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We've got a lot He is he is jay gris the cardboard bear like I said, it's a special edition of this edition of the podcast show Welcome to dynasty week Once a year around this time we have our have ourselves a good old-fashioned dynasty week This the the theme of today's show will be dynasty related and to help us celebrate it We are giving away a signed James cook Jimmy cook of The Buffalo bills I almost called him the Buffalo bears because this bear is in my face large is a full grizzly But if you want in on that all you got to do is have pre-ordered the ultimate draft kit the udk plus be an ultimate tier footclan Supporter you can do any of the above now. You don't have to do all that No, no, no, you just you just pick one of those and then not only are you securing the udk for the lowest possible price? Which releases in about two weeks in two weeks two weeks There's something you're gonna grab to help you out with the with the draft You might win a sign James Cook Jersey Which I'm a win-win-win James Dalvin cook a great running back man. He He got real good. He really did real good He went from a guy that was like well He was efficient with touchdowns doesn't get a lot of volume to just the dude. Oh, they were split in two ways They're splitting it three ways now. It's just like Man, he's too good. He's too good to give anyone else the ball there and Led the league in in rushing so that makes sense So check that out ultimate draft kit calm or join the foot calm if you want to be one of the long-term supporters of the show Today's quick question Who is a later round pick in rookie drafts? Not getting talked about enough. I'll bring up Andy's since he's not here And because you probably don't agree with it as much as myself and Andy I I totally agree that he is a sleeper I just you didn't love the film correct and that's fine because he is Tennessee Titans I mean they let they liked it like they'd like enough to draft the fifth round for what we're looking for your better argument There was Nordic the NFL okay, they all the teams let him drop to the fifth the Titans were the one that actually pulled the trigger Nicholas singleton dig this but they were like Though well, they need a depth Tony Pollard is getting older Tajah Spears is a smaller kind of more niche Back Nicholas singleton in the fifth round. This was a guy who was the number one recruit in the nation Okay, so he came into college as a very very highly touted high school athlete and Then in college all he did was he had a Four-year career at Penn State as the all-time leading touchdown Score score With 45 45 rushing touchdowns and I've brought this up on the dynasty show probably this show in the past there's a weird correlation between fantasy football success in the NFL and For the running back position rushing touchdowns in college that that is one of the stickier stats Not that rushing touchdowns necessarily are sticky, but that one has a high Correlation to success in the NFL. You don't get much better than 45 Oh and also he had over a hundred receptions in college. That's an outrageously high number So you're telling me that the two things that score fantasy points He can catch the ball and he could score touchdowns. He's 220 plus pounds So he can be used in a goal line situation. I don't feel like that's really Tony Pollard or Tajah Spears is specialty. So this is just someone it's a sleeper. It's a fifth round, you know NFL draft pick we usually just You know look at them as wisps of smoke in the air and try to like smell like oh this this smells good Is that a fire? Yeah, I don't know. Do I like this every now and then you can find you know a bucky Irving day three pick but Singleton is someone to keep your eye on you know 220 six pounds and he also he Keep in mind he introduced 26 pounds Did I say that I did say that no the deuce none of them are paying no, okay? Yeah, okay? They're got Kyle. Yeah, you said 220 six pounds six. It's a newborn baby But at the senior bowl which is you know obviously after the the collegiate season he injured his foot So if you want to talk about dropping in the in the draft of the fifth round that that could be a legit reason like he He is dealing with an injury. So a team would have to sacrifice some of that time I I did like the prospect like Caitrin Allen his is running mate there at Penn State I preferred Nicholas Singleton from a fantasy football perspective. I Didn't realize Singleton was gonna get that long of a segment Otherwise I would have shut that whole thing down. Okay. You know, that's why I went I'm going with Zach right branch. Zach branch of the Atlanta Falcons. He's a third round pick now he his production profile is one that we Can be scared off of for fantasy football when everything is is so Manufactured for for a kid in college like you're not running the true NFL rouse a screen warrior. Yes But there is an opportunity here a third round pick by the Falcons, you know, the also known as a day to pick He would like he's he's athletically gifted. He's a bit undersized But there's room for him there. There is absolutely room room for him anywhere because he's so small But it's like it's Drake London. Yes, and Kyle Pitts, you know, we got the franchise tag but Kyle Pitts is just such a weird player who sometimes shows up sometimes doesn't and branch can easily earn himself you know like a essentially a full-time role here for the Atlanta Falcons and Maybe they're able to manufacture him touches as well. So I so a third round pick. I like this late so Usually when you're a screen warrior and usually