The Young and The Chrisley (feat. Tracey Bregman)

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See how things work out. Yeah. It, you know, because I've watched you forever because my grandmother watched Young and the Restless and then that's what we started watching. And the show is still airing and it's one of the longest, if not, is it one of the longest? One of the longest. I think days is ahead of us. We last week had our 53rd anniversary of the show. But you actually started on days. I did. You actually see it. Yeah, you actually started on days back in the day. 14. Yeah. That crazy. Well, you know that I'm a huge fan of you. I'm a huge fan of you, not just from, you know, Lauren Fenmore fan, but I'm an even bigger fan of Tracy Bregman because of the heart that you have and the compassion that you show because you have a huge compassion for animals, but you also have a huge compassion for human beings and for your friend group. And so I am grateful to have you today, but I'm also grateful to have you in my life. Same. Same. What some people may not know, and I know this is going to be shocking that this woman can have a grandchild, but you have a grandchild. Yes, I actually have five, but this is my first. So I have four from my stepdaughters, right? And Isabella is my first from one of my sons. And how much do you love? Oh, oh, my God, I'm so obsessed with her. And the fact that I get her one day a week is the greatest gift of my life. And people know on the day that I have her, no one calls me because I don't answer the phone. I love that. And I think it's obviously I knew I was going to love her. I was obsessed with my own kids and I'm not like a big baby person. Right. Like if there's a baby, I'm like, oh, look, there's a baby. I don't feel the need to hold it. I'm good just looking. Right. So but with my own, I was totally obsessed. Love, love, love them. And right. So lucky to have an extraordinary relationship with both of them and their significant others. Right. You know. But this little girl has come into my life and there's a difference. Like I was in my 20s when I had Austin. I was working four and five days a week. I was learning, you know, 10, 20, 40 pages of dialogue a night. I wasn't sleeping at night. I didn't have a night, nanny. I, you know, I brought him to work. There was a lot of chaos, good chaos. Right. And I know I was present, but there's a difference. And even though I'm working like crazy now, right, I just shut the world out for her. I love that. I can I understand that because, you know, since I took my sabbatical, you know, I have learned to really disconnect, to step away. It's a good thing, isn't it? If it doesn't feed my soul, if it doesn't feed my spirit and doesn't serve me, then I don't do it. You know, I had to actually cut myself off from social media. Like I have a time I am not allowed to pick up the phone after six p.m. Right. Whatever time zone I'm in. Well, Judy's got to learn to do that, too. It's hard because we get a dick. Me. Yeah. Oh, my God. Let's compare. We'll compare data and time on the phone. But I you can get lost doing things that don't feed your soul. That's right. We all have spiritual lives that do feed our soul. And that's right. Something else we could be doing. Absolutely. Right. And you and I feel like that that kind of where Julia and I are at this place in our life, that there's a calmness that has surfaced for me that I don't know would have ever happened without going through what we went through. Because it truly has taught me that. I don't have to go to this premiere. I don't have to do this red carpet. I don't have to show up for someone for a show that they're doing and that they want me to be on there or to do something, you know, so that they can get more clicks or whatever. No, I don't do that. I mean, I just canceled going to one this past week. That was a big one. And but their team kept trying to maneuver the days around. And I said, No, that doesn't work. I says, We gave you the days. These are the two days that we have. And if you can't make that work, let's revisit in May or June. Absolutely. There's a lot to be said for peace. Yes. And Nashville's that for me a lot. I exhale here. Right. I drive down my driveway and I go, Oh, I mean, I then see all the things I need to be doing, like painting fences and stuff like that. But I think for people who don't know, you decided to make your move to Nashville. And you still have a place there in L.A. And you work there. She's still at Beverly Hills, nine, oh, two, one, oh, kind of girl. Well, but what what was that? What what kind of was the deciding factor for you to make your move to Nashville? Well, you all went through this with me. But in 2018, I a friend of mine, Harrison, was building an Airbnb here in Franklin in the historic overlay. And I just was watching her and I was had been thinking about getting an Airbnb. And that seemed like a fun idea in a place where I would want to visit. And I had several long term friends that lived in Nashville. So she said, Oh, the property in front of mine just went on the market. Wouldn't it be fun if we own the whole property? I said, Great, I'm on my way. I went and the property that she said was on for sale didn't have any backyard, like literally a postage stamp. There was nothing. Right. And there's a lot of issue in Los Angeles about Airbnb shutting down. So I thought, boy, that would be hard to sell if it wasn't an Airbnb. She said, Don't worry about it. Let's go visit my friend Jane and Leapers fork. So we made the left on Old Hillsboro and I was in love. I felt to me in my chest, which I now know is God. Right. But I went, Where are we? Where is this? And I knew that's that's where it was. And it took a little while to buy the property. I would I closed escrow in September, 2018, I tell you these dates for a reason. November, 2018, I lost my house in the Woolsey fire, a complete. I remember. Yeah. And my kids and I flew here and you opened your home to us for Thanksgiving. Yes, right. I forgot. I didn't forget. I knew