Law Abiding Citizen LIVE! w/ Adam Pally
86 min
•Mar 13, 20263 months agoSummary
The How Did This Get Made team and guest Adam Pally dissect the 2009 Gerard Butler revenge thriller Law Abiding Citizen, exploring its plot holes, inconsistent character motivations, and the tension between its sympathetic protagonist and the justice system it critiques. The live Philadelphia episode features audience Q&A with actual cast members, legal professionals, and viewers who debate the film's logic and ending.
Insights
- Casting decisions fundamentally altered the film's narrative intent—Gerard Butler and Jamie Foxx originally had switched roles, which would have changed audience sympathy and the story's moral center entirely
- The film's core tension stems from unclear villain motivation: the killers' connection to Butler's character is never established, undermining the revenge narrative's emotional logic
- Plea bargaining and criminal justice system compromises are portrayed as villainous, but the film fails to show why the DA's pragmatic approach is actually necessary for the system to function
- Production design and location shooting (Del Frisco's restaurant integration, Philadelphia landmarks) were prioritized over narrative coherence, suggesting script changes during production
- The movie works as a revenge fantasy precisely because it abandons legal logic, making it more appealing to audiences than a procedurally accurate courtroom drama would be
Trends
Revenge narratives in 2000s action cinema prioritized visceral satisfaction over moral clarity or legal realismGerard Butler's emergence as a reliable action star in films with high body counts and minimal character developmentSpec scripts with strong villain-protagonist concepts were highly marketable in the 2009 film market despite structural flawsPost-production ending changes driven by star demands (Jamie Foxx reportedly demanded a new ending) became common practiceCriminal justice system critiques in mainstream cinema often oversimplify plea bargaining as moral failure rather than systemic necessityBody double and stunt casting practices in major studio films created continuity issues (non-matching physiques in intimate scenes)Film ratings pressure (NC-17 edits) influenced content decisions more than narrative coherenceLocation-based product integration (restaurants, landmarks) began influencing script development in mid-budget action films
Topics
Plea Bargaining in Criminal JusticeRevenge Narrative Structure and Audience SympathyCharacter Motivation and Plot ConsistencyPrison Security and Escape LogisticsCasting and Character InterpretationFilm Editing and Rating SystemsLocation Shooting and Product IntegrationVillain-Protagonist Moral AmbiguityProcedural Accuracy vs. Entertainment ValueDirector Vision vs. Studio/Star DemandsBody Double Continuity IssuesSpec Script Development and MarketingJustice System Critique in Mainstream CinemaAction Film Tropes and ClichésPost-Production Reshoots and Rewrites
Companies
Amazon/Prime Video
Hosts and distributes How Did This Get Made podcast; mentioned as potential platform for Law Abiding Citizen sequel
Apple TV
Referenced as potential distributor for Law Abiding Citizen sequel in development discussion
USA Network
Aired Suits TV series; discussed for aggressive marketing campaign using dry cleaner hangers
FX
Marketed The Bear series through creative street-level advertising tactics mentioned as comparison
HBO Max
Distributes Adam Pally's HBO comedy special An Intimate Evening with Adam Pally
People
Gerard Butler
Star of Law Abiding Citizen; described as patron saint of How Did This Get Made podcast; producer on sequel
Jamie Foxx
Co-star of Law Abiding Citizen; reportedly demanded ending changes; played district attorney character
F. Gary Gray
Director of Law Abiding Citizen; made final decisions on ending after multiple script versions
Frank Darabont
Original director who walked off Law Abiding Citizen due to script changes by studio/stars
Adam Pally
Guest co-host for live episode; comedian known for Happy Endings; has HBO special and podcast
Paul Scheer
Host of How Did This Get Made; leads podcast discussion and audience Q&A
Jason Mantzoukas
Co-host of How Did This Get Made; participates in film analysis and audience interaction
Quotes
"I'm rooting for Jerry. Well kill them all Jerry kill them all."
Jason Mantzoukas•Early discussion
"This is the origin story of Batman. So yeah, this is Philly's Batman is Gerard Butler."
Audience member John•Audience Q&A
"I'm a law abiding citizen. I'm just a regular guy. I am not a flight risk."
Gerard Butler (character)•Clip 6 - Courtroom scene
"Whatever happened to justice? And I bet you take it up the fucking ass."
Gerard Butler (character)•Courtroom monologue
"This movie is what would happen with Batman if he saw his wife and daughter raped and murdered."
Audience member John•Audience Q&A
Full Transcript
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You know this person from his podcast from his television shows like Happy Endings From the throwback his brand new HBO comedy special please welcome Adam Paley Adam Paley That's very Let's see if you're doing that in about 45 minutes So a third of the way through the show That's generous Adam so excited to have you here Thank you so so happy to be here. Thank you. I just want to set the the room for you in this way Drard Butler has become One of the people that we have done the most in the show his films and maybe a patron saint of the show Yes, sure. He's keeping it going. Like we worship at the church of Jerry Butler. He pays you more. He pays you more than serious Yes, very much so I will say Jerry Butler made a video for this show He knows where his bread is butler So I think we are we are always predisposed to enjoy a Jerry Butler But you're coming in you don't have to like a Jerry Butler. I just want you to know if you feel this audience This audience is I mean pro-j pro-gb pro-gb. Oh, yeah Just wanted to let you know that this audience is chat gbt We did get a little of The butt and butler here too with that that scene where I feel like they were like we need to add like some Sexy things but it's like oh the cops are about to come and get me. I better take off all my clothes I was I'm surprised that none of the cops that came in were like you You don't need to I'm surprised more people just don't do this as a strategy Yeah, me too If I know they're coming for me, guess what you have to look and touch at my dick I'm gonna start doing it if I feel threatened by someone walking behind me done Take my club. I got I know exactly what you want if I don't like the second opinion songs. I'm gonna be Take it off. Take it off Um I think that this movie if you don't like this movie if you do like this movie It teaches a very important lesson which is always use the people on your door because Yeah, that's all that's all it would have taken none of the movie happens if someone uses if if the people gets used and it's like I don't know Oh, it's a man standing with a bat cocked Like he opens that door the bat wasn't from bub behind it was like it was like flintstones over the shoulder like Can I ask a quest? Yeah, I have a couple of questions. Yeah, sure and it's about our two baddies I can't remember their names right now aims and taxidermy jesse plemins Or or imploding william foresight Drowned to philipsy morholman R.i.p. R.i.p But my question is about the baddies. Sure. Are they there? Purposefully well, I do we find out is this a random? No, because he says to the guy the tagline right the fate tagline Which implies to me that he's involved with someone that jerry has A done questionable action by the way that I love that. Is it ever can I they never Label it. I was wondering if I'd missed a like one of the many ends that are yet to be tied Truly because for them to just it is the equivalent of Alfie Allen killing john wicks dog, right? It's like why Why you can take a spoiler from john wick one hang on? Or you guys know that's why he does everything get out john wicks dog dies in one you bring up a good in the prestige He's playing twins Dude dumbledore dies He's not playing twins. He is twins he's playing Just like danie de vito and honor schwarzer. I'll tell you about the usual suspects, but I'd rather tell you about kevin spacey where he ended up Um, I I wasn't sure were they there because of some Vendetta against jerry butler. Was it just random it would seem like at one point There's moments where they confront each other where someone could say like See like but they don't they don't do it. I mean he says like you can't escape fate But without any backstory that's a tough line. It's like You well if you have kids and a wife, they will get murdered and raped That's fate. Is that is that it you got out you started a family, but we're gonna pull you back in I don't think that those you think those people can't run. It's like you still did all that that hitmaning Yes, yes, but it seems like he's feeling like leaders of third world countries. It wasn't like he was taking care of business And he's also a tech they