Bryson’s choice: content or pro golf?, Midpoint check on Tour under-performers, SGS Golf Advice
66 min
•May 21, 20269 days agoSummary
The Shotgun Start discusses Bryson DeChambeau's dilemma between professional golf and YouTube content creation, analyzes mid-season PGA Tour underperformers at the Memorial Day checkpoint, and provides golf club committee advice on managing tee time conflicts between member groups.
Insights
- Professional golfers can successfully balance tour competition with content creation without it being an either/or choice—the time commitments are not mutually exclusive like traditional dual careers
- PGA Tour sponsorship economics are under pressure; $30M title sponsor fees may be unsustainable when corporations can allocate budgets directly to player sponsorships or other golf properties
- Young tour players face a psychological adjustment from sponsor exemption play (low pressure, high upside) to full tour status (constant pressure, cut-line anxiety) that compounds weekly
- Club governance structures fail when leadership is appointed without genuine commitment; the most effective committee members are those who initially resist the role
- Gender equity issues in golf clubs persist as institutional resistance, not isolated incidents—blocking women's tee times is a pattern across 90% of courses
Trends
PGA Tour schedule consolidation around 23 'track one' elevated events with $30M sponsorship minimums signals shift toward fewer, higher-value tournamentsLIV Golf financial distress—seeking $250M with 20-month profitability claims suggests dramatic cost-cutting and purse reductions aheadYouTube golf creators transitioning to professional tour status struggle with mental adjustment and competitive pressure despite strong amateur/content credentialsPacific Northwest market gap for men's professional golf represents untapped sponsorship and attendance opportunityClub-level gender dynamics remain contentious despite LPGA growth; institutional resistance to women's tee time allocation persistsDP World Tour graduates underperforming in FedEx Cup standings; only Christopher Wright in top 10 among recent DP World Tour qualifiersMid-market cities (Des Moines, Louisville, Nashville) outperform major metros for golf event attendance and community engagementInfluencer-driven player hype cycles creating unrealistic expectations for young tour pros; first-year adjustment period underestimated by media
Topics
Bryson DeChambeau's Content vs. Competition DecisionPGA Tour 2028 Schedule Restructuring and Track One EventsLIV Golf Financial Distress and Bankruptcy PreparationMid-Season PGA Tour Underperformers AnalysisYoung Tour Player Adjustment and Sponsor Exemption DynamicsGolf Club Committee Leadership and GovernanceWomen's Golf Association Tee Time Allocation ConflictsPGA Tour Title Sponsorship Economics and $30M PricingPacific Northwest Golf Market Expansion OpportunityDP World Tour Graduate Performance in FedEx CupVictor Hovland's Mid-Season SlumpTommy Fleetwood's Fashion Influencer vs. Pro Golfer BalanceSander Scheffler's Win Drought Since 2024 Open ChampionshipPGA Tour Ratings Performance and Viewership TrendsClub-Level Gender Equity in Golf Access
Companies
LIV Golf
Seeking $250M in funding with claims of 20-month profitability; reports of bankruptcy preparation and significant inv...
PGA Tour
Restructuring 2028 schedule with 23 track-one elevated events, $30M title sponsorship minimums, and expansion into ne...
ESPN
Reported significant investor interest in LIV Golf and potential business plan presentations to partners
Bloomberg
Reported LIV Golf laying groundwork for potential US bankruptcy filing by end of 2026
Axios
Reported Scott O'Neill shopping LIV Golf to outside investors seeking $250M with 20-month profitability projection
Financial Times
Previously reported LIV Golf profitability timeline of 5-10 years, contrasting with current 20-month claims
People
Bryson DeChambeau
Facing decision between professional golf and YouTube content creation; appeared on Katie Miller podcast discussing c...
Scott O'Neill
Shopping LIV Golf to outside investors; seeking $250M funding with 20-month profitability claims
Scotty Scheffler
Referenced as benchmark for top-tier professional performance; won PJ Championship with strong ratings
Victor Hovland
Ranked third in world but underperforming in 2024; identified as needing to refocus on golf vs. swing mechanics
Tommy Fleetwood
Potentially balancing fashion influencer presence with professional golf; underperforming at majors this season
Sander Scheffler
Two-time major winner with top-10 finishes at every major but limited wins since 2024 Open Championship
Taylor Pendrith
Ranked 92 in FedEx Cup standings; key international team player for Presidents Cup facing qualification jeopardy
Jason Day
Operating YouTube golf stable with young players; balancing professional tour play with content creation
Elon Musk
Referenced by Bryson regarding moon travel; Bryson considering space golf content as potential career direction
Alan Jamison
Featured in prior Shotgun Start podcast episode about club renovation; provided foundational advice on committee gove...
Kenny Atkinson
Criticized for lineup decisions and player management in sports discussion segment
Josh Carpenter
Provided PGA Tour schedule reporting and PJ Championship ratings analysis
Quotes
"I'm in a weird space right now. I don't know what to do either. Content creation or professional golf. I don't know what to do right now."
Bryson DeChambeau•~25:00
"He doesn't have to clearly bank the money. Like it's not, I don't think it's really a Sophie's choice here. He's got, he doesn't have to do anything probably with the money he's made."
Host•~27:00
"The original YouTubers, these guys who are at the top right now, probably Brian Brothers, Horvath and these people, Good Goods. Like got in it because they wanted to make cool stuff and they thought it was fun."
Host•~35:00
"There's no way that happens without like huge change to the league and how they conduct business. The purses are going way down, way down."
Host•~55:00
"I just would like the discourse to get just a little bit more patient. Everybody expects somebody to be the next JT or Jordan Spieth, where at age 21, they just are setting the world on fire."
