Support Your Village with Regina and Reina King

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What's going on? You know, excited. That to be here. Yes. With our guests that we will introduce at some point, I know we got to have some LA flavor for every day. I know it's really good. I got a whole lot of LA questions, because LA is a mystery to me, you know, I so it's always like, what, what does it mean to grow up here? But anyway, we'll get into that, but I'm happy that you're here, that we are together, that we are, and you are enjoying, but we haven't had dinner yet. I don't know, we, we got a busy schedule, so I don't even know if we'll get a chance to even chill for a bit. Yeah, I might have to whip something up at my Airbnb. Right. I don't, what do you think you're going to do? I don't know. We might have to go shopping and get some grocery. So you can't even say that with a straight face. Like look at you. But if I want to do that, go. You're not going to leave here right now and go through the grocery stores. No, no, because it's it's it's late, but I might I might do that before we leave. Okay. Yeah, yeah, but so is it a good high in kitchen in the place that you're staying? Is it a chef's kitchen kind of situation? No, no, it's not a chef's kitchen. It's a it's a regular kitchen, but it's got everything you need. And you know, these trips it's really hard because we put in a lot of time during the day to do a meal at night. But Aaron and I are enjoying the weather here and we're staying up later. So maybe we maybe we'll maybe whip something up. Well, anyway, we've got I can't we're so excited for our guest here. We've got siblings siblings, famous siblings who have done everything all over the place. I love these two and for a long time. Yeah, Rana and Regina Kings, sisters who are, you know, own Hollywood, own the industry, killing it on on so many levels. Yeah. Let me give them a proper introduction. Regina King is an Academy Award-winning actress and a director with a 40 year career widely regarded as one of Hollywood's most versatile and dynamic creators. She is also the founder of me and you, a wine label established in honor of her son, Ian. Rana King is an actress and producer who has worked in entertainment for decades, both in front of and behind the camera. As an actress, her credits include Scrooge and Shirley. Regina and Rana are sisters and co-founders of the production company Royal Ties. A company recognized for developing projects across genres with depth, range and cultural relevance. All right. So without further ado, Regina and Rana King. Come on in to the I'm O seen. Hi, y'all. Hi, hey, hey. Woo. Woo. And, man, he was a cute, uh, me, me, me, me, me, me, me. Okay, we gotta get one of them. Oh, especially with his basketball height. Yeah. Y'all are so short. I know. I know. That's what people say when they meet us. The can you put some heels on. You can't tell how tall we are when we're sitting. We have short torsos. Yeah. Like legs. So. Yeah. Actually, I have a short torso and long legs, but long short legs. Right. The long in relation. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you guys, thank you. Thank you for being here. Thank you, L.A. For having us. I don't like you now, L.A. Oh, man. Why don't I live here? I don't know. Yeah. Where are you from? In your life. I know. I gotta have that vitamin D. I mean, you heard me say, like, you know, we spend a lot of time in L.A. We record IMO here. Our daughters live here. Our higher ground productions are here. But it seems like everybody we meet are transplants. I mean, rarely do I meet people from L.A. And I, you know, I'm trying to get a sense. I'm still trying to get a sense of the city. Talk about what was it like? What is it like to grow up in L.A.? Does it, is it all Hollywood poem trees? No. No. Well, I also feel like, you know, there's L.A. is so big. Yes. It is. Yeah. So like when you talk about L.A. County, you have people that grew up in Santa Monica and that's their whole life and that's a whole different lifestyle than from us to grew up in Windsor Hills. That, you know, Windsor Hills and Baldwin Hills, you know, that's all adjacent. So yeah. All of those kids, all of those people have a similar lifestyle and you grew up and you heard the stories about Ray Charles lives over here. Yeah. I continue to turn her socialize with people. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you talk about, it sounded like the Windsor, what is Windsor Hills? Windsor Hills. Multi-income, mostly African-American. What was the vibe? I don't know what it is now. It's probably not. Mostly African-American now. Well, nothing. It's been gentrified. What are the people that lived in the house that we grew up in when you were doing the house and standing in the house? No, I went in knocked on the door. They didn't answer. Oh. Yeah. I don't know what they are. I don't know what they are. Yeah. Race they are. But I would say middle class and upper middle class. Yeah. We grew up predominantly black. Yeah. You know, there might have been one white woman on our street at the end of the block. No. Yeah, really. I mean, come on. Or you're going to see her, Mike. Did