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Now it comes out in September, but get your copy assured. We'll talk more about The Blade of Perseus in a bit. Victor, we've got collectic issues today, but the first one I think I'd like to poke you on is this punk that was arrested in New Jersey for threatening ice agents. And man, oh man, what would it be like to be a nice agent officer in America today? So we'll get your thoughts on that. And Nick Shirley, Stop Nick Shirley Act that is working its way through the California legislature, the NFL wokery of the New York Giants, or some of the players on the Giants, that and plenty more. And we'll get to all of these things when we come back from these initial important messages. As an advocate of truth, you know that women shouldn't have to share locker rooms with men. Women shouldn't have to compete against male athletes, and they shouldn't be punished for speaking the truth. But across America, that's exactly what's happening. 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It's an early morning out there where you are, Victor, in God's country, the Central Valley of California. Hope things are going well with you. So here's a headline or a story that the news has come out today or late last night Friday that the New Jersey Delaney Hall, that's the name of that ICE detention center, which has been the site of so many protests, that this Antifa punk who had yelled at and he was caught on video saying to an ICE officer, I'll kill your whole effing family, your children, your wife, all dead, I have your face. This is why ICE agents wear masks because when they don't, this guy is Nicholas Matthew Skelfo. He's 27, he's from Brooklyn, and he's been arrested by the FBI for threatening to kill a federal agent. Skelfo was a participant in 2020 Black Lives Matter protests and more recently in no Kings protests. He is a nod ball, I think, Victor, but a violent one. Your thoughts on what ICE officers endure? Well, that's what Voltaire said of Admiral Bing. The British have a strange habit every once in a while. They hang an admiral, pour in courage, lay a trough so that they can encourage the others. They need to make an example of people who do that. It's very ironic because I'm sitting here in California where Gavin Newsom will sign into law a new statute that makes it, and we'll discuss that, illegal for people like Shirley to photograph, you know, just because that's supposedly intimidating to immigrants or something. Leering center employees. Leering. And here for months now, these ICE people, these ICE demonstrators have gotten their face. They've threatened them. Then no repercussions, none. And so basically we're in a situation in America where a federal officer is trying to enforce lax enforcement of the past and rectify that and return people to their home country who came here illegally and the majority of whom 60 to 70% and whom they're after are still criminals. We have an active resistance that's threatening them all the time, sometimes with violence. And the reaction of Blue State America is we're going to make it illegal to do something what they used to triumph 60 minutes. Remember the ambush interview where all of a sudden Dan Rather would pop out of a door front when he'd see a corporate CEO walk by and then they'd stick a camera in his face and the microphone and said, did you or did you not know about that carcinogen in your assembly? That's what they did all the time. And the left thought this was the greatest thing in the world. But the left is adolescent. So anything that they feel adds to their power and influence, any means necessary, it's okay. And then when it's used against them, they get paranoid. So they're all mad at E. Jean Carroll now because she, everybody knew she lied on her oath when she said that Reed Hoffman didn't fund her lawsuit. And that was a complete lie. He funded almost all of it. And now they decided to do what? Do something nobody does enforce the perjury law. And there's, oh, this is law fair. This has been addictive. Her whole case was a bill of attainer that allowed her to have a suspension of this sexual harassment statute for one year written specifically for her so she could get Donald Trump. So I'm really, you know, it's really demoralizing to see what these young punks do. And then I said that to Sam the other day that 45% of them, Jack, are Mexican American middle class people. And there, nobody in the Mexican American community is doxing them or exposing them. The ICE officers. The ICE officers, they are celebrated because when you have 12 million illegal aliens from south of the border come across, they do not go to Martha's Vineyard. They do not go to Atherton. They do not go to, I don't know, Palm Beach. We know they don't go to Martha's Vineyard. We know they don't go to Nantucket. They go to Hispanic communities and the result like mine. And the result is when you go to the emergency room, you can't get served. Or when you go for your mom's dialysis, she can't get served. Or you go to the store and somebody is not speaking Spanish. They're speaking an indigenous dialect and no one knows what to do. Or you're having truck drivers that can't read English and they're killing people. Given fake licenses, it's basically government, but there's pseudo license. There was no requirement that you had to meet to get them. So that's the problem. This is a class thing. These are wealthy, upscale, young punks, middle age, retirees, mostly from white, Asian elite of this country. And they go out as sort of a sporting event and then they disparage, slur, smear, try to attack largely middle class Mexican American officers. No one talks about that, but that's the real subject of the entire thing. Interesting on the elitist side. And this is another anecdote of another individual. But I'm looking right now, Victor, at a from X, a post from someone I mean there for AM who writes, one of the left extremists who was arrested for kicking and biting ICE agents in New Jersey was previously charged with sexual abuse of children related to the dissemination and possession of child pornography. So this character's name is Brendan Geier and he graduated from Madison High School in New Jersey. I want to tell you something, Victor. If you wanted to buy a house in Madison, New Jersey, you'd better have a couple of million dollars. You know, I bet. This kid is, he's like 25, 26, 27, usually elite upbringing and a very violent and ideological. That's what no one talks about in this country. There is something deeply troubling and disturbing about this postmodern culture that's grown up in the bi-coastal elite communities in which pampered white kids go to these schools, Stanford, Harvard, Princeton, Yale, all of them. And then they get indoctrinated for four years and they don't know anything. They don't learn classical languages. They don't know modern languages. They don't know philosophy. They don't know science or math. They take therapeutic sociology, psychology, and then they become fodder for all these causes. And they're so sanctimonious and self-righteous because they're wealthy and they're entitled. And they think that nobody in their entire life is dared to bother them and they have security patrols in their neighborhood and they're like little sheltered hot house plants. And we're supposed to take them seriously. And that is really the basis of the Democratic Party. And now along, it is a DEI, Socialist, Islamist, Elitist, New Coalition. And so these people, I think we need to talk a lot and more in those terms that these are class snobs. And they keep talking about oppression and the, and Mondom is a good example. He talks about wider neighborhoods and all these oppressors. He came from the 1% of Uganda. 