HOLIDAY SPECIAL: OG Hoonigans Dan & Zac Join Scotto for a “SURPRISE” Episode of VERY VEHICULAR

It's the holidays and here's the season for surprises. Both Danger Dan and Mr. Zachary thought they were just coming by to hang out, but no surprise podcast. I know how much you enjoy catching up with the OG Hoonigans. We do a bunch of that. Get into some nostalgia and also talk about all the new things they're up to. Enjoy it. Well, here we are guys. Another episode of Very Vacular and I have two very good buddies here who didn't know they were going to be on the show together today. It is the holiday special. If you're watching this fresh, it's Christmas Eve and you're trying to avoid your family. I respect that. Uh, what's up boys? What up, dude? Well, it's the last time you two saw each other. It was a minute ago. We just started with a PRI. PRI last year. Like randomly bumped into each other there. Yeah. It was my first PRI. I haven't seen, when was the last time you and I saw each other Dan? I don't know. I really don't. Dan was just in like my house. I walked back in and I was like, look, there's Dan because Dan's in town. Yeah. Now I'm on a podcast. And he did not know he was on a podcast today. It was like, hey, surprise podcast, which is pretty much like what it was like working at Hoonigan. I grew up in New York City working on cars and alleyways on jack stands, which means I spent a lot of time on my back. As I've gotten older and bigger, I realized I need a better creeper because I've been known to bottom out a few of the cheap ones. Enter Vipers man sized lay down creeper. As expected, they've got great casters just like their stools. The fabric hammock design is super comfy and it even has a nice adjustable headrest, which is great for those undercard naps. Vipers.com. That's Viper with a Y. Winter is coming, which for many of us just means snow and church van is so ready because I got some Toyo Open Country AT3s on there. This is a great off road tire that also performs really well in the snow. 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So run, don't walk to heatwavevisual.com before time runs out. I'm actually stoked for this because like just yesterday I was like, man, I wonder how Dan's doing. I haven't talked to that dude in a minute. What Dan doesn't know is I'm going to make him finish Cole Marrow tonight. I'm taking that sucker home. You know, it's a Jose's. Is it? I have to go to Jose's. I got to go pick up my two. Is that Jose's use that tow tow trailer back? You know what I mean? I didn't actually plan to jump into that, but this wasn't the plan. It was it was the holiday special. And we have a lot of themes here you can see because I took a lot of time like making notes. Wait, no notes at all. Check it out. Yeah, it checks out. Yeah, and I'm planned about something. So I figured we just riff it. It's again, holiday special. There's not much to do. Sip your eggnog, right? Whatever. So, but let's I'm going to I had a conversation the other day with somebody and I want to see if you agree. I think. Cole Marrow was one of the like tipping points for us at Hoonigan into making content we didn't like. For me, for sure. But it was more than just for you. It was more than just for you because I think in the end, we didn't understand why we were building the car. Yeah. Like when we got to the end, like nobody wanted to build it anymore because originally remember what it was supposed to be? The 350 Z. It's supposed to be a 350 Z and we couldn't fit the engine into 350 Z. Yeah, there's no way. Yeah, because it just the engine was so wide was the LBZ. Like it's so wide that it's wider than the strut towers. Fully dressed was like 35 inches wide, which was and strut towers are 31 or something like that. Oh, yeah. I remember there were like trying like like scrapping it to be like, what can this actually fit in? That's a car. Yeah. I suggested a Dodge Magnum. And that's what I wanted to do. Yeah. Probably would have been cooler to probably cooler. Yeah. I don't know why at the time we were like, oh, this is probably because I saw one on Marketplace. Like, let's be honest, that drove a lot of my decisions back then. We just measured some stuff and it worked. Yeah. And then the project started and I think we were like really excited until it was not easy anymore. And then we just basically closed the door and let Dan and Jose suffer through it. And then it got finished. And I think between that and like the Gale Bank stuff and all that, I think it just burned everybody out. It did a hell of a burnout though. It did one hell of a brand. It never went faster than a hundred and like 30 miles an hour as a for a land speed car. But it would do 130 miles an hour. Oh, it would do 160 mile a wheel speed burnout. No, like from a roll, like at whatever speed, it seemed to just ignite the time. Yeah. 80 pounds of base didn't matter. So I don't know if you know this, but somehow when I was leaving, they gave me that. So like it became like the weird thing in the divorce that I, they didn't know what to do with it. They had nowhere to store it and they didn't have a title for it. So they're like, we don't know what to do with this thing. Do you think you can sell it? I was like, no, but if you need it gone, I'll take it. And then it went to Jose's. And I forgot that it was there until like three weeks ago when when Vinny sent me a photo of it, he's like, yo, are you going to go get this? But the plan is I want to take that engine out and put it in that F 600 I have. And then Jose wants to put an LS back in the Camaro as the chassis. Fantastic. Yeah, exactly. It's got a quick change of location. And then he wants to go. Huge winters. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, that's indestructible. There's no way you're breaking that. No, but we're going to make an episode about it. I feel like you need to come back out for that. Cause I feel like I feel like it would be like never even got to finish it. All right here. Yeah. Come on back out. Check it out. I think we're like writing wrongs with it though. The right, the wrong would be go 200 miles an hour in it, which it could be really easily done with just an LS. Let's go do it with an LS. It's got the gear. Listen, we'll pull a motor out of my Tahoe. You realize it has the gear going to go 200 miles an hour revving to 3500. Imagine if you rev at the seven grand. You realize I got to go pick up that U-Haul tomorrow. There you go. There's a free LS in there for you. I also feel like it was real shitty to just like be like, Hey man, you've never done any diesel stuff, right? Figure this out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, that I think that we were talking, I had this conversation and I could give it to you guys too. I don't know if you heard the episode with Vinny and Ron, but we did this listing of our favorite builds we ever did. So I, you know, I'd be kind of interested in hearing you guys on it. So I have this other podcast idea because, you know, I don't really like ever doing just one thing and it can never be that easy. So I had this concept. It's called firing order and it's like a listical creator. So you basically, you get a team of people together and then you make a list of the greatest, you know, whatever, right? And everybody brings their own list to the table and then you fight over it. And you basically just a podcast where everyone just argues the whole time. And at the end, you have to make a list. And then the name of the group of people who come in is the rotating assembly. And yes, I'm very fucking proud of that. I appreciate that wink. Yeah. So the rotating assembly, firing order. So we did a little test of it in the pilot episode and we talked about what our three favorite builds were of all time at at Hoonigan. What were your guys? Like if you had a list, your three favorite builds, whether you were involved in them or not, and it was company cars, not personal cars. I mean, mine, like for some weird reason, like scumbag. Yeah. Scumbag was on my list. But I feel like it was just because it was so fun. Even in like its like first outing. It was also Dan's first week. Yeah. Dan showed up and Dan, Dan showed up, barely knew me, met me like once 10 years earlier at a, at a no star bash, right? And showed up and we were like, Hey, we just bought this piece of shit in a. Yeah. And you like basically worked all night to like try to fix as many problems. I ripped the steering wheel off immediately. Yeah. I just went, he was like, he was like, I was like, you think you can get this running, you know, so we can go drive a thousand miles in Baja. He was like, sure. That was his first week after he welded. He's just finished welding shark cart back together because we had just started stripping shark cart down. Yeah. So you've, you've finished building that. And then he was like, look, it runs. And I'm like, great, how about working on this? Well, that's how we met, right? Cause we built the, the tube chassis car. You guys had the nocturnal, yeah. Chassis Esther team. Yeah. Nocturnal motorworks in St. Louis. Me and my buddy built a tube chassis car. You guys saw that and like, what the hell is this? And that's when we had the road course in St. Louis. So it's like, yeah, yeah. Hey, I can do that kind of tube work. You want to do it? Do a Miata? I love Miata's. I love to work. They worked out. Is that gateway? Yeah. Yeah. That was cool. The good gateway. Yeah. That was a cool truck. That thing ripped out there. So yeah, that. Okay. So scumbug. What else? Scumbug. I, I honestly, oddly enough, Sharkart, you know, Sharkart was on my list too. So far you've named two of my top three on the list. Yeah. And which are not like things that I would normally, you know, it's not really my style, but like they are the most fun we already had or ever had in cars. I feel like I could guess your third, but I'd be interested to hear what you have to say. Oh man, trying to think of third, man. Trying to think of like what else was built there that was a brand. Do you want me to give you some cars? Well, hold on, hold on. If it's brand car, the third gen of the 632 is like. That's what I was going to guess. Cause that's like the you car. Like if there was ever a car that was so you. By the way, I'm actively campaigning Hoonigan to let me take and actually fix that on my channel. That would be fantastic. Cause you know. Yeah. If you're listening to the pod, go tell Hoonigan. Give the, give the marrow to Zach to fix. Yeah. The peak of one. But those, those are. So those are your three. So, um, none of those made the top list of the way we did it, but the 632 was on Vinny's list, uh, scumbag and Sharkcart were on mine. I think in the end it was Rolls Royce, Donk, shit car. We're our three favorite. And I argued that Sharkcart was a better car than shit car. Then we had more fun in it. More people learn to do everything in it. I mean, we taught a nine year old how to do donuts in it. Like we taught people how to drive stick. Um, tons of people learned how to drift in that car. I mean, that thing was really the village bicycle for Hoonigan and was one of the more fun, reliable vehicles. The company party. Whilst doing all of that stuff in the old yard. Yeah. That was hilarious. That was super. Watching everybody try to learn how to do donuts for the first time. And I mean, we stuck with them for the rest of their life. You know, tons of people, I mean, like Kakao, Kakao did donuts in shit car. We had them in that too. But I think there was, I mean, we had the most random people with like people from accounting, like people who like just managed production. Like I think Jamie, it was a bunch of people who got to rip that. So that thing was, was super fun. Yeah. Like not actual car people, like getting to experience something like without any liability towards us. Like if you break it or whatever. No, Sharkcart was, was, was fantastic. I think what's your list? For me, number one, Sharkcart. I obviously was my first day there. Yep. I'm a huge Miata fan. I mean, that thing lived through everything. It still lives, right? It's still I just saw the other day I was over there. So I don't know if I want to. I'm taking that home. I don't know. I want to. I'm taking that with me. I can't wait to the size vehicle that you're you look, you're like, I came out. I'm going to buy a 10 foot you or rent a 10 foot you haul to go home by the time you're done. You're like, yeah, honey. So I had to pick up a, I had to pick up an old seven, three diesel to tow this three car home. Bees like that sometimes. Um, Ron had a really good idea, which was he wanted to convince him again. So this is the game. Everyone just has to give it to me and give us the cars back so we can all fix them and get them right. But Ron wanted to build Sharkcart into a Jim Connacard to compete on their new Jim Connacard show, because that thing would actually rip it. Well, all wheel drive. No, no, just real drive. That's a real car. You don't have to do anything but put new tires on it. Yeah. I think it's just, I think it just has a little negligence and a little neglect. A lot of neglect. So, and a lot of us just beating a little shit out of it. I mean, we told the boring beer into the radio basically totaled that G 35 by hitting it with Sharkcart. Oh man, you remember the G 35? Yeah. I think I was sick. Didn't you lose the hood? Yeah. Yeah. You popped, you popped your hood. You popped your hood, Cherry. Yeah, we just got painted and literally just got back and then we had to do some integration for