Katie Lowes & Cameron Mathison: Exposure Therapy & Gifts

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Yeah, it's a Christmas special. I didn't know today's a Christmas special. Now, Katie, I am shocked you are back. After what you went through the trauma. I'm not gonna lie, I am too, guys. Did you hesitate like when you were invited back? No, but I was glad there was like a nice buffer of like a week and a half to like shower a bunch and sober up. I gotta hear about this. Process what I saw last Tuesday night. I actually thought Cameron, you might be, I actually thought Cameron might be good. Cameron and Katie in the audience. We always say that like the chumps sexually harass us. Cameron would get literally sexually harassed. Bring it on, let's see what you got. Did you get sexually harassed? No, but everybody commented on my body. We do have some lesbians. Shout out, Lesbians. Mostly women or men in the crowd. Lesbians! The men in the crowd were not attracted to Katie. It's 9-0-1 or 2. Here we go. Mostly women and, you know, you probably don't get this because, well, I just look different than on camera that I do in real life. And at this point, after 20 years of working on television, I know this. So it was just your crowd was filled with like, shit, you have a great body because I guess they don't think I do. Which is nice, I work hard at it. I'm healthy, blah, blah, blah. But like, that's what everyone was commenting on. Do you have like photos on your Instagram of like bikini photos or anything? It was like, God, no! That's why they don't know. That's a hard no. I also spent 10 years on TV being pregnant twice, breastfeeding for three years, whatever. Shit was real. I know. Wah, wah, that's that sound cue, isn't it? So now you said your assessment of the chumps is that a lot of them have alcohol problems. Yeah, guys, I love you all so much. I really, really do. Look, I love to drink as well. But this is extraordinary. I think, I imagine, people will not remember. They were looking forward to this night. They were gearing up for it. This was their one time to just go a little nuts. Honestly, they call in Tuesday. They call in Tuesday at 9.15. I mean, wasted. But they pay all this money and I feel like they don't remember it the next day. Like it was belligerent, not walking, can't put sentences together. That's how we got them to come back. That's a perfect business plan. We did the show together. It was exactly the same. They're like, did you do this show last year? Whatever, I don't know. I also just so like, okay, two things take aways from the night. A, I got to work on this in therapy, but I'm so conflict diverse. And there's so much like in fighting that people, your people are just real comfortable with that. And I'm not like, like you're amazing job. They're amazing, but like, wow, they're so cool at like yelling in each other's faces. And I'm just not. I saw those two lovely gentlemen who are married. They get in, they yelled at somebody really badly for not getting invited to something. And then Joey and Annie were in a fight. And then the first woman I interviewed was trying to rip the mic away from me like super aggressively. And I just was like, this is a lot. And I thought everyone hated me like the whole time and I was doing things wrong because Doug had coached me so hard on like, don't let the mic go. You have to vet the questions. You have to know what's going on inside. You can't ask Jeff about this that or you can. And I didn't know it was like high pressure. You know what it is? It's like therapy for like, it's, you know, it's like boot camp to put you through that. You're going to come out tougher. You're going to become out more resilient. It's exposure therapy. Yeah. Exposure therapy. Put her in the highest conflict situation. That's what I'm saying. So Cameron, you are a professional host. I believe the number one rule is you never let go of the mic. So that was what we had ingrained in Katie Lowe's head. So there was one particularly very strong drunk woman. Katie, I mean, she was wrestling you for that. She was my first person. Like, it's not even like I could warm up. Do you know what I mean? She wasn't my 10th where I was like, you know, had grown a pair of balls by that point. I felt better, more comfortable in the arena. She wanted that mic. She was my first person and she was absolutely obliterated, slurring, strong and scary. The best part is that Jeff called her out and then she was like, And Jeff was mean to her and then she left. Well, no, Jeff called her out and she's like, wait, no, no, I'm not drunk. No, but you don't get it. I was like, damn, it's we had just started the show. To be fair, she did leave. Crystal felt bad about it. I felt like I fucked up, which is per usual. Then she came back. Then her husband sat on somebody's lap at our table and I was like, I give up. I don't understand this crowd. Do you not remember that? I didn't know they came back. Yes, she came back and her husband or I think I'm husband. I think whoever some guy, I think it was her husband. Joey's lap. Did he sit on Joey's lap? It was either Michael's lap or Joey's lap. Yeah, it was all wild. Look, this is a wild night. And we spent two hours in the car prepping Katie. You don't know what's about to happen. These people are crazy. They're going to go off and she was like, I got it. I'm a professional. You needed me there with you in the car. Yeah, next time you're coming with me. I got you. You are going to get. We could use some professionals. Truly. We could. We really could. We could be like just your kind of security guards slash professional. They will grab you, grope you. You have no idea. You have no idea. Now it'll be more actual. Was it last year where the woman, she had been eating ribs and then wiped her hands on the woman in front of her. I'm appalled. I am absolutely appalled by that behavior. That's fucking unacceptable. Yeah. So that's why when they get that drunk, I almost rather them leave. Do you know what I'm saying? Of course. It's like they're going