May The Dumbest Faithful Win: Monday, January 12th, 2026

Good morning, girlies. It's the toast. It's Jackson Claude and we're your hosts. It's your favorite show. The Fast Five Things You Need to Know. We'll start your day off swirly. It's the toast. They sound amazing. Welcome back to the toast and happy Monday. Hope everybody's having a part delicious definition kicking off to their week. Hey, Jax, how you doing? Very good. Second week of the new year sitting in Koji's Corner. Welcome to Koji's Corner. I think everyone always says, like, you guys should do another podcast, like Clive and Recap Podcast. Koji's Corner is what the world needs and I think it would be nominated for a Golden Globe, just saying. And that's how Koji sees it. Yes, I did watch the Golden Globes. I watched, it's actually amazing what I was able to accomplish this weekend just as like a regular girl. I spent so much time with my family. I spent time outside. I watched everything on planet Earth. It's amazing like what I was personally able to accomplish. Like in Wake Windows, in Nap Windows, I should really receive some sort of motherhood and business owner award for all the TV that you watched. Yes. People we meet on vacation, the movie, I watched all three episodes of Traders. I watched the Golden Globes. I would say I made it about 60%. I also watched Shaz of Sunset. I'm refusing to call it the Valley Persian style because that's a bad name and the show already had a bad name. It's called the Shaz of Sunset. One of the best names of any show ever made. I watched so much. I am so prepared to be seated here with you today. I watched half of Shaz of Sunset Persian style in the Valley doing Persia in the Valley. Yeah. Persian Valley style. I liked it in general, but it was really crazy to watch it like this weekend. Like just very... A lot. Yes, that's true. They're always talking about the geopolitical climate of Iran. The show just starts saying like a lot of Persians and Iranians moved to L.A. During the Revolution. And it's like they're revolutionizing right now. I actually think that they will end up covering it next season because one thing about the Shaz, they're not going to shy away from uncomfortable conversations about geopolitical issues, about religion. They went... Well, they tried to. They couldn't go to Iran, but they went to Israel actually and then walked up to the border and they went to Turkey too. Maybe they'll go. If Iran becomes free, they will go to Iran. Oh my God. Brand trip. Brand trip. But I feel like the old Shaz very much went there all the time, every day, every episode. I've only watched half of this first season, but I feel like times have changed and they're not going to do that as much. Well, I do feel like the show was ahead of its time. The original show Shaz of Sunset. Yes, I don't see them going super deep, but one thing about Reza, he's going to do what he wants. He's kind of an amazing reality star in the sense like he actually doesn't give a fuck. Like he will talk about things that he wants to talk about. The show did have that valley... Edit? Like Spice, which I didn't like. I don't know, just like boring valley. Do you know what I mean? That's like the point. I know, but the thing about the Shaz is like they're not like anyone else. So trying to put them in a show like Shaz, I'm too close to it. Obviously, like I was obsessed with the original show and this new show was good. I'm glad we have Mercedes, like the OGs, but I don't know. They're trying to give it like the La La Kent edit. I don't know. It's just not working. Yeah, well, I've only seen... I'm just getting acquainted. Oh, and to be clear, I saw one episode. Right. I'm still meeting everyone. So I'm not like calling it or anything, but I enjoyed what I did watch. Me too. And I watched Traders all three episodes. Same. It was a grind, but I'm glad that I did because now I'm like, I care. I have so many thoughts about the show and the format and the season in particular, but I know I'm going to like frustrate people with what I have to say about the format. Well, we're going to do... Our fifth and final story is an official Traders recap. So in case you're not caught up, we're going to save it all for that. Yeah. Now, can I tell you how much people we meet on vacation? Did you read that book? I did. I didn't like the book, but I've heard that the movie is very good. So people feel one of two ways. I think if you're like really like, it's your favorite book ever, then you hate the movie just because you're too close to it. And I can't... Honestly, I can't take your opinion seriously because I'm judging the movie as a movie. I read the book years ago. Do I remember all the nuances? No. I just remember that they take a trip every year and they're obviously in love, but they pretend like they're not. The movie was so... Which is stupid. Of course. I hate when people... The Y fight love. Not only that, at your big age, you're not able to identify a feeling. You obviously like him. And you have a... You're a straight woman. You have a straight male best friend who you love, you travel with, you do everything with. You're married, get married. Every time your romantic partner or his romantic partner comes on a trip, it ends in disaster. Because everyone can sense the feelings between the two of you. Both of your partners hate the other person because you're obviously in love. I hate that shit. And you're wasting other people's time. And you're literally 30 at this point. You do have to suspend disbelief. You have to be a smart person to just read the book and enjoy it. I thought the book was extremely mid. I remember being like, oh, this is a book everyone's talking about. It's fine. And then it launched Emily Henry. Emily Henry is a colleague. Every time she has a book, it's like, who's going to get the rights? And it's a bit bestseller. And I happen to believe she's an industry plant. She writes very, very mid, low... But people like mid. Yes. People like mid, low IQ. Yeah. Low IQ individuals. No, no, no. And I read mid, low IQ books sometimes because it's comforting to just read something where I don't have to... My brain doesn't have to work. Yeah. But this book sort of launched... I don't want any that all sounded very insulting, but I didn't mean any of it as an insult to anyone. I wasn't... As a low IQ individual, I was not an insult. We're like the authors who write for them... They know what they're doing. So there's a cover for every pot. There's an audience for every writer. I'm just saying, not every book needs to be DaVinci code. Barbara Kingsolver. Not every book can be Deep Copperhead. Well, that's true. So having said all of that, I was just watching this movie. Like as a movie, I knew a little bit about the book. I thought it was adorable. Like it was super cute. Have you heard about this thing called Netflix lighting? No. So they say now, if you watch a movie from the early 2000s in a movie now, you can tell that they were made in different times because every movie now has this thing called Netflix lighting. And I don't know how to describe it, but I know what they're talking about. Like all movies look the same now. They look like TV shows. They just look like they were made on Netflix. I guess. But also like technology has changed. Yeah. But it's also more like an aesthetic than technology. Like it's still all high quality. It just looks Netflix. OK. And I thought this movie really had Netflix lighting because I just learned about the phenomenon and I was really focused on that the whole time. Do we have Netflix lighting? No, I would say we're so different and unique, you know? Yeah. Netflix can handle it. We have sort of like startup, industrious, maverick lighting. Yeah. Very much like boots. Like, you know, bootstrap. Bootstrap. Maverick. Maverick. I feel the lighting is very maverick. Yeah. Kind of renegade. Maverick. Yeah. And I, both of the actors who were cast, I feel like when books get turned into movies, there's so much like fan casting. Like, I want Sabrina Carpenter to play. And they picked two randoms to nobody's. I'd never heard of either of these people in my life. And they were such good actors. Like, bring back acting good. Do you know what I mean? I feel like, and with the Golden Globes, Brittany Snow was there and it was a reminder to me that The Hunting Wives was nominated for something, which is so crazy. Like, it was a bad show with bad acting that we loved because it was bad. And I feel like people who mean on vacation remind me like you don't have to act bad. Like you can be good at acting. And you can also like cast new people who are good actors, not everyone. I read those two like unknown people who to me, I think they were like studios, like try and get people with like big social media followings. And it's just like, it's so lame. I'm not watching your movie because you told like I'll watch a movie because I want to see the movie. Cast the right people for the job, please. A thousand percent. Influencers can stay influencers. Big casting news. I don't know if you saw they have cast Rapunzel live action. People really thought it was going to be Sabrina Carpenter as punzy. Isn't she being Alice in Wonderland? Oh, is she? Well, she's so. Being something. Well, she's not Rapunzel. I believe it was a no name. I didn't know her. And then Milo Mannheim is Flynn Rider. Does that mean anything to you? Milo Mannheim from Dancing with the Stars. From Dancing with the Stars fame. And I was like, oh, well, he surely must have done something after Dancing with the Stars because he's, you know, got this role. And when I was reading like the variety article, it was like Milo Mannheim of Dancing with the Stars fame. No, I swear. But he's in Naked Brothers Band. Is he? Like, I don't know him. And he's like in a couple movies like Home Again. You know, he's one of those guys like Nate. OK, you're thinking of Nate and Alex Wolfe who are in Home Again and the Naked Brothers Band. He is Milo Mannheim Wolf. He's our stepbrother. He's not. But I would like one of them. He's of that elk. I get a lot of DMs asking me like what they forgotten what word I'm like you supposed to be using instead of elk. And I just want to let you guys know like I use elk, but I know the real word is elk. In case you're like in a serious situation, you need to know the actual word. It's elk. I L K. So Milo Mannheim's brother is Cameron Mannheim. No, but he's in stuff with the Wolf Brothers. Is he for sure? Like I feel that call. Thank you. I think it's Home Again. We're in there three guys. But I don't think that Milo Mannheim was in Home Again. What was stopping him? Probably dancing with the stars. Milo Mannheim movies and TV shows. Let's go. We do know people say like Milo. Zombies. I love zombies. Yeah, this is like a little Gen Z for me. I don't know Milo Mannheim. Literally just zombies. Cool. At least they were in one thing together. That's kind of cool. And zombies is like one, two, three and four. It's a. So that's you know them from zombies. Well, I have seen zombies one and two. What? Yeah, like with the kids. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like when I like to watch Descendants, like I. Oh, oh, oh, oh. It was like you should watch zombies and it was cute, but it was no Descendants. Got it. But I under it. But it definitely like had Riz. Okay, Riz. And then he's in a bunch of other stuff that I'm sure you guys will shout at me in the comments that he's in. But nothing that I've seen, you know, so don't like say. So he's from Dancing with the Stars. So if you were going to write like he's in Thanksgiving, just right. You girls look beautiful today. Imagine if we just flooded the comments with you girls look beautiful today. That would be so sweet. And it's because I had such a productive, well balanced weekend. Watch the Golden Globes, which we are going to talk about, I assume in the stories. Sorry, Kylie was there. Everyone was kind of there. Yeah, it's like, you know, it's okay. Yeah, look cool if you're into that sort of thing. I know. And I really like was not wanting to watch it because I was just like, there's so many things I could be doing with my son. I'm going to watch this crapola self-congratulatory like. But then I was like, you know, it is my job and I'm committed to the craft and I'm sure it'll come up in tomorrow's show. So I did watch it. I went to bed about 10 o'clock and Nikki Glaser said, we're halfway through the show. I said, you're kidding. I just watched, you know, enough. I saw Timothy when I saw the speech. There were a couple of things I needed to say. I need to make sure Hannah, I'm Bender lost, which she did, which was great for, you know, the Jewish people, non-insufferable people everywhere. Mark Ruffalo, Lola, and I, I was like, I'm going to watch it. Mark Ruffalo lost. It was kind of an amazing night for me. And some of my faves did win. Timothee. So we're going to do it. Can you have your fave? No, I'm trying to think. The one. We're going up, up, up. It's our moment. Did that win? Of course. And they won non-English film as well, the movie. I know that that song is from a movie. They called it The Hunters? Yeah. Okay, yeah. If they're nominated for anything, everyone else is. No, sorry. They best nominated. They won Best Animation. It's an animated movie? I guess. I thought it was a competition show about finding the next K-pop star. Oh, I thought it was like, uh, people's, like a teeny, like a descendants, like, just like people acting in K-pop. No, I'm pretty sure it's like a fairy, right? Yeah. I didn't know it was animated. She's like a fairy, like Tinkerbell vibe. I didn't know it was animated, but I just want to say, I don't know anything about K-pop demon hunters except for the song. I completely support K-pop demon hunters. No. And the woman giving the speech, like, actually almost brought me to tears. Like, it is so amazing to see like this global movie be so widely obsessed and obsessed and accepted when it's so deeply rooted in Korean culture. Like, they don't have big moments like that a lot. And she was so proud. And I was proud for her. I was like getting choked up. I love K-pop demon hunters and I know nothing about it because we're going to win a moment. You know, together. And also I love, and I feel like we said this when, um, I don't think so. BTS had la, ah, ah, in the spot tonight. And it's just like feel good, joyful music. And that's what K-pop demon hunters. Like the message is amazing. That song is so good. Like it lifts spirits. It bridges generational gaps. I love. I also feel like the kids haven't had like how to hit this big. I want to say since- Frozen. Frozen, let it go. That took over the world. You know, there's not there, I feel like, and I'm not into K-pop. It's for like older kids and it's girly. What is? K-pop demon hunters. I see all the girls dressed up for Halloween. Oh, cute. With a long braid. That's how you know what's in the culture. Like the Halloween costumes. Everyone was K-pop demon hunters. I'm happy for you guys. Yeah. I support it. Yeah. Maybe we should watch it. I didn't know it was animated. That would be weird to watch. Yeah, I have a really low bar for animation. I'm not into, and I know that's like a part of Parenthood where it's like you just kind of have to watch these movies. And it's like that's going to be Ben's for like, Ben is obsessed with Disney. Like I'll be in the other room watching Malady TV, like wake me up when it's over. Understood. So yeah, let's get into, should we get into it? I feel like we didn't fully eat PFFB. We've had so much better. Yeah. Do you want to tell them about the circus? Oh my God, I do. We went to the circus in Miami on Saturday. Like with all the kids, it was like my first outing as like a mom. Like you guys always do stuff like that. And I was so happy to be there. Let me tell you what they don't tell you about the circus. She has some. She actually have so many thoughts and notes. And I feel like it must be really hard for the creative directors to be into the Ringling Brothers. I don't know if there are other ones. So it was the one. It wasn't like a bootleg. No, no, it was like official. Like circus. Like Ringling Barnum Bro. And they were saying this ain't nobody like a Ringling party because a Ringling party don't stop me and your husband. We're not. I say that ain't nobody like a Ringling party because a Ringling party don't stop. And I have so many thoughts. I do feel sad for like whoever's job it is to like come up with the songs and the choreography and stuff. It must be really, really hard for them to not tip into the greatest showman soundtrack. I must be like there must be a reason why they don't, whether it's like it's too expensive to clear because I felt really stupid being there, not listening to any and they couldn't even they need to. They need rewrite the stars for trapeze. Yes. The open air to do the show. And Zach was just like, well, they just need to do a greatest showman tour for kids. Like it doesn't need to be the Ringling. It would be nice if they all like I just felt so stupid. I was sitting there being like, whoa. Whoa. Now I do believe like woke culture. Sorry not to sound like Bill Maher. Well, culture has ruined the circus and I'm actually down. You know, I don't, I don't wish long for the days where we're like, you know, abusing animals and like staring at the freaks. Um, so I just feel like the circus like needs to end. And it's like, what are you showcasing? It's not the things that you used to showcase at the circus, which I'm not. Nobody wants to see that. No. And I'm not, because I'm not saying like that it's bad that woke culture like that's where woke slate, you know, like we don't need to be doing that. But what, what goes on at the circus? If not that, I'm not sure. Like, what did you guys go for? So there was like a fake dog, like a robot dog. It was like actually stupid. Um, so acrobats, triplings. That's the thing. It's just two hours show. There was an intermission. Um, and that's like Cirque du Soleil. How do they differentiate themselves? The trap piece was really amazing. Like real, like I was awestruck at the kids at that point. I think we're like really over it. I was like, wait, we're just getting started. Some of the other tricks were like cool unicycle. I don't know. I just feel like as a society, we have moved past the need for a circus. Although I hate to cut children's programming for the arts, you know, I feel like, you know, Miss Darbys, the arts are so important, but I do feel like the circus needs to evolve. And that's on them to figure out. I know. And that's on the greatest showman that's on Pasick and Paul. Greatest showman can barely get their musical theater production. I know. Off the ground. They're not taking on a world tour. That's why Ringling Brothers should collaborate with greatest showman. I didn't go to the circus because I was home with Max. So like I missed all of this. Yeah. I forgot to fill you in. And this is probably not a reflection. But I heard my husband on the phone on my desk. He was like catching up with friends and family. I heard the sound bite over and over again. The circus is not what it used to be. And your husband like could knock it over the fact that there were no clowns. Yeah. Which I guess are clowns canceled. I think they're considered really spooky. Like it's not family friendly if there are clowns. Clowns like most kids are afraid of. Yeah. I'm not. Oh and to be clear I'm not the only person who thought this way. The arena was less than 50% full. I thought we got there early. Now this is more of a reflection on this arena. The Kassaya arena. More so than the Ringling Brothers. Let me tell you some of the best food I've ever had. I had this fucking hot pretzel. And I'm from New York City. Like I know good hot pretzels. The best pretzel I've ever had in my entire life. Like the zip bound could not stop me from housing this fucking pretzel. And I had to eat it behind the kids. Because kids were like just getting like little popcorn. And I was like literally hiding behind a chair. Like we were at Fat Camp eating this fucking pretzel. It was so delicious. Like so salty. So soft. It was literally just centigrade. It felt like cotton candy. Like it was fucking amazing. And everyone agreed. Oh wow. Looks like we have to take in a heat game at the Kassaya arena. Oh Kassaya. No that's demon hunters. I think it's called the Kassaya arena. Something like that. Kassaya. Yeah. Yeah. This pretzel was so good you guys. It's like I haven't. Like that's what I came home and talked to people about. Like I was like, I'm not the music or anything. Yeah. And they were like just playing like Doja Cat and like popular music. It felt weird. It felt weird. No. Like hey, do rock around, do rock around. That's right. On time. It's tricky. Like love run DMC at the circus. I don't know. It just, it didn't, they should have played. Of course not. Like nothing. It was really weird. And then I got to thinking about the performers. You know, of course as an empath. Where do they come from? As an empath I couldn't help but look at these people. How do you become a performer on the circus? Like it's not like they live in Miami. Like they're traveling. They're off to North Carolina. And what's it like to be in the traveling circus? And is it like, is that your stated goal? Or is it, you know, you were a gymnast and now you're doing circus and then you're going to, you know, you go on to do other things. Like, so we were actually, we were discussing that as well. Your husband and I about how a lot of them, especially in the trapeze, we're probably on some sort of Olympic track at one point because they were that sophisticated in their. That's how it felt on Disney on Ice. So Olivia was being such a fucking know-it-all. She's so funny. Like when it started, like we just knew it wasn't going to be like amazing. And she was like, we have to go to Disney on Ice. She was like, she was just being like that mom who's like done it already and I'm new here. She was like, have you seen Disney on Ice? I'm like, why the fuck would I have seen Disney on Ice? And she was like, it's so much better. Like you really have to go see it. And I was like, okay, like take me. Well the thing is like Disney on Ice has a lot to pull from. Right. A lot of material. And really like they sort of just rest on their laurels of parjee. The soundtrack too. But there's not like, the circus has to have to do so many things. Like even if they slayed unicycles, like, okay, and then everyone's like, what's next? It's like, the circus can never be doing enough. No. And I do want to say about the unicycles. I feel like I use them as an example. They actually were really good. I saw a video of them jumping on a trampoline on