some like dog, uh, like, you know, like we, your dog would like rest its head on the window and I had Hatchpal. Yeah. And so I took it around. Oh, I forgot about Poochpal. Oh my God. Literally drove it up the street, turned left on Chestnut or whatever that is. And then they were doing road construction. It tore the exhaust off because there was a plate. And so Kyle went to go get it. And we were like, oh shit, we better get this thing back to the shop, right? Cause now it is an open header G 35. And as we were coming down the road to get down to Golden there, it just like the dad were talking like it all of a sudden the hood just ejected. Then it hit the walkover pass like the, yeah. And like, I think it got caught on a GoPro too, right? Oh yeah. Yeah. There's a great shot of it. There's a bunch of shots of it. That is one of the hardest I've ever laughed in my life. I think. Did you ever lose a hood during the Hennigan era? No. So I did because I was driving. I had just gotten the Audi coupe Quattro running during the beginning of the pandemic. I opened up the door. I pulled the car out, undid the hood pins. Checked the oil, closed the hood, didn't clip the pins, started driving down the block and a gust of wind came up the alleyway. And I just watched the carbon fiber hoods flip over, snap, break the corners off the hood. And I was, it was like, I felt like it was a spiritual moment. Yeah. Because at that point everybody had had a hood moment and we made fun of everybody. And we started talking about like the hurt curse and I instantly FaceTime hurt and he just laughed for like 20 minutes and then hung up. Zach was driving the G35, but I do think it was my fault that that came off because the pins weren't in it. Yeah. Yeah. Whatever. It was hilarious. It was funny because like it like it just got in this paint job and then they did like a metal flake roof and it like shattered the windshield metal flake. It scratched the shit out of like, I mean, obviously the hood was messed up, but then like the roof too. Yeah, it's OK. Then we sent to the Saudi Arabia and it burned to the ground. You know the story of that thing coming back in the Sultan of Brunei? Do you know the whole story? No. You know, it seems like no one knows this story because again, it happened like during lockdowns and like we weren't seeing each other every day. So you did you guys go to you go to Saudi? Yeah, I did. OK, so we said so there was building the Camaro. Oh, sorry. Yeah, nobody else wanted to go. And I was like, if you give me 20 grand, they're like, cool. I was like, I should ask. Please take me anywhere, Brian. Do they let me ask do I have to install a door or a Max to leave? You were basically it was the it was basically who in a escape room. It was like, Dan can't leave till he finishes this abomination we built. It's just intercooler piping for 90 feet. So wait, no. So the story is so the cars get shipped to Saudi Arabia. We did that car show there. I forget what it was. You and I think Micah and a few other people went and then the cars get shipped back. And during that period of time, you know, lockdown goes into effect. And this is like the first two months when none of us were in the building. I get a phone call and it's like, hey, there's a delivery at the building. You have to go accept it's the cars from Saudi Arabia. And I was like, OK, cool. When the cars are coming back, we told them we don't want the G35 back because it burned to the it was burnt. We're like, you guys can keep it. They're like, no, we have to send it back because of carnail import laws. Otherwise, you're going to have to pay taxes on it. And we were like, where are the taxes? And they're like, oh, well, you guys insured the car for like seventy five thousand dollars. I'm like, why did we do that? So there was like the taxes around the seventy five thousand dollar car. I'm like, fine, just ship it back. So car comes. So I get there and there's like an enclosed trailer and they're lowering and then closed carrier. So like the first car that came off, I think it was like a short car. And I forget what else we sent out there. And then that and then all of a sudden a 1955 yellow going goal. And it wasn't a goal wing. It was the convertible version, but it wasn't actually a goal wing. Yeah, it was. Yeah, it was. Because I remember I went into the shop. I don't think it was, but I'm going to let it go. It's good for the story. I swear to God, because I went into the office. I was like the only person there. I was like, why is this here? So it shows up. I remember it differently, but I don't care. It looks better for the story. So anyway, it was a goal wing and it was canary yellow. And the guy's like, yeah, this is yours. I'm like, no, no, he's like, look, I got the list right here. It's a yeah, this car, a yellow car. This is the yellow car. I'm like, that is not it, but you can leave it here. I guess, but that's not it. So the car gets dropped. I'm like, this is definitely a mistake. And I knew the guy who ran the event. So they like hit him up and I'm like, Hey, man, we just got this car here. Do you have any idea what's going on with this? He's like, no, no clue, but we'll get it figured out. So like four months passed by and all of a sudden, like one of those no touch deliveries come, like when you buy a Bugatti, you know, it shows up in like the glass case and you can see it from the side. One of those show up and out of the back of it is the burnt G35 being dumped off because apparently that car belonged to the Sultan of Brunei and it was delivered to his collection here in Los Angeles. And instead they delivered the G35. You know, somebody like somebody lost their life for that mistake. 100% like it straight up. And I remember it so because I opened it and I was like, dude, I'm pretty sure this car is worth a lot of money. Why is it here? If this is the worst place. It's I called the Mars. I called the Mars and I was like, Hey, I just want to let you know there's a car in here worth about four or five million dollars. He's like, the insurance doesn't cover it. I was like, all right, just letting you know. Yeah, pretty, pretty sure there was at one point me doing a burnout on a motorcycle like right behind that thing. Yeah, because it was just we just stuffed it in the corner of the office. Yeah. So anyway, shark cart. Yeah. What's next? Shark cart. A little tangent boys. Nothing new. Shark cart. Uh, man, none of us gone on a tangent. I would say shit car as well, but before pre off road. Yeah, that we were. Yeah, yeah, that was that was a mistake. That doesn't count. No, we were just bored. That was like when you get to the kink level of car. Yeah. How many things? Shit car was fantastic. SR 20 era. I like the SR 20. It just wasn't well carried out. Yeah. It could have been sick. But that's where you think it would have been straight away from shit car at that point, because that's kind of sick. Do you think it would have been sick if like Ron didn't crash it on the opening? The opening run. I crashed it. Wait, you crashed it. Yeah, I jumped it. Remember like literally. No, that was the off road version. But when we first put the SR in it, we went out to Irwindale when we had burn yard at Irwindale and Ron sent it right into the wall. Yeah. And it was like everyone was so excited to drive it. And then we all went home. I made fun of that the other day. Okay, shit car. And strangely enough for me, Co Merrill. Really? Wait, what? Yeah, as much as I hated it. This is. Yeah, I would have never. I would have never respected news. I had in my head this idea that you hated that car. I do. Because I remember, is that why? Is it like a weird love hate thing? Yeah. Well, I mean, to me, part of it is that it's something that I had to overcome. Okay. Right. I knew nothing about diesel and I. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Had to overcome that. I had to learn it. I had to get past all of that. I did. And it was successfully pretty strong. Yeah. So I don't know. It still probably runs. I have no idea. Yeah. I mean, oh no, it still runs. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Jose got it up and running without much effort. Because it was such a difficult thing for me to do and a mental block in my head to get past and plus all the hate that I received for a lot of things is like, I got to get through this. That hate was so unwarranted. Yeah, that was such bullshit. I had to get through it and I got through it and actually doing that burnout because I was so mad I couldn't care if I sent it to the moon and it just blew up. But it worked and I was like, this thing's actually sick. It was pretty stout. I mean, it's got beat on. The first poles that we made down the airstrip and they couldn't hook up and it was just doing burnout. So that was the coolest feeling. Oh yeah. It was like, this is sweet. It would do it. I was like, I know it would do it, but the chassis, I'm not sure would do it. I'm not an engineer. I can't go 200 miles and I'll put this thing on his lid. But I built the roll cage and I trusted it 200 miles an hour on its lid. It would have. It would have always been cool to put a big tire on that thing and seeing what it could have done just on just on a drag strip, because like it just didn't hook at all with. Well, the other part of it, too, is like it was a rolling start. It had to get a roll. Yeah, you couldn't get a start. Yeah, we had to roll into it and it wouldn't really even start going until about 40, 50 mile an hour. Yeah, like it wouldn't even grab. And as soon as it hit 40 mile an hour to blow the tires off and anywhere from 40, I bet you all the way up to 180 mile an hour, blow the tires off. You know, it's interesting. I would have thought the knucklebusters eat 36 foot of it on that. No, I hated that car. Really? Yeah. Why? Well, like the fun part of building a car is the roll cage. I didn't do that. OK. And all the other stuff was a conglomerate of things that I didn't like for a drift car. It's the gearing was too tall. The braking sucked. OK. The car drove like I drove your wife off the course at like 100 mile an hour. Yeah, I remember that. Because she's still here. That's OK. She's great. Um, yeah, it takes a lot more. The brakes didn't work. A lot didn't work. The power delivery was wrong. The rear end gear was wrong. It's Ron's favorite car in terms of cars to drive. Like he enjoyed that car the most out of all the cars to rip, because I think at one point it's fine after you get when you get the right diff combination, that was part of it. Yeah, we're fighting to get the right gearing. Yeah, gearing is wrong. And then, yeah, you know, it's a crazy. The ITBs were weird too. Yeah, yeah. Now that initial, the initial dual intake manifold, dual throttle body set up was definitely, but that was obviously what was paying for the project was like Edelbrock was trying to promote that. But I think that things, something to think about that's so crazy is we did that project to try to promote the idea of E 36 is in drifting because no one was using E 36. They're so good. But think about that. Think about it now. Yeah. Like now it's like there's more means like omnipresent. It's like I almost feel like there's more BMWs, 36s and 46s. I feel like the drift tax on those cars is like. 36, yeah, but the 46 is still not. I know that was an M3 and we bought it for $2,000 and we drove it into the shop. I mean, it wasn't great. It was pretty, it was pretty roached, but $2,000 E 36 M3, like that doesn't exist anymore. Oh, the knucklebusters. Yeah, the knucklebusters car. I was like, not shit car. What are you talking about? Shit car was a 318. No, no, no, that was a 328. Was it? Yeah, 318 is the short ones. So the 318 TI that was the TI is a short one. But there's a 318 that's not. I don't know. I'm not a BMW guy. It's a 318, I believe. It's the four cylinder. I thought that was a 328. No, because I guess the 328 was a 2.8. I guess it is a 1.8. Yeah. Yeah, you know, whatever. You have 318. Yeah. I don't know. That thing was sick though. Yeah. That car was awesome. Yeah, we ruined that M3. I don't know. It's cool now, I guess. It got a lot of life. I drove it at grid life after it had gotten kind of a rebirth. Yeah. And then I drove it at Vegas in the Jim Conest setup, but it was set up for I don't know who, not me, probably you in the seat. And I tried to drive it and the helmet fell over my head. And I almost fell out of the seat and I was like, I'm good. Actually, I was following Luke Finken. I was in between Luke and Mike Adias. And I was like, yeah, this is the most dangerous drifting I have ever done. You know, I got to say, I'm going back to Colmero because I almost feel like there's this weird part of the universe that has just like closed up for me now. Because I always sort of felt bad about Colmero because I knew in midway through the project, you were just over it, but we were like, we were just in it. And we had to finish it. I was over it before it started to be fair. You were kind of excited about it early. A little. No, you were excited about it early on. I think once you were done, I think I'm clearly stated, I don't know anything about DZ. No, no, I know that was true. But I think once you got done with the roll cage, you were like, OK, I'm done. Yeah. So that's the easy part to me, right? That's how work stuff is easy. And then you get to the motors like, I don't know. I don't know. But I think it's cool in the way that I overcame something. And I think that it's cool because it was a really cool motor. Oh, yeah. Like