Re-Evaluating the Packers' WR Room!!!

20 minutes a day. 365 days a year. This is the Pack a Day podcast. Hello Packer fans and welcome back into the Sunday edition of a Pack a Day podcast wherever you may be and however you may be listening. Thank you for joining us. I'm going to start with a question. Is my favorite co-host of all time, Jacob Wessendorf. Jacob, filling in for Jimmy Christensen because Jimmy decided that he'd rather spend time with his family this weekend than talking to me. No, did he? I don't know. That's rare. I don't know. He sent me a text. He goes, hey, you're going to hate me. And I was like, too late. I was like, well, you can just stop it there. Like you don't need to put like a, you know, you don't need to finish that sentence, you know? I said, you're going to hate me. But no, I don't know. Jimmy's got some stuff going on this weekend so Jacob very kind enough to fill in for Jimmy as always. I do want to say though, the last time I, you know, I told Jimmy about our conversation we had the last time you filled in which is that, you know, you know, that he's, he's got a lot to owe for the amount of times you've filled in and his response to me was he can say no, right? I was like, I was like, well, fair, fair point. Can I? Can I? Well, yeah, it's fair. But but yeah, so Jacob, it's been a couple of months, I feel like since we've last chatted. And we actually have some Packard news this weekend. I will say a little bit somewhat surprised, maybe I don't know. I don't overly love it from just like a personal fan standpoint. But the Packers traded wide receiver Don Tavion Wicks on Friday afternoon to the Philadelphia Eagles. Don't really like that they traded them to the Eagles. But I suppose if you were looking to trade them and you've got a trade partner, you trade with whosoever willing to give you stuff that you're looking for, for the most part anyway, division rivals aside. But a 26 fifth round pick and a 27 sixth round pick. So I guess Jacob thoughts on the trade. You know, I know from listening to Andy earlier this offseason, it's not it doesn't sound like a huge surprise because I believe in one of the episodes Andy was discussing that this was a potential move that could have been made. Because more than likely at the end of this coming season, the 26 season, either Wicks or Reed or potentially both just for salary cap reasons and contract reasons would not have been back. Right. And so this is a way to kind of get out in front of it. It leaves you with you know, your main wide receiver core now is Christian Watson, Jaden Reed, Matthew Golden, and Savion Williams, those are probably your top four guys now at this point. But surprise that the Packers traded Wicks. I mean, I guess, if you're looking to get something, if you were going to let him walk anyway, but he felt like a player who had great upside if he like I know he had what felt like a lot of upside and then his sophomore season, like he just couldn't catch the ball. Right, which obviously as a wide receiver pretty kind of like the thing, right? You can do everything else right but if you can't catch the football none of it matters. But I guess are you surprised that they traded them? A little. Just because I didn't think it was like immediately on the horizon, I thought if they traded a receiver, it would come like on draft day or like sometime during that time frame. My bold prediction on this show with Andy and Grant Bills was that the Packers would trade Jaden Reed this off season and granted I was going for bold but the idea is that you trade a receiver so coming into this week prior to the Wicks trade, the Packers had four receivers on an expiring contract this year. Christian Watson, Jaden Reed, Dante Vian Wicks and then Sky Moore but like it still counts right even if he's just a return man for your team. So Green Bay needs some long term contracts at that position because the only ones they have are Matthew Golden who you mentioned first round pick plenty of talent Savion Williams who's more project receiver and kind of a gadget player probably more so than your traditional wide receiver goes. I know that the discussion surrounding Christian Watson from myself included is that like giving him an extension should be a priority and I still do think that at the same time. The receiver market John Eric Sullivan, former Packers exec was talking about the trade of Jalen Wattle this past week and he said like there's no secrets. The receiver market's not going down. It's going up. So Christian Watson like you know, if every negotiation probably outside of the quarterback has to have like a walk away point. Yes, we want this player but at what point does it become like? Yeah, we're not comfortable with that. And I don't know what that number is with Christian Watson. You know, the Alec Pierce deal is going to be the basis for what Watson's agent and everybody is going to use and that might be