The Carpool with Kelly and Lizz

JUDGING THE INTERNET'S NEW MOM CARS

51 min
Jan 23, 20264 months ago
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Summary

Kelly and Liz discuss judging mom car purchases from viral videos, analyzing real examples of family vehicle decisions and critiquing influencer car content. They also explore productivity redefinition for parents, ChatGPT's new advertising model, and share freezer-cleaning dinner recipes.

Insights
  • Influencers promoting expensive vehicles ($50K-$80K+) have significant purchasing power over audiences and should be cautious about blanket claims without full context or comparisons
  • Family car forecasting is critical—buying for potential future children prevents multiple vehicle purchases and unnecessary consumption cycles
  • Parenting tasks (reading, playing, comforting children) should be reframed as productive rather than lazy, shifting mindset around work-life balance
  • Podcast monetization remains challenging even for established creators; most don't profit significantly despite audience size and engagement
  • Targeted advertising in free AI tools is acceptable to consumers when clearly labeled and relevant, following the Google model
Trends
Mom influencer car content drives high engagement but often lacks research depth and vehicle comparisonLuxury SUV/full-size vehicle preference among young families with one child, driven by forecasting for future expansionInfluencer partnerships with automotive brands (first-drive events) lack transparency around compensation and may influence purchasing decisionsPodcast production economics favor multi-platform creators; single-platform podcasters struggle with monetization ROIAI monetization shifting from pure subscription to hybrid ad-supported models to reach broader user bases and fund infrastructureParental productivity metrics evolving to include childcare and development activities, not just traditional work outputFreezer inventory management and meal planning becoming content-worthy as families optimize post-holiday spending
Topics
Mom car purchasing decisions and vehicle selection criteriaInfluencer marketing ethics in automotive industryFamily vehicle forecasting and long-term planningPodcast monetization strategies and economicsChatGPT advertising model and AI platform revenueParental productivity redefinition and mindset shiftsFreezer meal planning and budget optimizationMaternity clothing and pregnancy fashion challengesConsignment shopping and sustainable consumptionLuxury vehicle comparisons (Lexus, Nissan, Toyota, Ford)First-drive event influencer partnershipsSkincare routines during pregnancyPodcast production challenges for small teamsBaked chicken cutlet cooking techniquesMaternal isolation and support systems
Companies
OpenAI
Announced testing ads in ChatGPT free version and new $8/month Go tier to increase revenue and fund AI infrastructure...
Chevrolet
Suburban High Country model discussed as purchase choice for new mom with one child planning future family expansion
Lexus
GX 550 criticized as poor choice for family with three booster-aged children due to limited third-row space
Hyundai
2026 Palisade with captain's chairs discussed as free partnership vehicle for influencer with three under three children
Nissan
Armada featured in first-drive influencer event; criticized for influencers making blanket claims without vehicle com...
Toyota
Sequoia compared favorably to Nissan Armada as superior choice for families despite styling differences
Ford
Mentioned as brand hosts first-drive events where hosts engage with design teams for authentic content creation
Land Rover
Defender suggested as better alternative to Lexus GX 550 for family vehicle needs
Mercedes-Benz
SUV model flipped off by influencer in viral video before purchasing Chevy Suburban, sparking consumption criticism
Amazon
Furniture purchase resulted in poor quality product; discussed challenges with online shopping accuracy and returns
The Loft
Retail store credited with providing well-fitting, mature clothing options during postpartum body recovery period
Trader Joe's
Mentioned for gyoza products used in creative dinner repurposing with Japanese barbecue sauce
Google
Advertising model referenced as acceptable precedent for targeted ads in free services like ChatGPT
People
Sam Altman
OpenAI CEO who previously expressed reservations about ads but now implementing them; expects $20B annual revenue by ...
Dave Franco
Actor in Colleen Hoover adaptation 'Ugly Love'; discussed as appearing in different role than typical comedic perform...
Quotes
"Being a podcaster is talking about nothing in an entertaining way. I don't know how else to explain that to you."
KellyMid-episode
"I would never promote a brand where I feel like your child's life is at stake. And I'm not trying to say that dramatically at all."
KellyIndustry news segment
"How sad is it that we don't see feeding our kids, playing with our kids, reading our kids a book as a productive thing to do?"
LizProductivity discussion
"The time you have with your kids is going somewhere. The time that you have them at home to pour into them is not forever."
LizProductivity segment
"I am so good at knowing what car people should buy. I mean, I do this for a living."