I kind of want the motor for nothing. I know you're going to take it, but. Well, you can come help me install the F 600. You can get. I'm good. You sure? You still have that, by the way. Yeah. OK. Yeah. It's a hard part. It's all what is the motor stuff is all done. All you have to do is not just that. It's like it's like three wires to connect to the car because everything else is all it's all standalone. So it's like just power it and it's ready to go. You can literally just take everything. Take everything out and plug it in. The only thing is I probably remove the dry sump because I just don't think there's a it just like more things to go wrong for no reason. No, I don't need a dry sump and a 600. Hey, yeah, you don't need a thousand horsepower. That's true. That's true. I also don't need an F 600. I don't need anything. But more oil is better. OK. All right. Fair enough. Yeah. Yeah. From Zach. So what are you guys up to? Building stupid cars. Same. Yeah. You know, doing doing YouTube stuff, crashing vehicles all over the United States with our hours. You're still here in Long Beach. Yep. We are in Ohio. How are you liking that? Ohio is great. You know, we're Midwest boys. Yeah. We're back to boring stuff. And it's fantastic time to myself. You got you got a big garage shop space. I have a two car garage and I have a 30 by 40 shop out back. Damn. Talk to me. Shop is really good. It's got really good lighting and has good air. You got heated floor nice floor. And it's not heated. I mean, well, the shop is heated. I don't really need heated floors. I don't spend much time on the floor. You know, when I realized like I had become an adult or at least a man of adult ambitions is when I started getting pole barn recommendations on Facebook. One, I still use Facebook to it's like, you know what you need in your life? You need a 40 by 60 pole barn. Yeah. Yeah. I already I have a shop and I still look at other shop. Of course you do. It's like having a project car. You always have more. So I have four sheds on the property and I'm still looking to build another one. The problem for me is I have so much stuff that isn't car related in the shop. And that is not what I want. I want only car stuff for that shop. So I need to have another storage stuff to get everything out. And it's just a workflow. I get it. Oh, it's a work. You can't you can't mix church and state. You know, yeah. So I this is a good conversation because I don't want gardening tools in a garage. No, like they need to be in a shed. I don't want like something that digs holes and dirt to be near sockets or anything. Like that makes no sense. I also you don't want your wood shop to be anywhere near like somewhere that you might weld because then it's just the nightmare. So it's like you really were just in cars and general and parts and whatever. Like this is beyond like you need like a four garage life. Like a four garage solution. You need like the garage that you store your nice cars in and that you let like, you know, that you can like the garage door works. Hold on. And you can drive. I'm still here to where's the time stamp on this so I can clue Emily and 20. So we're 27 ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Brian's got his four four garage. Four garage. This is a four car solution. This is a four garage solution. So one is a regular like non car person garage. The garage door works when you push the button. So it opens like on its own. I mean, if you guys ever experienced that before, it's pretty cool. I have one. You can store like bicycles and Christmas trees and things like that. And there, no, no, no, no, that's different for me because I like bikes. Bikes is a separate fine kids bikes, kids bikes, like that type of stuff. That all goes there. Christmas decorations, Halloween decorations, all that goes in like a normal pedestrian garage. Then you have like the garage shop, full blown shop. Like this is this is the where you work on stuff. But let's be honest, there's no room to park a car in it. Right. It's it's mostly just like machine shop stuff. And a lift. And then you have another garage, which is where you store your cars and all your parts. And then you have a last the last garage, which is probably split into two garages. Maybe this is a five car solution, five garage solution where you've got like your farm equipment, you park your tractor, you're all that kind of stuff. You will legally store gasoline and tires in there. And then you also have your wood shop. Got to have a mezzanine in one of them. I know, I know. There's got to be a hangout spot. I mean, even like we're doing right now, I agree. What we're doing right now, you got to have a spot to hang. So a mezzanine that works out in the car area, right? Where you're storing the car. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You can hang out. That's a good one. Because then you fill it up. My full wet bar. Yeah. My dream. Yeah. My dream at the farm is to build like a tall, like 25 foot high, like barn with a mezzanine in it, where the triple stackers put the cars at the height of the mezzanine so you could like look out and see like two cars stacked there. And then across from it have a theater screen so everyone can hang out in the mezzanine and like watch movies. If you really want to get slick with the glass in. No, yeah, that's the way to go. Yeah. Or you have like glassed in like elevator storage, right? So like, you know, when you got real sick shit, you know, it doesn't get like affected by any of the elements inside the storage area, right? Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm into that. You don't want anybody coughing on your, you know. You ever think about how different it would be if like we didn't have to share domiciles with women, which is build the craziest places that would make no sense. I would have walked straight past the house. Yeah. Had we just gone, I pretty much did. I've been going on the rabbit hole of like, like garage houses, you know, they're basically like a like a barn to minimum, but for like a garage, like a garage, do you know? Yeah, yeah. And like, that's exactly where it's like, okay, you got like six to eight thousand square feet of garage space. Then, you know, maybe like, again, mezzanine. Yeah, yeah. It's like, you know, basically like a glassed in small, maybe 1500 square feet maximum condo, you know, and that's like your living area. But then you got all this area where you can actually do your things and store them. It would be fantastic. You know, when I was in my early twenties, when Tron came out and they do the motorcycle chase scene throughout the whole thing and he flops in, opens his garage door, which is basically just shipping containers underneath a bridge and pops in, parks the bike, hops on the side of the couch, turns on the TV, I was like, that's going to be my life. Yeah. We're like Lord of War. I want to do that. Yeah. I think, I think Mike Burroughs has a set up like that. I've never actually been to his place, but I'm pretty sure he like lives at his shop, which I think is pretty cool. You know, I went to Jesse Combshop and I thought that was the coolest setup I'd ever seen. But the one that she got kicked out of, that was off the street from ours. Yeah, that one. That was really cool. It was like off seven street. Yeah. So just to fill you guys in, it was like, it's rad spot. But then like, apparently the city or the fire marshal came down on her like, it's like, oh, this can't be like a work, live solution. And they like, you know, gave her a bunch of shit for it, which it was like really well done. She had to take out like the kitchen or something in order to make it. Yeah. I forget what it was in the end. It was so cool. It was up there with one of the coolest places I've ever seen. Yeah. It was really cool. I remember going to look at it being like, I want. Yeah. She just had, you know, the garage, you walk in, you have the two, three big garage and then a hallway, which is filled with all the coolest stuff she's done. Right. She's got fire suits and leather jackets and all that stuff. And then there's a glass doors looking into the living area. But if you're in the living area, which would be the kitchen, then you're looking out and you look down this hallway of all the fire suits and helmets and carnage and stuff that she's had. And then there's the car she's working on in the back. And I was like, man, that was also so nondescript from the outside. Right. Like from the outside, just look like a random building and you walk inside. Like, this is so cool. Really cool. Yeah. I, um, I, I think like for my, like, I like working at night. You guys remember, I would always work at night. And like, that's why I always wanted a place where like my shop was attached to my, to my house, because the worst thing at Hoonigan would be, it'd be 430 in the morning and I have to drive home now. Like I get to go home, then I get to get home. I got a shower, like, I'm going to wake up by the time I get to the house and like then wake up when I shower where like, if you could just do it and cry. I mean, I did, I definitely slept at Hoonigan a lot. Oh yeah. I was actually just telling somebody the story about this, I think earlier today, but you were in China and we had to do a livery launch for Ken. It was the, uh, Troy Lee designs first one. Yeah. The multi color one. And it was, you're like, Hey man, uh, you might want to get some energy drinks and some food is going to be a long night. And so I was back at Hoonigan editing it. And then like, I remember writing my chopper home at like 515 in the morning. And like, for those of you that don't live in LA, right? The people that are up at 515 trying to get to work, it's basically like gridlock traffic that moves at 95 miles an hour. And so like, I remember just almost dying like three times on the ride home. She's like, Oh my gosh, absolutely cooked. And they're just like, and that was the point where I'm like, I'm just going to move to Long Beach because I can't keep doing this. And by the way, to a little more information on that traffic, the reason is, because there's this sweet spot between 515 and six, there's no traffic. And then all of a sudden at like 602, it just completely stops. So that morning run are, these are professional drivers. This is not normal traffic. Yeah. Like these people, they know how to merge. They know everything at this time of morning. Like they're all just like coffeeed up and running. Like you said, 95 miles an hour, six feet apart from each other. Oh yeah. You're basically bump drafting. Like, you know, you got guys in like S 600s just on the bumper of somebody just like, let's fucking go. Which I live is cool. But you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not after a 24 hour day. So anyway, what's, uh, are we going to do? We talked about making up a theme for this since it is the holidays. You guys got any theme? You got any, what makes this more holiday? Like, what do you want for Christmas, Dan? Silence. Leave me alone. That's where you're at now, Dan. No, I mean, no, actually, no, I spent a lot of time alone. But no, I, uh, for Christmas, I'm, I feel content right now. That's a really good thing to want for Christmas. You're just like, I'm good. I'm good. Yeah. I'm good. I think, uh, Emily and I talked about a shared gift, which would be either an espresso machine. Nice. Nice. Uh, or, you know, I don't know. For me, it always leads to another car, another bike. Yeah. Yeah. I saw a really bitching two mass galleon for sale. There was like a legit pirate ship. And I was like, fuck, that would be so sick. I'm surprised it's taken you this long to get into boating. I feel like I love boats. I just, you know, I try to stay away from things that I can't afford. Right. Like, I like power. You know, I still have a boat. You have a, wait, the little like, I have a jet stream boat that I still haven't built. Oh, the one that just got delivered. The one that got delivered. Years ago. Yeah. Yeah. I thought those shot out the jet stream. Thanks very much. Yeah. That would be, those would be actually, that looks like it'd be really fun to have something that rips. That's that small blast up a river, maybe like jump up. I don't know. Damn, that a beaver built. Definitely, definitely beaver jumping. Yeah. That's the move. Have you watched any of those videos? Dude, yeah. I talked to Taylor Ray about it. He's about it. Yeah. It seems like everyone who has built one has kind of completely abandoned cars. He's like, it's like drifting, but it's way cool. Yeah. It's like you don't have to do any work. But apparently it's okay to drink while you do it. Yeah. And I don't have to change tires. It's a lifestyle. Boating is almost, you know, it's synonymous with, you know, getting about 12, 14 curse lights in your system, then, you know, seeing what that thing will do wide open. Do you guys follow the, the qualified captain on Instagram? Oh yeah. You do, right? Yeah. That was the only reason I follow it is because Ken was like, this is the best Instagram account and it's changed now, but for like a good year, all it was was people like having failed boat launches at ramps. And like 90% of it is some escalate, like going underwater because people would forget that like once the boat lifts up, the e-brake no longer works because you've taken all the weight off the back of the truck. And it like, oh, so I always like seeing the guys that had the scores with the guys back in the trailer. Do you ever see to put added pressure? I