THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 113 ft. Raw Egg Nationalist — Suicidal Penguins? The Death of Masculinity? Obama Loves Pit Bulls?
45 min
•Jan 31, 20263 months agoSummary
Charlie Kirk hosts Raw Egg Nationalist (Dr. Charles Cornish Dale) to discuss his new book 'The Last Men' connecting testosterone decline to political leftism, masculinity crisis, and Western civilization. The episode covers biological and societal factors affecting male health, with tangential discussions on penguins as symbols of Western spirit and pit bulls as dangerous breeds.
Insights
- Testosterone decline (1% annually in Western men) is positioned as a root cause of leftism and political polarization, not merely a symptom of cultural shifts
- Individual health interventions (sleep, diet, exercise) can improve testosterone, but systemic environmental factors (pesticides, microplastics, chemicals) require government-level policy change
- Facial development in children is directly impacted by mouth-breathing habits and soft-food diets, creating measurable physical markers of poor health
- Pit bull attacks are significantly underreported and breed-specific bans face political resistance despite clear statistical evidence of disproportionate fatality rates
- The 'penguin meme' represents the Faustian spirit of Western civilization—the drive to transcend limits even at cost of death, not nihilism or suicide
Trends
Health as political identity: masculine health optimization becoming explicitly tied to conservative political movements (MAHA/MAGA synthesis)Environmental toxins framed as civilizational threat: pesticides, PFAS, microplastics positioned as deliberate or systemic attacks on male vitalityBreed-specific dog policy as culture war proxy: pit bull advocacy conflated with progressive identity politics and virtue signalingMeme-based political communication: abstract symbols (penguins, eggs) used to encode political philosophy and recruit activistsBiological determinism resurgence: genetics and hormones presented as primary drivers of political ideology and behaviorGovernment health intervention demand: conservative voices calling for FDA/regulatory overhaul on food safety and chemical exposure
Topics
Testosterone Decline in Western MenLiberalism and Masculinity CrisisRaw Egg Consumption and NutritionEnvironmental Toxins and PFAS ChemicalsFacial Development and Mouth-BreathingPit Bull Breed Statistics and BansPolitical Polarization and BiologyFaustian Spirit and Western CivilizationSleep and Hormonal HealthProcessed Food Diet EffectsMake America Health Again (MAHA) PolicyDog Attack Reporting and LiabilityTurning Point USA ActivismFrancis Fukuyama End of History ThesisPenguin Symbolism in Political Discourse
Companies
Turning Point USA
Charlie Kirk's organization mentioned as platform for activism and student organizing; hiring announced for Arizona, ...
Sky Horse Publishing
Publisher of Raw Egg Nationalist's book 'The Last Men: Liberalism and the Death of Masculinity'
My Pit Bull Is Family
Charity organization linked in Obama statement; criticized for promoting dangerous breed and virtue signaling on pit ...
People
Dr. Charles Cornish Dale (Raw Egg Nationalist)
Author of 'The Last Men'; discusses testosterone decline, masculinity crisis, and biological determinism as political...
Charlie Kirk
Host; founder of Turning Point USA; frames discussion around conservative political implications of health and biology
Blake Neff
Co-host; discusses pit bull statistics, facial development, and political implications of dangerous breed advocacy
Tyler Boyer
Co-host; contributes to penguin symbolism discussion and pit bull attack anecdotes
Francis Fukuyama
Political philosopher; 'End of History' thesis used as framework for understanding masculinity and liberal democracy
Tucker Carlson
Produced 2022 documentary 'The End of Men' featuring Raw Egg Nationalist on testosterone decline
Barack Obama
Former president; statement on supporting neighbors linked to resources for ICE resistance and pit bull advocacy
RFK Jr.
Referenced for upending food pyramid and restoring cholesterol-rich foods to dietary recommendations
Oswald Spengler
Philosopher cited for concept of Faustian spirit as explanation for penguin's drive toward mountains
Werner Herzog
Documentary filmmaker; narrated penguin footage used to illustrate Western civilizational drive
Quotes
"If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're going to end up miserable. But if the most important thing is doing good, you will end up purposeful."
Charlie Kirk•Opening
"Testosterone is declining in the US and throughout the rest of the Western world at a rate of something like 1% a year, year on year. That's a quarter in 25 years. It's 50% in half a century."
Raw Egg Nationalist•Early segment
"As men lose their testosterone, I think they're more likely to become leftists."
Raw Egg Nationalist•Political implications discussion
"The penguin embodies the Faustian spirit, the will, the desire to know, the desire to overcome, the desire to transcend and to achieve the transcendental, even at the cost of death."