to, somebody threw up in an aisle. That's why I wasn't mad when that, when the girl left. We also shouldn't serve ribs. That's just a message. You're right. The idea was a disservice. You know, something dry, something easy. Yeah. The other takeaway that I had was I got to ride down with y'all down there. And I just have to say not to kiss your ass, but my God, you work really hard. And that was really impressive. Like you're, everyone's having a great time and you're laughing and everyone's fucking getting wasted, but you are like practicing your notes and looking over your cards and want to give everybody a really good show. And I respect that. Like that was really impressive. Thank you. Like I saw a little bit behind the curtain and you are such a hard work. Like you just really care. Thank you. Thank you. That's what I'd like to say. And I think, I think Keen worked really hard on those shows too. No, he really did. Oh my God. Shay, not so much. You are the two of you. Thank God we had Keen. The takeaway. The two of you. You two work so hard. No, they do. In the prep, in like controlling the crowd, making sure everybody's having a good time. Like it was, you guys really worked your ass off. Now congratulations. What about Annie? Well, thank God for Annie because she was like my companion. She was coming around with me, vetting the thing, vetting the questions until I, she knew I could be trusted. You did great that night. Also, you were amazing curbing his monologue. Yes. Oh yeah. What do you mean by that? Made for a better show. What do you mean by curbing his monologue? Well Jeff, just like talks and talks and talks and it's like stop talking. Oh, so you were like. She means exactly what she says. Got it. So yeah, I got you. Cameron literally. So you just reel him in a little. It's really, really subtle. Ending up in the middle of the show. Should we like stop? I'm like. Move it. She's like this. Like. It actually made for a much better show. It was great. I hope. Yeah. She has a great meter of when you're like. I know. Repeating yourself or we're done. I know. I know. So here's the thing though. I come from a family where we get it out and then the next morning wake up, everybody's fine. So there's, there is some fighting and there's some screaming and but then we let it go. So I guess maybe it's the, my, my family dynamic, but in that green room when they're yelling at each other, my feeling is, okay, they're all going to get it out and then tomorrow will be good. But the problem is, is that we're not good. It's stuck with them. Well, not everybody's got that same family dynamic because I don't think that's like, you know what I mean? Like that's interesting that that's how you grew up. So for you, that's very almost. Yeah. Just the way to get through things. But I would have met like in my, you know, growing up with me, that would be, we'd be hanging on to that man. I wouldn't, I wouldn't forget it. I don't hang on to that. You said on the, on the clip, you, you can hear you saying like, let him get it all out. He's good. Just like spill it out and then cause you thought that would be the end of it. Oh my God. I literally like exited the room. I was like, I'm having a heart attack. I can't, I can't. You thought they were kidding at one point. I thought it was like staged. I was like, what have I landed in? Is this, is this, yes. Well, it was right after a prayer. We did a prayer circle. We had to do the prayer. We have to. I mean, obviously. It didn't work. We did a big prayer circle. Well, there's a lot of celery. God was like, you're on your own. You're all like, well, let's have a great show. There were so many things that made me uncomfortable. She was super late. I don't do well when people are late. I'm LaKendra. I can't deal with that. Like we didn't even know if she was in Orange County. I didn't know where I was. I was out of my comfort zone. However, I still think, and hopefully you chumps that were there or whatever, I tried to deliver in the audience participation. I think you carried it. You carried it. You did a great job. What? Where are you worried? No, it was great. I felt bad the whole time that Joey was like, MIA. Oh, don't feel bad. It wasn't your fault. Okay. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. As you know, yesterday I was very upset because I had found out that Sirius XM had a holiday party and that they, I guess, I, for whatever reason, didn't get the invitation. So after the show, I had, I stormed into HR. I said that I would like to file a complaint. Now she was on a Zoom call with other HR executives from Sirius XM. I thought it was a great forum to air my grievances. I agreed. The, I believe, did you notice there was a little bit of excuse making? They said, you know, I think what happened is that in, was it Denver or something or Dallas? Atlanta. Atlanta. Atlanta, we have another Jeff Lewis. So we think that your invite went to Jeff.luis at Sirius XM. Have we asked this Jeff Lewis? He doesn't exist. He does not exist. There's no other Jeff Lewis. Oh, okay. Is there also a Kiki.monique because she didn't get invited either. And I said, look, I don't want to, I don't want to, you know, mention it. I'm not litigious. I said, I don't even want to talk about a hostile work environment, but I said, I want my two free drink tickets. That's what I want because everyone got two free drink tickets. Let me ask you this. Last Christmas and the Christmas, like, have you in the past been invited to the party? I think there was probably parties that I just didn't know about. You didn't know about. How did we find out about this party? There weren't any parties. I heard it on Julia Cunningham show. Oh, because Julia was invited. And they were talking about being invited to the Sirius XM. Where was it? I have some intel. I have some intel. First, after Jeff left. Don't even start your bullshit excuses. After Jeff left, I went around and had to apologize on behalf of Jeff Lewis live. Why? Why would you apologize? They should be apologizing to you and to me and to Kiki. And