when you're undersized two big strikes against you where I don't like betting on those Prospects and I do think Zachariah branch will fail However, I love betting on him specifically because he is worth the reward if he succeeds most of these guys in today's in not today's in 2026 the wide receiver draft class I think a lot of them are going to be good NFL wide receivers a lot of good depth pieces But not making an impact on fantasy football. They're gonna be their wide receiver two or three for their team They're gonna help move the chains and be important and not be someone you're starting in your lineup Zachariah branch has a superpower where if it hits, you know, the the the Tyreek Hill whispers I don't think I've seen another prospect Who has the same burst? as Tyreek Hill other than other than branch when when he 435 it's not even fast It's not even the 435. They're you know the line just the the the burst from stop to start is outrageous Tyreek was obviously he's a one-of-one. Yeah, and he's built far more than than branch to be able to take the NFL You know punishment, but I do think if branch hits It's going to be a higher ceiling than a lot of the other like round three round four rookie picks So I I like that as a sleeper option and then my sleeper option I've personally drafted him everywhere I've put my you are a big supporter. I'm a big supporter Ted Hearst Wide receiver drafted in the third round by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I like the film the Broadhurst Broadhurst won't work Yeah, I don't know about that one You know the last two seasons he led college football in 20 plus yard Receptions he is 64 206. He's he is a tall field stretching Air apparent he is not Mike Evans. He's not a first round NFL pick He doesn't have the production profile of Mike Evans, but they're bringing him into that role You know that Zach Robinson literally was just saying having a true ex weapon in an office is important Speaking of Ted Hearst the draft pick they just lost Mike Evans So I think he does come in and maybe he Splits time to start the season But it looks like a mecca Bucca is going to be in the Z-roll Chris Godwin is a slot player Ted Hearst has an opportunity as a day to pick Who I really did like the film. I think he's a good he he high points the ball Well, he always gets open deep He uses his speed very well, and I think he'll work so Ted Hearst I I think that's a name people need to pay attention to because again just like branch what hit what he does as a six-four wide receiver who had a lot of like Fade catch touchdowns over smaller DB's and did him very well if he hits He's gonna be a touchdown machine and then if only he goes to a good quarterback and Baker who can throw touchdowns He's interesting because like the the pre-draft process So he went to Georgia State. So, you know a D1 school, but a smaller conference It was like oh boy. It's a keen butler All over again. Yeah, all the fancy words were like look at this six four guys running Four four and then the NFL is like we don't want the keen butler, but third round pick Yeah, butler fell to like a fifth. Yeah, yeah fifth or sixth round. I'll get that right So they decided at least the Bucks decided that we're gonna go in on on Ted Hearst and Where he's being drafted. I think he is a solid one of the weirdest things this year is The absence of thousand yard receivers on all these highly touted collegiate prospects Like that's always been a barometer for me like if you don't if your best season in college wasn't a thousand yards I have a really hard time right kicking your but this year. It's like all of them ever I mean, I mean Tyson had a thousand lemon had a thousand Tate didn't but Tates He wasn't the one on this team, but then it's like all of the other day two picks almost none of them got a thousand At least at least Hearst, you know Goes over that bar right into the news News and notes from around the league We can you hit the money for me? Oh, yeah, Devon a Chan Ho I forgot we got a new one for the back wall and I didn't want to hit the wrong one Gotcha, all right, the money is flowing for a year 68 million buckaroonies the extension for the Dolphins player making him the NFL's third Highest paid running back at 17 per year 32 million guaranteed The last year 11 fantasy points every single game I mean, he is an awesome guy deserves every penny 32 million guarantee How bad does Devon a Chan feel looking at Jeremiah love realizing Jeremiah love got 21 Million dollars more and guaranteed money than this massive contract. Yeah that that's that kind of stinks but Also Gibbs is like. Oh, yeah Gibbs is like, huh? He did what your money money money, please We gotta get that drop. Yes, we gotta we gotta cut that up Then there was a in not fun news athletic we got a from the athletic We got a report Malik neighbors underwent a cleanup procedure a couple weeks ago You know though for a lot of injury experts out there. This was not Shocking news. We just you never like to hear that a guy who had ACL and meniscus surgery Had to have a cleanup to get rid of some scar tissue We want Malik neighbors healthy as possible long term, but It feels like he may not be ready to start the year pop candidate Maybe it's just a couple weeks or maybe it's the pop. I mean, it just depends on your perspective. This was great news for me This is great news for me. You made a trade you you made a trade last year for You like you traded away the 2026 season in League of Record The 20 yes, correct the upcoming you have already traded that I'm out. I'm OUT I mean my co-manager good night or brief. We have been saying for the last For the last year. We're the future future champ. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, so I'm out on 2026 and You idiot This is redid you did the same thing two years ago got Not before the season started you got last place because you sold and played for the future Yes, about out in here. I'm out in front of you Mike. I'm out in front I went after it hard last year Josh Jacobs went down for me and then Daniel Jones went down which hurt John and then Taylor you on the championship. I didn't but because of that I have very little draft capital. So coming into this year I just made a one-for-one trade. I traded away CD lamb from a leak neighbors It's perfect and I hope neighbors starts on the pop. I don't want to win this year I want him to get healthy start slow and I guess for everybody out there that is not just selfishly thinking of their own team He probably starts on the pop. That's my current expectation. Okay, dr. Chow You know long-time team doctor of the that are just in Diego Chargers. Yeah He was saying months ago when the crutch was coming out for neighbors it was a Sign that it was a different type of procedure because we knew it was a meniscus as well as the ACL and so it To him it was a different sign of the the type of procedure, which is not a bad thing It doesn't hurt long-term recovery, but it does indicate it's gonna be a longer process for short-term recovery so he expects him to not start the season week one and so I Guess I would just tell people This is a by candidate the whole season he's gonna start on the pop He's gonna start slow. He probably will not be full strength until late in the 2026 season Maybe he can help people win championships sure by him mid-season but it you know, don't be afraid of oh my gosh, this is gonna be some devastating career-ending injury because We were told he's gonna be ready for week one and now he's not that's I don't I don't think that was correct information from the get-go but his You will have to monitor and be careful with the ADP knowing what you're getting yourself into For sure you you where he's going right now in ADP is too high I expect if we get closer to the season it looks like he's gonna start on the pop People won't be drafting him as like the sixth wide receiver or whatever Because you're gonna miss a month and then he's gonna come back and not be full candidate But Yeah, I mean obviously still a super talented guy the pewter report They're reporting that bucky Irving has not been cleared to Participate yet as in he's not participating in like getting hit or team stuff So bets our injury guy. We had the notes. I'm gonna do my best. He had a shoulder You got this Yeah, a shoulder Subluxation, that's exactly right. Yes. Is it yes, that's great. All right. I mean The computer says so Also known as a partial dislocation Just say that right freaking scientists doctors and nerds all they all they know is big words You're like, well, what's that? Oh, it's a partial dislocation that to be fair dislocation is kind of a big word Well, it's a medium word Mediums are the mediums are okay So bett believes there there should be no issues to be cleared before the start of the season It's just he had a recent surgery just keeps compounding on itself for bucky That wasn't yeah, because a lot of it all the worries of bucky was like the mental health the rumors, you know like maybe he wasn't Really doing well and part of that was I think that he was having mental issues with the physical injuries But the timeline of this specific surgery should not get in the way of the start of the season But in the meantime keep Kenny gain. Well, Kenneth gain. Well is there coming off a sensational season with the Pittsburgh Steelers The the bucks prioritized him. I I will be drafting Kenny Kenneth gain. Well will be a late-round like Target for me. I get that Panthers general manager Dan Morgan said the team will quote keep talking through a potential extension for Bryce young the the situation of Bryce young and CJ Stroud Very difficult Bryce young is is impossibly difficult because Like CJ Stroud has been disappointing. We talked about that yesterday on the footcast right the the four interception dropping in the playoffs Bryce young hasn't really done much good at all you know this I mean his team was in the playoffs, but You know, it's just it's been It's been very lackluster of you know 2025 his best year He narrowly Surpassed 3,000 passing yards. He had three games all year where he threw for more than 205. Yes, they did. Matt wants they did play the Rams tough in the playoffs because they're Defense of running game is it's good like that's what I mean of the team is not being carried by Bryce young and The same for the Houston, Texas last year. They CJ Stroud was not the identity of the team. The identity was the defense They're not it's not that they are catastrophically bad quarterbacks, but When you have guys like this, you have to make a decision And do you like you get in with where the Giants were with Daniel Jones? We're like, I Guess we have to pay him, but we know it's probably not the right idea But if you let him go now Like having him on the team is better than not right You're gonna take a step back if you lose Bryce young or siege Well, maybe not see just drop it solely because they they have a backup that looked just no. Oh, no, General Mills Oh, no, I look better, but Yeah, if I am a pan if you're a Panthers fan You don't want a long-term contract for Bryce. I wonder I wonder what they what the fans. I mean, I know I wouldn't want that I don't believe he's like capable of