A Bipedal Creature We Call Sasquatch - Bigfoot Eyewitness Episode 536

If you've had a Bigfoot sighting and would like to be a guest, please go to BigfootEyewitness.com and let me know. My name is Kenneth Metzger. I'm the founder of the Montana, Idaho Bigfoot Research Group. I'm also a published author on a book about Bigfoot. I've been doing this hard line now for about five years, being in the field, online research. I'm currently working on another book about Bigfoot and it's a fascinating subject to me because of my personal encounters with Bigfoot things I've seen, heard, smelled and that and it really started in 78 with my first Bigfoot sighting, a full body sighting at 50 yards coming out of an alpine lake here in western Montana. What I was looking at was not a bear. It was a bipedal creature walking upright. It had been tearing. It sounded like tearing a log apart. You could see parts of that wood on its burr. And it was all black. And protruding brow height, protruding eyebrows, The head was rounded, not conical. Flat nose. The mouth was open. You could see the upper and lower fangs. Extremely a barrel chest, extremely muscular arms and legs. It went up the bank. It stopped and looked at me, and the wind was blowing towards it. I had a creel pull of fish, so if it had come at me, I could drop those and back away. It never did. It just went up the bank and then started barreling the road above me. And when it got behind me, that's when I really got a good smell of it. And it's a smell you'll never forget. And that smell has happened to me up in the swan in our field researches up there. All of a sudden, you get that smell, and you start feeling like you're being watched. Now, Bigfoot will stand there and watch you. is curious about you. I firmly believe they know within 30 minutes, an hour, that you're there, even though you're not doing anything but setting your camp up and that. But it's been, even as a child, things would happen I couldn't explain back then. I do associate it now with a bipedal creature we call Bigfoot or Sasquatch. strange wood structures abandoned cabins that had nests built in them caves that had grass piled as a bedding area and when you're young you really don't really think about it what's doing it but now after all the research I've gone through I'm leaning more and more to being around it especially when you see something large walking away from you you know, 8, 9, 10 foot tall. And it looks back at you, but it stays walking. And the other thing that hurts us who are active Bigfoot researchers is these guys in costume, Bigfoot costumes, going out there having buddies video on post them, oh, this is Bigfoot, it's not. Now with AI, you can pretty much make any kind of Bigfoot you want with AI. so it's getting harder and harder to prove actually what we're getting and it's just it's a situation just keep going stay on the track, just ignore everything I rarely watch any kind of Bigfoot show like Expedition Bigfoot Mountain Monsters Expedition X, rarely I watch those because to me they're all scripted and my question with them to a lot of that program do they have to sign a non-disclosure act with the government they have the evidence why aren't they releasing it and it's just a subject that's still new but something we have to realize we have a species it's worldwide just not North America, that is a bipedal evolving primate. This is controversial. They have in the Congo, bipedal primates are actually walking upright. They're real friendly. Their pattern of what they do is similar to what our Bigfoots do. And look at Australia. Anywhere you look in this world, there's reports of a bipedal creature by a different name. It's the same creature. Description may be a little different. Bice may be a little different. And that's what's so fascinating about even doing online research is digging all this stuff up, reading about all this stuff. And it's just fascinating. To me, it's the world of education. I'm a high school dropout. I hated school. And this had really gotten me to appreciate studying and researching. Because it's a subject I really love to do. And this year we're going to actually have a small voice recorder. So when I talk to the locals, I'll start getting the documented audio case files of their experiences. which is something I haven't done before. But it's time I do that because that's all part of the, part of our mission statement. We want it available to people. And that's what we're working towards. When I started going in the mountains when I was 13 years old and out of East Missoula, and that's when I started having, seeing unusual things, structures, hearing vocalizations like coyotes that weren't coyotes owls that weren't owls they're good at mimicking a lot of birds and it's always been there and now I'm a serious a very serious researcher on Bigfoot like I said I've got my second book coming up released sometime this fall and it's going to go worldwide this time and Vic and I will be talking about a few things we talked about a little while ago in my group the Montana Idaho Bigfoot Research group was formed five years ago and it was formed because I got tired of seeing people get trolled on Bigfoot sites they post some photos and people would troll them I was determined to have a group that didn't happen our number one rule in the group is to be respectful If you're not respectful, I remove you immediately from the group. I don't play games. I don't give warnings. I remove you. We're finally getting people to start opening up about experiences they've been having. And it's taken almost four years for this to happen. And we do have members from all over the world. I do get contacted by them about things that are going on in Ireland, Wales, China, Russia. so it's just not like I said Bigfoot is not local it's not native to North America and the one thing most people overlook is the Native American culture their history goes back according to them to the Blackfeet, the Blackfoot everyone I've talked to, Native Americans Bigfoot was already here when they crossed that land bridge and one of the oldest tribes in North America is the Blackfeet the Penderorolies, the Blackfeet they are the first Native American their DNA comes back thousands of years they've been in this country so these are the ones you want to talk to listen to and number one rule with Native Americans be respectful if you're not respectful they won't talk to you it's a learning curve it's all learning and the main thing is you have to have an open mind because somebody says