579. Some of those confessions make it onto a Confessions episode and I talk about them. The rest of them all go up on my Patreon. My Patreon is a great place. Listen, if you're annoyed with these beginning intros and you don't want to hear f-ing ads and you want to see hot picks of all the females who have called into my show, plus take part in all of the polls and questions and contests we have over on my Patreon, join my Patreon for just $7 a month. That's like super cheap. I also throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord. My Discord is great. We're having the annual Dick Pick Contest coming up. So, you want to join so you can take part in the infamous Dick Pick Contest. Last year, we did the Dick Pick Contest. We got like 250 Dick Picks. Okay, winner is going to get 300 bucks. Okay, so if you want to join that, you got to get into my Discord. I do throw in complimentary access to my private Discord if you join my Patreon. Like I said, it's just $7 a month and you can cancel it anytime or you could buy my book. I have a book. It's called Strictly Non-Missed Confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. It's like 17 stories from my show told in the third person. They're quick, short stories. Think like Penthouse Forum letters or naughty true stories all in one book. It's available in e-bag format, paperback format. And finally, the audiobook is available coming out August 25th, but you could pre-order it now. And if you buy my book in any format or pre-order it, send me a screenshot of your order. And I'll also give you complimentary access to my private Discord. My Discord is f-ing great. That's where you could go in and post your own stuff. My Discord is super fun. People get very naughty on there. We have lots of contests, tons of different channels with all kinds of content. But it is private and I only give links to either my guests if you call into the show. You get a link to my Discord or get my book or join my Patreon. You get it from all that. Last thing I want to tell you about is if you are looking to get into the lifestyle, the site I recommend to everybody is SDC.com. SDC.com is like the world's largest online adult dating site, but it's so much more than a dating site. It's more than a pickup place, okay? You go on there, you're going to learn everything about the lifestyle. They have live events. They have educational stuff that you could learn on there. They also will tell you where all the gangbangs and swinger clubs and orgies and parties that are going on in your area and your neighborhood. Or if you're traveling, you can find out what's going on there too. That's what's great about SDC. It's like a one-stop shop for the lifestyle. And if you use my code 37712, you're going to get a free trial so you could check it out. So go to SDC.com, use code 37712, or just go to the description and click on the link. All the links, everything I told you about including my Patreon is in the description. So anyway, today I have on James and Jess, they are super fun. Oh my God, there are a couple times with James and I'm just like, what the fuck? He's so funny. There's a couple things that I was like, oh, I can't believe it. I bet it's a fun conversation. James has this wife, Jess, who I'm like, oh my God, she's so much nicer than me. She's married, they've been together for a very long time. And you know, he was always of a super jealous, like Latin guy, very possessive of her and stuff. But eventually he started, like a lot of guys, like kind of getting into watching videos online of like guys, wives with other guys, and he started getting into that king, which was even surprising for him, right? Because he's like a super jealous guy. And then he eventually, and he tells the whole long-winded story. I'm just telling you the short version. He eventually tells her, she eventually decides to be okay with it and try it out and they wind up doing it. She's definitely into black guys. They explain why she calls herself like a queen of spades hot wife. Now she has had a bunch of experiences and they go through the first one and then the second one and they talk about all their rules that they had. That's where I go off on James. Wait till you hear one of his rules he had for her and how nice she was about it. And they talk about how it has affected the relationship and how things have changed. They eventually did start on only fans and an Instagram. I will put the name of it and they give a shout out to it at the end. But the whole, their whole story of how they went from being like a vanilla couple and they had actually, I forgot about this. In the beginning after they had kids, they did like have issues with just really not being into sex. And she eventually went on testosterone therapy and she talks about that as well. And that's super interesting too. So anyway, their whole story is interesting. They're a fun couple to talk to. They both called in together. I have hot pics of Jess over on my Patreon. You could sign up there to see pics of her and all my other guests. But anyway, I'm going to get right to and be right back on with James and Jess. Hi, James and Jess. You guys are both sitting in a car ready to talk to me that I can't tell you how many people are doing that. I always make jokes that people are either cheating adults. The only things they do in their cars drive to their destination, cheat with a partner or they're calling into my show. This is what adults are doing in their car. So many couples are calling me from the car. It's so funny. So is your James and Jess, Jess is a hot wife, queen of spades hot wife. Okay, whatever I put that in a title, people go crazy for it. I don't know the whole interracial thing is really a big, you know, but anyway, I have you both on the call, right? Jess, the claims to say, seems to think she's a bad storyteller, but we'll see. Okay, Jess, we definitely want to hear from you. Okay, so make sure to chime in and talk. But like, where do you guys want to start? First of all, tell me first, you guys, like, how long you've been married and how long you guys been together and around? How old are you? Okay, so we're in our mid 40s, 40s. And she's slightly a little bit older than I am. You like the other men? I don't know that that's what she pursued me. I would say. Oh, I like it. So Jess is not a good storyteller, but she's aggressive. We have for you. We've been married for 22 years. Okay. And so before you guys got into this, what was your, like, you know, life in the bedroom like? So, so our, so our bedroom, like it's, how can I say it started off spicy. When we first, when we first met, we were having sex everywhere. Like it was just, you know, by the, by the lake in a car. Yeah, yeah, yeah. In the car during the day, you know, in front of my parents' house, you know, crazy. You just couldn't keep your hands off each other. I feel like that's how it should be in the beginning, right? Right, right. And then kids, you know, the whole kids thing. Oh, I know. Yeah. And then for many years, I would say it was just, we were kind of just going through the motions, you know, Yeah. How many kids did you have? It was so good. Yeah. I mean, it wouldn't bad. Sex was good, but it wasn't great. I would say it wasn't the way it is now, but it's just like amazing. Right. But so, and I used to be a super jealous person. Right. The typical story is I was a super jealous guy. Like if anyone even augulled your girl, would you get pissed off? Oh yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, girl, you know, she's a Latina with a big old booty, you know, she's, you know, guys are checking her out. Exactly. And I was young and dumb, you know, full of testosterone, you know, that. Yeah. And you're Latina too. You're a Latin too. Me? Yes. Because so it's your culture. Don't you think a little bit? Exactly. To be very possessive and jealous. And hot. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Possessive for sure. Yeah. I saw her more as like a possession. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. I hate to, yeah, it's a bad thing, but, and I guess the older that I got, you know, I've just started realizing certain things and just did, you know, stuff like that's just nonsense, you know. Yeah. But yeah. So yeah, I was super jealous. But in a way, you know, cause I would question her about, you know, her, you know, boyfriends that she had had, you know, and I know that in my head, it was like turning me on, you know, like I'm saying, the typical story that you hear on all your shows, it would turn me on. Were you even surprised by that? I was. I was very, I was like, what the hell is going on? Yeah, I can imagine. I just kept it to myself, right? Uh-huh. Yes. And, and so it just went on that way. And we got to a point where I noticed that we were having sex, but it was mainly for me. I could feel like she was, she was just doing it for me. She wasn't trying to get off. And I was good at first. And then I was, and then later I was like, no, I don't. I don't like this. I want her to get off. Like that's my whole thing is, you know, I think most guys are like that. That's what I say all the time. And I think it's very true. People tend to think guys are super, like super selfish in bed, but typically I think a man really want to please a woman. It gets their, it feeds their ego, right? For sure. Yeah. And so, so then, so she would tell me, you know, that she had very low energy, you know, just didn't, she's like, I want to have sex with you, but I just don't feel the drive. And, you know, I had, I think I had listened to your podcast and then other podcasts as well. And, you know, they were talking about getting women on testosterone and, and I, I take, you know, you're going to frown on this. You're going to frown on this big time. Oh no. But well, I don't know that we started this way. But anyway, I, I did have her go to the doctor and the doctor's a buddy of mine. And we kind of, you know, told him the whole thing and he agreed, you know, to get her on test. And so, so I started and she was okay with it. I was super nervous about that. Like even bringing that up to her because I thought she was going to shoot it down and she was going to be like, no, no, no, you know, But she was open to it. Jess, you were like, you were down. You wanted to get your sex drive back. Yes. Yes. Because I mean, like you said, it was super hot at the beginning. And then of course, you know, I became a mom and we had kids and, and I still wanted to please him because I've always been the type of person that's like, you know, they say, happy wife, happy life. You know, it's happy husband, happy wife, happy life. Everyone needs to be happy. Yeah. Yes. You keep him happy and he's going to, you know, do everything to make you happy. Totally. And so I always try to make him happy at home. And it was just hard because I didn't have the energy. I didn't have the drive, but I wanted to please him. And all that is testosterone, especially because you're saying energy too. You know, that's all testosterone. Yeah. So as soon as I mentioned it to the doctor, I said, I don't really have a sex drive. I said, and I'm just tired. And he said, you're the one testosterone. And I said, you know what? That's what my husband said. I made you blood work and sure enough, he put me on testosterone and, and it was great. It was great immediately. It was great. How did you take your testosterone? Was it a cream? Was it a? No, it was a cream. Like in between the thighs. Uh huh. And I was on that for a couple of years. And after a while, I started kind of not working as good. And so I went back and he said, you know what? We need to do like an injection. Yeah. And he said, it'll be very minimal. And I was just afraid of the side effects, you know? And so at first he had me on quite a bit. So I was having the side effect. So what were the side effects? Well, the breakouts and the just. Oh yeah, that's how you know. I want you to hear, you know, certain things like that. Yep. And we we backed off a little bit. And so finally, I think I'm at the point where I'm good now because I don't have the breakouts anymore and, you know, everything else. You gotta dial in. Yes. And so, I mean, I take very little, but we were taking it twice a week. But what was I going to hate you for? You haven't told me yet. Did you just start dipping into her injections or something? Well, I forgot that we did go to the doctor and all that. But there was a there was that a point where I think she stopped the cream and she used a little bit of my. Oh my God. Maybe that's why she was breaking out. Listen, Kathy, I know I know you frown on that, but listen, it's the exact same thing. Mine's mine's prescribed as well. And it's sustained bottle. You know, you just give her. No, but I know, but is when you look at the formula, sometimes it's like five milligrams of this amount. I can't explain it, but it's okay. You're past that now. She's being dosed by the doctors. Right. We could excrete it. Okay. So then I could mention it to the doctor and he said, if you want to try a little bit of your husband's like a little one, he can. Oh, stop. I can't even handle doctors that say shit like that. Yeah. And so I said, okay, we'll try it and we tried it and show it up and it works. Okay. No, I cannot promote anyone using medication. No, I'm for fear. Yeah, definitely. But I can promote. But yeah, no, no, I can promote testosterone for women. It does work and it was a game changer for you. Right. Yes. Yeah. It saves women's lives. It's really great. And men too. It saves marriages. Yeah. I feel like for sure. For sure. Okay. So now you're on testosterone, you're back to being horny. Yes. Yeah. So then our sex just, you know, was back to normal again. Well, above normal. It was, she was wanting to, in the mornings and at night, every morning and every night. That's, and it was great. Yeah. And so I would still, so I would still watch porn every now and then, you know, because obviously we're parents and sometimes one parent is angry. You know, it's not always. What? It's not always. You still watch porn separately. I mean, I think it's more normal. Yeah. Well, you know, and at the time she was still a little bit against it. It was against it because I felt like I should be the one turning you on and I should be the one. Oh my God, that has nothing. It doesn't mean that he's not turned on. No, absolutely not. Oh, my mentality is completely different. I was, I'm super uptight. So how I got here, it's on him. Right. But I was super uptight, super shy, you know, and so this kind of brought me out of my shell, I guess, you know. All right, guys, you want to feel both fully on and ready, both mentally and physically in the bedroom, well, then you need to check out Blue Chew Gold. Listen, Blue Chew has been on a mission to help guys build their confidence and help them actually perform in the bedroom. And their new arousal boosting formula, Blue Chew Gold, is helping millions of men have better sex while most ED medications only focus on blood flow. Blue Chew Gold goes further by combining two ingredients for blood flow and two ingredients for mental arousal and connections. So you're not just physically ready. You're actually going to be in the mood because listen, getting hard is not the same thing as getting aroused. So guys, don't let your mind get in the way of a good time. Discover your options at BlueChew.com. And I've got a special deal for my listeners right now. When you buy two months of Blue Chew Gold, you get the third for free with promo code StrictlyAnon. That's promo code StrictlyAnon. Visit BlueChew.com for more details and important safety information. And I thank Blue Chew for sponsoring the podcast. Welcome to Paris Peace City. Here, your blind date is already at the table and there she is. Cousin Brenda, what are you doing here? You're married anyway. Substitution brought to you by Paddy Power. Cousin Brenda makes way for Beth, the office crush. Oh, get in. You might not always pick the right starter, but your sub can still deliver. Because with Paddy's Super Sub, your bet rolls over to the player coming on. Paddy Power. Validant, selected leagues and markets only. Pre-match and in-play bets on qualifying player outcome selections only. T-sensees and exclusions apply. 18 plus scum-alware.org. You know, it's not always... How does she still watch porn separately? I mean, I think it's more normal. Yeah. Well, you know, and at the time she was still a little bit against it. He was actually against it because I felt like I should be the one turning you on. And I should be the one... Oh, my God, that has nothing. It doesn't mean it doesn't mean that he's not turned on. No, absolutely not. Oh, my mentality is completely different. I was I'm super uptight. So how I got here, it's on him. Right. But I was super uptight, super shy, you know. And so this kind of brought me out of my show, I guess, you know. Anyway, yeah. Yeah. So so then I ran across some porn where a guy was recording his wife getting fucked. I can say fucked, right? Yes, you can. And and I thought, wow, what a weirdo, you know, I was. You know, it wasn't what I was thinking, like, what a stamp, you know what I mean? I had that mentality, right? Totally. And yeah. And and then I just found myself that I just kept watching it. And I'm like, why am I still watching it? And then eventually it was like, oh, this is kind of hot. It's kind of hot if you like said everything aside. And I'm like, you know, and the girl was super into it. It was a black guy that was fucking her. But it's and that's not the whole thing about it, right? It's just what they were doing. And I thought, well, it's super naughty and it's and it is kind of hot. And I got to a point where I would I was going to that video, but I would imagine my wife in that scenario. I was imagining my wife all the time. I didn't care whatever girl that was. I was imagining my wife in that situation and it just. Progressed, I guess, into a thing where I was like, I want this to happen. I need this to be my wife. And we went for a while, you know, just doing