keep saying he's a tactician a brain engineer and engineer and the brain He's not like now the first scene we do meet him. He is dealing with explosives at the kitchen table While his daughter is drawing Oh, it's so good. But you bring up. I love that they try and make him nerdy at the beginning. Yeah, it's oh my god It's like yeah, all of a sudden he jerry butlers rick moranis. Yeah If we put his hair down, he'll look real nerdy. Yeah, because he even does stuff like oh, but I Also couldn't figure out what is the time frame of this movie 10 years past and it's very hard to tell what yeah Yeah, they say 10 years Yeah, wait because when do wait wait Because I'm not kidding when do those 10 years when Jamie Foxx comes home from the first trial He's like, let me talk to my daughter and regina is pregnant and then The daughter is like playing in a cello concert. It takes 10 years. That's the same daughter. Yeah Yeah It takes yeah Okay, okay, that helps me. No, but I that helps that does help me because yes, because I was like when the fuck did he dig this tunnel When did he dig the tunnel? He had 10 years. Yeah, okay. Yeah 10 year. Okay. Okay. Okay. Holy shit that fucked me up Yeah, I wrote so many times. Wait, what's the time frame? Where didn't he just didn't this? I was so confused. Well the amount of times that I wrote down what year was this movie made This is a great everyone has flip phones, but also everyone has iPhones. Yes Smartphones and landlines and landlines and iPhones and old school recording tech. I'm pretty sure I saw a sidekick. Yeah An iraq 2 bomb robot. Yes the year iraq 2 The empire the empire strikes back of iraq wars. I was gonna tell the robot look janky wasn't from the first one 2009 2009 Wow, it's you know, it's it's right in that moment said earlier You you mentioned john wick paul. Yeah, and like I thought it had way more john wick than seven Right, but was john was the first john wick made by the time this movie was made. Let's see. I mean, I don't think I think it's 2012 2012 because or later. That's crazy to me that John wick the keanu Reeves Yeah, who says like two words in that whole franchise is more likeable For revenge murders for his dog Then gerard butler for the murder and raping of his wife and child. Yeah I Yeah, I I mean this is the tricky thing though because this is a movie Where I feel like there's a lot of big dick energy between both stars because like jayme fox is like well I'm not a bad guy and you're and gerard butler's like but I gotta also be sympathetic like they're too sympathetic the movie that it reminded me of was the fugitive Okay for a lot of it before he goes to prison obviously how when you saw the fugitive were you on mushrooms? Yes How does this reminder the fugitive that idea of that the injustice of now obviously he's not blamed for it But the injustice of the the inciting incident is his wife and daughter are murdered Justice is not served and now he's not made culpable, but nonetheless. I thought he was Jerry Is what I mean in this movie But nonetheless and it then becomes about the two of them on opposite sides But like jayme fox is outmatched in every single way at every single turn Yeah, go ahead. Sorry and when they meet the guy in the subway and he's like I'm a spy. He's I love that guy. Yeah, he's not even everybody what I am this movie has so many bad writing I wrote them down so many bad writing so many bad writing and it has that's the only way to say it has so many bad Right. It has so many bad writing. I think this podcast is so many bad writing and that and that comes from someone who does so much Oh wait, was that a quote? I do so much good reading so I jean heels about bad writing. I know bad writing But there's so much there's so many lines like she's 10 years old rick It's like, okay Well when lezlie bibb says i'm 35 and you're like, well, it doesn't seem like she's like and I've devoted a lot of my life I'm like, wait, are she supposed to be way younger? But what she's saying is I've given up on having certain things because I believe in this job Which is to say at 35. She thinks she's like washed. Well, that's what I was trying to she's all right P and then she does that. Wait a minute That's lezlie bibb. Yeah, that's Holy shit, honestly, I thought it was the girl from suits Not megan marco megan marco No, I know megan marco From suits. There's a tall. Yeah, I know you're talking about. Yes. No, that's I was like, oh, I guess it never happened for her How much? How much suits are you watching? Oh, um The what the la one or? I'm I'm trying to get a petition to get the la one back. Um, I remember that's best I remember that's that's the that's the uh, that's the cupratino one Suits for whatever reason like someone in the marketing department of usa was like, I got it What if we infiltrate every dry cleaner and make all the uh, the dry cleaner like hangers have suits ads on them For a year all my dry cleaner only had suits ads When I ever pick up my dry cleaning and I was like, this is great I loved it. Um, how many people is that working on? How many people are like, what should we put on tonight? Right? You know what? I just got from the dry cleaner my my winter coat. We should watch suits It looks good That are like, you know and especially if the dry cleaner does a great job like wow, they got that stain out of the shirt That just suits is probably as good as them getting out stain out And they were right. Um, I mean that's how That's how fx got me to watch the bear I was walking I was walking down the street a wild bear was chasing me And then all the hell is someone someone was like Chuck yeah, and the bear turned around was totally trained and then they were like watch the bear season five Coming on effect like that. That's fx. That's fx is always about being creative in the good marketing Yeah, they just walk around too. I hear it just screaming at people behind behind And when you like when you turn around they're like watch the bear And then I just say yes chef Which is also what I say in bed. Well, yeah, that's because the other person's yelling behind Good to have you back pal Happy to be here. I love that the I'm sorry. I was gonna say I go up and I kiss older women on the mouth And I say watch the golden bachelor But you're getting paid for that I'm not getting paid for it yet, but I think if they get enough viewers they might reach out. I love it I love that as a strategy Great. Um, I loved that the the movie is moving at a sprint And that's a little bit why I didn't clock the time No, I didn't either because it's so condensed The first scenes are the ones we described the home invasion the rape and murder of the the wife and daughter And I will say that that home invasion scene like you have barely met Anyone to care and then it's like bam boom boom and we're watching this thing Transpire that is brutal like it's never like no, it's a brutal tough. It's a tough first sea and there's and it's the cold open Yeah, the titles and credits are after this live from new york it's saturday night And I think I think it's a hard it's a hard thing. I think I'm sorry, but like I do have an issue with the young girl She should have run away. She was standing there. Oh, I hate it when I I hate it when a young kid is so in shock. They have to stand there like I got a seven year old if I say stand there He's at the deli I've never seen my kids stand that still Uh, but I think what you really want and this is like the core problem with the movie is you need jayme fox to be Unasshole like he's got to be like who cares man, but he's too sympathetic. He's like hey, dude I know your wife and kid were murdered and Because he's nice you're like well, you're nice well and we also get insight into his family life And he and so in every way We're we're on his side in a way that I agree. He should have been an absolute prick But he is but he comes across I think caring like he is it for sure. Yeah, the movie wants him to be the protagonist Right, I believe I don't think they understood that jerry butler would be so charismatic and that we would root for him unequivocally Today's podcast is brought to you by squarespace whether you're just starting out or scaling up your business Squarespace is the all-in-one website platform designed to help your business stand out and succeed online Now I love squarespace because it gives me everything I need You can offer services and get paid all in one place from consultations to events and experiences Showcase your offerings with a customizable website designed to attract clients and grow your business get paid on time with professional On-brand invoices and online payments. You can streamline your workflow. 