that. Yeah. So that was one of the most beautiful gifts you gave my family. You know, not only your friendship over all these years, but that was the most beautiful gesture. And we felt warm and and included. And it was a really, really hard time for us. But you you made it through. I mean, you made it through truly like a warrior. And it took a lot of years to get through it, to get permits, all the things to rebuild. And by the time I went through it, I just didn't. I emotionally was so crushed by the whole thing. I went, I don't think I can do this. And I'm not sure I can live here anymore. And right. Right. And every time I came to Mount to Nashville, everybody was so amazing. They were just so amazing. And I made great friends and I thought, you know, I feel really good here and I still do. So that's why I decided to make the move. I love it. But it has turned out to be a very peaceful decision that you've made and it does feed your peace. It does. I mean, I have several businesses here as well that sometimes don't feed my peace. You're like, oh, God, I rethink that all the time. Huh, that barn could be a great guest house. But but it's been a lot of fun. But now your mother came. Yes. A lot of people don't know this. But how does your mother? Ninety three. Ninety three and looks amazing. I've just had her in LA for three months and we were roomies in my apartment. And that worked out OK. You know, she's so awesome. Right. She's really extraordinary. And she came back and she likes it better here because she feels more autonomous when she wants to go somewhere. She asked one of the drivers at her place to drive her and she can eat when she wants to eat. And she felt very reliant on me, which I understand. But ninety three, she's feisty and strong and fabulous. I love that. I love that. I love that. So now what you have, you have a lot. You're one of the busiest people in television right now because you're working all the time. What projects do you have coming up? Thank thank goodness outside of Young and the Restless. So by happenstance, Christine Avanti Fisher, who I did God's Table Hollywood with, our podcast that's been on for the last year. I she's a celebrity chef, nutritionist. And so she had me come cook with her one day and I don't know what happened, but within the first hour we had like two hundred and seventy five thousand people had viewed our recipe. I said, we made great. We made whipped cream. I mean, like we didn't even do anything. And we know I know we made these vegan things that I could never remember the name of. So I was a little silly in the kitchen because it's it used to be a strong point for me. You know, I had a book called Grandma's Cooking Secrets that was given to me when I was sixteen and I wrote every recipe in there. I ever did. Who was there? The date I made it. Right. I went to UCLA Extension for Italian cooking. I mean, I used to cook for like sixty people on Christmas Day. So I was more of an event cooker. I'm I just get an F in dinner. I don't know what it is about dinner. I just can't do it. I mean, I can, but it's just not my favorite thing to do. Right. Right. So I did a couple more of the cooking segments with her and people were just finding it funny and entertaining and quick recipes. Right. And my boyfriend says to me, you know, I find it ironic that you're doing these cooking segments and you don't. I went, really, just watch me do something with this then. And that's why I called it. We called it the lazy cook and the healthy chef because I couldn't be lazier. And I watched Martha Stewart for entertainment purposes only. 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Next pledges a 12 month fixed time trucker tariff with variable rates lower than off chance price cap for standard variable tariffs. Direct debit required, T's and C's apply. But now do you only do vegan? No. OK, so that's interesting. That's a big thing, because my friend here, our friend, you've been vegan for a long time. I'm going to have to say was because I called myself vegan ish. Right. And although I'm almost all plant based, my ish is a little fish. So I can't really call myself that anymore. Right. And so we're starting to cook some fish. And we always say when we do, you know, our tofu recipes, we always say you can put chicken. Right. Whatever. Gotcha. Me. OK. Wherever you want. I love that. So it's really funny. I don't know what any of the kitchen gadgets are. I don't know what happened. So yeah, we just got picked up. I love that. We're going to start shooting our first season probably in the next month. OK. And I love that. It's just fun. It's just silly. You know, here's what I love about our business today. We don't have to sit and wait on our couch anymore to be picked or chosen. You get an idea, put your iPhone up and you can do it. Yeah, that's right. For sure. That's right. Yeah, that's amazing. Because that's what we're doing. Yeah, well, you know, Judy's got her cooking show that she starts working on Nick in June. That's amazing. Yeah, June. And it's. I feel so different about it today that I would have three years ago because now she gets to have pretty much all the control. You know, she's the one that's kind of controlling what that process is, what meals that she's going to be preparing, you know, where she learned it from, you know, whatever, how she's perfected. And and I was shocked that she got that kind of control, you know, because everyone, you may not know that television changes every hour. Yeah. And the networks always want to have that final say they want to have that control completely and with her cooking show, she's she's driving it. Well, that's the same with us because I and I we had talked earlier about the podcast and what I learned from it. And it was a masterclass in how to do this. Right. So we're so used to doing all the pre and post production. We have an editor. Right. In fact, when we met with a production company that picked us up, they said, oh, so who's your crew? Right. Like me. You're looking at them. We do everything. That's amazing. And