KellyCar shopping discussion
Full Transcript
Welcome to the Carpool Podcast with Kelly. I thought it would be like, I'm like, take a beer, go to the garage, I'll watch the kids and like tinker with your wrench. Like I thought that sounded fun to him. And Liz. And you to just like show up on the podcast looking like really cute and snatched next to me is just kind of toxic. Your mom time all starts now. Welcome back to the Carpool Podcast with Kelly and Liz. Hey everyone, happy Friday. Happy Friday. We're having some technical difficulties and like it's like I don't even know like the technology is just family us today. Like we're doing everything like we're supposed to buy the books and our platforms just like no, thanks. It's like contact support and I'm like, what? It's like you contact support. What is the talent? What is talent? We're just, it's so hard to be a two-woman show on this podcast, three-woman show because we have someone who edits our podcast, but we're just three women trying to put together a podcast trying to scrap together at the end of the week. It's hard. It's crazy. Some podcasters literally will have like a legit set like multiple people there like monetary and like making sure your audio sounds good. Meanwhile, we're like, well they have to be bleeding cash. Let me tell you something. They have to be bleeding cash. I mean, but a lot of people don't do a podcast for the money. Not even saying we do it, but like some people, well, we kind of do. Some people only do a podcast to promote their other things. I would say in a lot of ways we're not doing a podcast for the money when you think about the money that is made off of the podcast. So I would say we may be falling to that camp, but I'm not trying to lose money on it. That's for sure. I'm just trying to be in the green. Just trying to be in the green. Don't care what that green is. It's so funny. Anyway, it's just a very interesting thing about podcasts. Like it's when it's where it's so easy to make money on TikTok, Instagram, like there's a million ways to monetize those platforms. Literally anyone can do it. The pastors were two professional podcasters scratching the green. Right? It's crazy. Yeah, no, it's yeah, whatever our problems, not yours. Something speaking of more of my problems, though, you're like really pissing me off. Totally. So Kelly in January, not a challenge. She is not wearing like leggings or like sweatpants or whatever. She's only wearing something that can like button and zip. Yeah. And I'm at the stage of my pregnancy where maternity clothes don't fit, but like my regular clothes are also like really uncomfortable. So I kind of exclusively need to wear like leggings and sweatpants and stuff. And you to just like show up on the podcast, looking like really cute and snatched next to me is just kind of toxic. And our first two pregnancies, my first two pregnancies, we were pregnant together. So I didn't have this problem. And I'm just curious how you sleep at night. Well, first things first, I looked like a train rack on Monday's episode, Wednesday's episode. I was doing the Olsen talk into a Detroit lion's hoodie. So like, yeah, you say that, but you're like, I'm low key. Like look, effortlessly beautiful without makeup on. Well, that's the Botox, which is something that you can't participate in right now. I did just get retoxed. And it had been like seven months because after my allergic reaction, I just like had to chill on everything. So I am looking snatched in the forehead. I am up in my skincare routine. Yeah, I'm wearing pants with buttons. I mean, pregnancy is so crazy because I have to like scale down my skincare routine. So I can't like do any of the things that like make me like glow a little bit. No, you know, it's a swash and moisturizer. It's so annoying. Well, and I'll just say like, I have no sympathy at all. Like I'm actually, I'm just letting you know that because if you were calling 2019, when I got pregnant with George, what were you doing in 2019? I was living in Texas. I wasn't anywhere near you. I was giving you space. You came home from the holidays. And when I was pregnant with Hattie, what were you doing? Yeah, I was living. I had to go through two pregnancies by myself looking cute until I wasn't. And the pregnancy, I mean, it's going to be the postpartum where you're really going to feel isolated from me. But you will get back there. And I just remember like I had to do two alone and now you have to do this one alone. And you know, I'll be like, no, you look cute. Sorry. Do you remember? Do you remember the day the day you know it started down? Yeah. So I, George was born in May. And I was so at the time, I was so unprepared for the fact that like, I guess I thought after I gave birth, my old clothes would fit. Like I have no idea what I was thinking. First time parents, they're so cute. They're so cute. They're adorable. Yeah, they're adorable. So I had like these, you know, pregnancy clothes. And then George was born and I realized I had nothing to wear. Like nothing. And I was like, oh, like I guess they forgot about like postpartum clothes. So mom trying to serve me in any way she could went to Coles. Okay. She spent like $400 and was like, I just bought you a ton of stuff, like try some stuff on and then like we'll return whatever doesn't fit. Elizabeth came over to watch me try on these clothes. I was what, like probably two weeks postpartum? Super fresh. And you know, I'm not shy. So I was like getting, I was like changing in front of her and the look on her face was like so. No, none of the clothes look, no, none of the clothes were good. Like I feel like you and I would have a hard time going to Coles on our best day and finding like a bunch of stuff that fits. Like pants, shorts, like the shorts were too short and they weren't, they weren't fitting in the right way. And I was just like, this is not working. And it was like, it was jarring for sure. You just saw my body and like, and not, and just in just a crazy way. And like I had just always, I was, I really, I honestly had some body image issues after that after going postpartum because like when you're pregnant, it's just like, you know what you're doing. And then afterwards, it's like, it's not a matter of the weight. It's just like your body forever looks different after that. It's just the composition, like things are not where they used to be. That was a really hard summer for me. But that's, you know what, that summer brought me. That's the summer I discovered the