1% in Uganda are of Indian ethnic background. According to his own definition and the people around him, he is a settler, colonialist. I don't believe that's true, but they would say it was true. So he grew up in affluence and then he came over here and his parents and got greater affluence. And he's never really held a serious job outside of government or being on a board or assemblymen for a term. And he's got all of these pie in the sky social, and he's got these racialist ideas. He does not like Jew. That's very clear. He does not like white people or he wouldn't say, I'm going to go after the nicer, whiter neighborhoods. When you talk like that, that's a state revelation of your soul. And so that's a very disturbing demographic. These very, very affluent left-wing people that are so self-righteous. And you know what it's weird about? They transfer their wealth and their privilege into their ideology. So they think you have to listen to them. Blacks don't know what's good for them unless they listen to Barack Obama, who can instruct them about why they can't vote for anybody but Camilo Harris and why these people are all misled. And that arrogance comes from the idea that they've always had affluence and they've always been privileged and they always expect people to listen to them. And I'm glad you mentioned Mondami with his ideological arrogance, reminds me of that scene in Dr. Chavago when Chavago comes back from the war and he sees his the house that his family has lived in is now being populated by many people. And that's what Mondami has just come out in the last few days. I didn't have this in the notes of things we might talk about, Victor, but yeah, he's going to take apartment buildings and turn them over. Do you see him take my property and your property and that property and turn them over to other people? And that's because he's so astute. He knows exactly of all the thousands of landlords. He can walk into a building and his eyes can detect that it's not kept up or the profit margin is too great. And so he can turn it over to someone who is what, more left-wing and empathetic. I don't think so. Well, it's interesting too. I don't think he can get away with it, but we'll see, because that's going to be a landmark case if a mayor has a... I guess he's going to use imminent domain and say that this is a city takeover, like a bridge or something. I just don't think he can do it. But remember, when these people say that they're socialist, when they get in power, they're communist and they always are. They always move to the left and the left and the left and then the next thing after communism is anarchy. So we've had these... Yeah, Victor, I think we've been head faked on this in a bit by socialist governments in Europe in the 1950s and 60s, Norway, Sweden, others that were not communist. Maybe they would have arced that way if they were in power long enough. But I think that distorts what the truth about socialism and the current socialists and they really are communists. They used the label of socialist... I think they were in the 60s and when you look at the West German socialist governments, they had German, East German spies all through their government. They had Russian spies. The Italian Communist Party was deeply infiltrated in the socialist. You read Farewell to Catalona by George Orwell about the crazy anarchists and all these people were completely taken over by people masquerading as socialists but getting their orders from Joseph Stalin and the communists were executing anarchists by their droves. So the thing about socialism is when you have a person who is elected as a democratic socialist and he tries to implement these socialist utopian dreams, people push back. So the next step is how do I stop them from pushing back? Well, the communist have an answer for that. Any means necessary because our economic and social goals are so moral, they justify killing anything and that's the narcotic that they drift to. Otherwise, nobody would want them. And you'll see that after a year or two of this guy, he is going to scare a lot of people and there's going to be two reactions. They're either going to leave or they're going to start actively resisting and he is going to get more and more radical if that's possible. And he is led, he is sort of the poster boy for all these crazy people that are running in these democratic primaries. He is. We can't fight somebody with nobody, so I agree. The Irish in the neighborhood of Woodlawn and the Bronx are essentially koolocks in his eyes but they have to have somebody to rally around to fight back and I don't think it's courtesy or I don't know who's the current person, who's the Rudy Giuliani of 2029. The demography has changed. When Giuliani was at his high point at the end of the 20th century in and around 911, there wasn't 53 million foreign born in the United States. There hadn't been 12 million people across the border in four years. There hadn't been 16% of the population. We haven't acclimatized, culture rated, integrated those people and they come over here and they have this idea, legal or illegal, so many of them. These are not the immigration paradigms that we had until recently of legal immigration. So many of them come over here and their first decision is to get on either to work for the government or get on federal support and state or local support and then to trash the system by which they benefit from because it's not sufficient. They're encouraged by the Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, all of that, those people. And it's eye-opening. You saw that France the other days, there's a major politician and he's advocating three-year moratorium on legal immigration because he said France can't handle and turn into French people, these immigrants, legal or otherwise. And I think Britain, the Reform Party, it's just as far as labor is concerned, it's a time bomb ticking. They can't stop it. It's going to take over at some point and I think they're going to be wildly greeted when they tell people we're not going to do this what we've done anymore. I'm a big proponent of legal immigration if it's measured and people come over here because they know that they want a greater security, economic stability, freedom, etc. But when they come over here and they start trashing the country and they start demanding changes and then they start lecturing you what's wrong with it, like Ilian Omar. First thing, she said this is a trashy country and this is dictator and it's got a better... America's not as bad as... America's worse than the dictators and Somalis. That was a very funny thing to say because her father worked for one, Said Berry. On the legal immigration, it could be painfully slow and small numbers process would have to be because if you have to judge a person, an actual person, if they're going to assimilate or not. You have to and you have to ask them a basic question. What's the Gettysburg address? Even though... And we have to teach that again. We're not even teaching it so our citizens don't know. But I can tell you 20 years ago when local churches adopted certain families that came over here, my cousin married a girl from Estonia and those people that came from Estonia that were fleeing communism, there