you're all not invited to this? Well, the intel I got was it actually technically was not a party. In fact, Sirius XM is not hosting a whole, which is something to say. Not hosting any holiday parties. What happened was the kind people at the various culture departments that we have here had some extra budget and they pulled it together and use their resources to create a winter fest, which is like kind of like a party, but not an official party. A winter fest is a party. But I will say this. I wasn't, I was invited. Jeff also was still not invited. You were invited? I was. Wait a minute. You were invited. Jeff was not invited. Yes. So like, Is that insane? Yes. So I will say, Jeff was not invited. I do think Jeff should have been invited, but it was clarity that it technically was not a holiday party. It was a winter fest. To me, that's a horrible point. That doesn't hold up at all. It was a winter fest instead of a Christmas party. I like a festival too. I like a festival. So I got an email, right? So after I reported, after I filed a complaint and with so many, because of, you know, of course I'm fucking around, but they take it real seriously in there. So now it's like a real grievance, like a real complaint. So now they feel like they have to cover their asses. So I got the, I got the email back. It was actually not a holiday party. SXM is not having any parties this year and they specifically could not call it a holiday party. Some of the heads of the various culture departments, this is what you're saying. Women's group pulled their excess budget to put on this winter fest event. Bullshit. Bullshit. I wrote, they are backtracking. They will hear from all of my lawyers. My family law attorney, my real estate attorney, my tax attorney, they're all calling. Well, they're going to be shaking. I want to, especially your tax attorney, I want to understand when you walked into that, like how much of it was just for kicks and how much of, like how, how butt hurt were you? Well, a little butt hurt, but I don't, I just want the drink tickets. I heard the charcuterie was not that good and then it was gone in like 20 minutes. Where was it? But there was a DJ. No, some random bar in Hollywood. And Jim, I also heard a rumor that there was, they were charging $20 for parking. So you had to pay to go to the party. They did not even comp the parking. I can't believe that. Well, I would have voted for it. I heard also say, it was, it was Tuesday at 4pm. It was not a very convenient time for a get together. Yeah. So like most people on the eighth floor didn't go. They knew I was working. And that's why they scheduled at that time. They knew you had a spray. Now we're going to have a little chat. Now you got some shit. Oh my gosh. Add that to your next email. Also are your lawyers really, are you going to keep this going? Are the lawyers going to contact them? Well, the funny thing is, I think if I had just gone into, we have to, we can't call her by her real name. So Smelly's office. If we, if I had just gone into Smelly's office and there was, I didn't know there was a zoom happening. So when I would have just gone in and like fucked around, but then I realized that all of the whole HR department was on the zoom. So then I think they took it a little more seriously, which is why we got this bullshit excuse and also the Jeff.luis. Come on. I'm dumb, but I'm not stupid. I know that is, that's a bad. Can Jameson search the network to see if that person exists? Okay, do it. Jeff.luis. Smart. Yeah. I can't believe you haven't done that yet. Check the directory. That would have been the first thing I would have done. You are leaving out the fact that mid show you stormed into someone else's show. Well, that's what I'm worried about. Somebody might write me up because. Oh, whatever. You have a million of those. I only have six. That's a lot. So I was so upset and sometimes I can't regulate my emotions that I stormed into a live show next door with Julia Cunningham. And I said, were you invited to Cirrus XM party? And she goes, yeah. And I'm like, motherfuckers. And then I stormed out. So it's possible I could get it right up. But Julia is my friend. She's not going to write me up. But the other people could. Probably could have handled that a little better. I could have gone a little better. Yeah. I'm just shocked. I just don't think there's like who that's just bad, bad business. No, I'm going to tell you why I'm one of the biggest hypocrites in the world because I am like Patrick and Paul right now with Ryan's baby shower. 100%. Have you noticed that? Yeah. The other point of clarification is Jeff is technically a contracted employee, not a full time employee. So I think they had just invited kind of like a full time employee. Well is Julia Cunningham a full time employee? Yeah. She's in this weird nebulous state where she's technically an employee, not an independent contractor. So she's in this nebulous thing. So like it came into our calendar. So she gets to go to the winter. I just came on to my calendar one day. Would you have gone if you were invited? No. I'll tell you why. No, he wouldn't. The address, no. I would have gone. I go to every one of those events and I'll tell you why. SiriusXM is very close to the vest with their numbers, with their, their demographics, all of that. What I do is I find the drunkest executives and then I ask them questions and that's where I get all my intel. I had no idea the show was even successful years ago until I went to those parties. And talk to the right drunk person. Correct. So thank God the SiriusXM executives are drinkers. Great. That seems to really... Allegedly. Are you out of control, dude? You should have invited them to your event. We'll get right in. You're right. They wouldn't have gone because it was in Brea. How did you guys... Sorry, I just had the visual. How'd you roll down there altogether like in a big party band? We were in like a big escal... No, no. We were in a couple like escalated... I love that entourage coming down the five freeway. It was just five