remember my dad flipping out back in a trailer into Draco. Oh, I could, I could imagine. Just watch them get worked up with so fun. Yeah. Yeah. The other day I had this really great moment where I got to load a parts car that I sold these young kids with my Kubota with a forklift and I had taken the front subframe off and I didn't tell them that. So they showed up thinking they were getting a roller and they got there and the whole front. We got a dragger. And I was like, yeah, it turned out I needed the subframe. So, uh, yeah. How many friends did you bring? And it's like two guys, no winch. And just like a, an open trailer. And I was like, well, how are you going to get on there? I was like, I'll throw it on with the, with the, you know, with the tractor. And I, I'll be honest with you, I got kind of lucky, but I did it. Like at first it took me a second to get it set up. But once I got it set up, like I backed it up, turned it around, put it all the way up and then dropped it on by just like, you know, kind of moving it like a, like a rickshaw, you know, just running it up like that. And the one kid looked at me and was like, oh man. I was really impressed. He doesn't do this a lot. And I had this moment where I was like, I feel like I've now achieved old man wisdom, because I remember watching like old dudes back up trailers at like the body shop I worked at and been like, one day I'll be like that. And I had that moment. I was like, yeah. And then like 15 minutes later, I crashed a tractor into something, but they didn't see it, you know, so it's all good. Yeah. So he left being like, man, that's Scott. Oh, he's sure can tractor. You know, I was going to say the most flawless boat ramp drop off I've ever experienced was a Ryan Anderson. Dude, just like, hey man, no problem. Just one shot. Dude, just perfection. Effortless. I bet you his son could do the same. I think the Anderson's just are built that way. Yeah. Yeah. I think they're just built that way. By the way, random while we were filming Jim Conner in Australia, the Anderson's just showed up on set because they were down there. Oh, doing it. Yeah. Yeah. Just like randomly shut up. And I forget how much I enjoy Ryan Anderson. Like just such a, such a good dude. I enjoy all of them. They're just great people. Dennis, all of them. I mean, as a kid, I loved Grave Digger and Dennis Anderson. And it's of all of the people that I've met in my life, like from, you know, pro like racers to pro snowboarders, like all these cool people who I got to get close to because of what we do. I think Dennis Anderson is the one that like makes me the most giddy because I love the one I was like when you're a little, when you meet people that were hero status, when you were young, it's so different than meeting other people. Oh yeah. Well, you know what? They have like, I think they all get it from Dennis because Dennis is perfect at it, right? But like, you know, when it comes to somebody's signing autographs or doing fan work, you know, like the interaction, like he's just so flawless. And he just makes everybody feel like family basically, right? And like, Ryan's really good at it. Adam's really good at it. Sister's really good. Teeny man's really good, you know, like, but they just, they all, you know, inherited that ability to like sit there and, you know, sign autographs. The other day I sent Ryan a video. I was out in Moresville. And my, actually I was with Chris Clark, right? Okay. And his son was like showing me all his favorite like monster truck toys. And he's like, this is my favorite. And it was, it was Ryan, it was a son of a digger, right? And I said, I sent him a video of it. And he's like, hey, let's say kid's name, you know, as I sent it to him. And then like 20 minutes later, I got like a three minute video. Right. Hey, man, just so you know, like just talking to the kid, I was like, man, that's, that's awesome. Like, yeah, to do that. You know, I didn't ask him to, you know, that nobody asked him to. But it was like to go that far to just make a kid feel awesome. Yeah. Yeah. Good people. And that's like probably the best marketing for that stuff too, you know, because it's like children are. Well, you think about it, they do like the most badass stuff. I mean, honestly, the level at which monster trucks right now is just so different. All right. Backflips, all this kind of crazy stuff. And they do it for six year olds. Yeah. Right. Like it's probably one of the craziest motorsports and with the youngest audiences. Like it's weird if you think about it that way, because you think like more people like us would be watching Monster Jam. I mean, I'm into it, but not as into it as six year old. Yeah. I think that was one of the coolest build biologies we ever did. Oh, yeah. So having that in there and sitting in there. Hey, we had it. And how quickly he pulled that in. We brought, were you there at Irwindale when it was there? Yeah. This is insane. We had a thing in the burn yard and at the. Yeah. And then watching them like swap a motor and like a couple hours and we're going at it again. Like, dude. You took grenade a motor and then you'd be like, oh, no, we got this. You guys want to get lunch real quick? Yeah. Good group of mechanics too. And I was talking to them. They're super fun. Yeah. I was like, man, that looks like it's leaking pretty good. And he's like, that's how you know there's oil in it. And I was like, all right, they're just normal guys. Now, man, and like, but the, you know, you're saying like nobody likes it more than the six year olds, right? But it's it is that one motor sport where kids and adults can both enjoy it equally as like it's like, that was badass. Right. Yeah. Like, yes. You know, no, I mean, I look, and this is like a whole podcast on its own, but I think that every other motor sport could learn a ton from Monster Jam. Like, I mean, and not just Monster Jam, but everything fell does because Super Cross is also really good. Yeah. They understand how to create a really good show. When we were first doing Jim Connard grade, I had never been to a Super Cross event, right from the East Coast. It's like not as big and Ken said, you know, we're doing, we're putting grid together and we're talking about it. And Ken was like, I want you to fly out and go to Anaheim one. Yep. You need to see, you need to go to A1. You need to see Super Cross. You need to understand what a good show is. And he brought out like me and Derek and a bunch of the team. And at first we got there like, oh, whatever. And then like once the show starts, you're like, yeah, these guys understand the entertainment side of motor sports in a way that no one else gets it. Well, that's why like also, so, you know, they basically rent out Angel Stadium and they keep dirt there on site, right? So the logistics behind both those shows. Now that I have to do shows myself, right? Like I look at that and like, holy shit, like it's really smart. They figured out it's cheaper to just like rent, permanently rent like a section of the lot, keep a bunch of shipping containers of dirt there, right? And then they basically lay that dirt down and then they have, what was it? Like they have like three monster jam, monster jam events and they have A1 kind of like or A1, A2 and 3. Yeah. All within like kind of the same stretch of like six, seven weeks, something like that, but like they pack it out, right? It's full 60,000 people. They're doing something that the baseball team ain't doing. No. And like they have, it's profitable still that they can like be like, oh, yeah, we'll need Angel Stadium for two months, you know, like that can't be cheap. But like it's the logistics behind all that is absolutely insane. And like also the parking lot parties, like for the super cross like parking lot is absolutely stacked A. It's like there's a lot of like good looking chicks there too, which is wild that you don't see it in the motorsport events. Usually there's just a bunch of dudes, right? Yeah. But it's like motorcycles have always had that. Yeah, true. But like the parking lot was just a massive party for like 10 hours before the event even happened. Yeah. Now I remember going to the first super cross event and walking through it and it was like a truck show in the parking lot. Yeah. Like every truck was dope. It was just a bunch of pre-runners or lifted whatever. 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You're just like me. How was your event going? It's good, man. It's like, look, we didn't really get to talk much at, uh, after SEMA, but that event went well. You did. It's kind of funny to watch this because you left, you went and you did your own thing and then Hoonigan brought you back to run the thing that started it all. Well, I mean, I knew that they got the space and then I knew that, you know, certain people were like no longer there, you know, and everybody, like, you know, it's just cool to be able to. So I actually made a call. I was like, Hey, you know, I'm going to be able to get it. Call. I was like, Hey, you guys want to do this, right? And like they, I knew they wanted to do a burn yard, right? So I was like, listen, just how about this? We'll figure out something. You just let us run our show. Like we've got, you know, two years of doing this and we have a rock solid crew, but also like way more infrastructure than Hoonigan ever had when it came to it. Cause we invested in all that, right? Yeah. Well, you actually became like event organizers. Yeah. Hoonigan was 30 different things at once. And one day a week, like two days a year, we'd be like, Hey, we're going to do an event. Yeah. And get after it. Yeah. And so like it was cool to be how that was, you know, it's a lot of responsibility, right? But we got to organize all the cars that are going to be there and all the logistics around everything. And so we had like 124 different cars. Then we rotated them out throughout the week. Whereas like before we'd maybe like, you know, you'd max out at like 40 because you know, keep them on site and stuff. And it just became like a wild show because we have a crew of just absolute psychopaths from all over the world that have been like rolling with us for the last, you know, two years. And, you know, it's been fun, right? We've been built a like family, but it was cool. Like to actually see it at the big show and see how it can operate. And it went off without a hitch. And it was, it was awesome. And it took a lot of load off. I think, you know, the Hoonigan team, because like, obviously they didn't have to think about all that shit. It's a, it's a ton of work to like organize that complete shit show. It's way more work than people realize. Yeah. It's a lot. And like, it just, I don't know, it was, it was awesome. And so it was like a culmination of it was kind of like that final sign off of like, or that, that stamp of approval, you know, that validation of like, fuck, yeah, we got this, you know. And I think it worked out. I mean, it worked out great for Hoonigan too. Like, I mean, that place was packed the entire time. And some absurd percentage of media from SEMA was just the burn yard. You know, I know it was crazy. Like an overwhelming amount of like, so heard this from a couple of different sources, but they're like, yeah, it's, it's wild. Cause like most of the shit that people were seeing on social was just all burn yards, you know, Freddie on fire or whatever, like the, the dude, Devin crawling up the container didn't expect that one. But like, no, could have ended really bad. Yeah. But you know, he had it before you sent me the video in my feed with someone standing near the container and it just said, almost died at burn yard today. It was awesome. And it's, it's the kids super close to the car comes spinning out of me, kind of runs away. Yeah. It's like so raw because it's just filming, not expecting the one of the things we so in years before we never did this, right? And we're like, you'd always see like people hit the container and they're like, move back, you know. So what we did this year is actually we put K rails long ways, right. And to basically go up against the curb. So we knew that those containers couldn't move this year. Oh, okay. Right. And so we built it that way, just in case like somebody smacked into it and like a truck or something, you know, that way it's like, you know, we know it's not going to take somebody's foot out or something like that. Did you go to summer of shred the first one we ever did at LS Fest? Nope. You were there though. Oh hell yeah. I actually wasn't because I was on a different job. So like I concepted the whole thing. Cause we were talking, cause this was when daily transmission was, you know, doing really well. And I think we had this conversation of like, man, it'd be really cool to do in front of a live audience. We came up with the idea of summer of shred and you guys went to Holly LS Fest and did that there. And then I remember cause you came back and you said to me, uh, Cletus said he's going to do the same exact thing, which is like, he's like, I love this cause we invite, I mean, he was one of our guest drivers was with Leroy. That was Leroy was new. Yeah. And he was literally like right after he's like, man, this is sick. Cause I'm going to steal this. I was like, you should. Yeah. Yeah. Years later, you know, now he's got. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that was, that kind of was a big thing for him. And the burn, I mean, and that, and I was listening to him talk the other day that the burnout stuff that he did is the reason that they bought the track because they started to realize like, ooh, we could build an audience or something to come. But I'm stoked to see you guys do burnout wars. Cause you know that it was always my dream for us to take burn yard on the road. I mean, we did Irwind out and we did Irwind out every week, every month. Yeah. Six months straight. Oh yeah. And we would have kept doing it if the lockdown didn't happen. The very, remember we did the event the day before the lockdown came. Yeah. And someone, because no one knew what COVID was yet. Yeah. So everyone's like, I don't know, there's this thing, it's COVID. But we weren't even calling it COVID then it was still coronavirus. So like, I don't know, it was coronavirus and that kid collapsed in the front row. Do you remember that? Oh yeah. So it was the last burn yard we ever did at Irwind out. And the kid, it was the biggest one we ever had and the kid collapsed and fell over. And everyone was like, he's got the Corona. We're all going to die. We all went over there. Like, I don't know what should we do? I don't know, spraying with hand sanitizer. Let's keep it moving. And then he woke up and we're like, all right, more burnouts. Let's go. Let's keep it going. The, you know, I don't know, I correct me if I'm wrong here, but didn't that thing sell like 10,000 tickets in like less than a day? The last one, the last one was, I don't think it was 10, but I think we did 7,500 something. I mean, it was the largest we could fit for that space. Yeah. So, because technically it wasn't the main, you know, the main area. There's a banger though. It was crazy. That was a crazy, crazy night. That was actually, you know, to see Ken whip the Hoonicorn at like full anger in that thing. Like, you forget how fast the Hoonicorn is until you see it in a small area that a bunch of other cars are doing stuff in that you thought was cool. And then the Hoonicorn is three times the speed. It doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense. When you see it, you visit, I couldn't make sense of it in my brain. How fast that was moving and able to change direction. I know. And it really doesn't look, it didn't look real. And this is why the Jim Conner films always worked in a way that like the Rural Drive films don't work the same because the speed of the all wheel drive cars coming out of stuff is just like, you can go do a donut and then be back at 60 miles an hour again in two seconds where it's like harder to do that in the Rural Drive cars and you just don't get the same experience. It's like when you watch that in a small little spot, you're like, oh, yeah, that's how that looks really fast. You know, the first year that I was down at Baja when Mason trucks started coming out, I remember being at a corner and just watching. By the way, Mason trucks are the all wheel drive trucks. They were like kind of the guys to paint to pioneer the all wheel drive trophy truck. Yeah. And I remember sitting there watching a corner where like two wheel drive trucks were coming through and then I saw a Mason truck come through and I was like, oh, shit, there's no way that any of these guys are catching up because they were just like instantly just fully wooded out of it. And they were just shooting out of these corners like slingshots. Oh yeah. I mean, that was what made Ken want to start racing. Baja was like, oh, there's, there's an all wheel drive truck I could move into. Like that would be a lot of fun because that was just, you know, his style and how he enjoyed it. So yeah, man. Anyway, but back to Bernyard. Um, yeah, man, it was cool to see that. So are you guys still doing burnout wars? You got how many events show this year? So we already got eight on the schedule. Um, we're waiting for, I mean, I don't know when this is going live, but, uh, it's Christmas special, but, uh, so we're trying to figure out if, uh, we're trying to just work a deal out with NASCAR to see exactly what tracks we can do it at. Um, we did our first one last year at a Land and Motor Speedway at the Quaker State 400. It was awesome. Cause you know, realistically NASCAR has gotten, it's not as like aggressive and you know, rowdy as it used to be, right? And so I know that must make you sad. Well, you know, but you know, they don't have holes in the helmet for their cigarettes. Exactly. And you know, it was, it was one of these things where as soon as we'd start lighting off cars, like just all of the crowd was like, well, who is that familiar sound that I needed in my life? You know, like little kids with mullets losing their mind, you know, and it was cool. Like it was like, this is bad ass. Obviously we had, we had to work for like a really small space too. So we basically were running demos, but like, it was just cool to see the very last show being, you know, it had a lightning delay and it pushed us back to basically 40 or so minutes before the actual race is supposed to start. So there's like a ton of people already in the stadium, bunch of people walking in and then the sky comes around, I said, fire it up, fire it up. We can go now. Right. Cause like the light, you know, you have to wait like 30 minutes or whatever for a lightning delay. And so as soon as Zach's truck fired off and then, you know, I was on the microphone and he finished his run and I'm like yelling something over a microphone to turn around and I'm looking at the back of the stadium and like every one of the causeways, right? So like, you know, where you get like concessions and stuff. Well, they're kind of open air, right? And they got a little like metal fencing and stuff, but it was like every single square inch where somebody could be standing in this gigantic stadium is packed with people like going on over there, you know, and then like all of the balconies for the VIP stuff, like just packed his people. I was like, Oh, this is cool. You know, it was just like people like it, you know, I mean, obviously it's really hard to just, it's really hard not to enjoy like thousand horsepower blown meth and all VH just, you know, putting it on the chip and just letting it eat. Very true. It's crazy. Cause when we started all this, even just in the early Hoonigan days, like I'm talking, you know, Hoonigan, you know, sub 100,000 followers days. We would always share all the Australian burnout cars. And it's like, how is this not a thing in the States? Yeah. Like how is this not a thing? And it really, I don't think became a thing until the past two or three years. Like I think now you actually have Americans building Aussie style burnout cars and not just that you have the Aussie shipping cars here. So that's still one of the craziest days that ever existed. Oh, yeah. You remember that? Yeah, I almost died. Yeah, we all did. This is all of Long Beach. Almost Long Beach. All of Long Beach. Almost died. Were you behind? I went with the, I had such a great time with them. I went with them to power crews. Oh yeah. They invited me. They're like, yeah, you got to come mate. I went there and I fully accepted that this was the end. I was like, I'm going to die here. By the way, Brad, you're always like, how you doing? Do you remember Cranky was full of met, was it full of methanol? Yeah. They just fit like, because the pumps kept going and broke and it was just like three inches of methanol and they're like, all right. Yeah, we're good. Yeah. Most casual people. Yeah. No, it's funny because like, you know, Mick Brasher was basically on the circuit with us all year this year. Yeah. And like, you always ask about you, by the way. Dude, definitely come hang with him. Again, those guys are great people. And that is what got us kicked out of Long Beach. Yeah. But it was worth it. Yeah. It was totally worth it. I rode with Lynchie around Brainerd with no seatbelt, no helmet, going like a buck 20 passing cars on the drag strip, completely sideways, no brakes. And I was like, this is it. This is where I die. You know. And I'm all right. Being one of my first summer nets I went to. I watched Lynchie win and it was the craziest feeling because like, you know, it was the first time I think a naturally aspirated cars won in like a really long time. And I feel like you couldn't go into like a better dude because, you know, he's like Andrew's like a farmer, you know what I mean? Like you need just like rocks up to burnout events and then drives like a full on psychopath. But I watched this dude do like a 720 into like his tip and was like one, two, three, four, and then like he went all the way to the exit little area and then like spun it into that and then back and it was just like, it's wild to watch. And like we've had him at a bunch of like burnout wars events throughout the last year or two. And like, it's just bad ass to watch it see. But like that's one of, you know, we're trying to build a sport here. Just kind of like Australia. It's like it's like an actual like. Real sport. Yeah. And, you know, that's always been the effort with burnout wars. We didn't really do that with Hoonigan. It was like a showcase, right? It's just like, hey, just party. Yeah. But like to have all the Australians over here and, you know, basically build a little family with those guys, but like, you know, it gives this like awesome benchmark for people to see like, this is where you need to be at, right? Yeah. And like all those dudes have been rad to roll with because like they've been sharing information, like helping dudes out like, hey, like you don't have this setup, right? You know, like it just fixings, you know, because it's a very specific kind of like thing, you know, list of things that you kind of need. It's not. Yeah. 160 mile an hour wheel speed at a standstill is a specialized sport. Yeah. You'll imagine the trial and error, you know, the first tire to go at 200 miles an hour. Yeah. Yeah. It's a really. Right through the wheel well. Yeah. And then also hard lesson. Well, also too, like their, their knowledge of like, you know, like they'll go and run test runs, you know, and they come back and like, guys, like maybe you should just do this in second gear because like tires are going to go too quick, you know, like they could, you know, and like just helping everybody else out with like, hey, how do you do a better run? You know, and everybody's still got that comradery. It's not like drag race and we're like, everybody's keeping it. It's all secretive. Yeah. All gatekeeping. The one, I think the thing that was most impressive to me with those guys in when they came to 621 was how much control they had. Cause I just figured they just went out willy nilly and hit stuff and whatever, but they were just like inches off the wall, like totally knew where their car was, like some crazy situational awareness considering they can't see anything. Like once the smoke fills the cabin, like they're just like feeling it all out. It's just Braille and they, but they, they got it. And then when I went to, when I was in Australia, we went to Sydney Motor Sports Park to test the, um, the brat with Travis and they have a burnout pit there. Like a proper burnout pit. I couldn't believe how small it was. Like I didn't like in my, you know, like it always just seems like it's bigger on camera and you go and you look and like, man, this is crazy to think the level of like tipping these guys would do. And it's not much bigger. It's longer, but it's not much bigger than like the area you guys have at CMO, like why, like with wise, you don't want it to be, you know, like, you know, of course it's like a punk rock show. It makes it more intimate. Hell yeah. Well, I think coming from drifting, you look at the burnout stuff, you're like, yeah, whatever, it's just burnout. But after riding with those guys in their cars and seeing how much actual talent it does take to do what they do. And it makes a lot more sense when you're actually in the vehicle of what they're doing with the proximity and how they're pitching it in order to go backwards and come so close to the walls and stuff like that. I was like, dude, these guys are good at this. All right. So let's switch the topic to drifting. Let's talk drift Appalachia because or however, how are you supposed to say Appalachia for you guys? Appalachia doesn't matter. Appalachia. All right. Drift Appalachia, drift Appalachia. Cause you've been doing a bunch of it. It is probably my favorite thing to see on Instagram. I've only missed one. I feel like I wish drifting became this 15 years ago. It would be interesting to see how different drifting would be, but I'm really excited about the future of drifting because there, I think there needs to be a lot more of this. I think there will be because it is the most entertaining thing to watch. It looks so good. Yeah. I don't even know, like I'm watching some of it. I'm sitting there being like, is that a second gear, but it doesn't matter cause it looks like the consequences are super high. We have one course that is second gear. I mean, very for every car, right? But most of the guys were running an LS or something like that. We'll be in second gear. Um, 80 mile an hour wheel speed stuff. Yeah. Uh, we'll get higher there, but most of the ones in Kentucky are, I mean, you're over a hundred mile an hour wheel speed. So it's all third year, third to fourth. So let me ask you guys, how is that set up? Is that just like a section of road that's just shut down by police? And then you get like, do you have like basically sections where people can run and then they have to open it back up