Raw Egg Nationalist•Penguin symbolism section
"Pitbulls are only 13% of the dog population, but they commit 60% of the savage attacks."
Charlie Kirk•Pit bull statistics discussion
Full Transcript
My name is Charlie Kirk. I run the largest pro-American student organization in the country, fighting for the future of our republic. My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth. If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're going to end up miserable. But if the most important thing is doing good, you will end up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody. You got to stop sending your kids to college. You should get married as young as possible and have as many kids as possible. Go start a turning point you would say college chapter. Go start a turning point you would say high school chapter. Go find out how your church can get involved. Sign up and become an activist. I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade. Most important decision I ever made in my life and I encourage you to do the same. Here I am. Lord, use me. Buckle up, everybody. Here we go. The Charlie Kirk Show is proudly sponsored by Preserve Gold, the leading gold and silver experts and the only precious metals company I recommend to my family, friends and viewers. Hi, folks. Welcome to today's edition of Thought Crime Thursday. As you can see, I'm here in my tuxedo. No, I am not auditioning for the on top of a wedding cake. No, I'm not auditioning for the next film. Goldfinger. No, I'm going to the premiere of Melania, which is going to be across town here at the Trump Kennedy Center in about an hour and a half. So I'm dressed up. So this is my attire. But as we know, no suits. So you got my suspenders. What's up? We got Blake. What's up, Blake? Yeah, yeah. Howdy, Jack. But who's there with you? And we've got, well, you all know we have Tyler Boyer and I wanted to also introduce to the audience. I think you may know this guy. He's someone who has been out there on the interwebs and was also, by the way, with somebody who Charlie Kirk was a big fan of and was always sending me his stuff. So I wanted to get him on the show. You're trying to get him on. His name is Dr. Charles Cornish Dale, but you may know and better by his online moniker as the Rye, Nationalist. What's up, Red? It's absolutely a pleasure and a privilege to be here, Jack. So I wanted to get, let's get into this because your new book is actually going to be our first thought crime. Tell us about your new book and what is the thesis? So I've got a new book just come out with Sky Horse called The Last Men, Liberalism and the Death of Masculinity. And it's about testosterone. So it's a follow on from the Tucker Carlson documentary that I was in in 2022. So I was in a documentary called The End of Men about testosterone decline, about this civilizational decline in testosterone that we're seeing and its implications for men and also the broader implications actually for politics for the political system. You know, what happens when you have a society that's full of men who have basically been being drained of their masculine essence? So castrated. So what you're saying is it's sort of like a reverse of what so many people think is going on in society. See, we think that some people say well, liberalism is on the rise and that's why you're seeing these new diets, veganism, etc. You're saying it's the opposite. It's those diets and those not just diets, but chemicals, kind of maha actually, but the synthesis of maha and maga really, like Trumpism. Yeah, well, I think for too long people have before maha in particular, people have kind of failed to consider the political implications of ill health and they've really failed to consider the political implications of testosterone decline. So testosterone, various different, you know, like gold standard studies have showed that actually testosterone is declining in the US and actually throughout the rest of the Western world at a rate of something like 1% a year, year on year. Now that might not sound like very much, but that's a quarter in 25 years. It's 50% in half a century. And yes, I mean, I mean, broadly speaking, I think that a lot of a lot of these trends that we're seeing today are actually downstream of this biologic, this profound biological change that's happening to men and has been happening for decades. You know, among other things, you could you could talk about the the rise of leftism, you could talk about political polarization. That's something I talk about in the book, you know, actually, as men lose their testosterone, I think they're more likely to become leftists. They're more likely to become leftists. So, so Blake, what you've obviously, you've heard about this. What is your sense of this? Is this something that actually bears out? Well, it's funny because I'm of two minds. It does seem obviously we have, if you if you were to just look at society wide, I feel like we might have reached peak soy boy or something actually in the past, like it felt like 10 years ago, there was that hipster, hipster aesthetic, the redditor aesthetic, that peak. Now when I think about, oh, I think about young people, I always think about the like, the the lifting cult guys. And it's funny because it feels like so omnipresent that you'd assume it's all over the place. But like 50 years ago, nobody was going out and lifting weights three times a week to be strong. Nobody was doing a lot of this really ambitious fitness stuff. But it does seem like testosterone was higher. I guess since we have the eggster here, first of all, I guess a lot of people are going to ask why raw eggs specifically? But is it do you think it is primarily an environmental thing? Or do you think it's a lifestyle thing? Or basically, can an individual fix the testosterone crisis? Or is this a gigantic scientific public health matter? Okay, so on the the raw egg thing, then yeah, so raw eggs, raw egg nationalism became a thing really in in 2020. It's the reason I started posting on Twitter. There was this hashtag going round raw egg nationalism. It was about people knocking back large quantities slonking is the technical term actually slonking large quantities of raw eggs. Do you have a slonking record? What is your slonking record? I think the most I ever slonked in a day was 28. 