you know her name? Was it such and such? No. You didn't even know her name. Yeah. I don't know her name. In my mind, I keep thinking Miss Gert, but Miss Gert was my babysitter. No, Miss Gert was my babysitter. Her babysitter. Yeah. Was she older? She was an older woman. Yeah. She didn't like talk or interact much unless somebody was on her grass. Just trying to catch the whole ball. Just playing ball. Just rolled up here. We had it. We had to get it. Was it working class? I mean, did you know your neighbors? Did you grow up playing up in the streets? We had a lot of kids on our street. And, you know, wait, what happened to that? People don't go outside and play. Like, there's no, like, when's the last time you saw a kid with a kid playing in the cast on their arm. That's right. That's a good point. You know, everybody's all that you see. Yeah. Right. Yeah. No, we're scared of the outside. I mean, you know, like I remember when we were in Chicago, the girls growing up, we did grow up in a neighborhood where there were a lot of kids, but it is true. Nobody was just letting their kids go out to play. So I found that our girls didn't know the basic outdoor play games like how to jump double Dutch. Right. So me and my friends one day, we decided these little black girls, they have to know how to jump double Dutch. But so we organized, this is what mothers do because how you learn how to jump double Dutch is that you've got your rope you went outside, you found somebody to turn and a and a game happened. Yeah. Yeah. But the girls didn't even know where to begin. So we did it. The mothers and then we realized well, you know, that's why people aren't doing stuff. The mothers don't want it. The plan was to teach them so that they go outside. Okay. Right. The challenge. Did you all jump double Dutch growing up? Yeah. We did. We did. You know, the key to double Dutch is that you have to have two people that can turn. Yes. Well, that's why we didn't do it as often. Right. I don't think everyone on our block of the girls or even at school. Yeah. Because we play double Dutch jump double Dutch play double Dutch jump double Dutch at school. And you know, certain people like, oh, I can't stand where she turned. I know that we called it. She double handed. I don't know what that meant. But yeah, girls, you double handed. It means you can't turn. Yeah. You can't turn. Like not being on beat. That's where you got to turn. Like have like the super long rope or someone would wrap it around their back. Oh, yes. Oh, yeah. That's when you knew she did it. She knew what to do. Yeah. I read where you all put on your own little shows. Nobody's doing that either. What's that? Excuse me. There's a lot of my book. I have a book of plays. Yeah. And we used to put them on in the living room, right in front of the furniture that we weren't supposed to sit on. That we would sit on when mom wasn't on. That's right. Did it have plastic on it? They did not know. She had a best friend that had plastic on a blue couch. And she had blue. And for Christmas, she had a blue. He used to kind of freak me out. The tree, the blue Christmas paper. And oh, my God. There's a lot of. Flots. Flots. Oh, it was a bit much. Yeah. I just remember those summertime slide on that plastic or sticking the plastic or the plastic will wear out and there'd be a. And it's like, now this couch is dangerous. It's clean. But it's dangerous. Yeah. Deadly. I don't want to go on. I don't want to go on the couch. And how old were you then? Because I'm trying to figure out how early you all thought you're going to be actors. I don't think we really thought that we were going to be actors. You know, it was like, you can act like you somebody else. You can be something else. And we had been doing it all the time at home. We've been doing it. And I mean, the roller skating and someone's saw us. Yeah. And ask us if we would tell the story right now. Yeah. What do you mean, roller skating? And somebody asked you our. Our mom's friends with the blue couch. The boss. We love your cows. And we were at her house. We were roller skating. And this woman saw us that lives up the street. And that ended up being Betty Bridges, Todd Bridges mom. And say, you know, they should join, you know, my acting class. And that's kind of how it started. I don't even know. Right. First, she was like, was talking to us and you know, stranger danger. Yeah. Yeah. Right now. It's like, were you coming up to us? And then she told us to go get our mom. And Rain was like, mom, this lady outside of her talk to you. She had to give it all. It's detailed at the moment. Thank you. To keep it all the way. That's right. And see, so that's what you think about LA. You know, it's like you could be roller skating in your, your little matching outfits and all of a sudden, you know, you're on that. You're, you're, you're, you're, you're a badass. See, that's what. Yeah. The kids on South Side of Chicago think happens. We go up in the LA. And like, well, that's how you become a part of the Brady bunch. You got to live in LA. So what was going on with school at the time? I mean, were you still in school? We were still in public school. So like, basically, you