escalates. It was wild. I'm like trying to figure out how to get to the highway. I had no idea where we were. And we had our hazard lights on. I kind of love that. You should have done that anyway. Like, let's just do it. I mean, we do that driving to the grocery store. That's just how we drive. Yeah. I don't hang out with you guys more. I like it. All right. So we do need... I've been thinking about you, Oscar. And yesterday you were... Uh-oh. His face just completely... You were very vulnerable with us and you had said that you had been duff. Annie, please explain to the listeners what it does. That is a designated ugly fat friend. Okay. Oscar called himself this. I've been sulting the wound. No, no, no. You call yourself this? No, this is just what it's called. I don't think you were duffed. And how did you determine that you were duffed? Like you sort of dawned on you in a moment. What was that moment? I thought you were like... I thought I was duffed. I'm a duffed. When she started asking me about my friend. Oh. And so... Oscar was on a date and he thought he was on a date with this woman, but she was using him to get to his friend. I don't think it was a date. I don't think it was ever a date. I think the problem is, and we're a little alike this way, is that we think everyone is attracted to us. Right? So we think everything is a date, but it's not. Because some people just want to be friends. I think that you're misreading social cues. Yeah, okay. I'm just a narcissist, but you're misreading, I think, social cues. Don't you agree? I don't know. If a woman that I was interested in asked me to go and have... What was it? Lunch? Coffee? What was it? It was dinner. It was dinner. Wow. What did Jeff? No way. That feels to me like... She has to be alone? I think if we look at the text, I think we're all going to know it was Plagonic. Can we pull those up, please? Yes, please. Do you have the text? They're all gone. I got rid of her. I shed all skin from 2025 heading into 2026. Screw her. So that really hurt. Were you guys not friendly? Yeah. That was... Thanks, Annie. I didn't see the friend. I kind of wanted to help us. Body-oddy-oddy. Your friend's like... Your friend's hot. I want to say it. She's a kid. It's so cute. That couldn't have felt great. No, it wasn't. Did you give her information about your friend? No. And he has a girlfriend or so? I don't understand. How did you meet this girl? How did you meet this girl? All high school. Oh, so it's a high school friend? Yeah. Okay, so you were friends. Yeah. She wanted to get together to catch up. Yeah. And while she was there... All together. Hey, you're going to get a girlfriend? Yeah. And while she was there... Also, I'm curious about your friend. Yeah. Who I'm attracted to. But when was the last time you saw her before? Graduation when I confessed that I liked her throughout high school. Okay, so... Wait, how old are you? It's been ten years. Man, years. This is like... How old are you? This is like a script that's being like, like revealed step by step. It's literally your Christmas thing that you did. Yeah, I think it... I think I made this movie. Let's make it a whole movie. The exact plot. Did I make this movie? Is this another sweet Christmas? Yeah, this is like another... How many Christmas movies have you done? 75. No. I've done probably 20, 21. Holy shit. I know. I've done two. Yeah. Well, I bet you... And they killed you off, right? They killed me off. I die on all of them. You know, it takes a lot... It's only in Die Hard and your Christmas movies where somebody gets killed off. So that's impressive. You know what's the... Actually, the hardest part is bringing my kids to set and them seeing Santa and me like having to explain what the fuck is going on. Oh, man. Because they're so little and I'm like, I tell that actor. I'm like, you better have gifts today. There better be gifts in that bag. It's funny you say that. I have small children coming here and you are not going to blow this for them, but I needed to take this movie to pay our mortgage. I was at the Grove and there was Santa there and I told Monroe, I'm like, you know, that's not the real Santa, right? Right. Like that's not the real Santa. The real Santa is busy. Yeah. Right. Really making stuff happen right now. And she's fine with that. He's on crunch time right now. Yeah. Yeah. She got it. She's like, okay, yeah. Does she still believe? Yeah. I think this might be the last show. But I think that's where my question of my son, who's eight being like, come on, I think it's you and daddy. And I'm like, no, I mean, I like lot. I mean, it's, I know it's a very bizarre life is a person here. Here's a dilemma that I have my kids are older, right? So when my son, my son was kind of like the last of his friends that still believed in Santa and we kind of kept it. We did unbelievable. It was like our house in Colorado. I'd get up on the roof and jump on the roof and the kids would run like we went to great lengths hiding in the bushes with a red light for Rudolph, like all sorts of things. sorts of things. So they really kind of were in it. Wow, you committed. No, no, I told you, Mr. Christmas. But, um... 21 Christmas is over here. But, here's the thing, is at one point, I started thinking to myself, I might be, like at this point now, do I bring him in? Like, do I kind of, like, all his friends know, he doesn't know, so I made the very tough decision. You just told him? No. Ah! You just told him? I did. And what did he, did he, is he okay? I don't think it went great. Like, I think it was, in other words, I kind of regret, I think I kind of, I regret it. Like... And he loves you. He came back years later saying, thank you, I'm glad you did that. But, I think in the moment, he was like... Yeah, wrecked. You know, I know very famous actors that I'm not going to name names, but they have a pretty strict policy on like, we don't lie to our, like they never have done Santa or the Tooth Fairy or anything, because they're just like, I want to set up that I don't lie to my children. And I'm