28 raw eggs in a day. Do you just cook them bad because it kind of sounds gross to me. So I didn't take them all at once. Yeah, I mean, Hulk Hogan would but I mean, he was a different beast. You can't look like I would never tell somebody don't eat cooked eggs. Like if you can't stomach raw eggs and then by all means, scrambled whatever cooked fried boiled. But the raw thing is is largely to do with a the quantity that you can consume at any one time. So like, you may have seen Cool Hand Luke, the Paul Newman film, right, where he's challenged to eat 50 boiled eggs, it nearly kills him. But you can very easily knock back 50 raw eggs, you know, just drinking them. But then there's also the issue of preservation of the nutrients. So you get certain nutritional benefits. When you consume eggs raw rather than cooked, it preserves the the cholesterol in particular. And now we've been told for 100 years, you know, that cholesterol is very bad for you. But actually, the the opposite is the case. And thankfully, now, you know, RFK Junior has upended the food pyramid and restored cholesterol rich foods to their rightful place as the as the kind of building blocks of the American diet. But I think this is it's an individual and a societal problem. So there are definitely things that you can do as an individual to improve your hormonal health. Absolutely. And I regularly give advice on my Twitter account on my substack and and in this book, you know, there are simple things that you can do, lifting weights, cleaning up your diet, learning how to cook, avoiding processed foods, sleeping better sleep is a big one. Actually, the people really don't pay enough attention to. So there was a study that showed, for example, that if you double your sleep as a man from four hours to eight hours a night, you can double your testosterone levels, because the vast majority of testosterone is produced at night during sleep. So if you don't sleep properly, you're not going to produce enough. But then there are these big, I think societal problems, things like pesticides, herbicides in the food and water, PFAS chemicals, plastic chemicals, microplastics, environmental pollution, all that kind of stuff. And really, you know, that's something that government needs to be involved in. And that's why we need Make America Health Again. That's why we need this grand health campaign that centers on cleaning up the environment, educating people, improving herbicide and pesticide regulations, all this kind of stuff. So that's the thought crime. I love this idea because you're combining basically, with everything that we're seeing politically that's going on. The name of the book is The Last Man. Why is that the name of the book if this is the subject? Yes, well, so the book is actually kind of based, the book is kind of based on Fuki Armour's end of history thesis. It's a kind of quite a bold reappraisal or a restating of what Francis Fukuyama is saying happens at the end of history, you know, the triumph of liberal democracy over all other alternative political systems. Fukuyama talks about the triumph of liberal democracy as the victory of a certain kind of Phymos. Phymos is this ancient Greek word that was used to describe spiritedness, the things that animate man, that give him motivation, that make him patriotic and courageous, etc. But what Fukuyama says is that actually the triumph of liberal democracy is it's the victory of one kind of Phymos over another. And so, you know, in a liberal democracy, you can be recognized as equal with your fellow man, but you can't be recognized as better, which is a fundamental aspect actually of being a man, of masculinity, of Phymos. Well, what does that actually mean? It means that we've created a political system that is potentially at odds with certain aspects of the male character and psyche, the drives, the things that push men to succeed. So not only are we facing this kind of biological crisis where, you know, we're being pumped full of pesticides and herbicides and we're eating bad diets and we're not sleeping and we're exposed to blue light all the time, chronic stress, but also actually we've created a political system that is hostile to masculinity. And so the last men is this idea that actually we've arrived at the end of history and we've created a creature, a type of man, who is not fully a man. And so I pose these quite big kind of philosophical... Wait, wait, so what you've done here, I think I figured this out, you've explained D&T for mug shots. Maybe I have. Yeah, I think I have. This entire thesis is why we have... Why they all look that way, why they all have this, it's diet, it's lack of testosterone, but you're right though, it's kind of a spirit or a lack of spirit or a hateful spirit and a resentment. So this is why you get... You and I, you were on my show earlier today and we were talking about the fact that they... So Tyler, did you see how they... I think I saw you tweeting about this, how they used AI on the Alex Pretty photo to like kind of