unicycles. And that wasn't even the most impressive part. Like we were really, and when I tell you the kids like couldn't out of care at last. It kept, there was a big screen like playing the music and the kids were just watching the screen. Like the size of screen time. Literally. No one told me that never again. It was two hours of screen time. You're lying. No, no, I'm totally kidding. It's like they went to a movie. But they did have a big screen. As they should. To like, you know, show what's happening on the floor in case you're up in the rises. Oh, so they didn't watch the live show. They watched the screen. They were just like sort of like looking at everything. Sure. Yeah. Sure. So I went to the circus. Great. Yeah. Wouldn't recommend, but you had a nice time. If you're looking for like, you know. I love a, you know, a children's activity where we're seated. Yeah. So a lot of these, you know, motherhood parent activities are physically laborious and I'm just not at a stage in my life where I can be like squatting and rolling around, you know, music class, like the sitting on the floor, it kills me. My legs fall asleep. My back is broken. I'm hunched over like an actual. Like one of those chairs, like a cozy creek. A thousand percent. Or like, or like a soccer mom chair. Like, you need to be on the floor. So I know the sitting at music class, like it's, I'm almost like at my limit, like I can't do music class anymore. She literally just started like. So to be clear. I'm made. I really like seated affairs. So I'm not going to clown on the circus. And anytime you guys want to go to like a ticketed event where we're sitting, I'm down. Yeah. Okay. Great. Well, thank you. Yeah. And yeah, consider. I just feel like me giving a negative review is like going to be like the final nail on the coffin for wringling. Like I feel bad. No, no, I think there's so much potential. Yeah. You know, and agreed. People love children's programming. Disney and I sells out so quick because we're looking for things like that to do. Right. And it's literally empty. Yeah, I could see that in the picture. Um, consider partnership with the greatest showman. Don't consider. Persu. Actively. And anything can be like renewed and reinvigorated. It's true. Like, yeah. Yeah. You guys have such amazing friends. Just because you can't like beat the shit out of elephants doesn't mean you can't put on a good show. It doesn't mean you have anything to begin with. No, and it's like, try a little harder. Honestly. Yeah. Embrace your inner PT. He would have figured it out. Okay. So there was a character named PT. Yeah. And there was also like a DJ and there was like a girl. Like she was like show running the whole thing. She was cute. Um, yeah, I don't know. The thing is the point of the circus that gets to entertain. So you're saying you can't entertain us. That's not true. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I feel bad. Yeah. I feel like maybe some of them were like college cheerleaders too. Because you know, they talked in cheer about how like there's no professional career for a college cheerleader. Like collegiate is the highest level that you can perform and then you have to like go work in marketing. Um, so maybe some of them joined the circus. And actually, like when you said like you run off and join the circus, like that used to mean something else. It means it used to mean you're crazy. No, but like when you just said like they just joined the circus. Actually, you know what I was really surprised by it. Now it means like you're a touring artist. I guess. Yeah. A lot of the performers were Asian and I think that a lot of the like dancing and choreographed style is inspired by like Asian martial arts because it was like a lot of jumping. And that was impressive. That was impressive. And I wasn't expecting that. So it sounds like what they need is like better packaging, like better songs and like they need better music. Yeah. And showmanship. Yeah. They've got the talent. They've got the stuff. Like one of the hosts was literally Ryan from High School Musical. 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Go to quince.com slash toast for free shipping on your order and 365 day returns now available in Canada too. That's Q U I N C E dot com slash toast to get free shipping and 365 day returns. Thank you. Our first story Golden Globes 2026. Night list of winners and other notable moments. Shall we start with winners or start with Nikki Glaser? Let's start with Nikki Glaser. I watched her monologue in the car on the way here. Yes, I drive Hummelberg and I drive a car by myself and that's something that I can do. That's great. Whilst listening to a monologue. It's crazy. And I thought it was hysterical. I laughed out loud so many times. Yes, she is just great at this. And I think it's like a really delicate balance because she's like known for roasting and sometimes when you come on and roast it gets uncomfortable. And so it really is like a perfect balance of being funny, being snarky, roasting people in a way that's like not mean not going to offend anyone. I don't think anybody took anything like too to heart because she didn't say anything that mean except to Kevin Hart and like she knows him personally. You could tell. I thought she was great. The she brings everything. She has the wit, the snark, but she also like maybe like six or seven outfit changes and she just kept looking like more amazing. Every time she walked out, you they made her. She made them play a Taylor Swift song. Joe Alwyn was in the audience. Like just seriously, that's our girl. That's our girl. And I feel like for the next couple of years, we don't need to give this job to anyone else. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. I haven't like seen anything of any, you know, awkward moments. No, the monologue. Oh, except there was this like song. I didn't I didn't like it. And it was like cute at the end because they brought Francesca out and like she made like your voice is in a way like it was funny. But that one like thing where she just did karaoke to Golden from K-pop Demon Hunters, which changed the words and we're like, I didn't like that. Was it like offensive and awkward or just not funny and not your favorite? It wasn't offensive at all. It wasn't like a joe coy. No, I feel like they had just come back from break. People were still like standing and she's like dancing. They're like everyone's like schmoozing. It was like that was just that was the only low point. He just didn't hit, but like it wasn't bad or offensive. No, great. It didn't hit. I think she should get the job again next year. And I I would imagine that she will. I would imagine that she will too. It is the hardest, worst job and she executes flawlessly every time. I know she's putting everyone on notice because it's like you can do this job. Maybe it's not the hardest, worst job. Maybe if you're just a funny person, like it's doable. That's a really good point. Because for so long we're like, it's a thankless job. There's no funny jokes to make with people in the room. Two years in a row, funny jokes. The audience is laughing. The people are laughing. It's a job that can be done. Now I thought that the Golden Globes were so interesting because obviously it's movies and TV and like I feel like I don't ever really have issues like who they nominated. It's all the good popular shows. But they're like fringe categories that I find really interesting. Of course, last night was the first time they did podcasts. They also do stand up comedy. And I was really shocked because I had not heard of one of the comedy specials that was nominated. Did you know Kumael Nanjiani had a special? No, but like Sarah Silverman had a special. Bill Maher had a special. Ricky Gervais was nominated and he won. And yeah, sure, he releases specials a lot. So like I would assume that he had one. I was shocked. I had literally never heard of any of these specials. I just feel like they totally miss the mark on that's not the specials people were talking about this year. The ones, you know, it's like more like internet, but like the big podcasters, Andrew Schultz, like that's who people talk about. Yeah, I can't say I'm up on the specials these days because I'm really not either. There are so many specials. I've kind of like exited my era of watching so many of watching the specials. I feel like people have moved on from comedy specials. Maybe that's like a hot take. But I feel like there were a couple of years where it was like comedy specials. Or maybe at least for me, like, and I feel like maybe there was a time where I was like comedy, you know, and I was like following more comedians. And someone really has to have a great hook. If I'm going to sit down and watch your special, like I feel like we watched Ellen's or Attempted to because of like what I say, you know, and so when there's not that, it's just like, here's another special about the last year of my life. Right. If I don't follow you that closely to begin with, I don't care. I don't care. And then the ones that like made waves like that I heard about were just none of these. Yeah. Like Golden Globes is a little antiquated, given to like these old school comedians. And it's like, yeah, well, you might have had a good special, but no one's talking about it. Yeah. Yeah. I guess the only special I watched last year that I can remember and it's because you just said it was Andrew Schultz. Right. Right. But I, yeah, maybe there's another one, but you didn't say it. So I don't remember it. And then with the podcasts, you know what I didn't even realize I loved, first of all, like them doing a podcast category, I like seriously obsessed and I'm so happy anyone. I've actually done like a total 180 on Amy because I really respected that she got up there. I was like, I'm new here. It's such a slay that she has been podcasting the shortest and one, like that's huge. And I didn't even realize like the geopolitical climate of her being nominated up against her ex-husband, Will Arnett from SmartList. And I'm so glad they lost. But every single one nominated was an interview show. I didn't even realize that. I didn't know if Mel Robbins, but she does. She just interviews people. I don't know. Like what about just for the scripted shows, you know, there are other types of shows. Oh, I feel like if you're going to get into scripted shows, that's a different category. Like, well, yes, then it's then it is a podcast award show. If you're going into genre, we've been needing. And I actually think the more celebrity podcasts there are, like the more there is a need for the potties. Yeah, like people, they like to do award shows around celebrities. There is a need for the potty. They're like, oh, we don't need an award show for you. So yeah. So for that reason, this is a great start. I'm looking at everyone who was nominated. What's up first? NPR. Is that not the daily? It's like the daily, but the daily didn't get nominated. So there was a very specific criteria as well for who could have even been selected for a nomination. What was the criteria? You had to be one of the top 25 podcasts. So there's only 25 you could have chosen from. That feels right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Um, and I'm not mad about Amy winning. I think it's really it's crazy that she's been doing it. It's crazy. But like the Golden Globes