winning a Super Bowl And isn't that I Mean, that's always like the philosophical question of would you rather have? You know a Kirk Cousins Be competitive every year for years. You've got a good offense. You got a good team You got hope you're getting in the playoffs all the time like not current Kirk Cousins, right? But you kind of know like you're not winning a Super Bowl with Kirk Cousins I mean as a Cardinals fan, I would kill for Kirk Cousins years, but I don't even know if Bryce young's at that level The jet-signed Fireball Jones aka Tim Patrick. That's only in here because we we stand for Tim Patrick forever The NFL schedule that palaces in our news This is cool. Yeah, it's in our news for a reason The season will begin with a Super Bowl rematch between the the Patriots and the Seahawks neat in Seattle on Wednesday night Is that because the? Yeah, the Australia game was gonna be Wednesday night. I think the Australia's the Thursday. Oh, well Football's on the way and there's going to be a lot of it Chiefs Broncos the first Monday night, but the big the big news to me Thanksgiving clear your schedule. Yeah, I mean, it's kind of absurd. They've got a Thanksgiving Eve game They've got a Black Friday game now, but to me the only thing that matters is Thanksgiving Day football is going to be so Freaking awesome. Yeah, barring quarterback injuries or whatever Every year there's a game or two and in years past when the Cowboys stunk and the Lions stunk I felt like Thanksgiving football was just bad game bad game and then they have a decent game. This is Bears Lions awesome Eagles Cowboys awesome, and then you in the night. Yeah with Chiefs bills. Yeah Yeah, and then I know what I'm thankful for Amazon's like holy crap. Look at this schedule. What do we get on Black Friday? They're like we're giving you the up-and-coming Denver Broncos. They were one Quarterback injury away from making it to the Super Bowl and who are they playing? first dealers the Steelers who's your quarterback? I don't know. They don't know we got bow nicks versus Drew Aller Rogers who cares? Sorry Amazon. I'm not in steel. We're gonna. We're gonna wash the game. Oh, yeah But we'll be coming off the high of the Chiefs bills What a game that's gonna be so yeah, look that entire week clear the schedule. All right We're moving on but we got to take a quick break Oh, so we're just right into the mailbag is that what we're doing that is correct. All right dynasty mailbag Oh Mailbag Dynasty edition All right. Oh, and we have a voice to do I would guys I was I think this is the first dynasty week show I've ever Hosted for sure and I'm just not on my game. I was not prepared for this, but we do have a voicemail Hey, ballers calling in for Mike for you home in Canada Sure joining a startup of dynasty this year any tips Draft tips general tips anything be great. Thank you Yeah, so we Jason mentioned our dynasty pod show comes out every Wednesday with with Jason myself and or one of us usually one of us and then Kyle the Borgogan and Matthew Betts That goes year-long. There's always tons of tips on there We had Or this week we did our top 10 dynasty startup questions So that that would be a great place for you to start essentially we you know the the the real basic of the basic is You're gonna want to build your foundation of young elite wide receivers yes over running backs just because of Yes, the shelf life Not that they elite running backs aren't important. They definitely are it can Really help you in a championship And then don't really don't overvalue the youth Completely where your team is just like hey in three years My team is gonna be if you if you start any Dynasty team with a thought of in two to three years this team this team right here. That's not gonna work I Whenever I see teams draft that way. They're always three years away You have any quick tips other than that J My quick tips are essentially those first like four rounds focus on wide receivers Over the running backs you kind of alluded to that but you've got the guys like James Cook. We just talked about how good he is He's so good. He's almost 27. He's older than you think right Christian McCaffrey You're gonna win a championship with but when you're doing a start-up draft by the end Maybe you know oh, I'm a contender But you don't know when you're in the first round the second round the third fourth round Maybe right the way that the draft comes to you you build a more youthful team Maybe you are a contender and but you don't know and so since you don't know I want to build A foundation I don't want you know where Christian McCaffrey is going to get drafted in the startup draft There's probably going to be a young proven wide receiver that I can get um, you know better value then Later in the draft That's where I go for the old men. I love getting the you know No one in a dynasty startup draft is drafting Matthew Stafford. I mean, he's just dead Because yeah, especially the old court like Stafford and Dak Yeah, quarterbacks who probably have a few more years of of really high value for fantasy football, but People in startup dynasty drafts want the young quarterbacks And so just pay attention to them. Yeah, like so if you're feeling oh, man, I'm a little thin here at quarterback Take a pause Take a breath because those guys will be there for you later. Yeah, even though Yeah, it's it's not a sexy pick, but it's a good pick. All right. This one's off of uh, instagram rick deeks Is christian watson a trade fork candidate in full ppr. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, I don't think his value currently sits he is 27 which is I can't believe watson's been in the year in the league that long Oh, that's because he hasn't played as many games as you would think for for a guy that age. That's true What's his uh Contract right now. Do you know it off the top of your head? He's in the final year of the contract. Remember they had uh, they'd given him the injury contract Yes, he got he tore the acl or I think it was acl and they kind of gave him the contract to say no, you're secure here We want secure her Uh, but I christian watson is yeah, it looks like he's got a couple void years on his contract after this one I think he'll get an extension. I am As of right now where everything is going shaking out with the market what I think of teams christian watson is a glaring value To me right now. I think that there are some rookies this year some You know, if you're assuming your rookie draft is over like if I could trade any Second round rookie pick this year for christian watson I would do that but if your rookie draft is over look at who you drafted Right at the the back of the first the early second and I think that those players in this year's draft have You know the hope the the potential out there They probably won't hit what christian watson can do and just a reminder if you're you know just catching up The green bay packers no longer have romeo dobs. He is on the patriots. They traded don taveon wicks the The hope and the promise every year of wicks being a breakout. So he's on the eagles now And and tucker craft and tucker craft is returning from his own injury I I think the targets are going to get consolidated here the where It's green bay where they've you know been doing these things of Playing a lot of wide receivers sometimes you feel like why is this guy getting snaps? But they that's been their method. They can't now they current the the current depth chart to me says it's going to be watson What is the problem with jaden reed? What is the problem with jaden reed? What if for fantasy? He is only on the field for three wide receiver sets, right? And so they play a lot of two wide receiver snaps. So now Christian watson. Yep. And who else? Matthew golden. So you're telling me You're telling me christian watson just has to compete with matthew golden for targets on a lot of snaps easy bet easy bet Sometimes it's just too easy Uh, we got a trade block question off of x from hawks fan What's your stance on placing a player in the trade block? Does there does that hurt their perceived value by letting the whole league know they're available? Or do you find it worth it to make sure that all potential bidders know? I'm this is a good question that I Have as well because I don't have the answer when I put a player on the trade block what I feel like has happened is everyone just goes Oh, you're giving this guy away How about my garbage you want my garbage like that's what I experience But on the other side, I do see moments where someone puts someone on the trade block And then the next day that player has found a new home and I'm like, oh so so it can work and I I guess from this is anecdotal Um, absolutely no evidence here, but I think it's just What tier of player is it if you put a high tier player on the trade block? You get good offers. Yes. Like you are announcing at that point you're announcing Hey, I am willing to hear offers on Jamar chase Which people aren't just going out there making offers on some of the best players because they just assume Not possible. It's not possible Um, but you know if if there's news, you know, I I've seen it where it's like Bad news comes out on a middle tier player And so then that player goes on the trade block You think we all don't know the news. Yeah You're gonna get a fast one over On us everyone in the league has the notifications. Like those things just hurt a player's value. Yeah the I agree with that. I I think the trade block is good. Do you use it? Uh, yeah, I do I do I you know, I If I have a pull that you know, I'm trying to make some moves. I'll put a guy in the block I would say though I have had experiences with people You know, like a one manager Where it's like, okay a player keeps getting players keep getting put on the block and then you like reach out Oh, let's have a conversation And it turns into like the boy who cried wolf situation where you're like, you're you don't actually want to trade this guy You're you're wanting Me to come in and over pay for this player. It's like that's not that's not how this works. So then it that Creates a situation where I don't I don't even want to talk to this manager or like because I know we're not getting anything worked out So yeah, just just avoid that. So Jeremy just said you can always reject lowball offers any trade negotiations are better than no Trade negotiations and while that part is true what you're experiencing I've I've definitely been there. I have 100 been to the place where I don't I just stop Working with certain managers. Yeah, because I feel like we can't get a job done. So if you You you know, you've got a you got to be responsible on both sides agreed Uh, instagram from lucky kyle trade christian mccaffey mccaffey christian mccaffrey for travion hinderson Straight up. Oh man. Oh, baby context for this one really really matters mccaffrey Though he is my dude he he is a human being We don't know how long he will be elite for in the nfl I think we're all still projecting a healthy mccaffrey on the 49ers this year will be awesome for fantasy football How long does he have? and then the conversation about hinderson Like I am in a trickier spot now. I brought him up on this week's