loft like in a major way. Oh, it totally was, yeah. I know. And like thank you loft because one thing I love about the loft is I'm a size four at the loft, Lolls, like the only place in the world. I'm a small size four at loft. Thank you loft. That feels good. For your made up numbers, that are not true. Uh-huh. Um, and the, you know, the clothes are just a little longer, a little bit more mature because I was still trying to get with my sisters like shopping at Paxon in forever 21. Yeah. And then I finally discovered loft and the second part of my life started. And you guys all gave me so much crap for my loft obsession. And now you're a loft shopper. Um, yeah, I don't think I think you have such, again, we've talked about the, the crap. I'm using air quotes that I gave you for loft and we revisited this and we realized it was mom. I would never give you crap for shopping a loft. I actually do not care where you shop at all. I don't care where anyone shops. One of the things I don't care about that mom for some reason was thought that the loft was too mature for you. She has pre-conceived notions. Yeah. So, um, so all to say, yeah, so we're going out to lunch today with mom and like you look so cute and like I'm, I am in my dress to the best I possibly can in the winter. Um, and I have like a spank set on, sweat set on and I'm like, this is the best you're going to get for me. Yeah. And that's finalism. And I'm happy. I, one thing on me, I'm not going to say a thing. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. It is a really tough. It's one of the hardest parts about the first trimester. It's like when your clothes just don't fit and you're not bumping yet. Yeah. And I think that is the good part about like your subsequent pregnancies because you start bumping a lot earlier. True. So you can just kind of like slide into the bump phase a little bit sooner. Yeah, but like all my maternity clothes are summer. So I'm like waiting for me to be able to wear a dress and then I'm in, I'm set. But okay, whatever. This is not anyone else's problem except for my own. No, it's not. Um, anyways, aside from that, yes, we are going to lunch with mom today. And our mom just like randomly asked us. She's like, I need to take you guys to this lunch spot. And we're like, okay, she's like, when are you free? Does Wednesday or Thursday work? Like she's trying to go on the calendar. I thought it was like a casual thing to say in passing. Like, oh yeah, we'll let you know next time we're free. She's like, no, this week, when can you go? I'm like, what's her texture? I have to take care. First of all, it's 53 minutes from my house. I just put it in my maps. Butter be good. Wow, that's kind of par for the course for you though. Yeah, no, but like 37, 42, like I'm used to driving that far. One third of 50 in front of it. So we don't want to, I'm an hour away. Luckily, I'm like so behind on my book on tapes. Like I have to, I need to get an hour under that. Anyway, she's taking us to a fa. That's PHO, place, which I've never had fa. I think it's kind of like ramen noodles. That's my understanding. I think a little bit more brothy, a little less nudily. And that's where we're going. She says we have to have fa. Well, I can't wait to have fa and fun. But before we do that, we are going to get in episode in today. Yeah, we are. And we have actually, I have like actually prepared something for today's episode that I'm really excited about. Are we just getting right into that or do we want to do? Do you have something you want to, do you have something? Oh, you know what? I watched another movie last night. Oh, I watched your grudding you, which was like a Colleen Hoover book. And then they made into a movie. Sure. You know, I realized that I am 31 when like the teenage romance, I want absolutely nothing to do with. But there's a parent's romance going on at the same time. And I'm like skipping the scenes to get through the kids, to get through the teenagers. I can't watch it. So old. We're literally so old. Grenad, the adult, the grown up male leading man was Dave Franco. So you know, I haven't thought about Dave Franco in forever. Normally, he was really nice to see him in such a different role. Normally, he's in like such funny roles. But anyway, the movie was okay. It was a little bit inseparable. Again, the teenagers were like, made no sense. But it was on, what was it on Paramount, I think? Just trying to do anything I can to not watch Traders yet. I missed Dave Franco. What was he in? He was in, he was in, 21 drums. 21 drums. That's what I was thinking of. Okay, well, so I'm not going to add that. I do so in these watch that people would meet on vacation. And Traders come out yesterday. So I'm excited to have had watched that by the time you guys listen to this podcast. I am kind of in the doghouse with my husband right now because I bought a piece of furniture of Amazon and it was the ugly, I've never seen it in my life. That's tough. And I made him put it together. That's tough. And he did not enjoy putting it together. I thought it would be like, I'm like, take a beer, go to the garage, I'll watch the kids and like tinker with your wrench. Like I thought that sounded fun to him. It's like Legos. It's like Legos. Like excuse me. Like I was making a wonderful chicken surf ride whilst watching the kids and I gave you a loan time. I'm sorry, if you can have fun there, you just can't have fun. Anyway, he built it and I was like, I looked at it and he like could tell my face I didn't like it. He's like, are you serious? I'm like, it's horrible. Yeah. And I feel so duped by Amazon because it was like, it's not the same color and it, the picture just wore, it just, it wasn't an acuralisting at all. So I have to get rid of it. I'm trying to like, recoup my investment a little bit. Like I tried to list it for like a hundred bucks. I bought it for 130, which I mean, it wasn't like a giant investment. And I thought I would be able to just use it as like a placeholder more, but like it's too ugly to even be used as a placeholder. Like it sucks. It sucks. It's so warm toned. Like it's so much runner and like my floors are so cool. My walls are so cool. And you know how my husband is. It's like, I had like one shot at this. But I know, now he, now anytime you're like, well, I order something, he's going to be like, well, it's just going to be like, the Amazon. Like now he has. You know, I hate that I gave him ammunition. Like I'm sick to my stomach over it. So that's a bummer for me. So