just like, oh God, I don't know what, I mean, any of us know what the fuck we're doing. I mean, this is all impossible. Yeah, but Santa's different. I said to her, I believe in Santa. Right. It's not really a lie. Yes, and when my son did ask us me and daddy, I said, I believe. I said something like that too. I said that, which makes... You know who could come up with a good excuse? Sirius XM. We should ask them, what should we tell our kids? Cause they've clearly come up with a lot of bullshit. They sure do. Jeff Goldloos. Gmail Santa.claw. Yeah. Who's in Atlanta. I just want to point one thing out too, Oscar's so happy we got sidetracked. Oh yeah, sorry. Oscar's back on the docks. Here's the thing Oscar still believes in Santa. Which I think is so cute, Oscar. Oscar. Wait, that was so... That's where he gets all the spunkle pops, right? From Santa. What's wrong with having an imagination? Now, how long did it take for Cameron to tell you, Katie, when you met him this morning, that his house burned down? I didn't even know that. How do you not know? Really? I'm progressing. You see, I'm getting better. Like I'm improving. I'm getting better. So this is a post, this is a very recent post from Cameron Matheson. If you don't know, my house burned down. I lost all my Christmas ornaments in the fires. We lost so many... Did that go like that? We lost so many ornaments that were so special to us. That is paraphrasing A and B. It is a direct quote. No, that's a paraphrase. For sure. I started off saying thank. No, I was gifted a whole bunch of things to replace a lot of my Christmas decorations. And so I was thanking a company that did that and in doing so, talking about all these great new ornaments that I'm getting. Can we just promote the ornaments without bringing up the fire again? And I don't wanna throw you into the best can, but in my notes here. So Kean put the thing, he goes, we know Cameron. It's actually helpful for me to hear this. It's actually helpful for me to hear this. I don't wanna be that guy. If that's how it's coming off, that's not gonna happen. It hasn't even been a year. It's okay. So what happens? At a year does he stop? No, he's supposed to have his process, whatever that is. I don't know. Wait, where did you live? And then I come here. Am I bringing this up? And then I come here and then I get annihilated by you guys not knowing. That's my process. You're just thanking people for giving you free ornaments, which is really nice. Do we wanna say that company right here right now? The apartment looks nice, by the way. Balsam Hill, oh thanks. Where is the apartment? In Silverlake. Not too far from here, but 15 minutes from here. What street? Hyperion. Nice. Oh, that's a nice one. What block? Yeah. What's the cross streets? Yeah, I see you. What's the unit number? I see you. Wait, was your house, where was your house? In Altadena, up in the mountains, yeah. It was a great spot. Should we talk a little bit about it? It was a great house, actually. How much time do we have? You went to his house? No, but I've seen pictures before it burned. It was a beautiful home. A lot of... Incredibly, it was a special home. It was like a passion project. So much original detail. When was it built before? 1928 Spanish... Oh, yeah. You can't... Oh, no. Sorry, Cameron. You can't replace something like that. With all those details, they just don't make houses like that anymore. Oh, damn. In a world of noise and uncertainty... IG is the investment platform that backs you. Take a reflexable stocks, Issa, which gives you the freedom to withdraw funds anytime and replace them in the same tax year, all without losing your £20,000 tax-free allowance. And if that's not enough, pay no commission on your stocks, shares and ETFs when you invest with IG. IG. Trade. Invest. Progress. 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No. Oh, God. Are you going? We made it to 9.35 before the big jerk-off sound cue. Well, you can thank me and my camping trips for that. Yes, I go camping sometimes alone just to get away up in the Angeles Crest Forest. Aren't you scared? Not at all. Not even remotely. If I saw or heard one animal, I absolutely not. I don't think he's alone. I think there's some weird kink going on in that forest. Oh. Yep. It's a gathering of people we just meet up in the forest. They're all strangers. We do forest weaving. We wear masks and we sing and dance around in the shade. Naked. Crazy things naked. Orgies. Other than that, it's totally weird. I think it's loud and I think it's messy. And I think they go way out to that forest where they can't be seen or recorded by Annie. Meanwhile, I'm like posting photos and videos. Yeah, but that's so that there's no trail. It's a cover. It's a cover. Sure. What's the other fact that you keep pointing out that I would be a very good serial killer? Mm-hmm. I think that would be really convincing. No one goes out to the forest by themselves. He thinks like, oh, hey. There's a twink in the trunk. Hey, you're burying some shit. That's what it is. You're burying a body. That's great. I would never go to the forest by myself. Like, no way. I don't go to them all by myself. I'm not doing anything. I'm about to drive 12 hours to Colorado by myself and I can't wait. This sounds like a broke back mountain situation. Oh. I'm alone. I'm literally alone. How is that? I mean, that's what's going on. I wish I knew how to quit you. That's way better, Ennis. Maybe he goes to the same camp. You know what I'm going to do now? And Letterman's dad goes to. I'm going to live Instagram my 12 hour journey to Colorado. Please do. So you know. So you can tell. I said we don't want to see that. Have you ever had anything scary happen when you're out there? Like a bear? Yeah, there's been bears and stuff, but they don't come at you. Nothing scary. One time a mountain line was sort of walking. Nope. Yeah. One time. She's out. Katie's out. It looked like a cat in the distance and sort of the fog. It was walking closer and I was like, wow, that's a big tail. And then it came closer and came out