Spittin' Chiclets Episode 604: Featuring Andrew Santino

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From what I heard, he's on the ice skating, which is huge. I think they're on a little bit of a road trip right now, out west, the cats, but I'm pretty sure I heard that he's on the ice skating, which is... That's bad news for everybody else busy. That's just in time for the... Bad news for the 31 other teams. Oh, babe. That's scary. That's scary. And I was just on a show, a house call with Rico and Jerry, where we're just... I gave a TD score this week. For anyone, should I give K. Shawn Booty for the New England Patriots? I love his last name. You love that Booty. You know I love the Booty. And randomly, they asked me NHL, and let me try to find it here. I said, they were looking for futures. And it was kind of, I was like, I got to check that out. So can you guys list, give me your, what you think of the top eight in terms of favorites. Colorado. Yup. Colorado. I bet you they still have... I would guess Edmonton or Carolina in the second slot. Carolina's second. I know. Okay. It's like, guys... Dallas three. You're going to lose in the conference finals again. Dallas three. No. I'm Vegas. Surprising. Dallas sits in the sixth spot right now. Vegas three. No. I was shocked at the third one. Florida. Tampa Bay Lightning. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Wow. After them, Florida Panthers. Vegas Golden Knights. Dallas Stars. Edmonton Oilers. So it goes Colorado's plus three, 20 makes sense. Carolina's plus 700. Tampa Bay's plus 800. Florida's plus 850. Vegas is plus 900. Dallas is 10 to one. And the Oilers are 12 to one. After that, it's the capitals at 18 to one. So it kind of makes it seem like those seven are, you know, much bigger than, I mean, I think it's a pretty big jump 12 from 12 to 18 to one. But yeah, Carolina's, they're going to lose in the conference finals. We all know that. And I think Dallas being 10 to one is based on that they'd have to play Colorado in the second round. Right. If they're Pacific, I think that they're higher. But I was interested to see that. Yeah, because you called it. They always have, I thought you were going to say Carolina. So they're right there. Carolina, they just had their, what was it? 20 year anniversary. All the guys in town. So the things might be switching a little bit. You get the wizard back in the building. The old school. 20 years. Yeah, I get the children. Every 20 years. You never know. Yeah. I heard they had cabbage rolls for the buffet. That was nice of them. And diapers. Back some old memories from, for Ray Whitney. By the way, I think we've talked about this before. We did like an 80 to 90 minute interview with Ray Whitney. And it somehow we ended up getting lost. And I don't know if we're going to be able to get them back on. I don't know if he's pissed because he's like, fuck, I gave you 90 minutes of our time. But I swear to God, biz. I respect him for being like, no, I know. He won't come back. He'll come back on. Sometimes you're going to tip your cap and be like, I get it. I get it, Ray. I get it. The only thing that would save us is the fact that Merle's, Yans wasn't on at the time, but Merle's was. And Merle's was awesome as a fill in on that one too. He always is. Yeah. Yeah. But like that one in particular, I remember him striking up like two or three stories where I had my jaw on the floor. And maybe because Ray loves you so much that if you reached out Yans, we'd be able to get him back. Yeah. So I'm going to text him right now. Yeah. You guys go way back. Yeah. Text him right now. And he is my family. He is my family. Yeah. I remember he always used to escape by you and go, what up? Cause what up? Cause tell him that we fire and stoned the person who lost it as part of our team. And we'd love to have you back on. And we were talking about it on the podcast because I don't know if he's an every day listener. So, biz, behind you is your bed. I know you're in Atlanta. Got to do a couple of good games last night. On real. You're just, when you have that big old bed, you just sleep one side, never in the middle. No, I sleep in the middle. Okay. It just looks like it. I always get off on that side of the bed, but I know you get off in bed. What's that? Wait, you sleep right in the middle of the bed. Oh yeah. Like, yeah. Yeah. Because I asked that, I realized maybe that is a little different. Maybe most people on a big bed just pick a side. No, I tend to lean more towards the middle. Like I might be like a foot, like not center, but I don't know. I take as much as I can because I get three starfishes. So I'm on like 8% of this enormous bed we have when we sleep. That's like a female thing. Like a bunch of Bob. That's a female thing. They could be four, two and weigh 80 pounds and are taking up 75% of the bed. I take up this much room. That's how I sleep. The thing is though, is I should actually start picking a side even when I'm sleeping by myself because if I do hose the bed, at least I can go on the other half as opposed to like, oh, now I'm sleeping my hands where I only get like a foot and a half of the bed. So because you know when I go, it's fucking, it's go time. It's about 17 liters. I get more fucking piss in my bladder than my diesel truck has. You haven't peed the bed in a while though, right? Yeah, two months. No, I think the last time I hosed the bed was at Internet Invitational. Okay. That's the last time we talked about it. Yeah. I think it was the time zone change in the humidity that did it, but we don't need to get into that. And you had the one day I was out there with you. I think you had 27 waters. Like it was like even like somebody who's constantly talking about hydration, they would have been like, dude enough. Yeah. Well, that's because I was hanging out with the Duke that day and I was smoking his LA crack and I was just like, I need this. I need, if I didn't, if I didn't drink all that water, I wouldn't have made it out of the Ozark. So now speaking of that, we got to promote, since we're talking about golf, we do have the Duke coming up for a sandbagger, but there's another one that's dropping today. And that's on the Spit and Chickalts YouTube channel, 430,000 subscribers. We've got two grant, was it 28 at the end of Monday? It was like 26 or 27. And then all of a sudden with the, the Chickalts use and everything else, like the, the, the ball hockey vlog, like everything that we dropped, all of a sudden to just skyrocketed. I do have some big news, Biz. In the past five minutes, we got to 431. Okay. Okay. Okay. I really, really love that. I thought there was going to be a trade or something announced, but I think Biz would rather that than finding out that the pros we went to call rock. That is big news and pros we went to the apps for me. He both said the same thing. What, what did he say that? He said the exact same thing. Whoa. Yeah. We're on the same wavelength right now, buddy. That's a good thing. Holy shit, dude. If you watch that. Every 10 people that goes up on YouTube, just interrupt and come in and tell us. Yeah. And if you watch this, this sandbag with Paige, I hope everyone does. Very entertaining. You'll see Biz and I were not on the same wavelength for this match. No. I actually, you guys were fucking brutal. And one of you guys had something taken out of the video, whatever. That's okay. But for the amount that you guys pile on and shun shit on me, I feel like you guys should have to bear some of it too. But I'll be with that. Listen, what was taken out of the video? If that was something where one of us was made fun of by you, it never would have come out. Right. Ever. So that's like not a great analogy. Do you know what I'm saying? Sure. I'm not saying that. I'm just going to agree. I take back the same thing I said that you just said I were not on the same. That could have been one of the worst analogies I've ever heard. It was a great one. And I hope you pee the bed tonight. It's so do I. Those are my, usually my best sleeps. That means I hit my REM cycle, but it's an incredible bagger down to the wire. Paige was an incredible partner. She called me down, helped me with my swing. She's an incredible coach. I love her. I know. I should have proposed. I should have brought the ring. I didn't. I was a pussy, but simt nasty is out in full force in this one. That's for sure. The only thing I didn't have on that day was, was a dog collar, but she could have put one on me and walked me around and I would have thrown it on. I would have been like already at the Stanley Cup finals with that diamond encrusted dog collar. If she wanted it on my neck, the page, I love you. I don't know if you love me back, but that's all I got to say. You had a butt plug in for the whole match though. That's not, I'm not, I'm not discussing that. Guys, that the remote thing that she had? I, I, you guys are, you guys are on the same wave like now. Hey, you have a bunch of fucking bullies. But you guys were a really good team though. We were. It was incredible. And so are you guys. And I had a blast and, and I hope we run it back. And we have to, we have to. And I think people do that. You don't like this one. You're nuts. You're nuts. It was just ridiculous, a ridiculous four hours on the golf course. I'll never forget it. Get your mind out of the gutter folks. It was biz's butt plug that really got me going the whole time. You mentioned Merle's biz. Yes. He was in, he was in St. Louis last night. And I saw that you tweeted. Now it went over. Elio was there. That is a chasing goals trip that they do. They've done several of these. I believe they went to Detroit. They might have gone to Columbus. That's just random, a chasing goals trip. Ice con, which is what people have, you know, become aware of. I'm custom to know. That is the true cult of the ice people. That, they're 0 and 2. That is not a win. I saw you tweet out. Congrats. They got it done. He has not won ice con yet. Ice con, I believe, is in Chicago. End of March or early April, I've been told. I will never miss an ice con. I hope I'm not giving that away. I don't, I don't, I think that's finalized. But they haven't won an ice con. We haven't won an ice con, I should say. So we got to get one of those. But congrats. Merle's and Elliott did hit that over. And I said, Jesus, guys, you went to watch the blues. They had to go there. They were there because Missouri, right? Yes. Yes. The show me state. Just draft kings just went live. What classifies an ice con? Does Dave have to be in attendance? I think it's like there's more that goes into it than just a chasing goals trip. There's merch given out to everyone. There's an enormous meet and greet the night before. There's a, it's just a more scaled up version of chasing goals is ice con. Okay. That's when like the, the, the, the one kid from the check comes. Like they're, they have some insane followers. Yeah. It's a cult. And, and there is now a kid who was there last year smothered just as drunk as a skunk, annoying, crippled, buckled, any word you want to say. He takes the under, he shows up and in LAO's face, he bets the under and he was there again last night. So they got to stuff it in his face. He even had a shirt, I believe, five and a half goals equals $9.99 pizzas because LAO owns Tony's place. I believe it's West Roxbury or Hyde Park. And when he goes on losing streaks, the pizzas become cheaper. And so that's what that guy would made a shirt about it, but he was the real loser. Like he owns that pizza place that bomb. Awesome. Awesome. It's unbelievable. What's the name of it again? Tony's right. Tony's place. Now, uh, he makes them cheaper. So they sell more of them to recoup his losses. Yes. Oh my God. So if you see the 999 large cheese pizza at Tony's place, things are not going well. Funny shirt for LAO. Funny shirt. That is unreal. Yeah. It was a funny shirt. Actually, I'll give the guy credit. If he was as drunk as last time though, I, I mean, I saw a HQ spider getting in this face. That's the only clip that that's what I finally came to realize. Like, oh, they have like a heckler. You know, you're, you know, your big time, Merle's. If you got a heckler. Yeah. When the haters come out, you know, you've made it. Yeah. They don't, people don't boo. Nobody's. Guys, you ever heard that saying? Yeah. Well, buddy, I'm sitting in the stands watching morning skate. Yeah. I was fucking and Merle's is funny. Merle's is parlay included a Jake neighbor's call, which I didn't, I didn't mind at all. The over and then, um, Oscar Sunquist to get one. And I was like, what is this? He's like, he plays in the power plane. He's out there in the last minute. Oh, they're in the last minute when they're trying to protect the lead. Like the blues have been trying to protect so many leads. Like I can't stop burping. He also had a Zaka anytime goal, whether it was regulation or overtime, which he took that live. I think he took that late in the second period and it was big. It was big. It was a nice pop for him. I think he ended up making about like 3500 bucks. So nice. I don't know if, uh, as far as overs are concerned, I don't know if you guys caught the TNT games last night. Unbelievable. I mean, the first one, Vegas, the Islanders are must watch hockey now. Dude, it's awesome. Do you see the clip I just retweeted? I think it's Dimitri Filipovich of Schaefer last night. Oh yeah. Yeah. I was watching it live in the flesh. He was doing a little shake and bake special at the line. He's, he's essentially, he's got that Lane Hudson, Quinn Hughes, Kale McCarre, like maybe like maybe not as, as high end doing it as often, but on the blue line, when he's walking the line, like he shimmy shakes and shakes and bakes and he makes guys miss. He's a one man show out there. And Keith, you'll, you'll know what I'm saying as a defenseman, like holding at the blue line with somebody coming at you, like, yeah, everyone hopes to give that head fake and that quick, you know, stutter step, but like the balls it takes to do it, he turned 18, like a day before the season started. Like I can't believe what I'm watching with him and the skating biz, you're right, McCarre is so smooth and just, it's just so fluid and Lane Hudson is kind of herky jerky, but so quick and dynamic. He's kind of combination of them both skating. Cause he has those quick little moments, but he also wants the stride gets going. It's like, okay, he's gliding past people who are very fast and in the NHL for a reason, just incredible. I think the little moves that he makes on the blue line won't look as like fluid as maybe a McCarre or Hudson, just cause he's taller and he gets it done and it gets done in a perfect way. I was wondering that, like, when we were coming up, if you ever turn the puck over at the blue line, A, there was maybe two guys, I think Carlson was kind of the first one that was really doing it all the time. But it was at a point where it was, you couldn't do that. It wasn't allowed, but nowadays, like if you have the skill work, it just seems like the coaches are like, Hey dude, let it fly at the blue line because they probably just trust that he can, he can catch whoever unless he blows a wheel and falls, he can catch whoever. If so, if he does lose the puck at the blue, he'll pick them up. That's a great point. Yeah. I don't like, even like Duncan Keith, like I don't know if I remember that wasn't his game. That wasn't his game. But still, he had that. He's kind of had that Lane Hudson where he probably could have, but it just like, I'm sure Q, I mean, he won't let you throw fucking backhand passes in your own head. I would imagine he doesn't want you trying to shake and bake at the O's online when you're last guy back. But who would you say was the innovator of that? Was it Macar or you guys talked about Carlson doing it? Like who was the first guy to was Zubov doing that shit? I was just going to say Zubov maybe, but I think he was more give and go. Even go and go and go. Yeah. Carlson was so, so nasty. It just head up and making moves up top. And I don't mean to sound like old boomer wit, but I hope these young guys appreciate the fact that they are allowed to basically, if you're that top level player, you're allowed to try anything you want now. And I think that that probably makes the game not probably it makes the game way more enjoyable to watch as a fan with these guys try moves and you're seeing things pulled off. But before, I don't think it was that common where you were given the green light like, hey, show your skill off, like do what's gotten you here at such a young age. Whereas before it was kind of like, hey dude, that worked. Don't try it again. Forget like if it didn't work. Remember, and I remember working with you in the summer times, remember how Lidstrom used to get the pocket like the wall and then just walk in, but he would walk with like, you know, his back and just fake shot, fake shot and then maybe push it. He wasn't dancing around like these guys do now. So what they're doing is different. It's next level shit. And I fucking love watching it. It's like, I bet you did it. It's like Dana White in the poker or in the blackjack room. That type of shit. Yeah. $500,000 hands. Like that's the type of like, that's the alligator blood that they're playing with. And I don't know what you're going to say with, but just to quickly put the Islanders in for perspective right now, they lose Paul Mary, they lose Rome. Is it Romanov? How do you pronounce his name Romanov? Romanov. I've always said Romanov. I think Romanov. It's not Romanov. I think you said it right. Romanov. Romanov. So they lose those two guys, couple big key pieces. And in the last five games, they beat the Tampa Bay Lightning twice. They've beaten the Colorado Avalanche handedly. And then they ended up beating the Vegas Golden Knights last night. And the only other loss that they sustained were to the back, back to back Stanley Cup champs. I think they were playing in a back to back. They were in South Florida. They lost four one. So they go for the last five. And then that those were that that was their competition. So I mean, stick taps and it's not just the top end guys like Bo Horvat. I know like we were in the tech tech thread last night. You're like, ah, he's probably on the outside looking at you be very shocked if he made the Olympic team 19 goals, man. Like he's well on pace to set a career high. So he's buzzing. You could just tell Barzell looks a lot happier where I feel like they were putting a bit of a, you know, they were putting the, what do you call the governor on them a little bit offensively, where I feel like Patrick Waj is just like, Hey, goal boys play the way that you want to play, but just be responsible defensively, work your fucking cocks off. And the other thing too, is their bottom two lines, man, that that cow Richie because they have Horvat and Barzell is the one to it frees him up a little bit. I think he's averaging like just over 12 minutes of ice time. That Holmstrom looked incredible last night. And basically that bottom six, the way they four checked the way that they were cycling the puck and chewing up clock and wearing down Vegas, very, very impressed by the way that they played and of course, Sorokin and the boys brought up a good point on the panel. Like they can run and gun a little bit more and exchange chances knowing that you got a guy back there who year over year. I think he's sub two, two point five goals against average and well into the 900 say percentage. So he's, he's all worlds since he came in. And this is probably one of the, the biggest surprises in the league this year going from where the draft was to now. I don't think anybody expected this. And especially how rocking that building in for how boring it's been the last building looks very alive. And unreal. We said it earlier that you get the first overall pick and it happens to be what looks like a generational player. It changes the entire course of the franchise and it's happened. And they did a great job last year. Like that Brock Nelson trade was hard to move that Richie kid's going to be awesome. And Brock Nelson's really kind of found his game. Remember it was a slow start for him. He walked Roman Yossi in the first minute of the game last night. Like that was a dangle. You don't see Yossi get beat like that. That was phenomenal. I was going to say quickly, maybe Phil Housley did it. I don't remember his game, but the amount of points he was getting, maybe he was dancing on the blue line a little bit like we're talking about. I just don't remember. I don't remember that well. Yeah, Islanders, a lot of fun. I did appreciate last night, Lunkwist on the broadcast. It's hard to do. He kind of gave it to Syrokin a little bit on the Hannafin goal and the Marner goal. The rebound control wasn't necessarily great. Yeah. The POP. I don't know if they had the Scouting report out on them because it seems like they were doing that quite a bit where they were just trying to lay a soft one in on that far side pad for the big juicy rebound. But nonetheless, great games between the first and the second one. Each of them went to a shootout. The bizarre thing, and we were also talked about this. I think we were texting about this morning and you were like, wait a minute. So that was crazy. Yeah. Wedgewood ends up getting ran into by Forsberg on a penalty shot. He caught it and rutt and barrels him over and it looked like a nasty collision, but Wedgewood was obviously alright after he shook it off. So Nashville gets one more shooter in which Wedgewood stops. Now, Colorado is trying to go down to the other end to score in order to extend the shootout because at that point, Nashville is up by one. And then all of a sudden, the refs are like, whoa, whoa, whoa, they're getting the call. The spotter. The spotter is like, no, Wedgewood has to come out of the net. You got to put Blackwood in where even Wedgewood is like, what the fuck is he talking about? Like I got ran over, I shook it off and I made it ready to go. I just made a goddamn save. And now you're going to put Blackwood in cold to potentially make more if this thing keeps going. And he was already at the tin roof. Exactly. And if you're Wedgewood, like, I don't know how this works. Like if they end up tying it on that next shot and then Blackwood makes a save and then they go down and win it, does all of a sudden Blackwood get the W? That's a great question. I mean, how the fuck does that work? So Wedgewood's like, no, I worked my cock off all game. I'm not fucking coming out. I have like, I have a bonus in my contract for wins or something like what I don't even think you can have those anymore. If you're over 40, I think you can. I can't believe I can't believe the spot or like if if Forsberg runs into him the way he did, your job, whatever you take him out, he literally made you. You let him go another shooter. Like at that point, you have to be like, okay, I missed my spot. No pun intended. He's staying in like you can't then pull him. And if you witness that and saw the Forsberg collision, what took you long enough where another guy got to shoot before he comes out? That Lyles, who's very a mild mannered guy, John Michael Lyles, he's like, what the fuck is going on on Twitter? He's like, I don't understand this. And I don't think anyone else did too. So I mean, a goalie to come into a game cold is one thing to come into a shootout. That's got to be way harder, right? Like you just have somebody with skill coming down a breakaway. Remember Mike Morrison used to do it for when I was in Phoenix, who was the goalie? And then Mike Morrison would come in just for the shootouts. Oh, yeah, I remember that. He did it in Edmonton too, I believe. Yeah, one guy was the one guy they had was brutal at shootouts and he was okay coming out. And they would just come in. Yeah. Really? Yeah, but that's gonna be an absolute thing. Maybe a goalie would tell you it's actually easier to a breakaway than come into like five on five or something. I don't know. I don't know. You're groins like you're automatically going to have to go down and I don't know that'd be you'd have to ask a goalie. What was incredible about Tuesday night was that we had an NHL record in which four games were tied up with less than 15 seconds to go. I believe the prior record was three and G grabbed this stat. Great work here that I don't know. This year's NHL season has featured 372 close contests. Now what makes a close contest is a one goal margin or two plus with an empty net goal, which is the most at this stage of a season in league history ahead of last year that was 356. So you're getting some great games. You're getting a lot of action. Now I think Pittsburgh Penguins fans might be more disgusted with last night's end than anything I've ever seen. There is a screenshot of somebody on the Anaheim Ducks with the puck in their own zone in front of their own goalie with 10 seconds left. Short handed. And they won the fucking game. Now Brian Rust, incredible hockey player. Chris Letang, possible Hall of Famer. That was maybe the most pathetic defense I've ever seen in my life before superstar rookie Beckett Seneke ties the thing up and they go on to lose an OT the Penguins. A little tire pump before we go. We'll get a little bit negative on the Penguins for that one. Didn't Seneke also set a record? I don't know. I believe Seneke right now is like one of the youngest players to hit 26 points as a as a teenager. Help me out here, G. Is it not an as a teenager in Ducks history to reach 25 points? Okay. That's what it is. Okay. Well, still good because maybe they've had Corey Perry. They had Ryan Getzlov like there is a very, very, I wonder if those guys were in the minors that lockout year though when they were 19. Okay. Fair enough. Fair enough. But no, no, it's still, it's still amazing to break a record. Anything is amazing. So going back to the play itself, you're up a goal. Okay. So Anaheim takes a penalty. I believe with about 20 seconds left, there's a faceoff in the offensive zone. Okay. Carlson's been unreal this year. And so has the Tang. Are those the two guys you want out there in that situation? Are those your like, like, I would basically set out my penalty kill unit plus one. Ryan Shea has been there like last minute up a goal guy this year, one of them at least. So at least he get him out there. Yeah, you're saying why are you two power play guys out there? Yeah. And on top of that too, like you see when Anaheim takes control of the puck in their own end, like Rust, Latanger and Carlson. And I know they stretched one or two guys, but they're backed up like 510 feet already inside their zone. So there's no gap whatsoever. So it was just horrible coverage. They give up the line. Seneke's able to gain all that speed. He ends up walking the Tang one on one. And the worst possible bounce going off. You see how it hit Carlson's glove and then between Sheelof's legs. So I don't know. I just thought that they handed that one over. And if you're Pittsburgh, you can't afford to give away that point. That's just, that's the one at the end of the year when you miss by a point or two where you look back and you're like, motherfucker. Yeah. No, that, that if they miss by, by one point, oh, I don't think that I don't think there's anything wrong with having those two guys out there. Like, like having, if they had five forwards, like the Leafs do it, then you'd be like, okay, what are we doing? But I mean, those guys have played so many big NHL games that played power play, penalty killed five on five. It shouldn't have happened. Yeah. Okay. So I, but I mean, you go to Tampa and like this discussions happen. Like if you go to the last minute of the game, it's not usually headman on the ice. Like if you go back to when they were winning their championships, it was Ryan McDonough out there. So I think that you have to, you have to have those types of guys that you're like, we're not giving up a goal type shit, maybe rather than like, Lytan Carlson. And that's not taking anything away from them. But I don't think that either of those guys are known for their shut down defense. That's just not what they're known for. And they wouldn't be upset if they weren't out there either, I'm sure. Like you just happy to get the win. They probably already played 24 minutes each. So I don't know. Put it this way, when I was on Pittsburgh and Gauncher and I were running the power, or he was running the power, but we were on the first power play. If we were up a goal at the end of the game, even on the power play, and they said, Whitney Gauncher, I would have been like, what? Not a chance. Scud's would be like, Hey, sit this one down. Scud's and Orpik are like, no, I don't think so. This is not happening. But the late game heroics were awesome. As we mentioned, Senna Key scored with 11 seconds left. Dora Fee have scored with 14 seconds left to tie it up. Vegas Islanders, McDavid. Oh my God, Edmonton and Bouchard. Holy shit. McDavid scored with a second left and Cal McCarves scored with eight seconds left to tie it up in the Nashville, Colorado game. So pretty sick, dude, that you get those type of endings on a pretty good slate of games. But to get into Edmonton real quick, the start of the game, Buffalo played the night before. They got waxed by Calgary. Now, sometimes there is something to be said that the team that is playing on a back to back with not crazy travel by any means, they almost have a leg up, right? Like, sometimes that's the case where they're moving their feet and they're going and they played the night before and it just comes more natural at the beginning. But still not three, nothing down. And in two of the goals, the first goal, and by the way, Josh Done, like that trade Buffalo won that trade million percent. Josh Done looks phenomenal. He has 11 goals now. I think how many does what's his name? I think you just hit 10. Did me just hit the double digits and you got Josh did it right? So you're also laughing at the fact that it was it was two players for one and the forward's pretty much matching your goal output. And you had to pay Paturka seven sheets where donors, I believe in his last year of entry level. Yeah, but he ends the year with 27 goals. What's he getting? No, I know. Yeah, good for donor. Oh, Paturka has 12 goals. Sorry. So Paturka is ahead, but you guys know what I'm getting at there for sure. But Bouchard is standing next to Done on the power play. And granted, it was a nice tip, but he's just like standing there. And then I think the best Bouchard turnover we've ever seen on the second goal by Tage Thompson, like that is the Bouchard we know and we love. He steps out from behind the net. Like it is a five on all breakout as the first drill in practice. And Tage Thompson, you could tell he's like, what the fuck is he takes it off the stick and buries it and then gives the point at the goal. Like, yeah, that's a goal. You literally just gave me the puck. I've never seen anything like that. But thank you very much. A wild, wild event for the Bouchbaum. Bacardi Boucher, as Grinnelli has called him. But still they come back and McDavid ties it unreal. The place went bananas. It looked like an unreal atmosphere. Incredible moment there. He ties it up one second to go. Well, how about 10? Like they're down three nothing beginning of the third period. He's like, all right, I'm just going to take this into my own hands. 