anyway, I need to sell it. I need to get out of my life ASAP. And I did think I found another one from like a designer on Instagram. Message me. She's like, get this one from Amazon and it's so cute and it comes in one piece. Oh, okay. So I think I'm going to do it. Okay. Anyway, I tried to return it to Amazon because everyone's like, oh, return it. Like sometimes they'll just like credit you back and tell you to keep it. And I'm like, surely they're going to tell me that because what do they want me to do? Like reassemble it back into this box. Right. Impossible. Yeah, they do. They do. So I'm not doing that. So I have to cut my losses. I have to figure out how to sell it. At this point, I'm going to give it like a week at a hundred bucks. And then I'm going to like take it down to 50. I'm going to take it down to 25. And I just like need not in my life. It's so. So that stinks. That stinks. I'm so sorry. And so we were like, you should paint it. I'm like, are you kidding? It's like, it's like Styrofoam. I get so cheap. I'm not painting it. Oh, yeah. Oh gosh, did you look at reviews? Yeah. It had a 4.6 out of five. I felt like photo reviews. Yeah. I don't get it. It looked better. It looked better than I was expecting. So super disappointing. And see, this is why I love shopping at consignment shops. I know. Because you can see it in person. And it's already assembled. I just need like very specific dimensions in these spaces. So like, that's why I'm just like going to shopping new. Because and I have some, I have some marketplace stuff that I love. Maybe my kids bunk beds, my kids are more. But like in these very specific places, I'm just having trouble. But you know what else I did? What? This is a base model luxury. I am now the proud owner of a purse tape measure. Yeah. That was good. Yeah, that was a good investment. So now I have a tape measure in my purse. Oh my god. Just like a small little tape measure. And in my phone, I have the walls that need places, the dimensions. So it's like out and out. If I stumble into a consignment shop, I'm ready to go. OK, good. I've been thinking that I really love, I would really love to hit a consignment shop. So I have been so long since I've been. Maybe we can go after lunch today. We totally should. I don't know how long it takes to eat. But we can save it at the time. Yeah. My other base model luxury that I have. And I know you're always like, you have the stupidest ones. OK. I love a straw and a slim can. OK. So I'm drinking a clean, simple, each energy and focus drink right now. Lava tropic is the best flavor. And I could be like slurping it. But instead, I'm a lady with a straw. I love a straw and a slim can. I'm going to keep it on my car. You love a straw and a slim can. OK. So add some straws to your purse. You're honestly so. No, I have beef with you. Like, let me tell you how a podcast works Elizabeth. OK. OK. Kelly, tell me. I say something. We have conversation about it. Kelly, I don't know what kind of conversation you want me to have about a straw and a slim can. How am I? What is the next thing that's supposed to say? Oh, that's interesting. Anyway. Being a podcaster is talking about nothing in an entertaining way. I don't know how else to explain that to you. Like, if you can't do that, let's hang up the mics now. Kelly, you're going to have to give me a little bit more to work with, babe. Straw to slim can. Ground breaking. OK. I literally had like, I literally had outline like five minutes for that conversation. Totally. Kelly, how? You know what? I actually don't like straws and cans. I don't like the noise that the straw makes around the metal. So like, that's, again, that's what I have to say about it. Whatever. What's next? OK. Today's episode is brought to you by newly. You know that feeling when you're invited to a wedding, a birthday party, a work thing, all in the same month. And suddenly, you realize you have nothing to wear. Now, add being pregnant to that. None of my regular clothes fit the same. I don't want to spend a fortune on maternity pieces. I'll only wear for a few months. And I still want to feel cute. 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And also I'm like, I can tell who did and who did not watch any car mom videos, which not to just like totally toot our own horn, but if you are a family car shopping in 2026 and you don't stumble across one piece of car mom content, that would be pretty shocking. Yeah, that would be shocking. So it's just like, do your research. And sometimes when I see these videos, I'm like, these people didn't do any research. So anyway, I wanted to kind of like snark. Everyone in my DMs was like, I do this too with love or reaction video. And what I'm not gonna do is like stitch and like snark on someone who I think made a horrible $75,000 decision because that's not nice. But what I was thinking we could do is I could pull real examples and we could not give their names, but we can just kind of judge their decisions. I don't, these don't come across my desk that often. I also am very protective over like, I don't love to consume other car content because I find that it could like influence my style, my verb age, so I don't watch a ton of them. And I will just probably as I was saying like, I take the most problems with people who don't do their full diligence and who don't. I really think you have to look at multiple cars. Yeah. So like for you to just, to make the best decision, to make the best well-informed decision because like if you just go and look at one car and buy it and then make a video about it, like, what are you comparing it to? Like what did you, so. And like one thing, which I will to my own horn with this, like I am so good at knowing what car people should buy. I mean, I do this for a living. And it's so funny because two people on our team who I talk to every day have both been car shopping right now. And I really told them in the beginning, like here's what you should do. And like one of them didn't listen. And I said, you know, it's fine. Like we're like, we're fine. Like we weren't, I wasn't being sassy. But I'm like, that's fine. You don't want to do that. Like take the scenic route. But I promise you, you will end up here where I'm telling you. But like that's fine. Do it your way. Should do it her way. She ended up right up where I was going to tell her. Mm hmm. Same thing does happen with teller sister bought a car. I was like, look at it all. You are going to end up with this car. Exactly. Yeah. Well, and I think