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I was like what did I miss where ben franklin? It's who is it? It's not ben franklin. William who? William, William Penn William Penn William hatt William Penn hatt Penn I see you see how more of a friend of his brother gary I I but like it's just you know, it's just all those tropes are like so So there and he he is so dead in the law scenes And then you do get this little glimpse of jayme fox when he's like with regina, you know, and he's like he's making jokes Talking to the baby. Yeah, he's like do you know you make better grilled cheese than your mom? Yeah, it's like and he's really and he's like he's he's alive. You know what I mean? And then the law scenes are just like Whoa, well his stuff with jerry. I wanted them to have that kind of friction intention chemistry Yes, that because they are going head to head. Well as you're talking about you want that tension Why are they holding jerry butler in the Hannibal Lecter cell? It's an it's an octagon What is going on there were guards on the roof that is by the way that is terrible use of that space That is like 14,000 square feet of prison and by the way all open to get confessions like it's an airy Like I kept being like why did he turn the thing off if there are guards all around? Yep Watching him. There's so many weird inconsistencies in The logic of the whole thing because also the skinny little dude who is standing in the door frame and like He there's enough dna evidence on that guy, but the guy who literally Raped and murdered and touched every one of them. He's the only one who's touched everyone. Yeah, nothing from him I've seen enough law and order and billions to understand how the attorney general's office works. Oh, but you don't watch suits Absolutely. No, I respect myself Okay, gary billions Oh man billions. I'm not gonna lie. His name is billion. Wait. No, his name is what his name is bill yuns William yuns. Are you being? No, no, no, by the way, they they kind of just like lie about how that evidence is like Oh, yeah, you clean the crime scene weird Again, he touched every single one of them was all over them. Why not flip the other guy against the real baddie? I couldn't figure that out because it would be harder to see jerry butler kill the skinny guy Didn't do that much, but then he does anyway, so it doesn't really make a difference. He kills everybody Everybody in what world Are the lawyers watching an execution? Yeah Oh, well these lawyers do everything what world not one guy goes. I just came because he has no family Yeah, like what are they selling? Where that was his lawyer? Yeah, that was the bad guy's yeah, and then the other there's like other people in the back row is like was this on tkts I couldn't get into oh mary, so I guess I'm seeing this execution because I'm seeing the execution of the less guilty one in this Small trial in pennsylvania, and then jayme fought like leslie bebs like i've never seen one before he's like that's no problem It's like he's going to sleep. This is fucked up. No, you're watching a man get killed. So minimize Can you imagine working at that firm and you're like, uh Heading home early tonight jayme fox like nah I'm gonna go check out an execution your daughter's cello recitals tonight I gotta watch a guy gotta watch an execution. I gotta go watch the life go out of a man's eyes and it's like And then the way they cut it well by the way, they're cutting between the recital And them and the the death penalty as if these are the two events I wanted I wanted it so bad And i'm gonna jump to the end at the end of that movie when that daughter played that cello I wanted that cello to explode on the lab so bad When when they did it when the evog and did it when the judges cell phone headshots are the best I was I I was like Welcome to like the legendary status on this podcast. This movie is incredible. I don't know if the I don't know if the phone was a rifle The line of dialogue she delivers right before it is i'm a judge. I can do whatever I want But but what no you can't you are bound by the law And that when you talk about some of the bad writing that is exactly the example of bad writing because they're in the middle of a trial It's all to set up this one moment in the middle of the trial Jamie fox like oh, let me take this That's the craziest thing you could ever do and you're like how many times do I have to tell you in a murder trial? You can't pick up your phone right so Okay, I guess we'll buy that So that's all set up Just so When her phone rings I thought you said don't pick up the phone Like well, this is a completely different scenario. You're in private chambers. There's nothing going on. You're having a casual conversation Also, why would you be that flip to the judge who you want on your side? Everyone treats the judge in two seconds. It's like hey judge. How's it going? They you take it up the ass like what what what what just happened what just happened Right. We are like why are we angry this woman feels very like rational? She doesn't seem like she gets upset She's getting the short end of the stick and again is the gun in the phone or was there a sniper? I couldn't figure that device out. I think I think it was a phone gun I think it was a phone gun a flip phone gun. Yeah, I'll tell you right now There's a reason I would never have it. Why is jayme fox? Well obsessed with dvds Oh, we'll get the dvd. We'll get and then and then he says it five Times and then says it as a joke in the law from to someone like right before he's like oh, what about our dvd? I was like what does he have stock in this medium? Like what what I think is going on is that Jamie fox has missed many of his children's performances And he has sent someone to tape it and then get a dvd of it so we can watch it wherever he is Because the girl says oh, there's the the video of my recital is here right? It's delivered by a messenger. It's like oh yep my school recital on dvd. Here's the other thing Don't answer the door But at this point in the movie Jamie fox he should know better than anyone his entire family should be in alaska right now But the mini one person gets killed everybody should go away family Excepts a dvd being delivered. She is a young kid in like elementary school. Like you're not getting Who's delivering dvds? Like uh, yeah, we we we taped it. We burned it to a dvd. We made a bunch of copies and we're gonna hand deliver it It'll be to your house tomorrow night. Can you take it? Like that to me is jayme fox shit jayme fox is like get that transferred to dvd. I watch it my trailer And I felt that's some improvising. I mean but again because that's the only time he's alive Right in the movie is when he's making some small thing about like, you know, I'm a good dad Like yeah the want is he he is trying so hard to be good the first moment that you meet him He's sticking up for leslie bibb that you know in the next yeah, that was a weird moment Because there there was sexual tension. Yeah between him and leslie bibb if it wasn't for chester, right? I Kept thinking we never I kept thinking chester was somehow gonna be I thought chester was the guy Behind leslie bibb a couple times. I thought maybe chester was gonna be the accomplice to jerry butler No, I thought maybe bibb was gonna be jerry butlers I was looking for connections that at the end the movie was like jk jerry butlers his own friend Yeah, that yeah at which point killed jerry butler He has nobody else working on his behalf I literally when colmeny they have that scene where in the colmeny is like waiting outside, uh, the prison. I was like, oh He's sense. Yep. He's the accomplice. I was like, oh no, he's just there He just is colmeny the the one is colmeny the one that looks like, uh michael madsen in an open casket Yeah, I think so. Yes the police detective The uh I Do want to I mean also the the cold weather and the sound was this shot like every white person looks more pale than they need to It's like they all look gray. Um, well, they look great because they're in Philly Why and I guess I as someone who has not attended many an execution, um Do they put everybody out like they're in the crucifixion pose like arms Like let's move the table and the standing I can answer this my brother-in-law is a lawyer They literally like they're racking him up like dealing on amusement park rides like In dead man walking. He's in that position So and I don't know if it's just movies that are like, oh anybody dying it by execution is a christlike character Oh, or if that's really how it's done. Does anybody have experience? I don't think they're launching Morgan. Are you here? Morgan is here tonight. Morgan is here. Yep. Have you talked to him already? There he is. Give it up for Morgan Oh, there he is Can we get house lights? Morgan you better have some details. You better you better have trained to be a lawyer Morgan Because we're gonna need your expertise. Are you a lawyer Morgan? Okay But I'll ask you one more question If this was a dnd campaign would it be believable? Okay, you'd have to have a really bad dm running it. Um We love morgan One of my favorite things in the movie is what okay? I'm gonna start by saying one of my most disappointing parts of the movie is when jerry gets put in jail It it gives him less momentum And all I want is for him to be skyrocketing forward Like he is in plane or like he is in Candahar or like he is in greenland or like he is in any of