Host•~90:00
Full Transcript
Now the shotgun starting golf is full of mathematics. There's a lot of setup work that we have to do in order to make a tournament work. So I'm going to demonstrate to you just exactly how we do a shotgun start here. And here we go. Alright, alright, alright. Gentlemen! Start your engine! Greetings and welcome to a Friday edition of the Shotgun Start. It is May 22nd. Andy, how we doing? Brendan! You know, I'm doing well. I got to say, it was a tough week for my cubbies in PCA. I saw a little league home run. I went through as, which means, you know, an error. I don't know if it's scored inside the park home run. This PCA just ran by the ball. Whoops! I mean, I see that on a nightly basis here in the youth sports schedule. But your guy PCA, I was wrong. Did you see Yelda at the Sox van this weekend too? No. He curled, you know, he cursed out a Sox van. Like, he was like, sitting down after he crashed into the wall or something. This woman yelled at him and he got up and just yelled some explosives back at her. I'm ballistic. So he just had a bad week for him. You know, alright, there we go. That's life, you know? Humps and bumps. You really don't see the little league home run. You see it inside the park because the guy dives, lays out forward or something. You don't see that one very often. It's really got to be unique set of circumstances. It's got to be straight away center. So neither like outfielder, the other outfielder, get to it in any amount of time. That was remarkable. He's got to be fast. He's opened himself up because of his antics and what he's done. Is he a firebrand? I don't follow closely. Okay. So he like constantly, he's from the LA area. Constantly talks shit about Dodger's fans. And then like, you know, the tribalism of PCA, you know, then leads to people like, because he's like this great defender. So like, you know, they have all these stats. PJ's coming. PJ's a PCA hater. So what occurs on this podcast is a microcosm of the larger discourse here. I don't, I'm not, I'm not a hater. I just, I needed to let everybody know that last year was unsustainable. It was never going to happen again. Here we are. He's sitting 220. He's got five home runs on the year. We're at Memorial Day. Last year at this point, he had like 15. Congrats to him. If he's not playing defense, I'm not really sure what he does. So, you know, congrats. I've quirked up Kevin Kiermeyer, I guess, angry Kevin Kiermeyer. But, but anyways, how are you feeling after, after your calves collapse? How are you boys talking about PCA? We keep talking about PCA if you'd like. I look at sportsmen here at the top. It's Friday. It's Friday in theory. We have YouTube people watchers like very confused about why we say the day and time when it's not quite. Look, the origin of this podcast is we record like honestly 11pm and not schedule until the next morning. So, I would just say. COVID happened and everybody stopped going into offices and commuting. Yeah. Commute, you know, so then we just started to throw it up whenever we got it done. But the opening doesn't change. We still save the day and time on which it's supposed to come out. So, I apologize. And I don't think, actually, I don't apologize. That's just the way it's been. And if you're crossed up on YouTube and you don't understand what the actual day and time is, that's on you. I apologize for misdirection. So, this is technically Thursday. We're going early doing sportsmen at the top. But if you want us to talk about Cameron Champ two under three three, you're just not going to get it. And maybe that's going to be a big blow to CJ Cup by Rinalson that it's skill separates. And Scotty can really, if you've got Cameron Champ rummaging around the top of leaderboard, but it's three holes in. So, we'll see. You want to talk about the calves? I don't want to talk about the calves. I'm good. I had my son at a golf match three hours for nine holes. When got like ice cream after got home. It was so late. They were up a lot. I said, you know what, they're probably going to win if they don't win. I don't want to watch it. I don't want to watch New York fans be happy. That would be the most triggering thing of this whole situation. So, I didn't. Of course, I checked the score every 30 seconds on my phone. But yeah, that happened. I'd seen Cabs fans really bad at Kenny Atkinson over the last month. They're like, guys, I really are smart. X's and O's and stats guys. And just not doing the right run on the right lineups, all this stuff. And that was sort of a national deep hancing for Kenny and James Harden. But James Harden is who we thought he was. Right. We knew that was the case. But we got a problem. James Harden seems to be a capital P problem in a bad way. We allegedly like have to keep them because we traded for him. We have like a not, not, do we have to resign him multi-year deal? Like he's not going to change. I think you should bring LeBron home. We should quite frankly. That's happening. That's a thousand percent. That issue is LeBron. I don't think LeBron, the golf will satisfy what he's actually interested in. Absolutely. That's not true. That's not true. He can't play golf in the winter. LeBron can do whatever he wants. He can fly to, you know, Miami or Ocean Reef Club, all these places for a weekend and come back and play. I don't care. Like he's fine. Well, Cleven's got a great golf scene. You can play just not in January. It was a disaster. It was a disaster. Of course, now they're going to, like Mitchell might be hurt. I don't know what's going on there. That was the one. I mean, the Knicks, I guess they're good. I guess Brunson's kind of a foul merchant. He doesn't, doesn't need to stop. He doesn't even need to be that though with Hardin. He, he, every, every garden, the NBA has become a foul merchant. Him, Shay. Hardin to be clear, totally unethical. Like just dribbles till the three seconds. He's the original foul merchant for a file. I will a thousand percent cop. The Jalen Brunson is a foul merchant, but it's hard to be a foul merchant when you just drain in threes on totally. He didn't need to be even in that game. He didn't need to be, but first half of you was haunting anyways. I was so happy and that's it. I was so happy in order for Shalame, Kylie Jenner, and then PJ. That was the order of happiness. I mean, it's kind of weird how the whole like, the Knicks experience has been co-opted by like three celebrities and they're like these, you know, like that's like 98% of Knicks fandom now is what's shown. These like Shalame kind of, This is what happens in society today. We lose all the good hearty fans like PJ. They're like, I think Shalame is a real sicko from what I understand, but like he's the only guy they show. I don't know. It's weird. Ben Stiller. Ben Stiller is great. Ben Stiller, all Ben Stiller wants to do is talk about the Knicks. That's great. Good. So I expect they'll get blowed out on tonight. I guess Thursday night will be 02. Cavs will get smoked and yeah, that's it. That was the chance, obviously. I don't know that the Knicks are like that. Great. I don't think the Knicks are good. Well, I don't think they are. I'm not saying that either, but I don't, I don't think they're, I think the Celtics were the best team in the East. And they just removed themselves from the conversation. Thankfully. Honestly, everybody sticks except for the Spurs and the Thunder. Yeah. Well, none of this matters anyway, but yeah, there's like a, there's I've harboring this illusion like where like there was a run last year where the Cavs were insane. Like the, like just being everybody by 25 didn't matter. All the best Western Conference team didn't matter on the road, home that like that team is in there somewhere. But, you know, obviously Garland's