it's important for people to go their own route because it's a very expensive decision to make. 100% they have to feel good about it. So yeah, I'll get them. It's like, should I get this car or this car? And it's like, OK, well both of them are going to work for your situation. You have to go test drive them both. I'm not, I am not making that decision for you. And there is a level. So like another girl on our team was shopping for a Grand Highlander. And she's like, do you think I would like the Palisade more than the Grand Highlander? And I'm like, I don't know. I like the Palisade more than the Grand Highlander. But I don't know which one you would like better. So I think you should look at both. But always look at both. Yeah, because once it's like, once I know, that that that that a car will fit your situation, like then it's a matter of your preferences. And some families do have do get the luxury of preferences. Some of us don't. Some of us have five kids in car seats. You have to get this car like the Volkswagen Alice example of last time. It's like, OK, that's the only minisized car that you can get. Sorry. Yeah. Thank you next. Yeah. OK, well, I just pulled a few. I just thought we could kind of like ingest talk about that. Sure. And you can tell some of them, I think, are fine. Some of them are genuinely really bad. And I just were just talk about it. OK. First one, the video starts off by her flipping off her Mercedes SUV. And saying how she's going to go get her perfect mom car. She has kind of crazy flip off the lock. She's having that was OK, whatever. She has one child, maybe seven months old. And she gets a new Chevy Suburban high country. The caption was, looks like I need another baby. Comments were mixed. Comments were mostly bad. Well, they weren't mostly bad. But a lot of the top ones are bad. Upset, she flipped off her nice SUV that I'm sorry for one kid is totally fine. And a lot of people are like, this is over consumption. You have one kid. Did you need a Chevy Suburban high country? Just kind of frustrated with the influencer luxury lifestyle. Well, did you say why she flipped off her Mercedes? She did it. And that I kind of wish we had some more context for where they point a lot of money into it, which she just, right, no, she didn't give that context. So I will say we don't know. We don't know the year of the Mercedes. It also could have been the car she had since high school. And maybe it was a money pet. And I actually don't. So I'm going to live in the world where, let's say, she had to get a new car. Let's say the Mercedes was causing a lot of issues. And she's like, I need a new car. It sounds like she wants to have more kids. I am always talking about the importance of forecasting your family's growth. So I think she made an OK decision. Like if she knows she wants to have more kids, if she plans to keep this car for a long time, it's better than like have buying another slightly bigger Mercedes and then having two kids and then not feeling like it's enough space and then getting a new car. Sure. I mean, you could say it's overkill now. But if you think about the forecasting, it might not be in three years. I mean, you don't have any kids you're going to have. So. So true. OK. Someone doesn't bother you. I mean, doesn't bother me. If I was like, let's say that she's unsure about how many kids she wants to have. She likes nice expensive cars. It sounds like I probably would have been like, let's go lease something for three years. Let's kind of see how many kids are going to end up having, how quickly, let's to kind of figure out how big of a car you need. And then you can buy the suburban. I probably would have advised her to go lease something in the midsize market first. And then maybe take bite off the mercy. The OK, that's fine. That one didn't bother me that much either. But it was just like the flipping off the mercy. These was kind of charring. It's called a hook. It's called a hook. It was. And it was a hook and it got an engagement. OK. Next video. Lexus GX 550. Oh no. Tell me they're empty nesters with captains chairs. So I wasn't trying to dig that deep on these people. She only has booster-aged kids, but she does have at least three kids. Oh. It made a comment about how her oldest is so excited to ride in the back. I don't really like this game because I don't have anything nice to say. No, I know. No, I know. That was a bad bite. You should have bought a Lex. You should have bought an escalade. Yeah. And you will find that. I mean, your oldest is going to be incredibly squished back there. You will have absolutely no trouble with the third row up. So what are you going to do? Try to lay down a portion of the third row and then put that child at extreme risk for things projectiles next to it? I mean, that's just about it's. Or you should have bought the Lexus TX. But I mean, I get it. People like the problem with the Lexus lineup is like the TX. I'm sorry. Isn't the best looking car? Like the GX and the Alex are so much better looking. Uh-huh. And it's so crazy because like why can't the TX should just look more? I wish it would look more like the Palisay. Like give us some more of like that boxy range Rover S vibes. There are so many more car, better cars you could have bought. You could have bought a Land Rover Defender. That would have been a much better choice. The S glue would have been a better choice. Or what was the other one I said? The TX. Yeah. That would not I. I would not have advised that. I will say that. OK. OK, so this next one she was a Hyundai partner. But she got the 2026 Hyundai Palisade with Captains Chairs. She has three under three. What, did she got the new Palisade? 