so I but I've always said to my kids, if you do anything, you better do every single job that goes all the way to the top. What about that? Because it's so true. Yeah. So let me tell you something. I would make the kids when the crew was there and they were loading trucks, I would say, get that stuff and pick it up and take it over there. And, you know, we never have because like I said, you've been in television way longer than we have. But when I work, when we were shooting, Christine, I was best are growing up Chris Lee, you know, production, they're normally in one area and the talent is in another area and they don't mingle. You know, that way. We never did that from the first meal that we that we had on Christy knows best. I remember Raj is setting up downstairs at our house in Georgia. And I said, no, where are we eating? And she goes, you're eating up here. She says, crew eats downstairs. And I said, no, we don't do that. Right. I said, I have children here. And I says, and my children are not going to look at these individuals that are here working with us as someone that's working for them. 100 percent. And I said, we work together. But that's a testament to you. You know, my dad was in music, but later in his life, directed feature films and and nighttime and was a producer of nighttime television. And I used to spend all my time on the set with him in the booth or next to him holding his script. And I have a very strong memory of being maybe nine years old and he was shooting in York and England because I grew up in London. And I would sit with a cinematographer, Gil. And I would watch him as he would put pantyhose over the the lens and show me how he was setting up the shot and lighting. And Gil went on to be the cinematographer for Star Wars and and all of those movies. It's amazing. So I feel like I got such an incredible education because I was always with the crew. Right. You were literally on the job training. 100 percent. I mean, my father raised me to produce, right, which is probably why I walk on a set. And I'm always like, why is that barn door open? Why is that? You know, right? I love that. So what do you what do you attribute your longevity to? What is if you had to pick one thing? I'm like wondering if they noticed I'm still there. Everyone knows you're still in the room. I I think with soap operas, what's so great is a they're multi-generational. Yes. So there isn't one person who doesn't come up to me and say, oh, my gosh, I see you and I see my mom or I see my grandma that we used to watch you. We all grew up together. Right. We've had this opportunity. Nighttime shows, movies, it's more of an event. Oh, it's Thursday at 10. It's not slanting or showing my age, but, you know, whatever show you like or you go to the movies. But daytime, we come into your life while you're living it. Right. So we are truly a part of your life. Right. It's kind of reality before reality was reality. You know, it was kind of one of those things because people get invested and they feel like they know you and they, you know, they have they've watched you grow up and your whole life on TV. And so I think there's a very much a relatability to sure what we did like a reality because they're like, oh, I know you. Right. You're in the house every day. And they really know you because they saw you with your family. You know, the raw moments. That's right. That's right. So. You are. You've gone through so many phases of Young and the Restless. And so many hair changes. And you still look the same. What a blessing. But then you bounced over to Bold and the Beautiful for a minute for about four years. Yeah. And do you still do that? Or do you? You know, I haven't done that in a couple of years. And they used to shoot across the hall from us and our studio TV City, which used to have the CBS sign on it now that came down for the first time in all those years. And the front part of the parking lot is now a Waymo. Do you have Waymo? Yes. Yeah, Waymo Park. Cars that where they drive themselves. Yeah, the electric. I'm not riding in that. Well, you know, at first I was like, I'm not so sure about that. And then, you know, Uber Black, which is very expensive. And a Waymo is like a tenth of the price of Uber Black. And you don't have to talk to anybody. You know, here's the thing. I was just in Dallas because I just did CPAC on Friday. And now, which I now know how to do Uber. Julie put it on my phone and she taught me how to do it. Oh, it's freeing, isn't it? Yes. And I was in DC when I first started it, when I first used it. And I said and I was so Tracy, I was in such panic mode because I've never had to do any of that. And you said, you can do this, Todd. And do you remember what I text you when I was? Yes, he's like, one more thing I've learned to do. I said, so good. You believe that I know how to do it. Oh, I love Uber, by the way. No disrespect to Uber. Right. But in Dallas this week, I noticed on my app when I was because I ended up getting this driver and I kept him the whole week that I was there. You did? Yeah. I don't even know how to do that. But teach me. And the it says on the thing now, do you prefer a conversation? Oh, yeah, it does. Yeah, it does. It's on there. It's been on there. Yeah. And I don't. And I want to converse. I mean, you know, I do to not talk about stupid shit. If you're talking about stupid shit, I'm not talking to you. But do you know how many times I've gotten a phone call and like, I have to call you back. I'm hearing the life story. Right. Or I'm helping the Uber driver through a custody battle. I had I had a great driver in D.C. who talked about he had a stroke and that how God came to him when he was in the hospital. Interesting. Completely debilitated. And they had already said that he was going to have to go to a nursing home that he would never recover. And he said that God came to him during his recovery and told him, he said, you will walk again. Wow. Wow. And he went through rehab and was doing is doing great. So I know about him. That's my driver now in D.C. And my brother, my brother, my son, Chase said, yeah, there he goes, who are you doing this Uber thing? 