something that Green Bay is comfortable with but if it goes, you know above that what if we're talking 32, 33, $34 million annually as much as I love Watson as much as I do, you know, at some point, the number if you're going to pay a receiver like he's Justin Jefferson, there has to be the production that is like Justin Jefferson. I know there's counter arguments that say he doesn't get the targets like that. He doesn't get the volume of the you know, all that stuff. I understand that. I think there could be a reason for that. But you know, that's a different thought for a different day but that's kind of the reality is backers are getting out in front of it. Number two, I would not be surprised at all like one of the guys Green Bay brought in on a 30 visit was Ted Hurst, the receiver from Georgia State. And he's a top 75 player. According to like consensus, he's you know, very well thought of across the league. He's a guy that Dane Brugler is rated highly in his draft guide. So that's somebody who I would be surprised if they took a receiver with their second round pick, I would not be stunned. And if they took one with a third round pick, I'd probably just kind of nod and go like, Okay, that makes sense. Like that's what they're trying to do is get out of the packers. They always tell you the draft is a long term process, like a long, or a long term exercise. So that's why they're picking a player for, you know, cheaper contracts for a longer term value. So that's something where you get into the soft season now. I just mentioned Watson, mentioned Watson, but read is another one, where are they going to draw a line in the sand with him? Okay, well, now you're down to Watson and Matthew Golden for receivers that you kind of feel good about going into 2027. Like they probably want to get somebody stocked in that pipeline to develop as a developmental receiver, a secondary receiver, if you will, behind some of those guys as their first year could potentially make an impact as a rookie if there's injuries and stuff like that. And then you get into year two. Now it's like he could start, you know, across from a Watson or a reader, you know, whoever it is that they end up keeping on all of those things. But I mean, there's going to be some turnover in that room. That's, that is just how that works. If you ever feel like you have, you know, four or five guys that you feel really good about, eventually, a couple of them are going to get paid to go somewhere else. And you're just not going to be able to keep all those guys. And again, with the receiver market, exploding the way that it is. I've talked about this a bunch on this show too. But okay, Watson and Reed, cool. Tucker Kraft needs a contract. You want to do that. Edger and Cooper needs a contract here in the next two years, you probably want to do that. Devonte Wyatt, Lucas Van Ness, okay, maybe you're kind of lukewarm on those. But then we're talking to Evan Williams, Javon Bullard. Like there are a lot of guys coming up on and that doesn't even account for like Jordan Morgan could be a left tackle contract that they have to give out here in the coming years. Like there are a lot of potentially expensive contracts in the pipeline and the Packers, I mean, they have guys that they'll allow to leave and guys they won't keep it and just stuff like that too. But you know, eventually there does come a line in a salary cap sport, where you say like, Hey, we can't pay for literally every one. You can't have a market setting contract that literally every single position. At some point, they need that cheap labor for lack of a better term with Wix specifically. I'm reading some tea leaves here, but Matt LaFleur did say into a microphone that there were guys last year disgruntled with roles. And that affected their football team. I have never heard anything that suggests that that was Dantebion Wix. But I mean, again, there's four receivers on expiring contracts and they traded him. Like, there's some there, I'm not gonna say there's something to that there could be something to that idea as well. And Wix is one of those guys that like, if he is complaining in the locker room, he's an easy guy to move on from, you know, if Micah Parsons is complaining in the locker room, you try and figure out how to keep the piece and make him happy. Right? If it's Dantebion Wix, or, you know, I use the example earlier in the year with with Andy Herman and went because when we were talking to Andy, it was the match diamond had asked Kisha Nixon, are you going to ask for a new contract? And Nixon was kind of like maybe. And it was like, if Nixon is somebody who holds out, then easy trade easy cut, like and I'm somebody who doesn't think Kisha Nixon is the worst player in the NFL like some people do. But that's the type of like, what's the phrase from Andrew Brent? Like talent gives more tolerance, basically, like, it's not apples to apples to apples here. But