dynasty podcast that we were looking at all the the year two running backs of Like though these were the chosen ones last year we all knew and and There's greatness there But when you look at all now all the situations going into year two is like, oh Oh man, something's got to break right you are the most Man crush on yeah, hinderson hinderson on the field I thought was You know he I thought he should have had his break out. He had his breakout with the patriots That's where this is so difficult for me because he had the breakout and then they went ramondray came back and they went right back to Ramondray, yeah, instead of doing the appropriate thing of hey our young second round running back Is who we thought he was it's time to flip this up and then we're no we're gonna make a super bowl run here and We want ramondray to be the leader of the timeshare. There's two things with this One that is bad is ramondray still has a lot of money and years I believe he has at least two years left on his deal So from a dynasty perspective that can hurt hindo, but on a positive side They went back to ramondray and they did that Like in the playoffs when things really mattered and I think a lot of that if you look at ramondray was fumbling again last year But past protection and like some of the veteran things that matter I think mattered to them coming into year two Henderson should get better as a running back like better as an athlete. He's coming into his prime He will have more trust more knowledge of the system. I do expect him to I have hindersen Significantly ahead of ramondray this year in reed, right? So it's funny when I was talking about the startup tips I had been looking at where christian mccaffrey was going in just consensus startup drafts right now and He's right in a four pack of different positions. You have jordan tyson tyler warren christian mccaffrey and travion hinderson. Oh, man. So it's like those four man And if You you said this right because this was a trade trade question. Yes the context of your team matters What is your window because championship teams should be trying to trade for christian mccaffrey? put yourself over the top get the get the trophy If i'm in a startup draft christian mccaffrey, I would take after all those players if i'm building a foundation of a team for the future I would rather have jordan tyson tyler warren and travion hinderson Yeah Yeah, all right Age cliffs we got this is off of youtube. What age do you begin devaluing a player and how does that age differ per position? Uh, it so there's a couple things here. I think it differs between position internally within the position so Not every quarterback play is the same style of game if you rely on the running game It's usually an earlier age cliff than like a matthew stafford and erin rogers a dak presscott that can You know go a little bit deeper into their career. I know mike you used to have some good This is several years ago, but you saw the end coming For cam newton, right before that was pop popular um, so when you're looking at that with um Say jaylon herts jaylon herts is age cliff cliff is going to be a little bit earlier than um what it will be for dak presscott Lamar was scary his passing has gotten so much better like like josh allen Is less scary because he can also throw for 4540 just from the pocket when that switch happens for allen He will be fine. Yeah, and I'm getting to the point when the switch happens for lamar. I think he's going to be okay, too like I think he will remain You Athletic and fast enough that maybe you know, we're not getting all the rushing yards we we want out of him But it's going to help him stay You know not getting hit in the pocket and things like that. So The we do we do have an article we'll point out in the dynasty pass one of our writers big marv It's an excellent Excellent article that we we go back and we refresh and look at things But I'll give you so essentially like for a running back 27 is the age where they're still going to be They can still be great the cell window open but But if you're trying to not hold the bag, right you got to get out wide receivers. It's around 29 And then tight ends is you know like that tight ends are Strange almost every position peaks starting about 25 and then if you want like the death Year where it's like that you Congratulations, you have the bag and of course there are your tom brades and your derek hindries, but that's not normal No, it's 34 at quarterback 30 at running back 31 at wide receiver and 32 at tight end Got a next question from it's a me mario 2912 would you trade bijon for hampton and a first? Or would you try to get more? Bijon for hampton and a first I would I think I would I think I would do that because 2027 Is a loaded draft Hampton and bijon I keep bijon Yeah, I mean obviously bijon is outstanding. We had we didn't get the opportunity to see what hampton could be So it's a bit of a projection. It's basically if put it this way. I think 2027 First round picks are going to be real. Yes foundational pieces for a team if hampton is the running back say six I think everyone would take this deal you would prefer to have the running back six and a foundational wide receiver Yes for bijon if I knew how hampton was going to do this year But if hampton is I'm just saying if if you think what is the number? Where you would say okay a foundational piece and the running back eight. Would you do that? With the running back 12, would you do that the running back 15? Would you so at some point? There's where you you've got to say. What do I believe hampton is going to be who has hampton and