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So my mother discovered Lyft Silver specifically for seniors. Right. Oh, every time she went to the doctor and I was working, she would take Lyft senior and she'd say, oh, my driver was so fabulous. I and she'll tell me all the stories about them. Oh, I love that. She had this whole conversation the whole time. It was really funny. Oh, gosh, I love that. I know in when I was in LA the last time, you can do women request women drivers to that if you only want a woman to drive you. And I love it. I always did. I like that. That's somebody that's out here like hustling, you know, like I like that. I like that because, you know, when you're filming, you know, the network candles all that for you. And I used to. I don't know from that. I used to it used to be one of my pet peeves is that they would send a female driver and you know what I would say. Right. Why are they sending this female driver to try to lift all this heavy luggage and to get in there? Because then now I feel obligated to go back there and do that, which I've always done. Right. But then in our contract, I would say we could only have male drivers because women cannot lift. I mean, it's like boarding the Titanic with us. I mean, literally, we have had the women the chance. So that's right. Not with a bunch of luggage, but if I'm just going around town. Definitely. What a woman to do. You know, every time I get Uber in Nashville, I always get a woman. Hmm. Just naturally because they're the ones working. That is. Yeah, there you go. There you go. Say it. That's right. So now, you know, I don't know if you know this, but you're a huge hit and your show is a huge hit. Young and the Restless at Summer Camp. I have heard. Yes. You have a huge audience. Yes. My son has had Landon has had many experiences where he's spoken to rappers who maybe have had an experience at Summer Camp. Right. And they he got into a conversation with this fabulous artist who would have the same experience and they somehow he said, oh, why do you live in LA? Or when they got around to what I do. Right. And he was like, your mother's Lauren Fenmore. Oh, my God. We all watch. You know, I just love those stories. Oh, yeah. It was a huge deal. I mean, I would I would walk by the TV room and you'd see all these men in there. I love it. You know, with their earbuds in and they're watching you and I would just laugh and go on about my business. But one of them, my buddy, the I, he every day, he had a little television out in the tool room where he worked because that was his job. And so he built him a little case around it and, you know, where it was hidden. And so every day he would run to Chow, eat his food and go back because he had to watch Young and the Restless. And I would think to myself, there's no way that this guy is literally watching the soap opera. And so we started talking and I never mentioned your name until I'd been there like eight or nine months. And he was talking about a scene or something had happened that day. And I said, who are you talking about? And he said, Lauren Fenmore. He said, well, you know, whatever name is on Young and the Restless. Tracy. I said, Tracy Braggman. And he said, yeah, that's her. And I said, I'm friends with her. And he said, no, you're not. And I said, I am friends with her. They and he goes, Todd, don't start messing with me. This is a very traumatic time that experience that I'm going through right now. So don't mess with me on that because I've been in love with her my whole life. And so I had a phone at summer camp. You know, you're not supposed to know that. Yes, you're not supposed to have been contacting. But, you know, I paid better than the BOP did. So I paid the guards to keep mine hidden. But I pulled it out one night. I went to my Instagram and I showed him a picture of me and you. And from that point on, I was his best friend. If I needed something fixed, he came down there and fixed it. If I needed something that I didn't have, he found a way to make sure I had it. I love it. And so I told him that I was going to be doing this podcast. And he said, I said, I'm going to have her to say hello to you and to let her know that she that you possibly are her future fiance. Hello, Vi. Thank you for all the messages coming through the Christmas. But he is such a huge fan, but not just him. It is really crazy. And you know, I talked about this when we got home. I said, it is insane at the following that Young and the Restless still has after all these years. And a lot of athletes and musicians as well. Because if you think about it, they're up all night and they're just getting up around 11 30. Yeah. But back in the day when I started in the 80s, people were putting all their college scheduling the college classes around all the soap operas. Yes. You know, crazy. I know. I mean, when people would call me at 2 p.m. I literally would answer the landline. Yes. Who dares to call me during General Hospital? Well, you know, Savannah just did a kind of like a me to her for her for herself. And she went to Amsterdam to London. That's right. Yeah. Paris, Switzerland, Italy. Wow. How long was she gone? Yeah, like three weeks. Three weeks. Wow. And I remember you telling me. Yeah. She didn't say that. And so she called one day and she said, dad, can I FaceTime you? And I said, yes. So she FaceTimes me and she says, what is this? You remember the story? Yeah. She said, what is this? It was a landline. What is this? And you just said landlines. So that triggered that thought. Right. And I said, what? She said, what is this? How do I use this? There's a cord. And I looked at her and I said, still charging. I said, Savannah, please don't be this dumb. But think about it. She's never had one. No, right. And so I said, and this was a rotary. Oh, that's what made it. And that's what she couldn't figure out. And I said, put your finger in zero. She was trying to call room service to get ice. And I said, put your finger in zero. And she did. She said, yes, could I get I need the bottle coax in my fridge and I need some ice please. Oh, my God, this is the cutest thing. I'm going to get one of these from my home. It was like nostalgic for her, you know, and I'm like, we really are old. It's like cursive. Yeah. So it's going to be our secret language. Yes, that's right. None of the kids can read it. No, they don't teach it. They don't teach them when you remember when we were going to school, you had to pass that. That was something that you had to get a grade on. Yeah. But don't they learn how to do a signature then? Or is it they don't? 