like, the reason that Deshaun Watson got the contract that he did is because he was good at quarterback, prior to the injury. And now he's not obviously, and that's instant karma and everything like that. Well, I mean, to even go with that, like, I know different organizations, but I mean, you look at AJ Brown in Philadelphia, like, I mean, he's been nothing but a headache for the last two seasons. And there's lots of different reasons, but he's very talented, right? If you if you if you want, yeah, if those guys were a brandy Moss even comes to mind, right? Like they were, they were headaches. But the talent was there to the point where it's like, All right, we got to figure it out in some way, shape or form for at least as long as you can. Aaron Rodgers. Yeah. Aaron Rodgers, like that to me is the probably the perfect example in Green Bay for recent memory. Like Rodgers, the juice was worth the squeeze. He wins the League MVP. He says he doesn't want to come back. You do everything you can to make sure that he tries to come back. He wins the League MVP again. Like that was the discussion I think we may have even had it when when they traded for Randall Cobb. And people started, some people started getting upset about it and saying like, Oh my God, why would you like do this or whatever? It's like, it's a six round pick. That's worth it for the price of getting the League MVP back on a team who is trying to win a championship tomorrow. Right? And Randall Cobb was I mean, by that point, he was maybe he was a little bit over the hill, but it's not like he was bad. He was not a bad player. No, and he didn't do anything like it wasn't like the next Randall Cobb, if you will, was waiting in the wings. And like the Packers played Randall Cobb. And then he got cut because he couldn't well, he also stunk at football. That's the problem with that. Like if Randall Cobb to point out like, Okay, let me let me use a different example. Like if if Randall Cobb was in 2011, sitting on the bench because, you know, 2017, Jordy Nelson was brought back to the Packers, then you're doing that to the detriment of the team, right? Randall Cobb was not acquired and worked into the lineup to the detriment of the team. The point that I'm getting at with everything is the juice has to be worth the squeeze, which is why it's incredible to me that the Pittsburgh Steelers, one of the proudest franchises in the NFL. Aaron Rodgers was fine last like fine last year. And they're April 11. Pittsburgh doesn't know who their starting quarterback is. With a new head coach with like plans, your man, like, are you doing stuff? And not only that, if Rodgers is coming back, like, that alters your team strategy, you're trying to win immediately if Rodgers comes back. If he doesn't, then you're kind of in rebuild mode. It changes everything. It's incredible to me that that's the case with Wix, the point I'm getting at a long winded way of saying the juice has got to be worth the squeeze. And if he's the one squawking, and I don't know that he was, but if he was, that's just a reason to move on and the fact that they got another fifth round pick this year and a pick next year that, you know, if they're not going to pay him, like getting a sixth round pick is like guaranteeing a defense story pick that you might have canceled out by signing a free agent next, you know, next, what winter anyways. So I'm, I have no problem with it. It seemed to me that like, and everybody who wants to Matthew Golden needs more opportunities. Make Matthew Golden into a make a wish kid for some reason. But Matthew Golden needs more opportunities. It's like, but also keep Dobs and Wix. Those two things don't, those two things don't work hand in hand. Like, you have to get rid of people to put people on the field. Yeah, they can't play a lineup as much as the internet and Twitter would love it. You can't play a formation with one quarterback and 10 receivers. Shout out, Jake Moorland. Well, you know, maybe in like, well, never mind. But anyway, yeah, so I mean, certainly if you are a Matthew Golden person, right, this is, this is probably good news for him, right? I mean, he again, you're three starting your three top receivers this year are now Christian Watson, Jaden Reed, and Matthew Golden. Now, what do you think that this means for? I mean, it feels like the Christian Watson extension is just one of those things that it feels almost inevitable. Like, they're going to get it done at some point more than likely, I would say it's more likely than not that they get a, you know, a deal done with him. Again, not that it's a for sure thing, but it feels like it. What do you think this means for Jaden Reed, if anything, right? You know, because Green Bay was in this a similar situation. What in 21 was it? Were like, I think they had one receiver under contract for the 22 season. Something like Adams and Balda scantling and I think Luzard had one year left, but