like... Make him look hotter. Yeah, totally insane. It was funny because it was like he had slightly askew like eyes and hair and then he had like a sickly pallor on his skin, so they had to tan him up, jazz him up. It was very strange look. It looked like legitimately like one of those really obvious face tunes that they did, they just put them there. That ended up... Why are they doing that? The media outlets ran that photo and stuff. Wow, that's great, totally. That's the one they went with, they rolled with. Which you do wonder, is this sustainable because as people joked, it was like people would call him a martyr, but they still got the ick from his photo. It does seem like the termination loop on this is just... These people can't reproduce then and so they just disappear and then you rebalance back to something that makes more sense. But they reproduce by other means. That's why they go after the kids, that's why they do the grooming, that's why they have all the stuff in the education. So they reproduce by going after your children basically and taking them over mentally. So and this guy who... And we've been doing some reading on this that he was this Alex Freddy and you look at that first picture and actually you know what, let's do it, let's do it. Dr. Tornish Dale, could you describe the diet and the lifestyle of the man you see in the original photo here? Yeah, the man I see in the original photo is... He's a vegan, I would imagine, or certainly he's living on some kind of plant-based diet. He doesn't get much sun, I don't think he exercises, he looks like he's skinny fat, so you know he's got he's probably got man boobs, he's probably got low testosterone or other. I should be talking the past tense, shouldn't I? Actually he probably had low testosterone. Yeah, he's not a model of optimal... The jawline, they've changed the jawline too. They have, yeah, I mean they've chadified him, they've tried to make him into a gigachad. I mean it's funny because you know the high mark I suppose for this is Luigi Mangione, right? Oh wait, wait, and mouth breathing. Mouth breathing, yeah, he's a habitual mouth breather too, I would imagine. He probably has some unpleasant habits, I wouldn't really particularly want to look at his internet Why is it that mouth breathing leads to that very tight neck that way? Well what it does is if you, let's say you have an undiagnosed allergy as a child, if you habitually mouth breathe, as your skull is developing, your mouth is open, it pushes your jaw back, it recesses the jaw, so that actually what happens is it looks like you don't have a chin, right? I mean you do have a chin, it's just in the wrong position, it's in your neck. That's real? Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's absolutely real. How bad are we talking? That's insane. Allergies make you have a messed up head. They can do, yeah. When you're saying if they're perpetual? Yeah, if you're like a child and you have like an undiagnosed pet allergy and you're constantly breathing through your mouth for like 10 years as you develop from a 6 year old to a 16 year old, then yeah, your skull will not develop properly, your jaw will become recessed and you'll basically have no chin. I mean you do have a chin but it's in your neck and it's back. That's why people are chinless, that's why if you see a chinless man, he probably is a habitual mouth breather. They say the same thing about eating hard foods when you're young. Yes, yeah, there's that too. So I mean, you know, there's a lot of anthropological evidence, you know, in traditional societies diet is much harder, people chew more. And in traditional societies as well, people use their mouths to do leather work and make rope and stuff. So people use their jaws and their facial muscles much more. We have a very soft diet on the whole. I mean, if you eat a processed food diet, you're basically just swallowing your food without even chewing it, you know, it just kind of dissolves in your mouth and passes down your gullet. And yes, that means that the muscles of your face don't develop and the structure of your face doesn't develop as a result. This is amazing. I love this. I could I could do this topic all day. So the book is The Last Men, Dr. Charles Cornish Dale, The Synthesis of Maha and Maga, which I just think is really cool. And Ova, I guess. I think our eggmeister will be very good on this topic, which is a very strange one. And I think people watching are going to be a little baffled by it. But we need to talk about the penguins, Jack, the penguins. And so this one, I think I've had to explain this four or five separate times. You kind of just explained it with the Fumos. Yeah, yeah, I guess I suppose he did. But this all happened kind of out of nowhere. I believe it began, well, it began a decade ago. But then earlier this week, we had the Trump administration, the White House actually, they put out a meme as it were, let's put up 480. And it basically says, like, embrace the penguin. I can't see the text here, but you just posted this image. And it was show it shows the Greenland flag. So everyone was saying, Oh, stupid dumb face. Mr. Trump thought that there are penguins on the North Pole. But it is not that it's actually not about the North Pole. It's about what the penguin represents. And we had an additional one, the Department of War put out their own image saying to embrace the penguin. That's 478. Throw that up there. So we everyone's everyone's posting about penguins wandering off towards the mountains. And the weird thing is, is everyone's a fan of that penguin because it is committing suicide. Yeah, that's literally what it is. So we have this