were some at the hospital from Hungary. They were the most patriotic people in the world and they were right. They wanted to assimilate. They knew more about America than the native born and I can tell you my father ran a vocational training campus. He created it in the state center junior college district to teach people on welfare, how to be mechanics, electricians, etc. And he had a guy that he hired, I won't give his last name, I think he's passed away, Cruz. And every single morning, he was an immigrant from Mexico. He got up at four in the morning and drove out there and raised the American flag and then he stayed late as soon as sunset, no matter what the time of season, he put white gloves on and he took it down and he folded it and he put it in a little drawer every single day. And that seems crazy today. I'm glad you raised your mention, your father, because he'll be an entree to the next kind of related topic. But first, for listeners and our viewers, did you know that over 176 million Americans are drinking tap water with PFA's in it? Water PFA's, they're manmade chemicals used in food packaging, nonstick cookware, firefighting foam and so on. 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Okay, Victor, visiting your house the last time I was there, and noticed on the wall such a cool thing that you had a letter from the New York Giants, New York Football Giants, your father, who was a very good college football player, I think was offering him for a tryout for the Giants and it didn't come to pass. But the Giants, the football Giants are in the news. Abdul Carter, who was kind of a contankerous defensive player, he was attacking Jackson Dart, who was the Giants' quarterback, because Dart was asked and introduced Donald Trump when he appeared in Suffer, New York, that's a suburb of New York City, at a rally recently. And Carter on X tweeted, I don't know what the proper term is, thought this blank was AI, what we do in man, so he's attacking Jackson Dart. It's okay if every player on the NFL takes a knee, disrespects the flag, etc. But Jackson Dart invited by the president to introduce, all of a sudden that is a problem. And we have some interesting commentary on that. And I'll just read one, except I've displaced it here. Jason Whitlock, who I think he's a terrific culture critic, he says, here's what they've normalized and are trying to reinforce with the Jackson Dart situation. Black people can be offended by what white people believe, but white people can't be offended by what black people believe. It's legal to love and worship Barack Obama, it's illegal to love and worship Donald Trump, unsustainable. Your thoughts on any of this, Victor? Well, I mean, it was even worse than that because during Colin Kaepernick's pre and COVID and post COVID days that spread in the NBA and the NFL, you could see that the stands for about a year lost about before. He drove down the revenues to NFL teams, people were sick of it, they didn't watch it. And the same thing with the NBA. So they did a lot of damage. So basically, if you become highly political and you insult the flag of the country that you are living in with all of these freedoms and securities, and you harm your employer's revenue stream, which I guess doesn't affect their salary, it's fine. But if you just go to introduce somebody that happens to be what, the President of the United States, it's a political act of treason. That shows you how deeply embedded this leftist culture has taken over professional sports. And I think you would know better than I do that sports writers today are among the most leftist of all journalists, because they're doing the DEI social construct every time they write. They veer off the actual data of RBI's or catches or passing, and they start giving you breakdowns of ethnic, racial, and it's been highly politicized. And it's like an infection. Spencer Pratt has a great commercial, and if you've seen it, it's online, where a very refined looking white woman, almost the typical of Beverly Hills or Brentwood, comes into the emergency room and her daughter is on a gurney. The daughter is beautiful blonde. She says, my daughter, she's very ill. She's got a cough. I don't know what's happened. And the doctor looks at her and she's got Pratt disease. She's got Pratt disease. And the daughter says, I don't. I just don't know why Karen Bass was in Uganda when the city burned down. I said, no, see, it's getting worse. I've got to prescribe four hours of NPR, three hours of New York Times. And then the woman says, oh my gosh, we thought we vaccinated. We only listened to MS. And once in a while, when we want to get frisky, we turn on CNN. And no, I'm sorry. She's got to have NPR, New York Times, Washington. And then they wheel her into the isolation ward, but they infect it. And they're all there. And then it ends with the doctor. They go back to the doctor's diagnostic room and he starts coughing as if he's picked it up from her and he's smiling. But it is a virus. You know what I mean? It is. And it's part of it is they were, that what the genus of the left was, they were able to take a very, very radical ideas, transgenderism, that it's an epidemic and that people 30%, 20% of the population, and it's, you know, it's normal for biological men to dominate women's sport events in cases or dress or on open borders. It's normal. And 12 million illegal aliens is normal. And letting people out with no cash bail is normal. And then they made it cool in the universities and pop culture so that when you talk to people, they don't know what, why they're for, they just know that it's cool to be for all these things. At least it's cool enough that you don't tell people you're not in public. And it's not only the backing of crazy policies, but just on top of that, the coolness of, I don't know, abnormal public behavior now. I don't know what algorithms I'm in, Victor, but I see this constant stream of these high school and I think some of them even college graduations. I saw that. It's funny you said that I, when we were in high school, no, but when they called our names, nobody was allowed to scream or use, you know, gas power, yeah, gas powered bullhorns or any of that. I saw it with my children's who grad, who at the millennium were graduating that in the stands when the family would get up and hoot and yell and then the person would do something like this. Yeah. But that was innocent compared to what they're doing now. It's so selfish to disrupt that. And I think they should just say, you know what, everybody has to have a 30 minute graduation course before you can participate in a ceremony and you're going to, here's how you shake the hand, here's how you smile to the person, here's how quickly you get off the stage, here's how you tell your family not to scream and yell when you come up there. And we don't want to see you twerk or down any of that. And if you don't want to do it, you can't graduate. You can get your diploma, but you just won't be able to walk through. And it's a course into the whole culture. It's back to the broken windows theory that once you let these little misdemeanors proliferate, then you get homelessness. And once you let homelessness proliferate, then people don't take care of the subway or the bus or they don't, you know, they don't do anything. People spit because if you're walking down a sidewalk, a person spits on the sidewalk because he says, well, they're defecating, spitting is not that bad. And it just lowers everything. That's