Cobb was a free agent or something like that. Yeah. And so we've kind of gone through this before a little bit, but do you think Green Bay is I guess, does do you think Jaden Reed gets a contract before the season or or is Green Bay in the mode of, hey, we really don't kind of know what's going on. So we're going to let you play this out and we'll visit it at the end of the 26 season. We'll be right back. Yeah, so with Watson, I don't want to call it inevitable because I don't think anything is inevitable except for death and taxes and Aaron Judge and that's about it. But otherwise, I was trying to think of something way cooler to say than that, but I got nothing. But anyways, I don't want to call that inevitable because like I said, if his market keeps going up, like it could get to a point where Green Bay is just kind of like, we'll move on. Or we're not comfortable with that or you know, whatever, there's things that can happen. I don't think that happens. I think anytime I've been around the Packers to a man always speaks so highly of him. I think that he is somebody. I do kind of buy into the narrative of with more volume, he could be a 1200 yard receiver. You know, the Packers I'm not saying they got a force feed a guy a little bit, but I do think what a mat with four weaknesses is not he doesn't get the ball in the hands of his best players enough. Or at least he hasn't since Jordan Love took over as the starting quarterback. So I don't know about that with Jaden Reed. I've kind of been on the train. I know Tom Silverstein reported the Packers would make a run at resigning him. So that was encouraging. If you want to keep reading Green Bay obviously spoons one of the best and plugged in in that way. The thing about read, he's small. And Matlaflour likes bigger receivers who can block the run game. And the other thing is like, are you going to then if they signed Jaden Reed, they are committing to a while in theory if they signed read and Watson, I should say they are committing to a receiver trio of Watson and two small guys Matthew Golden, and Jaden Reed. Yeah, Matthew Golden and Jaden Reed are both 511. Jaden Reed is 187 pounds and Matthew Golden is 191 pounds. And Christian Watson for the comparison is 64 and 208 pounds. And I bet 208 might be closer to like 220 now, just not because he's eating cheeseburgers all off season, but like he very impressive physical specimen. Well, and then and then Savion Williams, the other receiver in this mix, he's 6422 pounds. Right. And again, I don't I don't know what their long term plan is with him. But with read, like if that is the case, the Matlaflour has to change the way that he is called and designed offense because you're not giving Jaden Reed a top tier receiver market to keep him in Green Bay to play him 40% of snaps, like that's a misuse of resources. So to me, if read can have a season because when read the other side of that argument, of course, is that when Reed has been healthy, which he wasn't last year, but when he was the first two years, he was their leading receiver. Like there is something to that. Now, I don't, I think he's a little overrated. And I don't like using that word. But in the mind of Packer fans, I think he's a little overrated. You know, for all the flack that Wix and Kristen Watson, for example, get for dropping the ball, the biggest drop that happened last season bounced off the hands of Jaden Reed. Correct. And he was the year before just as bad as Wix in terms of like drop percentage and stuff like Jacob Orley's had those numbers a bunch throughout the year. So I don't think it's a slam dunk that read gets a contract I would not be surprised if they draft a receiver that should be bells and whistles signals of like one of reader Watson is probably moving on. And my guess is it would probably be read because they can plug golden. I don't know why I think golden is a slot receiver, but they couldn't theory move him there. And then have your receiver you draft along with Watson be your bound primary boundary receivers in 11 personnel. So I'm interested to see what they do. But I'm not going to be surprised at all if Jaden Reed becomes somebody that he could still get traded on draft weekend, or something to you know, before trading camp or something like that to like, they could draft a receiver love what he did in OTAs and decide, you know what, we're not going to pay Jaden. So we're just going to get out in front of it. You know, and they may have done that earlier this offseason if Reed didn't come off like a healthy season, because last year he played like five games, you know, it wasn't a lot didn't play a time master because he had the foot injury and collarbone injury. So that knocked him out for most of the year, which probably tanked his value, understandably. So so I don't think it's a given he gets a contract. I don't think it should be a given that he gets a contract. I think that some of that