just represent the year of the arts. So like who they don't care that you didn't podcast in 2024. Right. Objection relevance. Not their problem. Yeah. So her 2025 year was better than everyone else's, according to the Golden Globes. I hope. Better than the toast. But as we said, it was an interview thing. I hope like GGHQ like feels good about the inclusion of podcast categories. I hope they would do it again. Like I really, I think it's so good for the medium. It's such a, it's such a sign of respect. It's very exciting. It is. And I think in this case, I'm happy. I'm glad for celebrities that like they're the ones moving the ball. They really give us a platform. They gave us a platform. They uplifted these voices. So let's get into the winner. Shall we? Yeah. Sorry. Um, oh, do you have like a best dressed? Oh, I wasn't watching that closely, but I thought Jennifer Lawrence. That was my best. She looked amazing. I was amazing, but seriously, Kylie could wear anything. It's just Kylie is there. She'll right. She also didn't walk the carpet. So like, I don't know if we can really include her. It's like, I need to see a red carpet photo. Yeah. So here are the winners of the major categories. This usually doesn't mean anything to me, but this year more than ever. I've never even heard of some of these. It means less and less means so little. Yeah. Best drama was Hamlet. Yeah. And I'm not Hamlet with a typo. That's what Nikki Glaser. They did a segment. It was like, oh, let's see the trending searches, what people are looking up. How to spell Hamlet. Oh, that's funny. Or something like that. Yeah, it was funny. I heard her joke about Hamlet. Spanx. So that Hamlet beat out Frankenstein. It was just an accident. That's the name of a movie. It was just an accident. The secret agent, sentimental value and sinners. I've heard of sinners and they won box office achievement. Haley Steinfeld was there with her bump. Michael B. Jordan was there looking sexy. Like a funny Nikki Glaser joke was I saw Wicked 2 for money. Hilarious. Hilarious. And they cut to Ariana Grande at that moment. She did laugh. I was in my car. So I didn't get to watch. The reactions. Yeah. Reactions because I'm a safe driver. Oh, and the Leonardo DiCaprio bit was actually very funny and very true. Like I was thinking, I'm like, she made a joke about his girlfriend. So I'm like, I feel like she's smarter than that. Like that's we're so played out. Like 25 year old girlfriend. And she was like, and I have to make that joke because we literally know nothing else about you. And it's like, yes, actually, like what does Leo like? Yeah. Besides 25 year old girls. Best comedy or musical, one battle after another. So that was Leo's movie. Guillermo del Guillermo. And that's who he went on New Heights with to promote that movie. OK, that's yeah, that was just that's my limited knowledge. Toro. I feel like it's not Guillermo. Benicio del Toro. Are they brothers? Or maybe he's a del something else. I don't think he's a del Toro. Yeah. Benicio del Blanc. He looks like Brad Pitt, by the way. I thought it was Brad Pitt. Yeah, I thought that you saw a picture like from the party and someone was like hugging someone that looked like Brad Pitt. So I went to look. I'm like, he's hugging Brad Pitt. All right. Benicio. Oh, and I have one more thing to say about the name del Toro, but not brother's no relation. I have something else to say. I feel like this is going to be a really unpopular opinion. I think I thought Nikki's bit about George Clutier. I mean, he's asked you something. My name is pretzo hysterical. Hysterical. You didn't watch but like the phobicina on a mall like girl smile. You're on camera. Like I was wondering what she was going to say. I have a question. I want to ask you. Yeah. I thought it was going to be like something vulgar or like, you know, cast me in your movie like hilarious. Like a mall had such a mug. I was like, girl, you're at the Golden Globes live, live a little, let your head out like calling out people. It's so funny. So funny. I didn't even know he's the face of Netsbreds. You didn't even see his commercials. Not really. Oh my God. It's all over. That's maybe because they know they already got me. I have a Netsbreds. Yeah. Right. You're the target. Like target demographic. Target check. Right. Okay. Now best actor in a drama, Wagner Mora for the secret agent. Okay. Congratulations, Wagner. Love you. Um, best actress in a drama, Jesse Buckley. How did that? Okay. Congratulations, Jesse. That's non English language film, the secret agent. I didn't know that was a non English language film as I read this list. You learn something new every day. Best animated film, K-pop demon hunters. So cute. And you know what? I guess it wasn't like a stacked year because the only other movie I've heard of is Utopia 2. Right. And that's really because of Dancing with the Stars. Right. Robert Irwin. And I am a mama and I don't know these. So, um, yeah. They would have won regardless. They would have won regardless, but they could have swept anything. Yeah. Best director, Paul Thomas Anderson, one battler, another. So Judd Apatow gave out this award. Okay. And he did this bit that was so crazy. I don't know what the reaction was. Please send out for the comments. Did you like it? I thought it was like so, hey, look at me. Like it was just, he was just being like, well, they obviously asked me to give out the word for best director because they think I'm like the best director ever. And like, I'm the best. And it was just like, kind of. Does he ever won? I don't know. It's like kind of girly. Like, I don't know. I really did not like it. Um, and he's like, I want to thank my muse Leslie. And like, I was just like, can you stop? Oh, also I need to talk about J.Lo. He's thanking his muse Leslie, though he hasn't won anything. Right. That was like the joke. Like I'm like, I feel like I won because I've been asked to give this award. I guess it's like girly because it's like, I'm serious. And that's how like that's girl humor. Yeah. It's just like, I'm the best. Yeah. No. And it's like, yucky. I don't know. I really didn't like it. I understand. But I could see people being like, Judd Apatow is so funny. Well, they definitely have like, Judd goggles on those people. Like some people are just like, Judd Apologists. Yeah. And he did say, um, which I thought was actually not cool. He was talking about like people in the room and he was like, and Seth Rogen left because he won his award. And then, Judd, Joe Rogan, Joe Rogan, what's his name? Judd Apatow said that he had left. And I thought that was like actually really uncool. Like everybody who was in the room seated for your award, what about the person at the very end? Uncool that Seth left. Yeah. Uncool that Judd said it. I'm going to give a fuck. Like, yeah. No, I know. The fact that he left. I don't know. I thought that was really lame. Like I think Seth Rogen is lame. Yeah. Of course. I'm going to clown. But now I have like a really good reason. Like I just thought it was not cool. Like you got everyone to stand up for you and like not be seat fillers, right? Like it's just rude. Yeah. I thought it was rude. Best actor in a comedy or musical, our boy Timothy Chalamet from Artie Supreme. Now we got a very small Kylie. Yeah. We got a Kylie reference, but not like what we got at the critics choice. I feel like actually also really liked his speech about how he just was really raised by his dad to be like so grateful for everything. And that's how in years past he's come to this award ceremony and left empty handed and like not been upset about it. Like felt so grateful and that this just means so much more. And you know, thanking everybody at the film, Josh Shafty, Yada Yada, Odessa, the cast, the crew and my partner. And my partner. I love you. No Kylie. No, he said my parents and my partner. I love you. So now she's like part of the family. He can't have say the same thing that he said two weeks ago, like boring, but he said partner again. Yeah. But like she is part of his unit. Yeah. And the yeah. And I'm waiting for the Oscar speech. Like that's the big one. Oh, right. So I think it's pretty clear like he has a like more, more than ever has a real chance. And I do think I might have to tune into the Oscars for that reason. However, he'll be up against really because there's two categories. Yes. It's easier to win the Golden Globe because they split the movies into categories. So Wagner, Mora won Best Actor in a Drama. So it's Timothy versus Wagner. He needs to look out for Wagner. Yeah. That's all I'm saying. Yeah. Cinematic and box office. Achievement, sinners, best actress in a musical or comedy, Rose Byrne. If I had legs, I'd kick you. Oh, OK. She was like shook because she's in like some like random independent Josh Safty film. Like she like the Josh Safty film is Marty's Supreme. And she was there like on this like art film. She had no clue she was going to win. I was wondering if she was still married to Bobby Cannevelli. And then she said, Bobby, I love you. He couldn't be here tonight. I was sure if she was joking. He couldn't be here tonight because we're purchasing a what a bearded dragon. And he's like at this expo in New Jersey. Now it was just so specific that I thought like it was the truth because she had such details. What's a bearded dragon? Like a pet? Like a lizard. Yeah. Oh, is it? Yeah. Pet lizard. You know, so I just did anybody else know if she was serious or joking. And I love Rose Byrne. She's so underrated. I didn't know a bearded dragon is a pet lizard. How do you know that? Because she just said it. But how do you know that? Is that a known thing? Yeah, I think it's known. I don't know. It sounds like you're the free word. The world. Like why is that a bearded dragon? I don't know. I don't know how to make up the rules. I'm not going to. I see bearded dragons every day. Yeah. When you see iguanas every day. No, I see lizards. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I always take a picture. Send it to Margo. That's how like I know. It's a lizard. She's with me. I didn't ever heard of this or whatever, but Rose Byrne is an amazing actress. Yeah, I love her. Give it to her. If it wasn't going to be for Annie, it should be for this. And I feel like she really did not think she was going to win. Like she brought her brother like as her date. Like I think if she had a real chance like her husband would have been there. Yeah. The only other buzzy one that I saw was best supporting actress Taion and Taylor for One Battle After That. Yes. She really was shook. She did not know she was going to win. She gave a great speech. She looked gorgeous. I think most notably a lot of the like TV shows that we thought were going to win like White Lotus. Three of the women were nominated in the category for Carrie Coon, Amy Lee Wood, and Parker Posey, and none of them won. I think that's great. Who did win for the woman? For which? For the show. Which show? TV show, like actress and a TV show. Maybe supporting actress and a TV show. Who? Oh yeah, Jean Smart. She deserves it. And she wins always. So like we didn't win. Oh, best supporting actress. I see the three white Lodi. We have Erin Doherty from Adolescence. Yeah, Adolescence swept too. The little kid won. She won. Adolescence was the Netflix show, and it was filmed in one take. Was it? Is that the one that was filmed in one take? I didn't know that that was that was a thing. Yeah, that's pretty cool. Like they never ended the camera. That's actually very cool. Yeah. Like a play. Yeah, but it's like you could not. You know, like why are you doing all that? Yeah, I saw. We did this amazing thing called like Final Cut Pro. Our fellow family. Our fellow family? Josh Peck. He was like talking about it months ago. Like about it. Got it. And he's like, you could cut. It's such a good call. You know what? This is kind of like a weekend for me of like realizing stuff. And you actually helped me come to this realization. Because last night I put Ruby in his pajamas without an undershirt. And I don't know why. Like I didn't realize till you said it. Like I thought they were literally going to cuff me up and take me to jail if I didn't put the baby's onesie on and then the pajamas every outfit he wears undershirt. And then I had this realization. I'm like, we also could not like we're in Florida as fucking hot. He doesn't even bring multiple layers. And he's also just like a baby who runs hot. It was just this sort of like freeing realization. They're kind of a big- And you always cry when I put the undershirt on. Like, oh, well, you got to get the ones that snap down the side. I do. But like it's just always like the arms. Like it's a thing. No. And it's like when baby is a newborn, they should have one more layer. Yes. So if you're wearing jamas, they should have jamas and an underlayer. My king is eight months and he's enormous. Like he's fine. And as they get bigger, like that no longer applies. Plus if there's- And I just bought like new kite baby onesies, but like I don't eat them. I'll take them. Actually you could wear them as a shirt. Shirt. Yeah, yeah, yeah. With nothing else. Yeah. No, you're definitely like on that onesie grind with baby number one. Yeah. And then it starts to be like, how about that onesie? Do we really need it? Okay. So is that Golden Globes? Yeah. We feel good. We feel good. I feel good about it. Which- Yeah, yeah. What one like best picture? One day after another in battle. Oh, right. Oh, right. Battle. One battle. And then also comedy. Right. Which was what? Comedy or musical? I believe we said it. Best comedy or musical. One battle after another. Okay. So best drama. Ham. Oh, right. Right. Right. Yeah, we said it. I know I said I was going to like watch all the Oscar movies this year because I had such a good time last year and like it's fun to recap when you like know stuff. But the thing is nobody ever agrees with me. So I watched all those shitty movies last year just for a Nora to win. Like I don't agree with my fellow voter. So you can all go eat my ass. How about that? Yeah. And there's so many better things worth your time. Like seriously, if you're going to devote that time, like do real houses of Salt Lake City. Or like Trader Season 3. Yeah. It's true. Yeah. And I think that's what like our audience is waiting for. Wants from us. Yeah. They were waiting for you to watch. Don't ask me to do it. It was just a fun thing to do when I was pregnant when I literally like had nothing but time. Yeah. Are you ready for our next story? Mm-hmm. Alex Earl reveals her mom was diagnosed with breast cancer while she competed on Dancing with the Stars. Devastating. So Alex Earl just revealed that her mama was said has been diagnosed with breast cancer. Yesterday she opened up about her mom's health journey in a post shared on Instagram and TikTok posting a video showing her and her sister Ashton by their mom's side in the hospital doing her hair holding her hand and having some ice cream and drinks together. She posted the clip with fuck cancer written over it while a voiceover said strong women never give up. We might need a coffee. We might need a good cry. We might need a day in bed, but we will always come back stronger. Now I'm sick from this. Obviously, I blame Alex Earl's dad. Okay. I just when I think of this woman and what she's been through in her life and how how much she's had to put up with for her family and for the sake of her children, I'm always in awe of her. I feel like I'm always referencing how amazing she is. And of course, she gets cancer. This is bullshit. I just blame him. Yeah. Yeah. I saw this yesterday and I was like, oh, did I miss something? Because it wasn't like a- No. Yeah. And now to know that she was diagnosed while Alex was doing Dancing with the Stars. So like a very grueling schedule amidst the breakup with Braxton. Like Alex is going through it. I know. So in hindsight, I'm really glad that she had that reprieve in New Year's. Like in just like a fun, swirly weekend. Of course. She's going through a hard time. And sometimes you just like have to be spotted with Tom Brady to help like your overall wellness. Yeah. Just like get the vibes up. Yeah. So I'm wishing them the best and just really, really sad. Very sad. And unexpected. Unexpected, yeah. Are you ready for our next story? Some controversy for Jennifer Lawrence. Of course I'm ready. Who I relate to on a very deep level. She shared that she re-homed her dog who bit her child. So Jennifer Lawrence is getting a lot of backlash being called awful after revealing she. Not by me, by the way. I just want to say. After revealing she re-homed her chihuahua named Princess Pippi longstocking because it bit her son. So she was on a panel and she shared that she looked at her dogs differently after having kids. And because one of them bit her. Well, what she had said was that like she before she had kids was an insane dog mom. She's like I literally moved to 67th and first to be near this dog park. Like I was obsessed with my dog. Like nothing could have you know torn us apart. And then when she had her first baby she started to look at the dog. Like very Romeo. Like being like girl get out of here. Like she just she's like my priorities completely changed. And she was like wanting to re-home him and then the dog bit one of the kids. And then it was like a no brainer. Yeah. I don't know why people are mad at her for this. She said after I had a kid my dogs became so scary. It's almost like I don't recognize dogs right now. Like I just see them as a threat. One of them bit my son and that made me just want to obliterate. Every dog. I was just like I'm going to take you out. You your fucking family and your fucking friends. She went and revealed that the dogs are now staying with her parents. So not even like literally the least big deal ever. Re-home people are so sensitive. I know. Re-homes but in general and I can I'm very understanding. But after a bite like you could want to re-home your dog. Want to have kids and they didn't even bite. Like it's just like your priorities change. And you can't give them a better life. Of course. And I just want to say giving your dog to live with your parents is not a re-home. No. That's literally what I do half the year. Like Romeo, Lucid, Ben's parents. But right. So it's like she didn't even need to share this. But I'm honestly glad she did because it's exposing how crazy some people are. Yeah. About like dog. Like I'm sorry the dog bit the child. Oh wait. What are we even talking about the dog bit the child? But even if the dog bit didn't bite the child. Normalize the conversations we're having about like some people. Because I was actually talking to Olivia Colpo about this and her DMs. About how like literally nothing has changed. Like she loves her dog more than ever. Like her and the baby and the dog are like this beautiful little family. Christian too. Beautiful family. I'm like, oh that literally could not be more opposite of my truth. But some people have both experiences. I think if I had had Theo like I barely know Romeo. You know what I mean? Like but my OG dog Theo who unfortunately passed like an untimely death. If he was my dog right now, I would not be having these problems like at all. So some people have like normalize having the conversations about how like sometimes a dog does not fit your life anymore when you have a baby. And that's just really unfortunate. And if you are going to re-home your dog, I really have no problem with that. As long as you're taking proper like don't just give him away Lucy Juicy Apple Goosey. Like let's find a nice home. Even Doree brought him to like the place where she had originally gotten him from. But do we want to have the conversation? Maybe we don't want to step in it about like the original point that she was making about how obsessed she was with her dog and like moving somewhere. No because I think at that point you're just like yucking someone's yums. Okay. Like you can think your own thoughts. Okay. But I don't think that that's a universal truth. I think it's just your truth. Mmm. Well no it's not universal because other people obviously feel a different way. Right. But like do we want to call them out for that feeling? No. No because I had that feeling. Really? Yeah. There was like a time in my life where like the most important thing in my life was my dog. I don't remember you ever being a crazy dog person. Oh really? And I could think of like crazy dog people. Ben. Yes. But not even and you did not fall into that category though you love the with your whole heart like loving your animal is a normal thing. But like revolving your life around them as if they are a child. I don't judge. I actually don't. I say if they are a child. For some people like the dogs are their children. And you either for their whole life for this period of your life. No I really I don't have a problem with it. I don't. Oh okay. I mean I'll talk shit about you behind your back but like I'm not on the podcast. You won't talk shit. No I don't feel like alienating people you know there's some things I'm like willing to die on like I have a feeling that's so strong like I will say it no matter the backlash no matter the comments don't forget to flood the comments with you both look beautiful today. This is not one of those things is it one of those things for you because you can talk about it. No but I just think you know let's let's circle back to that you know yeah think about that. Yeah I just like like less culture races are getting canceled right now like let them have their moment we don't need to have ours. Okay even though I didn't say anything. Yeah no we didn't like there's nothing that you could even like quote like you know what I mean. Yeah we didn't like no clip. What was I thinking. Um but yeah brave for Jennifer Lawrence for sharing this even because once you say the word re-home. It's a trigger word for like the internet. Yeah. And one thing about Jennifer Lawrence is like she's not going to listen to learn like she said what she fucking said. She doesn't have social media we're not getting a screenshot notes have apology we're not getting a clarification like the saga ends here. I don't think I don't think anyone can tell her anything the dog bit her child. It's absurd I can't but I do feel like a lot of like these articles like manufactured backlash is there actually backlash there's no way a reasonable human being could be upset about this. You could buy backlash for anything though if you look hard. Right like three comments. Yeah if you want to muster it up. That's what I mean they like make it for the article. Yeah yeah um are you ready for our next story. If it's our next story brought to you by Amazon MGM's Melania. From Amazon MGM Studios comes Melania. She's done this before now it's your turn to witness how she does it again. This new film takes you inside the 20 days leading up to the 2025 presidential inauguration through the eyes of the first lady herself. The critical meetings the private conversations watch what it really takes to prepare for one of the most powerful roles on the planet Melania only in theaters January 30th. Today's episode is also brought to you by Collective. 