the other Geostorm, uh any of the other phenomenal movies falling. Oh any of the as the bannon any of the mic bannon movies the bannonverse Absolutely, but when he goes you're talking about steve bannon, right? I know what you're reading I He really he gets kind of stuck in a in a physical space. So he does so much I love when he gets del frisco's that there's a del frisco's waiter. There's a waiter there There's a truck. There's a white jacket in waiter from del frisco's in the prison Like in india and the funny thing about that is he didn't request the waiter Like he just requested the meal he was like want to stake with all the fixed things and they're like Maybe we should bring the the waiter and I remember I thought that that was the accomplice for a little because he does this weird thing Where he goes day? Hey Garcione take 30 percent or whatever which is also like the guy brought a stake all the way to death row. You think he could like He's not even on death row. He's dead that's solitary, right? No, no, no, no, no because that's what he kills Post Malone by the way Again not quite sure about this. That's how you time this movie out. No face tattoos on anyone Yeah, truly I do think that you're I agree with what you're saying about not having that Drar butler energy, but I do want to play the scene which he does say the titular line. This is clip six Um, this is like the freak out moment with the judge wherever again everyone attacks the judge clip six Uh your honor. I'm a law abiding citizen. Boom. I'm just a regular guy I am not a flight risk And this is my first alleged offense And the prosecution has not presented one single piece of evidence against me It's a slippery slope your honor Haven't we seen the result of such violations both internationally and domestically case in point would be davie mcdonough docket number 041325 I am actually inclined to agree with you, mr. Schult the state has failed to establish a compelling basis for its motion and I will grant bail in the amount Your honor, I will caution you not to do that Thank you Excuse me. No, I don't think I will excuse you You see this is what I'm talking about. You were about to let me go. Are you kidding me so much reaction This is why we're here in the first place You think I don't remember who you are lady I would tread carefully mr. Sheldon. Well, how carefully should I tread because apparently I just killed two people And you were about to let me walk right out that door How misguided are you? I freed you a couple of bullshit legal precedents and there you go. You jump on it like a bitch you need Folks you all hang out on you mr. Sheldon. You will be held in contempt of this court Mad men and murderers back on the street. You're too busy treating the wall like it's a fucking assembly line Any idea what justice is? Whatever happened to right of court Whatever happened to right and wrong whatever happened to the people Failed and I whatever happened to justice and I bet you take it up the fucking ass That's my new acting monologue. Whenever I have to do an audition for anything now I would love it if that's in the trailer, but there's like a record scratch noise where he did that when he turns and is like And it just becomes such an asshole, but like so good. I mean he's the best struggling with that irish accent. Oh First of all Whatever And it's like Bleeding out in that monologue Like I like the choice that schwarznecker eventually made where it's like no no i'll just gonna have the austrian accent I'm never gonna try to hide it. I don't understand why he can't just be Shrek why who cares basically he basically now is he now he's just he just does shrek and that that sometimes there's like a Little wink him and statham now are basically like doesn't matter what citizen a citizen of what country they are They have the accent. Okay, I prefer that. How did he know this so you're telling so this is 10 years later, right? How did he know that he would get the same da the same judge and he's a brain that is crazy Well, I think that maybe they were like, you know, you get dibs on it Like oh if all the murders connect you get dibs you collect them all kind of a thing like, you know, it's a pokemon go situation But he is like he In that scene He is working his ass off and he makes sense like he does like his plan Not the way he executes his plan, but it's like, yeah Bad guys get off I'm gonna show you how bad you are and the whole movie is predicated on that end-seeingers like well You did learn your lesson. 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How do they decide in prison movies who gets short sleeve Jump suits and who I think you get I think I think you get your off side. That's a gb choice Oh, I think you get to decide when you enter when you enter. Oh, see I think it's an actor choice I feel like there was definitely a fitting day Oh, yeah, where they had the orange ones the green ones that they're all there and Gb's going through it like i'm not really a real to show my guns, you know like yes Are we what's the point of casting me? By the way, he is he this is definitely skinnier draw our butler too. He looks fucking great Yeah, and you can see it when he gets naked for no reason He oh, yeah, I mean and this is all right So it's also you can also date the movie because he does the naked scene But is very clearly not on any kind of steroids right? Right. Yeah, and that kind of a scene now the actor would be jacked on steroids would be hgh'd out like Yeah, we've seen bold-looking like a tomato But you know like here's a big tomato energy tomato energy jacked tomato He should never be jacked because he is a low impact kinetic operations guy He's low impact kinetic. Yeah low impact kinetic operations, you know, it's five stuff That was such a crazy ally. Okay There are so many crazy things that are said and it's like In the beginning like when the guy holds the gun and tries to shoot him and then like there's little Like needles in the gun. Oh, I love that moment. He's like that's a puffer fish needle. Yeah, I was like That's a puffer fish. It's also great when he's doing the a different voice for the blonde haired cock I have that and then another one for the guy pushing the thing which is like slightly racist And I love that that guy like hey, nando What's up there? Yeah, he's like he's like olah Coma olah. Oh, yeah. Oh no today has been local Mia studia in the burrio did he kill that guy? Like did he have to kill that guy? Yes. That sucks for that guy. Why are they why are they letting a janitor into a solitary prison cell? Gotta clean up. No, no that was in town hall Oh, that was in town. How did he get into prison? Oh the tunnel tunnel. Got it. How did he get out of prison? I I I you know what? I think I was confused that I thought he was coming out of a jail So that was before the reveal that he has built an underground city That he can move around and oh, he's got train tracks under there. It is Lighting it like like honestly, I believe the cartels have seen this movie and are like hang on This looks this is a good idea Maybe we should law abiding citizen drugs into the country when they first find the tunnel It looks cartoonishly old-timey like it looks like duck tails Right like they're gonna like it's like one of those things where like one guy pushes down the lever You guys expect to see I expected a chase on one of those at the end when like Gerard in the cart like That would have been incredible like like indiana junks too. Yes I this guy is so once we understand that this movie is like he's got the tunnel system This means that every night he's sneaking out like and no one ever He's living in the lawyer. He's doing all of the hijinks of the movie. He's doing outside of his cell Which means in 2009 they have no cameras in this prison No, they have plenty because he's hooked up to every one of them because they go look Right, but right, but he's got pillows under the thing. They think it's pillows, but I'm a kinetic engineer I think I know how to fake it. I love Ferris Bueller and I fucking do it like that This is the easiest part. You just put the pillows under the blanket The next part as well. It gets challenging But I guess like the the the way that this movie like kind of thinks about prison is that five o'clock They stop really watching the prisoners like you know, it's like well, it's it's the end of business day We don't have to watch a person at night at night Like it's because he's also coming back in so at one point someone have to be like, do you hear that? Yeah, it's kind of like a little door open. What's crazy. It's probably nothing Well, there's only one person in there and there's no way in or out so any sound Oh, you're gonna worry about everything Carl the movie is The movie is big in scope, right at scale it it's about justice and it's about this and that Big big themes and ideas, but it's really only about like five or four people Like there's no there's so few ansolary. We don't know any of the other prisoners We don't know any of the other lawyers beyond bib and bruce mcgill