of the fog. And I was like, I thought it was a bobcat. Yeah. At first. And I was like, oh, that's a big bobcat. And I was like, oh my god, that's not a bobcat. And I got in my car and just let it pass. It was a mountain line. But here's the thing though. If Cameron asked you to go camp, you'd go. No. You wouldn't? No. What if I asked you to go, well, I mean, if circumstances were different and your husband wouldn't be offended by that? It was not alive. If your husband was not alive. If your husband was low. Not on whatever. What if glamping? Like a cabin? I've done that. I've done that. It's like fine. I'd still like rather a hotel. I mean, I do a lot of woodsy stuff. I just do it in lake houses and cabins and things like that. I'm into all that. That's not camping. Yeah, no. I don't camp. I don't camp. When I moved to LA, an ex-boyfriend of mine, we moved down to LA together and camped out down like the PCH from Seattle. That's the last and only time I've done it since I was a child. What were some of you hated over? Oh, it was freezing. I was on a ground. It was not romantic. Well, I would take much better care of you, first of all. I have an amazing. Whoa! Yeah, you would. People are losing their minds in this room. You know what I mean. I mean, I have a really, really good, like, thick mattress. I have like, I bring a duvet. I like to pull it out. It's like full-on glamping. It's car camping. It's not like you're just. He'll take care of you, Katie. And when Cameron came in this morning, Katie, I didn't need to be in the car. Oh, I don't care. But you're very sweet. And I'm sure it's been a wonderful song. Adam, I know. Adam, that's not what I meant. Adam and I, we've wanted to, like, take our kids in, like, a sprinter van situation. Yeah, that's fun. You know, like, our friend has a pop-up sprinter van. Maybe someday we'll get around that. Jeff Lewis' face is literally so crinkled. Have you ever done that with Monroe? Fuck no. She doesn't like nature. She doesn't care. No. And Jeff doesn't like nature either. No, I don't mind. I liked, if I, like, say what to use, Semidy, I'd want to stay, like, probably at the Iwani, like, a nice hotel. Hike during the day, do all that stuff. But then get dressed for dinner and have a really nice, like, martini steak caviar Caesar salad. I think I'm with you. I think I'm carrot cake second martini full-body cab. And a massage. So similar. Like, city on Peacock. So similar to my experience. Yes, yes. That's the kind of kind of thing. I always, I was, I also, I'm not camping. And I'm always like, please God send me a man who doesn't like camping. And they did. So, but isn't it kind of a pain in the ass to get it all together, put it all in the car? To be 100% honest? Like, absolutely. It's a massive pain in the ass. But you love something. And sometimes it feels like it's not worth it, but there's moments in there where your nature, you're looking up, you fall asleep, the stars, like, it's really nice. And then you have to pack everything up and go back home. And you're like, was that worth it? But it's a pain. Follow question. So animals, but what also about, like, human psychopaths? Oh yeah, that's a concern. Yeah, I've driven around, like, some campsites. And you're like, these people are scary. I don't think I'm the target though. Sorry, sorry, sorry. No offense to people who camp. Do you know what I mean? Shout out campers. Shout out campers. I'm not a target for those. Like, I'm a 6'2", 200 pound guy. Like, I don't think that that's like, I don't think I'm the guy they're going after, right? Right. I hope. They're going after me and Jameson. Yeah. Unless it's a gay serial killer. And they're out there. Shout out. Gay stuff. Gay stuff. I think so. Yeah, and they do what they want with you against the tree. I think you should take Jeff. Oh, about Jeff. You should take Jeff. If we went camping. Jeff, go. You broke my lab. I would go with Cameron. Can you please go so we can hear about it on the show? Can you imagine? I would love it. That would give you amazing. He would never speak to me again. Where do you poop? Sorry. Oh yeah, that's a good question. I'm so sorry, but like, where do you poop and pee and all that? Well, like, the places I go are campgrounds that have bathrooms. OK. But sometimes you just got to. In a hole? You just bring toilet paper and you just squat. I probably won't go the whole weekend. Yeah, that sounds. Yeah, I wouldn't either. Yeah, I'm not going to be able to. But there's like, yeah. I'm not going to be able to. You can find campgrounds with bathrooms. OK. What are the bathrooms like? Right. Jeff, I think you should go. On Christmas Day, the one day you take off. This is what you should be doing with your time. Merry Christmas to you, Jeff. This is what I got you for Christmas. Does General Hospital send you a nice holiday gift? They sent a card saying they made a donation on my behalf. You know, one of those bullshit gifts. That's yeah. They used to. We used to ABC used to give like real gifts. They've real gifts. Well, that kind of slipped out. But yeah, they used to not anymore. Are you on it now? I am. Yeah. Oh, wow. Do you have to do like 80 pages a day? I had 87 pages of dialogue on Monday. Oh, because I was away. As you guys know, I was away for three weeks working on a Christmas movie. And I came back and all my scenes were kind of condensed into a few days. And Monday in particular. And that's the record. 