clip. Let is it still clip 487? Let's play that. It's from a why we like the penguin. That's not why let's let people judge for themselves. So let's play the clip from from the Verne Herzog documentary. Blake always does this, by the way. By the way, he always does this. He tells people what he thinks is the only reason that something's going on. These penguins are all heading to the open water to the right. But one of them caught our eye, the one in the center. He would neither go towards the feeding grounds at the edge of the ice nor return to the colony. Shortly afterwards, we saw him heading straight towards the mountains, some 70 kilometers away. Dr. Aenly explained that even if he caught him and brought him back to the colony, he would immediately head right back for the mountains. But why? One of these disoriented or deranged penguins showed up at the New Harbour Diving Camp already some 80 kilometers away from where it should be. The rules for the humans are do not disturb or hold up the penguin, stand still and let him go on his way. And here he is heading off into the interior of the vast continent. With 5000 kilometers ahead of him, he's heading towards certain death. I could listen to Verne Herzog talk, narrate anything all day. He is headed towards certain death. But why? This is just another more propaganda to get people away from the ice walls. Don't go that direction. Oh, oh, do you think that's what this is about? Don't go towards the ice walls. Tyler's the person who makes the reference. What's behind the ice wall, Tyler? What's behind the ice wall? I don't know. What's behind the ice wall, Jack? What do you mean you don't know what's behind the ice wall? We don't know. They don't tell you? No, it's certain death. Obviously. We know what's behind the ice wall. We know it's behind the ice wall. We all know it's home. You're definitely going to have to explain to other people what a gartha is. But no, it is true. Like, there is a funny thing. Like, I know you guys are joking about it. I have no idea what that is. The penguin basically is a meme because people are saying embrace the penguin's suicidal surge into the unknown. No, it's not what they're saying. It's not what they're saying. It's not all. I'm not saying it's free suicide. No. So there are like redditors, I saw who were saying like, oh yeah, the penguin represents the kind of deranged nihilism of capitalism where, you know, we're all just heading towards inevitable doom. No, it's not that. Oswald Spengler writes about this. It's the Faustian spirit. The penguin embodies the Faustian spirit, the will, the desire to know, the desire to overcome, the desire to transcend and to achieve the transcendental, even at the cost of death. It's the great impulse that has motivated western society, western civilization and brought it to greatness. It's what built the Gothic cathedral. It's what resulted in calculus. It's what drove us to the moon and hopefully will drive us beyond. This penguin is experiencing this profound drive, the Faustian spirit and he's prepared to die. The way that people have said this for years, the common phrase, the mountains beckon us. The mountains are beckoning us. He feels the call of the mountain. He must go and see what is on the other side. He must climb the mountain. He must achieve greater. That's why the penguin will not stop because as we all know, outside of death, all failure is psychological. Hi folks, Andrew Colvett here. I'd like to tell you about my friends over at Y-Refy. You've probably been hearing me talk about Y-Refy for some time now. We are all in with these guys. If you or someone you know is struggling with private student loan debt, take my advice and give them a call. Maybe you're behind on your payments. Maybe you're even in default. You don't have to live in this nightmare anymore. Y-Refy will provide you a custom payment based on your ability to pay. They tailor each loan individually. They can save you thousands of dollars and you can get your life back. We go to campuses all over America and we see student after student who's drowning in private student loan debt. Many of them don't even know how much they owe. Y-Refy can help. Just go to Y-Refy.com. That's the letter Y then refy.com. Remember, Y-Refy doesn't care what your credit score is. Just go to Y-Refy.com and tell them your friend Andrew sent you. Man, you're making it sound like we should just make the national, we should just change the national seal and have the suicide penguin as the official bird of the United States. You don't know it's a suicidal penguin. It could be. Because you've never climbed the mountain Blake. You don't know what's over there. There could be penguin utopia on the other side. He's in a garth of it right now. He's in a garth of it right now. Yeah, I mean, I would say we could easily make a penguin, our national bird, and put it on the seal if we annex Antarctica. I'm going to keep flogging that hobby horse. That's how you square the Greenland Circle. We should just seize Antarctica. Tyler, what's your take on the penguin? I think the penguin is just having a rough week. Mrs. Penguin told him he's been drinking too much. We're not even going to say why. We're not even going to say what cause. Mrs. Penguin said he was swanking too much. We're not even going to say why. We're not going to talk about the garbage he forgot to take out or the laundry he was supposed to pick up right away or whatever it is. It sounds awfully personal. Nobody's ever been in that position. Listen, there's just sometimes a male penguin just needs to run towards the mountains. I think there's a shulking connection to me. I'm thinking back to