why it's really important that things that Trump is most criticized for like trying to restore the fountain and Washington Union station, you know, that thing that when I went to Washington, it was putrid, it was filthy. And then the reflecting pool on the mall, that's very important symbolically, iconically to tell people these are public monuments and they're iconic and we're going to keep them in great shape because it represents our collective values. A lot of this happened in the 60s, you know, when people destroyed norms. I can remember, I didn't know what to call my professor the first week at UC Santa Cruz. A guy who was a very good professor, but he had on very long hair, long beard, flannel shirt and moccasins with no socks. And he was sitting on the floor, the seminar, and I walked in, I said, doctor, I didn't know what to do. My mom said, well, I don't think you should, I don't know what you should call them, but we used to call them doctorate. Sam, I said, and he said, I don't operate on anybody. Call me Bill, you know, that kind of stuff. And I said, that was nice. And everybody sat around the thing. And then I just noticed that people passed wind and didn't try to hold it, or people burped loudly, or there were people with something called Petuli oil, it was a 60s perfume that was almost toxic to smell, but women really thought it was great then. And it was just unpleasant. And you think all of these protocols that grew up over the centuries to make public meetings or opportunities or associations livable that were not animals, were all thrown away. And that 60s generation, you know, they're the establishment. And they either, and now they're kind of worried about they created because it's coming back to bite them. As you say, it's pervasive everywhere. And even, I've lamented about this before, and we'll take a break in a sec, but go to church, I go to church, even that's always should be happy, anyone goes to church, or they go to church, these men who are of a certain age, who was children when it was Latin mass. And yet there they are, and shorts and a dirty t-shirt and sandals, and there's just no sense of the quorum or dignity given what you're at. So does anything in our society require dignity? Does it require pomp and circumstance? It's not. I hope the pendulum swings back somehow. It's so funny when you see, I know people don't believe that, but my grandfather would, I mean, they wore ties on Sundays for dinner. Just my grandmother and my grandfather. And then when they went to Christmas or Thanksgiving, he always had a tie on and a coat. We'd all kind of make fun of him. What are you doing? Go to baseball games, they wore ties. Yeah, they wore, yeah, that's another thing where I'm watching. I love all of these things like best years of her lives or protocol, just to get glimpses of what the streets look like and what people, it's, it's, it kind of reminds me of the Greeks in the Dark Ages when we know that Mycenaean civilization was destroyed, but they went by the lion's gate at Mycenae, or they fell through a tholos tomb. They, who were these people? They were giants, that's what they were. They were demigods, and they created Greek mythology out of that debased Dark Age culture that could not explain these monumental architecture and writing they saw in your B. And then they, they took the Olympian gods from them and they said, wow, now they've, they came and they created these things on earth. And they, maybe that's what we're doing. I think we're going to get to that point very quickly. I don't think the average person can replicate what we see. Maybe AI can help us, but when I see the, when I drive to work and I see the California Aqueduct, I think, wow, who did that? They did it without computers or anything. It's the most amazing thing and all these dams, I go up to Huntington Lake and I see the Big Creek Electric Project and it's still functioning. It's still got the 1912 powerhouses. I thought, wow, who were these people? Because we have all these perches and I don't think we have the people who could replicate it. And even with that, you see baseball stadiums will be built and within 20 years, they're taken down. You know, another thing that I get really angry like, Mayor Johnson is always lecturing people and there was how many people shot over Memorial Day 26 in Chicago. And what I thought was very angry, he's always criticizing people, but why doesn't he ask himself, so you go out and you put a gun in your belt and you go out at nine o'clock on a Saturday night to kill somebody that you have a grudge against or gang grievance and then you do it and you reject society and you hate it. You hate the establishment. Many of these are African American youth. They did not grow up in a two-parent household, I understand that. And then they get shot. And what happens when they get shot? All of a sudden, they say, where is the 21st century? I need an ambulance here immediately. And then they go to the emergency room and they see some person they otherwise would call a nerd. I'm not talking about just African American who were predominantly the people shooting and getting shot, but anybody that engages in violence. They go to the emergency room and it's somebody who has spent seven to eight years of his life or her life in education and immediately they get plugged into the most sophisticated health system in the world. And then if they have life-saving surgery, they go through all of that. It's probably a million dollars per patient and they have no clue what they're doing. All they know is the people who are helping them are often the people they pray on if they saw them as bystanders in the street. And then when the bill comes, they're nowhere to be found and the city pays for it. I'm not saying that the city shouldn't pay for it if they don't have the means. I'm saying they have no gratitude. And they keep doing it and doing it and doing it. And then they demand demand demand demand. Johnson was blaming social media for all this. Yes. And then they say it has no impact. Mayor Johnson thinks it has no impact on the health. If you have thousands of people shot, I'm not saying killed, just shot and they're going in the room. That has an enormous financial impact. So at some point the society has to say, you know, this is not sustainable. I don't think it is. We're 31 trillion dollars in debt. California is completely falling apart. And when you look to, you look for sanity, Karen Bass says she's worried that meth people might have rotted their teeth out and they need dental care. And then Gavin Newsom is giving, he's denying it, but now another story came out that it's true. These iPads that these prisoners on death row get to look at porn on, they say, they, why did they do that? It's just, they can't deal with the existential felonies are going on. So they, they just concentrate on little iconic performance art gestures that make them feel good, but they can't deal with it because their ideas have been so bankrupt and caused so much problems. What would Karen Bass do if suddenly she got a bowl of lightning in her head and became normal and she wanted to fix LA. She'd, she would say, oh my gosh, what did I do? I spent all these billions. I haven't solved the homeless. Oh my gosh, there's no water in the reservoir. But then could she do anything about it? Because there's so many people that were appointed on the basis of criteria other than expertise. I don't think she could. It's like all these left wing professors, they're