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in like like a genuine pleasure and honor to support today's sponsors and just it reminded me that I have a crazy story to tell you I forgot to tell you this so I had to make an appointment I needed like an air conditioning guide to come to my apartment in New York and I'm calling and I'm making an appointment with this guy and they asked me questions like the address what the issue is yada yada and I realized about halfway through I believe I'm on the phone with an AI chatbot it was so crazy I made a full appointment like literally no issue was one of the most pleasant conversations I've ever had I got an email and a text confirmation the only thing that got wrong was I spelled by last name oshr ae I don't give a fuck they got everything right my email they were like spell your email you spell out your name for them you didn't even have to I think I did I did um do better it was so crazy first of all the voice was so lifelike but also he wasn't dumb like anytime I've ever been on the phone with a machine I'm like operator operator representative oh my god it was actually crazy and that had me shaking in my AI boots like for real but that's a good story yeah except for you know the the loss of jobs the loss of jobs right I guess if they were doing an amazing job no and I feel like telemarketers like sad that now you're talking to a robot instead you're happy yeah this is where I'm at with AI like if it's improving my quality of life I have no problem with yeah and that's what happened yeah well I think also where I'm at with AI is like it will probably be the end of the world um as we know and destroy like the human race right so I just enjoy the benefits while we can that's beautiful that's where I know I like that um but you know one thing that AI can't do but make you a loaf of bread but you know who can tell her swift she's gifting her celeb friends her famous homemade sourdough loaves during a night out in LA and I will say regarding chat and sourdough I have used chat to troubleshoot some of my loaves like what's the perfect amount of cook time and temperature and they actually don't have it right for my boulet they have it right for my sandwich shape but not for my boulet they keep burning it I want to say so me as like a sourdough maker I won't be replaced by AI the one thing that I think might save us from AI is the fact that a lot of these AI bots are low-key so stupid like they're wrong about so much I now have to like double check stuff when I when I get the info from chat um I don't know if that's all bots if that's chat specifically um I told you that like chat sent me to a container store once that had been closed for 10 years like it's it's not all it's cracked up to me you have to just sort of like double check your sources I agree but it's getting smarter yes it is getting smarter it can learn yes but I can learn that's chat yeah and I feel like I know the things that chat's not going to be good at like I was asking for like a specialist in my area for something and then they gave me a bunch of people and I literally looked them up and none of them existed right I know that's not what chat is good for right it's not yelp yeah so there are other things where I'm like oh this is the perfect thing for chat night to discuss yeah um but anyways Taylor's friends got some loaves it's so funny like they were all spotted leaving this restaurant we never would have known Taylor was even in the building if they hadn't walked out with these sort of like public display displays of Taylor the the amazon to go bags for sourdolos it's interesting I noticed that as well she uses the brown paper bags that you also use that you literally got from amazon and you would have thought she would have I don't know started packaging it like a little bit more perjoliciously yeah but those bread bags are like so ugly and I feel like they create a lot of condensation too I feel like when you first need a bread bag you just search Amazon yeah and then you realize wait I could have gotten one from like at the and then you started to get like custom stickers but you do have like 50 to 100 of these amazon ones that you need to use I just feel like um like Taylor like with her jet like I don't think she really cares about getting rid of like 50 paper bags well I'll know if like if I don't see 50 of them out in the streets like I'll know she was wasteful and I'll tell everyone I'm wasteful is there anything worse I think like people know actually like one of the accusations of Taylor that I do find like valid like she's a raceful queen I don't think she's I of course she takes her jet take the jet out of it because it's it's not about right right right no idea she's like someone who like is wasteful throws away food like let's buy things from the grocery store that she already had at home and then like throws it away she does like a trash full of stuff that's like she doesn't give like girl who takes leftovers home you know I don't know I don't think she's wasteful well I think she has a lot of like staff people who do these things for her so like all right maybe you know there's a cake that is not getting eaten like just one of the staff members want to take it home I think it's actually like easy to not be wasteful when you have a lot of staff okay that's just a theory I have about like wastefulness yeah I just like wouldn't like count her as like a wasteful person I don't know why um so anyway she gifted her friends the Hame sisters and somber and I feel somber like that was really shocking that somber got a loaf somber I saw him in a picture so um we spoke at him the other day and we didn't know who he is he's not role model but he sings a song he sings a song that you know ready we talked about him because he was on SNL his song is somber me it's not somber me somber is that it I don't know that song but I enjoyed it that's it how does it go like okay I've never heard this song back to friends can we go back to how it ends is that it so he has one song and he's at dinner with Taylor Swift listen we're so close like we just need a song you have two it's actually I'm so good you brought that up nobody everyone's like you should write a song bitch I literally did yeah two two I started to write them but like I bought them yeah and they're really good by you toast on a day we're gonna have a good time my thousand hands up to the sky we're gonna get toasted tonight can't let it fade we got a sparkle in our eyes can't let it wait I'm counting down until we start we're at a gates we come to play and we play hard oh two three four hundred times we're gonna have a good time a thousand hands up to the sky we're gonna get toasted tonight I've been feeling it all day I want to let it go I want to lose control oh I'm ready to roll and I've been daydreaming about this night for a long time I want to dance with you on the moonlight a toast to the wild ones a toast to the good life a toast to the lovers it's toast to you and I a toast to the wild ones to you and I imagine hating at somewhere just like sitting here singing my original song you know it's insane what a waste of your time the fact that we have so many haters genuinely blows my mind genuinely like we're hilarious do you agree I do agree you know what I want to do right now sing I want to hunt it down oh I'm constantly by the way you should join me on the weekend I'm always hunting it down hunt it down it's it's hundred down like hundred down yeah but like I am like a singer so I say like a hundred down you know yeah a lot of people don't know that fun fact it's hundred down hundred mm-hmm you bitches could never and then I think that was an easter egg for your next song I do it is high time for me to release another song because hunted was a easter egg for hundred oh and then my second song um that I sometimes forget it goes it was called 100% and that was like when we were really in the era of like saying 100% yeah 100% don't let them forget go hard till the end because you know that we are 100% don't let them forget mm-hmm because you know that we are 100 we keeping it we keeping it 100 you best believe it keeping it we keeping it one oh this the bridge is actually really good it's like kind of moody after all is said and done we still got us we got love where we're one oh no I'm singing toast a toast to us the wild ones one two never mind we don't keep this up because we are 100% yeah and you know the producer of both of my songs actually oh no sorry just a second song is the producer of our theme song as well I gotta get back in the studio with Curtis have you seen those reels and I imagine tiktoks of like that guy who's like pretenses in the studio when like classic box are going on like that's you you should be great one you should be great one that's me yeah you should do that today and he's like just using like a lazy Susan I love that guy you are that guy I every time I see one of his videos and he always picks like the best part of every song that's my guy yeah are you ready for our fifth well anyway she made loves for her friends as like her friends do and I was gonna say it's kind of like it's such a status symbol like that shitty bag from Amazon it kind of reminds me like when Ariana Grande was giving out her seven rings and it was like well who has a ring and this is just like a ring yeah yeah cool girls make bread yeah yeah are you ready for our fifth mental story traders recap spoiler alerts forthcoming yeah so if you don't haven't seen all three episodes this will contain spoilers as to who the traders are who went home starting now okay so let's talk about like the people they chose for traders and like what we think about like the the concept of the show so I had an idea of what the show was and it is what I thought it was it reminds me does anybody ever play that game that's like made by the same people as quip lash is called the faker you remember we played that in the house like I remember where one person is the faker and like you literally just lie and like say there and I'm so good at it um it's my favorite game and this is basically just like an in-person version of that I'm loving it I had to say first of all Ben is is Zach watching with you no we tried to watch started like I was like let's start traders and neither of us have ever watched it but Max kept waking up and so I kept waiting for him and then it was already Saturday night and I hadn't started because we were disturbed so it's like I have to go on my own I'm sorry yeah well he would really like it Ben's like enjoying it immensely he thinks Alan Cummings is so funny oh I don't even notice Alan Cummings me neither and I do think like a lot of the theatrics are annoying like I prefer like the juice the drama and I was really shocked at who they chose for traders now I don't know what the criteria yeah and I do think they want to keep people on their