have a set teacher. Yeah. Our mom was like, both, both studios wanted our mother to put us in studio. In school. And well, you, you go to studio school when you're shooting. Okay. But they want you to enroll in like a small school that I was like, home school. But yeah, that, that is familiar with this type of industry. Yeah. Entertainment. Yeah. Yeah. Great. Yeah. Mom was like, absolutely not. So if you want these girls, we don't figure it out. Yeah. And we both ended up having really great teachers. I really Kathy Cyrus was just absolutely amazing. And she, I wanted to take French. She started learning French. She, so just in the correspondence, they went up, she went up to the school to meet all of my teachers. Because by then, I was in high school. Yeah. And, um, and then when the season was over, be back. It's you were like, the head of the class. Oh, yeah. So I was causing heavy. Right. When I got back to right. It's like, I know it all. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. How was the, how did it feel coming out of that world being on TV and then going back into a normal high school life where you guys recognized, were you known as being those girls that, you know, yeah, I think people just knew that that's what we did done because I don't know how it is in Chicago. But you go to schools that are connected to your area. Yeah. So, yeah. You know, all of those kids I went to junior high school with, but part of them I went to elementary school with. So they had been seeing us. It wasn't new background work. Yeah. They wasn't new. Yeah. So they weren't tripping. No. It was, yeah, it was the opposite. Yeah. Literally the opposite. Like you couldn't wait to get back to kind of the public school. That kind of friend group. It was much harder for me. I was happening now because I was the only child on the show. Oh, yeah. You know, there were no siblings. There were no people in the building. So it was just me and the set teacher. Yeah. So we used to bump here. Okay. What's the story? Who had to get called? Who told off who? Yeah, my mom got called. I think I was because it's just me and this one adult. And there's no other person to kind of bounce anything off of. So I found myself like challenging her. Yeah. I learned a little French too. But so it was that was tough. So for me, it was a big yearning to get back to school where there are more kids like any show where there may have been two or three kids. Like let me go to that one. Right. Oh, wow. And on set today with the set teacher. So I was really excited to get back to the regular swing of things. And I was coming back further ahead. Then it was fifth grade for me because I was 10. And I was further ahead. The way they were. Wow. And you guys are for you support for you. Have you always been close? Yeah. I'm right. Well, it's like now we're like that was right on track. I think we've always been close, but we've it took me when I moved out the house, the when our relationship started becoming like my other half. But I think it's it was we've always been close. Like I can talk about my sister, but you can't talk about my sister. You know, like that's always been and we always played together. We always remember we just played males diner. It's the mud. Yeah. Because I was younger that, you know, she didn't want me around. Yeah. I'm getting on her nerve. Yeah. She would just go back and I'm like, I'm not going anywhere. Yeah. And I'm keeping up. Keep it up. I mean, this is the younger sibling. And I see it with our two daughters. It was like Malia and Sasha three years apart. They've always been close. But you that three year difference feels like a chasm. Yeah. That's so your older. But Sasha, like me, I was always going to keep up. You know, you were not leaving me behind. But I was I was inclusive with her. It wasn't like, oh, no, you can't come with me. I was like, well, come on in. Yeah. And it would be we playing baseball. We're playing running bases, hide and seek, whatever it was. If she wanted to go, she could come. But do you think part of that is because you guys are brother and sister. I do. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Um, I, you know, there's just and well, because our spaces could be separate. Like I could come along, but I didn't always want to come along because it was like, okay, it's a bunch of crusty boys. Maybe I want to play with my dolls over here. But with my daughters, it was like they were pretty much on par in terms of what their interests were and the friend group of girls, you know, they were just all running as a pack. And so little sister was going to, you know, it's like I can do this. So in that respect, I think Sasha grew up faster. Just by keeping up, you know, she had to, she, even though she wasn't there yet, she, she was going to be there. Yeah. And without the emotional tools, you know, necessarily. Right. But I think you're literally explaining our dynamic. Yeah. Yeah. Right. And a group of faster, definitely, yeah, definitely. Like she thought she was, she knew she was grown. And now yeah, I was able to spread that, spread my wings with that more when she wasn't around. Yes. So by the time I got to high school, I was like, hmm. Like you can't tell me anything. These youngers don't know. Yeah. Yeah. These other 15-year-olds. Yeah. I've been around for a while. Yeah. Yeah. These children. Oh my god. I've seen some things. Bring me a drink. Yeah. Oh, my god. I have been traveling a ton between my IMO recordings and my day job at the National Association of Basketball Coaches, as well as my kids teams. This travel has afforded me the opportunity to visit some new places and meet some new people. And last year's travel was so good. I've actually been able to enjoy my time on the road. 