so typical. They demanded after George Floyd that you destroy the SAT, get it out because it did not reflect the demography they wanted. They wanted, you know, a largely black and Hispanic 30 or 40% class reflecting demographics. So they got that in many cases. And then they said, well, these kids don't know math. They don't know English. They don't know, and we're Stanford, we're Harvard, we're Yale, we're Princeton, we're the best places, but they weren't anymore overnight because they had to deal with the students that were not prepared. So they started having remedial courses and they hushed it up. But these remedial courses were things that they weren't even at the junior college level. They were high school. So you had these hallmark universities that were, had some courses that were high school level. And then the faculty were getting angry like, I've got a PhD in Renaissance literature from Harvard and Oxford. And when I, anytime I talked about Dante and my theories about the Inferno, when it was composed, I look at my class and they think I'm crazy. They don't appreciate my scholarship, my air reduced, all my publications. What happened to my seminar, my undergraduate seminar in the Inferno? They can't read it. Yes, because you were the one as a leftist that demanded to destroy all criteria to get in your university. And you think you're at Stanford, Princeton, Harvard, Yale, but you're not really. You're at places that have that name, but they're hollowed out. And your employer knows it. I'm just so, I did have an undergraduate course on Dante's Inferno victory path, but it was by a good professor once upon a time. We won't say what institution was that because I don't want you to start lamenting about Holy Cross and Anthony Fauci. Okay, we need to take a little break, but when we come back, we're going to get your take, your take Victor, on the Nick Shirley legislation, anti-nick Shirley legislation, working its way through California as a legislature. Do that week. Come back from these important messages. You're back with Victor Davis Hansen in his own words on the Daily Signal Network, one of two shows Victor does for the Daily Signal. The other is Victor Davis Hansen in a few words. 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It now goes on to the State Senate, the bill's author, Mia Bonta, who is, she's the wife of the Attorney General Rob Bonta, wrote the bill to protect employees of nonprofits who provide services to illegal immigrants. I'm reading from the Palo Alto Daily Post. The bill bans the photography of employees of protected organizations if the cameras make the employee feel threatened. Anyone who posts photos or the personal information of those employees on the internet could be fined a minimum of $4,000 per violation. Of course, this is all in response to Nick Shirley and his little camera going around Minnesota and California exposing a gargantuan amount of fraud. I saw, by the way, Dr. Oz doing the same thing over the weekend. He's in Ohio going to some of these facilities that have hundreds and hundreds of offices dealing with autism fraud or hospice fraud, which are just empty, empty offices, but somehow or other they are funneling billions of dollars through them. So anyway, Victor, we have this going on in California. Your thoughts? Yeah. I mean, two thoughts. One, they're angry that anybody would be accused of using the methodologies that they created and mastered. They were the people who created cancel culture. They were the people who dox people. They were the people who introduced the iPhone taking pictures of everybody at demonstrations. They were the ones that did all of that. They were the ones and all those people that got people's addresses. They were the ones that, you know, we had Amy Comey Barrett who was swatted. I've been swatted before our house has been. They were the ones that created all that and he didn't do that. So again, it goes back to that theme that they are so adolescent that anybody who they think might ever do what they did should be strung up. The other thing is the Constitution forbids bills of attainer and that's kind of a gray area, but a bill of attainer is when the legislature post facto creates a bill to punish somebody and an individual. And we saw it with Donald Trump, as I said, when they, the state of New York, when he was under investigation by the House Democrats, the state of New York passed legislation. It was aimed right at Donald Trump that said that the state would surrender confidential state income tax returns to Congress and that's how it started to leak along with the IRS. And then when Eugene Carroll wanted to go after Donald Trump for something that happened 30 years ago, she couldn't remember the date. She had no idea what dress she was. She said she wore a particular dress that wasn't even invented then and she was completely a lunatic. Her employer said in the defamation and compensation suit, we fired her. She was 80 years old. I mean, come on, we don't get sex therapist, sex advice colonists that are 80 years old that are unstable. It wasn't because Donald Trump defamed her. We don't like Donald Trump. That's what they were basically said. So then the legislature passed a law that said for this year, a person can file a sexual harassment, sexual assault charge against somebody without the five year limitation. That was aimed at Donald Trump and they worked and that's how she got back into court. And that's what they're doing to surely. They are targeting him for something he did in the past to punish him. And we'll see if they're stupid enough that if they pass it and then Newsom signs it. Remember Newsom is one who tells us that democracy dies in darkness. So we'll see if he signs it. Are they going to go back and see when does he break the law when it's a new law? Who knows. But the law is being created for past acts, not present acts, not future acts. They're trying to punish him and him specifically. And that's why people call it the Shirley Act. They know what it's for. And Mr. and Mrs. Bonita Bono, excuse me. The Mrs. Bonita. Mrs. Attorney General, whatever you mean. Bonita. Yes. Bonita. I mean, there is such a thing as the separation of powers, legislative, executive, judicial and obviously they're consulting together the Attorney General and his wife to craft a law to get through the Senate and how Newsom signed it. And it's to protect people that could be violent illegal immigrants. If you had somebody who was, if we had a bunch of people coming from the Netherlands illegally or they were coming from Belgium or Hungary illegally and you had an Attorney General who was from Romania and someone, his wife was, you know, from the Netherlands and they were married and they were mad that we were arresting people coming in from Europe illegally and committing crimes and wanted to deport them, people would call them white racist. They really would. White supremacy. What are you doing? What are you doing? Why are you so ethnically biased? Why can't you as public servants of a racially and ethnically diverse state treat people on the basis of their character? Why are you doing this? You're protecting people who have harmed other people. And so it's gone so 360s that the civil rights movement, the idea of we judge the content, it's gone so haywire and at 360 we're back to the ethos and the credo of, I don't know, the old Confederacy. All we do is obsess about race, race and ethnic tribalism, etc. etc. Everybody's terrified. It's interesting, Bonta's