the legend like we don't know We don't get any interesting side characters almost like when that guy comes in and he's the spy I'm like great. Give me some insight into this world. I want to know where these guys. Nope. Not at all It's so crazy too because every role Is the most talented character actor in the history of cinema. I mean the tree this everyone's great This movie could have been called character actors making their nut for the year Because it's like every one of them is like that guy's amazing And you have to suffer and watch bruce mcgill get blown up in a car like and sometimes he's just seated like Like two seats down from the action not even having lines. I was like Give bruce mcgill the day off My my favorite moment in the film is like it's 6 a.m. You'll die And so clearly they're working through the night. They decide well, we got to work in the print We got to work in the prison. We got we got to work in the prison. Of course jerry knows that's the only option So they're working at the prison and then clearly around like it feels to me like around 5 45 a and they're like Well, we didn't figure it out and then they all just stare at the clock All right, but I love any moment we're gonna die and then they just wait until 6 a.m. I'm like, oh, we didn't die Well, I guess he's a liar Boom boom boom boom Well, they there was very little like do you think he did anything outside? Like no one even it was just like well, I guess we were wrong and also there's so little they don't discuss amongst themselves anything Like with the very with the exception only of bib at one point saying to jayme fox Would you do it any differently? Right and he says absolutely not he is Unwavering throughout and that is a failing of the movie that the movie doesn't chip away at him And make him question himself and at the very end he's like I don't do deals with murderers And jerry's like yes, you learned your lesson. I'm like what is up again? And that was the thing it was like he he needed to to have that arc you got to change I will say that I did like the part where uh, I think it was bruce mcgill goes He's saving you for last. Yeah, no shit like like and it was like and it was like Oh You think it's because i'm jayme fox But it's also like clearly like we'll kill everyone around you and then you'll get to what like he wants to but they did It does make sense when you think of the way they they kind of Did the worst most gruesome killing right off the bat right like the first murder we see jerard do is Cutting off some guy's eyelid so you can watch him cut off his own penis like it's like Wildly graphic and by the way, he didn't just cut off his penis. He cut off his balls first. Yeah, why didn't he use different? Yeah, why were the balls tougher than the dick? He was like I had to use four steps for the dick and then I had to use a Some a different one for the balls. I was like seems like it's in the same kind of honestly everything down there's so soft Yeah, like what are we doing? Why a butter knife could take it off? Get it with your hands I imagine at one point You must be like I know you want this guy to feel everything but you're like, I think I did it though, right? Like And now it's the part where I touch your dick. I'll put this carrot up your asshole. Yeah What would have been amazing is if somehow that guy um Darby I think his name is um if he was the last one Yes, he builds up that would have been that's the person who most deserves Justice or the the the violent ends that he meets right, but he's first so now I'm satiated I'm like great. He did it, but now he's like no Now I have to take down the system right and I'm like wait. Are you the khalisi breaking the wheel? What is this? I don't understand. Well, they they even have that scene where we've already done a scene Of them in the interrogation room and then it comes back And he's like I also want a steak and jayme fox like I think we did this Yeah, I think we did this and yeah, I already gave you a bad. He's like no, no, no, but I've got more information jayme fox I don't care. He's like well, you should care. He's like, okay now I care like like what what? Well, this is also the moment in the film where the movie does not know the difference between a cop and a lawyer Because jayme fox is like we're going to get in the helicopter boys I'm like you're how far away was bill o'reilly or whatever his name was. It's like there he is Leading police into crime scenes. Oh, like I'm like, wait. Is he a cop? He's like I got this so much so that at the end He's in the cell with a gun. Yeah, and I'm like you would not be here my guy. That's a crime Jamie. I hope you have a permit for that Jamie fox also did not like Even ignited like 10 degrees south five minutes 62 and he's like got it. I know I was like wait our minutes How we measure longitude and latitude he didn't even time that's that distance Well, I want to go out to the crowd. I want to talk to you all can I yeah go yeah, please Can we get house lights and then also if you're out there and you are a district attorney Here in this town we have one in the front Paul Yeah, this is a district attorney right here. Okay, hold on All right, so hi welcome. Thank you for representing We did say that if you have some experience you clearly do you you work here in the very cold hallway As it seems like because also in this movie, they're clearly outside But inside like their cold breath is coming out of their mouth in like an opening scene. Um, all right, so tell me what you got My name is Mackenzie. Uh, I just wanted to confirm that actually this is exactly what my job is like every day You like great. Okay, great. So are you like leslie bibba? Are you like where are you at? Are you more jayme fox me more leslie bibba? Are you more bruce? You giving it all away at 35 I am 33. What's your favorite execution you've ever seen? She said that she's 33. She's got a bunch of cats Like yeah, maybe would you have made a deal like this? Like the way that jayme fox did. Oh, yes I'm not sure how jayme fox is going to continue to be an assistant district attorney because not making deals with murderers is really unworkable Sorry, everyone. Well, he becomes the district attorney in a small room Very quickly when she says grab me the bible No, he becomes mayor mayor mayor. No, wait, what district attorney district attorney. Oh, sorry Gary pen he becomes Gary pen Is holding the bible in that right? Yes, and he's mayor holding the bible with a lifeless look like The only character actor not cast in this movie wait and bruce mcgill He's taking bruce mcgill's position, right? Yeah. Okay. Now. So my question at that point I was like is jayme fox helping is he the guy? Yeah, that would have been great because he wanted the promotion Which would have been cool. Not the case So so making deals with murderers is what you're all about Um, if you listen to fox news, I think they would tell you that's what we're up to so No, but honestly like the criminal justice system plea bargaining. It's kind of all built on that We can get in a whole discussion. But you know great. Give it up for mcgill Great work. Thank you All right, there's been a lot of energy over here, which means good question or utter destruction. Here we go Let's see. Let's see. All right. Hi. How are you? My name is gretta. First of all I listened to your episode in dedication to avril on tuesday. I was making pancakes in my Kitchen for breakfast and it made me cry. It was beautiful. So my yes So my question is we touched on it a little bit earlier during um, gerard's tirade at the judge during his bail hearing He kind of punctuated that whole thing with I bet you take it up the fucking ass I believe was for his words and I would like to know A what's the problem with that and b why is this such an insult? I love this. Wait, what was what was the b? What was the g? Why is that an insult? Oh? 2009 yeah, 2009 This is 2009. This is before anal was normalized gay panic Yeah, because why wouldn't it wouldn't it have been great if he was like, I bet you take it up the ass and she was like I do but you're still out of order and what's wrong with that and what's wrong with that? I'm a judge I could do whatever I want Uh ring ring ring. Oh How how my phone is blowing up What's your name? What's your question? Uh, my name is jenny and not really a question kind of like a second opinion For everybody sure When my husband and I watch a movie I play a game where I pause it and I go Do you want to know what the ending is? Okay, and he either tells me yes or no Last night he uh, we both liked my ending a lot better. Okay. Whoa. Wait. So let's hear your ending Now, so here's what I thought was going to happen I thought jarard butler was going to blow everybody up kill everybody and then frame jayme fox Me too great and I thought that what was going to really happen was First I thought it was leslie bibb and then right after I said this she blew up so not her So then I was like, like off the bat like yeah, I was like no, I thought she said no, no wait I thought leslie bibb