iron sharpens iron like this competition, and playing for your life, if you will, to use that euphemism is something that I think this Packers team needs to be a little uncomfortable. And they need to get to get better with being uncomfortable because they lost five games in a row and last season, like I'm not saying anything you guys don't already know, but when you lose five games in a row and last season, like Brian Good, considered his press conference, everything's on the table. Now, he doesn't mean that because they're not trading Jordan love, they're not getting rid of Parsons, they're not doing any of that stuff, but everything should be on the table. And that includes stuff like that. So So last question I want to ask you before we wrap up here. You know, so the receiver room, I don't want to say it's getting thin, but it was a position that when you looked at it on paper going into last season, you're like, Oh, there's an abundance of players here, right? You felt really good about your wide receiver room. It felt like there was almost too much receiver to go around, right? And now Dobbs is gone. Wix is now gone. And you've got two receivers that you maybe like to keep right for the long term provided the numbers are right in Watson and Reed. But looking at Christian Watson specifically, given that that receiver room has thinned out a little bit more now. Who do you think in your in your mind, who is more important that they get a contract to Christian Watson or Tucker Kraft? Christian Watson. And and that's not even it's funny you asked that because I wrote a story on this back in March. And it's not saying that I think Watson is a better player at his position and craft is it his or anything like that? Because I don't believe that is proven to be the case during their time in Green Bay, at least. But for the reasons that I mentioned earlier, Tucker Kraft's contract, it's going to be expensive. It's not going to be $30 million a season expensive. And, you know, from roster scarcity standpoint, the answer probably is craft just because we saw last year, like, Musgrave, probably not going to happen here. Like if he becomes a productive NFL player, it's probably not going to be in Green Bay. Josh Wiley is a role player, John Fitzpatrick, Torz Achilles is career when you're a player like a fringe roster player like that is in question, right? So I think that Watson is the answer but like the answer to me also has to be I think for the long term future is you have to sign both of those guys. They compliment each other so well, you know, think of it like the the concept that we had in our brain. When AJ Dillon was drafted and Aaron Jones was the starter. It was like Aaron Jones and AJ as your classic complimentary thunder and lightning if you are David Montgomery and Jameer Gibbs slash and dash, you know, whatever. Whatever phrasing you want to use Watson and craft are perfect complementary pieces to each other in that way because craft wants to work the intermediate parts of the field to make plays after the balls in his hands. Watson has a gravitational pull toward him and opens up everything else down the field. So to me, again, in theory, between him, and then you add golden speed and everything like that. And like this offense, there is some tantalizing possibilities for what Green Bay is building. But I think Watson is like the biggest piece to making sure all of that goes even if the biggest impacts that he makes in certain games are not necessarily on the statue. Yeah, you know, and I don't know if how much this has changed, but I think it was I want to say it was Aaron Nagler pointed this out and I want to say he he pointed it out. It came very shortly after Christian Watson tore his ACL against the bears that like the point differential for the Packers offense when he was on the field versus off the field is like five and a half points. And if that number is correct, like, that is something that, again, it may not show up in the stat sheet. But like, if it's not showing up in the stat sheet, and that's the point differential for when he's on the field versus off the field, it means he's doing a hell of a lot to a defense to And one game all season this year where Watson craft, Dobbs and Jacobs gold into a lesser effect, but like all those guys around the field. And it was Pittsburgh and Jordan love set the or tied the franchise record for most completions in a row in the game and they tore apart the Steelers defense. So I think that answers a lot of what you're trying to say. And like the impact numbers are there, I'd have to grab what I had from my story for the exact numbers on that. But I mean, every year there's some story that comes out where it's like, yeah, Christian Watson's impact on this offense is this. And this does this and that does that and this leads to that and everything like that. So again, it's not always like the concrete 110 catches and 15. I mean, he's