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Did it, you know, because there's also the shadow of the older one, because I would also tell Malia, you grew up unshadowed. You grew up and everything you did because you were performing for us was wonderful. And it's like, wow, say more. Oh, look at what you've done. That's so smart. You can read now, right? Well, the younger sister has the older sister going, you can't read yet. It's like, that's not how you say that. Let me just do it. Let me just do it. Let me, you know, and so I would have to explain to her, do not step on my other child. I love you both, but you cannot try to parent her because you don't know what you're doing. You are not wrong. You're seven. You know, you don't know what's happening, but I saw Sasha come into her own as Malia, you know, moved on. So it was like that tree, you know, moved away. And so the light got to the younger one. Did you feel that way? I think so. Yeah, I definitely. It was when she moved out. I mean, it really was that was, I'm running this house now. I've got, you know, it was, I definitely did come into my own. I felt like I had the space and not thinking about it then, but things that I actually had learned from her. And now I can exercise that in my own world, amongst my own group of friends. Without somebody judging, without someone going, that's not how you do it. Yeah, yeah, that's how you do it. Exactly. The idea when she moved out and having, then she also her apartment became kind of a space that was then on this next level still learning and ensuring and still able to experience it with her. So yeah, that's and she had a car. Uh-huh. Yeah. I mean, there was a first there, right? Because she moved out pretty young. She was 17. Okay. Talk about, talk about that. What precipitated the the moves. I was ready. Yeah. She was ready. Nobody, nobody else's dishes. Well, yeah, you know, I was, um, that's, I mean, quite literally, you know, like I got all day doing my own thing and then come back home and I got to watch day dishes. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Oh, so, um, and you had an income from your exactly exactly. And yeah, so I was like, so mom, I'm moving out. Mm-hmm. I'm getting a tattoo. Oh, those, you just, I mean, like that. Yeah. Just blam, blam, blam. She's been saying no tattoo, no tattoo. I don't know why you want to mark pretty skin, no tattoo. And, um, I'd graduated high school, you know, so how did that conversation go over? What did mom say? And was you in the other room, Raina? Listening? I'm sure. I was. Because, right. No, yeah. I'm sure. Raina's always. Right. Wow. I don't ever remember any pushback because I really did not want to go to college. And I applied because my mom's a teacher and said, just wasn't gonna have you. That was happening. Right. Right. Right. And I got in. So there was nothing, you know, um, I'm working. I'm going to USC. Yeah. I don't want to watch dishes. Yeah. Why should I have to watch dishes? And she was like, all right. And she, she, she couldn't really have that conversation. How are you going to take care of yourself? How you going to be? Right. Right. Well, I have with the income. Yeah. So then, she said, it was cancel. Regina, who, who apologizes more? You are her. You all get into it. I'm just going to keep looking at you. You think you apologize more? You think you. I don't. I think you apologize more. You do? Uh-huh. I was actually going to say the same. Oh, well. Okay. Because I feel like we, we're so sensitive to each other because like, they're, it's just hard to even just imagine doing anything without her. So when we know that we've disappointed each other, it just, it's an unspoken apology. I think that's not really. We both kind of, I'm sorry. It's not really those words. It's, it's, it's the gesture. It's the gesture. And we do sometimes you, you'll call or I'll call them, like, you know, when I did, I did, I did, I did, I go, oh, Regina, advice versus. That's true. Yeah. I think we had a moment like that. Not too long ago. That's why I was like, why do you look the other way? Yeah. Yeah. I guess it is, it is a balance. Yeah. It's a, it's a balance with us with so much and so thankful to have that because a lot of siblings. Yeah. I'm sure you guys have heard. I mean, we talked to sisters and sister and brothers and they don't get along with their siblings in that way. So I feel blessed. Yes. To have a other way. Yeah. Yeah. So little poem about it in high school. Oh, really? Do we have the poem? Does it still top of mind? I'm in. I was the book. I don't know. I had the book and I didn't I