10 seconds. Check in. Boom. Off of, he's so good at taking those pucks off the wall. And then he's gone. Like normally guys, it's like Cooch is obviously good at it. He's good at like picking it off. And then it's all in his forehand to make the play. But as far as like skating into it, and then like making a Mohawk turn and next thing you know, he's flying down the ice. McDavid is like from his own. And he does it and the offense is only does it. Just an absolute freaking freak of nature. Now, I want to ask you though about that overtime goal. Okay. That was, I think on McDavid a little bit. Okay. So let me, okay. So definitely McDavid's guy originally. So as they go in the zone, it's Bouch has that low guy. But there's on the wall, you're talking right on the wall, but there's back pressure from Leon. Okay. So it's not like Bouch is like closing on these guys quickly. Right? No. So as he rolls up, Leon's like, well, I'm closer. He's peeling off and he's not a threat. He's rolling up top. I'm, I would figure Bouch reminds me'll just stay down low. And it's not like he didn't have time to like stop and then like take a couple quick strides back towards his net where he would have been in totally fine position to like intercept the pass if it came through. He kind of just lazily turns around. And kind of as he do does it, he realizes that the guy might be passing it. So he's facing towards the guy who's wide open for the net. And he just kind of like swings his stick. Yeah. So it's, it's the fucking body language and like the quick twitch and you're a fucking defenseman. You left out the best part. The best part was honestly, I might have laughed more at this than the turnover. Did you see right after the goal goes in, he like one hand scoops the puck out of the net and then has the stick go around his body and grab it on the other side. Like I'm like, it's fucking unbelievable. It's unbelievable. Normally a guy would be taking a slap shot. Yeah. The board is working on his one hand at toe drags. No, I love that. I don't believe that's how it is responding. He's just like, Oh, let me grab that and oh, the stick's back here. I got to grab it over. I have said this. I would never wear another man's jersey with another man's name on my back. I'm getting a boost jersey. Yeah. Cardi Bush. And I'm guessing that he, listen, this is talking out of turn. I'm not in that locker room, but I would be surprised if he's not coming in the locker. I'm like, we'll get him tomorrow, boys. Like I don't see, if you guys see that one hand toe drag, if you're grabbing the puck, if you did that turnover on the second goal and then you're grabbing the puck out of the net on the OT winner like that, there's no way you're coming in the room like pissed off. He leans over to Skinner. He's the age you see that rocket in the fourth row behind you after they, they, they, they're like, you see my one handed toe drag out of the puck. Out of the biz. Imagine what Dave King would have done to me if I did a back behind the back toe drag, getting the stick on the other side of the body is straight up men's league. Like you just lost in overtime to the Buffalo Sabres. He's walking, he's walking in everybody's fucking fume. He's like, you guys see what the 50 50 horse tonight is he's flipping the puck up on his stick as he's walking in the room. He's like, Hey, what's up boys? Look at this. He's like swaggy pee. He's swaggy pee. Oh, hey, did you see that? Did you see that recent video that swaggy pee posted where it got shared? That's old. That's old. That's the most ridiculous move where he catches it in the air toe drags it in the air. Okay. That one was old, I think it's okay. It just came across my timeline where I was like, this thing got shared like over 300,000 times and there was like celebrity rockets in his, in his messages being like, that's the sexiest thing I've ever seen. Like he's getting laid because he's doing these fucking moves, man. No, I was a little older than swaggy pee. So I had to ask Keith, like I never played against him or anything growing up, but Keith had mentioned so for people who know swaggy pee as an influencer with some of the silkyest, nastiest myths you've ever seen, he was unreal at hockey. Like Keith, you lost to them seven, six, five and he had six points, right? No, it was six, seven. No, I think it was, I think it was eight, seven. They had 10 shots on net swag. He had seven points and yeah, they beat us eight, but he would like, you would think he was just like a dangler. He fucking worked his dick off, biz. He was in the fight. He was a nasty player, man. He was humble. If he was three inches bigger, he'd still be playing. Hey, that's why you put, that's why you put him on the Boston Stranglers for the Chickle's Cup. No wonder. What a guy too. The, the Bush turnover. And remember, Gabbwick came on and he said that story where I turned one over to him. Bushes was way worse than yours. It was the same exact thing. No, except it wasn't an HD, which is nice. You passed it. I thought I thought he like hit it off my stick, but either way, I thought you kind of distraught to him. That one was like, Hey, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm doing a five on old breakout at the beginning of practice. And then, oh, there's a guy here. We're playing an NHL game and it's Tage Thompson. Also shout out six, seven. I had this guy DM me, wait, if you're not counting to seven when breaking the team down, you're missing out. I'm coaching an eight U team in Michigan and say muskies on seven, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven loses it. So I have a new thing for the team. Also, somebody sent me a new six, seven handshake. Keith, I shared that one with you. Anyone who hates six, seven, you hate me. Don't listen to the bond. And you can hate me and hate six, seven, but I ain't stopping. I wish you were six foot. I would fight someone that death who didn't like six, seven, seven swords. I love it. I absolutely love a game prior though, Buffalo got smoked by Calgary. I think if the final was seven, four, and apparently Tage Thompson after the game was like still in his gear and just so rattled. So a huge, a huge win after fucking being up three, giving up the lead in the third period. And then, and then, and then get in the OT dub. It was talk who scored the OT dub, right? Yeah. And I saw unbelievable pass by McLeod. Like he's on the wall and you can see like he does the shoulder look and he doesn't try to just get it to him quick. He's like, all right, let me hold off Leon and let Bush get the puck out of the net and tow track it. But like he made such a good play just like shoulder checking, not trying to force it right away and gets it to his forehand makes or whatever and makes an unbelievable pass. I could talk about Bush for the next 20 minutes. Yeah. I love Pete Blackburn tweeted. Not the only goal that or something to the extent of like, we could see Alex Tuck scoring more goals at Rogers this year. I would do anything to have raw Alex Tuck on that team. I don't know how you just means another year of them not making playoffs like that. Oh, but it's not making the playoffs. What are you talking about? I listen, I get where you're coming from is a huge win to get that two points. They're not that far from a wild card where they seven points out of a spot would be, they'd have to go on a miracle run year. I know the look you're giving me, but at a certain point, things got to fucking turn around now. Don't they? I called them pathetic online. Their whole fan base is attacking me. Their fan base is the best. I know. But fan base doesn't deserve this. No, they don't. But their fan base knows we ain't making the playoffs like this. I actually was reminded because Heat Daddy and Schmaltz did like a show in Buffalo last week. Yeah. They were there for a week. And I saw the pictures they posted and all the Sabres fans like all the Sabres gear they have all the old jerseys. And I kind of thought back to that when Carolina won it, when Buffalo lost in game seven that year with, I think, one regular defenseman playing like everyone was out and the Bryant Campbell over the glass penalty. And I just thought back to the Chris Drury, Daniel Breer, that arena and that city is such a hockey town. Tim Conley, remember how good Tim Conley was? It makes me sick for them. They are a top five fan base in the NHL. What can we do for them? They're showing up. They're watching the playoffs more than some of the cities with the teams in the playoffs and they can't get in the playoffs and they're not making it this year. And it makes me sick to say I love you, Buffalo. I love you, but I'm sorry. 0.00%. 0.00%. No, give them at least 1%. Come on. We love Buffalo. Give my percent. I'm being a realist here, guys. Right now, they are sitting in dead glass in the Eastern Conference. There's seven points out of the second wildcard spot. They have to hop eight teams, boys. It doesn't matter that you're seven points back when you have eight teams above you. Any game in hands? Not 10. Let's see. Everyone else has games in hand. No, no, they got a game in hand on one team, the New York Rangers and the New York Islanders. Okay, all the New York teams in the mix. Nice Bruins and the Bruins who want to run by the Bruins tied for the top of the Atlantic Division. Unreal. Incredible. And I said last night in the group chat that Fraser Mitten, who seemed to be somebody in the group chat, said he was maybe a throw-in in the Carlo deal. It was a first rounder in Mitten. I don't think it was considered that way by Toronto or Boston's brass, but that kid, man, he's a 200-foot player. He's big. He can move. I like his game a lot. And he was playing with Poshchnock in St. Louis. So watch out for that line. Poshchnock gave it back. That's going to go down as a tough trade. He had three assists. Poshchnock gave it back. We got Carlo for this year. And he's out right now. I think he's having surgery, somebody said. So he's probably going to be out the next couple of months unless Carlo comes back and has the second half and playoff run of a lifetime. That's an L. And I know that we needed a D-man and I know we needed one that was not heavy on the books. He's not making much money and they retain salaries. So hey, at least we're in win now mode, but fuck, man. That one might come back to bite us. I think the Mitten kid too, just being traded to Boston, he's getting more of an opportunity than he ever would his first few years in Toronto. So he's taken advantage of it. So credit to him and it just goes to show you no matter what, like you just need that opportunity, right? You talked about Ryan Shea earlier, like guys just need that opportunity to play and showcase themselves and you got to give him credit for going out there and doing it. Now he's playing with fucking Poshchnock. We got a fucking tire pump management too, man. We were pretty hard on Sweeney and Neely and even in the off season with some of the moves, I'm like, they're going to be fucking top five worst teams in the league. But what did I say last night? What did I say? They can sign and trade like with the best of them. They just can't draft. They're signing trades are awesome. Like that's Steve's kid. He led the AHL and scoring. He looks great. Like that, I mean, that's not a super risky signing, but they found something there that works. Geeky, obviously. Fuck. Even that year they lost the floor. Yeah. Geeky. Even the year they lost the floor, like they brought in Bertuzzi. They brought in Hall. They brought in Lindholm that year from Anaheim and it just kind of seems with the draft, they can't do anything, but signing and trading, they're solid. Wait, I think the most important thing they've done is retool their prospects. I mean, that's something we've been so hard on Swinia and you look, there's one team in the NHL that has four prospects or three or more prospects in the NCAA with nine or more goals. That's the Boston. That doesn't do anything for me. Why not? Well, just because it's college, you don't know if it's going to transfer. And they were also the only team in the league with no players in the world juniors last year. So it's like, it's a proper way to evaluate. Yeah. But then he went out in this off-season and traded for him. Like that will Zehler's that kid they got as a row in in the Charlie Coyle trade. He's leading freshmen, freshmen scores in scoring this year in the NCAA. He's nice. He's nice. I'm just saying, like scoring goals in college, like it doesn't really mean much to me. Yeah. Unless it's like with a resume coming in and like a background of like, all right, yeah, like this kid scored at every level. He's a high pick. He's scoring in college like he's supposed to. But like kids with 10 goals in college right now, like a lot of those kids aren't going to play in the NHL. I think, I think something that else is super, it's super, super encouraging is Dean LaTorneau. I mean, this is a kid everyone said was a boss last year. He went to BC a year early. Talk about six, seven, six, seven. He's six, seven in height. That's pretty fucking sick. He's got nine goals this year. He looks awesome for him. Give him a max deal. Yeah. In fairness to that kid, he was supposed to go play juniors for a year and then Will Smith left. And so they had him come. So like, obviously it was kind of a disaster for him last year, but he wasn't even supposed to be playing college hockey yet. Exactly. He does look good, dude. And he's a monster. He's the kid. Well, isn't his dad a trainer or was a trainer for Anaheim? Is that the same kid? No, that's Sean. What's that? What's his? Skehan. He's a defense. He's huge too, right? Monster defense. But I think he was a relatively high pick. He can move. He's big. I think the wild picked him. Yeah. Good guy. He was my trainer in Anaheim. He used to come up to me and be like, Hey, man, like after the game, big when he's like, you got to hit the bike for 30. I was like, what? 30? And he looks so sad too. He's like, Randy, man, he's made me. I'm sorry. I don't want to do this to you. And it was all Randy just telling him what to do. Oh, I had such a great Bob Murray bashing session with someone very, very successful in the game of hockey. I just, oh, it was so fun. That Anaheim crew, Bob Murray and Randy Carla, what a joy to be around those guys were Oh, holy fuck. Was it recently? Oh yeah. But we're not saying the name. We're not saying the name coast to coast night. I know I'm fucking. Oh, I didn't know you knew. I didn't know you knew. I thought you couldn't remember. Um, biz, I do want to shout out the Leafs. Great, great shout out at home Monday night against Tampa held the bees. I told you about gold tending. You did tell me about the beast. I told you about gold tending. We got three guys in the pipeline. I've been saying it since last year. It's huge. So unreal performance. That's a big one against Tampa. Great team right now. And we're staying afloat. That's it. We're staying afloat. No more, not as much drama as there was. We just need to keep winning, you know, three or four in every five games. It will be good to go. Any news when Tane is coming back? I don't know. Cause right now they got no, no Tanev and no car lowers. They need Tana. Tanev's the, the number one guy for me on that backend. So does Montreal suck? Does Montreal Canadian? It's follower time. It's follow time. He got called up. Yeah. So hopefully this kid can go on a run while Doebus has had some good games. It's been inconsistent. I think Doebus is like incredible or horrible, which is an, a nightmare scenario for a gold tender. Yeah, that's exactly what I just be decent half the time, then be out of this world one night and a straight up sieve the next night. So I mean, Tampa just put a beating on them last night. Is Tanev still out from when he got hit and stretchered off or whatever? Yeah, I think so. The neck. Yeah. I thought he was coming back. All right. I need him back. He's the key to that backend. Oh, but that Jacob Fowler, who has been, he was incredible at Boston college. I think he won the USHL championship prior to that has basically won wherever he's been. He has been great in the AHL for Laval and they called them up. It's kind of a situation where you could see like a young guy coming into a young team, getting his chance and running with it. Like I wouldn't be sure. I mean, Montreal has had plenty of instances before Ken Dryden comes in as a rookie, wins the cup. Patrick Waugh comes in as a young kid, wins the cup. I'm not saying he's going to come in and win the cup, but I could see him come in and be awesome. Kerry Price was great from the get-go. So Jacob Fowler, the goalie of the future for the Montreal Canadiens gets his chance. So that's exciting. I know they didn't like, they wanted him to go all year in the minors and just play down there. Whether, you know, they didn't think that Dolbisch and Montenegro were going to be this bad right now. Cause the, this, this last stretch of hockey for them hasn't been great. They were good in the beginning. And especially Dolbisch was unreal in the beginning of the year, but it's one of those things where their hands are forced right now. You've got to bring them up. You've got to give them a look. Worst case he goes back down, plays more games, but from everything that I've talked to people about or read about, like he, he's a gamer. He wants the net. Like I don't think he's going to be, you know, even playing at home in Montreal is a goal he's got to be intimidating, but I don't think he's one of those guys where it, you know, it hits him. Like he's just like fucking gamer. Yep. Also, I think Montreal would probably be like the place I would choose to play my first game. Now I don't know if his first game is to be on the road or at home, but if that's your first like example or what is the word I'm looking for? Like your first intro, intro to the intro to the NHL, you're just like, holy shit, this is what it's like. This is where was your first game with New Jersey at continental arena. Oh God. Yours is overseas, right? Yeah. I was at the globe. My first game I was on a five on three with Mario Lemieux, Mark Recky, Sergey Garnchar, Sid and Sidney Crosby. So I didn't really give a fuck. I didn't really give a fuck. What are you getting? Apple? I did get an apple that game. Woo. First game. Wow. I think I think I think I did. I had three assists the next game. I know that. What the fuck? And then that's when you know you're going to be around a while and then Rick Jackman came up to me goes, it's not this easy kid. And it wasn't wrong. You were right, sir. Biz, I have another question for you. Maple Leafs related. A few years back, if you remember that sociopath Truba, he slashed Trent Frederick in the face and got a fine. Oh, yeah, you're talking about a man looked like it was very similar. And it looked a little bit more accident than all of that. Come on. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. The one that was on Bjorkstrand. Yeah. So you thought that Trubas wasn't as bad. No, I thought he thinks Trubas is worse. I thought that was worse. Yeah. And Truba got a fine and McMahon got suspended. I'm agreeing with you. Oh, okay. Well, that yeah, I didn't know if you were just trying to stir it up or what you were asking. Like, I, yeah, I didn't think that he deserved to get a game suspension. It looked like it was like partly accidental. Like it didn't, it didn't, it looked like it was accidental. So one game. Sure. That's a tough loss to the Leafs because I feel like that line has been incredible. Like their third line has been a big catalyst for the group. So just the league fucking the Leafs again, nothing to see here. I mean, you do have to have control of your stick and it's your responsibility when it's in your hand. So I get it. Like you hit somebody in the face, but yeah, it does seem a little hypocritical. I just feel like if you're going to suspend somebody for a slash to the face, it's almost like a fine or a 10 gamer. Like you're either doing it on purpose and it's 10 games or it's like, Hey, true, but just slash Frederick in the temple, but I could tell it was momentum and he didn't mean to. So we're going to find them, but then McMahon doesn't get suspended. So biz, I'm with you. And you know, I'm not looking to agree with you on the day the page sporadic Paul Bisonette sandbagger drops, but I agree with you. I agree with the power couple. You can't even say your name last, right? What if what if a few pod? I don't even know if she's got a husband or fiance or boyfriend. What if a few pods that came on us and say, Hey boys, me and Paige got a dog. It's getting serious. Oh man. And then, Hey, Hey guys, this is two weeks later. Hey guys, Paige has the dog. This sucks, but I get to see him every six weeks. When you dropped that video recently of the snake you killed that puppy you had then was so cute. Oh, when did I drop that video? Where did that pop up? Was that I think you just showed us? No, no, you must have saw that. They put it in the pod. G saying. Oh, you guys did? I didn't. Are they talking about it? Yeah, that's Packer. Do you see him still? That was Packer the Pitbull. Oh, I see him all the time. Yeah. What a beautiful puppy. Maybe not all the time. The last time I saw him was probably like five, six months ago. No, five to six months ago. I just like don't talk to that X as much anymore, but there's no animosity there. Yeah. That was Annie. Katie was my last one. Every other weekend, it's every weekend on a leap year. He gets to see them every every six weeks and dog years. That's why I don't have kids. I just have they be all I'd fucking see him every couple years. Speaking of kids, the puke in my mouth. It got me. Shocker Monday night. 