was going to then Take his job like jarard butler was going to get him in jail frame him And then she was going to have to be like We need somebody to pay for this and he's going to give us testimony And you know and I Oh with a murderer See now I agree with this because why send the dvd to jayme fox's house. I agree right and it was like and I thought Oh, they're gonna find the dvd in his house All the evidence because they just had finished saying that he records everything And then they were in the judge's chamber right before she like right where um Where she like they said all this crazy shit and he thought it all on tape, but you know he did So it was like, oh, he's gonna frame him now. I thought so too. Well, there we go. You get hired I like that and also for those of you Who are going to come next with questions? Tell us the little games you and your spouse play Yeah All right, tell us about those little games I don't want to answer your question until you peek back the curtain until your own little oh, we play a little game Where I pause the movie dot dot dot. All right Hi, uh, what's your name and your question? Hey, i'm dan. I'm actually in this movie. Whoa Dan Dan Dan Dan Dan Dan Dan Dan Dan Dan Dan Dan Dan Dan Dan Give it up for Dan Dan taking the morgan crown morgan. I'm so sorry Dan what did you do in this movie? So it's not in any recognizable way because I was calm meanie's body double Oh It's great. I'm so sorry. I said all that Dan is a very good-looking man. He looks in great shape. He's obviously been taking care of yourself For the listener dan does not look like he's no I would want to see a picture of myself in 2009 either, you know So so there's a shot where they're first looking into the hole like the cave Yeah, and they're shining their flashlights and it's my shoulder and my arm shining the flash I love that. That's great. Nice. That's great The the better part of this story is those are not gerard butler's buns. Oh Wow, I told you second. Are they yours? No, okay. No, but I was there when they shot the body double. Yeah doing the buns thing All right, what was the energy like on set anything that you saw that was interesting there any tensions any yeah What do you got? So, you know, they put the Cover on his we're still in the butt on his junk and oh this seems to be the You can also speak generally to the experience of being on the movie. Yeah, so I have an explanation really stuck with dan I I have an explanation for why he gets naked. Oh, thank you. Yeah, that was the only part of the movie that made sense to me Because they tried to explain it in that part of the shoot that they were like He gets naked So that the cops can see he's not armed Oh, so they won't just immediately shoot him. Got it. Okay. Well, I guess there's other ways to do it But sure give it up for dan Great job A tour of thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Great work. I just I just saw someone go. I was in it too No, I'm gonna All right, so all right. Here we go. Hi. What's her name? Hi, my name is will Will you were in this movie? Yes, I was in I did nine days on this as a prison guard. Oh, wow Were you there for the the del Frisco stabbing scene? Yes, I was and they had yeah It was originally going to be a rack of lamb. I do remember that really Talk about worrying about the wrong thing The director liked the uh, the restaurant so much. They had their they worked it into the script. Yeah, that's not hard to imagine Yeah, they had the after party for the premiere at del Frisco's here in philly. Wait, there's a del Frisco's here as well Yes, okay. Is it open late? It's right down the block So i'm in the hallway when they bring the mattress in and I improv and I point my night stick out and because of that I didn't get a line when they put him in a cell They took the line away from me because I wouldn't have been there But it worked out because if I did I would have gone to del Frisco's and instead I went to the philly film fest party and I met My wife Yeah Well That's amazing two kids I've married 11 years beautiful actress as well and any bits that you guys do together any Any little games you want to tell us about nicknames will take if you are if you have been in this movie You are going to get preferential treatment. You're in this movie. No, okay Well, paul goes upstairs I will say that I knew someone who worked at del frisco's in new york Who said that um who was like a server there and said that multiple times a year Del Frisco's in new york big like Power row power lunch like alpha guys would go there and multiple times a year Some guy with choke on a steak Go to the bathroom in too embarrassed to ask for help or tell their friends and they would find them dead in the bathroom proud men Dying choking on steak because they're too afraid to ask for help And you know it together guys I am in the balcony Hello balcony monsters. All right Wait paul. Yes There's a bigger balcony. Oh, I know okay I'm gonna get up there. I think right get up there. Okay. Do I come back down to you? Hi. What's your name? What's your question? Hi, I'm rachel. Um, so wikipedia said this movie was edited down from an nc 17 It was already pretty bloody so i'm curious I know the answer to that. It's the stabbing in the uh in the jail cell the rack of ribs seen It was very bloody, but it was more bloody But that's and bloody enough to get an nc 17. That's insane Well, then he took the thing and ate his dick in there too. Okay. Okay He kept cutting off everyone's dick Let me come through this aisle. He used the guy's dick as a as a weapon For the rest of the movie. They had to change it to a steak. Well, well, we didn't see he was down in that tunnel There was a bunch of dick just so many It was a dick tunnel. Hi. What do you got? It's john and paul. I loved your book. Oh, thank you so much. I appreciate you It's really meaningful But I just wanted to say like this movie is what would happen with batman if he saw his Wife and daughter raped and murdered All right, well, don't we ought to get upset that's what the premise of the movie is wait That is we've talked about that happening multiple times and you guys just reacted like what? I like it. I like that. This is the origin story of batman So, yeah, this is philly's batman is gerard butler Make sense here. Take a We're running out of water in the bit cave By the way, that should be the shirt gerard butler with a batman cow saying philly's batman. Yes. Yeah That's a pretty great It's good until we get a cease and desist from dc So buy them quick They'll be collectors items I never I've worked out with the devil in the pale moonlight I'm going up What I was going to ask when paul goes up was the Uh jay b fox going everywhere as a lawyer did remind me of tom cruise going everywhere as a doctor and eyes wide shut I feel like these movies could that could be a similar universe And they meet up on collateral That's that where do I know you from it is crazy that this is the same actor from collateral That's why I kept thinking while I was watching it's like this that's jango unchained. Yeah, they're the same person like I'm in the upper balcony Fuck this Is very high. That's like Very high up here. Wow. Okay anybody in this level been in the movie you were All right I love how the audience has now kind of come to grips with a lot of people are going to be in the movie like it's losing Losing its luster All right. Hi. How are you good? It was technically in my car that was in the movie. Hey that counts That makes sense for the upper balcony People down here were in the movie People up there my car was in the movie In the aerial shot you can see the roof of my house So to be to be fair, that's how he met his mechanic What uh, what scene was your car in? I was in the parking lot of the prison. Oh, wow. Okay. So it was a featured car. What kind of car So my uh, my ex's dad at the time was running a company where he was like renting Out cars to movie sets and he asked if I wanted my car to be in the new jayme fox movie. So I was like, sure why not? Yeah, and then when you found out it was a drark butler movie too, you're like, well then definitely Yeah, all right. Any question? What kind of what kind of car was it? Oh, it was like a dodge minivan pretty cool You're gonna get a minivan. They'll get a christ of pacificum Um, I knew it was going to be something memorable because to have someone call you and be like, hey You know that weird piece of shit you drive around I bet a prison guard would drive that can you park that by the prison? By the way, we haven't even talked about the robot shotgun emf device Oh, no, that's not it. It's not it's not a controlled That's not a shotgun at all. It is like a 50 caliber Minigun and and a bazooka and it was just sitting out in the cemetery. No one no one noticed it No one noticed it. Oh, it's rolling around like johnny five out there. Yeah I mean, I have expected someone to say johnny five is alive Hi, what's her name? What's the question? Hi, my name is esmy. Um, I have a question about the murdered little girl. Um, Finally, be