bring it to you. Remember I took a picture. So you did a book of poems or school? Okay. Oh, my memories. To the book. Yeah. A book of poems. And the different students. And I'm trying to think we're great. I was in with a seven. No, I was older than that. I think it was like ninth grade. I want to say. Okay. I'm wrong. All right. I'm sorry. I'm wrong. I'm moving on. For Jesus class and and it was it was eighth or it was seven or eight. Great. But they had all the students do poems and they compiled a book. And my point was called my other half. And it still I still have the book. She still had it. And I didn't know she had a month ago. Yeah. That's a I thought that was packed up. Disappeared somewhere like with the yearbooks that you don't want anyone to see. But I would say those words that I spoke in that poem then are very much still fitting. And still of the time and of the moment of what we are. So what do you what do you think it was that your mother did to foster it? Because yeah, I think a lot of time sibling rivalry is coming from somewhere, right? Because I think it's so easy to unintentionally as a parent pit one against the other. Mm-hmm. Just because of lack of awareness or you know, one child might be technically easier on that parent than the other because personalities, you know, parents are people too. And if you have more than one kid, you may click in a different way with the other. And if that's the case, maybe some of that, you know, sprinkles out. Yeah. So I just wonder if there's anything you say. Yeah. I mean, yeah. We were going to you may not want to, but you're going to your sister's recital or this thing. We were she was always making sure we were situations that we had to do things together. So in addition to always, I like I used to feel like Raina got away with everything. But says the lady to my right. But I feel like my mom really made sure that she treated us individually different. Like I didn't feel like I was treated like Raina and Raina didn't feel like she saw you both really like your like our punishments were different. You didn't have the right punishment. Is she? What was the race? Oh, I like to tell the story. You were doing us were probably already now the right story. I, yes, because Rana is probably not telling all it all. Yes, that's the reason why I said I look because I don't want you to have the revision in history. So we shared a room. Mm-hmm. And Raina is clean. Raina is messy. Okay. And so we kept getting. Well, you know, you're a little bit more old. Yeah. Yeah. No, I'm talking about his kids. Your clean. You're not dirty and messy. That was he's better. He's better. I'm back in the government. That's a back in the government. And we kept getting in trouble for having a messy room. Yeah. And it wasn't my stuff. And I'd be like, Mom, it is not my stuff. I am cleaning it up my side. And I'm kicking. Then I started kicking it to her side of the room. So you see the difference. So finally, my mom was like, all right, every piece of, if you don't have this room cleaned up by whatever time it was, everything that I pick up, you get two licks. Because you know, that's when you know, weapons. Yeah. And it came out to like 92. She needs to give two licks. It was a no. Yeah. And you got to the 90s. Yeah. It was like, what were we doing? Like I'd you say, where was Raina? So I'm in the room. And she's counting. I was like, whoa. Now I feel bad. Like I just got. And so, um, she started proceeding with the spanking. And I guess my mom got tired. I ran. Raina got tired. My mom was like, okay, you can nail. She, my mother had read that in China, they discipline their kids by kneeling on rice. Yeah. So she said, you can kneel on rice for 10 minutes or we take a break and you get the rest of these licks. That's commitment to the law. And Raina was like, I think the right. I think the right now was like, I just knew I was like, if only I knew, how should I just got the right. Yeah. I might still have rice in prints in my I feel so bad for you. Oh my god. Did you with my mother research and you know, I mean, it's like that teacher. Yeah. I can do good stuff. I don't work. Right. So did it, was it effective? Did you cling up your Yes. I did. I did once I could walk. Okay. Yes. So now you all have been in this business for so long. I'd like to hear from you. What are some of your favorite projects that you've worked on? Can you say that or is it too hard? Oh no. I want to hear that. Please say, please say. You're not. As the actors or as producers or director because it's it's a it's there. I like to hear the whole game. Yes. I'd like to hear the whole game. I always say my favorite project is the one I'm working on now because we've been blessed to have done so much that some things I don't even remember. Yeah. You know, so it is tough to I can tell you the things that people the most talk to me about that they've loved is Boondocks. You know, that's like course at the top watchman. Yeah. That is Barack Obama's favorite. Is it really? It is. Yes. Wow. He loves that. And I guess somewhere between 227 boys in the hood and then Jerry McGuire. What about you, Raina? It would be Scrooge. Just because I mean Richard