toes people in the house the audience and I'm shocked at how amazing of a trader I think Lisa Rinna is and I do think this show will end up being very good for her because I've been like a very vocal like Lisa Hader like I wasn't a fan of her on Housewives I was like ready for her to go um and I think she's been amazing I think she's such a good trader she's been so low-key like she I think that's suspicious well of course I think the best one of the traders is Rob well yes Candice like is awful I wish that she wasn't a trader because we're getting so much Candice and she's like so high on her horse and she's like not my favorite housewife by any means because I'm still team Monique right like for me that just is not gonna work um I think Rob is great I don't know him from Love Island I didn't watch his season but he does seem like kind of dumb as a doorknob yeah and very unsuspecting and he is a good game player he's not very dumb but he really like plays it you don't notice him like I feel like Rinna's kind of an obvious choice because she isn't actually I'm surprised that they picked her because she's so traitor-y just who she is as a person yeah for the same way they thought that Donna was a trader because she's such an obvious choice because she's not obvious yeah no no because she's like sweet old lady so it's like oh you'd be a great trader because we would never assume you and the same way that that's an obvious choice I think Rinna's an obvious choice because it's like of course you're a trader so I have so many thoughts about Donna being selected as a trader and this whole concept of secret trader which is a new phenomenon I don't like it over a tg yeah and Donna was never gonna be a good trader it was actually a really bad choice and I think like catching a trader in the second or third episode is not good like I was shocked and the thing is I feel like you really have to be there like feel the vibes because everybody was like Donna it was unanimous and I'm like what did she do besides not talk to you guys like literally like what is she different than like Tara who's like Tara random Donna must have been so obvious like I don't know what the fuck she was doing I also saw theories online saying that she didn't participate in some of the challenges due to like the physical elements of it and she is this older woman which would have given people like a lot of suspicions about her because I feel like there's something not being said about Donna what was so obvious I was actually feeling defensive of her I was like she doesn't know you guys and she's like why the fuck would she be up your ass chatting she's just like sweet old lady so I was like you guys are wrong I thought for sure Colton was the secret trader I thought Colton was a something he's playing this game very well I think he's one of like the smartest game players aside from like the gamers who I don't know even though like Tiffany seems really smart like a really good gamer but she's so barring up the wrong tree yeah with Michael yeah it's crazy she's so misguided she's like it's Michael she named three people and it's none of those people everyone and so the thing is I was like you can be really smart on the show but why Colton I think is going to go far is nobody knows he's smart we know in his confessionals like oh I'm like that's actually a really good way of thinking and he's not there yet but his thought process is right we have to look past the fact that he's like a crazy person who stalked his ex-girlfriend like it's actually insane that he's on the show and being given this platform um so I'm just gonna like try and exist in a vacuum where that didn't happen I do think he's playing really well most of the people who come on the show a lot of them are like former reality TV like villains whatever who have like history of even sandball was on it last season like I do think you just sort of have to okay but like everyone you just like none of it comes close like like breaking the law and like being a stalker I'm like Miriam Webster defines stalker I mean what Jesse Smollett's on special forces it's true oh for out about Jesse Smollett yeah that's a good comparison um I want to talk about with Colton my issue with the show it kind of is like may the dumbest person win because if you are smart you are automatically eliminated for being smart so we're not having this like that I mean the fact that Rob knew there was a murder in plain sight he's like wait you started the conga if only he had the opportunity to tell one person if you ever needed proof as to why kennis is a terrible trader it was the conga line it was so obvious so stupid like you that was your quickest way to get everybody in one room like so dumb you should have been like guys I want to talk about something like make an accusation and she's messed up a couple times but gotten away with it or she's able to smooth it over porche with Michael Rappaport and like I'm annoyed at Mara because she's the only one who knows the truth and she didn't remember she wasn't even listening okay but I ship more on Rob I ship more and Rob I wonder if they'll come to that conclusion they're themselves they're both from love island I love more on love she was at the Golden Globe she looks sick yeah she does like a lot of TV work she's best friends with Molly May she's from her season she was like the best one on her season like personality out of the wazoo we're not seeing a lot of it on the show yet but there's there's so many people you know who's like actually really being just like dumb and is pissing me off and this is gonna like offend you personally Caroline Sammer yeah she stinks what did she do wrong she just thinks she stinks like everything she says like you're wrong she's just like not giving that much she's not really participating yet but um I love her jacket that she keeps wearing her little puffer I want to talk about Michael Rappaport who was like probably the most polarized talked about person I saw before I even started I saw so much hate for Michael and I was like oh god what did he do and then I saw this New York magazine article is Michael Rappaport ruining traders but this like scathing that was the headline and then the scathing article I was so looking forward to finding out what he did when I tell you I have no idea what you guys are talking about first of all he was cracking me up and I kind of did think jam jam was a traitor like if you're a traitor and you know what clap your hands I'm sorry he's this like eccentric personality maybe he's not for everyone I have no idea like what people are referring to when they say he's ruining the show um the people who are that article like obviously just don't like him because he's a Zionist yeah Zionist and wearing a big Jewish star yeah I think he's hysterical I was ready to be like uh Michael Rappaport I don't really know him from that much other than social media so I've not like seen him in his element he's so funny I love that he doesn't like back down from confrontation like other people they don't want to be in confrontation they like everyone on these shows has huge personalities like you don't want to be like read to fill by anyone everyone's just like sort of hiding no one is putting themselves out there I think he's being so funny and also being brave everyone is just that's what's the problem with the show everyone it's her mentality everyone who is quiet skates by until the end may the dumbest most quiet person win because like the people who are actually putting themselves out there to say I think it's this person and then say it's not that person well all of a sudden it's you like Ron like Ron just really try to put something together I have such an issue with people hating Ron and now thinking this is where it's like you're obviously not a smart person because how you could think Ron acted in any sort of malice when he just came to the tables like this is the evidence that I have he obviously doesn't know Portia who said that she just like says stuff and she speaks wrong and she's what bothering me is the same way Portia said we sent Ian home which by the way Michael you did send Ian home because you someone put this team put the casket in his grave like and we got Ian sent home sure Michael said it at the table so you could see how this slip up would happen yeah and to think that like Donna Michael and Ian who are each like sort of taking the same side right now that they're all the traitors because they're saying the same thing you think that the traitors would be so stupid as to like publicly at the round table team up and say here we are like they're just they're playing checkers when the it's a game of chess justice for Ron he had me fully convinced because and I'd like that you know if you're still there no of course but if you're gonna make an accusation like proof is paramount and that's what I was saying with Donna nobody had proof other than the fact that she wasn't talking about it was just vibes which I guess if you're there in person and clearly they were right but Ron came to the table with like straight up facts I appreciate like the the clarity in which the accusation was made and okay they were wrong that's okay yeah if he knew Porsche for one second like I never thought she would have been like seriously the world's if if what she was doing was because she was a traitor she would be the world's worst traitor so I don't think it was her but he could he could have just not said anything and not put a target on his back so it's like people who are putting themselves out there who are trying to play the game like Michael are being penalized and so we're gonna wind up with just like a bunch of Steven Coletti's oh okay yeah you're right there's way too many people on the show although I do appreciate that in the first three episodes like four people have already gotten home like they're moving quickly there are far too many people like and even there are people who I think are good and have big personalities are just falling through the cracks mark ballast like oh and also there are a couple of people who and I literally talk pop culture for a living whom I've never seen in my life Eric the songwriter even Ron I like him where the hell is Ron I agree Eric the songwriter is random I obviously don't know the gamers but it's almost unfair to have them in the show because they're always going to be started first because people know that they're smart so it's like the best person to win the show is someone who like seems dumb but isn't and like you play that that's really the only way to win that's why I think Rob is good at the game that's why I think Gabby Wendy won her season I could I could see now why you wouldn't like suspect her of being a mastermind but she's actually really brilliant yeah um I'm enjoying it so much like I and I'm now like learning like you know some more behind the scenes they don't live in the castle they say at a hotel that makes sense I mean everyone has glam so I was also wondering are they getting full glam for sure they're on tv they're you know tv stars I don't think they're gonna just like roll out of bed and show up to tv and I like that because I'm watching a television show yeah produce it look beautiful please yeah yeah so I'm fine with that and they are all like you know the biggest stars in in their own lives like they're not gonna be like bunking up