8 0 5. I go, Oh, no, the rumbling coming out both ends. And wouldn't you know I have this world class toilet that cleans your five hole after you poop. It's insane. It's unbelievable. And on a night when I needed my five hole cleaned more than ever, it wasn't work. Oh, no, I was like, this is insane. Like how on how is this thing broken right now? Yeah, dude, I was all night, all night. And that's straight, straight comma for you saying, I think I fucking I'm immune to it. I got that. You're getting caught. Your toilet heard it and said, fuck this guy. Your booty hole heard it said, fuck this guy. And your mouth heard it and said, fuck this guy. This guy's getting cocky. I was I was like, this is hell. And then yesterday I didn't move. I'm talking. I got I got up like three times to like go to the bathroom, but it was all done. But I was so wounded yesterday. I was just and and you know, I was hearing it. You know, how are you feeling this bad? It's over when I had this. It was I was fine right after I'm like, I'm different than you. I'm not iron gut. And then I just got the call before we started rider in the middle of class all over the desk poop the last the last Whitney to get it. And he's playing goalie. He's playing goalie this weekend and tonight's practice. So he's he's going to be going into a net Sunday morning, 6 20 a.m. game down the Cape. I'm like, down the Cape. What these 6 20 a.m. games are just kicking that. No, we got it. We got to give a couple clicks to all the janitors out there and the school teachers that like when he yucks like who did they just call the janitor and he comes up and cleans it. No, it's an RA's world. It's old school school. They shout out to our kid who puked actually grind through it and clean it up. It's it's teaching responsibility and what you have to do to be successful in life. Remember they used to just throw wood chips on it. Like you just see piles of wood chips. I'd be like, guys, this ain't doing it. RA smoking the wood chips. I like, sir, sir. Those are for a puke. He's got a wood chip in his background. So we are we are we are Amazon people here. We did am I just got we did save here. We just we did Amazon coast to coast. We've got a couple more of those this year. Monday night is prime Monday night hockey. Oh, yeah, this week. It's the jets at the senators prime Monday night hockey is available free to prime members in Canada. Start your free trial prime video.com for the full prime Monday night hockey schedule. Visit prime video.com slash NHL. That's a big one, boys. Both these teams and I think it was Tuesday night. The devil's beat auto at home. Brady had a couple of assists. It was it's kind of surprised the devil's pulled that one. I think they scored late in the third if I'm correct. Mark's leaking oil again. All marks horrible right now. All marks horrible. Yeah, Cody Glass scored the winner with like seven minutes to go. So auto loses that game. The jets they need Hella Buck back. I would be very worried about all mark if I'm Ottawa though. What's that contract seven more years? All mark. Yeah. Oh, it's got to be it. Didn't he sign when he went over there, G? Yeah, so maybe he did have an eight year deal. Looks like he's only signed until 2029. Sorry, sorry. It was a four year deal. I I think yeah, this is the first. So he's got three more after this year. But I mean, they were banking on him being their guy and it is not it is not pretty right now. So both teams going through goaltending issues, both teams who need a win. The broadcasts on those games are awesome. Bizz, you've mentioned how they play the warmups. I know it's odd to mention warmups, but it is cool just to see warmups with no audio. You know, we're here in the on the on ice level and seeing how guys go through their routine before game. So I don't know what's going on. Listen, if you if like, there's some of you who like grew up playing hockey and you're just hockey enthusiasts or or some of you maybe even even other played, but you're just like so obsessed with hockey. If you've had a long day at work, chaotic household and you get some time alone to just like turn on the game, if you put on this Miller time beforehand where there's no commentators talking, it's just audio and video of the guys warming up and it pan it'll pan pan to like Crosby doing the his stick handling on the the golden arches, it'll pan to the goaltender, but brosky doing his fun little warmup right whoever that that game is. So and just here in like pucks go off the post and off the glass and that you know the stick handling sound. I just found it was very therapeutic and actually before we started the broadcast, I had my earpieces in and I was just watching and I would say that that's the most calm I ever went into a broadcast because it was like it was like I was I was in a trance. I was in a hockey trance. So if you want a little bit of breathing therapy for four games, go check out Miller time before puck dropped. Don't look at me like that, Jans. You think I'm correct? It's like hockey's version of the the never ending fireplace over the holidays. That's exactly what example where I love the best example of the day. I love throwing it on. Right? That's not roasting on an open fire. Jack Frost nipping at you know, you know the next line. Nope. Oh, if you did, dude, I was going to be so impressed. Nobody knows your cock out. Nobody knows the next line about one. We've never talked about that this new hockey show that's out this one of the heated rivalry. Oh yeah, that's making waves. So how about this one? So I haven't seen it. So we're at coast to coast and I get like like tagged in a tweet and someone's like, I wonder if biz is watching this heated rivalry and I thought that they were like making light of the fact that like Toronto and Carolina is like not typically a heated rivalry, but there was like a few moments in the game where like, okay, like whatever. So at that point, I was going through my silent strike and I was doing this on the coast to coast broadcast where I did my hood up and I only had one eye out watching the game and I refused to talk for the last seven minutes until the Leafs won the game. So I saw that and since I wasn't talking and I wasn't really involved in the coast to coast broadcast for those seven minutes, I, I said, there it is. If you're watching the YouTube channel, you can see it. So you guys think biz is watching heated rivalry and I read it quick. So I thought they were like this heated rivalry. So I replied with a picture of just my one eye, which kind of looks like I'm looking through a butthole given the fact that I tied up my sweater and it's just peeking out. So all of a sudden, all of these like annum accounts and obviously people who might be, might be gay started going crazy at the fact that this heated rivalry show has absolutely taken off and and Avery warned us. The hockey smut novels are are like top of the list right now. People are going crazy for these and this kind of falls under that category where I guess every 10 minutes these guys are just teeing off on each other's assholes. It's a show. It's a show. It's a show and it's apparently pretty graphic. So it's, let's gee, why don't you come on and talk about this, whatever you know. Avery was doing a breakdown on his Twitter and he's all over it. It's taken over right now. I feel like everywhere you go, people are talking about this and yeah, Sean Avery's breakdown with the pointer. It was like two and a half minutes. Oh yeah, he gets into everything. He's breaking it down with the pointer. It's unbelievable. And I guess it's pretty graphic and there's something going on every 10 minutes where the premise is, is these two rivals who are playing against each other, like at one point, they're even doing a press conference talking about this battle they're about to go to and they're playing footsies underneath the table at the press conference. Like you and Paige in the cart. Exactly. You know who has seen every episode in RA? R.A. seen it? R.A. seen every episode. So maybe you've seen it. You're surprised R.A. seen a TV show? I just didn't know he would be as quick to the gun on this one. So I guess we could bring him in after we send it to Santino. So I'll hand it over to you, Wip. And I want to talk to R.A. about heated rivalry and guys teeing off on each other's barholes. Yeah, let's let's yeah, exactly. Andrew Santino is an all time comedian, very successful. We got to know him at the internet invitation and we're supposed to do a sandbag with him. We're going to do that, but it got rained out in LA. So we sat down with him. A hilarious 90 minutes. I promise you guys, if you like laughing, you'll enjoy this. An unreal guy and we appreciate him coming on. So without further ado, Andrew Santino. Just take a minute here, guys, and talk about body armor. This episode is presented to you by body armor flash IV flash IV delivered faster, longer lasting hydration with over 2000 milligrams of electrolytes and no artificial dyes or sweeteners like those other drinks. None of the crap. None of the stuff that shouldn't go into your body. Right. It's just 2000 milligrams of electrolytes. So whether you're training, traveling or just feeling the heat work hard, hydrate hard with body armor flash IV and grab yours today at a local 7 11 convenience store. Guys, let's take a moment and talk about game time. We were a few days into the 12 days of game time, which means they are giving away prizes every day with a $5,000 grand prize at the end. 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He's not spending that much time with that asshole on a cart. No, I wanted to golf, but you guys chose to come to LA the only time it rains the whole year and it rained for four days straight and we were talking, we were texting about it and I said, might be the day, might be good, might be bad, but it was car path only. We wouldn't have had a good day. No, we don't need that for the sandbagger. No, I'm not doing that. And you would have to play with Biz. You need more time in the car. No, no, no. Biz and I would have poured up today. Buddy, car path only though, that would have been a nine hour round. At least, at least, no. Yeah. No, I would have still loved you, but I'd have been drinking a lot more than I usually would. I'd have been smashing them back, dude. The walk from the cart to the, I just played in Phoenix and they had to do that too because they just like overseeded and reopened and they were like, carts only. And at some point I was like, should I walk? You walk way more when you do car path. We should have just walked with the, had the caddy carry the bag. The caddies just walking. He's walking way less steps. We got to go back and forth and back and forth and his desert golf. So if you hit it out of bounds at all, or like even off into the, into the shit, you're walking twice as far. Go back, get a club, come back. I was like, no. Bring three clubs, none of them are the right club. Hate that. Walk back. Also, the one caddy didn't even have a gun. He's going off his brain. Oh, it's a Molozzi. Did he have the slope on? Yeah, he had the slope on. He goes, this has got to be 184. I was like, got to be or is? What is it? He goes, I know this course, man. I was like, all right, fine. Last night was the first time I've seen you live and you mentioned that you, you were in Arizona and that you found the people very dumb. Oh yeah. I went to ASU. I know my own kind. Dude, Harvard of the West. I mean, whenever somebody goes, why did you go to ASU? It's like, dude, I couldn't get into any other school. You know, do you guys do, when you were in high school, do you do ACTs or SATs? Never went. You don't go to high school? Well, I barely graduated. Yeah, same, but I did ACTs. Okay. Okay. If you didn't do ACT, the numbers, okay. What's about a 36, what'd you get? 24. Oh, that's real bad. I'm an idiot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, you dude, you should get, you should be sniffing 30. For sure. If you have any brain cells. So you weren't getting in anywhere else. Dude, I was doing drugs and alcohol in high school. I wanted to do sports, hook up with chicks and party. And I thought high school is going to figure itself out. And then by the time I got to the end, everybody's like, I'm committed to Iowa. I'm going to U of I. I'm going to and I was like, I'm going nowhere, dude. I got nothing. I got nothing. And my dad's best friend, stun, who him and I became friends because we'd go to college football together. He was like, my cousin goes to Arizona state. You got, you should come and visit with me. And I go, I don't know. He's an idiot. I was like, I don't even know how I'll get into there, dude. We went out to ASU together, took mushrooms. It went to a house party, sat on what would be my future dorm, which is kind of surreal. We sat on the porch out there and, you know, smoking a cigarette. And I was like, we should go to school here, dude. And he was like, we really should. And we did. We literally did. It was like stoner mentality manifested truth. We went for a year. And then he was a bright kid. He was like actually smart. And between freshman, sophomore, summer, he knocked the girl up and never came back. And I never saw the kid ever again. No, don't even know what he's doing now either. No, no idea. He's teaching at ASU. He probably see a no, you got a girl from home pregnant. He went back home and knocked up a girl. So he stayed at home with his mom and dad. So the idiot lasted kids at home. Listen up. If you're an idiot, it might work out. Out of state tuition there's insane, isn't it? How do you afford that? When I was in school, out of state wasn't that expensive. It was one of the cheapest out of state schools in the country. You can look that up. In 2000, when I went there in 2002, it was one of the cheapest out of state schools because they wanted out of state kids. It was a lot of in state kids. Now it's, dude, there's a, you go to ASU now, it's a billion. It's way too big. Yeah. You're never getting out of student debt. No, no, no, no. Who cares? You don't have to pay it off. Thanks, Obama. Did you start doing comedy then? When did you know like I got to try stand up? Yeah, college I really liked loved it. I tried to sneak my way into, I even said that the club I played, I played the Tempe Improv and I've never played it, which is crazy because when I would go back, I would do other clubs and then I started doing theaters. So I never got a chance to go. But in college, I used to see a chick that was working there and she would give me tickets. So I used to go watch stand up, but I was too scared. I was 20 years old. I was like, I'm not going up. These, you know what I mean? Were you writing stuff though? Yeah, I was, but I wasn't going to, I don't know what I was going to do with it. Yeah. But I was just putting it down. I was putting down ideas or, or I'd write like a sketch or something. And I was, I didn't have the balls to go because back then Arizona had one club. Maybe there was one more way up north, but now there's like six. Yeah. The world is different. But so I was like, I'll just start when I get to LA. And on the 4th of July, I got in a U-Haul, moved to Long Beach and slept on a guy's lazy boy for a couple of months until I got enough money to get, I got a job and then I got a roommate. And then I moved up to LA. So what was your job while you were trying to be a comedian? You had to get a real job. Did I had so many gigs? Like real shit jobs, I bet. I was talking up with this girl who was a physical therapist. Oh, dude, this is so mean too. She had, she had like, she had like really like, she was beautiful, but she had like thinning hair and all my buddies behind my back called their hairpiece. And dude, it was, they were like, had a piece, had a piece. And I was like, are you saying her piece, dude? She doesn't have her piece. And they're like, no, had a piece, had a piece, had a piece. Because she was Middle Eastern. Dude, they were lighting me up. But, but thanks to headpiece, I got myself a job at the PT office. So she, I got to work at a physical therapy office as like a, a gopher. It was like, clean shit up, put the, put the mats away, get us a roller, just check people in. Yeah. But also the dude that ran the place loved me. So he was like, Hey, man, I'll, you know, I'll give you some extra hours because I needed the cash. And he was like, I can't, you can't work with any of the doctors. He's like, that's illegal. But he's like, but you can just stay by me and I'll give you extra money if you like do more for me. So he, that guy, that dude helped me out. That was my first gig. Were you like the life of the party? And would you try, would you try that material? Oh, I was cracking jokes the whole time. Yeah. Like there was an old lady, you know, like, and if they were like, Hey, can you get her on this roller? And I'd help her get on the thing. And I'd be like, you know, if you fart when I put you on this, it's not a big deal. Most people fart on these things. Do I give them comedy and relief? You know, and they, when they would fart, you know, I'd be like, just fart it on the collar out. Get on the PA. Yeah. This woman just farted on table nine. No, but it just, it was like a way for me to just start that drumming up. But every gig I had was me trying out, just being, I've always been a, a jag off like my whole life. Then I served, you know, I did, I did, I did bartending and serving and all that nonsense. And then when I moved to LA, a dude got me a job. My first job was working at a studio as like a PA, a production assistant, just run and go for again. And then after that, a guy was like a dude I knew in a band was like, Hey, there's a music, this music touring company, they need someone to just push paper. And I needed a day job because at night you want to do stand up. So I would work, you know, till 430 and then go to the club and go to the open mics and I go across the street to the comedy store, do the mics and then go to the East side and do little, you know, whatever putz around shows and then drink all night and then do it all over again every day for years and years. That comedy store like we watched you last night. It was awesome. David's paid yourself. Who was it? Nick Kroll. I recognize that name. Yeah. He's paid Kroll. Eliza Slesinger. There's two rooms. I've actually never been to the one we went to last night. I would always go to the. There's three. Well, that one's called the main room. That's the biggest. That's like 450. There's the original room, the OR, the one that you guys went to on accident. Oh, man, I walked in and this poor kid, he was just, you know, I fell for him. He was struggling and you could tell he knew he was struggling and I was like, Santino still has to do like this stuff. And then he's like, dude, I don't think we're in the right room. We went in and boom, it was. You crushed it. That's the open mic room. That's where the young guys who were there. You were in that room. Yeah, brother. Everybody goes to those rooms. No, you don't know. Get paid. Usually you're losing money doing those. Usually you got to pay for parking or, you know, you're paying for gas parking and whatever. And, you know, so you're not making a dime on that. You're losing money most nights trying to get up. And all you want to do is do your best three minutes. Three minutes, which I couldn't. I can't do three minutes now. I don't know. I mean, we do an hour. So like three minutes. It's like, I'm not even, I said, hello. Last night, you were 20 minutes. And you could that to you. That's nothing. No, that's a cakewalk. That's that's the way we do it is like when when you start to build an hour of material, you do, you know, you I like to do it in like either four 15 minute chunks or three 20 minute chunks. So when we do the store in my mind, I do. I'll do my my my middle or my or my beginning chunk of the hour to work it out. And then sometimes I'll move bits around to see which works where better, you know, being in the OR, as you call it, like the original, right? Well, see, that's only because it was Monday on the on regular like on a unlike, you know, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and the weekends, we do. Headliners do go in there. It's just like the showcase room, kind of you're working out material. And then when you get into the main room, you know, sometimes we do both. But you go into the main room, that's more of like a show. You got to you got to you got to play a show. Yeah, I mean, you got you got everybody does. But I think you should, you know, the woman that ran the club, Pauli Shor's mom, Mitzi Shor, that was her thing. He was like, test out your shit in here and get your ass in there and kill, you know, she was like a mafia boss almost. She didn't fuck around. If you didn't crush, dude, she you she were you get relegated. Wow. This next day. Also, if you had a bad set, and if you weren't a good guy, like if you kind of had an attitude or you were just not, you know, she was quick to be like, no, sad snacks next week, she wouldn't, you would put in for spots, you know, we put in for spots before the week and then you get, they'll text you, hey, you're on Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday or whatever. And if you weren't killing, and you weren't doing good, you'd get no spots the next week. Sometimes you wouldn't get spots. Some I saw guys, they wouldn't get spots for a month because they weren't bringing it. Oh, and it was a dude, but it's, you know, hey, if you're not doing well on the ice, you're going to hear about it. You're going to lose an ice time. You don't I mean, it's like, that's the same world. And I think that's appropriate. Like, you know, there's if you're trying to become a professional and you're not playing to your ability, you got to go practice that then go get your ass out, go work out material, go write, and then you can earn it back, which I think was an it's a noble, it's a noble way to see who's going to really make it or who's going to really like have the balls to stick around and put in the work instead of just, you know, doing my best. It's like your best is shit. But when you say that's what putting in the work, that's hard because like, you know, hockey, you can work on different things, comedy, if you're not doing well, you got a question like, am I funny enough? Right? Like, how do you improve? Like you obviously got better. Yeah. Well, honestly, there's no secret. It's writing a lot and working it out. So you have to write a lot and go try it somewhere and write and try. I'm at a place in my career. I'm lucky. Like I built a big audience like it's different now. But when I was young, you just had to do the work and have the balls to put it out there and actually believe in it and sell it. You're a salesman, dude, you're a joke salesman. If you can't sell the joke, why would they buy it? Why are they if you don't believe in it? Why would they laugh? Yeah. So you've got to sell them like you've got to give it to them. And then I know like at my level or when you start to get an audience, every dickhead's like, I could do that. He looks so comfortable. It's like, well, that's my, you know, that's like, you should have seen the beginning. Right. Exactly. Yeah. You should have seen what it first looked like. You know, a lot of scar tissue. I was going to ask you about the dynamic behind the scenes there. So like, for instance, last night, is there about 50 people back there, like comedians between both rooms? No, because when we when we're done, we usually go home. Like with you guys, like the moment I was out, I was like, I'm out. Let's go. You know, when you're young, you stick around. But when you get older, a lot of guys married, you have families, you got other shit to do. You reach an age where you just get in, you get out. I'm there 10 minutes before my spot and I'm there five minutes after it's over. I say hi and bye to the staff. And I'm back in the whip. And I'm either at the house or I'm having dinner or out doing something else. But like at any given time in the green room, if it's a big busy show and there's people there, you want to kick it with like, if there's a guy that I haven't seen in a long time. Yeah, there's like 15 people back there kind of chumming around talking shit. And then depends on the night. But then a lot of nights now, especially as we get older, people like, I got to get home, dude, my kid, you know what I mean? I got my kids and I got to bring my kid to school in the morning. So it's not like it used to be when you're young, dude, those are the days I tell every young comic, I'm like, soak it up, man. Because when you're young, you all hang out. They go out, they all go out afterwards. They go get, they go get drinks, they go get food. They have no responsibility. They're not married. They got no kids. You know, they don't have anything. So it's like the next night, you're free. Yeah, you're free. And you know, then you get older and it's a little different, you know? But backstage, it can be a great hang. There's nights where it's like me, Kroll and Spade were busting each other's balls. And that's the most fun. Like that's my favorite shit is when we're sitting back there. They do that at the Comedy Cellar in New York a lot. There's a table upstairs. Everybody sits around and just, I mean, just shits on each other. They can't wait to find something to shit on. Like the moment you walk up, you're like, what's up? And everybody's like, would you get a haircut? And right away, you're like, yeah, I got a hair. And then it's going to open up. It opens up of just a vault of some other dickhead. They can't wait to shoot at you. Dude, they've all got guns. They're sitting there with guns. It is like the Bafia. It's insane. If you like leave an ASU going to LA, do you have that vision? Because some guys go to New York too, right? To try to make it. Oh, yeah. Or if you come to LA, are you more focused on I want to get into movies, TV as well? No, I did. Truthfully, like, okay, I'm from Chicago, but I didn't want to go home because I didn't want it to be easy because I knew I would have what lived at my mom's house. And then, you know, been getting high with the same old kids that I got high with in high school. I probably would have been lazier. So I said, I'm not going to come home. I'm either going to do like LA or New York. And I visited LA and I was like, dude, yeah, yeah, I got to do this. I mean, it was I grew up in shit weather my whole life. So I was like, I want to kind of live in nice weather. So when I left Arizona, I was like, I want sunshine, man. And out here, yeah, it was a wealth of opportunity of like, TV was booming back then. So it was like, if you're funny enough, you can get on, you know, you do you do a Conan or you do Leno and you can get on an audition to be on a TV sitcom or something. I mean, that's not what it's like today for those guys. But that's that was the hope. You know what I mean? I was like, oh, I want to get on TV, get a credit and then start touring and hopefully get on Comedy Central. I mean, that was our is no Netflix. There was no specials. Comedy Central was our North Star. If you could get on Comedy Central, that was the move you wanted to get just for laughs, which is a festival. And then you want to get a, you know, a 30 minute, you know, a half, well, they used to do things like lounge lizards, these 15 minute spots, or they did another one called like a night with or something. But that's what you wanted. Like I got my first half hour on Comedy Central. I filmed it in Boston. I filmed my first I did it at the El Royale, which is across the street from the Wilbur right behind the Royal Theater. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, it's like behind the W right on that same block. But we all filmed our half hours there. And that was like my first. That was my first like big TV stand up thing, you know? And then you think, dude, I got this. It's home free, but you're back at the courtyard, Marriott jerking off in the hand. Same old story. Nowadays, these kids like for you going on Leno or those shows nowadays, these kids just want to get on your podcast or Joe's or Theo's, right? Well, yeah, because those shows are gone. I mean, you know, like for me, it was Conan or Letterman. Yeah, I didn't really care about Leno show, not no disrespect to him, but like I always loved Letterman the most. So I wanted to get on Letterman or I wanted to do Conan because Conan was here. So I got Conan. I did that. And I never did Letterman because by the time I was like submitting for Letterman, it was kind of the end of that rain. And so that that that that thing I wish I did, that was one thing I wish I had a feather in my cap for that. But yeah, nowadays, kids want to come on bad friends or they want to come on. They want to do Rogan or Theo or Segura and and Bert's thing. That gives you more resonance in the comedy world. But also do late night spots, guys still do them. I just it's just not they're different now. It's not what all the viewers down. Yeah, you put your special. Most guys now put their special up on YouTube, you know, like Gillis like Gillies are one of my good friends and Gillis put a special up there and these guys could look it up. It's got to have 45 million views or something like that. It's something insane. And, you know, if at the time he did that somewhere else, that wouldn't have gotten as many eyeballs. But YouTube catapulted, you know, his career and his talent. I mean, he's a raw talent. He's amazing. But like YouTube helped it to spread it on the Internet without TV. 49 million. There you go. I was 49. That's his that was his first one. That or that I don't know if that was his very first special, but that was his first that like popped. That's what really popped. I mean, 49 million fucking. That's insane. I mean, it's unheard of. Do you have one thing you look back on like that that popped? You're like, dude, this is kind of, I mean, I had a lot of things I thought. I mean, I did my first gig was my first gig was punked on MTV years and years ago. I did punked. And that was that I thought in my mind. I was like, brother, we're going to work coasting, dude. And then again, back in that courtyard, Mary, I'm jerking off in a hand towel. It's the same. It I thought that was kind of my break. And then I got a sitcom. And I did a bunch of different stuff. But like the thing truly that like really splashed my career, you know, five and a half years ago was doing bad friends with Bob. I mean, it was all going great. Like life was good. I was touring. I was making money. I was popping on TV shows. I'd get on, you know, I got on Curb. But the first thing I did, I did the office and then I did Dave. Like what is it? We did that like six years ago. We started, you know, and yeah, I read that was big for me, you know, but like bad friends changed my life forever. And did you know kind of right away that we got something here? Yeah, it sounds stupid to say yes. But yeah, dude, I did. Like when we sat down and we did our very first episode, he came on my podcast on Whiskey Ginger and we couldn't release it. And we've talked about it a lot. People like release it. I was like, brother, it's just so raw. It's well, we got into it like a, you know, we were like, who could say the most foul shit? It was insane. We've talked about it. We said the Wu Tang unreleased. Yeah, you can release it now. The guy, I don't know, brother. It's probably not a good idea to release it now. We might buy it. So you know what I said? I go when my career is like done, done, and we both said this and we don't give a shit. We'll we'll we'll somehow auction it or sell it and put all the money to charity. So then it's like, are you mad at me? We donated every dime to that. And they're like, it's the most offensive, crass, disgusting. And I'm like, yeah, but it goes to the kids. You know what I mean? Like the hospital got the money for the kids, dude, racism for the kids. Were you were you like not as receptive to the podcast world because maybe you're a little foreign to it? And you're like, what's all this? Or like, were you like, Rogan? Rogan was our, Rogan truly started the wave of comics doing it. And he always pushed like when I was young, I used to open for Joe. And when he first took me out, man, and I was so gently like genuinely so appreciative of like him taking me out, we played a bunch of theaters and treated me great and was always like, dude, you got to start pods because he had been doing pods forever. And he knew, brother, he was way ahead of his time. And he was like, you got to do it, man, you really got to do it. And I was like, I don't want to, man, I don't have the equipment. I don't know if I have the money to start it. I don't have the, I don't have anything. And he kept pushing me and being like, I don't give a shit, dude, just scrounge it together, do it from your house, do it from your garage, like just do it anyway, do it from the store, do it, you know, so I started it. I started my, my whiskey ginger, like, I think it's got to be like seven or eight years ago now. And I did it in an animation studio in an office. I knew a guy that worked there. And after hours, he let me use the code to go record in there because they had like soundproof rooms. And I'd go record in there. I'd have to, sometimes I'd have to fight with a janitor would be coming in the little, the little lady, she's like, you want, I have to clean up, I have to clean. And I'm like, can we record and you come back? She's like, no, I will come now, I have to clean. So some of the recording is like, but that was the beginning. Yeah, that was my guess with the vacuum. Were you just like, were you saying jokes or were you just like talking about anything? We just, I knew I wanted to do a comedy podcast like about the whole impetus of my show of whiskey ginger was and still is. I mean, but just a lot of people are sober now was we would have a cocktail whiskey. We'd have, we'd have a drink and we'd talk about the very first time you got wasted, you know, like the very first time. And what was that like when you were a kid? Like, what was the first time that you know, because I started the show telling a story like the first time I got wasted with my buddy Matt on every, and we stole, you know, a bottle from his old man and got fucking hammered through up everywhere. And I was like, everyone has these stories, the first chunks of times that they got hammered and how they stole it from an uncle at a holiday party, blacked out through up, you know. And so it was that. And then it curved into like, you know, tell the first story of the time you, you know, you got wasted and then what's your life like now in comedy? So I was interviewing comedians and, you know, and then it's then it grew. Then it got, you know, actors and athletes and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and whatever, whatever. But I knew I always liked it, but I didn't know. I didn't know it was going to be a part of my career. Yeah, the biggest part. Yeah, I just wanted to do it. But now it's the thing. It's the way we talk to the people, you know, because I'm not, I don't like the, I'm not good on Instagram and all that bullshit. I'm not really good at it. So now I'm like, well, this is it. If I'm talking to them every day, if I can crack a couple of jokes or try out shit on the show, that's what we do. And what you told us last night about what you've added to your live shows, that's unreal. Like, we do an interactive thing when we do bad live. And we probably won't do Bad Friends Live again for a while, but because we have to plan a new tour. But we do this thing where when you sit down, we run a video, well, we run some of our greatest clips, you know, and we run a video and in between the video, there's a big QR code and you can scan it with your phone and it brings you to a site and it prompts you with like, hey, do you have a secret hidden talent? You know, like, you think you, you think you know the episodes better than someone else, we have a trivia and they can win prizes and all this shit. I told you guys last night, the hidden talent was in almost every city, a girl would be like, I can queef on command and we'd be like, we got to see it. We got to see it. And the girl from Denver, you come on the tour with us, dude. Queef on biz, queef on the biz. What's the biz? I prefer the squirters. Oh, you do? Dude, we can prompt them with that too. Who can squirt on biz? Let's up our game. We'll get you in a little kiddie pool just to keep it cleaner for the staff. But the girl who queefed the funniest man was in Denver. I don't remember that girl's name, but man, she was unbelievable. She wasn't shy at all. She grabbed the mic right away. She got down in the position. She gets in to suck it in and Bobby got on the keys and they played like rhythm and she could like like to the beat box in her. Oh, she was beat boxing. Yeah, she was beat boxing. Yeah. She was beat boxing. It was wild. But so we got our fans. The reason is because our fans, the way we grew that show was we tried to make it fan interactive and like, you know, not like in the comments section, but more like, how do we like call the fans? How do we have bits for the fans? And when we did the live, I was like, we got to let them be on stage with us and have a little bit of fun if they had something fun to offer. You know, we didn't let everybody up, but we had the producers would go through free show and they'd be like, all right, we have this, this, this, this, and this and who do you want? And we'd figured out, dude, sometimes we had, we had guys at the end of the show, we sing an improv song together because Bobby's really good on the piano, like phenomenal. What a talent. He's Asian. What a talent. Yeah. They don't have a choice. They made him play. What a, he's one of the most self deprecating intelligent people in the world. Intelligent, no, but self deprecating. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, he's got. He's an idiot savant. That's what he is. He's a brilliant moron. He's he is. He's a he's an enigma. He's, I mean, he's my best friend and I think he's a genius. He's a comedic genius, but he's got all these hidden talents. People he wrestled in high school. His brother was like a state championship wrestler or something. Yeah, it was crazy. And he played piano and I thought, what if we do the live element because we used to do it on the show? And he would just improv a song and we would sing. And one time we were in Nasty Hall, Toronto, and we called up this kid who could play who was a who was a musician and dude, he blew the room away. I mean, it was like, I couldn't believe it. I was like, we're telling fart jokes. This guy can really sing, you know, and we put him on the spot, but we'd have fans interact with us and do these moments that are like, you know, forever embedded. And luckily, we documented all of it. So we put together a documentary and I don't know what we're going to do with it. Like we don't know yet. We just wanted to capture all of it. So we've got it. And then maybe we'll throw it up on Netflix at some point or something. I don't know. Keep it like you're. Can you explain, retell what Bobby's days are like? No way he's away. I think I asked you. I think I asked you, does he watch like football? Football? Soccer? The only sport he likes is soccer. But he sleeps till about two 30 or three PM. He's 54 years old. Oh my God. He plays video games because he plays video games from 10 PM till, you know, three, four in the morning. So then he sleeps till three or four PM. He'll waggle his way to the podcast and then complain, I haven't eaten all day. It's six 30, dude. And you haven't eaten all that place, play, play video games all night, does the pot and then he goes to the store and he does it all over again. Now he's single. So he's going on dates and shit. Now he's got to be, he's got to be a gentleman and take girls out. But he takes his girls to the same four spots. That's the funniest part. He takes them all the same for restaurant. He likes major Domo downtown. He likes that. David Chang's joint. He likes to go to he loves, he loves the Koreatown because all the Korean barbecue, he loves those because he, you know, he, he likes the atmosphere of that. So he goes to like Cho Son, Gobi, he's there. I'm naming all the spots. You go there. You can see him on a case. How attractive are the girls that he's bringing up? Probably rock. Phenomenal. Yeah. I don't think he's, I don't think I've seen him. I don't think I've seen him with anything less than like an 8.5. I don't think he's even, I don't think he ducks below that. I just want to see that conversation or hear that conversation. Like what the hell are they? He shows me all the girls and he shows me what he, I sometimes on the show, I'll read his DMs, you know, and it's just, it's zero effort. I mean, it's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. They'll be, they'll have some great banter and then he'll go. We'd be completely, we'd be completely. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They'll have great banter and then he'll go, sounds good. And then she'll say like a whole thing and he'll go, okay, that's all it is. I mean, good for him. The kids got, the kids got, the game is no game. Right. The game is, do you want to hang out? And if they're like, well, I'd like to get you know, then he doesn't respond. Do they go in and he's gone? And then they're back a few weeks. Yeah, they pop it. They always do. They go, they always come back dude. I was going to ask you about maybe like a situation where you, where you bombed or it was like just your, your, Oh dude, we bombed so much when we're young. I mean, I'll give you a funny story about when I, about me and, uh, me, Gary Veter, shout out Gary Veter, one of the funniest comics, New York guy, me, Gary Veter and a couple other guys were going to Vegas. We got a job to do a corporate gig. Now corporate gigs, dude, most, they suck. They suck because it's a bunch of suits. Free money though. It's a ton of money. So you'd have to do them. So you're already in your mind. You're like, this is going to suck shit, but whatever. It was a trip to Vegas and I was with Veter and I was like, dude, this is going to be great. We're going to get stakes, get hammered, go play cards. So I go out there and it was for Jim Bean. And I'm thinking, this is right up my alley, dude, a bunch of like old Southern boys, whiskey, drinking Southern boys. I was like, I'm going to kill. We go out. I was playing that first podcast with Bobby Lee. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, they'll love all that. I like when you say those bad words, man. You can say that around me, dude. I don't care. So we go out to Vegas and we're backstage and Joel McHale was hosting the whole weekend. You know, Joel's like, he's real professional. He's a TV host guy. He did the soup for years and funny guy, very funny comic. And Joel comes backstage and he's like, what's up boys? I was like, what's going on? What's wrong with you? He's like, I've been here for two days hosting this. There was like a weekend of partying for them. And I go, man, you look like shit. He's like, oh, yeah, I can't wait to see you eat it out there. I was like, I'm going to kill, dude, you're out of your mind. And then he goes, okay. He comes back. He comes back. He goes back on stage and then I look out and I'm like, what the fuck is going on? No life out there. Bro, Jim Beam got acquired by Centauri whiskey, Japanese whiskey. It was 180 Japanese businessmen. Oh, no English. No English. Sitting in circular tables, eating steaks. They're half of the guys to us. Yeah. My Bobby Lee nightmare. Yeah. They got their backs to us and I was like, holy shit. And I went out and tanked. I bombed in a way that I couldn't believe like 12 minutes felt like seven days. And I could do it. I was eating it, eating it, eating it. And I'm not going to be able to say it and you'll know why. But I bombed Vita did Vita did better than me because he saw he is just so they're not understanding. They're not laughing. Are you don't relate? Are you kind of now trying to amuse yourself because you just know you're not going to get it? Oh, yeah. I'm just telling I'm making myself laugh. Okay. Not a one of them is laughing. And then Alonzo Bowden, who's a phenomenal comic, Alonzo is like, gotta be six, six, six, five, big tall, black dude. I mean, big dude, like big, powerful presence, hysterical. And Alonzo is there. And at the corporate, a lot of times they're like, don't cuss. No dirty shit. Don't cuss. Like, keep it as clean as you can. You can say a few words, but they're like, don't get dirty. I'm not dirty anyway. But like, you know, I was like, all right, we'll keep it tighter. So your mind is thinking about it. Alonzo was like, fuck this, because he saw how bad everybody was doing. So he gets out there to a room full of Japanese guys and goes, you all ever seen an N word this big before? And they lost it. I was like, that's all I need to do is say the N word and then I would have killed. He crushed, dude, he crushed, he crushed because he was like, no, I'm going to say whatever I want. You know what I mean? And that's the code. That's kind of the secret code to young comics. It's like, you never change your act. Do what you always do. Don't get in your head. If they, if they, if they like it, they like it. There's almost nothing you can do in those situations. If I was bombing, I feel like I would just hate the people that are out now. Oh, you do. Oh, yeah, you do. I want to kill everyone. You think about, you think about gasoline in a match in the middle of it. You start shitting on them. You do pick on them a little bit. But then if they're not liking your act and then you're picking on them, brother, that gets cold fast. Yeah. I mean, the biggest mistake young comics make is, you know, it's usually a drunk girl. All right. I'm not being a pig, but it's almost always a drunk. A drunk dude, you can shut up pretty fast, but a drunk girl for some reason, man, that's like their superpower to be like, and then you got to understand that. And then you start shitting on her and you make her look dumb and then everyone feels bad. So then it gets lower because then when you, when you just when you light her up, then she's like hurt because a guy you light up and everybody's like, fuck that dumb ass. You light up a girl. Everyone's like, that's mean. It's like she was talking the whole show, but then the mood goes out. So now at this stage in my life, dude, ignore. I don't, I don't, I may chat with someone for fun, but I'm never going to, I don't shoot in anybody. That's not my shit, dude. You saw, I go up there, I tell my shit, I move on. I may say something to someone for fun, but it's more they're in it with me versus like, look at that stupid fucking hat. They're enjoying it and you're bringing them in a little bit. I'm not into picking on these guys. Dude, they, these guys, these people, they paid real money. They got a sitter. You know what I mean? I don't need to also make fun of how fat that guy is. He knows he's fat. You know, he got, he left the house that way. So like make him laugh and then send him home instead of like, you know, I don't like that the thought for me was always like, is the drive home going to be uncomfortable? Is he going to be in the car being like, well, that guy was a fucking dick. And you know what I mean? Like, and his wife was laughing as you were, she was losing it. Yeah. I like that guy. He's plotting to kill me. Yeah. No, I'm not interested. I don't, I don't, it's just not my style, but some guys are, you know, we talked last night about Aries Spears. Aries, dude, he loves that stuff. Like Aries was the guy, he had the girl with Down syndrome in the crowd. The clip is bananas. If you see it. Oh, the one he just dropped, you were saying. Yeah. He, there's a girl with Down syndrome in the crowd. Then he's like, I know, I never had one of you at my show. He's like, you come fuck a black guy, I'll reboot your system. He's like, oh, wow. Okay. But the girl loved it. She loved it. But he, but he does that. That's Aries is good at that. He likes kind of talking shit. But it's all from love. He's not hate, but like, I can't, that's not, it's not my style. He's the one who does all the impersonations of phenomenal. He does the great. Tony Soprano. He can do, he can do anybody. He can do, I, that guy is, he is him, Jay Farrell. There's a couple of guys that can do anybody. I mean, there clip where he does like four rappers back to back to back. Snoop. Snoop. Jay Z. Yeah. There's a, yeah. Two pot may. I don't know. Four good ones. No, he's got, but he's super town. I never got into that with that impression thing I couldn't do. You mentioned you were into sports big time growing up. Were you a big hockey guy? I always loved hockey, but I never, I never filed it to the, to the degree that I would say like, I knew what I was talking about, but I always loved to go. Like if we ever got to go, I'd love to go and I love to watch it. I just wasn't like deep embedded in it. Like I was for basketball and baseball for me where everything, we grew up, my dad's a die hard Cubs fan. We grew up die hard baseball. Have you done first pitch there? I did this last year. I did a first pitch and I sang the stretch, which to me, when the Cubs emailed me and we're like, Hey, we want you to sing the stretch first pitch insurance agents get to do that. That's not even, but seeing the stretch that was to me, that's like as a Chicago kid, it was like, Holy shit. Didn't your dad say like, Oh, you finally made it. You finally fucking made it. Yeah. Literally the email, I could show you the email return says you finally fucking made it. I was like, well, dude, I mean, I've done television and film and the career is good. He's like, that's all bullshit. Singing the stretches legit. Your dad sounds like based on what you're saying last night at your show and to us at dinner, like probably like how you're so funny, right? I mean, the guy sounds like a complete character. Material. Yeah. Like there's no way that you've come out the way you have without some. It's most of me making fun of him because he's a dude. He called me this guy calls me this way. He called me at like nine in the morning and he's like, we just got back, you know, we got all of our tests done because they're old now. They live at the doctor's office. And he's like, and the tests are all negative. And I was like, great, you know, that's great. And he goes, all right, all right, bye. I was like, all right, man, text me. I don't need you to call me at nine with negative results. Like because I'm thinking when he called, I thought, fuck, something's wrong. That's my first thought, you know, it's funny because I said it last night, you become your parents' parents. And that's how they would have thought of me. Like if I called them, you know, at a weird time, my dad would have been like, what's wrong? Did you do? No, my dad, no, what's wrong? It was never it was what the fuck did you do? Because my whole childhood, you know, it was always me getting in trouble. You guys were fucking trouble makers. There's no way you weren't. He's bad. He was probably the worst of us three. I was not great. Constantly in trouble. I just didn't know how to avoid. I loved it. Yo, the best. It was just like a student. Like as soon as we could drive, I was like, dude, we can we're going to get so much fucking trouble. Oh, yeah. We used to we used to my buddy, Tyler and I, we used to get stoned. And when there was just like fresh snow, there was a field by my high school and my car was rear wheel drive. So we'd we'd fucking get stoned as shit and do donuts just for hours in that motherfucker. And in the cops would come, we'd be ripped off our fucking heads. You know, we're like, oh, sorry, sir, we just we got lost. You're like, you got lost in the field. Yeah, we just took a wrong turn. We couldn't wait to do something stupid. I mean, dude, I was selling weed in school like a bozo. That was such a bad idea. Studying for your ACTs. Yeah, studying for ACTs. Yeah, study it hard. No, I didn't. You know what's so funny? I talked about that the other day. I didn't sell weed to make money. I sold weed so we could get free weed. I wasn't an entrepreneur. I like if I had any business brains, I would have tried to make money. I just did it so we could get high. It had nothing to do with like turning a profit. I was probably the worst. I was probably losing money and still selling weed. That was your crew of friends, like the funniest kids in school. And was there one guy that because everyone has their one buddy at home that it's like this dude is so fucking funny. I was probably that guy. I mean, I was probably the biggest goof ass. But like, I had a lot of eclectic, interesting cats. I mean, for me, it was like I was a pod head. You know, I was a pod head who played sports. So like I would hang with a lot of the dudes and get high and do drugs. And then I would go do sports too. So like these two I had two groups. I kind of touched a bunch of bases. Like a lot of the guys I hang out with that would play sports. They they drink maybe, but they didn't want to fuck with drugs, you know. And then the other guys I'd go dance with if I wanted to go really have some fun. You know what I mean? If I wanted to put something in my throat and disappear with Shantino we get into that. Yeah. Well, honestly though, because that was in fact, dude, I quit sports. My senior year, I quit basketball before drugs. I mean, I had a joke about it where I was like, once I found drugs, I was like, see you later, basketball. I'm six one and white dude. It ain't happening. You know, what did I what did I want to do? D three. I mean, your senior year. No, I wanted to party, dude. Yeah. Yeah. Also, sports to me was just something I loved. But I was like, I didn't want to commit to this. I didn't want to do it organized for the school. I just would rather play like a guys league because I was like, what, I'm not going anywhere with this thing. Why am I way I'm not getting yelled at by a coach. I'd rather go have fun because I had no future in sports. It was just for fun. So for me, I was like, I still want to get high party and do my thing. I'll just play a men's league. If you don't know, I'm see a dude way more fun than like going to work out on their schedule. I didn't have a future guys had a future. I was like, you got to you got to get don't get high with me, dude. Go have go do the workouts because you know, you're six four and black. I'm six one and see through. I'm not going anywhere. Two points a game. You know what I mean? I was like, brother, this isn't happening. Yeah. Coming off. No, staying on the bench. Garbage time, dude. I got the bottom of the barrel. They'd like, Santino, get in there is six seconds left inbound the ball dribble. You know what I mean? Like I just it wasn't it wasn't happening. Like when they let the ball boy come in like the last game of the year. Yeah. Keep with Down syndrome. You go shoot one shot and then it keeps missing, but they keep giving them the rebound. That was made it. You would have blocked that. Yeah, I would have bought 100% dude. They got to know what it feels like. You can't let them win all the time. No, I yeah, I gave it up because I knew and I played intramurals in high school and I mean in college just because I loved it. But that's I just knew in high school, I was like, I'm going to do something in the creative world of like comedy or writing or even when I was in high school and I was filling out college applications and they were like, what's your future? You know, what do you want to be and all that shit? Even then I posted it one time that I even said I want to be a comedian and a comedic actor in the creative comedic world of whatever creating or writing or performing. I knew I wanted to do it. Who was your like idol then? Jim Carrey. Oh, fuck. He was Jim was like the god to me in living was that in living color? Yeah, dude, I used to sit in my mom's basement and watch me and my best friend, Sean, we would sit and and and rewind the tape till it went dead for dumb and dumb. And we'd rewind the scenes. We'd we'd play them out to each other. I mean, I would we'd watch that movie for like six hours straight, just like doing the scenes again. I was obsessed with him. It was crazy. And then God, I don't even know how many years ago he became my boss. I did a show called I'm Dying Up Here on Showtime that was about the comedy store. It was kind of a drama, which it was a little strange. But Jim was the executive producer. So I got to work with