26? Yeah. Yeah, 26. I mean, for a free car to work, like I don't think you're putting your children in danger. If it was a free car was a free car. Yeah. It's so crazy. I mean, I thought I would ever do it. But I have never asked to be a Hyundai partner. And I just wanted to point that out to people. It's so interesting. I would never do it ever. I'd never take money from a car manufacturer. Like to promote a car. I would never do that ever. But I would like to come across my desk as like an offer. I'll be on. You know what? That's actually a great segue into this next one. And this is more just like our rant that I have. But I came across quite a few videos from when Nissan had a bunch of mom influencers come out on a first drive event to review the Nissan Armada. Now, and I will explain. I think we could get in touch with that. We did get in touch with what we couldn't go. Okay. And the comments were, this is the ultimate mom car. How car should have been designed? Getting in and out has never been easier. And just like making all of these like comments like, well, you literally have the Nissan land you're on. And it's like, clearly you don't like, you're not getting in a bunch of cars. And you're like making these blanket statements about how this is the ultimate mom car. And it just couldn't be further from the truth. And here's where I'll take Umbertooth this because I could see how it would come off a little contradictory because like I'm also an influencer who gets paid to promote some brands. Like I 100% do that. But I would never, and I mean, I'm not trying to sound so dramatic when I say, but I would never promote a brand where I feel like your child's life is at stake. And I'm not trying to say that dramatic at all. And like the Nissan Armada is actually incredibly safe car. But like I would never try to influence a purchase that expensive. I would never do that. And that's where I just think it's kind of. And it's not even that like I don't think Nissan should invite influencers out there to like go on the events and like show the cars. I just think those influencers go and need to be really careful about their language. Yeah. Like just take like take a beat and think about like, okay, how influential am I? And is someone going to go like buy this $50, $60, $70, $80,000 car? It's really, it's really hairy. That's, that's all I'll say. It's really hairy. And I'm not really faulting the influencers or the brand for doing it. I just wouldn't pow, I would just, would rather spend my time in tension and empowering the consumer to always be thinking about like who you're getting your car and car seat content from. Yeah. But it's also like on the facts of getting paid like these first-time events, you don't get paid. Like it's just like a free trip to like, yeah. We don't get paid right? We don't. No, that's true. That's what I'm saying. It's like some of these like they're at like we've been to these events like we've made the same content. And I'm like, like she's not, she didn't get paid for it, you know? So, I don't know. Yeah, I mean, you guys know, we just don't travel because like I'm just not in it for the free trip. Like I just don't need the free trip. I don't even want to leave. Like if it's a car that I feel like I can't see quickly, I'll go on the first-time events. And I do also like to go to like try to, genuinely, and Elizabeth can attest to this. We also try to go to like make some real freaking chain-chapen. Because like you're talking to the blue design the car. So like when we went to the Kentucky area with Ford, we had some awkward dinners because I was like, why are you doing this? Yeah, but you got good answers. Yeah, we did good good answers. It was a good trip. Okay. Hold on, let's the Nissan Armada for just a quick second. It has come a long way. Like it definitely is, like I am, I will say it's a lot more family than it ever has been. And I do think, I mean, it was one of our finalists for the car of the year because there are people who want a big car who don't want to drive an expedition or a suburban. Like they want something a little bit more different and unique. And I do think the Nissan Armada can kind of provide that. It's just not, really I think the Achilles heel of that car, it's like it doesn't have a great trunk and there's no extended wheelbase option. Yeah. Yeah. And I just, it's hard to say why would I ever buy that over the Toyota Sequoia? Like those two cars are very comparable in terms of like size and styling. And I think the Sequoia, although maybe not quite as car seat friendly, like if you're after older kids, like the Sequoia over the Armada 10 times out of 10. Mm hmm. Well, that was kind of fun. Kind of sad. Kind of sad. Kind of fun kind of whatever. I can't think those videos don't come across your explore. Well, they do. I'm telling you, I just don't always watch them. You're not curious. Um, I guess you deal with it a lot. So maybe honestly, no one's right. And then sometimes I get a little, if I'm beat honest, I also get a little jealous and a little mad because like sometimes those videos perform really well. Oh, yeah. And then I'm like, they're high. Like, yeah. Which it is so hard because I'm not trying to be like, like they shouldn't share about their life and their aspects of things, but no, and granted, like I only pulled like the kind of questionable ones. Like anyone who like got a Ford Expeditioner into Minivan or whatever, like I didn't, I didn't pull those, you know. Yeah. I do like, I should probably watch them more though because it is, I do, I guess I would like to see like what, what they highlight and what they liked. I guess could be a good learning experience. Yeah. Okay. This episode is brought to you by Skylight. I have had my Skylight for over a year now. And I really like it for my family. It works well for meal planning. I can schedule our meals and our grocery lists all on the app and I can see it. So it reminds me on the calendar. I also like it for the shared calendar. And most of the time though, it is just running as like a picture frame. 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Go to myskylight.com slash carpal for $30 off your 15 inch calendar. That is myskylyght.com slash carpal. But anyway speaking of car shopping, we are meant to give this little housekeeping announcement. We are bringing back consultations, hopefully next week. Oh, good. They will fill up quick. And I'm excited to talk to you guys again. I just kind of had to take a break mainly because of my health issues, but now I'm back to being healthy. You're thriving. Well, the Botox helped. Oh, except how about the fact that I went into and get my facial on Wednesday? Or after we recorded our podcast? And she's like, did you get Botox? I'm like, yeah, I just got it on Friday. And she's like, well, then we can't do a facial. And I'm like, oh, she's like, I'll move all your Botox around. I'm like, oh, I don't want that. So could you imagine if she didn't ask you, Kelly? Well, she did her diligence. She's a professional. You would have been botched. I would have been so botched. So anyway, I did get my brows tinted. I don't know if you noticed. No, I've never done that before. Yeah, I got my brows tinted. And then I got a massage and I hated it. So that was fun. I had that feeling that you did where it just didn't feel