fourth grade science and emperor penguins. I don't know if other penguins do it, but definitely the emperor's. They sit on the eggs, right? They kind of just squat on those eggs to keep them warm. Yeah, they have a huge. Yeah, that's in March of the Penguin. The one has to sit there and the others go out to get food. Yeah, so you can't shulunk their eggs and there's no other eggs. I'm a problem with that. Maybe that's why they went mad. If you sit on the egg constantly but you can't shulunk the egg, do you go, you have to flee to Agartha as it were? Yeah, I'm pro penguin. I'm pro penguin. Me too. Mr. Angelo says Mrs. Penguin found those text messages on his ice phone. On his ice phone. I like the idea of, you know, again, I think that there is real neat, especially when you're born into a community, you spend in a community. I think there's probably just a certain percentage people who have to break away from that. And that includes penguins too. Penguins, there's just a certain percentage of penguins who have to just break out and just get away. To flee. And they don't have to join the work part. They don't have screamo music and, you know, I don't know. Wait, you listen to screamo music? And ESPN3 to lean into. You listen to screamo music? No, I'm just saying that just, you seem really familiar with screamo music. That just doesn't exist for penguins. So they got to just run towards the mountains. So. But that is the spirit. That is the Western spirit. That's the spirit of why Turning Point USA was founded. The spirit that you can do more. The spirit that you can, that you can do something. You don't just have to be, you don't just have to be a penguin who's in the herd, who's in the flock. You can go and do something different. Turning Penguin USA Antarctica? No, no, no. Lake, lake, Turning Point Antarctica. Turning Point Agatha. Turning Point Agartha. Turning Point McMurdo. Turning Point Agartha has been, actually has been actually operating for some time now. Oh, it has. Which Tyler, Tyler, not, dude, you're alive. We can't. Yeah, don't tell him. Don't tell him. You must protect your energy crystals. Oh man, we're in big trouble now. So, but the one thing that I wanted to get into as well, which, which kind of goes back to Alex Pretty, is Obama. Did you guys see this Obama statement that he put out, like in the wake of all this, where he's talking about, oh, we have to like support our neighbors and with going on in many, you guys see this thing? Yeah, I saw it only because you sent it to me because Pozo, I don't follow Barack Obama and actively hang on every word that he says, but I understand some people are a little different and Obama. You know, we do do a show here, you know, and he's kind of like the leader of the opposition, but you know, whatever. So, so he had this link and that he that he posted up and he said, here's your resources that we can use to, you know, to support our neighbors. And it's weird because I guess neighbor is like the new comrade, the new tovarish, right, Tyler, tovarish, to that they don't even refer to illegal aliens. Because they, because they realized that illegal aliens and undocumented, it all just got too wonky and too silly. So they're just saying neighbors, which is the weirdest thing. It's very communist. But then here's what's crazy though. So it links to a box article where it says how to help the resistance to ice in Minnesota and beyond. And you scroll down and it's got all sorts of wild stuff. Yeah, it's got the normal like donate the legal funds and stand with Minnesota, which by the way, I'm pretty sure is very similar to the bail funds that Michelle Obama or excuse me, Kamala Harris shared back in 2020. But then if you scroll down and keep going down, down, down, down, down, down, down, this is this is the weirdest one. It says there are other ways to volunteer and my pitbull is family has been helping vulnerable families take care of their pets, including when an owner is detained by ice. And so I clicked on it, I said my people is family. What is this? And it says let's lick discrimination. That's bike discrimination face off discrimination volunteer with us. My pitbull is family. What's going on with the pitbulls? And why is it? I'm sorry, what is going on? Why are pitbulls considered the the pet of and you look at these people, they're all antifa. Why is pitbull like the antifa pet? Well, there's, well, there's this long history of people claiming that actually pitbull is a euphemism for a certain demographic, right? And so when people are talking, I'm not familiar with that at all. No. Well, so they're saying, you know, like pitbulls are only 13% of the dog population, but they commit 60% of the savage attacks. Is that true? I think, well, I mean, yeah, pitbulls definitely commit a disproportionate amount of, We've covered this before, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, no pitpills are a giant, you know, killing machines out and about eating babies, which, you know, they're eating the babies other dogs won't eat as they might say. And in fact, you're, I think your your friend, Kermue, just had a situation with this. Yeah, Kermue, our friend down in Austin, he was, he was attacked by a pitbull and we were just learning today, one of our staffers, they had a parent who was attacked by a pitbull in the past. There's, and I know our neighbor back in South Dakota, they had like a cousin who was killed by a pitbull. Like it's amazing how many of these you can find if you yeah, killed it. That was an act. It was sort of, they, you have less sympathy because they, I think, were running like a breeding operation or they had some like large number of