our wild stuff because once you got on testosterone once again, you know, we were fucking outside of the truck, you know, on the side of the road. Crazy stuff. You're having fun again. Like it revived it revived your sex life. That's how it should be married. She travels a lot for work and I go with him. And that's actually what we're doing now. We're on we're traveling. That's what we're in the vehicle. Have an interview. Uh-huh. And so that's why he's saying like in the vehicle and outside the vehicle. I mean, we would pull over everywhere just, you know, right? Yeah, because at home, you know, we've got the kids. So yeah, there's only so much you can do at home. Right. But yeah, this is like our time away where we can do all our crazy stuff. So do you do you wind up copying to her that this is like what you're secretly watching and into eventually, I would assume. Not not really. Not really. What I did do is one night we were traveling and, you know, it was late and I was like two in the morning and, you know, you start talking about, you know, naughty things. And so we I was talking to that kind of I wanted to bring it up. And what I brought up to her was a fantasy. I said, I asked her, I said, what, you know, do you have any type of fantasies? And my wife is like super vanilla. So she was like, no, nothing. I was like, OK, I was like, well, you know, and the typical thing is like, I was afraid that she was going to be like, is he gay? You're like, why is he? Why is he wanting to do this? You know, and so I went ahead and told her, I was like, hey, like, I've got a fantasy. I'm like, we're three some. But it's not the type of three some that you think. So I I would I would like to, you know, for it to be you and me and another guy. And yeah, she was she was very surprised. You know, but I was I would get into detail about it. And, you know, I could tell that it would turn her on. And but at the same time, she would question me. You know, thinking that that I was just that it was like a way in for me to try to get a girl. Totally. That's what everyone says. Just let me just let me hear from you. Like, what were those thoughts going through your mind when your husband comes in because, listen, the only reason why I know this, this is a kink and it's so popular is because I do my show. But when I was outside of my show, I would I would be shocked if some guy came and told me that because not one guy ever in my life ever said that, including the guy that just told me he was into it. And I was always his best friend. So, you know, I don't think that most people know that this is something that guys are into. So when he first comes to you and tells you that you kind of think it's like a trap for him to get like the two girl thing going on. Yes. Well, and especially coming from a person that was so jealous and controlling the relationship. You know what I mean? So I honestly didn't know what to think at first. I thought, oh, my God, is he trying to leave me? Is he trying to test me to see if I'm going to go along with this and and what's going to happen? Or is it because he wants another girl and I told him, I said, look, if you want another girl, like I wasn't OK with it at the moment because I was still kind of close minded, you know? And so I told him, I was like, if you want another girl, I said, I mean, you can try it. I don't know. I'm not I'm not by, you know, but I was like, we can kind of try it, I guess. But I wasn't really completely open to it. You know, like I wasn't expecting it to happen like right away or anything like that. Right. But you couldn't believe what he was putting out there. Like, even though he's telling you, this is what I like. You're thinking it has to be something else other than this. Yes. Yes. And so it I mean, we just kept going with the conversations. And, you know, every time we travel, we'd we'd bring up those conversations because that was that's what would keep us up at night, because sometimes we travel through the night. And so it was always our conversations. And more and more he kept saying it and I thought, oh, my gosh, he's serious. He's really serious about this. And I thought, how is he going to let someone else touch me if he used to be so jealous? And like he said, he used to question my past, you know, and I didn't have a big past or anything. I just had, you know, a couple of boyfriends. And so he would question those. And I kept thinking, oh, my gosh, he's just testing me right now to see what I say. Or like it sounds like a trap, right? Like you're going to you're going to give him what he wants and he's going to get upset. There's no way. Right. Yeah. I would be afraid to. Yes. But no, I mean, it wasn't that wasn't the case. So yeah, I was I was being 100 percent. And I didn't bring it up to her until I knew that I was like at least 90 percent sure about what I wanted us to do. Right. Because so I would play out the scenario constantly over in my head and think and also think about, well, what could be the negative part of this? And like, like I thought some said, OK, the worst thing that could happen is she can really dig the guy that she's fucking and then she can run off. And you know what, if that's what it is, you know, what am I going to do? You know, you just got to keep living life. Right. It's not it's not over. You know, life's not over. It'll be fine. But that's a logical thing to think of. I mean, you know, if for people that don't think that they're stupid, right? Like you're thinking it all through every angle. Right. And that is a possibility. How do you know you're offering her up to somebody else? Exactly. Right. And for my thing is so I'm an average guy, you know, I've got an average guy's cock, maybe a little bit of average, but but it's just average, you know? And and so I wanted her to experience, you know, what I was watching in porn. You know, I was watching that weird. Every guy is like you. It's like that's another thing, Jess. Isn't that like the opposite of what you would think you'd want? Someone bigger than him? Like it doesn't make any sense. It's like the upside down world. Just the whole scenario was just like, what in the world are you saying? As far as like him thinking that I was going to think he was good, I absolutely did not think that whatsoever. OK. And then he did show me, he started showing me like the videos that he was talking about. And I thought, OK, it looks like she's having fun. It looks like work, but it looks like she's having fun. And so I still just thought, oh, it's just a fantasy. You know, it's going to stay as a fantasy. I didn't care to act out on it. You know, I like I said, it was just more for him. If that's what he wanted to do, I thought, OK, but I really didn't think it was going to we were going to go through with it, to be honest, I didn't think it was going to happen. She thought I was all talk, but I was real. It was not all talk. OK, keep going. How does it progress? This is like the super interesting start, right? Because that everybody that hasn't started yet, like these are the moments that changes everything, right? Right. And so the second step is to just look for a guy. Well, when did you say, OK, let's do this in real life? She pretty would like maybe three months in. Maybe we talked about it a lot because we didn't actually do anything until like a year later. Oh, yeah. About a year. Yeah. But you had agreed to it, though. Yes, because I thought I thought he was just bluffing. I was probably his bluff. So you're just like, yeah, OK, we'll do it fine. But you didn't think it was going to actually happen. Because I was like, I was like, he's full of it. He's not going to go through with it. Well, I mean, he he you set up the Instagram account. Yeah. So another thing also is that. Well, first, he used to he used to take video of us while we were having sex. And I sometimes didn't really pay attention. Like I was all into it and he had already set up something. And I'm like, what in the world? You're recording? He's like, yes. Oh, my God. And and so I felt very insecure, you know, about my body. And and he was loving it. He, you know, he would record us and, you know, since the videos were just for him, I thought, well, OK, it's fine. You know, you know, you're going off into another day. You're going to the upshare of what? So go ahead with the. No, this is interesting. What's what's wrong with that? No, it's because she's going off into the bag that she's got an only fan, you know, into how she got into that. But we're still in the hot life. But I know this was the part that got us there. Right. Because you start before you hook up with a guy. He starts to wait. But listen to me, you guys, before you hook up with a guy, you do start this Instagram account with these videos or pictures. Right. OK, so that's a. But yeah. Yeah. And this was behind my back. He went off and was easy. So he set up an Instagram account because I would tell him, you know, I was so insecure about my body about myself and he was like, no, you have this amazing bad and all this stuff. And