gone and all these things. I just, I think there's real questions about Atkins. Like that's, you can't let that happen. Like you cannot, I'm sorry. And then like he will refuse to take harden out and then just switches them on. Like it's just insane. Kenny. I will say the Knicks did defeat the Spurs for a trophy already this season. It would not be the first time that this happened, but maybe across seven game series. I don't like our odds. People are going to be so mad about sportsmen at it. Well, you went there. You went there. We're eight minutes in. It's Friday, 9am Thursday, 9am. What I would say is that it's going to be rare, rare occasions that, you know, you know, two sports teams of this podcast, the, the really dire, dire existence of our sports teams get to the opportunity to play for a chance to be in the finals. Guards of one eight and nine, five in a row, first place, pretty, pretty plain ethical baseball, plus minus on the run. Should we do more sports minute or great usual acceptable this year? Um, all right, let's get to more numbers. We should talk about the jets. PJ any jets update you want to throw out there real quick? I don't want to talk about the jet. I'm not interested in talking about the jets. I have no, I have no interest. Who's there starting quarterback next year? You know, that's, you know, it's better than yours options, I guess, but it's not great. It's not great. Apparently, let's keep it going. Apparently there were a bunch of interceptions in Brown seven on seven. And Todd Monkin was like, I've never seen that before. Like, like chewed out the team. We're at May 20th. He's like, I've never seen like offense that bad and just seven on seven. I was like, all right, let's go. Anyway, it's guards ball. Um, all right. PJ, let's get some more numbers. PJ ratings, ratings, ratings, rating, Josh Carpenter ratings boy with the report, uh, 5.8 million, uh, 5.7 for the final round, uh, which is up significantly over a Scotty Schaeffler winning at Quail hollow. Um, really the biggest since Phil won at Kiewa in 2021. It was the second most watched sports event outside of cabs, pistons, games seven. I just, that's good. You know, all the haters on Aaron Rye and all these things like snooze fest at the end, a decent rating, uh, for the PJ championship. Now they just like the numbers are all like, it feels like the data, but they never released that. They never talk about that in the press releases. Like, well, the way they compile data is different than the way they did three years ago. Big data panel. It's just like comparing almost two different sports, but, uh, good PGA after all the haters shit on Aaron Rye, you know, great PGA. I think too, like the way Sunday was set up, it just led to a lot of interest where you basically had almost every big name in the sport with a shot, um, to win, you know, and the big names in the sport of professional golf, but I saw Bryson went on a podcast. He's got a big decision between pro golf and YouTube golf going to the moon or not. Yeah. Bryson Bryson, you want to go to Bryson? I had him buried later and like, we can talk about him now. Why not? It's whip around Friday. It's Friday morning. Um, we're almost a, you know, we're almost to summer Fridays. This was the summer. What was their summer Fridays program a couple of years ago? Friday hours. It meant we would record early and make it quick and whatever, you know, irreverent, but nothing. Those might be the boys hours this summer. Yeah. That was the time where we felt like we didn't have to record at 11 p.m. the night before and we could actually do it at like three or four. It's, you know, everything changes. Bryson boys Memorial Day episode Bryson on the Katie Miller podcast. So a colleague of ours in the podcast space said, quote, I'm in a weird space right now. I don't know what to do either. Uh, colon what to do either content creation or professional golf. I don't know what to do right now as a content creator. I would say professional golf maybe should be the route to go, but, uh, he seems torn. I don't know what to do right now. Content creation or professional golf. I don't know what to do. You know, you know, this is a common place for somebody to be when a negotiation that you think is going to yield good results for you goes south. So, you know, if you, if you say perhaps went to the table with a audacious number and said, this is what it costs. And then, then you have a counter offer that you reject. And then the person gets up from the table and walks away. Often that situation yields you feeling like you have no, you don't know what to do. It always, it almost always puts you in an awkward situation. And it appears that's where Bryson has landed or, or Bryson could just be normal and be a professional golfer and go back and start making millions of dollars as a high level professional golfer and work and do the YouTube stuff. Yeah. But again, like just, he doesn't have to clearly bank the money. Like it's not, I don't think it's really a Sophie's choice here. He's got, he doesn't have to do anything probably with the money he's made. But like the normal routine, if he wants to be like just go play your way up to the top of professional golf and what's left of it and be a professional golfer what you've seen born to want to do for at least 20 years. Listen, I, I am not, I don't want to diminish anything that the YouTube golfers do. I think those guys work really hard. And I think they have built like really cool fan, uh, fandoms and this like rabid fan base that loves watching what they do. But like, are we, is Bryson like overplaying maybe like how much work, like he's got a team of people that makes the stuff. I imagine if they just said one day a week, we're going to go film something. Also play professional golf what like 17 weeks a year, 20. Yeah. Like I don't think this is a too much and one, it's not like they're like, Hey, you know what? Like I'm going to, I want to be an accountant and I want to do road construction and like the road construction crews need me from five a.m. till three p.m. But I also want to be an accountant. So I need to be present from eight a.m. to five p.m. Like this is not that like where there are two dramatically different occupations that I like you can do both of these things. I think pretty successfully. There are other p.j. Who are some other pro golf YouTubers now? Tommy Fleetwood. Tommy Fleetwood. Jason Day. Jason Day has like a whole stable. I believe that he's the leader of really. Yeah. I've honest. Ah, that's interesting. Maybe he should get a barn at his house in Columbus and and then every and then he should bring young young pups in and they stay in the barn and they could call the stable. Jason Day just being enamored with Columbus is so on point. He can paint half of it browns colors and half of it stealers. Listen to his first. All right. I think we did a poll, a poll that was like completely unbiased about about the best cities in Ohio and I believe Columbus came pretty pretty high in those rankings a couple years ago. Maybe a Twitter poll. That probably doesn't. It's not a real reflection of anything. Twitter poll. I would say on the YouTube thing, you're talking about those guys working hard. Like I agree with you. I had somebody point out to me like maybe it was an agent actually. I think you were there for it. It stuck with me on like a million different industries. Like the original YouTubers, these guys who are at the top right now, probably Brian Brothers, Horvath and these people, Good Goods. Like got in it because they wanted to make cool stuff and they thought it was fun and they thought it was like a channel to do something cool and like they were obviously have some golf skill and this was a way to display it and work at it and create something that was work but fun. And it obviously took off as really popular genre that has birthed this whole generation of YouTubers or that I don't know heads from tails. Like that just Jack or DoD King. I don't know. They could they could be original too. I'm not an expert in the space. That just don't do it to make something fun or because they like it, but do it because it's clearly to be famous. And also there's some financial real financial stake in it. And so I don't know that Jason Day as a stable. I didn't know that Bryson seems to like enjoy it. Like seems to seems to I think he likes being part of the community unlocks a part of his. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I would say it's generally a a a a doring community one without there's where there's not a lot of scrutiny for any and Bryson likes to be in that place. Right. Let's let's if we get if we boil down Bryson. I think like at the core of Bryson, he just loves when people love him and he's like a part of a community where he is like an important part of the community. And I imagine the feedback loop for him is so satisfying. Yes. Where like reading through the comments and like, you know, I think he's like, I think this version of golf is like, I think it's pretty interesting in general. But again, he's because you're doing YouTube golf doesn't preclude you from being a high level real golfer. And of course they love him. He's legitimately like a top five golfer in the world, not at the second. But is he still dropping it now? No, no, we're going to do a midpoint check in and he's number one on my list. And are we going to get to the midpoint check? Yeah, but no, we are. We are. So Bryson said he's he's torn. He also in the this podcast with Katie Miller says Elon Musk says we've definitely gone there to the moon. So I tend to go that route. Thank you. You needed Elon didn't need anybody just Elon that follow you into the fire, but nobody else. I tend to go that route. Nevermind the. Nevermind the rocket scientists or 60 years of NASA footage scientists research. Elon says we've gone there. So I go that route. I don't think the footage is real, but I think we did go to the moon. I don't know about the footage. It's quite wild. So that was a little. Hey, I think Russians on this pod. So we just point out that what the what he's letting the ground work here with that comment for what he wants to go to the moon. He won't believe we played. We played golf on the moon with the thumbnail. You too. With him in a in a space in an astronaut in an astronaut suit. Him hitting golf balls pointing at the moon like this. The moon's right there. Like I I would I might put money on this for like the next five years like Bryson plays golf on the moon. If there were odds. In one of Elon's little rockets is where he's going to go. All right. Like he's laying the groundwork for this because he will. Elon wants to make space travel legitimate. What better way that Bryson goes and hits a golf ball from the moon. That's Bryson minute. Didn't expect to go there that early elsewhere on live minute. I expected to do this late, but who knows. It's Friday whip around this. This we ignored on Wednesday. We were just enamored with Lanny Watkins. Axios is Dan Primaac reports that Scott O'Neill has shopped live to outside investors and they're seeking 250 million projecting profitability within 20 months. There weren't a lot of things you want. There weren't many details about how that would happen and why that would happen and why it would just be 250 as opposed to the five billion that's been done. Profitability within 20 months. There were, I think, a Financial Times article that said five to 10 years. That was stated not long ago in the Financial Times like this year. Then there was a next option with 150 million that would be continued on team sales. That came out at the start of this week. ESPN reported that live has received quote significant interest from potential investors and will soon be presenting its business plans to potential partners. Significant interest, this was a day after Bloomberg reported that live has begun quote laying the groundwork to potentially file for bankruptcy in the US at the conclusion of 2026. Quote, they are preparing for the lease collapse when the season ends in late August as a possible outcome. We've got ESPN, significant interest from potential investors. We've got Bloomberg saying ready for collapse in August, filing for bankruptcy. We have a third rail that says 250 million is what we need profitability in 20 months. We're kind of, I would say, splashing the pot, throwing it all over the dartboard right now with potential pathways or potential realities, I guess. Feels like a lot of work in the refs. Maybe, yeah, yeah. Seems like a lot of potential options. So that's what do you mean? A real question I have for you. Yeah. The profitability in five to 10 years seemed like, I think that was like a legitimate, you know, hey, you know, with our current, the way we're currently operating, this is where we see this. If you then all of a sudden fast forward to now a moment of distress, this is not a controversy. Like, if you're a live fan, if you're not a live fan, you're in a moment of distress as an organization right now. Yep. This is gone, you know, we need 250 million and we're going to be profitable in 20 months. There's no way, like, there's no way that happens without like huge change to the league and how they conduct business. Yep. So I would say there's not going to be concerts. The buildouts are going to be significantly smaller. Like the player, the purses are going way down, way down. This is like an attempt, like I would say if you're going to say for 250 million, we're going to be profitable in 20 months. This is going to resemble more of a European tour feel or, you know, even corn fairy tour feel than the current live existence. Yeah. A lot of distress there. And if you're distressed, you could use some good sleep. Some real good sleep. That's right. Scott O'Neill's burning the candle both ends probably. He needs some good sleep. And we'd recommend to live executives, I think they got all our work. I think it's possible. I'd recommend eight sleep.com slash Friday. You go to eight sleep, spell it out. E I G H T sleep.com slash Friday. Check out the pie pod five. 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Well, I don't know about the ad reads that followed that one, but I do know that the 8sleep one was a good one. That was a good one. Going from four footers to fundraising deck. Very good job, Andy. All right. No more on live moment, live minute. We're all over the place with live. It's just, there's a lot of options and we'll see. Could be a summer of, a summer of life and death. Hey, we had somebody reach out. I noticed you have an Illinois sweatshirt on. I assume that's not to celebrate the golf prowess at regional. We had several people reach out saying, I need to pop you for this. They got whipped up by Harvard rice, the rice cakes, Kansas, Northwestern, Southern Miss. They finished a T11 of 13 teams. They did beat Howard, my local team, the H.U. Bison at regional and Athens. I was told to call that out, but you know, you have a year like that. You guys went to the final floor, but people are asking me to do that. People are asking me to GM you on behalf of the listeners. Listen, golf is weird sport. Sometimes you don't bring it and we didn't get off the bus. That's right. And you know, it's nice to be in a spot where people, you're sick. They have so much success that people feel the need to pop you when you're, when you're rarely down. Yes. I, I, that was my reaction, but I've just stipulated for the record on behalf of the listeners that I had to GM. Listen, I'm proud