dogs. And, you know, despite having all those lovely dogs that wouldn't hurt a fly, the dogs consumed them, as it were. Which is disgusting. And there's, there's, there's a ton of statistics that people can go on this. So it's America's most dangerous breeds. And you can find the data, it's very clear actually, where, where is this from? Dogfight.org, where it says that breeds and types of dogs involved in fatal attacks on humans in the US from 2005 to 2017. It's got government pinter, sick, boxer, seven, labs, nine, Huskies, 13, across the United States, fatal attack, American Bulldogs, 15, McBree, 17, German Shepherd, 20, Rottweiler, 45, pitbull, 285 attacks from pitbulls. And so this, this has to do, and this is, this is where people get really upset on, on this, because it has to do with how pitbulls were bred, which happened originally in England. It did. So I'm going to, I'm going to get through it to you to, to explain this to us. How were pitbulls originally bred? Well, as far as I know, I mean, they were, they were bred as fighting dogs. I mean, they're, they're bred to be, I mean, I think they were literally thrown in pits and, well, that's where the name comes from, so the name comes from them being thrown in fighting pits. Yep. So you would, you breed the most over generations, you know, constant cycles of breeding. You, you create the most aggressive dog that you can throw in a pit that will rip another dog to shreds for the enjoyment of a crowd, you know, the most, it's, it's blood sport, you know, it's a big, it's a word, bull. That comes from the fact that they would actually have the dogs fighting actual, actual cows. Bulls. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They wouldn't just fight other dogs. They, they would fight rats, but they would also fight bulls. They were savage enough. If you threw enough of them in a pit with a, with a bull to kill a bull, certainly to, you know, to savage it in a very, very nasty way. So these are dogs that have been bred that are genetically predisposed. Their whole existence is violence. Well, I know, so this of course is the thought crime because every single time this happens, every single time we find a story like this, we get, I get flooded with comments. I'm actually looking the live chat right now where people are saying, where people are saying, oh, that's just a bad owner. Oh, that's just a bad owner. They don't know what they're doing. They didn't train them right. Bad owner makes it worse, but I mean, it's always in there waiting to get out. And I mean, Kremio, I think he had the dog on his lap. He was petting it. We met him at the natal con down in Austin. Yeah, we did. He told me the same story. He's a nice guy petting the dog on his lap and it just bites his face. I mean, you know, what, what can you, what can you do about that other than wage a relentless war of extermination against all pit bulls? Oh boy. So what's the status of pit bulls and bully breeds in the UK? They're largely, they're largely bad. And in fact, I was going to say my cousin in the 1990s was bitten on the eyebrow and still has a very bad scar. Oh, wow. They used to call them American pit bulls back then. Oh, it's funny. Yeah, which is funny, considering they were bred in the UK. The reason I knew that the bulldogs were originally British was because of the British bulldog, the wrestler and WWF. Oh yeah, classic. So good. But yeah, I mean, I think there's, so there've been a lot of attacks in the UK as well. So they've phased out the breed completely? They have. Yeah. I mean, obviously you get the like here, then you get the sort of people whining and crying and moaning and saying that it's discriminatory and that it's not the dogs, it's the owners and all the same stuff gets said. But yeah, they do exactly what they do here. They attack and kill people, kill women, kill children. So Blake, what do we attribute this to? Because what are you saying and what we're looking up says the statistics are very clear on this, that this one breed is particularly violent. And look, you can just go to daily... Well, what's really incredible... Headline after headline, backing it up. Well, what's really incredible to me, it's like, okay, this dog is clearly a dangerous one. And what's remarkable and what I think makes this relevant is the truly pathological response that clearly a lot of people simultaneously, there are people who want to get a pit bull because they know it is a terrible dog. And they like want to argue that the pit bull is not a bad dog, that it's like misunderstood or whatever. And I mean, we see with this charity, supposedly, this charity, my pit bull is family. Allegedly, it's like, oh, it's just for people who need support with their pets. But they didn't say, my dog is family. They didn't say, my pet is family. They chose a pit bull. If they have that photo that we took of their table that they have, like they have a freaking pit bull mascot. And like they really lean into the pit bull imagery. This is specifically a type of dog that there's a ton of them in shelters. Why are there a ton of them in shelters? Because they're horrible dogs. And so people have to ditch them because they bite their toddler, but they don't want to put it down. And it's truly, it's an insight into the psychological state of a lot of people, not exclusively on the left, frankly, that they want to go out of their way to get the dog that is more dangerous for them, to get the dog that is more dangerous to other people, as I suppose a form of pretty aggressive virtue signaling either because they want to prove that it's the owner, not the dog until, you know, they turn out to be the bad owner whose