in the middle of this, Victor, because one hand, he was the party in one of the more important recent US Supreme Court cases, came out a few years ago, where California wanted to have nonprofits, particularly conservative nonprofits, divulge their donors. Now, I know a lot of us are upset about like who's donating to all these nonprofits that are kneecapping America. It's not, I would say it's not unimportant, but on the other hand, the whole point of what Bonta was and other attorney generals, his predecessors in California were doing with that case and the Supreme Court slapped him down, was to break non-conservative nonprofits. Meanwhile here, the case is to protect leftist nonprofits because they are the funnel for money that bankrolls the left and enriches various people. Anyway, he's an interesting cat. What else shall we talk about, Victor? Well, there's a terrible murder in Britain. This gets like the predisposal of the state and particularly in the UK, it seems a police officer, that doesn't seem to be the case so much in the United States, where we still think of our cops on our side, but not in the UK. There was a finance student, Henry Noak, 18. He was on his way home from a night out. He was attacked by a stranger, Vikram Digwa with an eight-inch blade. Digwa is a chic. He was caught on camera saying, I'm a bad man. He stabbed Noak repeatedly. Police officers showed up. Digwa says, knowing the predisposition of the cops, I was attacked by this racist. The cops put the stabbed Henry Noak in handcuffs and put him beside me, bled to death. So they took the word of the Sikh crazy man. Anyway, this all came out. The reality of it came out. That's just what we've been talking about for years is diversity, equity, inclusion. The problem with it is it destroys all deterrence and it tells a selected group of people based on their appearance that if they say the right things or they claim that they're part of the 30% binary, now it's probably 40%, then they get exemptions. So there was this altercation. He stabbed this man and then he knows that he's committed attempted murder or war murder in this case and the police come and so he says the magic word that puts him in a safe category. He was a racist. Being called a racist is worse than a sexual predator or a murderer apparently. So then they go and while this man is bleeding out, they put handcuffs on him, this boy, and he dies. And then the person who was the perpetrator, it takes him a while to figure out what happened, but they should ask themselves, who trained you policemen? What was the ideology that guided you to kill somebody by letting him bleed out? And they did kill him because he could have been saved. And we saw what happened with George. You could argue that Officer Chauvin didn't mean to kill George Floyd, that he used a standard operating knee and the neck, but it might have been negligent if he had known how much fentanyl and how much post-COVID distress he was in. I thought it should have been involuntary manslaughter at most, but they got him, I think, second degree murder. And the point I'm making is this was even close. This guy put handcuffs on a suspect who was bleeding to death. So my question is, did everybody riot and go crazy? No, because they were part of the victimizer class, the oppressor class. And what makes you oppressor or victimizer in the Western world is not your income, it's not your influence, it's not your morality, it's your skin color, it's that reductionist. And that's what this assailant did. And remember where this came from, everybody, we had a 10 to 12% African-American population and we had a about 85 to 88% white population with small numbers of Asians and Hispanics for most of the 20th century, 20 into the 20th, almost. And then we decided, according to Barack Obama, that wasn't enough. So what he did was when immigration started be opening earlier in 1965, but it really grew under Democratic Presidents, although Clinton said he was against it. What happened was then all of a sudden Obama said, you know, my constituency of the oppressor is not large enough, but I'm going to redefine affirmative action as diversity, equity, inclusion and say anybody, even a multimillionaire like me and my children and Eric Holder's kids and Oprah, everybody is a victim if they're not white. And the white people then or have, they're settler, colonialists, they destroy the Native American, they are all culpable. And you have legitimate grievances that demand repertory treatment. And how's that filtered down to the street? It filters down exactly what we saw in London or it filters every time I go out by the mailbox I did yesterday and I see a truck driver of a particular, in this case, he was of Indian descent going 75 miles an hour with 20 tons behind him. And I look as he fades out my distance and the second trader looks like a dog's tail wagging. And I say to myself, did you really take a driver, a commercial driver's test to get that license? Are you here legally? Can you, do you know that this is, this road is 55 miles an hour tops 55 miles an hour. And then when I see them pass, I said, you know, you can't pass with a semi truck, another car at, you can't do it on a 55. So why was that? And the answer is DEI. And so that's what we're dealing with now. It gives people an exemption and it emboldens anybody. And in some ways it's ironic because it's the new version of the privileged little frat boy in every town there was a little frat boy and you had a lot of money and he was spoiled rotten, mostly white. And he got all the exemptions when the cop pulled him over. If he was in your car, they said, oh, I'm Billy Brown and I, my dad is the biggest insurance salesman on the tri-county area and he's going to call you if you don't let me go. That kind of stuff. And that was very bad. And we kind of got rid of most of that. Although the left, Willie, I can't tell you how many leftist I know that when their children went to college they called and called and called and called to get them in. Do you know who I am? Right? That's the calling card of that arrogance. You know, I can't believe this is happening to me. I forget that one. Yeah, so I mean, they just adopted that it's just a reverse discrimination. They just adopted the worst habits of the wealthy white class privilege and they just defined it by color rather than money and status. Yeah, you're talking about the truck drivers down your street there and you had mentioned earlier, Victor, about this other accident. So it was a Chinese native who actually became an American citizen. I don't know how he got that. But he was given a commercial driver's license, CDL, by New York State. And he's the one in Virginia couldn't read English, couldn't speak English, couldn't read the sides. 