I was like, it's just you. It's just you thinking that. No, go ahead. Let me tell this story because he talks down about herself a lot. And I don't like it because she's amazing. But anyway, so the thing is she used to. So what she used to do is she used to always be like bent over on the bed. She's got this big old booty. And she'd be bent over on the bed waiting for me. Right. And just, you know, once I'd get out of the shower. And so I would sneak a picture every now and then. And I think I think she knew I was taking pictures that I'd and still on Instagram, I noticed that there was a lot of girls that were showing their ass. And I'm like, well, my wife's ass is either just like this or better, you know, so so I made an account. I mean, I don't think anybody should do this. I just I did it is I've set up an account. And started posting her pics. And I wanted her to see the love that she would get on Instagram. So she could see that she's hot. That she's wrong, that she's not right. Right. You want to give her the confidence because you're trying to tell her she's not listening to. Yeah. Yes. And I wanted to show her that like, hey, there's other men out here that think you're hot as well. Like, yeah, right. Just me. I'm not famous just because I love you. It's because I really, you know, that aside, I think you're hot. Right. So did this immediately got tons of followers, thousands. And you're kidding. So then I worked up the courage. I was like, you know what? I think it was less than a month. But anyway, so I worked up the courage to tell her about it. I'll say, hey, so I did this and she she was a little bit upset about it. But then quickly got over it. She saw how many she was getting tons of likes and good comments. So my thing was that I I I just didn't want my face to be shown. I didn't want anyone to know as me. So I was just afraid. But once he showed me that it was just booty pics and, you know, just things like that, my face was not being shown. I thought, OK, you know what? That's fine. Right. Yeah. So so then that progressed to the only fans. And I told her about only I said, hey, I think we could make money with this with your booty. But and so then we opened up the only fans started doing that. It was decent. And but the conversations that the guys were having with her, a lot of them were like suggesting that she should be with the black guy. And then it just I don't know. I had already been watching that point as well. And I was like, you know, this would be good. And then I guess we're going back. And then, you know, I brought up the whole thing to her about the three some and all that. And then I guess we can move on from there. But so so I started looking on Reddit. For a guy, you know, there's certain pages, there's certain pages on Reddit that you can look for BBC in Texas. Right. And and so got on there, advertised her and, you know, got all kinds of messages. And the sad thing about it is there's a lot of there's a lot of fakes, so many fakes and a lot of guys are on there. They'll post pictures of other guys and say that it's them just to get a picture of your wife. Has your sex drive felt off lately? Or have you ever had a time where your sex drive just wasn't where it normally is? I feel like that's like super common with both men and women. And that's why you need to check out Drive Boost by VB Health. Drive Boost enhances libido and sex drive naturally. It is doctor formulated with four scientifically backed ingredients for sex drive. And one of those ingredients, Maka worked super fast. Some people see results in just one to two days with most people seeing results in just one to two weeks of daily use. My listeners have reported back and said not only does Drive Boosts f-ing work, for sure. One guy says he is now doing it three times a day with his wife. And that happens to him after seven to 10 days of taking it. They also have other great products like Load Boost, Soaking Wet, and they just dropped a nude product called Energy Boost. It's a pre-workout powder that you drink with effective ingredients for blood flow, energy and focus. Try the raspberry flavor. It's really delicious and it works. So what are you waiting for? Go get yourself some Drive Boost by VB Health. All you got to do is go to vb.health and use my code Strictly for 10% off. That's VB.health. Use code Strictly for 10% off or just go to the description, click on the link and use my code Strictly. Hey guys, has timing ever been an issue for you in the bad room? Well, listen, you're definitely not alone because there really is an orgasm gap. It's a fact. Girls take a little bit longer to have an orgasm than guys. And that's where promescence delay spray comes in. It's not just for guys with premature ejaculation. It is for any guy who wants more control and confidence in the bad room. Promescence delay spray does not totally numb you out. Okay. And it's not going to transfer to your partner. And the good news is promescent also makes killer products for women. My personal fave is their warming arousal gel. It gives you like a this tingly warm sensation that gets you in the mood and makes your orgasm better. So make sure when you're getting yourself some delay spray, you throw in something for your girl to promescent offers and free shipping on any order over 20 bucks and they ship everything in a discreet package. So no one's going to know what the f you bought. And the good news is right now, all new customers are going to get 15% off their entire purchase. If you go to promescent.com, just use code Kathy K 15 or just go to promescent.com slash Kathy K 15. And 15% is going to be automatically applied at checkout. You're going to get 15% off your whole order. So order up that's promescent.com slash Kathy K 15 or just go to the description and click on the link and 15% is going to be automatically applied at checkout. So I started looking on Reddit for a guy, you know, there's certain pages, there's certain pages on Reddit that you can look for BBC in Texas. Right. And and so got on there, advertised her and, you know, got all kinds of messages. And the sad thing about it is there's a lot of there's a lot of fakes, so many fakes and a lot of guys are on there. They'll post pictures of other guys and say that it's them just to get a picture of your wife. Right. I started getting a whole lot of that. So then I told my wife that today, we're not going to send pictures of you. We're just going to, you know, do the whole process and see if they can verify a picture and go from there. So we ended up finding a guy from Houston. I don't know. Can we say that in Houston? We're in Texas, but anyway, over in Houston and it was a bus to was it? I would say it's a bus, right? He's a partially. So we get to a hotel and then he says, I'm going to have someone come over and I said, what? Oh my God, you don't even know that this is set up. Like I said, I was still calling his bluff and I was like, seriously, he's also he's kind of also calling your bluff. No, no offense. I kind of, yeah. Come on. You're both calling each other's bluffs. Oh my God. Yes. He lays out this fix the lingerie on the bed and he's like, all right, go shower and get dressed. And I was like, okay, he's kidding. Like no one's going to show up. You know, this whole time I'm like kind of believe him. No, no, because I thought surely the guy's not going to show up and surely he's not going to let someone touch me. Right? No, the guy shows up and I'm nervous. You know, I'm so nervous. And the whole time I'm still looking at my husband like, oh my gosh, you're going to let him touch me. She looked like your face. Like you're going to let someone touch me when you, you know, the way, like I said, the way he was years ago, right? Yeah. And he's like, yeah, go ahead. And I was like, oh my gosh, well, what do I do? You know, I can do to it. Like, like if I've never had sex, basically. And so then he, you know, usually he just, you know, well, how we do it is he, my husband will come up to me and just kiss me and, you know, kind of get me to calm down a little bit. So that's what we did the first time. And, and so. Just to calm nerves down. Yeah. And then she. Let me ask you this, James, before you explain what goes down during this whole time, why you're with this guy, how are you feeling though? Because listen, you could go over it in your head a million times. Like, do you have any part of you that's nervous because you don't really know how you're going to react until you're in this situation? Or had you thought about it so much that you weren't nervous anymore? But did you have any kind of like worry? I was excited, but yes, I was nervous. Right. In the first place, you got a stranger coming over doing a, you know, hotel or everything. Yeah. And you don't know if he's going to kill you. You don't know if it's going to be that situation. It's either going to be real bad or real fun. And luckily, you know, the guy showed up. He was a decent looking guy. Uh, and it's funny because. I guess I'd only seen my cock ever, you know, in real