to traffic or so? And before we even get there, just explain to everyone listening home who may not have this yet in their algorithm, but definitely wants in the algorithm. What the guys at backgrounds of Appalachia and drift out of Malaysia have done in terms of like access, road access and kind of, I think, changing sort of what American drifting at least looks like in the middle of the country. So it's kind of a group of guys that have worked everything together. The drift group, it's guys from drift, Andy and us drift. And they have just basically found, searched for the best roads in Appalachia. Yeah. Able to speak with the communities, work it out with the guys that we can shut down this area of road. We have a nice little tour every single time we go, we go out and we go to the community, we have a nice drive out with all the cars so everybody can see the cars. You can't spectate the event. It's too dangerous. Oh yeah. Nice. It's something that you definitely would love to spectate, but you can't because it's too dangerous. If you're there, it makes sense. And even if you see it in the videos, if you go on Instagram or YouTube, look up Drift Appalachia, Drift Appalachia, whatever it is. And you will be amazed. It is really, really fun to watch. It looks sick because it's like Grand Prix to Formula One is like, this is like the Grand Prix because you're on public roads technically, right? But it's like the craziest twisties through a mountain and you got trees aligned and everything. It's like tarmac rally stage. Yeah. Spec roads. But it's also the quality, there's some great drivers that are showing up. But did you see, because I know this, have you seen the Plymouth Satellite that runs it? Yeah, dude. Like. It's wild. I was talking to him. Kylie Mac. Yeah. Dude to be such a, it's so cool to see that car on those roads. It just feels so. And he's so cool, calm, collected. He's very consistent. He's one of my favorite drivers to drive with. Yeah. And I was telling you early about it. It's fun for me and the Miata to be stuck behind him. You can't see it. But when I'm driving behind Kylie, I always find myself watching his car and not looking at what the fuck I'm actually. Well, it's because you can't see around it. Not even that. It's just, it's, it's mesmerizing to see that car swinging out. Yeah. And when you see it, it just doesn't make sense, but it totally does. It's like, we're in Appalachia. This is kind of some moonshine running shit right here. And it just looks so good. Like I've seen it. Sounds cool. I've seen muscle cars. A lot of guys have tried it. Like there's been Camaros and a bunch of different stuff. You know, obviously Vaughn built that Mustang back in the day and like I've seen them out on track and it looks cool. But there's something about seeing muscle cars on like good old back roads that feel like there's something out of like a country music song. And it's just so good. Well, I think that Drift Appalachia is so unique and cool in the fact that it's all American bread out there anyway, right? And the roads are brilliant. Like, I mean, it's so good and the community is really supportive of it too. So when we go out there, we go downtown, you know, it's like, we're going to go out and we're going to spend all the money we can. It's usually small towns. The organizers are really good because it's back roads of Appalachia used to also and still do. They do a bunch of hill climb stuff. They're involved in the rally stuff. And I think they've been really good at working with all the communities in that area to not just get good access, keep it safe, make it cool, but also to make all the communities feel like they're getting something out of it. Right. As a driver, and I don't know if a lot of people know that we don't even know where we're going. Oh, really? You get an email. Oh, I love this. You want to go? I love this. You want to go? And everybody's waiting. Everyone. I want to go. It does it. You want to go? Yeah. But I mean, if you're into drifting right now, you know, if you want to, you want to be there, everybody wants to go from professional down to grassroots. Doesn't matter. Everybody wants to go. See it. Check it out. Yeah. And you're just waiting for the call. Right. It's basically, Hey, here's your email. We're going to let's call it Kentucky. Yeah. Somewhere. And we'll let you know closer, but you have to lock in for this date to this date, whatever. So you get the email, you check that out, then you reserve your hotel. You get a pick of one or two, because it's really small towns. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, you pick that. And then you drive there and you got a week pretty much allotted to staying at this place wherever you are. And then the night of the shoot out another email, which is basically map quest, you're not allowed to take a picture of it. You can't do anything. It's basically map quest. All right. Six AM, get up. We're meeting at this spot. So that's the keep away all the other traffic and anybody who could come from the outside. Yeah. I mean, we can't even tell our friends, right? You're allowed to bring one person to kind of help you out. Some guys bring a couple more if you have a really serious car or something, but it keeps it small. It keeps it tight and they try to, you know, kind of cycle through some drivers, right? Like if you've done a couple, let's bring in some new guys, get a something, but what a cool feeling. And you drive in the morning. Nobody knows where you're going. And then, you know, you're just kind of just cruising around and race guys are like looking through the mist of the mountains, like, where the fuck are we going? But it's like everything you're looking at is like, is this the road? Cause this is sick. And then some of the roads you get on, you're like, I don't know if I can do this and then that ends up being the road. You know, you're driving down it and you get, you drive past and they're like, God, how would you think of the drive in? It's like, man, that's pretty neat. Like, well, that's what we're driving today is like, fuck everybody's looking at each other like, who's going first? Nice. So other than being like an old school rave where you got to like go meet a guy in a park and then get like a map, how do they do the shut down? So is it actually like police shutdown roads? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So, um, you know, it'll be run pretty much. Let's call it nine AM to four PM and every hour on the hour, 15 minutes. They allow traffic through. Okay. And there's not much. Yeah. And most of the time people, it's a small town, so people get keen to it and they definitely want to see and drive through and they're just looking, but imagine you just live there and you pull up and you see all these dudes pulled off to the side of the road with fucking parts flying everywhere. Like if you crash, it's not, you're just picking up your bumper. Like there's stuff everywhere. So it's wild looking. Who is so of all the ones you've been to, right? Like who are some of the guys that nail it, like the fastest cars there? Like that they can really just turn it up and just bang. I mean, it's a handpicked group and a lot of guys are really good, but you see some of the usual suspects that one of my good friends from St. Louis, Andrew Lewis, he's a fast driver. He's really fun to chase. I really enjoy chasing him because he'll bring you up a gear. Okay. But I mean, seeing any of the pros come out there and do something. Chelsea does. He's always doing something stupid. Chelsea's got a hundred PSI in the rear of a stock Mustang going ham. Reese Marin is he's, I call him paint to paint because, you know, it's really narrow. But Reese, he don't give a shit. He's going from paint to paint every single time, just swaying off the bumper. And I was like, well, I don't really want to chase him because what if he goes off, then I'm going to hit him, but I also want to chase him because it looks sick. Yeah. But I think some of the most impressive are Matt Kaufman and Matt Field. Oh yeah. Matt Kaufman does Matt Kaufman stuff on the mountain. You know, I can see that like Matt Kaufman at Laguna Seca and to turn one too. Yeah. It's just, yeah. Exactly. But, you know, seeing that on the mountain is something different. And then seeing the C8 this year with Matt Field was, I mean, the sound of it just coming through the mountains. You know, he's coming and then you just can't explain the speed of it. You can see everybody else relatively moving fast. You have to. Like it doesn't matter what cut from 200 to 600 horsepower. You're all kind of moving the same speed. Yeah. You kind of have to. I feel like this is the first thing I've seen in drifting in a long time. It's like made me really excited to want to go shoot drifting again. Like when I first met you, the, the bashes were a lot of fun. I really enjoyed going to the bashes and not so much because the driving was top, top level, but the, the mood, the vibe was super rad. Whether it was where you guys had no star bash, lone star bash, um, you know, obviously East Coast bash, right? All star bash. They just had like a cool vibe and it was a really cool era. And then since then, I feel like a lot of stuff kind of moved, you know, to bigger tracks, which is cool. And the Laguna looks like a lot of fun, but it's, it is what it is. Yeah. This is like, man, I could see going out there and just like making a movie. Like it's really good. I mean, for me, like I really love grid life and all of those things like that. And, you know, the bucket list tracks, that's something in drifting that, you know, I have to do it. Going out to walk in Glen or whatever. It's like, yeah, I have to, like I just got to do it. But the first time I went out to the mountain, I was hooked. I was like, this is what I've been dreaming of my whole life. I grew up on back roads like this. I did this when I shouldn't have. So I really enjoyed that part of it. And I was like, you know, there's a little shithead in me that loves this. But also is like, I really pride myself on being a clean driver and not having any mistakes. And that's something I really thrive on out there is like, well, I like to go really fast and just feed me pavement and I'll figure it out. You know, and I think that's a really enjoyable part of drifting that I think I don't really care for at the track. Like I don't care to really flick it and drag the wall and lose a bumper for no reason, but if it's in the mountain, I'll risk it a little harder. And it's kind of weird. Yeah, that setting is like there's I mean, there's something just mystical about it. You know, like setting is everything, right? And the way it looks is so sick. Like on camera, it looks really bad ass. So the best is at the end of the day, once, you know, in the morning, everybody's nervous. Yeah, some of the guys have never been there before. You're nervous. You're trying to memorize the road and what to do. Everybody's driving fairly far apart or in their own groups. I'm driving with this guy, I'm driving with that guy. But once you get to the end of the day or even on day two, when everybody's a little bit hungover and starting not to care, but you memorize the road, you're starting to gel with each other. You had the night to talk about what you did. And that's basically one of the most fun parts of it is day one. Once you're done and you come back, you're like, we survived something. You feel like you came back from war. Like who's here? You look around and you're like, he made it through the night. Yeah. I mean, it's no shit when you drive through the course. Sometimes you don't know who's off. You could just see a roof and everybody's still drifting. And we're like, Oh, I don't know. And then you get back to the lineup and you're like, who we missing? But, but, you know, you get back to day one from day one, you're talking about it. And that's when we go hang out with everybody downtown, talk about the day and everybody kind of collects himself. Day two, everybody comes out way too hard. Different location or same location? Sometimes they do a different location, right? But most of the time now it's kind of sticking to the same one. Now confidence is through the roof. Well, when the confidence gets up, yeah, day two, that's when it's like, oh, shit's going down today. Yeah, that's when you get 10 cars out there at the same time. Everybody's just on each other's door and yeah, it's loose. It's American toge. Like I think we've never really had that. I mean, I know there's been a lot of like illegal toge stuff that happens, but this was cool because I think Europe had a version of it where where they started drifting a lot of the hill climb events. So you'd see that, especially Eastern Europe. And it was like, man, that looks really cool. Obviously you don't see as much of it coming out of Japan. I'm saying it's not happening, but you're not seeing as much of it coming out of Japan as we did when we were younger. And this is just like, it looks great. It looks awesome. It's one of those things where it makes me like if I was watching that as a 20 year old kid, I'd be like, yep, that's what I want to be looking for. Yep, exactly. And I think it's something that people can aspire to. You know, it's like you have to put in the work to get there. You, everybody's watching is basically kind of where it goes. It's like, we're watching for the good drivers who are consistent because we're all a team out there. Yeah. That's, you know, he goes aside. We all have to