Donner, the director, Bill, those were like, that was a mountain and Alfie Wooder that was Carol Kane. I mean, it was a master class, like I said, for a very young girl, Richard Donner. So I have a thing with socks. Okay. I love socks. And I like. Okay. All right. If we had no 365 really, how many socks do you own? I have a lot. Okay. I had to buy or online these little square boxes. Oh, yeah. Like, you know, 24, like, compartments and their stats. I've got short ones, long ones, thick ones, Enkelids. I love taking new ones out of the package. And I got that from Richard Donner. Oh my gosh. He always had on a new pair of socks. And he would donate like, because he wear socks one pair, you know, wear one pair of socks once. And donated and I'm like, I want to be like, I just want a different. I'm going to have a sock collection. Exactly. And you didn't want cars. Raina didn't want cars. She wanted socks. And it's like, and it sucks. Yeah. When I watch socks, I'll look at her. I'm like, yes, just tie. Yeah. Well, yes. You know, if you, if I get three wears out of a sock, it's like, no, no, no, we were done onto the next. I find other uses. Yeah. The use them like the dust, the dust, the windowsills, you know, rags. I actually that new sock smell. Nothing like it. Nothing like coming. That sounded. I mean, but it is all right. So when it arrives, you just like, yeah, exactly. I made it exactly. So yeah, I would say as actress would be and to sleep with anger just because Danny Glover, that was a bit of a master class too. And then as a producer, that's hard. I would just surely only because of something that we had been fighting to do for a decade. You know, January always feels like that moment to hit reset to finally stop saying maybe one day and actually start becoming who you're meant to be. 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Here at IMO we also like to take a listener question to give our humble opinions on and the one we have here is particularly ripe for that sibling dynamic we've been talking about hello Michelle and Craig I'd love your advice I want to build a better relationship with my younger sister but we're 27 years apart in age just 10 and have a six year old who is one of her best friends I feel lucky that I grew up with my older brother we had that typical sibling relationship and he's been the one constant process in my life I want my sister to have that same sense of connection but it's harder for her because everyone around her is older and those who are closer in age to her are really her nieces and nephews we're also very different when I was her age I was more of a tomboy looking up to my brother was this girly love makeup and it's already on social media the tricky part is my dad and stepmom are older so they don't really know how to set limits for example they let her joint talk with no parental controls and it's hard to even explain those things to them sometimes my brother and I tried to guide them but I don't want to cross the line into parenting her myself so my question is how do I build a stronger sister relationship with her while still respecting boundaries and not slipping into that parent role 27 27 years well Helen I think that should be sale I mean if I'm being completely honest I mean 27 years I mean that's that I think that the best you can do is remember that relationship and those things between her and her brother that those sibling things and try to encourage that with her son and her sister because they're four years apart so they actually are more like siblings I just don't think that you should be trying to be the sister I mean you are the big sister but you are in so many and I mean Craig and I can attest to this in a lot of ways even when you are the eldest you do have some moments where you are kind of like not the parent but you're making the decision for both of y'all you know and so I just don't know that it's actually possible to try to not feel that bit of parental responsibility with a sibling this 27 years younger but you can try you can try you can be sympathetic to it you can be sympathetic but you know what are those things she said 10 years old I think 10 years old she's 10 years old yeah so yeah I was gonna say what those things that a 10 or 11 year old are into or might want to do and experience how you can experience that with them and more of a sisterly fashion opposed to a motherly fashion I think maybe also a conversation with her parents or their parents you really is is necessary because she's being 37 is sounds like from which Helen said she's that she's much more aware of the dangers of being exposed on line in a way that in a way don't set it under a stand no don't think of yourself as a sister don't think of yourself as a mother think of yourself more of the auntie that middle ground because the auntie is the auntie helps what do y'all think well I was gonna have you start because you actually have kids with a pretty broad age range yeah but it's 16 and uh 30 yeah well what what so it's 13 and 30 32 my oldest to my youngest yeah so that's why I'm like but you're in it yeah I'm in it but you're the old parents the interesting thing with my kids are my younger