my with my idol, which was really fucking mind what happened. Like he kind of like isn't isn't in the scene anymore. I didn't he get a little blackballed after I think he just kind of disappeared at some point. You're like you. He's so much money. They either shoot you down or you leave on your accord. You know what I mean? It's like he probably wanted to just like go chill. Yeah, he had made all the money, all the fucking money. Yeah. And so why not just go sit in Malibu and paint? He's a painter. He's like a phenomenal painter. Really? Yeah, he just wants to go sit and paint and do his own thing. I think you get tired of this bullshit game. Yeah. And when you achieved so much, like that guy did, you know, between like Dumb and Dumber, the Mask, Ace Ventura, Lyre Lyre, and those are in a chunk liar liar. And then you're talking after that. He did Eternal Sunshine and the Truman Show. And I mean, brother, his his resume is bananas. So you've reached legendary status. It's either they start hating you or you go, I'm going to take a I like I'm going to walk my dog. You know what I mean? Like, let me go live my life. The one year I think you had the Mask, Ace Ventura, and maybe one more where there were the three. Yeah, they were back to back to back in one year. Yeah. So like you said, one year. It was like a year and a half gap between them. Yeah, he was the biggest thing. And like, where do you go from there? And like you said, it's like route, you rather kind of say, Hey, I'm in control of this and I can walk away. I was going to ask you. So you mentioned curb your enthusiasm. Yeah. You played a pretty big part in Little Dickey show. Yeah, that where he was manager is manager. Yeah, that one. What was the most fun that you had doing one of those shows? And are you able to kind of like write what you want to say? Or, you know, in curb in curb Larry, let you do whatever you want, which is kind of rad. He gives you like a the way you audition is they give you like a character description, right? Like, it would be like, you know, it would say like X NHL player with a bad leg. That's all it would say. And then you'd have to make up a lot of and you'd have to make up the whole narrative. And so you'd have to do with Larry. And they would give you kind of the idea of what he likes the scene to be. And then you fly. And the original character I was going to do on that show was if you saw the episode, the guy who had the dog named Adolf. Do you I don't know if you remember that? Yeah. Yeah. That was that was why I love that show. I first auditioned for that because I could speak a little bit of German. When I was a kid in Chicago, I went to school called the Sal and you had to take a language as like a kid. They've mounted to do dual languages. So my mom put me in German, like a lunatic. You're like, mom, Jesus, I know, I know. I know this kid's gonna be. She goes, I don't want you to have any Jewish friends. So my God. So she put me in German and I knew a little bit. So I was doing it in the audition and Larry was loving it. And then the casting director, Alison Jones, brought me outside and she was like, you know, we like you, we want to put you on the show. Larry says, you don't look you don't look Aryan, dude. You don't look like a, you know what I mean? They want like a blonde hair, blue eye, like the stereotypical joke of like Hitler's dream. You go, the red hair thing is not going to sell them. And I was like, yeah, that's I get it. And she's like, but no, he wants you to put something else. So he's building this thing. He's building a toilet at Latte Larry's if you saw the series. And they want you to be a plumber. You can play a plumber. And I said, that's fine. So I went in there. I did the bit. He cracked a few times. I made him crack, which was awesome. It's going to be huge. Yeah, I'll do to change my life. The two people I made crack that like really made me feel something in the moment, like an improv was him and Julia dry fist. I auditioned like six times for that fucking show. And they never gave it to me, which is yeah, which is nuts. Whatever that guy. Because you made her crack. I'm making her laugh was a great moment in my career because we were improving. And the joke was I was a new intern and the building was closing down. And I made up this whole scenario that someone had clogged the toilet, it overflowed and shit's dripping through the vents. And the whole roundabout was at the very end admitting that I was the one that it was my shit dripping through the vents. And she was cracking up about it. We were laughing. And after that, I thought, I got that gig. And they called and they were like, no, I think that I think they want to change the character. But when I but I but I think Julia is a fucking genius. So making her laugh was great. And then making Larry crack making Larry Lauer's not like making Jimmy Fallon crack. No, no, he has to he doesn't have a choice to yeah. No, with Larry, he doesn't he doesn't want to laugh like you know, you got to it's got to be great because his goal is to stay in the scene. He doesn't want to laugh like that's going to ruin the he wants it like the more awkward the better that 100%. Yeah. So that was great. But then with Dave, you know, Dave let me fly pretty free on that show, you know, like we had I had lines. But the reason he hired me is because he liked me and was like, I want you to he's fucked. He doesn't stand up. No, no, no, no, no. Rap and no, he just like he was a rapper who's a he's a comedic rap. You know, he's a comedian at heart. He really wanted to be a comic his whole life and and loves rap and was great at rap. So, you know, that was kind of his path. But Dave let me fly as free as I've ever flown on anything. So he was great. I mean, I love it. And I wish we did more, but we weren't going to it just wasn't going to happen. You know, like I think FX wanted to do it one way. He wanted to do another way. Everyone started to break off. I went on tour. I just don't think it was going to happen. You know, people to this day are like, when is it going to come back? I'm like, brother, that was a good show. It was a fun show, man. It was fun to do. Would you say that you've reached like the pinnacle in comedy? Like you're one of the top dogs. And if not, like, what would you say like is one thing that you're looking to achieve? I don't know, man. Like I've done a lot of things that I feel like I really wanted to do. There's no like place I want to play. You know what I mean? There's no like doing this. I do the Chicago theater every year. And that's for me is like, dude, I love it. Every year I go back. It's like the greatest moment at home. Everyone comes out. We throw a huge fucking party to me. That's that's that's my that's the thing. Like for me, it was never like I want to play the United Center with the Bulls. But like arenas are cool. But my thing was like, what in my career did have a piece of history and influence on what I did? And that's what I wanted. And I've done a lot of that stuff. I don't think I'm done. But like, you know, I don't have like a lofty I need to do this before I die. I just want to keep making people laugh and to run and having fun growing. You know what I mean? But I don't there's no like I got to do that thing. You know, like I I touched a lot of the things I always wanted to do already in my career. And I just want to continue on that. And then it's going to change. Right. Who knows what the fuck this thing is going to be in a decade. You know, so we'll see. I mean, I don't know. But I've done a lot of the things that I kind of wanted to do. The only other thing I thought that I wanted to do was, you know, when I was younger, I wanted to do SNL. And I tested for SNL. It was me and my buddy Dan Soder, shout out Dan Soder and Pete Davidson. And then Pete's the kid that got it. And I flew to New York to the audition, flew home, they called and they were like, Lauren wants you to come back to New York and have lunch. And then my whole team was like, this is it, baby, you got it. And I flew back to New York. He makes you wait forever. You know, this whole game he does. And I sat in his office and we chatted. He was very nice, dude. I mean, I love the dude. I respect the fuck out of what he built. And he's the man. He was like, look, I think you're great. You're going to have a great career, but you're not the puzzle piece. I think I'm looking for, so to speak. You're like, dude, I didn't have to fly back for that. 100 percent. Could have called, you know. At the Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, bro. Yeah, dude. Why the fuck did I fly here? But I mean, I respect the guy because he wanted to see me again. And I actually, even in the time I wasn't bitter about it, because I was 30 years old. He was like 19 or whatever the fuck he was when he got that show. He was a kid. I had already been on TV. So for me, it was like, I get it. I wasn't bitter at all. Like me and Soder, I got why we were older than he wanted us to be, you know. The only reason Soder and I were up for it is because he wanted like a guy's guy, a guy who like plays sports, drinks. He wanted like a will Ferrell archetype in his mind. He wants a guy again. And he went with Pika's Pete was young and malleable and cool. You know what I mean? He was like a cool kid for the youth. We were, we were just a little bit older in the middle. Yeah, it was just different. It was just a different time. And that show is built for young people. That show is not made for that's why people in their 40s are like that show sucks. It's like, yeah, it's for high school kids, man. Oh, it's not for us because you liked it the most when you were in high school. But do you feel that when it was in its like best days, though it pertained to like also the 40 and 50 year old? I think when it's even in its best days, it's still always played to a younger audience. We just think about it differently because we get older and the show gets younger. OK. But but, you know, like Farley days, you know, like like those days, everyone did culturally like it. But that's because the culture of comedy was different than it is now. I just my dad liked it. Yeah. That's also because that was going on in culture where like they would write sketches for everybody. Like, you know, my dad and I still, you know, will all quote, you know, everyone knows the bears. Everybody knows the super fans. But that's because it was a cultural thing. But now they write for young people because it's just the time. Times are different, you know, but I still respect this institution. I still loved it. That was the only thing that I thought would have been fun to do. But now, you know, I'm 42. This might be a dumb question. Is there a more mature like sketch show? Like, is there a different one? No, and they do have sketches for they're not just talking to the youth, but I just think they angle for the youth. You know what I mean? It was a big yeti or like the Stanley. Yeah. But is you think there's an opportunity where maybe like some of the older vets that are, you know, maybe even I mean, Keen Peele did a great job of that when their sketch show was definitely for not high school kids, I would argue. Like theirs was for in the 20s and 30s and a little bit up. You know, Chappelle show was probably the greatest sketch show that was ever created of all time. And that was for literally anybody that was that was literally for anybody. Crazy. That was for people that just wanted to laugh at something. The black real world with the two white. Oh, bro. Get the fuck out. You actually told us last night, you were talking about whoever went after you, like it was hard, you crushed it, you know, and like they're come on after we were saying like, before you go, do you want the person in front of you to do well? Or do you actually want them to do bad? And then it's easier for you. You were saying I want them to give it their best. Fuck yeah. And then that time you, who else was with you? But Chappelle was the last guy. Chappelle, Chappelle loves to put people in front of him who who like the last show that we did together that I went out to Dave's, I did the summer series out in Yellow Springs. And, you know, it was like me and Gillis and and DeRosa. And it was like he he loves people to get out there and to smash because he's such a confident legend that he's like, I don't give a fuck how good you do. I'm going to do better. I'm still better. Well, yeah, he's the guy. So like, you know, it's cowardly to me when you bring people that are weak on the road and a lot of headliners do it, you know, and they bring people that you know that, you know, they're not going to do that good. So then you look better. I think that's bullshit. I want to bring people that I think are phenomenal comics, you know what I mean? Because you want your game. Yeah. Well, like, look, when you guys, when you're playing, you the playing to the level of your competition is a fact. And in our world is playing to the level of your peers. If you're with shitty or comics or you're with people that aren't as developed, you might not do as good, you know, like it might set the tone in a different way. You want people to kill like you want you want people to smash so that the room is hyped and then they're prepared, then you better bring your good shit. Yeah, it better work. But that's the pressure you need to be good, I think. So she's a pal. She's a pal. He's got a shit in the middle of the show. Yeah, that's okay. That's why we got three of us. Yeah. Yeah, that's fine. We don't need them, dude. Yeah. But she pal she pal is Dave is like one of the guys you know, my respect level for Dave is is I can't articulate. I think he's one of the most generous, nice, cool guys at his level who could be a dick if he wanted to like he's so big, he doesn't need to like he doesn't need your adoration. He doesn't give a you know what I mean? Like, he genuinely is a comedy fan who loves comics. He loves the world. And I think he's birthed something amazing out there in Yellow Springs. He lets people come out and play that club and play the field in the summer series. And he makes a community. Do you know what I mean? Is that in Ohio? Yeah, Yellow Springs. It's Columbus is I think the closest town. It's like an hour or something away. When he did the special where it was outside, what do you mean? In the summer series, he built like this pergola in a cornfield. And I don't know how many people it sits, maybe a thousand something like that, maybe a little bit more. And they literally built like an outdoor like amphitheater. So it's his like it's his Rogan's mother ship. Yeah, but he also has an indoor club. He has the firehouse, which used to be a firehouse in Yellow Springs. He turned it into into the club. But this he does in the summer, the summer series is outside. And we've done both. I played both. But it's I don't know, do the guy wanted to make a community and bring great comics and put on a phenomenal show. And I think it's it's just red. He's supported and Rogan's the same way. That's why Joe built that club. He believes in the community of comedy. And he wants people to come grow and create their own world there and kill. And, you know, Joe likes that too. Joe always put Joe Joe always put hitters in front of him. So does Gilles Gilles Gilles, you know, put me and Tony Hinchcliffe and DeRosa. We just did together. Like the best comics always want good comics in front of them. Yeah, that's a fact. Like it's just your comedy like in line. Like last night, like incredible jokes about Mexicans, about a black pilot. And for a while, like it kind of changed a little bit where you just couldn't say things. Maybe I'm wrong. But now it's like switch back almost. Well, it's almost like people were I think like I think like we never changed comics never changed. But like, the perception of comedy changed because of the internet got nervous about who was going to be judging and all that stuff. And I don't think we've ever been restricted ever. I've been the same comic I was from the beginning. The difference I think now is people it's more than than us. We're not afraid to say shit and comics say whatever they want all the time. A lot of them say real out of pocket shit. But but for the most part, it's more the idea that the crowds were afraid that if they liked it or laughed, were they doing something wrong? Like the internet kind of did something to people's social meters. And they were like, peeking like, is that okay to talk about? It's like that's on them. Like we were just there to like talk shit about something that's happening and give levity to something either fucked up or dark or weird or and the crowds are the ones that shifted a little bit what you're talking about. But it's all come back as people have realized like that was that was fucking weird time. Well, COVID fucked people up. Yeah, everyone got fired and everyone was like panicking about the world ending. And so I think it did something to the society of comedy, but not to the comics. We were just we were sitting in the foxhole doing the same bullshit, just waiting for it to happen again. You know, we're that's all we're doing. But yeah, it was never I don't believe in the you can't say what you can or can't say. I've changed nothing. I've been the same guy for you every comic I know, who's working. They're the same. They didn't fucking shift because this was just a moment there like it was a moment in time where I feel like the audiences, the crowds and the internet were telling people one thing that wasn't really real. It's the same way I feel when somebody says like, you know, people have their ideas and you guys probably know because you when you tour when you play, it's like you have your idea of a city and then sometimes you go play, you go damn, this is way better than I fucking thought. I think this but I thought that place is going to suck shit. Then you go and the people are great. Fans are wonderful. They come out and see you there. They're they're more in tune to your to the comedy world than you thought. I mean, I think when you go meet the people, you realize the internet is bullshit. You know, perception of like, you know, that's a that's a liberal place and that's a that's a Republican place. That's all bullshit, dude. There's everybody's everywhere. And most people kind of feel the same, which is, you know, let everyone do your own thing. Leave me alone. I just trying to raise my kids that go to work. You know, like most people are like, I laugh. You leave me alone. We're just trying to have fun. I don't want to be judged. The people that are talking shit online too. They're probably not even the people coming out to watch you. No, they're everyone that's sitting online doing their best to take, you know, to throw their negative opinions on everything. It's like every fucking every sports journalist and critic and, you know, everyone that's got the biggest mouth probably does the did the least. You know what I mean? Like the guys that probably talk the most shit probably contributed the least. And I've talked to a bunch of I can I can attest guys on this podcast. I was playing three minutes a game. I'm like, this guy's not a first line center, but I like when you're gonna hit the hundred point mark again. When you get in fights, it's good though. When you start, you like to start shit though. That's your thing. Did you wonder what you mean when he fought your cousins? Well, you fought my cousins? The Irish travelers. Oh, yeah. You don't like those guys, right? Yeah. No, I was at Houston's and they fucking were picking on the manager and then they fucking bootfucked my head and at the CVS. You beat up five of them though. Yeah, I'll show you. You got down five. No, I'll show you the clip after. Okay. Yeah. Anyway, the Irish travelers. No, it was I we found out later on that these guys, it was like a bunch of drunk guys on a golf trip. So the video came out later. They were at a place earlier on the golf course and they were trying to close them up for last call. And then one of the guys like sucker punched the one of the servers, a woman. She took shrapnel from it, but he ended up connecting with a guy. So she got it to whatever you want to call it assault. So they ended up coming over to I think they ended up going over to the roost Chris and then they ended up at the Houston's and I'm I just, you know, I my favorite restaurant. Favorite restaurant. I eat there like for guy loves Houston's love it. Are you Houston's over Mastros? Oh yeah, just because it's way less of an event. Right. I got you. I don't need the fucking lady playing the piano. I just want to go on a huge I don't need fucking. You know, you do the yeah. Yes. You go up to the piano, you give her a couple of bucks and go take a break. You don't want to hear attorneys go, hey, my friend Bobby's going to come in. Yeah, this 60 year old dude with the fucking 25 year old, you know, only fans model is going to love that one. He's there to get his entertainment, but long story short, I always smoke a little bit of a J go in, eat my food. And after I ordered there, fucking nine of them were surrounded, one of the managers and I mosey on over and I grabbed the guys arm off them and then I'm like, Hey, you guys keep doing this. We're going to have issues and that the minute that left my mouth, I got up. And then next thing, you know, it was like the chicken and Peter Griffin. Yeah. But this is my favorite restaurant. So I was speaking of fights. I was going to ask you, we talked about how you don't go after the girls and sometimes it's funnier to make fun of the guys. What are the most intense situations that you found yourself in? Because there's alcohol in the mix. Oh, yeah. Maybe other comedians stealing other comedians joke where there's you've been you've been stolen. Yeah, I've never been stolen from ever. No, I've never been stolen from. But I have seen that, you know, the comedy store is a home to some of the greatest fights of all time. I mean, really? Arie Shafir punched Bobby Lee in the face was probably one of the greatest. Were you there for it? No, did I wish I wish I was there? Heavy weight fight. Yeah, because Bobby, because Arie's girlfriend was cheating on him with another guy that Bobby introduced her to. And he got the gruff for it. So he's sucker punched the fuck out of Bobby. I mean, dude, they didn't talk for years after that. But there's been at that club, there's been a there's there's comics over the years, you'll have beef. But like, I never had like any guy from the audience ever charge the stage. But that's happened a lot to guys where they get into, you know, it's happened many times in that OR, where some drunk fuckhead doesn't like that the comics making fun of him in front of his girl. And they charge the stage and they start a little baby war. I never had to deal with any of that bullshit. Like for me, I never had it where I got into an argument with, you know, with someone and it turned that south. Because I just it's not my style. The only time I had a tough time, I played a gig in Long Island. And is when I first started out, and the owner had all his like, you know, Guido fucking buddies, you know, yapping it up the whole time, I can say that, dude, I'm Italian. You know, he had a bunch of whops at the table. And they were, you know, and they were there, you know, and I would, and they talked to the host, they talked to the feature, I said, the guy was like, man, you got to get rid of these guys, man, they're fucking wasted, man, they're young. He's like, no, they don't leave, you know, they were his people, they were like Long Island locals. And then I went up there and I was like, now you're going to talk the whole time, I'm just not going to do my show. And I sat on the stool for like 30 minutes, just like, and they were just kept talking. Yeah, just having a cocktail. And the guy was like, that's the most unprofessional shit. I was like, you left those guys in the room. And the guy was like, you'll never come back. And I go, you know, I'll never fucking come back here. And I haven't been back, bitch, about that. I'll never go back. Fuck that place. Buy it and fire them. Yeah, no, that, you know, that would be fucking red. No, he just the way he handled it sucked. And he said it was my like, as if I did anything. I was a young comic trying to work, you know what I mean? Like all making probably 1200 for the weekend of shows, you know what I mean? And that's a grind. That's the hardest 1200 you ever fucking made. You're staying right where the Coliseum was to for sure that marry in the parking lot. Oh, bro, the worst. You're always you're always facing a highway or a or a fucking sassad of shit or a Pepsi machine or some bullshit outside of your room. You can hear the buzz of it. You know what I mean? Like those those days were the that's the tough because you got to do two shows Thursday, two shows Friday, two shows Saturday, and sometimes they make you do Sunday. So those was a grind, man. And you're eating shit. Those are, you know, quarter sold out rooms, quarter sold rooms, sometimes less. You know, they had to pick we call it papering, which means giving away free tickets. So they paper the rooms. And you're not making it. You're you're making $1,200 the hardest way you can make it, which is a week there. Plus you had to pay for your flights or try to get, you know, try to get driven somewhere if it was a drive. And then plus, you know, food in the hotel. I mean, you know, a lot of times you're cracking even on on some of those. Any of those times we're like, I'm not doing this. No, I'm not. I never even thought about quitting. No, because because I would just I would have a day job. I would have a gig to make money to pay rent. I wanted the job to make money in comedy to be my life. And then, you know, then you learned then the levels start to change at some point. But no, there was no moment where I was like, fuck this, because part of the suck is great. You know what I mean, especially because when you're young, you know, you'll go out with locals, you know, you'll end up underneath the pool table in Missoula, Montana after doing some whippets. You know what I mean? Like there's some nights I had some fucking great nights, you know what I mean? Where you end up at some house party and oh, bro, there were some wonderful nights on the road. Like it's part of the experience of the group. Now it's that's what I said about before with young kids. We young comics. I'm always like, enjoy this ride, brother, because it doesn't like what I have they want. But what they have, I love. You know what I mean? Like it was awesome because for me now, I go to a nice hotel. We have a nice dinner, go to Houston's crack one out. And then I go to the show and then I go home. You know what I mean? Or we go out. What's your order? What's my order? Houston? Yeah. I'm usually I like a prime. I'm a big prime rip. Oh, yeah. Prime. Your salad is the traditional salad with salad after. Why don't they the Houston's get your shit together? Name a salad after the kid. What's your salad? What's in traditional salad? It just that's the one on the menu. But how do you make it biz worthy? Oh, this could be an hour. I get it. Can I get a Caesar salad, but no Caesar dressing, no Romain. I want he changes his he's the bad order. That's not a bad order. I imagine you tip well. I do. All right. Yeah. Well, then oh, he's I do. What do you mean? I'm a 20. Yeah. All right. Well, you