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No love letters. Now I just get dick pics and stuff like that on Instagram. So saying. No, I'm kidding. Do you did you see what happened to me yesterday with the Chelsea handler? I was laying in bed last night and I said it because I really don't go on people's social media. I just scroll to see what pops up. Right. And she told me that's what happened. That's what I was saying. You said what happened with Tracy? You said, I don't know yet. So she was going on saying, I'm going to start helping people find good men. You know, here is a good start with her sale. I think she has a boyfriend who, you know, who want relationships here. I'm going to start this new dating app. It was all in fun. Right. So she puts up pictures of these guys and one of them is in a suit with a bride and I'm like, oh, he's not cute. He's the father of the bride. That's why the next thing he writes, never had children, never been married. I'm like, oh, who's that? Right. The next slide is of a guy with a girl in a bikini. But there's an emoji on her face that someone who was, I guess, did the deep dive in his bio. That was his daughter. I'm like, are you kidding me? Guys, let me tell you right now. No woman wants to see you with another woman. Really, you're going to put your daughter up in a bikini in your dating app. That's we don't want to see you with a fish. And I was talking about one of my friends who I'll tell you later because who it is, it was really funny. She was sent a picture from a guy who was sitting in the bathroom. And unfortunately for him, there was a mirror behind him. So we knew where he was sitting. Let's just say. Oh, but no bathroom selfies. No, no. So even know why someone would think that that's even. Attractive or appropriate. It's so funny to me. What and then a lot of the women started sending me pictures of what these guys pictures are on their dating app. I was so horrified that I went on and said, all right, guys, here's send me your pictures. I will help you. I mean, I'm about to do this show that I was telling you that I'm hosting about what men really think. So it kind of fits into what happened online. But the amount of people who said you are right on one woman called me a Karen. I was like, and she's a Karen for calling you a Karen. Right. I was like, I'm not saying you're terrible people. I'm saying if you want to do a dating app and if you want any kind of traction, let me help you. Right. Right. Right. Have a decent photo without a child in it or another woman. Yes, where you are dressed appropriately. And here's a big tip. A dog or a cat preferably adopted in your picture. That'll be a big draw. Right. You know, so I was just with dogs. It's it's just I mean, I don't know. I mean, we talk about it. We have talked about it a lot. And because it's it's crazy to me. Todd was out in Dallas and he said when he came back, but like everywhere he went, there were men his age and older, but they were with these women. That was Savannah's age. That was Savannah's age. And I went to this little French restaurant. With a group of a group of my guys that I'm doing business with out there. And so there's like five of us sitting there. And I looked up at the one guy and I said, did you bring me to God's waiting room? And it was in the food was great. But these older men kept coming in and like older than me. And like, I'll be 58 next month or next week. And they had these young girls on their arm. And I'm looking around and I said, what is going on? He's, oh, don't worry, give it 45 minutes. It's going to it's going to it'll get really pretty in here about 45 minutes. And sure enough, about 45 minutes, the place was covered with beautiful with beautiful girls. But they were all with me and my age or older. And I said, what is going on with all of this? And they're like the one guy said, listen, it's Dallas. You know, I think it's in Dallas. You have a starter wife. He says, you have an intermediate. And he says, then you have a closer. You've got the closer. So I was having dinner. This is years ago. I've been with my boyfriend for three years now. Who's by the way, name is Tide. Yes. In homage. And it was with my best guy friend, Dr. Bill Dorfin, who I'm doing this show with. And we were having dinner with two of the top plastic surgeons in Los Angeles. And we're sitting at dinner and one of them's with his beautiful 27 year old wife. He's older than you. And the other one's even older and was marrying his 30 year old girlfriend, who, by the way, they were lovely, lovely, lovely, lovely women. And I'm sure this is true love soulmates the whole thing. And they looked at me and said, I can't believe you're single. And I said, this table is why I'm single. Exactly. This table is so true. You know, I don't want to be with someone that is the same age as my child. Yeah, that would be really weird, because, you know, I've dated younger as well. Right. And it was more fun. I mean, for me, maybe it's my ego. I I I would rather be with somebody age appropriate. That when I make a joke, they actually know what I'm talking about. You listen to the same music. Right. Are you you remember certain movies and stuff like that? And I just feel like that for me. But you and I have been together for 30 years. She knows what I she knows what I'm going to eat. She knows where I'm going to go. She knows what I'm going to wear. She knows