kids have always viewed their older siblings as siblings even though they were 16-ish years older they've always viewed them as siblings even now as adults they are siblings they treat each other like siblings and it's a real cool dynamic so the older ones never had to sort of be the parents because we were the parents so they could take on that sibling role so and and believe me I have used the older kids to get certain messages across to the younger kids because as as you all know it you get tired here in the same voice over and over yeah yeah and my wife and I they're tired of hearing us over and over again so every now and then we'll be like hey talk to your little brothers the same message change the voice just change the voice and and surprisingly it can be more effective so did your kids spend time in the house together so our really our daughter who is 29 was in high school was just going in the high school when our two younger ones were born so they spent some time now the older one had gone away to prep school and then the college so he didn't spend much time in the house with them but our daughter did and as a result those two always viewed her as the conquering hero of the family it's really it's been really interesting and she was a basketball player so well so every was too but they never got to see how they play right so but they had those common interests which Helen is saying they don't they don't have she has no connection other than never lived together yeah yeah so it just feels hard it feels forced that's what the word I think I was that was going to write down it feel you don't want it to feel forced because it won't work for either one especially the 10-year-old I think this is where you know the the the the typical family construct the titles the names they don't apply all right so biologically yes you were sisters um but I think it Helen would be helped if she thought about the village right um and that she is a part of the village and what does it matter what you're called you're a part of the village right because it takes a village and you know um in our uh family we had aunts and uncles that were 10 years older than us right they were the younger siblings of our father and and they are 10 12 years older than us they felt like brothers and sisters when we were younger right it didn't really matter what the title was there you know it's the thinking about everybody circling as a village to support the kid right right and that that the relationship has to look a certain way yeah like you're right the ship is sailed on a sisterly relationship between a 37-year-old and a 10-year-old right you're you've had different experiences different you know you have you know you're not sitting and coloring you're not you know and that's okay I do feel like one of the things that's really cool in Helen's situation is that she has a six-year-old and you know I'm guessing we don't hear we don't we didn't get the breakdown of their entire family dynamic but it sounds like the 10-year-old is the last child of um the parents and um and we don't know whether it's a step parents of a step what they are what you know what it is right but a six-year-old 10-year-old aunt yeah but it's kind of cool yeah that is like a sister you know what I mean and um um I think that there's a blessing in that you know in in in having um and especially you know being a girl you like being the big sister giving her opportunities to feel like she's the she's not the baby she's the you know I don't know again I don't know they're dynamic yeah I think that makes sense it's like you know thinking about things like instead of her Helen trying to force the relationship it's like what ways can you integrate your younger sister into your life that makes sense that isn't because you can't come in with a place of I'm gonna tell you about yourself like you you can't come in as the parent right and so that should free hell enough to be like well maybe I'll just be someone in her life that she knows and trusts right if she's thinking along those lines that takes the burden off of let me fix this if she can just get to the place where her little sister enjoys her right you know whatever you're focused on right now work family big goals there's never a perfect time to feel your best there's just right now AG1 has honestly been the easiest most impactful habit I've added this year real sustainable health isn't about perfection it's about consistency and AG1 keeps it simple multivitamin pre-improbiotics superfoods antioxidants all in one scoop and AG1 is the opposite of complicated 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I'm right I'm on one more thing because we wanted to talk about me and you yeah so special on so many different levels and so in preparation to talk about me and you I went online to order myself some orange wine and the bad news is the sold out but the good news is it was sold out yes that's great fantastic but we were able to track something down we're gonna do our own oh me and you look what we got we got the Sarah we got the Sarah this is it yeah this is a new strategy so this is so you we we have never had wine on IMO so I want you to tell us