life. Right. Right. Exactly. I've never looked anywhere else. And then so I thought, okay, well, I'm surely they've got big guys cool. But yeah, I don't think I was ready for what I saw when he dropped his pants. I was like, holy shit, this guy's, this guy's fucking huge. Oh my God, really? Yeah. Well, I'm going to say, yeah, he was, he was like about eight, eight and a half, nine inches, something like that. So yeah. But anyway, so he drops his pants or he starts making it out of my wife. Then he does his pants. My wife, this is something that I was very surprised. My wife just instantly just grabbed your knees and started sucking his cock. But it was hot. It was hot. It was kind of scripted a little bit. He said, I want you to do this. And I said, okay. So once we were all in, well, then I went ahead and I mean, I did take something to kind of calm my nerves before, before he arrived, you know, so, so I was kind of relaxed. And so it, I mean, it didn't last long. Yeah. So the guy was like a two pump. Yeah. That's that. Yeah. That was a sad thing is as soon as she bent over and he was fucking her doggy, like, yeah, I'm going to say it was like two or three pumps and then he came, he was done. And then after that, I think he got nervous because he was kind of a nerdy guy. And yeah. And then he just got super in his head, I guess, about coming because we were like, we're like, that's it, you know, and he just couldn't get hard anymore. But and I remember as well, I couldn't get hard either. Like I was like, maybe stopped like halfway. And, but I remember I was super turned on of the whole scenario, but for some reason, I just couldn't get hard. And that was the way right now. Now it. Now you're fine. But that first time you had stage fright. First time. Yeah, it was just a lot of emotions, you know, during that, that first time, you know. So I feel like it was good for us to just kind of try it out. Since it was just like two, three pumps and then he was done and then we were like, OK, get out, you know, yeah. And then we had sex. Yeah, it was good because I don't know if I would have been ready for her to just get pounded for hours. And then, you know, it being the first time, that would be kind of weird. So yeah, it was like baby steps in, I guess, kind of deal. How did you feel afterwards, by the way, James? Like, did you realize OK, wasn't jealous at all? I was totally fine. Yeah, I was totally good with it. Yeah, I wanted more. I was like, yeah, we need to we need to do this again. Like, and was that guy a black guy? Yes, they've all been black guys. OK, so I've got this weird thing and I'm not I'm not racist whatsoever. But so a lot of we had a lot. When you follow that with a butt, what the fuck does that mean? No, no, no. I think one of the bodies like what the fuck. No. Well, the thing is, the thing is, is we had we had a lot of Hispanics and a lot of white people. And then a lot of black people. All message. Right. It doesn't matter if you post on BBC. Everybody just starts hitting you up. And so I noticed that a lot of the interactions with the Hispanic guys and the white guys, they were super aggressive. And they were like they're going to be the best cock that she's ever had, you know, just really, really cocky. Yeah. And that's all I'm putting. Exactly. It is, especially for her. But for me, it's like I already, I'm already like a, I want to say I'm macho guy, but I don't want to be like already, you're fucking my wife. I don't want to be the sissy in the room. You know, I'm not. Of course. No, no, no, I get it. And I'm saying that makes you feel like you're kind of like I'm already doing that to my wife. You don't need to come in and do that. Yeah, I get it. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. You're just there to give her a good time. Yeah. You're not going to be the greatest thing in the world. Like it's okay. Yeah. They have no fucking game. That's that's wrong to go in that way. Yeah, it is. It is. It's super. Yeah. And for me, I'm like, I'm at the point where, yeah, that's great. If you could do that, but don't say it. Imagine having a threesome with the girl and the girl says to your wife, oh my God, don't worry, I'm going to go in and be the hottest bitch your husband has ever had. You think about it. The girl would feel. I would be like, no, ma'am. Yeah, of course. It's like, it's just not cool, right? At all. Yeah. Yeah. And so I noticed that and and the black guys for the most part, you know, give it, there was a few sprinkled in there that had the same attitude, but for the most part, they were super chill. Yeah. Very respectful. And I'm like, hey, this, this is what it is right here. These, these, but these guys are awesome. Yeah. So we're going to go this route. And then I had heard of the whole QOS thing and it was exciting. I loved, you know, because you've talked about it as well as like the, the whole, you know, the black cock and the white pussy, you know, it's just, it goes together for some reason. It just looks hot. Right. It's, it's the, it's visually very stimulating. Correct. Plus you actually like the personality more, right? Like they were, they were just cooler. Super chill guys. They're, they don't look like they're trying to take your wife away. And also I've listened. Yeah. But so I've, I've listened to a lot of your episodes and I've heard, I heard a white bull one time. He was kind of bragging about taking his, the guy's wife, I guess, he was a cook, I don't know what it was, but he was kind of like bragging about taking the guy's wife. And that's the kind of energy that I'm talking about. I'm like, no, like if he was a real bull, a real bull doesn't do that. Right. But, but I got to say though, but if in that story, the white husband was a cock, that's what the extreme cock does want. Okay. That's what that cock wants. You're not a cock. You're a stag, right? So you're not looking for that. Right. Right. Mm hmm. Yeah. Yeah, I guess that's what, but you know, and don't get me wrong. Also, the gang bang guys, he had a group on his gang. Oh, the one guy that runs all the, oh my God. I guess he sets up gang bands. Yeah. All group of black guys. Yeah. I think you seem like he's, I think he was an older gentleman. Yeah. But he seemed, he, I felt like he could have done a better job. He seemed way too excited. I'm like, dude, just calm down. He was all over the place. Yeah. He was, he was way too excited to see, oh, wife naked. It's like, dude, you're, you know, he's been there. Like it's okay. Yeah. But, but anyway, for the most part, that's like, that's why I love what we do. These, well, tell me about your second, third experience. Like, when did it start getting good? Well, immediately. The second guy, the second guy she met up with was great. Like this guy, just a few months later, right? It was, it was a couple months later, uh, because we live out in the, out of nowhere and so we're like several hours from Dallas. So the guy we met up with next was over in Dallas and yeah, super cool guy, chill and huge cock and he knew. So a lot of things also is these guys, I think, because she has had bad experiences, you know, where it just looks like a mess. It just looks like two people clashing bodies. Yeah. And so the second guy, he was just in motion with her. He was doing exactly what he needed to do. Yeah. And like you said, I did get a little bit. So we had restrictions. We, I did have certain rules. It wasn't just everything goes. Right. And so I cut it off. I cut it off too soon because I could tell that she was getting really turned on and it almost seemed like she was about to come. And I was like, okay, we're done. It was an asshole move. So that was all on me is. So we had a rule that she couldn't come. Also not really any like eye contact while she was stuck in the cock. Like no eye contact. Uh-huh. I don't know. It was, it was rules that are out the window now. The eye contact one I've heard before. It's not as out there. Like, of course, the kissing ones always the first to come in and first to go. But I've heard of the note that eye contact thing before that's out the window too. Yeah. Oh, for sure. It's way hotter if she gives it in my contact now. Right. You know, because I take video, we take video of all these meetups like and that just that's way hotter. Yeah. And at the time I didn't, you know, it was still my ego. They was had these restrictions, right? And, and yeah, like I said, now they're out the window. I think there was no kissing as well right in the beginning. I think so. Yeah. And so yeah, that's all gone. I mean, there was a lot of rules. You had a lot of rules. Yeah. What were some of the other ones? Do you remember, Jazz? Well, well, there's a lot of rules for the guys because so some of these guys would show up like in crocs. You know, just not put together at all. Maybe, maybe not freshly out of the shower. Yeah. You know, my biggest is the white dirty socks. If you're going to have white socks, please let it be a clean pair of socks. Yeah. I just don't understand our brand new pair of white socks. You