of the kids that went out there and fought, you know. You're proud of those kids. All right. I'm proud of the kids. I'm proud of the program. Maybe send them an IEL money to show your pride. Right. We should, I should, I should make some NIL, NIL Illinois gear and make it, make our own little NIL shop. Whip around Friday. Next goes to the PGA tour schedule. This is from our friend, Josh Carpenter, who also had the ratings talk. I didn't see. Not to be little as a reporting. There was a ton of new stuff from maybe I, maybe this is new publicly, I guess, but we're looking at 16 track one events that does not include four majors and three FedEx Cup playoffs. So 23 quote unquote elevated tournaments track one. I like the idea of getting rid of, of the playoffs just entirely. Yeah. Should just end. So what happens? We go to the open, and then whatever few events after that in August. I think, yeah, that might be a challenge. So 23 track one, including the majors, playoffs, 120 man fields, expected to be in that, in that new track one or three new markets, either from a collection of Boston, Philly, Denver, Nashville, San Francisco. There's also an additional interest in Seattle markets. So Holly Carpenter reported as a potential option. So a couple bigger markets for three at this point. And they want 30 million from potential title sponsors, which is a lot of money. It just feels out of, out of, out of whack, but maybe that's, that's, they know what they're doing. They, I'm sure they do. They'll figure it out. The track two tournaments would include 140 man fields. Still unclear what that means for, you know, the KFT, PGA tour Americas, with sort of this like laddering up situation from track two to track one. This is all for 2028. 2027 is still rather in flux. Seems like the floor to swing is really in flux. They don't have dates for that. All we know is there's no Hawaii and maybe about 13 other events are slotted so far. It's mostly where it's always been so far with the schedule other than no Hawaii, but 2028. How about no Chicago? In what, 27 or just in their, in their potential new market? Yeah. Or is it not a new market? I think that's where it would fall. It's like they would just hopefully make the BMW championship, formerly the western open, maybe permanently in Chicago. What do you think about Sahali, Seattle? I mean, I prefer, I prefer Chambers Bay, but I will say like Sahali would be fun for a week. That's the thing I think about like last week, right? We just like a little bit of mystery. I'm not suggesting like sometime mystery is going to be bad. It's going to be terrible. It's going to be like, God, this stinks. What a waste of a week. But something new, a little bit of change. Ironically, I'd seen a major there in 50 years or 60 years. I mean, if the tour, random brace venues and the idea that the setup crew is, is trying to thwart players, if they could get to that philosophy, They're the defense. Yeah. I think it would be really fun where you mix around venues. I really, I, you know, like, do, do I want to play Castle Pines every day of my life? No. Did I enjoy it a couple of years ago when they had the BMW there? Yeah. I thought it was fun and different. Um, you know, I, I enjoyed Wilmington, you know, once, one time, but like, do I want Wilmington every year? No. But do I, did I enjoy it one year out of five? Yeah. Like if they could get to that, that ability, I, I, I'm fascinated by the idea of like, could you get sponsors and the sponsors seem like kind of the tricky, tricky piece of this, right? Yes. $30 million. How many companies legitimately are there that can foot that bill? And then also not one, any say and where it's going. Well, I think like the companies that can, that can afford $30 million, probably look at it and say like, yeah, like those are companies that generally are going to be okay with it moving around. Totally. The couch cushion money, maybe for those kinds of companies, but I think the tricky thing that they're embarking on here is something that I believe you alluded to a few years ago or a few weeks ago, a few episodes ago. God, I'm just shrinking time quickly there. Who knows? But like the idea of, of what you could, how you could spend $30 million in pro golf and do you get more or less impact for it? Like what if you spent $30 million on pro golfers? What does that buy you? Yeah, I think that's, that's a conversation happening at some of these companies that can afford it. Or I could just chip that in to be, you know, the secondary sponsor of a major or something else that's not PGA tour controlled, or I could just sponsor the top five players in the world for a year or two. Yeah, there's all sorts of stuff, not for 30 million per cent, but any amount of players. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, like that's the thing. If you said, okay, I want to allocate $30 million to, to player sponsorships, screw this. Because like the other thing that comes with these sponsorships is like ad buys, player sponsorships, mandated media buys with the tour that you'll see on PGA tour own channels. You know, if you, if you pay attention to what is a PGA tour own channel, you'll see that stuff. Which is mandated by part of this sponsorship package. So like the reality is a lot of this, this, the number for the event is acts and then it escalates higher up. But like, okay, yeah, this is expensive. But like, what if I just took that money and went straight to the players? Yeah. They're agents, whoever. Yep. Would you like, would you net net out with what you actually want? Like, hey, we sponsored Tommy Fleetwood and he does two corporate days for us a year where we can bring 20 people and we bring our 40 best clients and he hangs out with them for two days. Like, is that a better use for money or is it having a chalet that people like can generally come to and don't really pay attention to the golf? Yeah, probably depends a little bit on your business or your sales or you know, all these different things. Yeah, I mean, to use the NFL analogy, like where roll up came from, if you're a TV network, it's like you either have the NFL or you don't. And you're like inside the area. If you don't, here, like, let's call it whatever any of them Coca-Cola, there's none specifically ATT any of them, BMW, all these could just be like, ah, wait, I could also not sponsor a PGA Tour event and but just sponsor all the golfers or sponsors get in with the US Open Open Championship, all these things like they're 18 Ryder Cup, they're like 18 different avenues. There's not just NFL or either have it or I don't. There's like eight different avenues to get in the golf. So yeah, it's just it's an interesting situation. And I think that's one of the things that makes this job that he has pretty hard. But if you pull pulls it off, you know, golf will be in a really good spot. Yeah. Yeah, it's great on it looks cool on paper and interesting and they're driving towards it. It's a lot of work. That's our PGA Tour schedule. What one of those markets excites you the most? I think the Pacific Northwest, I think is one that's just been a total blind spot. Sorry, PJ. Sorry, Champions Tour comms. Don't call us mad about the Boeing classic being up there and snow qualmy or wherever that is. I think that's been a blind spot way just ridiculous blind spot for professional golf, men's professional golf, non champions to addition for a while. And so that excites me. I think Nashville would be pretty cool too. Obviously like, that's super growing and an opportunity to have an event at a place that doesn't have a ton of sports competition. You know, I was talking to somebody last night. I was at our Friday golf club event who is from Midland, Michigan. And we were talking about the Midland, Michigan LPGA