productive at all. I know. And it's not my version of relaxing. Like, I don't know. You know, that actually reminds me of a Vaseline philosophy that I've been having. And that is the idea of productivity and how I think I saw a real or something. This wasn't my original thought. But when you become a parent, your productivity feels like it goes down a lot and you can't get anything done. And how sad is it that we don't see feeding our kids, playing with our kids, reading our kids a book, spending time with our kids as a productive thing to do? Wow. And so the other day. Wow, that's like really striking a nerd with me. Some might say it could be one of the most productive things you could do. So yesterday I kind of hit a wall around like one o'clock. Like I just just feeling like so exhausted, just like growing this baby. And I was literally like laying on the floor. Just like and just like not feeling well. And at the same time, I heard James crying in his room because my nanny was trying to put him down for a nap. And it wasn't going well. And so I was like, look, I'm feeling not great right now. Let me go help put James down for a nap because what I can't do mentally right now is sitting in front of my computer and do more work. But I also can't do right now because I don't feel good as go full laundry. So I'm going to go lay in bed with my son so he can take a good nap, which of course he did. And then I was like, you know what, I'm also growing a baby right now. And like if I want to be able to be helpful to my family for the rest of the evening, I also need to rest. So I'm going to rest. And I just kind of like in another world, I think I would have seen like me literally laying down and James is bed in the middle of my work day as an lazy thing to do. And I was like, this is productive. Because my son is resting so he can have a good day. I'm resting so I can then go turn around and put dinner on the table and do everything for my family. Who told us that was a productive? I know. Why have I been brainwashing to thinking that's not productive? Why have you been brainwashing to thinking that's lazy? Wow. So you know, it's like a little more meaty than like straws in a slim can. Maybe we can have a conversation surrounding it. So you know, the dishes aren't going anywhere. The laundry's not going anywhere. The work is not going anywhere. The time you have with your kids is going somewhere. Right. And the time that you have them at home to pour into them is not forever. So how can we be productive in that? That is a bone chelan statement. I'm going to really work on that this week. Just like being like just and I do it. I still do that, but I want to do that and see it as more productive. It's like my big goal for the week. And then when you rest your head at the end of the day, you're like, oh, nothing done the day. It's like, well, did you read your child a book? Did your child learn a new, did you help your child develop a new skill? Like what did you do with that you just play with them? Did you comfort them? Like all of that is incredibly productive and incredibly important. Okay. Well, let's challenge ourselves. Nothing I love it. Nothing I like to do a challenge. But like let's on next episode, like let's bring some productive things we do with our kids this weekend. Okay. You know, sure. Yeah. Just like some mindset shifts. Well, and I don't even think it has to be like anything crazy. Like you said the other day, your niece is, is incredible talker and she's younger than Fred. And you know, her mom is what a speech therapist. Pathologist. Pathologist. And so they have been reading her since the day she was born. They've been doing things to her. It's like, so not saying it has to be anything crazy, but like just reading your kid a book. Yeah. That's that actually helps incredibly. Yeah. Sitting there and saying what noise does the calmaik like for Sloan, like that's helping her. Right. That's productive. And it seems like like just like nothing. Chels. Chels. Okay. Anyway. I have two more segments on today's episode and that is I have one industry news story and then I have a dish to drive through. What do you want first? We don't have to go in order, but we can if you want. Well, let's do industry news. Okay. So now it's time for industry news where I spoke a hot tea going on the auto industry and let me just tell you something. There's not a tongue going on in the auto industry. Like basically it's all just like like super cars are being made like Dodgers making a race car like Lamborghini's bringing in a hybrid like literally could care less. But there's one story that's not really. It's not really auto related technically, but it also is. Okay. And did you know that Chatchy PT open AI is going to start running ads? No. Mm hmm. What what how and what capacity feels like this was kind of like a kind of a long time coming. Well, I got to be always my screen. Hold on. Let me get my iPad pulled up. I'm so sorry. This is like I don't know how to do this. It's like my iPad's like a split screen. I don't know how it got this way. Okay. Okay. Okay. It says this is from CNN. Chatchy PT may soon serve up ads for products it thinks you'd like to buy open AI announced on Friday that it will be testing ads and it's free version for logged in adult users. It's rolling out an eight dollars per month. Go subscription tier that includes some upgrade to capabilities such as longer memory and more image creation opportunities. A lower price than its plus. Go subscribers will also get ads while plus pro and open a eyes business customers won't. Some Altman has previously expressed reservations about introducing ads to Chatchy PT but the move comes as open AI is urgently trying to figure out how to bring more revenue from its 800 million monthly users to help it afford its 1.4 trillion has committed to spending on AI infrastructure over the next eight years. Altman said that in November the company expected to end 2025 with around 20 billion in annual revenue. So we don't only have a ton of like what it could look like yet but it says like advertising could prove a lucrative strategy for open AI as using the information from people's conversions with Chatchy PT could make it how could make it for highly targeted that. For example if a user asked Chatchy PT for help playing a trip it could serve up ads for a hotel or entertainment in the area. I am okay with this. If it is labeled as this hotel is an ad. It will be. It will not affect their answers. It will be like what