dino senior? I do not know. You have bijon. Would you send that? Would you be willing to do that offer right now? Oh, that's that's that really puts it to the yeah, it feels I don't think you would do it feels like a no immediately It felt like a no because bijon is my is my beautiful. Yes. Wow. Who has him? Go look curious because he does gold. Okay. Goldy's team sucks, right? He's a rebuild. Yeah That's tempting. Yeah, I would do that. Oh man. Oh my gosh. Would I do that? Oh my gosh, that's a great here's the thing though is wait how try gold is trash trash, right? Yeah Oh, dude, I got to make that offer Oh, but can I do it you can look at because running back where bijon can be as the running back one Versus the running back six, you know, it's the the top three running backs every year are They they lap the field of the running back six the running back six is it's Inconsequential compared to whoever the number one or number two guy is on a usual year for fancy football So that's why I'm still on the the bijon side and You know, I want 20 27 firsts. I think the The The dynasty world is awake to those like maybe there's some stragglers who aren't hearing all the buzz about that that the trade would be accepted, right? If I make that Maybe Maybe this is spicy I don't know. I don't know if he has his True first what i'm looking for right now. All right. Well now that you're really distracted. Yeah, uh, this is a question from the website Wrap this show up. We got work to do from jeff And my name is jeff in button willow A bonjour Button willow button willow california. I hope that's two words not three You know what I mean It's one word jason. Oh, all right even better I have the 102 in a dynasty rookie draft. I am rb knee. Okay. It's this is a price Do I take price and pass one of the top wide receivers? Well, if andy were here, he would say yes. Yes it but andy is not here. So I will say no this is you got to personally say do you believe in Jadarian price did he say he's like in a he's a contender. I mean if he's weak at running back He's probably not a contender all we know is the 102 and an rb needy team. No. No if you're an rb needy team I don't think price Gives you a championship Like he's not gonna if you're rb needy I don't think he pushes you over the top and if you're not getting pushed over the top take the best player and I think you've got Whether tyson or tate those guys just seem Significantly better to me and it's and it's to you one of the tips andy kept saying On our there's a recent maybe maybe the last episode It's like don't just go by consensus. We what we do here is we give you our opinion We give you how to think about it and we try to entertain you we try to be accurate all those things But don't just listen to us go watch jadarian price. See what you think Look look at his film be like man. I love this guy. This guy's awesome or I don't like what I see. I mean make your own opinion. But in my opinion, I would take the wide receivers It's It's difficult for me. I got I don't blame anyone if you're at the 102 and I will say almost everyone in dynasty needs a running back. We all need them But if you're like, no, I'm down bad. I have to get someone I'm okay with it but my evaluation is that tates And or tyson or you know, I think one of them if not both will turn into Not not the jamar tier But that tier right underneath. I think both of those guys could hit that and the fact that they are with you know the young quarterbacks I'm in enough on cam board to to be like, yeah, this he looks like he could be in a franchise guy I'm super in on shuck already and the fact that you're like he kellen moore and shuck I think it's going to be fantastic. Dable will help for cam board. So Just where I think that those wide receivers Are headed. I couldn't do that for someone who I think splits time. I think he becomes a kenneth walker type. I don't Charms will be charms is banged up, you know late season Knee injury, but he will be back and they when he's back, they're gonna use him for sure and sure there it was so Frustrating to have walker on your team and see Greatness happen and they're like put sharps in. Why are we doing this? And so if they three down price then Anyone who didn't take him at 102 is going to feel bad. So it's you got to make all those evaluations New new question. Well, hold on You have a new question jason Yeah, so next year you got some stars of stars Um in like jeremy smith. Yeah, the the high end wide receivers next year are Going to be spicy. Yeah and in a running back or two. So you're gonna you're gonna have some top end heavy town I mean williams to turn it around get back on track Bijon for 20 27 first and hampton Where you get a chance at maybe Jeremiah smith if you felt like you had a good chance at jeremiah smith plus hampton for bj on the yes or a guaranteed carnell tate And omari and hampton. Oh interesting for bijon. Which would you prefer? Oh, man Carnel tate is you know in most drafts right now. I think he's the 102 one or two or 103 for most. Yes The number one wider shiver taken in this year. Oh, man Because the guy has both of those I'm looking at his team. I'm like man, would I rather just have the short thing? You know the the 102 pick and tate or the chance for The 101 next year. I'll that that's a gambling man right there. Yeah, that's a gambling man. All right off of ig Dak or mahomes for a contender. Oh my gosh, we have to ask this question. Um This this is our our beloved art our golden child patrick mahomes. What have you done to our boy? I know what have you done? I I'm I'm still look at my boy I'm still on