be a team or we're all going to die. Oh yeah. So that's kind of it. We're all driving together and it becomes kind of a family thing out there. It's really interesting, but for you, the cinematography of it, the videos, it's just amazing. I mean, even just the regular, anything like that, even just the iPhone stuff, you're like, that's a killer shot. It all just looks so good. And if you're standing on the side there and you realize like, shit, that's 300 feet down. Yeah. Don't step back when it gets real close. I, uh, like three years ago, I started writing a screenplay that I'm actually finishing right now. And it's basically like a story of like a modern moonshine setup. And one of the reasons I start, got back into it, I started writing the script before I left Hoonigan and I got back into writing the script because of watching those for that. I was like, I got to go film this. Yeah. This is just so sick. I'll say, like, I never left drifting. I've been drifting. Yeah. For years. And I love it. And I've always loved it, but it was stagnant for me for a while. I can admit that. And this just jolted it back in. I feel like a little kid. That's why my car is on a rotisserie right now. You know, I was like, I need more. I don't know what it is, but I need more. But if I don't need more, I have the Miata. There you go. Um, so yeah. But I mean, it's breathe the life back into me and drifting and I full bore. I will never miss one. Hell yeah. If I'm invited, I'm going. We need to see Dan with about 800 horsepower. Dan doesn't even need horsepower. I know Dan just needs. I know he didn't need it. Doesn't mean he can't. Well, let me tell you what, I just got my motor back and I think we're going to have at least 800 horse power. Is this the one J? It's a 2J. 2J. Uh, yeah. So fully built 2J. Um, and I'm going to put the squinch alone. Finally. Oh, I forgot about that. Yeah. Which one do you have? Albums ST6. But it's the big one. It's actually out of a V8 supercar. So I have the V8 supercar set up, which means I have to make kind of a little bit of a more modification. This is. Luckily, I think you know a guy who fabricates pretty well. Yeah. Yeah. Sick. It's kind of hard to get him to do it sometimes. Well, maybe the mountains breathe life back into Dan. Yeah. Speaking of unfinished projects, how's your truck doing? Which one? I don't know. What do you have nowadays? I'm paying attention. So I got my K5 still. That runs great. Makes way more power than it needs to. Yeah. It's like over a hundred more horsepower with the new motor setup. And it's like way more aggressive. Right. Just over a hundred from what? So I used to make 733. Now it makes 861. Yeah. Definitely a responsible amount of power. I know. But it's, you know, it's still great, you know, fires up every time, you know, it's just, you know, it's, it's reliable. It's a big block. You know what I mean? It's not like stretched to its limit by any means, you know, still pretty like you could daily it if you can afford it. Yeah. Yeah. I hear you. I mean, I have a van that now it's still working out, still teething some issues, but engine wise, it's great. And it's like 700 is like the beginning of the tune. It's like, I don't know why I need this. Yeah. Well, but it's cool to have. Yeah. Then I just, we just got the Tahoe running. I did a shakedown run actually just last week. And it's completely undrivable on the street. I mean, it's drivable, but it's like as soon as you breathe, any throttle onto it, it just blows the drag radials off. So you, you built that to be at this first that. Yes. Originally, I mean, that was like when this first that was sort of booming for us. Yeah. And I'm like, I'm going to build a TVT car. Obviously a lot has changed since then. Yeah. We all left TVT is no longer a thing. So what is it now? Is it still just a drag car or is it going to become? So I wanted, I because I again, I built it to do like drag and drive stuff. And it was like real fast. And then, you know, we just nuked everything. And then once we started doing burnout wars, I was like, well, I've always wanted a big like eight, 10, 71, whatever, like sticking through the hood on something. So I was like, let's just, you know, I'll build it for burnouts. But like I kept the four wheel drive system. Right. Yeah. Because like, you know, four wheel drive burnouts look way sicker. Who had that red Chevy pickup truck? I was all will drive at. Oh, that thing was ripping. Dude, that. Yeah. That thing eats. It was just cool to watch center access donuts in a pickup truck and a full in like, yeah, full size and a relatively like simple setup. I mean, like same basically front diff and stuff that I run and transfer case. It rips. So, but yeah, built that, built like a, you know, blown 427 for it. And, you know, it's it's like way too race car now. It was supposed to stick kind of like it was supposed to like tow the line of like street car, but now it's like just even just shaking it down. I was like, I have to have a race seat in this thing because like there's no way. What's in there now? Like a bench or something? No, like a big comfy leather GM. A barked a lounger. But yeah, basically like a. So, but yeah, it's it's rad. So Supe is actually going to finish up the wiring on it this week. And actually tomorrow is going to take it over to his shop. And then we can actually finally dyno it. We took it to the dyno before SEMA and then we're having some problems with the transcontroller communicating with the transmission. So we had to break it in only had like first and second gear. And just for some reason wouldn't shift up. We got that figured out. And so, yeah, like I'm excited to see what kind of power it actually puts down. But like C to the pants dyno, it's definitely making over a thousand foot pounds like effortlessly. So that's rad. Completely unnecessary. And then the the turbo escalate. I got a I got a I forgot that you I thought that was supposed to be Mike's. It is. But I gave he has the title I gave to him. But like he had nowhere to store it. And I was like, I let's just do something stupid with it. And, you know, Chris Clark, oh, whatever, anyway, like I was like, hey, you know what? Some of it's got this like turbo kits that they're making now. Like let's just do like a budget bill to see if we can make 600 wheel for less than $6,000 all in with the cost of the car. So it was like completely stock motor. I wound up putting my spare trans for the Tahoe in it, right? So that obviously would blow the budget way out of the water. But I figured like, you know what, that 4L 65 would have just nuked itself like instantly. Yeah. So like monster garage rules. Like it's a $5,000 budget, but Jesse just gave you a $20,000 transmission. So you're fine now. But that thing eats and it's so stupid how well like it pisses me off because like it is a 300,000 mile stock LQ nine with a turbo on it. Giant injectors and like two fuel pumps and just bigger fuel lines. That's it. And a tune, right? HP tuners, whatever. And like it made 895 foot pounds of torque on the dyno. Like we were like, how is this not just throwing a rod out? They're always the ones. I think those are always the ones just try not to build power and then you build power. Yeah. Like Ron was like, I'm going to build a 400 horsepower Evo. And somehow he built an 850 horsepower Evo. He's like, I wasn't trying to make that power. Meanwhile, everyone else I know is like, we're going to make a thousand horsepower. And it's like 727. Yeah. Like what? What? That was a thousand. Like, I don't know. It didn't work out that way. Yeah. When you don't try, it just comes easier. Yeah. But I will say the compression on that motor, so I could turn it over with a three eighths ratchet with all the spark plugs in it. And like the power curve looks like a bell curve. So like you cram a bunch of boost into it and like it'll make the power but it starts like T and off like whatever. But it was fun for doing, you know, multi block long burnouts and stuff. Yeah. We Ron had designed those. Those spinners. Yeah. It was Cuban link gold spinners and put those on it. That was fun, you know, but I got a I I smoke the transmission in it because I was happy, you know, that was we welded the diff because it basically the diff said no more after, you know, you don't have to explain to either of us why you welded the diff in. Yeah. But then we didn't do it right. Right. Like so basically caused a bunch of binding in the rear end. So it was like trying to drag a boat, right? And then, you know, driving it around, doing a couple more multi block long burnouts with it, because, you know, that's what it's for. Yeah, might have got that trans up to about 500 degrees, which not good in the world of transmissions. So that happened. So I got to pull that thing out. So that's really the only truck that's not running right now. So the Corvette still, yeah, got the second one. I had that Grand Sport for a while. I sold that to Freddie LSX. OK. And then I wound up, I missed it a lot and I found this like impossible deal on a ZO6 in Florida. Oh, OK. And then ZO6 is the move. Yeah, I love that. It's one of the ZO6. Changed my mind about Corvettes. It's one of those cars when I do it's a C6. Yeah, C6. C6, ZO6, I think is one of the greatest cars. It's great. It's fantastic. It's perfect. Like because it's not. Rebs, it's fun to drive. It handles really well. You could take it stock to the track and rip like it's fun. I will say that it's an earlier one. So like it doesn't have like all the heat and sound insulation. Yeah, like the the center console, if you put your phone in it, it will like go into limp mode. Like the phone will be like overheating because it gets like a billion degrees in the torque tube area. I'll tell you a quick story on that. When it first came out, it wasn't even available for sale. The dealership yet GM gave me one when I was at Rides magazine. And you know, the Bull Run rally. Yeah. So it's like, yeah. Goldbergs thing, right? Yeah, it was kind of like Team Move, Gumball rally. And we did New York to LA. And I was still like an absolute shithead at that point in my life. And we were cruising through Utah for like, I don't know, like two hours at over one fifty. And we got to we got to the hotel that night and I went to go take my luggage out and it had melted to the carpet in the back. Yeah. Yeah. Like the actual like plastic from the luggage had just melted into the carpet because it got so hot. Yeah. A similar story. When I got so I bought that in Florida, right? And Shannon from Hobby Shop Garage had like picked it up and like stored it for me until I could fly there. And then I did like heads cam. By the way, funny thing when I pulled the valve cover off, I wish I would have filmed this. But like one of the valve retainers was like kicked up and it was like ready to drop a valve because like that's why I got it so cheap. Nobody ever fixed the heads or anything like that. And you could like rock the valve like this in the seat. Yeah, probably not good. But yeah, I did the heads cam stuff and then did burnout wars in Orlando. And then I drove it from Orlando to Houston and I did it in like eight hours, right? Which is like. Common. Yeah. Yeah. And that's with three gas stops, right? So that was like a, you know, pretty consistent, one fifty five ish, you know, cruise control. It got great gas control. Yeah. Like, you know, I left really early in the morning and then, you know, and like, dude, that thing was getting like nineteen miles to the gallon even with a cam like that's six gear. Like it would do like thirty miles to those control work at one hundred and fifty. Yes, yes, it does. It's an early, you know, it's an O seven. So, you know, they didn't have all the bullshit controls. Keep pressing the plus. It's a so it's a T fifty six car. And so the gearing so long, like with the cam, like you can't even use six gear and tell them in like ninety. Yeah. You know, and then like it one fifty. It's at like twenty four hundred RPM. You know, so it's like it's so wide. Yeah, it's a it's a great car. I absolutely love those. I never liked that. I didn't either. But that car made me change my mind. And now I got a same man like slammed, kitted C five's on cool wheels. I'm into I did. I saw it on three books. Still, I didn't get to finish my sentence. I never liked him. But. But I did get to drift one. And then I was really mad at the last ten to fifteen years of my life. I spent fucking building shit cars. And I think just works. Yeah, you put coilovers on it. OK, you're done. Yeah, I mean, look, for the money, right, like a C six zero six is basically unbeatable for the dollar amount. Like so I got mine for like thirty grand, right, which is like pretty that's super low. Right. But for like that, you could get them so for like forty thousand bucks, you could get a pretty nice one. That's like owned by a guy with new balances. Yeah, basically, you know, and like they are like you can't you can't match that level of performance for that dollar amount. You know, and it's like it's a it's a sick as fuck starting point, right? You don't even have to like put I mean, yeah, coilovers makes it way better. But you know, you can just drop it down on the on the what are those things called? Because it's got the it's got the transverse leaf springs. Oh, yeah. You know, so you just put the stops all the way down. Like it dumps it. Marriage suspension. Yeah, exactly. And like did. Yeah, they didn't change much. It works. It works. It works enough. It's not the best. You