can't, you know, so that'd be a big side. My dream in life is to have a new pair of socks every single day and never have to re-wear a pair of socks. I'm so into clean socks. That's how much I, you know, say exactly. Yeah. I got it. And white socks get dirty fast, but it's fucking gross. Sorry. I agree with you. Yeah. So, you know, black socks or, you know, take your socks off. Yeah. So yeah, that was my biggest thing. And then just be clean. My wife has a really good sense of smell. So they would have to be like freshly showered. Right. Good breath. All that, you know, because all that, you know, kills the vibe. Well, and also like I take the time to get ready for them. I have a usually picks out my outfits, any outfit that he wants to see me in. And so I get dressed up. I do my makeup, my hair, my nails. He spray tends me. I mean, like I would go all out, you know, like I get ready for them. Right. So you want the same? Yes. I would expect for them to look like they're going at least on a casual date, you know, like presentable, be clean, smell good, you know, just the basic, you know, just hygiene, just be clean, you know. Yeah. Not too much to ask. I mean, do most guys show up, but let me ask you this out of all the guys that you've been with, would you say the majority shows up like how you want them to? I think. No, no. No, only her, her, her now regular bulls. Yeah, they're great. The guys show up. That's why they're regular. Yeah. Yes. Are you, let me ask you this about like when you're having the three systems. Are you typically involved, James, or are you watching doing both? Are you videotaping? Like what's your participation? So it started off, you know, I set up the cameras and it started off with me being a little bit involved. And, uh, and then I kind of just, that was she warms up, you know, and then I back off and just let them do their thing. And because I started noticing that I don't like to see myself on camera. Like I jerk off to these vids later. So I don't want myself in the video. That's just weird to me out. So, so I like to print and just be her and them. Eventually I want her to be with two guys, but we have yet to do that. Right. But that is on your bucket list. Oh, for sure. Right. So did you start then posting this stuff on your only fans and or do you keep this more stuff just for yourself? Well, you know, for only fans, you got to get consent. Yeah. Yes. So it's only for the guys that have given consent. Yeah. And one of our bulls gave consent. So all his stuff is out there on her only fans. Right. And, uh, and yeah, just them and the guys that don't, we still go in and do it. And, you know, I just keep the videos for myself. You know, they're fine with it. You know, as long as I don't put it out there. Hey, Jess, let me ask you a couple of questions because, you know, listen, this was something that he got like hardcore into and everything. And you kind of like, it sounds like maybe in the beginning, you're like, want to please your husband, you're jumping on board. Like, is this something that you're very into now? Did you realize you were very turned on by it? Like, do you enjoy, uh, like the whole hot wife thing thing now? You know, how does, how did your feelings sort of progress from like the first time you did it to now? So now I think I'm just more, as long as I see him getting turned on, it turns me on. Right. If he's turned on, I'm turned on and then I do better. Right. Performance is a lot better. I do enjoy it. I do enjoy it at the time, but then once we leave, it's like it never happened. Selling your car can be super simple. If you choose we buy any car instead of selling privately, we buy any car can get it sorted in under an hour. So no weekends watching randoms inspect your car to not even buy it. If only they could make finding where your park simpler. Was it floor two or three? I swear a park to you. Where is it? We buy any car selling made simple to get a quote in 30 seconds. Enter your register number now at we buy any car.com. You know, wait, wait, this is kind of interesting. So you don't have like the whole reclaiming thing. You haven't been able to tap into that or you do. No, we do. Okay. So when you say it's never happened, it's like it just becomes back about you and your husband and you don't even think about that guy. That's what you mean? Yes. Yes. I don't think about it. I don't until we talked about it again, then I'm like, oh yeah, I did do that. Oh yeah, it was fun. You know, so he'll tell me, well, it looked like you were enjoying it. And I'm like, show me. And I'm like, yes, I was enjoying it. You know, it kind of, you know, kind of like it never happened. But let me ask you that. Did you ever have bad feelings about it? Like, did you ever feel like not right about it in the beginning at all ever? At the beginning? Yes. At the beginning? Yes. I think that's important to talk about. That's, you know, that's real life. I think our first time on our drive back, we were both kind of quiet. We were both quiet and then he started asking questions and talking and I mean, it happened so fast, right? It was kind of a blink of an eye and then the guy was gone. Yeah. So there wasn't a whole lot to talk about, but we were talking kind of about our emotions and I think he just still kind of needed to process the whole thing and me too. And so halfway is home, then we started talking about it and, and that was it. You know, we just had a conversation about how we felt at the moment and, and if it was okay and then he said, I still want to do it again. And I said, are you sure? And he said, yeah, I said, even though this wasn't as great and he's like, yeah. So, you know, second time came around and it was better, a little better. But like he said, he stopped it and I thought, why would he stop it? If that's what we were trying to do? Of course, I wasn't going to come. Yeah. But it would never come. No. So before my husband, I never came until my husband. And what is he, why with him? Do you feel like it's because you felt so intimate with him or because his dick is shaped a different way or he just knows what to do? Like why him and nobody else? I think all of it together, like everything combined, he just knows how to please me. And so he was the only person that's ever made me come. That's why you married him. Yes. So it was kind of like, you know, so when we started playing, that was one of the rules like you can't come now it's out the window. Oh, that's the dumbest rule I've ever heard. Wait a second. Who made up that rule? Well, I did. Oh, my God, James, you are so that is so fucking selfish of you. It was toxic. Yes. Oh my God. It was his fantasy. So we went by his rules. Oh my God. No, no, no. Wait, sorry, just listen. Okay. I need to stick up for you. If you were my friend, I'd be like coming over to your house with you to help you deal with this. Okay. Because it's when you say it's his fantasy. So it's his rules. No, it's his fantasy, which means he's getting what he wants. So that means you have even more of a of the option to say I get to fucking come to so I get something out of this. That doesn't make sense. Well, the thing is, the thing is that it takes a lot for me to come like he's the one that knows what I know, but I'm sorry. I don't care about that. I care about the fact James, you are too fucking funny. Even you know, it's ridiculous. The fact that you told her you were not allowed to come is out of control. Yes, because he was the only one I had ever made. He's laughing. He knows he wanted to keep it. Yes, he knows now. He wanted to keep it that way. Like him being the only one. Oh, it was just the macho. The part in me that talks. That was the leftover. It's all gone. He was gone like within not even six months. He was like, no, I want you to come. Okay. Finally. No. Mm hmm. Well, the thing is is when I'm sorry. I'm just always perplexed. This is why like you're married to him and I'm not like, I just can't believe how nice you are, Jess. Like I would be like, our go fuck yourself. Like I can't believe girls are so much nicer than me. This is why I never got married because I could never be like you, Jess. You're so I can't believe you signed up for that for six months. Yeah, that's Southern women. That's the way. Oh, really? Okay. Oh, that's listen up guys. This is where you get the nice girls. That's south. I think for me was just more like, okay, we're doing this for you. I'm cool with that. You know what I mean? Like you're already allowing someone else to touch me. Yeah. No, I know. You're so nice. That was nice. It wasn't it wasn't so much that I was like, oh, yes, let's do this. You know, I wasn't the type and I'm still not the type that that is like, okay, yes, let's do this and I'm like pushing for it every weekend because if it was up to him, we do it every weekend. We can't because we live so far. Yeah. We do it maybe like three or four times a year is that when we, you know, get them lined out, but it's not it's not as often as he would like. And for me, I'm just like, it's whenever it's hard to