87 pages of my own scenes and dialogue in one day. I was in every scene the whole day and I was jet. Like I got back from Budapest Sunday night. I love it there. And then on Monday morning, I went and did 87 pages the next day. And I was. Whoa. Did you take Celsius? I didn't, but I just drank a lot of coffee. And I did NAD. You know, me and my peptides. I did a lot of. Yeah. Oh, I've been hearing about these this right and left. Like this week. The peptide. Was it from you guys? We probably. That's where I first heard about it. Place downstairs does it. I think it's going to be real convenient. Oh, that's great. You got right next door. What's the name of it? Pause. Oh, I love pause. You've been to pause? Many a time. I can get you a hookup there. Have you ever gone? No. But it's right there. I can park on P4. I love it. And I've gone for like girls. I've gone for birthdays. I've gone by myself. I've gone on an amazing date night with Adam, where we do pause for two hours and we get dressed there. And then we go across the street to GGs for a delicious dinner. It's a great date. And pause is what is it? Like I go to cry. First I'll do the cry. Oh, gosh, you're gosh, you're OK. Then I do the sauna. No, the deprivation tank that you're just floating in a magnesium bubble that has no light, no sound. And it's just black. I took the greatest nap of my life. Oh, I don't know about that. Then you do the contrast therapy where you're jumping from the sauna into a freezing cold plunge. And you can do that in a room with that fits more than one person, which is what Adam and I were doing. And you plug in your iPod and it's great iPod. That's like 100,000 years old. I'm sorry. Your walkman. Yeah, my walkman. And we did that. And then I got ready in the bathroom there like cutesy. And then we walked across the street and had dinner. It was so wonderful. I'm just looking for just the NAD drip. But thank you for the whole commercial. My life, pediatric dentistry. And pause. But do they do other things other than NAD? Like all the. They do. They do IVs. They do vitamin drips. But no, I mean, like other peptides, can they get you things? I already have the copper peptides coming from Asandra. Good. You got the copper peptide. And then how about the one for recovery and soft tissue and healing BPC 157? That's very popular. We write that shit down. In the world. It's really, really, really good. I'm talking about. Yeah. It's a crazy body. It's a no brainer peptide. Something's working. But it probably also works out though. You work out really hard though. I mean, I work out. Allison. Wait, what does this dog was meaning? No, I thought I was going to take the other one. The one word that was backing up Katie. That person's gone. There was a guy who dropped off. Yeah, but he was saying that he saw you fight for your life for that microphone instead of what? They've been a mess. Thank you so much for backing me up and being my witness to that insanity. You're you're badass. That's a wish. I had that on video. When ABC flew you from France to New York to be on the third hour of what is it? Good morning, America. So tell me about that flight. Were you indeed in La Premier or were you in first class? Or were you in La Premier? And it was it was great American family that flew me from Paris to New York. And they it was La Premier and not like. So here's the deal. Like it was so. And you I think you've done it, right? So you know, or you got my bucket list. So you show up at you show up at the airport and they're waiting for you, which you can have arranged anyway. But they're waiting for you and they take you in a whole different check in area. They take you through this whole. They take your pet. You don't do anything. Then they drive you to they drive you through the planes and stuff to a special, you know, waiting area lounge that's only for La Premier. And that's amazing. And it's very, very really beautiful, like way better than any lounge I've ever seen. And then after when it's time, they drive you right to the plane. They walk you right into your suite on the plane. Oh my God. I had this is this is how big it is. I had seven airplane windows long. No, seven windows long. I had a full bed, a desk, a chair. And the other thing I had an apartment. So there's four of those, right? So there's two on the two on the windows. And then there's two on the inside of the aisle that they're sort of matching. And because it's not very popular because it costs twenty one thousand dollars a direction. The the other one was empty. So they gave me both. So I literally had a room almost as big, I would say, from here over on the plane with beds and desks and four TVs. Like it was crazy. Well, each each suite has two TVs, depending on where if you're in the bed, you have a TV this way. If you're in the desk, you have a TV this way. Did you shower? I didn't shower. But you could. You could absolutely. How could you not have tried that? I did. Oh, it's not that long of a flight. Well, it was eight hours. I could have, you know, I wanted to get a little nap. I was on GMA early in the morning. I wanted to come like come and rest it. And did you have the duck lasagna? No, but I had duck. It wasn't lasagna. You had the duck lasagna. Why did you fly off from here? No, he was in business. Yeah, but you know, snuck a little. Did you drink? They have great wines. I did. I just had champagne. I know. I just had champagne. You guys, I'm I fly next to the toilets. It's just now there it is. There's so there's that's smaller than what I had, because that's what one, two. That's only five windows. One. There's five windows. So I had, for whatever reason, two more windows. Did you get a chance to watch your own movies? I didn't know. I don't watch my movies. I don't either. I don't. Yeah, no, but they were there. I just kind of picture Katie like walking down. Oh, you're watching Hunting Wives. I'm chill. That's me. Would you like to picture? I am hiding with my children and my wonderful husband next to the toilets in the back row that I mean, we. I don't believe it. Swear to you. You're not. Well, when you're traveling as a family, it's expensive to. But I mean, obviously for when I'm flying for work, someone else is paying for his class. That's why we're how I do it. But in Union wise, they have to fly business. Yes. Oh, no, no. I actually usually argue against that. Why usually in my contract, because I've always traveled with my family. And so if they're going to give me two business class tickets, I go, OK, I'm going to send those back. Can I get four economy? And can I take my kids? Guys, I fucking wheel and deal to take my family with me. I mean, it's hell, but I rather