everything about me. And I love that that comfort level that comes from that. Yeah. And I just can't imagine be driving down Pacific Coast Highway listening to the Eagles and then go, what is that? Right. I would be to get out. Well, like my ex-husband was 11 years older and my boyfriend's nine years older. But I mean, I think that is that's OK. Our kids are the same ages. You know, and it's great that he's been married. I was married that we have children and now the kids know each other. And actually, he's going to be a grandpa any minute with a little girl as well. They're going to. So our grandchildren, our granddaughters are going to be a year apart. Oh, I love that. I'm very excited for him. Very excited. But do you not? I mean, when you because you just touched on it, you know, how big a how big of a part of that is a vanity issue? Well, it's true because I dated somebody eight years younger than me. And it was difficult in a way because he was part of this group that would paddleboard and jet surf. And I don't do that. I don't love to be in an ocean. I'll be honest. I don't like to be in the water because I'm afraid of what's in it. 100 percent. I'm good in a jacuzzi for about five minutes. That's my favorite body of water. I love to look at the ocean. Me too. I just don't feel the need to be in it. Right. So all the girls were around his age and like the most beautiful bodies. And I honestly don't understand the, you know, the dental floss of the tush. I don't care how beautiful your body is. I don't want to see a tush. I don't want to see your tush. Just wear a regular bathing suit. They're revealing enough. I feel exactly. Yes. Exactly. But that's just me. Maybe I'm all fashioned. Yeah. Anyway, that was kind of a hard thing. I felt like, oh, God, I can't compete on an athletic level. And, you know, they're his age. Probably, you know, they could have babies with him. And it just it kind of was hard for me. So maybe it was a vanity thing. I also think that women get fed up with men. And a lot of women that are older, that are single, or it's not, oh, poor thing. They're like, no, I am so good. And I tell my kids all the time, look, at the end of the day, if all this doesn't work out, it could just be the Chihuahua and me for the win. And she cuddles. She is the best spooner of all time. She's great company. Right. Right. But you know, you do it. And as as we as we age. And I speak from from my perspective as a man. I'm not I like my company. I like being, you know, by myself, you know, which I never really did. I always wanted I always wanted you to be right there with me. And I still do. But I mean, like, I'm good, you know, being home by myself. If she's going out for the day or she's going shopping or whatever. No, I'm good. I'll stay here. My boyfriend and I are very independent. And I really love that. I do, too. And we are very much so. Like, we know what, you know, we know we're coming home to each other. But like, I don't have to. I don't have to be around you 24 seven. That's right. I have things that I need to do and that I want to do. I don't know. I don't need you to. I don't need to talk to you 10 times a day, either. You know, we probably talk a lot. But you have a family together. That's completely different. But like, you know, I don't feel the need to go check in with her that I'm going to go have lunch with someone or she's going to go have lunch with someone or, you know, I'm going to go do this and I'm going to go by that. I'm not checking in. I am 58 years old. I don't have a boss. I know how to handle myself and I know what I'm going to do. But, you know, one of the favorite things about my marriage that I loved when I was married is the unpacking of the day at the end of the day. Right. You know, when you get to see each other and talk about everything that happened and put all the puzzle pieces on the table and, you know, figure them all out together. I love that part. Yeah. And, you know, we, Julie and I, we talk about everything. There's nothing that we don't talk about. And and that's a great that's a great thing to have in your life. That's a beautiful thing. That's a great thing to have in your life. And and the fact that you guys still like each other. Yes. Yeah. Well, he didn't like me this morning because the showers clogged and it was my fault that the showers clogged because he said my hair comes out like I'm like, Todd, how is it my fault? Is it my fault? Does anybody want their hair to come out? No, they don't. Todd, you need to learn how to unclog the shower. I do. It's called Busy Bee. And they're there now. But I had just had them there two months ago. OK, well, I've been gone for a month, so it wasn't me. I was already doing that. Oh, my gosh. My fault. Then the we were just talking about the other day because, you know, we're getting ready to start construction on a new house. And I was saying to just we're, you know, all the kids, you know, you're like, we're going to have this great one level, beautiful home with a pole in the center and, you know, whatever. And then I was talking to the architect and I'm like, I don't know. I don't know because I've got so many kids and I says and I need to have a place for them to come home to. And I'm kind of feeling like that this one level thing, there's not enough distance between the rooms for you to have privacy. And so I just don't know if I'm going to be able to do that. Maybe we'll just have all of our stuff on the first floor and then we'll go ahead and have a second floor, which is such an East Coast thing to have the primary bedroom on the first floor, which I've now come to love. Maybe you have one wing that's your wing. And then the other side is all the rest of the bedrooms. Right. Well, so but we were talking and I said to Julie, I said, you know what, I'm not going to worry about this. We're going to build this house for us. Well, they'll have a room. It may not be exactly what they want, you know, whatever, but they'll have a room. And so Julie was talking to me about Grayson and she said, and I said, and