corral guys, single guys. Of course. Yeah. Well, that's it. Well, she does have her regulars. How many regulars do you have? She's got two bulls, two regular bulls in Dallas. Okay. And let me ask you this Jess, like because you go for like these guys that are kind of bigger than your husband, like are you becoming a little bit of a size queen? Do you enjoy the bigger dicks? Do you come from them now? No, I don't think I'm a size queen at all. Okay. I do enjoy it at the moment, you know, but even though my husband says he's not, uh, he's just a little bit above average. I feel his is perfect for me. Right. You know, I'm completely perfect. Yeah. Yeah. And especially like, he knows exactly what to do. So I don't, I don't feel like I'm missing anything at all. Right. I get it. You know, so these guys just kind of make it fun for the moment. He records it and we watch it together or he watches it, whichever. And that's it. You know, it's just for fun. It's just added fun. Totally. The cherry on top. Yeah. But do you have orgasms with any of them? Yes. I do. It's not often. It's not all the time. Okay. That's kind of big for you considering your husband was the only one that ever could, right? Yes. You know, and it's funny because now I'm the one that gets upset if she doesn't come. Yeah. Really? That's why she's having the orgasms. It's all that she's doing it for you, James. She's so nice. And if it was up to me and to him, we had to come every time, but it doesn't always work out that way. Sometimes the guys just can't stay hard or, or I don't know. Yeah. That's more common than it's not. Yeah. I try to tell her, you know, it's not her fault. It's all the women out there. It is not your fault. Oh my God. I always say that. Yeah. Yes. You know, us men, I don't think anybody really, you know, realize, but this flight is little thing. It could be something that we're thinking about early in the day. Some something could just completely kill it. And then once it's killed, then all you do is focus on the fact that you can't get hard and then you really, it's gone. It's really hard to get it back. It becomes a mental thing. Yeah. I do want to mention this. And I once again, not, not, what is it? I don't recommend it for. I don't know. Here we go. I don't know if you've got really deep into peptides. Well, okay. There's, there's a peptide. It's called PT 141. Mm hmm. Uh, men who are after bulls, I highly recommend this stuff. So yeah, well, yeah, don't, but do. We actually don't recommend it because we're not doctors or anything like that. Yeah, but you take it. You're allowed to talk about taking it. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Just make sure. So this, so this stuff, it makes you get so it works from the brain down. Mm hmm. It's not like Viagra, all that stuff, all that stuff is great, but this works from the brain and then works its way down. It makes you want that, but at the same time without even thinking about it. So I get hard arms with that just randomly. Yeah. That's amazing. And I'm talking about the hard arms, like when I was 16, 17, that's good to know. I want to get a doctor on talking about peptide soon because I want to, I want to learn about them for my show. Yeah. It's like super hard. Yeah. We do other peptides and they're great. I don't understand why it's such a thing, but. No, it's actually a new thing. I think people are becoming better educated about it, you know, but they're becoming more mainstream and more doctors are into it. It's just a matter of educating people and learning about it because I feel like there's a lot of stuff on the market. They say people are selling without, you know, scripts and everything, but you know, I want someone coming on soon to talk about them because I think it's like interesting and people talk, you know, people that do take them talk very highly of them. Yes. The only bad thing about it, it does have side effects. It does. And it gives you like a headache and things like that, but we, you know, there's different places that you can inject it. And I feel like the last time we did one because he will give it to me also or I've done it three times. I think the first time it was good for men and women. The first time it was good. I did feel nauseous, feel a little bit sick for like a few minutes. And then I was like on him for like two days. I could not get off with him because it only lasts like two or three, two days. I think I feel like it's like two days or so. And then the second time, the second time it didn't make me sick and it ruined the whole night. So we didn't get to do anything because I felt so sick to my stomach. The third time we injected in the thigh and then went to sleep and I woke up fine and I wouldn't get off of him for two days again. The thing about it is I recommend to do it right before bed. That way the nausea and all that, you sleep right through it. Yeah. That's why I take my supplements at night. So I don't feel anything. I do have to say like blue chew now to have blue chew gold and it's kind of like, you know, maybe this is why they're doing it because there's all these things out now where the blue chew gold has all the ingredients to make you hard. Like the Viagra and the Seattle's all that kind of stuff like, you know, stuff like that, but they are now putting in oxytocin and something out. Like I forget what the two other ingredients are in it to change your brain. Right. It's to make you get around. Yeah. To, so that now you're getting the blue chew. So you're getting like the physical heart sensation you're supposed to get, but it's now you're getting also the mental thing that you're talking about, which is great. It gets you like in the mood as well in your brain, not just in your body. Yes, ma'am. Yeah. There you go. So let me ask you guys this. Okay. Like at the end of the day, you, you, how long you've been like hot wiping for now at this point? It's only been like three years. Yes. Three only. I think we're going to say three months. That would be only three months. Okay. That's not that short of a time. I talked a lot of newbies. So for me, three years is, you know, a long time. How do you feel like it has changed your relationship? You know, it, you know, and how has it made you guys feel about each other? First you answered James and then you answered Jess. Both of you answer the question. So yeah, it's, I think it's amazing. I don't, I don't know if it's just me, right? It might be other guys too, but something about her being able to go out, be naughty, then come back to me and only me and only want me. There's like a, like a little flex for me. It's, it's like, uh, I don't, I'm not intimidated now. I don't feel like I could just lose her from the drop of the hat. You know, you feel more confident is what you're saying than less. Way more confident. And I love the confidence. You know, it's not, you know, cause guys, you know how guys are, you know, they're always afraid of the guy with the big dick that's going to come and steal your wife away type of thing. And I don't have that. Like I know that she can have that and then she can come back to me and, and, uh, yeah, and she's, she's awesome. Our sex life is great. We have amazing sex. So, and now just you answer the question. I mean, honestly, what it's done to us is it's made our communication a lot better. Our relationship a lot stronger. I mean, we talked about everything now. Everything is out in the open. Our sex life is even better. I think I mean, just, I mean, it was great before it was great, but like our orgasms now are just like beyond amazing, you know, because I feel like our connection, like I said, our communication has a lot to do with it. So it makes our relationship stronger and it makes us just want each other, desire each other a lot more. And then our trust, I feel like we do trust each other a lot more. I don't leave. I don't go and have, you know, meet up with them by myself. He's always there. And that's the biggest thing to me. Like, I don't feel like I would ever want to be away from him because I feel like I did for him. So I need him to be there watching. I want him to be there watching. That's what turns me on. Right. And I feel like that's what makes it sexier and just hotter. You know, so, but I feel like our relationship has gotten way stronger for sure. Yeah, that's amazing. It's yeah. And do you the last question, Joss, is because he did say that he wants to see you with two guys, right? Are you planning to do that? Well, we kind of tried, but it doesn't usually work out like one always has something going on and we're trying to get both of my bowls from Dallas. The two that my regulars, because I feel like they would be a good, a good fit with me, you know, like both of them have kind of like the same energy. They're both very laid back. They both kind of let me take charge and I like to be the one taking charge. I like for them to do for them to take control here and there, but I like to be in control as well. Right. And so I love that they both let me just do whatever I want to