know, what's funny is when we've talked about this, when you literally on the nose, I'm doing a contract. Yeah. All right. When they know, when they know who you are, you got to tip more. Oh, yeah. We don't. We were the worst because like comics, when they know who you are, you better fucking tip good. Okay. You you don't have a choice because you don't want to get back that they're like. So what do you go? What do you go to 25 percent? It's always bill dependent. It's how big the bill was, right? Like but but you know, like you can't have a hundred bucks. You're throwing 30 on there. If it's a hundred dollar bill, I'll probably you probably give 30 or 40 bucks. Yeah, cash. But I always do cash. I don't tip on the thing. You do the cash. Even though not well, that's ultra. That's from my dad. Only because now they don't tax tips. Now, right? Didn't they change that law? Trump changed that. Trump did that. Yeah. No taxes on tips. You can get this tip for I never thought we were going to get a Trump impression. Yeah, you got one. This tip for free, little lady. No, yeah, there's no tax. You can only do the rest of the pod and trouble. No problem. Busy, busy, busy. Have you met him? I know. Well, no, I never met him, but I saw him get out of a fucking helicopter at his golf course. He landed on the seventh on the seventh like fairway green split down in Miami. One. I got another one. Yeah. Dude, he landed in Miami. It was wild to watch. They brought in the choppers and shit. It was so fucking. We were playing golf. He was president. This happened. This was last year. We were playing golf. It was before the live event. Yeah, before the event, we were playing golf and I was out there with Fat Perez and Pat Perez. We were about we were going to film. We were we were shooting like set up stuff. And this one guy's like, get the fuck off, get the fuck off. And I was like, fuck you, we're supposed to be filming like I'm talking shit. And then he starts to walk towards me. I'm like, there's a big fucking weapon. It was a big fucking dose. A big dude and all black. And he's like, get the fuck off now. And I was like, whoa, and he's like, the president will be coming soon. Get off. And I was like, say less. I don't want to be choked out. You know what I mean? Like this dude, because they they have all these local private security, then comes in secret service and then comes in his security. That's also with him from the golf course. Like he's got four levels of people that are like the amount of people you see when he gets in there. It was I could honestly maybe 100 new people. And it happened like that. It was like, whoa, what the fuck? Like you looked around coming out of the bushes. It sounds like I'm joking. They literally come out of the fucking bushes on the golf course. And they were like, down, down. So we literally sat on the fucking grass. I'm sat down. See my ball. Yeah. Yeah. Is that a title list? Leave the title list if he's landing there. Fluff it up a little bit. Give me a good line. I played my course, Jordan's course and Obama's been playing this while he wasn't even president in their secret service everywhere. It's like a tough place to like derail at the Grove, right? Yeah. But like just coming out of everywhere, you're like, holy shit. Like their security is I heard a rumor. I'm not going to say the course because I don't want to get my buddy in trouble. But it's the only time that there was a group. There's like a big ball group, you know, like in the morning, like all the boys go out and it's like a huge, you know, it's like your team versus team versus that team. And it's got to be like six or seven fours and and Obama was playing this course and they played through. And I was like, that's the most gangster. Yeah. If you're playing through the president, that's that's the jet. They were like, you know, he's like, oh, sorry, boys. And they were like, not a brother. You got to wait. I was like, that's insane, dude. I was playing his course. So play through the president. Hey, you got to watch this drive. Obama chill out played through us at West Palm and like the 17th hole, the T box is like dead up a hill, like 30 yards. So all of a sudden, like it's very clear, like everyone moves. He just ripped his cart up the hill. Like he like the thing was ready to tip over. He parks it right on top of the hill next to the T box. And then he's just off. He just hits and then like the ball's out there and they just kick it into the fairway. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Knock it into the hole. Oh, yeah. And he's like, I shot 66. Yeah. I shot 17 under. Oh, they miss one birdie. Yeah. It's all funny. It's like they say that dude, he takes the regulator off the golf carts, go his goes a little bit faster than everybody else's at all his courses. So he can stay ahead of everybody. You can't. But I get it. If I'm that guy, you don't get in front of me. This is my course. You stay behind me. Right. You know what I mean? Like he's he probably has to the point where he can turn on and off the carts. You know what I mean? He'd be like, wait, you know what I mean? Yeah. Shut this down. Shut him down. The other is what color are you? You little dark little dark boy. You fully white. I only like you if you're fully white. He's not. Yeah. What are you, this? I'm my mom's half black. I'm. Oh, that's the end of the show. No wonder you were half late to this podcast. Oh, no. I was here before five though, Mr. Trump. Oh, that's what they say. I don't know. Where were you downstairs? I was putting one in a towel just like everybody Santino. Yeah, Mr. President. I respect that Santino. I love that little orange freak. I love that little boy. My little Cheeto puff. I love that guy. Yeah. We saw him get out of the chopper and I was like, holy shit, dude, it was fascinating to watch him descend upon the golf course. And also that course, that Trump in Miami might be the hardest course I've ever played in my fucking life. It's the blue monster. That's what's called water everywhere with wind traps everywhere. And there and there isn't a short hole. I think the par threes were like two 30. I was like, this is a fuck. This is dumb. It's well, dude, the pros. So we're I played that week with fat and paparazz, John Rom, and I did one more and all those guys. And these are the best in the world. And all those guys were like, this course is a bitch. And I was like, if you're saying that, I'm going to get eaten alive. I'm glad we're talking about golf because you you actually have a show as well. Oh, yeah. No bad lies. No bad lies. I've seen a few of your guests, a random one Ben Baller. Yeah. Ben Baller. Well, Ben Baller in the LA world of golf, everyone knows the guy, man, because he's around. He just really started to like get into golf like big time. I mean, like, that's all he does. He plays like four days a week. And it's funny, man, because he's one of those dudes he's like in LA, everyone kind of knows him. And because of Bobby Lee, I'm like plugged in with the Asians. Yeah, they love me, dude. I've got the past. He's got he's always blinged out whether it's jewelry. Did you see that on the episode he talked about Kanye tried to commission a swastika out of diamonds from him. We talked about it in the episode where I saw Kanye was like, I want a swastika full of diamonds. Ben Baller was like no way. And I was like, I know a guy who's German, you know what I mean? How much he offered? He didn't even it wasn't even a number. He didn't even get around. But some guy made it. Some dude actually made it for him. Yeah, I have it. Kanye gave it to me. I've got it. Yeah. Insane, though, dude. The guy wanted a diamond swastika. Yeah, I was like, brother, this guy, well, somebody told me the other day, Kanye apologized to the Jews. Didn't he do that? What did he say? Sorry. Met with a rabbi there. That's why he wore his chain. Yeah, yeah. But you're doing you do the the voice of Bobby Lee's dad sometimes too. Oh, on the show all the time. And that is so fucking funny. And now you were telling us last night about your animation, your animated show. So and where you'll play his dad, I will be playing his dad because he even says he's like, I do his dad better than he did his dad. But his dad, you know, his stories were I never met the man he died when when when we started the show. And I never met Bob's dad. They lived down in San Diego. I met his mom. But I never met his father. But you know, his dad, he had a tough it was tough for him. Like his dad was a little, you know, I'm not I don't want to speak out of turn, but his dad was a little bit tough of a father, probably a little too like, too many hands on, you know, too many hands on deck. And and Bobby had a weird relationship with him where he loved them. But it was a lot of trauma. But his dad, you know, his dad was, you know, he's an immigrant that he said some choice shit to say. So like Bob would have guys over at the house, and they'd be like playing music. And he's like, are you gay? He's like, no, he's like, if you gay, I kill everybody. I'll kill all of your friends if you gay. He's like, I'm not gay. He's like, if I find out you're gay, I murder you cold blood. But he would say that dude that his dad would say that shit. Dead serious. This isn't he's not doing it for a laugh. And Bobby's like, I'm not gay. He's like, it was dog or something. Oh, well, dude. Yeah, they just yeah, they let the dog go. The dog. The dog story. Yeah, yeah, the dog. He his father was a dynamic personality. I mean, Bobby can tell all his dad stories. I don't want to step on his toe. Why you came home one day and it was like surf for dinner. Oh, it was yeah. It was appetizer. The small dog. Not a lot of meat on that thing, dude. It was stuffed with kimchi. Oh, yeah, you gotta get stomach right. Yeah, pickle it. Yeah. But he had such dark stories about his dad. So when we saw the animated show, which hopefully, you know, hopefully it's gonna it's gonna come out. We'll buy it. Yeah, I'm hoping dude, I'm hoping. And yeah, the pitch was, you know, I play his dad because we loved it. That's I play his dad's ghost on the show. So his dad is in an urn and the urn talks to us, you know, and gives us advice and shit in the pilot episode. His dad, I'm not going to give anything away, but his dad does his dad is our the pilot episode. We have to do something for his dad. Unfinished business is the name of the episode because he did something on earth and we've got to fix it now from the afterlife for his dead father. And he's telling you guys, he tells us what to do. I can't tell. I don't want to blow it. I don't want to blow what it is. Can you give us a few other yeah. Yeah, it's fun though. It's fun shit. But like that was that's that, you know, that was kind of the growth of the show was like, because all these stories we had from high school because high school was wild. Like, he was a great musician, who was like a music nerd, comedy freak, and was funny and goofy and crazy, but also got a lot of trouble. Bob was a drug addict, you know, Bob sober now. But when he was in high school, I mean, he was smoking crack. I mean, he I mean, he would do anything that kid would do. And when I've seen him relapse, I mean, holy shit, it's a miracle he's alive almost. Yeah, dude, I put him in rehab twice and we're never going to do it again, I hope in my heart, because I love him so much. I care about him so much. But when he was in high school, he can't you know, I think a lot of the trauma he suffered, he started doing a lot of drugs and he loved to get fucking just gone. And you know, what would Bobby's dad say about the drug use that he was aware of it? Well, yeah, but you know, what's so funny is like, it, I think he I think his dad spoke with his hands. I think his dad spoke with his hands about drugs. You know what I mean? It wasn't like a, you're in trouble now. You know what I mean? It wasn't that fucking bullshit. Like, you know, I think he got I think he got the worst end of it all. Like with my parents, it was like when they caught me smoking weed for like the 50th time, you know, my mom was like, you're going to grow up to be a nothing if you continue on this path. Look at me now. You still smoke? Yeah, I like to get high, but I don't get high like I used to. I mean, I I used to perform never. No, no, not before I performed. We talked a little sass, you know, a little sass. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's funny guy. Francis, we sat down with son of a boy dad and he was talking about how early in his career he would like have Celsius before he would go up. So I don't know if when you started, I always have a I like that a cocktail doesn't mean I mean, you know, I could that's nothing for me. That's kind of I'm Irish. Yeah, that's a part of it. Like I can have a cocktail on stage or not. It doesn't really matter to me. So it depends on the day and if I'm feeling it. But like I used to work out shows and I would smoke a joint and work out shows. But now I like to get high at night to level right. I don't want to. Yeah, I love to I love to get high and right. But I'd rather get high when I'm no work. When I'm when I'm like it's that's like my glass of wine for an old white woman in the suburbs, you know, like I want to smoke a joint, play with a dog, watch, you know, watch sports, and then peel off the bed. I don't want to like get high and then go work. That's kind of the opposite for me. I used to be that way. I mean, dude, I started smoking when I was 15 years old and, you know, I have operated high all day long. That's all I did. You know, and then until I was about 33, 34, I started to be like, all right, man, let me use it as like a as my little treat, you know, so at night I'll get I'm not waking up and smoking anymore. No, no, no, I just I got shit to do, man. I mean, you know, some guys can do it. Dude, there's a lot of guys that that's how they live. But I just feel like for me, it's like, no, man, I got employees. I got responsibilities. Like for me, it's like when I get home, I'll also there's nothing better than smoking a joint and taking my dog for a walk is like that's my dog walking is my wish I could do that. Oh, yeah. Dog walkers. That's okay. This gets his dog. We heard about it last night. And then it gets his dog. Oh, you guys, you guys are talking about my dog. Yeah, we heard about it. Get the fuck out. How did my dog come up at dinner? How did that even come up? This guy, it's all he wants to talk about. Yance, it's all you want to talk about is how my I think I brought it. No, he didn't bring it up. I didn't bring it up. Well, I definitely didn't fucking bring it up. It was probably his friend. He brought that it heard Yance talking about it. Yeah, I think it was. Oh, dude, is that oh, yeah, that is probably true. My buddy who's with us. Yeah, he's a big fan of the park. Yeah, that's actually that's probably what it was. Like that's the guy. He was really heartbroken. He didn't come over and say hi. He was pissed. He was not happy. Yeah, I was kind of in the big dog mood last night. That's your one dog. You got left. Yeah. Don't actually fuck. I had one. Yeah, I've had a few and got them taken. When you do the show with Bobby, like, is there any outline? There's not like, yeah, no, we do not for him. I mean, for me, we do a lot of pre prep with the producers over like what we're going to do depending on like what the episodes are. But I mean, a lot of times there's days where we want to fly free. Like we know what we're going to be talking about or we'll set up a theme for the show, especially if they have like scene readings or bits that we want to do and all that stuff. But a lot of times we don't even get to it because Bob doesn't want to do it. And not that it's like if we're cruising and we're having fun, we just never get around to it, you know, like, but that's kind of the beauty of that show. It was always that way. We would set up a bunch of shit. And if we didn't get to it, we didn't fucking get to it. And that was free for all. Yeah, sometimes because if him and I are humming, forget about that. That's the goal. Oh, man, if we're in the groove, it's like, there's nothing better when I'm saying stuff. There's times when I'm like, damn, dude, we're this is wild. Like because we're bouncing really well. He's my he is like my ultimate comedy counterpart. I've never I've never met someone in the business that I bounce with like that, not even fucking close. That's the best that you found them. Yeah, I mean, it was kind of gifted to us. We was right under our nose. I said that last night, but you know, his ex-girlfriend, Kalilah credit to her, she was like, you guys should do the show together because I would guest host and we would crush. And she was like, why don't you guys do the show? And I was like, I don't want to step on toes, man, you have your show, I'm doing my own. It's I don't want to I didn't want to like start beef. And for it to be like, oh, you're going to do that show now, you know, and she was the one that was like, you should, there's no reason you guys shouldn't go credit to her for real. She was great and she was instrumental in that beginning. And then when when we did that first episode, man, I knew I said that last night to you guys, I was like, that's it. We got something here on. Well, because we were we always were we all we would fight in real life. So we'd fight on the show. It worked. Carving each other. Yeah, I feel like the best. We keep each other honest. And I have to I also don't mind being shit on. Like we got a we got a sandbagger coming out with Paige Spregnac and we were watching or a Spregnac fuck, I was fucking him up and Pasha was editing it. And these guys are just fucking grilling me the entire time. And I'm laughing my dick off. Did you beat her by the way? You can't take a joke. Oh, yeah, you can't say it's not out. Yeah, thought out. I was saying I was partner. Good match. Yeah, it was a great match. I was partners with her. But you kind of touched on the Bobby stuff like, like the darker side of comedy. Like, it's like, I mean, I don't know if you've ever dealt with stuff. It seems like there's just so many highs and lows for the industry. That's probably the worst. I think you kind of pull from some I mean, everyone, I don't think you need to have a dark upbringing to like make good comedy. But I think most of my friends do. I mean, you know, like when I was a kid, you know, I think a lot of my bullshit or my view on the world comes from, you know, my group, you know, I had this, I had two worlds. I had this Irish side of my family, my mom's side as she's one of 10 kids and my grandfather was a firefighter. And that was this blue collar working world that I came from. And then my dad, my my biological father, you know, who's kind of a hustler and was a contractor. And his dad was a gambling addict who lived at that literally worked and lived at the dog track and at the horse track in Chicago. And that was this different, completely different world. And my father went to prison when I was a kid. So he was in on a jail when I was a kid was into drug addict was a drug. And he's clean and sober now. But you know, it was that was my world was very odd as a kid. My parents got divorced when I was one. So my view was a little skewed of like what was normal. I used to ask people, I was like, I want a house on the ground. I used to say that all the time. I was jealous if you lived on the ground because we lived in apartments my whole life. I was like, man, in one day, I'm going to get a fucking house on the ground. And then my mom found my dad, my stepdad, who really raised me and, you know, moved my mom out to the suburbs and my life changed again. You know, but when I was a kid, I definitely had a chip on my shoulder because my old man wasn't around. You know, I mean, I don't carry it with me like I used to. But yeah, it probably prompted the reason that I got kicked out of a couple of schools for being a fucking. I was fighting, you know, I love this to the world. I was just mad. Yeah, I couldn't wait. I have a younger sister, but she's from my mom and my stepdad, but she's nine years. So the difference, the gap was huge. I was out of college before she got to high school. So she was always my baby sister. I mean, I love we're that's my homie now. But she was my baby. You know what I mean? Like it was hard to see her as a sibling because I used to hold her and she had a thing was called a nebulizer. I used to have to give her her lungs to something with her lungs. I used to have to hold her and give her oxygen at night, you know, so like for it was different for me. My relationship wasn't like a nice one. Well, yeah, we got we did. We got there when she got older. But for the most part, it was, you know, that was my baby sister. But it makes all that in like you're talking about like the past for some of these comedians or if not most of them along with the highs and lows of like having to go out there and maybe bombing and just so it feels like not only with your past, along with the industry, it can make for some heavy, heavy up. Oh, yeah. I mean, look, dude, you you either you either it either it either make sure it breaks you like I've seen it do both things. I've seen a lot of guys you've probably seen some pretty talented guys that so many that didn't make it too. So many. I've seen so many guys. I've also seen a lot of guys make it and then get in their own way and fuck up their opportunities. Yeah, because they were they were that you know, you rest on your maybe in sports, you guys have to see that in the league. You have to see guys that think they're the shit that they've gotten a little bit of the taste. And then they get passed by because everyone else is putting in the work, you know, like it's it's just so you know, that Rick Ross line is one of my favorite lines when he was Kobe, you know, Kobe's about to lose 150 m's. But you wasn't with me shooting in the gym. That's my favorite fucking life. No, that was that was that Drake who said that I believe Drake had to apologize to wait, that wasn't Rick Ross. That said that. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But you wasn't with me shooting in the gym. I was like he was a different line. I just love that world of like, yeah, dude, you and it's not even a comment about the that relationship. I'm saying that click to me of like, whenever somebody says something like, I just you pop that a nowhere, it's like, dude, you weren't with me in the fucking gym. You're crazy. Yeah, it's the same thing. I talked to I was with a buddy two weeks ago, a pro athlete, an ex ball player. And I said the difference between us because he was doing a similar comparison of like, you want to know more about our world? I was asking about baseball and he said, he's like, but then why is it? Why is it that people feel like, you know, they can do what you do? I said, because they can they know they physically can't do what you do. Like every dickhead knows they can't physically do what you guys do. They just do. If you ever fucking got on the ice, you know, you can't do what you guys do. But with us, they can see us on a stage and they go, I tell a couple of jokes at work. I can fucking fart and do a microphone. So like ours just looks so easy, but they don't know what the workouts are with you guys. It doesn't even matter what the workouts are. They know they can't do they just know they can't do that. So they put us in this weird category as a professional sometimes where they're like, I can be funny like the fuck you can because you've got to put in 10,000 hours at shitty little clubs at gunning and running and constantly riding and moot and taking hits and taking losses. You're taking so many fucking else when you begin your career. And so unless someone's in the gym with you and the only other people in the gym are other comics, you know, they don't know. Is there one one guy that you would say was like the natural who maybe didn't have to go through that type of grind who made it to the top? No, because anybody that's good did the grind. Right. Chappelle was 16 years old and he was doing comedy when he started, but he still put in those work. He put in all that work. He was like flying up to D.C. Yeah. When he was a kid, dude, when he was when he was a high school kid, but he still put in the work. He was still grinding in New York. Like I don't think there is a story of that he made it overnight. Now he's a superstar. Like a freak athlete. What about life? Not right. Yeah. I just kind of like, oh, like couple years didn't really have to grind that hard. Next thing you know, he's like, you know, it never lasts. How about that? If that does happen, it never lasts. But but right, dude, right. But in the work, that kid, but that's another thing. He was in the gym. People don't know that. I met that kid out here when he was a kid, dude. He was a kid. He came around the laugh factory and, you know, young babyface kid and sweet, just the sweetest, nicest kid and was working to that kid. Fucking work. But people saw he blew up on the Internet and they're like, oh, man, right. It's like, nah, brother, that fucking work. OK. Now, whether or not you like his shit, whole different story. Like if you don't like crowd work or you don't like the way he performs, fine. But that kid put in work. I mean, I don't like Gilly put put in crazy work. You know, Gillis blew up in the last five years and people are like, this guy came out of nowhere. It's like, no, motherfucker. He was he was he was eating it like we all ate it grinding, grinding, grinding until finally he could shine, you know? So I can't name one person that like was given the the free key or that happens in like acting like, you know, they'll give some dickhead a role that's never done shit and they explode. But that's that world's bullshit anyway. What about like seeing talent where, you know, all of us have seen like first time I saw Crosby. It's like something different there. Have you ever seen anyone that you're like, oh, this kid's unbelievable? Oh, yeah. I mean, you see that when you're young, you can when we're all young, we kind of know we don't know who's going to be a star, but you know who's like got the shit. You can feel it. You can just feel it like when you guys would see someone that you're playing with, you go, motherfucker, it's different. It's fuckers good, dude. If they have they got that extra step, you know, like there was guys like that that I you will I always kind of knew, you know, like, you know, like a Bargazzi's massive, Nate always kind of had Nate was always very talented and you could tell he was very smart. And he knew where he was going. Sebastian Manascauca was a guy like, even when he was grinding, you knew he had something very special. I you can't really thumb it, but you're like, these guys are good. These these guys are undoubtedly good. You know, what's he making a year? Yeah, what are the top they released it. So I'm not talking out of turn. But I think Nate last year made 80 million. It said 86 million or something. He's the highest paid actor. He doesn't stand up. He doesn't stand up. He doesn't stand up. He doesn't stand up. Excuse me. Well, here's why, though. He doesn't swear. No, no, no, he's clean as a whistle, buddy. He doesn't matinee show. He'll do like a 4pm show because you could bring your you could bring your aunt and your kids to his show. It's all ages. So he'll do the reason he makes the most money right now