this will be, you know, this will be she said, well, this will be Chloe's room. And I said, I think I'm going to make that Grayson dream. I said, because it has its own separate living room and whatever. And because now she's starting, she's Grayson's not coming back home. She says he's in college when he gets ready to when he finishes college. I feel like Grayson's going to want to be on his own. I told him this and he lost his mind. He said, what is wrong with her? What is wrong with her? I have to have a room. I have to have a place to come home to. I picked up that phone, not called her and I said, it's back to square one. So now I'm doing them all. Now I'm doing them all sweet. So when they'll have their own space, OK, I just did. I can't get him to come home from college. So surely when he graduates, he's not going to want to come home. And then this morning he was I was staying there shaving. I had it on speakerphone because they call him. He calls me every morning and I'm. Julie was sitting there doing her makeup and he had said to me goes. Dad, I know he says, hey, pal. He sent me a message yesterday. He said, hey, pal. He said, I will be. I think you should let the lady that runs the house know that I will be that I will be arriving for Easter break for Easter holiday and for your birthday. Make sure that she stocks the house in accordance to what I like. And so I caught. So I told us that Grayson is coming home. You make sure he has everything that he wants. And so then he says to me, he goes, hey, pal. For my Easter basket. Now he's not going to be 20 and he said from my Easter basket, he said a Rolex would be great. I thought like Airpods. Yeah, Rolex. Of course, your son. I give them one at 21. That's when I gave them their first Rolex. And so he's like, but dad, I mean, I'm the baby. You can speed it up a year. And I said, no, we're sticking to the 20. 20. That is so cute. So I mean, but he is he's such a sweet soul. But all your kids are that we have been blessed. They're very sweet. They're very sweet. So now tell me. You're going you're going to shoot your new show in LA, right? Which I need help with the name. Right. Because right now it's about I'm hosting a show about what men really think. Right. So it'll be a lot of my reaction. I'm going to try not to, you know, I said there's not enough Botox to put in my face for me not to react to what men really think. To be honest. What is it that you think men really think? That's a very interesting question. It's I think how they think. I really believe that I always say, God, why did you make us so different? Yeah. Right. Because we really do think so differently. But if you think about it, we're kind of the yin and the yang. We do fit together. There's your thoughts and our thoughts. And right. But I think certain men need just some help. And I'm and I'm here to try and help you. I saw an interesting statement the other day. This guy, he's a he's a psychologist. And he was talking about the difference between men and women as various as they are. And he said that men. When they have a task at hand will focus uberly focused on that one task because men need that task. Yeah. And said that women, that men are not great at multitasking, but that women are greater at multitasking because you're dealing with children. You're putting a meal on the table. You're doing laundry. You're a lot of people are working and still having to do that. That's not what it was. And so you score much higher in the multitasking level than men did. But men score higher and being able to focus more intent and finish something. And finish it. Yes. I mean, I'm in constant changing hat mode. I always say that my ADD is my superpower. Right. Because I can change at a drop of a hat, basically. And focus on that, then focus on that, then focus on that. But if you ask me to organize a room, if you have any kind of OCD, you cannot watch me. I will finish up strong, but I'm the kind that, OK, I put that over there. Oh, now that needs organizing. Then I'll organize that. Then I'll go back to where I was and then I'll make an appointment for the dentist. You know, that's me. Yeah, that's me. That's me. We're the same. We're the same. I told her this morning. My Louis Vuitton Duffel was sitting there in the floor and it had my travel blanket in it and my pillow for the plane. And I had told her the other day, I said, Joe, I said that blanket stuff needs to be washed before the bags put back up. OK. And I walked by it for two days and it was sitting there. So I walked by this morning and I said, I can wash that blanket and that pillow in that travel bag. I know I'm going to do it. I said, but you say that as if you're offended that I have reminded you for the third time that it's still in that bag. So she turns right around with the attitude, goes and unzips it, takes the blanket out, takes the blanket, the pillow out, goes and puts them in the wash. And she comes back, the bathroom. She goes, your things are in the washing machine. So Todd. Yes. The second time you walked by it, why didn't you just do it? Well, because I had actually just folded two loads of laundry and was bringing them into the bathroom to put them away. And then you could have gone and put your dad up. But then I feel like that that eliminates her having the ability to do something for me. I bet you there's a list of things that we could figure out of what you could do for you that might be mutually beneficial. I will say Todd will do laundry and he does not really mind doing laundry. But that's what he's going to do. And it's exactly what she said. He is Uber, like solely focused on that. And that's all. And then he's like, how do I keep this laundry room like this? And yours like I said, well, you know, I've dropped off Chloe to school. I picked her back up. I've made these appointments. I've got went to the grocery store. I've got dinner going in addition to laundry. All of that you have done laundry and I am appreciative of it. But you've done that one task. So yeah, so exactly. You're you're right on the