event. Yeah. And he was like, you know, and as soon as he said he's from Midland, I was like, oh, no. You know, you said our golf course sucks. Yeah. And I was like, yeah. But then, you know, we were talking about the event there and it's like, you know, for the LPGA, that town is the Dow Chemical has like a lot of affluence. And it's like the event of the year and the town. Yeah. And it's like the whole town, there's like a community aspect around it. And I think that's one of the dynamics of the PGA tour. These big markets, you, you're just like kind of like a byline the way golf is on, you know, Boston. It's like, you're kind of, they got so much stuff going on that you're like a byline. And I know I'm talking out both sides of my mouth here. Yeah. I think it's a fascinating conversation for these decision makers and why, like, and I'm sure this goes through the call. Like, would you be from, I don't think from network TV and widespread interest better off, but from a, you know, on-site experience standpoint, I think if you targeted, like, if you had an event, I always think about the Des Moines Soul, Soulheim Cup that set attendance records. Almost threw that out when you're, yeah, that's the one. Like that, if you go to Des Moines, it is the biggest, it's like the event of the summer. In Chicago, which I always say we have to have an event, it is like, okay, like Lollapalooza might be happening that weekend, or the Cubs could be playing well, or the Crosstown, like all these other things can get in the way. Can get in the way of, like, the magnitude of your event in a local market. I mean, I think we've seen that in recent years. You know, the Louisville, the reaction to hosting is major there. It's like a mid-market, not the biggest market. St. Louis is going to be huge this year for the BMW. Yeah. Portrush is, like, insanely remote, and it's like smashing attendance records. So, it's interesting. It's an interesting dynamic, but like, you talked about the unique sort of occurrence of Dow being in Midland. Like, there's also like, does AT&T be, do they want to go to Des Moines? Do they want to go to, like, Lollapalooza? Right? So that's the push and pull. It depends on where that corporation is. So, schedule. An interesting, a lot of stakeholders. That's always been the issue with the PGA Tour schedule. Locations, venues, sponsorship, players, dates. It's a hard puzzle to put together. Let's do a little midpoint check-in real quick. Whip around. We're through two majors. We've got two men's majors. It seems like summer's just starting. It is. But the PGA Tour schedule's mostly over. We've got half the majors done. Memorial Day is here. FedExCupVents are almost done. FedExCupStandies, I don't want to say the die is cast, but yeah, you've got two majors and you've got Memorial Travelers. And that's kind of it. And then 3M and you're boom, playoff time here. So, who would you say, let's talk about players you need to get on their horse. You need to get on your horse like, hey, it's just Memorial Day. You've got to wake up. It's getting hot out. Who needs to get on their horse? I had a long list of different category players, but do you have one you want to throw out? I have one that's prescient. PJ and I had an off-the-record conversation with somebody yesterday about. Listen, this guy is an icon of team match play competitions. And I think he was going to be a building block for the international team. Pendi, Taylor Pendrith. He's got to get on his horse. He's number 92 in the FedExCupStandies. Hasn't had a good year. Lots of people were saying, you know, Pendi's going to break out. And now he's in jeopardy of qualifying for the, you know, getting a spot on the peak up. And what would we, you know, like without the bagel boys, what would we do? There is no peak up without the bagel boys. He's not even in the top 15 of the, of the, this is all the, how come the PGA tour gives us only the top 15 of the standings? I don't know. He's always finding new wrinkles to complain about the PGA tour websites. You want to know who's who the P the internationals are rolling out right now? No, actually I don't, but go ahead. Hideki Siwu, Minwu, Jason Day, Adam Scott, Nico Minit is in there. So we got sportsman in, but we got Nico. What do you think about Nico? Nico, that would be great. Colombians. There was a bunch of the salt bay. Salt bay. Coming back to Chicago. There's going to be so much salt activation in Chicago. He's got to go to the salt shed. There you go. He should have his own event at the salt shed. Who else do we got? Corey Connors at seven, Ryan Fox, Nick Taylor, Rio Hatsune, this would be a good spot. Yeah. Then they got Shaper, Jaden Shaper. Good young South African. Sung Jay, Casey Jarvis is 13. Pocketers 14. There's some options. How Tongue's 15. Feels like he's going to be on the team. Maybe. Maybe. I had him, you know, one thing about this midpoint, just go ahead PJ. I was just going to say Rico, how are you still in contention? All right. We got a list. All right. We got a way to get to 15. I did not have Pendi on my list, quite frankly. Well, I think it's someone. Pendi's nothing good. An account of being Taylor Pendrith. I didn't have him on the list. Come on. Get on your horse. I was like, I got to pay attention to what's going on with Pendi. That was, that was, this is a big week for Pendi. I had, I had Bryson. I had Bryson who we've discussed already, two forks in the road. What do I choose? I had Victor Hovland. Like seems like an interesting discussion to have around Victor Hovland. You got the third in the world. You won the Valspar last year, but that seems like sort of an interruption in like what's been since you won the FedEx Cup end of 24. That was like sort of a blip. You still lost. When's the Valspar since that tour champ in 2023, I should say. You placed third at Oakmont, which I didn't even remember. I, you know, that was kind of a wish you washed out Sunday. Like Oak Hill has only been his real chance at a major, like real, like I have it chance here in the final hour and a half. And just kind of, he's been pretty, he's pretty bad this year and hasn't done a lot since he won that tour championship. He's got to get back to playing golf and stop playing golf swing. Yeah. Yep. So he's won. Get on your horse this summer. Can I point out some guy, guy create a whole grouping? The group of players that influencers everywhere said we're going to change the, change the PGA tour and just heaping unrealistic expectations on, on these young players or just trying to figure out how to be a professional. Who's that? This is a long list. The crazy long list when you, when you go through it here. So we got Michael Brennan, 124. And the FedEx cup. He's got the exemption from black desert. Incredible year last year, but you know, I think people don't talk enough about like how hard your first year on tour is. You're, you're playing all these courses that everybody else has played. David Ford, 129. PGA tour use number one guy. Luke Clanton is 149. If we keep going down the list, Gordon Sarge's 155. We've got, and then we've got a Crystal Lampract at 186. So I would just throw those guys like kind of into their own, their own bucket. Where's Neil Shipley? 