know, it's a fun car to drive. You know what, though? It's numb. It's kind of boring. The drifting drifting. Oh, the trick. You're fine. The crazy thing. I had never driven one with a stock shifter and that that one had it was all stock, right? And I was like, what the fuck is this? It felt so sloppy and gross. And like the moment I changed the shifter, just like the shifter alone was like, oh, it feels way tight. Like everything just felt so much better. So I will say shifter definitely helps. Probably, you know, fresher suspension to. Yeah, whatever. Yeah. What do you guys got planned for the new year? Anything good? I got to finish my S14. It's it's really not close. Yeah, I saw the photo of it. It looks as far from finished as it could possibly. It's like an afternoon. It's getting further away. Yeah, every time I work on it, it gets further away from being done. Take it from someone who's been there. It won't be bad. Sell it. It won't be bad. I mean, for me, this is I've always wanted a race car. I want to build myself a race car. So I've taken my time a little bit. Yeah, as I ran out of budget and then. Are you making content about this? Yes. Yeah. Well, I mean, I only say it like that because the other day I got to work on something and not use a camera while I was doing it. I'm like, this is so nice. Well, that's why it's where it is right now, because I was making content about it. Yeah. And I felt bad about it for a long time. And then I built basically the same set up for one of my friends with no cameras. And it was great. And it was great. It was fantastic. And I was like, well, there's no reason I can't do this myself because I literally just did it. So I'm going to do that and just kind of leave something on in the background just just live stream it. Just, you know, just do it. I'll explain what happened. I just want to I just want to show people what I've done. And I would really just more like to show it off as I'm driving this season in drift, Appalachia and drift into GP. Sounds like fun. Yeah. Great life to this year. We'll see. Yeah. Like I said, I mean, I love the big tracks, their bucket list things. But if there's a mountain anywhere near it, and I don't care what it is that don't invite me to anything. Unless it's the mountain. I like this. I like this new re-invigorated danger. Dan is good. I really love it. Hell yeah, brother. So guys, I brought this up before I want to say it live. I think we need to do like a reunion. It's good to have you guys around. Down. Yeah. I mean, I see you a little bit. I haven't seen you in forever. Yeah. But I think like get the whole crew together, go do something. You know, I've been itching to just get a bunch of shitty cars. It's all this is how the story always starts. Let's let's let's spit some. Let's spend the next 10 minutes, spit ball and some ideas. What do we do? OK, here's what we do, right? We kidnap everybody, right? OK, that's that's obviously that's how it starts. We get a bunch of we get it. We find a kidnap everyone. Yeah, we find a bunch of Jalapes. And then, you know what? We we should go on an adventure, preferably either on or off road. Preferably, if we're doing it off road, it should be in stuff that shouldn't be off road. 100 percent. Yeah. And Mexico. Mexico works. Yeah. You know, and then, you know what? We should just go have some fun. You know, if stuff breaks, well, we try to fix it. And then if if if not abandon it. Yeah, we leave it there with a title and, you know, the thank you note. I mean, like how big do you think we should go? You think we do like a cross country trip with like a mixture of everything in it? It'd be kind of cool if there's a way we can include like, you know, other stuff like, I don't know, off-shore raceboats, helicopters, you know, yeah. Yeah, all the way to die. Everybody pick a car, right? You pick a car. And then when we show up, you just straws for which car you actually get. Everyone's like, I don't want the car. Scott, I don't want the car. Scott, I don't. Yeah, the most. I'm like, um, so anyway, guys, so this is a really interesting Audi. The power steering system runs off of a special mineral oil that's only available in three states. Have fun. Lack of thinner work. Yeah, something I've always wanted to, you know, watching the hill climb stuff in Colorado, where they're doing it. And like, you know, second gen Camaros and like G bodies and stuff looks so fun, but like something just in the dirt with like an old, you know. So so here's the idea that I had. I had briefly I thought about was every person gets to and we'll keep it a secret for everybody else, but I'll I'll be like, you know, generally I like being the ringleader, so I'll figure out all these pieces, but I'll work with everyone or everyone gets to pick one thing we do, but then no one else knows what we're doing. So it's like there's the Zach event and like the Zach event could be what we're going to do in Colorado, but then no one knows how to prep their car because they just don't know what they're going to get into. Like they don't know what we're going to do. And then every day is like, I don't know, Dan's decided that we're going to we're going to call this mountain road and I'll die. And it's like, you know, everybody gets like a different thing that becomes like, OK, this is the day. We should just cause elements of danger. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It should be the end forever. Now, I just think it would be, did you ever do one of the what did you guys, did you do any of the big adventure trips? Or were you always stuck at home working? What are you talking about? Yeah, which one did you do? All of our shit worked because I was there working on it. I know. So you're saying because you didn't go to Baa for either of the trips. Did you? I did go. Yeah. You went to the second trip. What was that? The second trip? Was it the second trip of the first trip? No, I didn't go on the first one. OK, the second one. Because yeah, I went on the second. Did you come on the second one? Yeah, I came. No, no, no, no, no. You went on the hill. Oh, you went on that. Yeah, I drove the friggin Explorer with no windshield. Now you went on that one. You went on that one. That was a good trip. I wasn't there for that. The three story bunk bed. I fell off the top. Yeah, Brooks and Dan, man. Brooks and Dan. Because like for me, the, you know, it's years past now. I look back and it's like, I think Scumbug was one of the best trips. Oh, yeah. Super fun. Felt super dangerous the whole time. But even that road trip that you and I took in when we went and we bought the Oldsmobile and drove in the rain with no because you remember the Oldsmobile? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like just it wasn't a convertible. It was just hailed. Rufeless. We drove in the one of the worst like Midwest rain so much for like two hours. It just didn't stop. There was like water standing in the bottom. Like you push the gas pedal down and you'd hear like splashing noises because there's so much water in the car. And it was just great. I miss all they were all miserable while they were happening. But like I look back and I need one of those. You know, I forgot about that. I really enjoyed with Vince and Mike, of course, when we were in Mexico. Yeah, yeah. But Vince and I drove past our Airbnb because we were like, we got to jump this thing. We never even got a job. And I saw the guy with the excavator and I was like, fucking drive up to him. This is one of my favorite stories. Hey, uh. Speak English. She's like, yeah, man, what's up? And I was like, you build a jump. He's like, absolutely. How big? I was like, we got to go tell the guys. We found the right guys. Like, yeah, well, anyway, I own this part of the beach and we can do whatever we want. He's just built this massive jump. Yeah, just airing, airing that thing. And then you guys were jumping out of that pool too, right? You found the. Oh, yeah, we found it abandoned like so good. Yeah, that was actually the pool session. That thing felt like it felt like, you know, you'd found like a six spot to skate. Yeah, like that whole trip. It's way different to throw a skateboard over something into a pool than it is to drive a fucking Bronco into it or an explorer with no windshield. Oh, yeah, that was a fun trip, man. I forgot all about that. It was really good. Yeah, we did some cool shit. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, but like those those adventures were really fun. I mean, they they to be fair, some of them really sucked when it was like, oh, yeah, that should be a two hour drive and it took like 13. Yeah, that's all fun now. They forget those parts. Like, remember, like overheating in the middle of like woodward and having to push that thing? Kind of. But like, it's all a blur now. I also just remember how cool it was to just cruise it and like sit in the back and like, yeah, it's pretty cool. Dude's pulling up on like 30 inch rims on like. Yeah, it was a good time. That was good. The that would be a that would be a fun one. I think we should try to put that together. So, yeah, anyway, something. Yeah, comment below if you want to see this happen. And no comment below because like we don't have like Hoonigan budgets like that anymore. So comment below if we can stay at your house. Fix cars in your garage. Eat your food. Ask your mom and dad. You know, that's fantastic. Just staying on strangers' couch. Just crash along. You never know what you get into. I asked Brian if I could crash on his couch today and here I am on a podcast. Look, look, that's how you said the last hour and a half. You just showed up and here we are. So well, everybody, happy holidays, Merry Christmas, all that good stuff. Yeah, so thanks for coming out guys. Yeah, no worries, man. No plan. We talked about a bunch of random stuff. Hopefully it makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. So can't wait to go on a trip. You guys ready for a trip? Yeah, what's a good time of year? Probably when it's really hot. Let's go tomorrow or really cold tomorrow. Don't even hash it out. It should. No plan. Don't even hash it out. No plan. We'll pick up any on the way out and we'll go get hurt. Text text. Just text somebody. We'll pick you up. Remember, we're not texting anybody. It's kidnapping is where we started. You forgot to write. All right, right. I first rule. First rule of adventures. We're just kidnapping. Already forgot. Mid January, you know, starting the mountains. Yeah. And then just basically just we could just scroll through. We could scroll my marketplace saves and just hit something. Just see what we got. If this is the last episode of this podcast, you know where to find us. In a junkyard in Idaho, trying to figure out someone else's basement that we don't know. Oh, boys. Anyway, thank you very much, guys, for coming on. It's good to see you both. And yeah. Thanks for having us. Yeah, man. See you. This is a special thanks to all of you who not only watched all the way to the end, but helped make very vehicular a massive success already this year. Thank you very much from all of us here at the show. Happy holidays. We'll see you next year. I got a little secret to share and that's I like talking a lot and for long periods of time. Unfortunately, a lot of people know my secret, including my friends over at Viper Industrial who said you guys need stools that you can sit on for hours. They made us these really rad stools. It's their robust, but they did him custom. It says three, two, one action, action in the seat. Really nice brown leather. These things are great and you can modify them. We're going to do the adjustable back. We've already added the pneumatics. I mean, who doesn't love a stool that's probably built better than your car and has just as many mods. And if you're sitting home right now, listening to this in your garage, probably by yourself, check out your seating arrangement and question to yourself, do you deserve better? Because right now there's a holiday deal going on. Go check it out. ViperIndustrial.com. That's Viper with a Y. At Seaman this year, I hit up the Toyota Tread Pass, which is the best collection of builds at the show. Period. And while I went there initially to see the cars, I was really stoked to see that they'll be releasing a brand new tire that I know is going to make you track rats happy. It's the Proxxas Sport R, a new extreme performance track day tire. And it checks that 200 treadwear box. Those of you who actually race your cars know why that matters. This super grippy tire is set to drop next year, coming in over 50 sizes, covering 13 to 21 inch wheels. That's right. Whether you drive a Mark 1 Rabbit or a GT3 RS, the Sport R will fit the bill. And as you know, I've marked oils forever. I got them on all my cars and trucks. Typically on set, I can't wear sunglasses. Why? Because I'm often looking at a screen and a lot of times it's hard to really see what's going on if my lenses are too dark. But Heatwave fixed that problem. These new photo chromics, they adjust from almost clear to pretty dark tint depending on the sun, which is great. Because when I was in Australia filming Jim Khanna, it was one really bright, especially in the Outback. And there's also a ton of flies out there. These prevented them from getting into my eyes. I don't actually understand how the technology works. They told me it's wizardry. I believe them. You should too. You should also get yourself a pair. And if you have an extra large head, they fit pretty nicely.