if the traitors do get found out it will be because of Candice the thing about Candice and I feel like this is the most dangerous combination of person like someone who really thinks that they're smart and is not yeah she is so obvious like how no one is on her isn't saying the conga line thing but I would have been like girl it's you yeah and how nobody thought that was weird why no one followed up on the lie especially after portions found out to be a faithful it's right so where did this communication originate in this conversation lied the person who you thought was lying turned out to be a truth teller so let's look at the other person I feel like there are a couple of threads of things that have happened that people are like following up on like Michael and Jim you're following up on the wrong things yeah yeah and the people who are there like who are the smart ones like tiffany I feel like her game theory is really spot-on but she has just completely taken it down the wrong path and she's gonna end up nowhere yeah I feel like she's like in love with Michael like she's so blinded by him just say you like Michael and I totally like no I didn't did you see Michael eating the spaghetti yeah that was insane I don't like clock it but yeah oh I and they literally they must have known like they stayed on him for like four bites it was shocking he is so funny I'm sorry you're not gonna get me to hate Michael he's funny he's adding like and I was like ready too because I was like oh he's loud mouth annoying and then I watched everything and I'm like he's trying to play this game he's being funny and he's being brash and not just being scared of being sent home and not being on tv yeah no there's so many people like seriously Stephen claddy what are you doing there even claddy but every time he does speak I'm like you're kind of a p-jump the fact that he would have been a good trader he wouldn't he to me is the same as Rob like yeah just to kind of assuming unassuming Rob I think is playing it well Stephen when he like wouldn't take the seat because he was like my mom raised me I would never like make a woman put around and he's still on tv so like he's like still being watched like you like there's so many elements that play like you want to be good faithfully want to be good trader but you're also on tv he wants to be a good person yeah yeah no I have no problem with him personally there's just too many people on the show no I'm just saying like yeah but I actually I don't mind he's not someone that I mind I don't really mind anyone but I'm just like this idea that like only the people who's really middle line it and who go like unnoticed are gonna go far until the end because the people who are really playing the game are going to get eliminated not my favorite kind of game because I like games of skill and I feel like the more skill you have the quicker you are to be eliminated that challenge where they were so okay another person falling through the cracks Johnny where it's just not working yeah even though him and Tara have this like big plan to like see him up to the end yikes we'll be eating our words I'm I'm really curious I'm I'm having fun I just want to say I'm really having fun and I'm like oh and also we've tell me lies this week it took me a minute but what's also crazy is like it's unconfirmed if this is going to be a good season do you know what I mean that's kind of like how we watch Love Island I just said that this morning and people are trying to shoehorn it like it was amazing it was not but the season before was amazing and we missed that one the season before this one was apparently amazing um and we didn't watch it but so it's like oh maybe I'll go and watch that if this doesn't turn out to be what I think it's going to be yeah and I really I like that they're expanding I feel like a lot of these shows like Dancing with the Stars and what's the show Jesse's special forces I really think that they're expanding like their net in terms of who they're casting and we're ending up with some great moments and so I think they should continue to and maybe that's what like Eric was and you can't win them all obviously like but like the the wider net the more people they throw some podcasters in there again like I do think well of course it had me thinking like could I ever do the show would I be good at the show and I don't think that I would be so I'm not going to nominate myself I think I would be amazing it's literally that game the faker oh and because you love lying yeah you have to watch out because you always look up when you do so true yeah I would love for them to have like a mentalist on the show oh did you see oh by the way that's so funny Oz Perlman I literally thought the same thing because he was just on Ben's podcast but also yes oh my god it was a really big deal fascinating to me did you also see that um they're casting for regular the kind of like celebrity big brother it'll be like celebrity traders and regular you're not calling me regular are you no no I was just sharing facts like this is the biggest you would be a celebrity of course cast Jackie no no but I'm saying it'd be crazy they casted like two people together like a duo like the chrisleys or something and like one was a traitor and one wasn't yeah they could tell they would have no well if they could they could trust each other implicitly they could work together yeah and would that be a good thing yeah but until a certain point because either the traders win or the faithfuls win got it interesting I would like I would want to be on the same team as you obviously like don't cast us if you can't put us at both this traders or faith falls yeah what would you rather be trader traders get more screen time duh that's what Candice was saying and I was like I appreciate her honesty but it's a lot of pressure like when they had to murder in plain sight the anxiety yeah the people's good just to sit around on their arms it's so fucking true resting on their laurels yeah they don't even know how good they I guess I guess what's like fueling them is that they don't want to be sent home the faithful yeah so that in order to not be sent home all you have to do is sit around smore yeah which I could do yeah any other thoughts no I felt bad for Donna I'm shocked that they made her oh what also bothers me about the show is that the entire format of the show is based on producers like who's gonna be a trader is because producers choose right so it's like what is the criteria for it's not earned really no I do feel like at this point it's random because if you do what you they did in years past you would try and find like the Dolores but I think Dolores a trader I don't remember but I mean I don't know but I think that they really try to switch it up but it's like on the one hand Lisa Rena and Donna are like the two most obvious traders because Donna is like you want to put her in your show she has this great cover even though now watching all of her scenes back all she had to say was I'm such a big fan of everyone like that she was obviously no in hindsight it's so obvious in hindsight it's so obvious and then Lisa Rena also actress you know villain will they should not have made Donna a trader secret or otherwise and then also making her a secret trader was so unfair because it's so isolating for her and it's this new thing I think she already felt probably isolated she's the only one who's coming on is not part of like a pack as a housewife or a gamer like with a community and she's like alone and then she's a trader but alone at least the traders like have each other that was not fair you know what I am looking forward to like murdering face to face like I do think whoever gets murdered is going to be shocked oh so it ended on a cliffhanger who do you think will be murdered between Caroline Standberry they had good reasonings Christy yeah I think it'll be someone random I don't like how in there you know what do they call it up at the top with the B um they only the turret the turret about the reasons why they should murder someone they never say why they shouldn't murder someone um so I really think it's between Eric and Kristen I think if they were they're like Rob would be good because it's random no if you murder Rob then Ron no Ron sorry then you will know that everyone who was like around like who said the same things as him like Michael um are also not traders and that gives them people too many clues so say that don't say it would be good because it's random it wouldn't be good period yeah and I do think like the whole housewives protecting housewives like they should take out Caroline because then it kind of I think they should take out Kristen because she's so random or because she's smart and like she's smart and she's not like being entertaining on my show oh well that's the other thing girl get off my screen like so Kristen or Eric um but taking out Eric doesn't do anything for them yeah um take out Ron Eric is the type of person who would win because he's so boring if they save Ron it really makes him look like a traitor yeah that's another faithful because he's already been yeah he will not kill Ron thankfully for me um but like say that in the tour don't say it's random it's good yeah yeah no it's not unless like am I playing the game better than everyone maybe you would be good she doesn't like games cast me instead cast Claudia in traders yeah and you can use my original music you can license it for free how about that would you do traders um yeah the Scottish countryside is beautiful this time of year yeah yeah the show's huge and that's the other thing I think people realize like they saw it literally made a star out of so many people last season like Dylan F. Ron Gabby Wendy and I think people also are like that's maybe you think like a little Michael Rapoport too like you're trying to make an impression like this is almost like an audition yeah the thing about Michael Rapoport and you could say that about anyone what I like about Michael Rapoport is you actually can't say that about him he can't help but be himself yeah he's not putting on like he can't if he could he would sit back and shut up yeah but he can't yeah and that's interesting to watch yeah it's very authentic yes and that it is the year of authenticity you guys that is our show that's our traders recap we'll be recapping traders probably every Friday right it's one episode yeah yeah and Fridays feel like a good time love that unless we can get screeners then we can recap it on Thursdays no but then the people haven't seen it I know but that's what like people do no no it's not like you literally can't unless you release your episode at 10 p.m you can't you're spoiling it spoiling you can't I don't want to spoil thank you guys so much for listening to the Tell us the night morning show where we deliver the fast-dive stories eating dinner every Monday through Friday and YouTube's every Wednesday and YouTube's every Saturday because video thumbs up we're also available to podcast anywhere podcast can be found through that's Spotify I see your public video I every cast whatever you guys find out it's fantastic to sleep faster if you had a beautiful setting I know a wickedly talented we are hope you guys have an amazing Monday and we'll see you tomorrow love you bye leave a message about how beautiful we are in the comments nothing else