198. You're talking about influencers and all that. That loved him. Yeah. Okay. It's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, you know, like this is not, I'm not bagging on them. I think people just under сорate how good the PGA tour is. And they see these players play really well. really well. Well, guess what? Like golfing, when, and I think like this is something people realize like playing on a sponsor's exemption is like kind of freeing. It's like, well, if I play well, I've got a lot to gain, but there's nothing to lose playing for my, yeah. Yeah. All of a sudden you get on tour and it's like, you're at the bottom of the totem pole. You have to play well certain weeks. And then the weight, if you don't play well, which I think is like the thing that we're seeing with these young guys is like, it compounds every week. It is like, man, like I have to go out and just making the cut becomes like, you know, there's like a psychology of the cut where it's like, okay, like I just have to make the cut. And then if the cut becomes your goal, you're inevitably going to be right around the cut every week. And you're going to miss a lot of cuts. And so I just would like the discourse to get just a little bit more patient. And I think, you know, everybody expects somebody to be the next JT or Jordan Spieth, where at age 21, they just are setting the world on fire. And you're seeing it like, I have really high expectations for Jackson Coyven. But like, these comparisons before they have done anything as a professional, like, like as a tour pro, a card carrying tour pro, we just have to slow down. Good, good. Good point. That's good category. So those are the guys that have a little bit more time. They like, that's a three M open, you target those you target post FedEx cut playoff type fall things. They have a little all these guys, they got one, they have to have one great, they have to have a good week. Like, like for a lot of these players, a T 14, where they feel I can build off this, is they have to have one of those soon. They've got some feasting opportunities with deer, rocket, three M, the alt events, barbous, those kinds of things. So what about our band toast band? I toasties in his own category. It's like, it's he playing, is he not? Is he just one of these? Highline around? Yeah. Yeah. Another big name, not a young name I put on this. Sander Shoffley. You know, I hear like he's hitting it as well. He's hitting it great. He is. He's not playing poor golf. He's a great golfer and playing well. He's won two majors. He hasn't won anything since the open, other than a Bay current. He won a fall Bay current classic in Japan. And that's his win since he won the open. He top 10s at every major. It's incredible. T 97 this year, not necessarily, you know, having it on your club in the last hour, but top 10s playing good golf, hitting it great. Hasn't just just hasn't won a lot since he won the open. And so there was we came out of that year. It's like it's Scotty and Xander and Rory. And like he's in terms of the winning clip, he's not been at Scotty and Rory's level. And he's so good and he's always around the top five, top 10. You would like to see him, you know, pick off a few more wins in the summer. Yeah, I think I think too is like have a chance to win on Sunday, which it hasn't really felt like like where you're like, oh, he's going to win. Yep. Yep. Fleetwood was another one I had. He was very at the Masters, miscut at PTA, losing strokes, putting 50 second in approach, you know, that irons are his bread and butter. Can I can I point something out? Yeah. Do you think you spend too much time in the pro shop? You think he's just a bag tag berry and lost his left just trying to collect, trying to be like one of these pro shop accounts that needs lost. You've got to play the course to not just post. Do you think that here's here's a legitimate question. Is he at a crossroads like Bryson where he's deciding, do I be do I become fashion influencer, golf fashion influencer or professional golfer? And is he struggling with the same thing that Bryson is? It might be. He's got he's facing a decision. I this was about the time of the year he got real hot last year, which is why we're doing a midpoint check in. We came out of the summer being like he's a bona fide superstar. Everybody knows Fleetwood. He's a top five player just hasn't done a ton yet this year. I got one here, please. Tony Fino number seventy seven and the FedEx Cup standings. Listen, I need this guy to to win to do something to just stick it to you guys for all the hate. That's why you had more importantly to vault up into the top 50 or top 30 and then get the Joseph article that breaks down that audits where all of his points came from. Yeah. That then shines a light on sponsors exemptions. So I'm rooting for Tony Fino to make a charge a to stick it to you too. But it's got to be a memorial or travelers, right, as a sponsor. Yes. All right. OK. But then on the backside so that he sticks it to you guys. Then on the backside, we get to yell about sponsors exemption and how it ruins the meritocracy argument of. So I want it both ways there. There you go. I had him in a different category of like Homa Finao. Billy Ho has not been great. The injury stuff has hurt him. He's not been great this year. You know, we're talking about like, oh, it'd be great to get Billy Ho back in a president's cup. He's just not had a had a strong by Billy Ho standards. Peach, do you have any submissions? Speaking of the president's cup, I would point out Keegan Bradley, he's an assistant captain. Yeah, named by Snets, him and Fiora. Sure. You know, I had it news. Big news for Harris English and Colin Morakawa. Congrats to you guys on the president's cup team. I just, you know, he's he was admittedly after his whole depressive episode at the players that that sent up alarm bells for everybody. He did get a little bit better, but the PGA was was not a good week for him, obviously, with the slow play and the yelling and another and another instance of the PGA of America. So I would just point out Keegan Bradley and looking at the FedEx Cup standings, Danny McCarthy is is like 100 right now, which is kind of shocking. He's just yeah, is one no top 10s on the year, which is kind of alarming. Andy, you got to go. You want to hop off? I have some great golf advice I want to throw out there. I'm going to let Pete I could. I just pushed my meeting five minutes. Anyone else you want to throw out here for this? Yeah, I was I was going to say, I hope Kevin Wa plays a place a little bit better to finally get that admiration from his dad that he's been looking for. You know, it's just I wonder if he's distracted all time. Great. Following an all time great in a different sport, trying to get to the top of the mountain in your sport to finally to finally have your dad acknowledge, you know, your accomplishment. Presumably distracted. I assume he grew up a Canadians fan, but they're in the Eastern Conference finals. I've presumably got a lot on his mind these days. Kevin Wa, what trendy kind of pick this week in Texas. I did not have him on my list. Xander and Victor. Bryson Fleetwood. Can't lay. Can't lay. I'm just like done with. I don't know what he's supposed to be at this point. He's fine. He's going to win the BMW. It's fine. Another one I had was DP World Tour grads, the top 10. Christopher Wright doing a lot of lifting, doing a lot of heavy lifting for those 10 guys, like, you know, the Marco Penge hasn't really popped in the way we thought. Jordan Smith is OK. Top 60 borderline. Alex Noran, but everybody else, it's like that in triple digits. Adrian Sadier, R&P, Dan Brown, how tall is not having a good year. FedExCupwise, Nakajima. So Wrighton doing a lot of lifting for the top 10 DP World Tour grads there. That's it. Any other midpoint check in names you want to call on to the carpet? Let's go to one golf advice. It's brought to you by the Friday Pro Shop. That is a we have our Memorial Day sale going on right now. Use the promo code summer 15, summer 15 at discount on prints, head covers, pole hats, everything summer 15. Buy some stuff. If you spend $150 or more, you'll get a free glove. I believe that's an honor of Aaron Rye. So you get a free glove. If you spend $150 or more, just add it to your cart. Add the glove