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When we thank the good people from Allegiance Gold for sponsoring Victor Davis Hansen in his own words, Victor, I want to get one last thought from you on some Cuba matters. But since you've talked about the front of your house, have you gone walking and we found any sofas, washing machines, anything of interest lately amongst the rows of trees or down the alleyways? Well, I walk closer to the house because I had this, from my operation, I had this AFib and then Takacardia. So I don't want to, I would just be walking at my normal walking rate, maybe 75, 80, and then all of a sudden I'd go up to 110 and I'd get out of breath. So I'd have to call my wife to retrieve me like a puppy dog. So you had it over, really? Yeah. I should say that. The other night I was outside and I heard a guy shooting and it wasn't down in our former pond, maybe a quarter mile away. It was in the orchard right near the house. And then I bent down and tried to see him and then he shot again and then the dogs went crazy. I mean, crazy in the wimpy sense, they went and hid because all of our guard dogs, they were all rescue dogs that people dumped in front of the home. But the ones that, or that we got at the pound, the ones that were really muscular and attack, they all died off and we were left with two wimps that are terrified of us. But anyway, they're good to tell you that when they get terrified and they try to break them through the crawl space and go into the house, it's close. And then my wife came out and she said she heard a whiz go by above in the air of a bullet. This was not a set up question. I had no idea. No, that was two nights ago or last night. Anyway, my point is that we used to have this 135 acres here in this particular place and when our siblings all went to different parts of the country, each person sold their allotment. And the neighbor bought this. He's an investment guy in Los Angeles and he has a guy, Renner, but that pond that was scenic for, it was beautiful when we owned it, is now the local dumping ground. For most of the people here illegally, because I used to walk on it as a public service to the Alvinstein neighbor and a member of my grandfather, I walk out there and say, don't do that. But you know, when you see a guy and he's throwing laundry bags or plastic big garbage bags full of crap into this dry pond or even during the wet pond and you don't know whether he's armed and most of them are armed, it's kind of stupid to say don't do that. And they get belligerent and well, my long thing, when it dries up, then they use this for a shooting match with their AR-15s or what, they go into the bottom of the pond and they have a backstop and they just fire away. And because the renter is just renting it and the owner is living in Los Angeles and will sell it the moment it gets back what he thinks is a particular profit, nobody cares. And it's not my property anymore. So I can't go on, you know, go on, I owned it. I helped my brother and it anyway, we've heard it to him and they sold it. So what I'm getting at is, yeah, it's really dangerous. And Mad Max, Mad Max out there. Well, no one cares though, that's the problem. The law enforcement is overtaxed and you have so many chaotic groups. It's funny because I'll give you a vignette when the big standpipe before the consolidated irrigation district is on our property and that was put in to put the ditches underground. And it's a big, it's got about a 12 foot diameter and it's big. And that was the congregation place for all the people who share and do share the communal ditch. And there was one farmer from Japan, one from India, one from Armenia, one originally from the Netherlands and one from Mexico. And they all would talk and they got along wonderfully. Were they liberal in the traditional sense? No, if you know, if the Armenian guy left, the other guy goes, well, there's the old Armenian, watch your wallet. If the Mexican guy came, where's your sombrero? Or if the white guy, they'd say to my grandfather, you're going to burn up, why are you guys so white? But they were kidding. You know what I mean? It wasn't malicious. And today, nobody would ever say that, but it's malicious. No one, that whole natural diversity is gone. And most of the houses are rented out to people from Mexico here illegally. And there's not single family, every single domicile within a two mile radius of my house with a few exceptions has three or four, I would call them annexes, Winnebago's, lean twos. So you've got maybe 10 or 15, 20, 30, maybe 40 living in one zone for one family. And I don't know who those people are, but they shoot all the time. And you know, it's, I don't know what to say, it's dangerous. It's very dangerous. And I have just spent, you know, most of my disposable income redoing the entire house that was built in 1870, wiring, plumbing, roofing, everything. So it's almost brand new. It's very pretty. It's nice to live here, but there's a big wall around our house. And to go outside is I feel like I'm in North Africa around 460. And the vandals have taken over. And there's just a little bit of fortified Roman farms that you go talk to one and they all have the same stories. Everybody I talked to who's, who's living out in the country has the same story. They came in and they ransacked my house when I went to the coast. I opened a guy walked up and brazenly and threw a dog out of my lawn and took off. Can you believe this? I was out here and I was irrigating and a guy just drove up with a pickup and a shovel and threw out paint cans. And it's, and so when I hear that the attorney general and his wife and the legislature are trying to create a bill of attainer to attack people who try to expose the excesses of illegal immigration and then they don't live here and they don't encounter these things every single day. It's, and, and there is no law. There's no law. I mean, there's no law at all. When you, you talk about the, the old men meeting and breaking each other's chops in a humorous way from days gone by. And that was the way things were. And and it was a lot of humor and there was even camaraderie in that. But nowadays in a society where everyone's a victim, every comment is a potential insult, right? So, well, it's, it's, I think it's worse than that. It's this paradox. I don't know if it's a psychological mechanism to excuse racism, but when you don't, you can't, there's zero tolerance from, for any ethnic jokes or stereotypes. So that's good. As sensibly, but then why are people so much more racially discriminatory and mean to people from different races now than they were, say, 30 or 40 years ago? Yeah. Post civil rights, they are. It really is. And one of the reasons that I got tired of teaching for 21 years in a underserved community, I guess Cal State Fresno was I had students that would self identify when they talk. And I'd say something to the effect. I don't think here's your papers. I corrected every one of them. I want you to pick up your blue books for your test, etc, etc. And then people say as a Latina, I don't relate to this. Or as somebody else. And I couldn't, I couldn't fathom that because knowledge is racial, but they had been taught to say that. And then I had all of these students, I don't want to get too specific that were wonderful. They were, they believed in the melting pot. They were from all over the world. They were from Asia, they were from Africa, they were from the Arab world. I had an irrigation exchange from people from Saudi irrigation that were learning irrigation at the year. I had all these students in the general education. And then I noticed something that right around 2005, 2006, but after I, the last, they, when they were, and they were classically educated, I mean, they, they were classics majors and minors and we made them take French, take French, take Latin and Greek, take philosophy. They were, they were better educated than many of their teachers, professors. And then I noticed that when they went out in the real world and I tried to follow them, they were confronted with DEI and they were offered a big carrot, maybe a stick too. And they started to identify ethnically, you know what I mean? And they had never done