is because he is doing sometimes three arena shows because he can do a four, six, and nine, you know what I mean? So most guys like like Gillis, you know, it's probably an 18 or older show, maybe 21, but probably 18. And, you know, you're doing one arena show a night. Now could Shane sell more? Fuck yeah, he could sell more. Shane could. Shane can sell. He's doing like three gardens or four gardens back to back to back. But, you know, Nate can play for a wider audience, right? Like Nate can do you. You could I can bring my aunt, who's, you know, who's like, doesn't I the word shit? She's like, oh, my God, you know, like you can bring her to nature because he's not dirty, you know, so to be funny like that, I think he let me tell you something. He's found his way to do it in a way that's I mean, it's proof is in the pudding. The guy is killing it. Like he's found his audience and he's cruising. So who's the Madascarco guy is Sebastian. Yeah, yeah, he's an Italian kid. He's from Chicago. Yeah. A lot of guys Chicago, Chicago puts out monsters. Deon Cole is one of the funniest fucking guys on planet. Yeah, Chicago for years has always had it's it's well a lot of those guys and a lot of guys to move to Chicago, right? Like Tina Fey and Will Ferrell and they like move to Chicago to do Second City. But that's sketch and improv. But stand up wise. Yeah, stand up. Chicago's had some phenomenal stand up comics, but it's it's always been kind of like a good gut of comedy because Chicago is it's like it's a good piece of the of the East Coast, even though it's not the East Coast, they think we are out here. These fucking goofballs in California like we go back to the East Coast. I'm like Chicago's not that's not on the coast, buddy. But they think water. They're everyone out here is a moron. But Chicago's like the best nugget from the East Coast and from the Midwest. It's like it's a Midwest city. So hi, how you doing? But it's Chicago. So it's got like a good age. Yeah, it's it's dirty. It's we come from gangsters and crooked politicians. So naturally, the city is the city is going to be crooked as fuck. I mean, you know, they're sweet people, but you know, they're they're a little fucking shaky. And we got we got great gang violence. We're number one. Nobody beats us. What a best dude. Shirok. We're number one. You got a voice for that. Get shot. Get Rob. Get shot. Dude, I don't don't wear a watch out in the streets. No, no fucking way. Huh? No, that ain't fake. Dude, I can I can see it from here. Don't do that. I see the reference number on that thing. Um, fuck, man, this is unbelievable. I hope we get to do it again. I hope we get to do it. Boys, we're going to play golf. We know we got fucked by LA, but we're going to we're going to get it together. I promise we're going to play a little golf together. But who's the match going to be? Have we decided? I think you're going to get stuck with me. No, that's not stuck. Well, you bring to other attitude that we want to have. We get out. Bring two guys or you play with biz and play me and Keith is Bobby Lee. Good. Oh, I want to play with biz then. I want to play you got me and biz. How about this? I'll bring this will be fun. What if I bring one guy as a like rogue and you guys get to decide how many celebrity shots he gets? I love that. Is that a good idea? Yeah. It's Bobby Lee. I will. Well, no, we don't want those shots, buddy. That's not going to fucking you. That guy jeans at the golf court. He wore jeans with Bryson DeShambo. Okay. He called him. He called him bison six times. I go, that's not his name. He goes, I thought that was like a nickname bison. I go, no, his real name is Bryson. He thought like bison was like a nickname because he's a big boy. He goes, he goes, bison, bison, come here. And I go, dude, stop doing that. Bryson loved it. Did he? Oh, dude, Bryson ate it up because he Bobby is a fun little toy. He could do whatever he wants and stuff. People are going to be like, he picked him up and he walked him up hole six. He put him on his shoulders. Yeah. And at some point, Bobby was like, put me down. He wouldn't put him down. All right. We got rollback. Last question. Use chicklets on rollback.com. 20% off your first purchase through the end of the week. That's C H I C L E T S on R H O B A C K.com. 20% off polo, shorts, hoodies and more. We've talked about our white whale guests like kind of Joe Thornton right now. We have many others for chicklets. Do you guys have one on bad friends? Ooh, that's a good question. We just did Louis C K. We put out Louis, which to me is like he's like the greatest of all time. I mean, he's up there. You know, he's one of them, I should say. There's no one. Has he been chilling out lately because of everything that or is he kind of back? He's back. He's just he's selling. He's on tour doing his thing. I think he's, you know, he put out a special after everything had happened. And I think he's he's he's back in the world of like he's put in the work to go, I don't know what else you want me to do. You know, I'm trying to change my life for the better and come watch me or don't. Yeah. He doesn't even talk about any of that stuff. I mean, that's in that. That's in his rear view now. But I mean, he's Louis was to me because I admire him so fucking much. He was phenomenal to have on the show. But I think like, oh, man, who would be like the ultimate to get on the show? I mean, we've tried to put it out. We put it out for Eddie Murphy multiple times because I think he's starting to I think he did something recently. A documentary right now. Yeah, I feel like some of these guys, they were so big and they don't mind coming back around at a certain point. He would be a guy I would kill to have. I don't think he would ever do. I don't ever see him on a podcast. I mean, he did Seinfelds comedians in cars. But that's his buddy. You know what I mean? But I was also shocked to see Leonardo Caprio do a podcast. Mind you, it was that new Heights one. Yeah, it was Travis. Yeah. Leo, like those kind of guys, like that's no disrespect. I just that's not my white. Minor like comedy legends. Yeah, like I would do Eddie. I would have never seen Leo doing a pod. But yeah, you know, or I'd want Gary Busey. I want someone who's unhinged as fuck. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. You know who tried to get on our show multiple times? He kept DMing me. It was Antonio Brown. Oh, yeah. Yo, he's like, let me on the show, make it happen. And then sure enough, you know, and we were like, I don't know if this is a good idea, man. That guy's always caught up in some bullshit. He just got extradited and arrested, right? Yeah, he's wanted for murder. I've been attempted murder. That was real. Oh, yeah, brother. After it came out, he was in Dubai. I'm like, posting. And I'm like, yeah, how is this? Is that not a thing? Oh, brother, they never, you never know what's real or not. Damn, he's in one. Oh, he's dude. If you saw that video, him at that resort, like flopping his wiener out of the pool, everything I ever heard, I was like, I believe it now. Like whatever the rumors are, he was like in a pool at a resort. I don't know where it was, but he's got his penis. He's pretending like it's a whale, like bro, like breaching the water. He's like, and he's smacking. It's like a family resort. Hey, he's just going off. Man, there's kids. His kids. Yeah, yeah. He was at Atlantis in the Bahamas. He was losing his mind, dude. Oh, buddy, this is awesome. Thank you, boys. Sandbag will be great. Can't wait to do it. You're a funny motherfucker. Thank you. Thanks for the tickets last night. My pleasure. Catching up with you. My pleasure. We'll see you guys soon. Guys, let's take a minute here and talk about Noble. This episode is brought to you by Noble. Noble is a footwear brand for training and for daily life built to support you in your pursuit of physical, mental and emotional strength. Bizwear is an everywhere he looks great in it, too. Good looking shoe that feels even better on your foot. Noble celebrates a noble shit approach to wellness. 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Very funny in this one where she shows the snake and puts in that that was not AI, that was a real snake. So Pasha crushes it with those. He's getting better and better. Give him some love everyone. Don't be cautious. Pasha's the man. Yeah, it only takes him nine months to put these out too. So like it really, really be happy with him. Show me a better produced golf video on the internet. Well, I guess other than the internet andvitational, but he puts a little bit of love into these. That's why they take so much longer. I mean, Pasha, do you want to defend yourself? Scorsese movie. Pasha, do you want to defend yourself as to why these are taking so long to edit? Because he's playing tummy sticks with his girlfriend. Well, I just want to say that like other pods, like foreplay, they have three dedicated editors for these videos. I mean, while I have to produce game notes, we do two pods a week. That's a few hours per day. I'm doing other shoots with biz. Like 90% of the people listening to this right now work in three jobs just to like, you know, no one's listening to him. Pasha has no idea what goes in on the back end of these things. So I don't think he has a fucking goddamn goes into it. And he's and he's being a little bitch on the edits to, Oh, I can't have this. I have a family. I can't have it. I don't want to lose my dog. Dogs. Pasha, we love you, buddy. I love all the AI shit you threw in this one. I do so much for our pod and our brand, buddy. And although people hate your devil takes, they love the way that you go tanning. Oh, no, I did not. That's blood pressure from Yanz's text last night. I told you to take this out. That's blood pressure. That's what actually the devil pulled it out. I appreciate it. Love boys. Yeah, I love you. No love song. Yanz is mad right now. Yeah, I'm going to punch you in the face through this fucking. Why you you're I asked for one thing, dude. I asked for one thing, but you texted him and you didn't ask for the thing. You said the wrong thing. So that was on you. I don't know. The text was kind of clear. I thought, Oh yeah, read it. No, we don't need to talk about it. Just fucking go to the next segment, bring in RA. I got to leave. How mad this guy gets. He fucking abused me for 90 minutes. You could say whatever you want to me. You can say whatever you want to fucking page. I just don't want to be involved in your bullshit. I have fucking teenage daughters. You idiot. You were cautious. If seven brain cells, I don't think he'd be saying a word. It wasn't a word that's coming out. Backing off a ball is not the fucking like, like what are you talking about? Let's bring in our race world. Oh, wait, no, you can't. Hello, everybody. That's right here in the spit and chick. Let's podcast. Holy shit. Yeah, and I don't think I've ever seen that mad before. All right. It's like, have you been listening to the whole show? Yes. What happened back in the day when a kid puked wood chips? I mean, I was in a custody back in the 70s, but yeah, you were a janitor when we started this podcast. Well, custodians same thing. You put sawdust down typically, or you just mop it up. And by the way, Keith, Custys make the world run after teachers. They are the most essential part of a school. And I'm not saying that because I did it. When you do that job, you realize they really make the world go around every building, every place people clean that shit up. And it's a job that, you know, teaches you, you know, some life lessons and no regrets that I did it for many years. Shout out to the custodians and the teachers. All right. There you go, biz. We've just talked about heated rivalry. I think it was a week or so ago I called The Hunting Wives, the horniest show on TV so far this year. Well, it just got bumped down at number two because of heated rivalry. Our podcast brothers at What Chaos, Pete Blackburn, and DJ Bean, they've been pumping the tires on this thing hot clothes, no pun intended. So yeah, I gave it a whirl. I like to watch shows. And yes, excuse me, it's very graphic. Whatever. I don't like to watch anything. Not in phases. I used to watch Faces of Death as a kid, but it makes Brokeback Mountain look like a Disney movie. And it's hilarious in one regard. But it also kind of gives you some in depth look at like obviously there's been gay players in the NHL. Unfortunately, we haven't had an out player, but well, he's not Luke Prokop. Prokop drafted to the NHL. Right. But he hasn't been there yet. Exactly. He's a great guy, but it kind of presents that side too. But man, it's fucking hardy as fuck. And I'll tell you, man, I wish I had that Russian's ass. I left my ass in the womb. He got the absolute peach emoji biz. Wow. Okay. So when you like... They show hog? There's one screenshot of like, you know, he gets sexted and you can see it briefly. But no, not typically. Like I said, it's... I guess you might call Softcore and Centermax back in the day. But yeah, whatever. I mean, whatever. Maybe not for everybody. Did you ever watch like Gene Simmons' wife on those Baby Blue 2 channels? Like she used to do the Softcore? Like, did you ever see that? That? Well, I mean, I worked on those videos starting in the 80s. So I was a few levels above that back in the day. Would you see a guy like his backside giving it to another guy? Yes. It's like, so you don't see actual penetration. You don't see actual don. But, you know, there's no doubt what's going down in those hotel rooms. And, you know, it's... Like I said, it's probably typically a little more graphic than most shows. But I know, I think it's pretty good. I love how Pete and DJ are playing it up. And I don't know if you saw the... It was Pride Night at the Canadians the other night. And they actually played a trailer on the JumblTrend game. And you know what? Like shout out to the Canadians because they look man, it's fucking 2025, almost 2026. We all have gay cousins, aunts, uncles, relatives, friends. The fact that people still are prejudiced against that is just ridiculous. So like shout out to Montreal just for, you know, like emphasizing that, you know, they're just us. They're just other people. They just like different stuff on the pizza. Basically. You're saying I wish I had the Russian's ass is hilarious. That's a classic line. Bro, I get done. I get a fucking... My ass is fucking... You need him. You're breaking up all the time. Biz makes fun of me all the time. Got no butt. Pizza box us. You should get some of those bands, RA, and work your glutes. And that'll help with your L5S1 or your sciatic. If you're activating your glutes a little bit more, I think that's going to help take a little bit of the stress away. Yeah. I mean, I could do that, but this ass ain't going to blow up anytime soon. I'll tell you that. Well, it would if you work on it, you'd do the bottle service girl workouts. Now, people also said that it's like a... For people like who aren't into hockey, it's a good entry point who might not know much of a hockey who are gay in the gay community. No? Oh, no, absolutely. There's not many sports have a show like this. Absolutely. And my pal Sarah Sivian, she's been covering it as well. And exactly. It's opened up like new fans to hockey because there's not a lot of like, lately, like gay shows out there. So, obviously, it's going to be a big in the gay community. And yeah, they're getting into hockey. And it's so simple. I mean, if you're not familiar with it, I used to tell people back in the day, if you're like soccer, it's like soccer. You just got to score a goal and then not be offside. It's really that simple. Obviously, there's more intricacies about it, but it's a pretty simple concept of the game. So, Hey, the more the merrier, man. That's what we always say here. I just googled Gene Simmons wife. It's a Shannon Tweed. Yeah. And then I did Shannon Tweed soft core porn. This is not this is not soft core. Oh, by any of... She used to do soft core porn. All right. This is this is hardcore. Like, so yeah. So like, what do you got? You fucking you pulling on there? Like, yeah, no, I Google image Shannon Tweed soft core porn and the pictures. They are core. Okay, my mistake. I thought she only did the skin and max stuff. But yeah, because like people think that soft core is actual porn, but it's not. You need to I mean, there's an old Supreme Court Justice who said, I pull about porn, you know, when you see it. But, you know, if there's no actual penetration, if you don't see things going into other things, it's technically not porn. But apparently, I guess she did go to the full Monty. So don't wait. All right. I guess the rest of the pod here to stand up these images, we move along here. And listen, boys, I had one of the best days I ever had, not just since the show started, but in my life. We had the team Shoezi versus the Provence alumni the other night. That's awesome. And you know, I yeah, that that get up is a shirt. That's the see-through dresser. Facts, buddy. I think you got I think it's just got to be a plain white shirt. Right, bro. I yeah, I couldn't fucking find one when I was getting dressed. I'm bent over like Yoda with my sciatica. I needed to get the hell out of here. And I've done it enough times where it's almost become like my thing. I suppose you got to keep the jacket on moving forward. You got to keep the jacket on so you can't see that. No, no, that's not that's one of the hospitality suites downstairs. Oh, God. Yeah, that's that, you know, I on time close parents there. Just before you say anything about the day. So Ryder skated at intermission. I missed them, man. No, no, no worries. But what I was going to say was that he came home and said, Dad, that was so fun. He said it was packed and all the players on the ice were having the best time. That's what I got to kick out of. I was like, Oh, what do you mean? He's like, they were just laughing the whole time. All the players like they were having so much fun out there, which makes sense based on the show and like all the Bruins alumni. But for, you know, a kid who just turned eight to notice like how good of a time that all the players in the ice were having, I can't imagine you behind the bench weren't having just as much of a ball. Do a what? I mean, to have you know, have my name called out in the Pia, you know, Brian, rare album McGonagall and to be able to like point to my parents and blow a kiss and wave. It's, I mean, you guys, you know, obviously had your names called the Zillion times and, you know, probably get used to it. I've never had that. And it was great. And the second best spot was during warm ups, you know, big Z. He's, you know, he's on the alumni team and he was, you know, doing a lap and we caught eyes and he skated over to me and said, Hey, what's up, how are you doing? And it's like, you know, I mean, we've done the show a long time. I never assumed people remember us. And I said, you know, I fan girled hot go. I said, Hey, Z, congrats on the Hall of Fame. So well deserved. And I just want to tell you, thank you for what you've done for this team, this city, this region. We'll never forget it, buddy. And it was just awesome. Just to have that moment. And then like, you know, raise a hit to Ray Croft. He's such a hot chip, man. Love him. Say hello to him. Is it true Z got hurt? No, no, no. He had his, I think his kids game. He had a skedaddle off too. So, and then, you know, someone said it was like, someone legit said he might have pulled his back. That was my son. Okay. He hadn't left the game and Rodgers had out of him like, buddy. And oh, it was kind of funny because one of my buddies on the show as he team, well, he's, he's a fish on the show. Jacob Smith, his name is he, for whatever reason was trying to say, hello to, I guess the Z and he gave him a little bit of a slight hook. Z did not take kindly to what he gave the daggers back to the bench. I'm like, bro, what the fuck did you just do? He's like, oh, I just was trying to say hi. And he just, you know, he didn't like, it wasn't a penalty type thing, but he throttled him enough to get Z's fucking daggers on the bench, which is kind of hilarious. But if you're like, you know, Colt, no Andrew Fremont's awesome. Have a chat with him. Timmy Sweeney and then in the handshake line after Joey Bauer and I say, you know, we've had him on the show before and gave him a big hug. It's just, just such a special day. And, you know, I was such a small pot on the show guys, like, you know, a minimal pot, but it's such a special family. And when you're on set, whether it's for two days, two months, whatever, it does become a bonding experience in Terry Ryan. You know, we had him on the show before Shoezi come, but between our show and Shoezi, he's become such a dear friend. And I love the guy. He's just such a pure, awesome human being. And those are great piece. I know you mentioned it the other day. An ESPN written by Otter O'Cal, just about Terry's, you know, voyage, you know, he got drafted in the first round and things didn't pan out the way he had hoped. And he's just never, he never liked, you know, more was me. He just kept chucking along and he's done what he's done. And it's great to call him a good friend. He was living out of his car at one point. So like, just the fact that he's fucking like turned his life around and everything's going his way. And he's, he's thriving and shining and other movie opportunities all over the place. It's awesome to see. And he's very appreciative too. Oh, he's the best. That's the best. Great family, good person. So like thankful like to us when Chickalts cups happen. And yeah, that's awesome. And you know, Marastie was there too. I always love hanging out with him. And it's just too like another thing. You know, we were in the hospitality thing after him. You know, my dad had been the garden since the Bruins raised the banner back in 2012. And I think he'd only been one of the time when Big Walt was in town back like the late 90s. But like, he's been meat on the stop fucker, the family, not my dad, but he's been waiting to meet Chad for years. And Jared, like, it wasn't a hey, how you doing? Nice to meet you. He sat there and talking with the 1520 minutes. Andrew Ferrantz hung out with my dad for like a half hour shoot the breeze. You know, I got to introduce him with Joey Mullen and Kerry Fraser, dad's a huge hockey fan. So just like I said, man, just an awesome special day. And I've been I've said this to you before. I mean, this is the best way possible. Canadians are fucking animals, man, when it comes to getting you guys just have a good time. Yeah, have a good time. Those guys are East Coasters. So they're different breed. Yeah, it was such a great time. So anyways, we can move along. I just want to get awesome RA man. It's good to get out of the house and see buddies and, you know, get out of your regular routine. So fuck good for you, buddy. Dust off the straight out of Compton shirt and wear it as an undershirt. Yeah, I'm going to start doing that on on TNT wearing my fucking yeah. I'll start a trend. Why are you the only guy who doesn't wear a tie on there? I don't know. I just don't like wearing ties. Like it like it like grinds my neck and then I get like, no, like a choking thing. But like you like no, not not particularly me. Yeah, you guys. I don't mind it. I don't. I don't really like business cash. I don't know. No, I didn't know because you were the only guy. So I wasn't sure. I think talk it did it early on and I'm like, oh, can I like get away with this? And then they never said nothing. So I just did it. And like, I just hate like I can't tie a tie properly. I have brutal ties. Yeah, it's not you're trying to match them to each thing like fuck that. Yeah, yeah, I think the no tie thing it's gotten a lot more popular I'd say in the last five, 10 years than ever before. You know, because I know you like to get choked once a while, but not with a tie. Yeah. And one last thing, Jared, you know, he does have a new show. He signed a huge deal with Crave Canada. They're sort of like the Hulu of Canada. It's called I Kill the Bear. It's about a family of bear wranglers on a film set. And he's got some major stars. I'm not going to spoil a little bit of it, but it's going to be coming out sometime next year. So it's just like I said, it's great to just play in his little sandbox. And he's just the best dude in the world. So thanks. Thanks for letting me. How do you watch in the States because season five kicks up kicks out on Christmas Day. So when does it eventually come out in the States? And like, where do you find it? It hits Crave up in Canada at Christmas Day. And then I believe sometime in January, it hits Hulu down here. So it hits Canada first, then it hits Hulu down here. So okay. Yeah, yeah, it's great. Like I said, great stuff, great to be a part of. And the people, the Shoresie family, absolute fucking best. So moving right along, we've been talking about the NHL, the ice surface. Guys, I honestly don't typically side with the IIHF, but they've confirmed the ice surface are going to be smaller 196.85 feet by 85.3. They've said basically they agree the difference is insignificant and should not impact the safety or quality of gameplay. And I agree with them. And I, you know, obviously played street hockey down the gym, down the street, but I don't think 18 inches at each side of the rink is that much of a difference. And Keith, I'll ask you, is it going to affect any guys, any players particularly? Is it a benefit to any guys? Like, what's your intake on it? I mean, it might, I mean, it'll take, because these guys are so good, it might take them a shift or two to get used to it. But I heard Brady and Matthew Kachuk talking about it. They're like, we don't give a shit if we play in somebody's bathtub, you know what I mean? Like they don't, the players don't care. We're obviously making it more of a big deal than it is. But at the end of the day, they're hockey players. They just want to get on an ice sheet and play. You just hope that it's done and you hope that it can withhold, you know, 50 games in however many days. That, that, that for me, I think is the biggest question. It's not, it's not the size of the ice. Yeah, it's more of the surface. Like how is the ice good or bad? Is it going to hold up with, you know, so many games, three games a day? Yeah, at least the NHLPA's main concern is more about the ice quality than so much the length of the ice. But what do you think they like is a specific play or a type of play? Yeah, this may benefit them in some way. Okay. Yeah. That's that's all right. You know that if Tom Wilson's not on the team, business is going to be waving the American flag throughout the two week tournament. They'll just beat this. They'll beat this like a dead horse. You said it. Buddy, I said it in jest on Merrick's podcast. Like you want to keep, you want to keep, you want to keep beating this? We can do it, but he's going to be on the team. So it doesn't matter. No, I agree too. The, the, yeah, he's having it. And like, and about Willie Toy, great guy. Like he copped out so much space for himself years ago and the league has gotten so much softer. Like he's basically got his own play pen in front of the net man. Like, I mean, that's, you know, he scores, I think he's with 17, 18 goals. Like he just, you know, he like kind of reminded me like nearly back on the day, people just don't want to