Google does. Okay. Yeah. No, I'm okay with it. Yeah. I mean nothing's free anymore. Nothing's free. Not really. Chatchy PT. I mean it's free. Just crazy. Yeah. So and I'm also just like. I just don't mind a targeted ad. Like show me what I want to see. I mean you know me well. What do I want to see? What might I like? I don't know why life easier. But just interesting. Okay. And now it's time for Ditch to the Drive through. Are we sure it needs it in the recipe to mix it up to get you out of y'all? Dinner right. And boy do I have one for you kind of. So I'm going through like a major freezer clean out and I'm just really trying to. Use up what we have. I mean I feel like a lot of us are like you know you come off the holidays and it's like I have I bought so much like random ingredients for holiday stuff and like I've got to get this stuff out of here. And I've had cube steaks in the back of my freezer for a year. And I was like I have to use these cube steaks. So I was getting depressed and like I would go on my deep freezer to find a meat for the week and like everything I picked up was a cube steak and I'm like it's finally time. Yeah. Like I've used all the steaks. I've used all the roasts. I've used all the I've almost out of ground beef. It's like I only have cube steaks left. And I found a cookin' in the Midwest who's one of my favorite food Instagram follows. And he did a cube steak crock pot recipe and I'm like okay that sounds fun because the best way to cook cube steak is chicken fried steak and I just simply don't have the headspace to be flowering and frying steak cutlets with four kids around me. Like I can't be doing like that's just I'm not in my chicken fried steak era. I made it one time but I like did it during the work day when the kids weren't home. Like I just I can't be doing it. So I put it in the crock pot. It was like a French onion cream of mushroom brown gravy recipe. I did make mashed potatoes with it and it was average. That stinks. And how was the chicken fried steak? Was the chicken fried steak amazing? Yeah, it was amazing. Okay. Cause like a cube steak is just like not it. It was amazing. This recipe and this recipe like by all stretch it was good. Like I followed it to a tea. It tasted like what you would expect. It was like a very salty French onion gravy smothered with these like chops. But the cube steak itself I mean I cooked it for six hours on high and it was still just a little tough. Like it was hard to feed delivery I felt like. Yeah. Um, I mean the kids ate it but just still so I mean. Did we use it up to my family eat it Tyler liked it. Tellers like oh my mom needs to make these all the time. Okay. So he liked it. Um. It just didn't give me the same like high that I felt when like I made my family like the pork ramen bowls or like a chicken pot pie or like. Yeah. It didn't leave me with that. Yeah. You know, the kids ate their supper to get their M&M's. Okay. So something that I think it wasn't a very good dish to the drive through. Well, but if you have cube steaks, I'm saying like it was dinner and not every dinner has to be amazing. That's what I'm here is what I made last night just. I made chicken cutlets again. I'm sass. And um, so you're so maybe you should just get my head out of my butt because you're obviously sitting there frying food. I baked it. I baked it. You baked the chicken cutlets. Here's how you bake a chicken cutlet though. Did they turn out good? Did they turn out good? Yeah. Yeah, turn out great. Um, so what you can do is you can if I'm not if I'm feeling like myself, I'll see it first and then I will bake it. Um, but I put them, I put it on a cookie sheet and then I take my cookie like. Uh, racks that I when you have like hot cookies, a dry and rack, whatever, um, I put that on top of my cookie sheet. Oh, so that way it cooks a little bit more evenly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a good idea. Okay, that's good. But you can sear it for like two minutes first, but I just didn't want to dirty another thing. So I said whatever. Uh, I mean, then searing it if you want to. Yeah. Yeah. And so what I did is I didn't even like top them with cheese like I just made the cutlets. Um, and then we had chicken parm the first night and then the next night I just cut them up and served it kind of like you did the other night with your pork over fried rice. And um, I like so loads like traitor Joe's guiuzas. Um, love. Yeah. And then that Japanese barbecue sauce just really takes it over the top. That's it. And it was just like it felt so good to use the same thing, but have two totally different flavor profile. Sure. Okay, maybe I need to make chicken cutlets. Yeah, but there's so much you can do. My freezer or chicken thighs and I don't really like chicken thighs very much. I love chicken thighs. Mm-hmm. Not my favorite. You make Sam's chicken thighs, Kelly. I know, but like Tyler doesn't like them very much. What? You know, he doesn't like dark meat. Oh, he just doesn't like the texture of a chicken thigh. Yeah. Oh, I prefer chicken thigh. Well, so I was thinking of putting them in a pop high because I feel like that kind of hides it a little bit. Yeah. Because that's the next thing I have to use up chicken thighs. And then I have a couple of like arm roasts from beefs that I have to use up and we have no steak left. No hamburger. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm going to, so tomorrow, so tonight I'm going to make a chicken pop high. Tomorrow, I'm going to do a chuck roast. It's not a chuck roast. It's like an arm roast, but I'm going to season it like with Mexican, like taco seasoning in rotel. And then I'm going to try to do like a shredded beef taco moment. Yeah. So I think, yeah. And then I have, I have like half a jar of salsa to use. I have some cheese to use. I have some tortillas that are getting a little hard. So like, I think that'll be kind of like a good, I have some corn, I have some black beans. So I'm going to try to do like a taco bar, but instead of ground beef, I'm going to do these, the shredded beef, which I think will actually be good. I think it'll be better. I think that'll be the best dinner of the week. Yeah. Okay. Well, with that, that's going to be our episode. So thank you so much. I'm ready for some fun too. So thank you so much for listening to the Carpool Podcast. And we'll talk to you next time. Love you guys. Bye. Thank you for listening to the Carpool Podcast with Kelly and Liz. 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