that before. They had never done that before. And they found out that there were rewards in emphasizing an ethnic pedigree, however tenuous. And there was a lot, I could see it when we were prepping people to go to graduate school, we would have, I had the most brilliant, one of the most brilliant people I ever had was a white male who was very eccentric, long hair, kind of weird wilderness guy, but he was brilliant. And I had about three students going to graduate school that year. And he did, I was able to call and lobby for him. He had a perfect GRE, perfect, perfect. He was that smart. But he got into a lesser school and the others got into Ivy League schools and he came to me and said, you should be ashamed of yourself. So what did I do? You said, you wrote recommendations for people. I said, they can do the work. You said, yes, but I'm perfect. And he was. And I didn't get the same type of treatment that the others did. I said, from me, you did. But you got to remember, you're at Cal State Fresno, there is a prejudice that's not based on being a white male. It's being also based on coming from a Cal State campus. And so, but my point is, after a few years, I just couldn't take anymore. When I'd see them, they would introduce me as I'm this and that diversity. And I have lost contact with almost all of them. Intersectionality started happening a long time before we called it intersectionality. As you know, DEI started a long time before. It was finally earned that acronym in more recent years. So, you know, you can't have patience. Everybody, you should not have patience with people who self identify ethnically. It's just not, you know, everybody's tired of it because we're a ethnically diverse democracy. Unless you want to go the way India and Brazil are, they have caste systems. And everybody's cognizant of their caste within the democratic formula. But if you do that here, we're going to be like them. And that's why so many people from India and Brazil come up the United States because they feel that whatever particular caste they were or tribe in their home countries, they will be given a meritocratic or even an advantage if they fit the diversity profile here in the United States. So, I don't know why we would do this because tribalism is a pre-civilizational idea. You can read it in the first book of Thucydides when he says, before the city-state, people arranged themselves by tribe and were nomadic and were not stationary. And then they became part of the city-state. And then the first thing is we know they tried to break up tribal identification and say, you're an Athenian, you're not from the tribe of Aeontus or you're not from the Marathon, you are an Athenian. And the same thing with the Roman Republic. Tribalism is the enemy of civilization, ethnic identification that is paramount. You know, it's like my grandfather was Swedish. He's very proud of being Swedish, but when he would walk down Kingsburg, which is a beautiful city still, and there would be people that would identify first as Swedish, he says, I don't know why they're doing this because it was all rocks in Sweden, all rocks. We all came over here because it was rocks. This was the most beautiful country in the world. I love Swedish people, but you know, he had been gassed in World War I for the United States. And then he'd said to me, you know, the Swedes, the Swedes, they were neutral. I was a little bookworm obnoxious brat in high school when he died. And I said, no, Grandpa, they were worse than that. They subsidize the sale of iron or free delivery to the Third Reich. He said, yeah. How old was Grandpa when he came over? He was five years old, 10 years old. Actually, he came as a infant and he went to Chicago, and then he came to Kingsburg. So his knowledge of Sweden was from his father, who came over with, he came over with, he came first, and he was one of these people that found, helped founded this colony called Kingsburg. Then he went back and got a wife, his great grandmother, and then they had four boys, and my grandfather was the oldest, and he was in route. And they had to stop in Chicago because she had delivered him. And then they had four boys. And they were, he, he was a, he gave, if you go to Kingsburg today, he gave his farm or he's, I don't know what the deal was. He had four boys, probably some of them inheritance they sold to the city. But anyway, ended up as a city park, and there's a nice monument on the corner called Hansen Corner across from, that was where the high school was, and the new one is still there. But it's a beautiful city. And it's, you know, it reflects that the good parts of Swedish ancestry, they're very industrious people, and they're fanatic about tidiness, you know what I mean? Yeah. So, you go there and everybody seems that are, and everybody who is not of Swedish ancestry, and it's pretty much played out, let's be honest, it's three and four generations away, very few people speak Swedish or gone to Sweden, but that the fumes of that culture linger. So people who are German or Armenian or Japanese or Mexican American, they, if they go to Kingsburg and they were willing to pay top dollar and housing prices at least, because it's different than the other communities because of that legacy. Right. I've been there, it's a beautiful, as a beautiful town. So, hey Victor, we're, I'll put off because we're, we're at the end here, we have a hard stop for you in a few minutes. So, we'll talk about Cuba, and I want to recommend to our listeners though, they may check out the new criterion where Victor writes somewhat regularly there, and Jim Pearson has a great article on Cuba. He's a great guy. Yeah. Very smart guy. Yeah. So, he's got an essay on, it's called JFK's Revenge, and talks about his assassination, the involvement of Cuba, Castro, Donald Trump's, maybe doing well by JFK in his pressuring of Cuba, but we'll talk about that next episode. I just want to read one or two comments here, Victor, the many people, hundreds of thousands who leave comments. Here's one from on this on YouTube. Lolita, JT1NU writes, our world is becoming a bit scary to me, and VDH explains how things work in the world that helps me cope. At 77 years old, I appreciate his knowledge of history that reveals it's not the first time the issues have been frightening. Thank you, sir. You steady me always. Andrea, Freedom76 writes, I always turn on my notifications for this podcast. It's the first thing I listen to in the morning. I love VDH, and I'm so relieved his cancer diagnosis came back negative. This is from a few weeks ago. The world needs your wisdom, VDH. And one more, Bruce Moore, 6015. I have learned more from VDH than I ever did in college. Thank you for your clarity, sir. These represent so many similar comments and wishes of good will. So thanks, folks, who take the time for writing them. And thanks for those folks who subscribe to Civil Thoughts, which is what one of the things I do for the Center for Civil Society. Go to civilthoughts.com, sign up. Every Friday, you'll get my free email newsletter of 14, 15 recommended readings. All right, Victor, I'm good. Thank you, everybody. I'm going to sneeze now. So I'll end the show. But thanks for all the wisdom you share and the great anecdotes. And we'll be back soon with another episode of Victor Davis Hansen in his own words. Thank you, everybody, for watching and listening. See you next time. You can also check out my own website at victorhansen.com and subscribe for exclusive features in addition.