the patrick mahomes side and I have him ranked significantly lower than dak in redraft right now um, you know coming off of the injury I think he gets off to a slower start runs less and he was running a ton this year, which was helping him for fantasy um, you have a Like three and a half year age gap here But you also have a talent gap like dak is is very good. Dak is not mahomes I think if you tell me dak starts fading away at 34 35 So dak right now will he'll be 33 soon and then mahomes will turn 31 this year Yeah, hey, kyle. How many years in a row has dak outscored patrick mahomes in fantasy football? Oh my gosh Is it three? Are you gonna? I don't know. I've this is not a god. Yeah, it's probably this is a real question. I can tell you Uh, kyle look up dak the last three years from mahomes. He's been the quarterback eight eleven and eleven However this last year he was oh, he was he was great. He was on fire. He finishes 11 because he he didn't finish the season On a per game basis though. He had to have been outscoring dak Oh man. All right, kyle you looked that up. We'll come back to it off of the website shane in seattle Uh, let's see. So oh, we got it. Dak had the injured year Yeah in 24. So two of the last three But not really because this last year on a per game basis On a per game basis mahomes was outscoring him the last two years. Yes. Yeah, he was Oh I hate that I would I hate that we even have to ask that question I think if you look at like who has the chance to be the quarterback one over the next five years You know, I brought this up with um Five is long. I would let's let's run that three. No, but the reason I say five is I've brought this up with mahomes in the past like I don't love his weapons right now. Kelsey's getting older They didn't really go out and get a new guy in the draft You look at tom brady an all-time go a guy that's going to go down as first ballot blind hall of fame type of quarterback in mahomes Tom brady wasn't always great for fans. He was always fine But then he would have his years where he won you championships And I think that's still in the cards for mahomes. My homes might play to 40 And end up having An overall quarterback one. I don't think dak Has, you know, dak could be the quarterback five this year And the quarterback five next year and then get and then start fading into oblivion I you know, that's kind of my outlook. So from a dynasty perspective, I would still prefer I think dak can be qb1 this year You give an actual full year of both cd and george are healthy I mean It's they did improve their defense. I think significantly. Yeah, sadly They're still they're they're gonna air it out with those two guys Uh, let's see from the way. Oh from the website. Shane in seattle. I was offered Teteroa mcmillan for drake london. I love both of these guys. I would much rather have drake london Okay, I wasn't we had had some discussions about mcmillan. I wasn't sure if you were Had moved t mac over london. No, I haven't I drake london's So good their their age is a year apart. This isn't Um You know, it's not the widest gap I think You know what we saw with drake london with pennies when pennies was playing and we don't know that pennies is even going to be the quarterback But presumed he's still there. So if he's not the quarterback, it's because they think it's an upgraded option What we saw with drake london with pennies was outstanding for fantasy Um Bryce young has to level up. Yes, he does. I would as I said, he narrowly Through 3 000. Yes, brice young like the idea that he's going to throw 4 000 yards Seems like a that seems impossible a really bad bet He I mean maybe but that would take a complete level up for him. Yeah, and so therefore Teteroa mcmillan who is awesome Um, I think has a harder path to be You know a top five fantasy wide receiver and drake london He he will be getting the bag very very soon. Yeah, so oh so he's in he will be in his year five Yeah, the it's in the fifth year option. So he'll he'll get a bag is on the way for drake london. All right last question here I think this is a very fun one off of uh twitter from dave trade away Brian thomas jr for luther burton Oh, man The guy who has done it and then was terrible For the guy who was very slow and then Had moments where you're like dat dude is the guy they share they share a lot in common in the sense that we've seen both guys be incredible on the field I also think that the biggest problem for both players is target competition, right like You know you you've got a lot of mouths to feed in both places, but Man luther burdens film was so fun to watch This is a hard one. I believe right now And this is not saying luther burn is bad. I just think he is being overvalued could be like it's very it It's very it the bet is so heavy on a yes right now for him like where he's being drafted is is so heavy on the yes side that I think it's Probably not the the same odds that he does hit And the exact opposite is true for for brian thomas Okay, he's being drafted so low that like like he's dead and I think it's I think those are two over exaggerate I would take brian thomas jr But I'm very curious your answer I think i'm taking burden. Yeah, that's why this is such a good. That's a really difficult question I want to pull the doosers on this one. Yes. I just want to know Yeah Man's answer was no all right go to the dooser cam go to the dooser cam We'll start with jeremy to give matt more time. What do you btj for all right same for me? Oh I'll go burden then Yeah All right, all right I'm gonna be so good. 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