money, Tracy. You're right on the money with it. But you see, you did that one task and you did it. Well, exactly. And say once I once. You've done everything else. That is pretty much the truth. That is pretty much the truth. Well, I you know that we love you dearly and are always so proud to call you our friend. You know, I get so many questions, Tracy, about from people saying, you know, how many of your celebrity friends stuck around after everything you guys went through? And we didn't really lose any. I mean, the people because you know how tight our circle is. I mean, you of all people know how tight this circle is. We're still friends with all the same people. But literally, you were one of the first. Jay was first. And then you were second messaging. I wanted to give you a minute to let you get settled. I'm here. If you need something, let me know. Love you, whatever. And that's a beautiful thing. Yeah, that is a beautiful thing to be able to have those kind of relationships. I think not just from not from just us being away, but like a friendship where, you know, you can go and not speak. And, you know, we keep up with each other through social media, whatever. But then when we do, you just feel like not a moment's past. Right. And I think that's the true tale of a friendship, you know, to be able to to do that. Like we said, at that lunch, like no time had passed. Yes. But I really want to thank your son, Chase, for we we stayed in contact the whole time. And he really helped me through the whole thing. You know, I wanted to contact you. He said not to do it through him. And I know he gave you a message. Yes, yes, he did. Well, the reason because, you know, so many of our friends, you know, we're a little bit bitter at a certain point because they wanted to send me stuff or they wanted to write me or whatever. And I said, no. And the reason for that is because the staff there were such window-lickers. I mean, they literally were so ignorant that they wanted to they wanted to see my mail. They wanted to see who was writing. That's what he had said. And there was just no policy. Yeah. And I was not giving them that. And it wasn't it wasn't fair to our friends, either. I feel like, you know, because it's just it was hard. It was hard not being able to talk to you as hard not to be able to write to you. And right, you know, all those things. But, you know, we survived it. We're stronger and better for it. 100 percent. And this, you know, we came home to the same people that we left, minus Nick. And that that was so that was that was a hard thing. That was the hard. I say that, you know, you know, I've had like I've had some things in my life that have been difficult. But for the most part, I've had a very beautiful life. When I look back over my life, I've had moments at I try to break my down into generational. You're like, OK, are you are a decade? You know, what was great in this decade and what was really bad in this decade? Right. And my good outweighs the bad. But my real bad was Julie being diagnosed with breast cancer in 2012 and then losing my dad months later. That was 2012. You know, and then we found out that our CFO had embezzled six million dollars from us. So 2012 was a bad year. But I look back now and I think that was God's prep for what he knew we were going to have to go through. Wow. But I will tell you that as hard as Julius was, and that was my heart, losing my dad was was very traumatic. But my dad lived a long life. So I remember saying he was diagnosed with liver cancer, Julia was diagnosed with breast cancer. And for so long after that, I really fought with myself because I had prayed a prayer, got down on my knees in my office and I said, God, if you have to take one of them, don't take Julie. And then daddy died like three months later. And I remember thinking, did I pray for my daddy to be taken? Oh, wow. Yeah. By the way, that I had said that prayer. Losing Nick. Was almost like losing one of your own children. Well, he was so close to both of you. Right. And I love him to this day. And, you know, Savannah and I will send because your memories will pop up on your phone. And every week there is a memory that pops up that he's in it on my phone. And I'll just look at his smile and I'll send it over to her and she'll go, oh, my God, I miss him. And so, you know, that was that was the hardest thing that we had to go through during the time we were gone because, you know, I emailed with him every day. Oh, you do. Every day. And I did. Savannah had gotten on the plane to come and see me that Saturday. And when she got off the pilot told her. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. She she and I texted through that time because she knew that I knew him. Yeah. And it's been time. And it so that was that was that was the that was the hard. Yeah, that was the hard. But we survived it. And, you know, I think about him every day and I continue to talk about him because he's never going to he's going to always be a part of my life. But but we've been blessed, you know, we have we've come home. You know, the Bible tells you that he will restore you and he will redeem you. And he has done that. Yes. And so I'm grateful for that. And I'm grateful that you're here today. Yes, I love you, dear. So dear before we go. Yes. Young and the restless. We know we can always find you on Young and the Restless. Young and the rest. You're going to have your cooking show. Yeah, the lazy cook and the healthy chef is on YouTube. OK. It's on there right now. But the new season will be coming. Perfect. And also on Instagram. And then you also have your new show, the new show that help. We need a title right now. It's for men for for women about what men think. But we need a snappier title. Yes, they send me ideas. We are so excited for everything you're working on. Thank you so much. We love you. Thank you. Love you guys so much. Until next week. Good luck and God bless. This episode of Chris the Confessions 2.0 is brought to you by Booking.com. 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