be with them and I don't know what I'm doing. But I'm sure Netflix sent you a great gift right holiday gift. Nope. Oh, a nope. What is serious exam get you? And not an invite to their party. I'm oh, no, that's not from serious exam. That's from Andy. That's a nice color on you. But you got a hoodie. You know what I get? Oh, I got it. Oh, I got that. Oh, yeah, that was nice. Oh, what was that? Who makes that? Oh, Reigns. Oh, that's a great. That's a great company. It made a nice re-gift. Yeah, for sure. Like we need those. That's so great. Was it Monogram? Was it in Boston? It had the S. Oh, Jeff Dot Lewis. I don't think I would get it. They made two of them. I don't think I would get a Netflix gift because Jill died. I'm literally sitting here thinking, why did I not get a Netflix gift? Yeah, that's right. It's interesting too, because I heard that in the book, Jill is the actual murderer. But then in the TV series, they killed her off. And we can't stand how strange that they deviated from the Jeff Lewis for the five millionth time. When I auditioned for the role, she was always going to die. There is nothing I did. There was no diva behavior. You can ask anybody else on the show. That's just how Rebecca Cutter changed it from the book. I can't imagine you would have any diva behavior ever. No, especially Flynn. Coaxed back by the bathroom. Mike's variance with her is that she's very professional. Yes, very professional. Punctual, did her job, didn't get drunk. I can't believe that people are late. No, I would not get drunk. I mean, invite me again. We'll see what happens. But you were good. You had two drinks the entire night. You nursed that for five hours. If you had some backup out there in the madness, then you could have a drink and relax a little bit. Like, it wasn't only you in charge of all that. Yes. And I also just felt out of my element. I was like, oh, this would be it. I would be stupid. Also, I wasn't like on my own. I had to rely on them to get me to and from Brea, which I don't know where that is. You still don't know where it is. I haven't even looked at a map. I don't, but I don't know the other words you're saying. Did American family send you a nice gift? I bet they did. If they fly you late premiere. Yeah, they usually send a really nice gift. I don't think I've got it yet, but they always do. It's like a car or something. Give an example. Give an example. I mean, I've gotten a money clip, like a Tiffany money clip. I've gotten things like that. Thoughtful. Those are thoughtful gifts. Like engraved. I've got a really, really nice passport holder engraved. Oh, yeah. Things like that. That would have been nice, too. Well, we also get different gifts than Jeff gets. So talent gets better or more. I would imagine more expensive gifts than. What'd you get again? I didn't get anything. So that was more expensive than a winter festival. Well, you got invited to the party. I got invited to a festival. And you got two free drink tickets, which I did not get. Well, I know it was not a convenient time to go to a festival. OK, but he also, there was a very important event, which we can talk about when we come back. Very important event. DeBarbara had their two-year anniversary. And Jameson was invited. It was a coveted invite. And he said it was unavailable. And on our way to DeBarbara, we saw him jogging in front of Trader Joe's. And so I called him out. And the sad part about this is Barbara put together a beautiful Christmas gift for Jameson and sent it home. It's very sweet of her. I love New York. You didn't invite me. I'm going in Christmas. It's my favorite city in the world. Really? It's my hometown. Yeah, my mother talks like this. I'm fucking New York. I didn't realize you're from New York. But I've also never asked. Well, yeah. You're a selfish narcissist. But I love you. You know you're very hardworking. Yeah, from New York. I wish. Where do you stay? Where do you stay when you go? And where do you record when you're there? Seriously, some headquarters. Seriously, Santa's. I've been there. I've been there. OK, good. So Christmas Day, are you celebrating it in New York with Monroe? Yes. Like, is that where Santa comes? No, Santa's coming to our house on Wednesday night. And then we'll open gifts Thursday morning, and then we go to the airport. And then we fly to New York. It's very long. Is it? That's really cute. And then where do you stay? Like, the plaza? And she gets to just be like. We're staying in a nice hotel that's very Christmas-y holiday festive. Do you stay there? I'm staying at a different hotel. But he's not as happy because he's in a, it's not as nice of a hotel. No, I'm in a good hotel. But you've got the club room. I do have my social club floor. And also New York is insane. Even like mediocre hotels are $700 a night. And you're staying longer though too, right? Like you're making a move. And Christmas must be. No, I'm doing the exact same. Oh, you are. I thought you had more time off. No, I'm going home to my parents in Washington. Got you. Tuesday, Wednesday. And I'm flying on Thursday. Are we promoting another sweet Christmas? No, that's the one you just filmed. No, we just filmed a sweet Christmas anniversary, which is coming out next year. But right now, in streaming, is another sweet Christmas. Thanks for bringing it up, Jeff. Where do we find it? And then there's one that's previous. Yeah, Great American Family in Pure Flix streaming. Either a Great American Family, which is cable. And then you can stream it on Pure Flix. OK, but you can also watch Home Sweet Christmas first before watching another sweet Christmas. And you can watch that anywhere. You can stream that everywhere. Yep. Just get crazy. I'm going to watch it on the plane. Me too. Yep. I'll send you the link so you don't miss it. Also, you'll be camping with him, Jeff. Yeah. Well, I want to talk to you about that, because I think we could sell those on fan social. Correct. Camping trips with Cameron. You should do that. Yep. That sounds like a. 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