about being you and then we will toast yeah okay um thank you first of all we got tissue right here my and that's what I'm trying to do yeah I'm okay that close yeah I mean this I've never gotten a chance to say um I want to say publicly to Malia and Sasha for being great friends and Ian's you know we didn't even know we did our we did no friends no when you know cook and dinner and yeah he's telling me he's cooking dinner from Sasha I think first it was yeah and so I'm just thinking as some girl and so this feels like a beautiful to be able to be sharing a bottle of Ian's wine with with with you and my sister this came from just trying to find ways to you hear people talk about what their kids are doing and you know Ian and I our memories kind of stopped for a bit and so trying to find ways to create new memories with Ian and Ian would introduce me to so many things and one thing and Malia and Sasha will tell you this when Ian discover something he wants to share it and he wants to tell you all about you know with just everything and you you may not even like it but you'd be like you know what it means like this might be something here yeah and um it kind of came to me that Ian we're gonna we're gonna make a wine and so this journey started from him introducing me to orange wine um I remember the moment at a restaurant called Kismet how about that and um it you know to shorten the story we came up with this label from I was going through some one of his journals and trying to find what just trying to find little messages from him you know and saw this little M that he had drawn real small and I was like that him you should be the M from me and you and so that M is the beginning of that so I had an artist who is an amazing artist who created the album covers for Fleetwood Mac the thriller album cover so I know that was Ian like yeah yeah look who's doing my like and um he created a font from Ian's um and so that's how he landed there because Ian is an artist and all different modalities and so it felt like I wanted it to be a canvas and that's how we came up with the brushstroke and splatters because a lot of his artwork has him splatters he liked to do that on his art and so I'm set up to make a long story short no take your time this is wonderful a long story long story longer it's a long it should be a long story yeah yeah and the orange wine sold out and I don't know what I was expecting but um I knew that okay well we need to continue on and how do you continue in this social space knowing that I'm gonna we're gonna make more wine but it takes time wine takes time you know you can't brush those grapes that's the beauty of wine and so I came across this sarah it tasted the sarah my wine maker let me taste it in um I tasted it for the first time with rena and I was kind of concerned like you know people know this brand so far with the orange wine we still haven't reached everyone but the sarah is really beautiful and rena was like my nephew would want this yeah and so we ended up doing a holiday release and it kind of serves as a way for us to have in um as a um a embodiment of some ways of of all of those joyous things about in during the holidays so felt appropriate for the sarah to come out during the holidays um you know melian sasha met in at sort of the beginning of their lives here in la um you know and it's a scary time for a mother to send your kids off I was grateful that they were living together um but you know when you know your your children are in a place in a new places when they have community you know and and our girls are good community builders but you don't know I mean they're who they are and it's LA and who are these people um and the and your son your nephew was that first bright light of connection for them here um they spoke to us so uh glowingly about all the things that you know that are special about him you know his creative mind his openness you know the way he makes people feel special and seeing um I want to I think we talk briefly um in uh in and at the c a conference you know but we were in the middle of a thing and I just wanted to you know tell you that his spirit is here with us I know you all feel it you know we feel it I didn't get a chance to meet him but I feel like I'm meeting him yeah all the time yeah um and I just I'm grateful to you for raising a young man that provided that space for my girls thank you um and we are honored to love that uh to toast to Ian to Ian to to community and I'm a sisterhood to sisterhood to brotherhood um this is uh this has been a beautiful conversation you guys thank you know you are amazing thank you um and everybody thank you really me and you let's say let's let us hold on we'll let you know I am old to me and you this is oh I love a red oh yeah thank you thanks so much for being to talk to you guys oh yeah you know I mean we're building family here yeah it's like you know we going we're just gonna keep crossing paths yeah we were we were we were we are intertwined I mean we were we were as we're crossing before we even knew that they were that's right you know with the the the the things the spirit that are the most near and dear to us we're connecting us cheering