not Jamar Chase. You know what I mean? But like, there's one Jamar chase in the world. And I mean, it bangles having played in the playoffs a lot the last couple seasons either. So, you know, that's something worth pointing out and putting together too. So I think that's something the Packers are going to try and be careful and make sure it quote unquote makes sense. But I mean, there's no question the impact he has on this offense and they all know that. We'll be right back. Yeah, for sure. Well, it'll be interesting to see what Green Bay does now in the draft. You just even a little bit more. Again, I don't I don't I don't want to say you don't want to call the wide receiver position a position of need for the Packers right now like you maybe would corner. It's a long term need. It's not an immediate. Yeah, it's not an immediate need. But it'll just be interesting to see what if anything that does to the Packers draft decision making in a couple of weeks here now that they are now down Romeo Dobbs and Dontevian Wicks moving forward into next season. So definitely something to keep an eye on. I guess the other real quick question for you, Jacob. Again, I mentioned at the beginning of the show, right? If you're looking to trade somebody, ultimately, you know, somebody's got to be willing to dance with you in order to make a trade, right? The Eagles were the team to to make that deal. Do you have any sort of feeling with him being traded to the Eagles? And do you think the compensation was good, fair, not great? Like, how do you feel about the team you was traded to and the compensation overall for him? Yeah, I'm not going to eliminate half the league when I'm trying to trade. I mean, if I'm trying to trade like, like a Parsons, then sure, I'm probably trading into the AFC year. If the offers are comparable, you know, like if the AFC teams offering me a one and a two, but the NFC team is offering me two ones, I'll trade him to the NFC team. Like you have to take the best offer maybe with the exceptions being division rivals, just because you don't want to play against that guy twice a year, whoever that is. With Wicks, though, I mean, the Eagles need help at receiver. I don't think AJ Brown is long for Philadelphia for anybody who's followed that situation. That's a different story for a different day. I almost said something really mean, but anyways, with with the compensation, like, it was a it was the pick of the same round that they drafted him in plus another pick next year as a sixth round pick. I mean, I don't know what people thought the Packers were going to get for for Dante, I wicks like I mean, he does some good, there's no question, there's some talents at Dante on Wicks like the the Eagles gave him a contract extension immediately. Immediately is a strong term, but like his best season came as a rookie in terms of yardage, you had 581 yards receiving on 39 catches. But that was an offense that was done a little different. He was a rookie Green Bay threw the ball a bunch down the stretch of the year, everything like that. But he's kind of never really gotten better from that. He's coming off a year we had 30 catches. And 332 yards, like just not. It's not like they traded a thousand yard receiver, you know, at some point, if a team's trading for him, you have to get what you can get. And I know like somebody pointed out the idea of like, could they have done a Colby Wood and Xyre Franklin level swap? Maybe. But like, I don't know what you think you're going to get like, if you're doing that with Philadelphia, just for example, sake, I mean, it's not like they're swapping you Cooper Eugene or Quinne on Mitchell for, for Don Teve on Wix. So I mean, is there a rotational defensive tackle? Is there somebody like that that could have been used? Maybe this is why I don't do fake trades. Because like there was that fake trade circulating about how like, could they trade Wix and Karl Brooks and draft choices for Dexter Lawrence? And like, I'm not knocking the guy who made the trade up or whatever, like that's part of the deal. But that's why I don't do it. Because like, if the value was a fifth and a sixth, then that's not getting you a conversation started for, for that. But like, just as as I was doing that, I was looking up like, cornerbacks for the Eagles and everything like that, because you have done a swap for like, Ambrie Thomas at the back of their cornerbacker, maybe, or like defensive tackles, I don't know if the Eagles are going to be giving up any of these guys anyways. So you kind of started to have to look somewhere else. Well, in Green Bay is notoriously an organization that likes to draft and develop, right? They I feel like Green Bay as an organization would rather take the pick, or in this case, picks and use those then swap somebody for the most part. I know they did that earlier this year. But like, but as a as a as a historical basis for the franchise, right? Like, I