to your cart and it will be marked free at checkout. So if you get over $150, add the glove to your cart, it'll be free at checkout. Use the promo code summer 15. Got a lot of good hats, polos, head covers in there, summer 15. Brought to you by Friday Pro Shop, bringing you SGS golf advice. I got to rip this one for you, Andy. Golf committee chair woes. Good morning. Shotgun start. I'm 37 year old male, married, no kids and absolutely no interest in fighting. Thirty seven years old. No kids, not he is married. No kids is good background on what your times being spent on. I've a member of a club going on seven years and find myself as chair of the club's golf committee, having listened to the Friday podcast about renovating Cal Club interview with Alan Jamison. I can say I neither sought nor campaigned for this possession. A point of emphasis that Mr. Jamison made during the interview. That's the best original that that episode for any anybody in golf court club leadership is an all timer. And I think the advice that he gives is the best. You you're committed. The people that you appoint to the committee should be the people that want nothing to do with any committee. That pod was like seven years ago or something. It was a while ago, right? That was amazing. I you know, you get these pods. Literally, I had droned. It was really cold. I had droned. I was freezing, you know, my head spin in. I get in and I put I get the bike set up, ask a question. Twenty minutes later, you know, Al just cooked for 20 minutes. It was amazing. A legend later. I've asked him my next question. You just. Yeah. Unloading wisdom. God, legend. Shout out. Al is one of the best rounds of golf I've ever had playing with him. He's the man and the people at Cal. He the good at goal. Listen to that pot. So now I was approached by a more senior member who is besties with the headpro of our club on Christmas Eve to serve as the committee chair. And as it was described to me, my role would be a front boss with the real committee work being done by other influential members behind the scene. How about how about that Christmas Eve delivery? He's got something in common with Rory Rory got served a lot. I'm Chris from Patrick Reed under these circumstances. And with these expectations, I reluctantly agreed to take on the role. So Christmas Eve said, you'll just be a front boss. Everybody else doing the work. OK, fast forward now to April. I find myself planning a superintendent surge after the club superintendent hired only in 25 abruptly resigned the week the course was set to officially open for the season this March. I'm also overseeing a bunker renovation long overdue after neglect by the former superintendent. The capo regimes who were to be doing the Yemen's work of the committee are nowhere to be found. And I'm working. I'm working the laboring or so some good analogies here. One of the most recent conflicts to emerge is T times allocated the Ladies Golf Association on Tuesday's mornings. The LGA is a small group only requested two T times. But in an effort to show dedication to the LGA, I directed that four T times be set aside from nine and I 30 every Tuesday in perpetuity. The LGA also requested that no one tee off ahead of them as the LGA is allegedly held up by older male members team off from eight to eight fifty. Took a sip of water there at the wrong time who refused to let the LGA play through. God, this could just be dropped into about 90 percent of golf courses in the country, I feel like. The LGA's reserve tee times are set to go into effect. This is post dated April 21. And wouldn't you know one of the older men's group books, not the 830, not the 840, but the 850 tee time immediately before the LGA group, which I interpret as a clear message. My question is it reasonable to block off all tee times on Tuesday mornings before LGA's reserve times to ensure the LGA groups play without interference? In our most recent committee meeting, the following ultimately were proposed to make to be made to the elderly men's groups, either let the LGA play through or all times from eight to eight fifty on Tuesdays would not be available for reservation. And full disclosure, blocking off the times from eight to eight fifty only affects two to three groups in practice. Any advice is much appreciated. And I look forward to your response. All right. So you can't not have golf before nine. But these senior, this just feels like the most cliche old man, like, this is not that fast. Usually it's like old men complain about women getting in the way. Like it's just it's great. Anybody that's ever worked at a country club knows that everybody complains about everybody's else's pace of play. The ladies complain about the men, the men complain about the ladies. And, you know, as somebody who at one at one point in their in their long golf career would serve as a starter, the starter is the person that gets all this information. And that gets to observe all the all the people that aren't telling the starter the truth. What's real about their own personal, which is amazing because, you know, like everybody's worried about everybody else. And the reality is there's so much time. My advice. You block off eight forty and eight fifty as starters times. I that's where I land. I think they aren't unavailable, but they are at the discretion of the golf shop. And then you go have a conversation with the golf shop and you say these these groups cannot take these times. Old guys are going to go on and book their times. They're going to book the time. That's the only thing they got going on all day. It's the most important part of their day. They're going to book the time. Yeah. But the key is these starters times is like if somebody shows up, like you don't want to say we close the tee because if like somebody shows up and it's like, you know what, I took, you know, something happened. I have Tuesday morning off. My meeting meeting's got canceled. I want to go zip around. It's a six. If like a 40 year old, you know, father of three or, you know, 40 year old mother and father of three come out and be like, can we zip around work to, you know, what I have this stern like nobody can tee off before nine because they're going to be out of the way and and not. Yeah. Starters times. I love it. I think I was I was going to say eight thirty cut off for the old man. And if. Yeah. And if the women catch them, you have to tell them they can't. They have to play through like this. Or they're not allowed to play or they're not. You're done. I love the notion of like they go right to eight fifty the first time they said not to do it and slot it. Oh, there are all these people hold these grudges, too. It's I mean, in my experience, the old men want to be out at like seven and done by nine. No, no, the old men love that like that that nine to ten spot. I think like you've got you've got to find classes. You've got like, yeah, you've got like you've got like parents. They like the early times done by eleven and thirty. Your your life responsibilities still. And you're zipping around. I think old men, they love the nine to eleven window. They get the late lunch. I mean, they're just trying to occupy hours of their day. Yeah, run up, run up the time. Spend the clock. Taking knees, round and ground. Spend the clock. It's Tuesday morning. I can't like I love this guy. He didn't want this job and now he's dealing with this club committee chair. I love it. All right. I got a nice. All right. We'll talk to you, Peach. Andy, enjoy the weekend. Talk to you. Yeah. All right. Happy Memorial Day. Safe travels, everyone. Have a have a nice, nice, nice long weekend and relax. Maybe maybe do some digital detox after, you know, the last few weeks or just lock in the Craig Ranch. Talk to you on Monday.