dog goes, goes nuts. It, it's this, it's this true will towards ugliness, this will towards danger. What ended up happening with this kid? I think you're right though. It's like, they know it's dangerous and like they want it to be, which kid? Like that's what they want it. What happened? What happened with that kid in that video? I'm not sure. I think we just got B roll on it, but yeah, I mean, I saw that. I, I get, I've gotten into like the algorithm on Instagram. I follow every victim of every pit bull attack. I don't know why it just pops up on my stuff, but like, well, I guess I'm doing it. They're going to keep watching. They have those algos, but there's a lot. Yeah, there's like a lot of pit bull attacks that are completely under reported. It's crazy. There's probably, so this is the question I have, especially for thought crime. Is there more damage done by pit bulls or by school shooters? Probably, probably school shooters. What would you find, define damage though? No, I know. No, I'm like genuinely curious. Like dogs, as bad as pit bulls are, they don't kill that many people in like a national context. I think maybe what, like 10, 15 people get killed by pit bulls a year. Okay. I mean, that's, yeah, but, but I mean, how, how many, what, what I suppose you have to do is you have to do some kind of per capita analysis. But it's like every year and then we're like, like across the world and like, I mean, there's, well, that's part of it. I think pit bulls are an American thing and like, and like America and its cultural imperialist sphere. I don't think you're going to find pit bulls if you visit Italy or something. But my part of my, part of my point is I think that a lot of this actually goes severely under reported. I think there's a lot more pit bull attacks happening in America than we actually even know about because nobody ever talks. I tell you, I see a ton of this content. I guess it would only go if it got reported like to the hospital. There's probably a lot of people who just get bit and just tough it out. I mean, there's people, I mean, that, I mean, again, yeah, like nobody ever gets held to account either. Like where people, I mean, this happens a lot where dogs will attack and you hear obviously about people suing each other over dog attacks, but there's also probably significantly more people who actually never sue their family member or whoever for a dog attack. Like you're not going to sue your own family most of the time when you get attacked by a dog. It just doesn't happen. It's usually not reported. No, and it's something where like, I think, so obviously, right, the thought crime here is the question of the Tabula Rasa, right? This is the heredity, you know, heredity, genetics, you know, is there a reason that, you know, people from certain countries are a certain way, you know, the Somalis, the, you know, Europeans, whatever. This is the thought crime that comes up, you know, can you overcome your heredity? Can you overcome? And then certainly, you were just talking about that with your book is to say that there are lots of factors. It is kind of a hodgepodge of all these different things. However, there is still this innate nature and twin studies have borne this out over and over and over again. Go read the book blueprint if you want to check that out. But also, I think maybe if we're doing a PSA, it's, hey, guys, if your dog's not good around kids, get the dog out there before anything bad happens, just or, or, but and if you do have a pitball, then maybe just don't bring him around kids. And also embrace the message from Obama. They embrace the message from Obama that pitballs are a lib breed and a lib cause. I say that only because two years ago, Florida banned local bands on, on pit breeds. They basically said you aren't allowed to ban pitballs from things. I don't know why Florida did that. They had a good, they had a good run on a lot of things. And that is a terrible law. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. You're playing to me. Florida. Florida at the state level banned local bands on pitballs. So you, you, you can't stop. You can't. You can't. You basically can't ban them. You can't like locally, like a local community can't put in like a city or town ordinance against pitbull. Yeah. Or like a public housing ordinance against it. Yeah. Or like even like an HOA couldn't like ban pitbull. No, no. So that was, that was a big mistake by Florida, in my opinion. It's like, it's like when they get scyopt into those hair discrimination. Yeah. But you pitbull the rapper probably would be really upset with a pitbull ban in Florida. I'm just saying, could we ban pitbull the rapper? No, but I mean, it's just bad for business. If there's a pitbull, I mean, that's, that's bad for business. If like, we ban rappers that headline pitbull ban Florida, like that's not great for, I mean, I'm better record label was probably had a lobbyist involved with that. So you might be right. Just saying. No, send in your comments, send in your questions. What do you think about the pitbull question? 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Getting out, getting out the vote is a lot more than bananas and rice, Jack. It's like bananas and rice. It's like, it's like, uh, commandeering a ship. It's a little bit like that. It's a little bit like commandeering the ship and saying, I am the captain now. Yeah. It's a little bit like running a daycare center. It's a little bit like not running a daycare center every day. Hey, hey, hey, you know what they say, guys, you live and you learn. You live and you learn. Ladies and gentlemen, as always, go out there and commit more thought crime.