cool. Be cool. Yeah, be cool. I like kids She makes a bracelet for her dad and says daddy and she makes a bracelet for her mom that says heather Why do you think that? Wow? Yeah, and you know what? That's one of the another reason I wasn't super on gerard's side at the beginning. I was like This situation ship seems weird It's gonna take me about 10 minutes to get downstairs guys. So keep it going I was thinking if the person that operated the robot gunman was at the premiere of this movie and the like walking the robot gunman down the It was gerard butler. Yeah, but like there was definitely a tech a tech Why was he I guess I was gonna say why is he wearing gloves? But I guess I understand but the gloves look delicate to me They did look yes. Yeah. I almost looked like a woman. I was like, maybe that would be you're he's wearing the gloves Because you'd recognize jerry's hands anywhere Um, a quick fact sausage whiskey pubs All right, so here's some information about the sequel in may 2022 It was announced a standalone sequel was in development the uh 2022. Yep. Wow. Okay. We must have had legs Gerard butler was going to service producer lucas foster was going to return as his role as producer And they were going to revisit these great characters Stating the premise seems even more relevant today than when the original film was released. Okay. Hang on. Hang on Wait, are you saying did you just say gerard butler was going to be in it? Well, or he was a producer Okay, and then and then he goes the filmmaker stated we're going to blow your mind dot dot dot again And then uh while the plot has not been revealed They said that they see this film as a franchise And then in 2025 gerard butler said yeah every now and again we go. Oh, it's a tv show that's happening No, it's a prequel. No, it's a sequel butler laughs. I don't know I would love it. Oh, I don't know what's happening It's a shame because i'm very proud of that movie. It's very good And quote I agree I would watch either a prequel. I mean how they're gonna pull that off. I don't know Um preqles way to go. I would love I would love a prequel where he is like Like a that character a young kinetic engineer like blowing shit up I don't know what or I would love even even more if he somehow survives sitting on the napalm briefcase And he's like half burned up and he comes back two-faced style I love this. Um, you know like a real and I does it again I also hated when they opened that briefcase and that one cop goes napalm. It's like Yeah, he didn't know what the fuck he's looking at. Oh And what's in there is a bunch of goblins wires and yellow liquid like green slime liquid is like napalm Oh, that's napalm so well lit I also like he was able to really figure out that air down to the the minutes when he put that guy underground And I was like that guy could have probably held out 15 more minutes. I think No one gave a ship. They must have really hated bill because they were like bill's dead like yeah, but let's fuck with this guy more And you're telling me they can move that briefcase bomb all the way to the prison without it blowing up like Jerry didn't set in like some sort of switch that's like, oh if this gets moved this gets picked out any Kinetic movement sets it off absolutely not it's old potential and I was rooting for it to blow everybody up Oh, I wanted they should have both died. Yes Oh, oh, you mean jerry and jaymie fox. Oh, that would have been cool great Well, honestly, I want to see regina go off and meet someone. Yeah, she needs to get out of that again I wanted the daughter to blow up at the very end. Yeah, but regina regina needed a new start in new york What did it be great? Tell me this wouldn't have been great Jerry blows up cuts to jaymie fox in the auditorium with his daughter's recital. She's Bam. Yeah That the violin head shots are straight away right No Okay, philly interesting originally Gerard butler was supposed to play the jaymie fox role Oh, interesting and jaymie fox was supposed to play the gerard butler role If you asked gerard butler, he said I Decided to switch parts if you asked jaymie fox. He says I decided to switch parts I would have loved it if if gerard butler played both roles And they are twin brothers prestige style One has an accent the other sort of has an accent All right, obviously we have an opinion about this film, but there are people out there with a different opinion It is now time for second opinions Hi, my name is win Bum bum Let's forget the law We don't need any order Bum bum But bring on the torture So many gruesome deaths unexplained prison beds, how did they not know that people would blow up in those cars? American accents are hard Bum bum, how did this get made? I give it five stars Law and order theme song Love it old school law and order original law and order theme song I didn't realize there was going to be a kill tony portion of this show. Yep Law-abiding citizen has the average review of 4.7 out of five stars. Wow I don't I don't disagree 84 of the 5 725 reviews are five star reviews Carl pierce and 2013 writes gerard butler is in quotes The man What he had to do just to dig that tunnel equipped with anything and everything Completely lit up rail car to haul all that dirt. So here's the question. What happened with all that dirt? Holy shit That's fucking awesome five stars five stars. That's it right there people I love when you I love when you read one, which is like What is what does this person care about? Yeah, the dirt. Wow the dirt Uh as he pulls an underground seat what happened that that I mean, I'm sure he has a little game with his wife Where he says, where do you think all that dirt went? But he still gave it five stars. He loved it. Oh, yeah Love she's like I bet he put it in a dump and he says I bet he put it at the beach and then we fuck I like this movie, babe. It's no Shawshank. You saw what happened with the dirt and Shawshank Uh rap r does not give this five stars, but 10. How is that allowed? I don't know But the title of the review is 10 stars Finally And it starts off like this a good movie for once Oh my god After renting and watching this movie Saturday night, not an hour later. I bought it Who wrote that the guy from january 6th in the buffalo hat That I oh, oh the the Q and on shaman. Yeah This is one of my favorite movies now the acting amazing the story amazing I can't stop thinking about it or stop telling people about it come monday morning I had five people I told to watch this movie By sunday night and every one of them agreed this movie kicks and then it's all written so he doesn't want to be vulgar ass But he wrote it in exclamation point and dollar sense I agree with some of the reviewers that the ending could have been better, but it had to come to an end That review feels like it was written by chris christie This is a must-own movie for movie fanatics like me. It's a mix of seven and maybe death sentence With a little silence of the lambs maybe Amazing five star movie. No 10 stars Unrated edition only available on blu-ray. Fuck you I Trying to force blu-ray discs on us for extra stuff is criminal screw blu-ray And that's all in caps and that's from president donald trump on truth on truth social I would I would believe it if trump tried to appoint jayme fox's character attorney general of the united states The character someone get the bible He's got a 95% conviction rate Mary ann greenlee writes This film was riveting and it shows just how the justice system in this country really is quote-unquote unfair and quote-unquote manipulative And what the character that gerard butler played so brilliantly Is necessary for the rest of us to see Another example of how one man can make a difference He changed jayme fox's character totally around and made him into a new and better man I love this movie so much that the instant I saw it. I had to own it I can watch it anytime that I want and I enjoy it every time Great acting super exciting kudos and accolades to whoever created this movie This film is one of my very favorites and reaches in and touches that part of me that knows that existing Way that the court system is today is not justice at all And we get to experience and get that given The opportunity and experience of what gerard's character had to go through We would do the exact same thing to make the criminals of the world see that there are a whole lot of people out here That if we had the chance and the skills would see that the criminals need to suffer the same way that their victims suffer The criminals of this magnitude Never get to suffer the same way that their victims suffer at their vile and sick ways And in this film we get to vicariously get to have our revenge Button satisfied Great way to avenge a wrongdoing five stars title justice at its finest Holy shit That That is an audition monologue Uh a couple of things that don't make sense in this movie the neuro toxin would have made darby collapse And he would not be able to hold himself upright the grave gerard murder robot would have also knocked out the radios if it was an