be around you. Don't want to fuck with you. And you got a lot more space to score goals. So shout out Willie. And yeah, like I said, I don't think it matters. I think it's the equivalent of like shaving like a yacht in half off of football. To me, it's more about the disrespect towards the fact that like we're coming, the NHL is allowing you to use its players to now be one of the more popular. How many people watch the Olympics when the NHL guys weren't there? How many people are going to watch it because they are? I didn't watch it. You got eight years to build a rink and then you still fucking you're, you're finishing it days before they show up, which tells me that the, like the, where the concessions is the locker rooms, like I'm assuming it's going to be a shit show and it's not going to be fully, fully done. So, and then the quality of the ice. So if it's all shit and it kind of turns into a bit of a shit show, I just view it as a slap in the face and it should be a big, a big topic of conversation of how that's going to work moving forward. Because I feel like if you control the best on best and I get these guys want to go to the Olympics and experience the Olympics, they're not even going to be there for the opening and closing ceremonies. Yeah, they'll get to experience like the Olympic Village and stuff like that. But at what cost moving forward is this type of shit going to keep happening? That's all I got to say. And maybe it's just an Italy thing because they take those long lunches and they're, they're, we know that they're, they're typically a, why are you laughing? Are they not a typically a society that kind of goes at their own pace? Well, I wish in Italian we've had a love hate thing in Boston for the last hundred years. That's all little chuckle. I love my itals, but they definitely done fucked up getting this, this ring. That's what I mean. It's just a level of respect. It's like, come on here, get the best players in the world coming to perform in your country, pitter patter. Let's get out of here. We go. Hey, boys, listen, if I'm a general manager who needs a goalie right now, I would make a huge play for UC Saros, give up a couple first, a goalie, a first, a prospect, whatever. He's 30. He was peaking before Nashville hit the skids here. Right now, he's 10, 10 and three with a 303 goals against an 896 safe percentage. He's in the first year of an eight year deal at 7.74 AAV. He's a great goalie on a bad team. So he's going to look bad. His numbers are going to look bad. He does have a no move clause. I mean, that just means he has to okay his exit if you wanted to. And I'm not trying to start a room here or anything. I just think that Nashville, things are bad right now. They're 17th ranked in future prospects via ESPN. And obviously Edmonton is the obvious place that people would think and they'd have to send money out for money back. But I don't know, man, I think if I'm a GM, get this guy on a good team. I think we've seen it before like Corpus Salo, for example, he was on Columbus, not great numbers, then he went to Ottawa, not great numbers. He comes to Boston, it's a good team. And he's been a more than competent backup, definitely a 1B goalie. So again, I don't think it's going to happen. And G reminded me that they had drafted Michigan's freshman goalie, Jack Ivan Kovic, 58 back in a June says he's one of the most underrated goalie prospects 16 and four this year with a 1,909, 2,7. I don't think he's quite NHL ready yet. But I mean, it might be good for Nashville building toward the future to get some draft picks from, let's say you biz. Well, they've won five of the last seven, but I agree with you. I feel like it's a team that just needs to tear it to the ground. And they just got a hope they can get off of some of these contracts like Stammer and March or so. I don't think Rylee Riley finishes the year there. So yeah, I think it's going to, I think it's all going to happen just at what, at what price, the money in, money out with what Saros makes. So it's going to be very difficult for Edmonton to make that work. I can't believe that they signed him to that deal and then moved Ascarov with like where they're at. And obviously they thought that getting Marsha So and Stam Coase and Brayden Faye. How's Ascarov been? He got hurt. He actually got hurt last night. That's why there was an e-bug and Philly. The 39 year old geologist. Yeah, he's a geologist that played at Colgate 20 years ago. But I think he's been pretty solid. Let me look up his numbers. No, he's been great. He started a little shaky. Because when I look at the schedule every night, the Brogwins are the first team, and then the Shaxx of the second team. I look for Love Watch and Celebrini. He's been really, really good the last couple of weeks. He had a tough game the other night, but for a young goalie, I think he's really round. He's over 900 saved percentage, 903, 3.09 goals against. But I think his numbers were real bad at the beginning. So maybe it's kind of leveled off. I don't know. His last like eight or nine games, maybe they've been better. And one, one of the team, I said, I've been to everybody, Edmonton goalie. That's been the talk for years now. But like, I looked at Detroit, you know, like, I know they just brought in Gibson last year. He's 32. He's got a 6.4 million through next year. Talbot's 38 years old, 2.5 million unrestricted after this year. I don't know if they want to quit on Gibson this quick, but you know, they're in the playoff hunt right now. They could solidify that position for the future. It's been a bit of an Achilles heel for them the last few years. So I don't know. It's just another thing I thought might be in the mix for them too. So I don't know. No, no. I think they got their two guys and they're, they're sitting third in the Atlantic. It's like, I don't know if they're going to change that up right now. Yeah, exactly. Like I said, I don't like, I don't like the stock room or whatever, but just thought a little hot take, I guess I had the athletic survey, 120 players, they did this stuff every year. Because they did the most punchable player. Who'd you? I know you talked about the show last night. Were you surprised who won it? No, Nick Cousins got it. I think we've talked about him before and like, fuck man, he, his job is to go out there and stir it up and he does a hell of a job doing it. Like he said things to guys on the ice that have forced them to go down the tunnel and try to get him in the opposing locker room. So this is, you know, he's, he's a special breed. It's a hard job to do. You gain a lot of enemies doing it and he's still in the NHL and honestly, like the game needs entertainment like that. So yeah, kudos to him for winning that award. Now I did see that Conor Badard got one vote, right? Yeah. Yeah. It was a little bit of a surprise. So Nick Cousins ran away with it big time. Who was McTavish who voted for him? I saw, I saw it. Oh, it's all the results. All right. Mashaan was second who I thought would have been the runaway winner. Mashaan 19.6. No, but he's too likable now. You know what? I think it just shows you how much people hate Boston sports that like everybody hated Mashaan Fiaz. All he had to do was go to a team not in Boston and everybody loved the guy. I don't know though. He won it in Florida. He was their best player at least in the finals and he's really cut down on all the old shit. Like it wasn't just being on the city. He's fucking you see what he did the other day. Yeah. He crashed the time out. Yeah. But I'm talking like the low hit on Salo or the licking of the face like that stuff's kind of gone away. Like going over to the bench trying to watch your play to score a goal with the goal he pulled. Yeah. Did he attack Dallin earlier this year? Was that him? Yeah. He ripped his helmet. Ripped his helmet parts. Yeah. I guess he hasn't changed that much. He's still got it. He's still got it in him. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I used to list off 10 things he's done in the last 12 months. It's a badge of honor for Boston fans. I mean, we love to be hated. You know, it's like, you know, you hate us because you ain't us. So yeah, Maddy Kachuk. He was there with 10%. What was funny was Eric Seneck. Most of the votes he got were from his own team. If he wasn't on my team, probably Eka. I thought that was pretty funny. Then they asked about social media. They asked, do you have a burner? 95% of the guys said no. What surprised me? Have any of you guys ever had a burner? I know his never did one. But no, but I think for those guys, what a burner means is not like someone that's out there commenting on stuff. It's somebody that has an account that's not public. So they can read, tweet, Twitter. Yeah. Yeah. Just to lurk. Yeah. It's not like a burner replying, torturing people like a troll. Their buddies might even know it's them. I'm curious though, there might be like NHL guys who have burners with their buddies and they're like coming at us. I'm sure it's happened before, right? Definitely a wit. Well, Yance doesn't have a Twitter. Why at me? Yance, would you get Twitter? Call like you see. No. You're not going to get it? No. Is it just because it's just like too much? You clogged your brain? I don't know. I feel like I'm past that. Like it'd be like wearing fucking Janko jeans for me right now. Yeah. Love your Jankos. Those are coming back. I know that's what I mean, but I can't jump on the bandwagon once everybody's on it. I got no interest in it, to be honest. I can relate to that as far as like, oh, your friends know who it is because when you know, Basta came out when they first got the blog. I mean, shit, it was very 2005, I think. I was one of all these people comment on the Internet. They'll loses, blah, blah, blah. But at the time, Basta was very Boston centric. And you know, it was very like a lot of brolin stuff there. So I actually, that was the first time I got an internet login thing. And I use Rare Admiral because I think 12, 15 guys from college knew that nickname. So I was like a joke proxy. So when my buddies read the site, they knew it was me, but like nobody else did. And then, well, of course, I ended up getting the blogging gig on the NIST. So the secret was out after that. But yeah, it was it was similar like that. You know, your boys get a chocolate, but not everybody knows who you are. So next up, the Iron Man streak. And we got a guy who knows a shitload about that. Phil The Thrill still number one at 1064 after he passed you in Delhi. 40 year old Brent Burns, he's at 954, the current leader. He's 111 games to pass Castle after him. Way down Nick Suzuki 483. So Burns is like, I mean, shit, almost 500 games above. Now Keith, I want to ask you, like, what's the biggest factor in playing that many in a row? Is it luck? Is it just plain luck? Yeah, I mean, a little bit of everything, especially like a guy like Brent Burns, the fact that he's done that is insane to me. Just the way that he plays, you know, he's a bigger physical guy, blocking more shots, you know, playing PK, at least the majority of his career. I don't know if he's still doing it, but yeah, like the fact that he's doing it is insane to me. The fact that Andrew Cogliano got to where he did, where he should have the record, but like the way that those guys played that, that kind of amazes me. Like me and Phil were a little more similar in the way that we played, not really, you know, didn't play like Brent Burns and Cogliano. So I honestly have no clue how he's doing it. You obviously, you know that he's huge into his whatever is in that bag that he's got that he carries around, like, you know, he's warming up and, you know, getting his right supplements and all that stuff. So yeah, just complete credit to him. And I don't see anything that's stopping him. Another thing they asked, what's the next unbreakable record to fall? They brought up career goals. A lot of guys mentioned Austin Matthews, 413 goals in 653 games. And I thought this quote was interesting. I don't think it's going to be Matthews like everybody else does. I think it's going to be part of the next, this next wave of players that might be a name we don't know yet, which, you know, I thought it was, you know, like I said, interesting because there's the skill level we talk about all the time, these kids, but that and celebrating and cost and it just keeps getting better and better. So do you think it would ever get broken with? I'd, we were saying the other night, I don't think the goal record is going to get broken. No, the point record will never be touched. I guess that doesn't even count anymore. But I was saying with these guys in the hotel room in Jersey that the coolest thing for me watching hockey now, and it's always been this way is like, there's some five year old out there right now that in like 15 years, we're going to be like, oh my God, like this guy's the best we've ever seen. And yes, that gets used like a lot. When I say it about McDavid, people bring up Crosby's, you know, cups and all that. And I'm not saying he's better than Crosby, but like McDavid has done things and McKinnon now is doing things we've kind of never seen, but there's going to be somebody. And then after that, there's going to be somebody else. And every sport just as, as time goes on, like there's players who are better and better and better. And that's the most wild thing is like, yeah, there's some kid maybe he's not even born yet, who's going to get to the NHL at 18 years old. And it's going to be just jaw dropping, shocking stuff that we I think there's no way the gold one gets broken. I think these are are too good now. And buddy, if you'd have to play even like the top end goal guys, like what's who's like the top projected goal score for this year, it's probably like in the high 50s. Oh, Nate dog. Right. But is it like, is it what is in the high 50s? He's on a pace. So he's got gotta be like 60, I think. Okay. So that's like, we've seen before where guys have gotten even more than that. So it's not even like that keeps going up, like the amount of goals that our guys are getting in one season, you have to play 20 years by a time. Ovi's done. And now the way that Ovi's going this year, like if you watch their games, like he's slow, like he does not move around much. He's just waiting for his one tease and get her four guys to do all the work. Like as you go to the hard areas, is he still a clutch goal score? Is he still fucking Alexander or Vetskin? Absolutely. I think he could maybe play one more year now after this. So he'll probably get to 1000. You'd have to play 20 years and get 50 every year. I don't think someone's going to be able to stay no chance. Can't stay healthy. I know. I don't think he's going to get to 1000 either, even playing next year. Okay. Oh, you don't. Okay. Well, yeah. What is he like 90 away? So say, so he has to get, what is the way like nine, I think 9 11 or 9 12. I think he's not going to say, whatever 85 away. He's got to get, he's got to get 30 more this year. And then he needs 55 next year. So he maybe play two. I would, I wouldn't even put it past them. And if he keeps scoring 35 goals and he wants to play hockey, Washington's going to sign them. They're going to pay him. So yeah, I don't know. But either way, I mean, let's, let's say 19, you have to be 19 years in a row and score 50 every single season. No, I don't know. I don't think that's happening. Yeah. I will say two records that I don't think ever, ever going to be broken. The penalty, penalty minutes for Korea, Tiger Williams, 3971 penalty minutes and 962 games. There's no way anyone's going to catch that the way the league is down and Dale Hunter, he was second 35, 3565. He had 1347 penalties and 1407 games. This hilarious numbers. And then for the season, the hammer Dave Schultz had 472 penalty minutes and 76 games for the Broad Street Bullies back in 7475. 109 total penalties. He's also number four on the list too. So I don't, those are two records I can't imagine will ever get close to the goal tending one. Who's the goalie in Toronto that played like 80 games one year back in the day? Johnny Bauer? Johnny Bauer. Yeah. Doesn't he have the record for like most games played consecutively? It's either him or Jacques Plant. One of those guys like one of those old, old school guys has like the most consecutive games played by. It's insane. Yeah. Yeah. Especially that position. So also, hey, I want to give a big shout out to Craig Smith. He announces retirement after 1070 regular season and playoff games over 14 seasons with six teams. National's fourth round pick back at 09. He spent some time here in Boston for a smidge. The fans loved him here. I appreciate his style of play. I don't, it just, it didn't stay here too long, but I think we got to see what kind of play he was. You know, 520 little seasons or plus 88 by all counts. A great guy, a great teammate. So enjoy retirement brother. You any, any of you guys know him at all? Keith, I mean, I know you played no, at the same time. I've ran into him a few times. Super nice guy. But what I, when I think of him, I think of that empty net he missed the Nashville. My morning roofed it over the stadium. Out of the, out of the bridge stone arena. It went out. But yeah, amazing career. He played hard. Worked really hard. Had a bomb for a shot. Very competitive. Probably mostly known for his time in Nashville, I'd say, right? But he was good for the Bruins. Yeah. Great career getting over a thousand games. Amazing career. Good for him and best of luck in the next chapter. Absolutely. We should also shout out, uh, we should also shout out Looch. Looch, it didn't work out in St. Louis, which sucks, but he's going over to business league, um, in England. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. 502 games for Glen Hall playing consecutive as a goalie. That's been that's never getting touched. I was even going to say Marty is Marty Broder the wins leader, 691. I believe he did pass Patty. Yeah, but he played in a lot of years with ties, man. So that's not one I would definitely say that's fair. You'd have to go. You'd have to win 35 games every year for 20 years. Fuck. I know. But if you get a couple of years with 40, yeah, I know that that's, that's going to be tough. But with him having ties in his career, at least it kind of brings a possibility. Yeah. One of the, I mean, the best money goal tenders ever. No shit, Ari, but yeah, I mean, got one game that you got to win him. Wow. Hash it though. I think those are the three no brainers, but we're going to bring a little old school segment back with business even pre-day to the OG chicklet segment. The first one we ever did. All right, Hamilton. Oh, yeah, baby. Yeah. It's too calm little to explain, explain the origin of the name, but take listen to questions. Hockey questions are welcome. But you know, the other stuff is pretty fun. So I'm going to kick it off with this one. I want to hear what you guys have to say. This is from Zach A. His 21. They make a spit and chicklet's movie. Who do you guys realistically want to portray you? All right, Hamilton. And I had, all right, Hamilton. I hate to say this, but I had Michael Rabaport playing you. I know he sucks. But you guys, thanks. But everyone says I look like him. It's not great. It's not about this. It's Galabrini. A biz, Johnny Bernthal. Sure. Yeah, that's a good one. I mean, it's definitely a compliment, I'd say. Why Witt? Or what yet? No, no. I was waiting to see if Witt says for me. Go ahead. For myself, Ed Harris. It's not like he's Paul Newman. I'm like, pump my own tires here, but bald, good actor, whatever. Fiji, Paul Dano. Wow. Paul Dano would be good for G. Yeah, that's fair. All right, he gives himself a stallion. He gives me and Grinelli two fucking ugly guys. Oh, not well. I mean, Dano is great, great actor. I was gonna say Quinn Hughes, but that was the obvious one. And then for the game notes, boys, Merles will be played by Chris Pine. I mean, Merles is the best looking guy in the whole crew. Obviously, he's going to have a good actor. And Jason Siegel as Colby Armstrong. I think that would be a good fit. Is Siegel the one in... Forget Sara Marshall. Shows his wrench. Yeah. Okay. Who'd you say for Janss? I was gonna say for you, Keith. I know. Thanks for having me in there, all right. Did you not write Janss in? No, he didn't. Who would you have said Janss? You know what? The guy who... You ever see the old Nickelodeon show, you can't do that on television? It's old school Canadian show. No. The guy who worked at Boffsburg is that's who would play Janss. What about Warren? What about Warren from something about Mary? You just said this. I was going to say the same name, Paul Rudd. I was going to say the same guy because when he's got a beard, I could see it. What did you just say? Warren from something about Mary. Oh, dude. I thought you were going to say Baba Bowie. Oh, no, that was Oki who used to call me that. Yeah. Thanks for having me in there. I appreciate it. Custodian stink. That was brutal. All right. Let's see here. Another question here. What are your favorite sporting events outside of hockey and can you share some personal memorable moments? Me, the World Series is always a classic, but watching a major upset is awesome stuff. That's from Pucks in Deep. And boys, I've said it before, I'm lucky as fuck to see what I've seen over the years. But the Patriots' Biz are the only Boston team I have not seen win a championship in person because Super Bowl is tough to predict. You don't know who's going to be in it. It's always a designated site. But I did see them win the Fog Bowl. What? You remember that versus Pittsburgh? 97, the big blonde with Terry Glenn. And I was at the Snowball Tuck Roll game versus Oakland at 0-2. A couple of, you know, in the division winner games back when they were on the run back of the day. I saw the Seltsman original God in 86, then a TD God in 0-8. The B's when in Vancouver at 11, the Sox in 0-4 as well as Game 7 in the Bronx. I saw the last ever playoff game at the God in the 95. It was the only time I ever saw a wave in the Boston God. Because fans were so desperate to keep the season going, keep the winning going. They literally did a wave. And it was so like, you know, the opposite of what Boston fans usually do. Clemens' first 20 strikeout game. I was there. Jim Rice, when he saved the little kid who got hit by a foul ball. And one of the most underrated Super Bowls. Super Bowl, I suck at Roman numerals. I don't know, 33, 43, whatever. It was Pittsburgh in Arizona down in Tampa. Remember that one? San Antonio Holmes, the toe tapper with like two minutes left. Larry Ferri-Gerald. Cost me a bundle, man. I had him for MVP. But yeah, I closed down in Tampa. I just said, fuck it. I'm going to buy a ticket. I went down game by myself. And I don't want to, like I said, I think it's one of the most underrated Super Bowls ever. I thought you were going to say Shorzy vs. the Bruins alumni. The way you talked about that game to start off the show was like fucking 72. It was Russia USA in Lake Placid. Was the question you had to be there? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I've been at all of those. Did he say give your top 20 favorites or your number one? I started writing them down. I just was like, holy fuck. I didn't realize it was this many. And like I've seen one, two, three, four, five, seven Stanley Cup clutches when they bring the cup out on the ice. You've never mentioned that before. I can't think of anything like super memorable that I've been at that World Cup France, Argentina final when Mbappe had the hat trick and Messi got the win. I'll never forget watching that. That was amazing. But I wasn't there. What about you, Biz? I was at Game 7 of the World Series this year. That was like an incredible game. I'm not even a big baseball guy that whole run and like what it like, you know, Canada vs. USA, like big, you know, Dodgers, big money franchise. So that was just super cool. And, and I hope they can go on another run next year. I don't think I've been there for like anything else significant for a sporting event. You know, I actually did. I think there was a rugby World Cup game overseas. It was Samoa, Samoa vs. England, I believe, and it was in Wales. The game was taking place there. And that was my first time watching rugby live. I'm a big rugby guy. Like I could, if a game's on, which they ignore me not on my TV anyway, like I'll sit there and just watch it. Those guys are beasts. So if I could go, if I could go to like a rugby 7s world championship, like with a bunch of the boys, I would go do that. Ruggers, animals too. I have a college stuff. Rugby 7s is like, there's a little bit more space out there and there's more scoring. So a little bit more entertaining. So I guess I don't know. I'd have to talk to rugby enthusiasts to like say, Hey, which one should we go to? What? PFT. PFT. I think him and Wonton went to like a rugby 7s tournament and they took like acid and shrooms and it was a pretty gnarly experience in video. What about you, Keith? What's that? The biggest thing you caught person? Probably the Super Bowl when the Patriots beat the Falcons when they were down. No, you were at 28 to 3? Yeah, 28 to 3. Yeah. And I was with Sean Thornton and he wanted to leave at halftime and I'm like, not happening dude. Whoa. Oh, yeah. Didn't that one guy, the movie star leave at halftime? Yeah, Mar-A-Lorberg. Mocky-Bock. And they wouldn't let him back in either. Good. Yeah, you leave the arena. You're done, though. Done, though. All right, boys. That was fun stuff. A couple more things here. Classic recommendation for this week. A show that only had one season back in 1999 called Freaks and Geeks. Judd Apatow was the creator behind it and it had all these future stars that were unknown back then. James Franco, Jason Seigel, we just talked about Seth Rogen, Linda Cattolini and Grennelli. Come on in. He told me when we talked about the outline yesterday that he actually had a class at college that broke down this whole season, right, G? Yeah, I mean, that just goes to describe what Plymouth State education is. It was called Watching Television 101. We'd go in, watch Freaks and Geeks, vote one episode every class and then we would just break down the episode. It's, like I said, it just describes what Plymouth State is. But unbelievable show. So many actors that launched their career. Yeah, I know you guys are jocks. You might not relate to the Freaks and Geeks aspect of it, but it's a great show. Like I said, only one season didn't get renewed. But if you're looking for something to watch, get on that around the NLP. We got NHL picks tonight. Take Tampa Bay minus 115. They're playing at Jersey. I think they got their swagger back. They beat up Montreal last night. Pretty big after a four-game losing streak. As per usual, put half of your wager on the puck line, plus 215. And NFL picks, I like Tampa Bay minus four and a half over Atlanta tonight as well. They got embarrassed last week. Atlanta is trash. And this week in Detroit, take the five and a half with the Rams, buy it up to six if you can. So that's it, boys. Fun week. And that's it up. All right, all right. Great job. Stay hot. Stay hot. And couple clicks for the janitors. To the Custies. Everyone will see you Monday live. Can't wait for it. Love you all. Have a great weekend. Watch the sandbagger. Arita Derche. No, don't let it. It's gonna happen. It's gonna happen again.