do. If I want to bounce around on them, they let me do it. I mean, so I feel like both of them are really good fit together for me, you know. Right. So that's who you would do it with. So you could do it with them. Yes, because we had been looking for someone and every time we have a meetup, I'm like, no, he wouldn't be good for a meetup with someone else. Like we're not, you know, like he said, we're not always in rhythm. You know, I'm not always in rhythm with them because I like to take control and a lot of these guys want to be the ones to take control and bend me up like a pretzel and you know, all sorts of things and I like things more sensual. And so the, the two bowls, my regular ones are the ones that I feel like, yeah, they, they would be a better match. Yeah, it's just scheduling. Yeah. Right. But I mean, we have something coming up in a couple of weeks and they're both available. So I'm hoping that we somehow get them both the same day and maybe make it happen. So we'll see. Oh my goodness. Okay. So listen now, why don't you give a shout out to your Instagram and your only fans and all that kind of stuff and make sure to send me pics for my Patreon and all that kind of stuff. Okay. So let me see. We had to write it down. So what do we get? My O.F. Do you want me to give that? Yeah. It's at curvy Latina 007. Curvy Latina 007. Okay. Yes. And then I have a Reddit account which is curvy Latina underscore 007. Okay. That's easy to remember. Okay. And then do you have the Instagram still or no? No, we don't, we don't focus on the Instagram. That's Well, they blocked, they blocked us several times already. Like we're building up really good and somebody reports it and then that's it. And I mean, I don't even show much. I'll just go to, I have no idea. I don't know what happens that somebody just reports it for no reason. I know because you see straight up porn on there all the time is rampant. It doesn't make sense. But you know what you learn really early on? Cause I got deleted on YouTube and I have 57,000 followers and you just learned that don't put your time in places where you're not really safe and put your time into the places where you are. You know what I mean? There's no reason to bother there because you get thrown off. Yeah. And we kind of feel like maybe it could be some of the people that we turned down because there's so many, so many that message and we're just narrow. Guys have not taken a little. No, I know. I used to fight with people in the comments on YouTube and those are probably the ones I got me thrown off to, but you know, whatever. You can't be on platforms like that if they allow people to take you down with like that easy. It's not worth it for you. So listen, I will put your names and you're a link in the description and you know, send me pics though. For my page, I always say like R rated pics. Like if you have like lingerie shots or something, but we're nothing like private is really showing like no nips or anything. But for my discord, you're going to, when you hang up, you'll get a free link. Not free. My discord isn't, you don't get charged, but you'll get a private link to my discord there. There's a content creator section. So you could go in there and promote stuff for your, you know, in your only fans, put your only fans link in your bio and then you can post on the guest channel when your episode airs for sure. So you'll get that link when we hang out up and then send me pics ASAP. So I have it for when your episode airs for Patreon. Those pics should be R rated the discord. You could do X rated anything goes over there, but Patreon is R rated, but send me that stuff sooner than later and I'll send you a free link to see the comments on your Patreon episode for like one month, when your episode airs. I'll email you. Okay. Okay. Perfect. Thanks you guys. You made me laugh James. Thanks so much for calling in. We love you by the way. Oh, I love that. I love your show. I love couples that listen together. You're the best. We see you. Yeah, it's awesome. Now thanks for calling in and telling your short, your story. Yes, ma'am. Thank you. Bye you guys. Bye. Bye. Bye. From the co-author of attached, the book that reshaped our understanding of anxious, avoidant and secure attachment styles comes the new audio book, Secure. Dr. Amir Levine's latest research shows that those with secure attachment styles feel more at ease both in their relationships and within themselves. Learn how to rewire your attachment style and unlock stronger relationships, better health, greater resilience and more fulfilling life. Listen to Secure on Spotify now. Okay. I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called strictly anonymous confession, secret sex lives of total strangers is now available not only in paperback and ebook, but you can pre-order the audio book. It's still not going to be out till August 25th, but you can pre-order it. The book is basically 17 different stories taken from my show. I kind of picked one story from each category that I talk about on my show. Like there's a hot wife story. There's a cuck queen story. There's a cuck story. There's a gang bang girl story. Like I said, 17 stories and they're all told in the third person and they're all true. I took the interview and rewrote it in the third person and I wouldn't really call it like a total erotica book. Think like penthouse letters. It's more direct. It's not so over the top like erotica. I don't really like that kind of vibe, right? But these are true stories. 17 of them. They're really short chapters. Easy read. You could read, you know, one or two and then skip around. You could read the whole book. It's available in e-back format, paperback format. And finally, the audio book is available coming out August 25th, but you could pre-order it now. And if you buy my book in any format or pre-order it, I will throw in a complementary link to my discord. My discord does not disappoint. Okay. There's no way you'd get into my discord any other way than getting the link from me. Okay. I give it to people who buy my book. There's tons of people in there. Everybody shares content with each other and that's what you get to do there. You could post your own pictures and videos. There's tons of channels. We have lots of contests where you could win a lot of money. It's a super fun place to be. It's a total strictly anonymous community and you will love it. I will be giving anyone who buys my book access to my discord. It's private. Like I said, all you got to do is email me a screenshot of your purchase, whether you did the audio book, the ebook or the paperback, send it to me at strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com. That's strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com and I will send you the link to discord. So anyway, thanks so much for tuning in. Okay. I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called strictly anonymous confession, secret sex lives of total strangers is now available not only in paperback and ebook, but you can pre-order the audio book. It's still not going to be out till August 25th, but you can pre-order it. The book is basically 17 different stories taken from my show. I kind of picked one story from each category that I talk about on my show. Like there's a hot wife story. There's a cook queen story. There's a cook story. There's a gang being girl story. Like I said, 17 stories and they're all told in the third person and they're all true. I took the interview and rewrote it in the third person and I wouldn't really call it like a total erotica book. Think like penthouse letters. It's more direct. It's not so over the top like erotica. I don't really like that kind of vibe, right? But these are true stories. 17 of them. They're really short chapters. Easy read. You could read, you know, one or two and then skip around. You could read the whole book. It's available in eback format, paperback format. And finally, the audio book is available coming out August 25th, but you could pre-order it now. And if you buy my book in any format or pre-order it, I will throw in a complimentary link to my discord. My discord does not disappoint. Okay. There's no way you'd get into my discord any other way than getting the link from me. Okay. I give it to people who buy my book. There's tons of people in there. Everybody shares content with each other and that's what you get to do there. You could post your own pictures and videos. There's tons of channels. We have lots of contests where you could win a lot of money. It's a super fun place to be. It's a total strictly anonymous community and you will love it. I will be giving anyone who buys my book access to my discord. It's private. Like I said, all you got to do is email me a screenshot of your purchase, whether you did the audio book, the ebook or the paperback, send it to me at strictlyanonymouspodcast.com. That's strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and I will send you the link to discord. So anyway, thanks so much for tuning in. This is the strictlyanonymouspodcast.