think from a contract standpoint, it makes sense, right? Like if I'm trading for Joe Tryon, just as another backup pass rusher for Philadelphia, for example, that's a one year deal. I tried him for a fifth round pick this year. Save what you will about a fifth round pick, but that's a four year rookie contract. Like now I have four years to try and turn this guy into something. And I know that like, again, I know it was a fifth round pick, but sometimes that fifth round pick is Aaron Jones. Sometimes sometimes that fifth, sometimes that fifth round pick is George Kittle. Right. Like there are guys I mean, again, a lot of times it's not, but the more swings you have at that, you have a possibility of turning something that so I have no, I have no like, usually the NFL tells you what's a player worth on the trade market. And I think that fans in general of their own teams overrate a lot of their own players like what could what could we get if we traded, you know, this random guy, you know, it doesn't matter who it is. Like obviously, I know the deal for Michael Parsons now you're still getting a first round pick for him, you're getting a first round pick if you're a Jordan love. That might be it. As far as players on Green Bay's roster, they would get a first round pick for if it may be Zach Tom, but he's already got a contract. Like, there's just not a lot of guys around the league that are worth like first round picks and stuff like that. We've downline again, Wicks is a rotational receiver. You're not getting a top 100 pick for that. Right. So well, there you have it, Don Tavion Wicks, the latest receiver out of Green Bay, traded to the Eagles on Friday for a fifth round pick this year and a six round pick next year. So definitely be interesting to see what Green Bay does with the wide receiver position over the next couple of weeks and over the next next year, what who they give contracts to who they bring back who they let go what they decided to do there. So well, Jacob, I appreciate you filling in for Jimmy Christensen yet again. I'm sure he appreciates it too. Yeah, Jimmy, it's 60 degrees and I could be riding my motorcycle, but I'm here for you. So just, you know, just remember that. Yeah, just remember that. And I'm sure he would tell you, you could have said no. I could have said no. How am I supposed to say no to you? You know, people do it all the time, you'd be surprised, like you're like the only person that doesn't. I don't know if that's good or that can be good. It's not good. Anyway, but I do appreciate you filling in real quick. If people want to follow your work, get in touch with you, how can they do that, Jacob? Yeah, so first and foremost, go to Twitter X, whatever they call it these days at Jacob Weston North there. My pin tweet is the draft guide, the Green Bay draft guide myself, Jacob Morley, Ross Uglum. It just came out this week. Get your copy ordered. The draft is in two plus, well, two weeks, actually, less than two weeks now. So you're gonna want that because the Packers don't have a first round pick. And we've got guys all the way down that are you know, seventh round, undrafted free agent types. And we tell you how they fit with the Packers. You could find other work, stuff like that for Green Bay Packers on SI with Bill Huber. I'll be in Green Bay in two weeks to cover the drafts, talk to Goody, everybody else that comes and talks to the media about whoever it is that Green Bay picks and then kind of discuss some things from there. So that part is always fun and interesting for me. And that those are kind of the big two things that you guys care about the rest of stuff. You know, I do other stuff, but I don't think you guys care about my stories on the Miami Dolphins just for example. Packers South maybe, but still not the Packers. Correct. Yes, it went from Cleveland down to Miami now. So all right, well, thank you again, Jacob. Thank you, everybody for taking some time out of your Sunday afternoon to give us a listen. We really appreciate it. Make sure you're listening to Andy every day because he actually knows what he's talking about unlike Jacob and myself. Actually, Jacob knows what he's talking about as well. It's really when Jimmy and I have a conversation that you know, you can just decide to tune out. So enjoy the rest of your Sunday, everybody. Hopefully the weather is getting nicer where you're at. Like Jacob said, it's 60 degrees where he's at right now, which is really nice. It's supposed to be in the 70s by me this week. So I'm looking forward to that. Wow, for me too. Yeah. So the nice weather is here. Go outside. Enjoy it. Because Lord knows when we actually start talking about real packer stuff, it's gonna get cold again. So but thank you so much. Fourth file trade. What was that? Fourth file trade. Yeah. So but so thank you everybody for listening. We really appreciate it. We'll talk to you next week. And as always, go pack.