EMP device. Yeah, that was the problem with the robot Clyde should have had scars when he stripped down naked from being stabbed in the belly Uh, that's true It says uh pre trial suspects are held in county jail not prisons and not max security No corrections officer would give a lawyer a key to an inmate cell Or let a waiter in the prison. Well that goes to this one. Here's a spork Prison guards would never allow a stake bone to enter a jail cell Stake bone they gave him a spork Pennsylvania correctional officers wear gray and black uniforms not white Uh, the district attorney is an elected county official. The mayor has no jurisdiction over the position Nor the authority to appoint one and make decisions regarding the office Pennsylvania does not have wardens And confessions must be given voluntary trading goods for confession is bribery Uh, that's a couple of inconsistencies. Wow incredible and I will say uh, but you know what what is this movie really about? Well, we asked one person who didn't see it to explain it Oh You guys didn't know what law-abiding citizen with jamey fox two x's and jerry butler is about Okay, that's weird. Um, it's a wonderful motion picture. Of course. I haven't seen it, but I will speak on it it's about uh, uh two dear friends who set off on a but on a buddy road trip together from New York City to LA and They uh, one of them is kind of a business a business man a regular nine to five or living that corporate life just clocking in but also fading away Guy faking away losing his life force not a lot going on behind the eyes anymore And that's jamey fox on the other hand we have jerry butler His old friend from college and they're off to they're off to california to see Uh, someone's passed away. I think that they knew and so they're going they're going to There's series of circumstances the f a a, you know cutting back air traffic control. They got to drive Okay, don't don't worry about why And when they set off on this trip what we come to find out is that jerry butler is actually in quite a bit of trouble many gambling debts And he's got a lot of people after him and jamey fox is the law-abiding citizen and doesn't want anything to do with this He is quite laced as they come of course, there's a giant scene that Uh happens when they get to vegas, but i'm not going to Reveal that I want you guys to just enjoy the film, but yet it's so much fun And they go to honor their dear friend their fraternity brother who's passed Uh from from a terrible disease, you know, and they're trying to deal with that too and how precious this life is and so Is this the time for jamey to kind of let his hair down and is this the time for jerry to grow up? Well, we're gonna find that out in law abiding citizen There it is Uh accurate Pretty close pretty close By the way, I would love to watch that movie. I love it. I mean that movie sounds dynamite Um, would you recommend it jason? Hell, yeah I didn't press pause once I was just enjoying I was letting it wash over me like a cool scottish breeze Um, yeah, I had a blast. I thought it was fun as hell Uh, yeah as a joke, okay I was uh I was on the the regional train from new york today coming up here was packed and I was I was on the acela I missed I missed my drove And as I sat next to a gentleman sat next to me he looked over and he goes good flick And I said sir come to the miller theater tonight He's like nope. I'm taking ten more stops to baltimore. Um I like this movie. I like it. I think it could have been better and I feel like that is Really the big thing is like this was a movie that was supposed to be directed by frank darabont He walked off the film because they changed too much of the plotting of it So it was like it could do you have what they changed was there anything a couple of the details Okay, well, they definitely made the lawyer likable. Yeah, I I do think that that's like some of the stuff here Uh, it was probably all a lot of like the notes when they switched characters that each actor wanted right I think that that like wait, hold on. I I had a thing here and I I'm curious because I agree. It's so close to a good movie Yeah, it has all of the pieces and parts including and I wouldn't be surprised if there was a fantastic script Originally that got frank darabont that got all these actors because again It's a murderous row of actors who were like, yes, so I put me in I mean, I love it All right, so this is what I was looking for. I'm sorry. It took me a second here The law abiding citizen went through several versions before f. Gary gray decided Uh on the overall hated ending There were rumors that jayme fox demanded a new ending where his character kills clad to save the people of city hall In one version nick and clad fought in hand-to-hand combat leading nick to be arrested His name was nick Yeah, yeah, oh, oh, yes, and and jerry's name is clad So so then nick was going to be arrested and this goes to our friend's point here Then he makes a deal with the district attorney to become the new clad So now he's batman I guess so And who is leslie bibb I mean it was supposed to be catwoman. It was supposed to be kathryn zeta jones. No way. Yeah Well, I mean with would would she have had a better storyline like the character is underserved by the script in every way shape and form Yeah, you know, I guess you're right. Uh, and if you are to follow the coordinates from the film Oh, yeah, you will be led to the hotel that the cast and crew stayed in in philadelphia And you will also find many people buried alive there You know, I was supposed to play chester You shot that scene I shot my one scene and it was just you emailing him and I went for it You were eating mac and cheese with one hand type Which is which is I believe Hugh jackman and swordfish. Yes Um Pallie you have an amazing podcast that I feel like I've talked to so many people that have said it's helped them Jason I've been guests on it But yes, you're talking about men's health in a way that I feel like people don't actually ever Talk about like men's health. Oh, thanks. Yeah men's health specifically the men's health magazine men's health magazine All it's a podcast about men's health every episode of the podcast covers another issue of the magazine We do it. We have five of the episodes we've recorded about kumail. Yeah No, it's uh, it's uh, it's like a podcast about uh, uh health for people who like done by before pictures Right. No, like usually health podcasts are done by after pictures, but I am a before picture my co-host John gave us a before picture So it's uh, it's like done done by people who can't get it together And you guys are talking to people like us, but you're also talking to doctors You're talking to like you're genuinely pursuing and investigating and interrogating How we are taking care of ourselves or not exactly. Yeah, and what steps we're doing to just like prolong our lives Because I think everybody even even people who are not are doing something daily to keep themselves. Yes, and it's called staying alive There it is Right by it. Oh, yeah, look at that And but um, I also I do have to just contractually I've been told I have to do this anytime The smartless logo is up there. Uh, if you're looking for a new mobile carrier I'm sorry. I have to do this smartless mobile. You are on smartless mobile. I am on smartless mobile Every time I call Pally, I have to hear will our net I hear like he picks up for you. He does my message. You call me. He picks up. Hey, I had a belly swung Um, I want to also just talk about your HBO special, which is fantastic Again, uh, it's available. Yes. No, and it's on HBO max, uh and go And what is that called? I'm sorry. I would be called HBO max go. Yes, uh, no My my special is called an intimate evening with um adam pally inside HBO. You could you could stream it tonight. Um, Or anytime. It's fantastic. We talked a lot about this on our last looks episode. We love it. It's great There it is right there. Oh, cool. Thank you guys. Thank you so much for doing that. It's so nice to you guys Jason All right, let's go a man on the inside season two Yes, i'm in it Percy Jackson season two Yes, i'm in it And not for nothing task master season 19 Every episode available on youtube watch it comment usa usa I want to plug really quickly every week rob hubel and i go into the dark web on youtube And uh and also my book joyful work collections of trauma. Uh, it's still available And you can listen to it. You can uh read it as a softback and has extra pages But if you want to sign you could just order from my website and we go through a local independent bookstore You get a signed copy. Uh, thank you everybody for coming out tonight. We're gonna give you a chance to take pictures right now Great work, philly. Great work. You all are fantastic. We love you. Thank you for coming We know there are a million places to spend your money. We appreciate that you spent it on us tonight Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. You are amazing. Thank you for listening. 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