something you may not believe in don't criticize them unless I personally see it I don't discount it I've never seen a dog man, so I don't discount them. I've never seen portals, interdimensional, but I'm not going to discount them. Because I haven't seen them, I can't say that guy hasn't experienced it. And my members are the same way. You keep an open mind, be respectful to who you're talking to. Yes, I have done a lot of podcasts. I enjoy doing podcasts. and we end up like with Nick here we're talking about what I've experienced and there was an incident I was coming I'd been hunting I rarely get turned around in the woods this time I did I don't panic I sat down and I pulled out a little packet of raisins and some jerky nose chewing on it to get my orientation I got up and started walking and all of a sudden I had a feeling I needed to go a certain way. There was arrows on the ground. I followed them right to my truck. I went back the next day, there was no arrows anymore. What put them there? What took them? These are the unexplained things. You can't... They happen, but it's hard to believe what you're seeing. What puts an extra bundle of dry wood by your fire when you're about out? You don't hear anything, but it happens. It's happened to me a couple of times. In the high up, I'm going to country gather wood. You get up about 3 o'clock, stoke the fire, and realize you maybe have enough wood for one more fire to stoke it. and then you wake up and there's another pile of wood there. What put that wood there? There's no humans there. Primitive fish traps. These are all areas nobody goes into. What's building them? This is what your awareness of something real special out there. And that... It's just, it's hard to really explain when you've been through a lot in your life, especially with a bipedal creature. But you know, it's always been around. I still can't explain what took that body of that coyote on my coyote line in the wintertime. There, I never thought about brushing the fresh snow out of those tracks. They were large. you're talking 18, 19 inch tracks I've always wondered what took it what destroyed the beaver traps it took the beaver that time of year the bears are hibernating one thing capable of destroying conobers and that is some of the extreme strength I can't do it logs that it looks impossible or throwing, you try to pick that log up, you can't pick it up. If you can rule out nature and man-made, what's doing it? And like structures, you're going to see things out there, but you have to understand, you've got to be able to distinguish between natural, man-made, and possibly liquid. but heavy rain and wind will top the trees. You'll have X's. Heavy snow will make bows. You have to know. You have to understand what you're looking at. And no one will understand what you're doing in the woods. The mountains are unforgiving. They will hurt you if you're not careful. And if you get hurt back then you're alone. you could pretty much seal your fate but still we do it we still go out there and traps in the woods and do our research I'm looking so forward to the one in June that's coming up and we do welcome others to join us come learn come out with us to see how we set up trail camps what we're looking for what kind of structures maybe a nesting site kinds of food they eat and we'll get into the one Vic and I talked about what time things happen it's fascinating but you have to understand you're dealing with something that is unknown I firmly believe as others the government knows exactly what Bigfoot is if you get too close they'll shut you down yes you will get warned trust me you will get warned they don't want you talking about it they don't want you exposing the truth like the UFOs and all that until they finally admit yeah they finally said yeah they're here why is the relationship between Bigfoot aliens and that in the Native American culture this is something they're not making up this is something they're saying Why did we have a still and clear object behind our motorhome on the second year of the Swan hovering in the air It wasn't there the night before or afterwards. The firelight is actually reflecting off the casing. Yet the firelight is not reflecting off the motorhome or the tents or anything. Just that object. I've come to expect the unexpected at any given time. I've never had a Bigfoot being aggressive, except for once when I threw something at the mortar home. I use a Class A mortar home as my base, and I work out a bit. We do have handhelds, 40-channel CVs that go in the field. They're all tied into that mortar home I had in my Jeep. I can monitor what's going on. We do have two-way radios we use. We do use night vision binoculars. We are also starting to use high-density motion-detected nightlights. They're solar-powered. So anything that comes in, it gets lit up, and the trail counts will catch what's there. we're always trying new things that's what's fun about field research is trying new things I don't feel Bigfoot's afraid of trail cameras they're very much aware of them, yes so are the deer, the elk, the moose I've gotten video of moose, deer, elk I've got one of the cow elk rubbed in the trail camera I've got wolves took three years I finally got a bird I have yet to get a bear and two years, three years ago when I went up with my youngest daughter I got a photo of her of me walking away from the trail camp then there's nothing at the end of the field in the trees is standing a male it looks like a male bigfoot and a juvenile, possibly a female and all these are taken during the day the shoulder and the finger is from St. Mary's, Idaho on my son's property, it was taken during the day I think they are very nocturnal, once a full moon they'll move more night under a full moon, so do the deer and elk but once the darker moves, they're moving during the daylight but this group my group we are dedicated to finding the truth we're we want to talk to people we want to tell people what we've learned I can sit in a bar and somebody will ask me I'll be there for 2-3 hours talking to a group of people about Bigfoot I don't go in planning to but it just ends up that way. And that's what it's all about, is learning. I'm a firm believer that Bigfoot is an evolving primate. Just like humans. And that's going to be controversial with creationists and that we didn't evolve for mate. What was Lucy? For us to survive, for Lucy to survive, you have to have a breeding population. So there had to be more than Lucy. The Dragon Man in China is similar to Lucy. And around the same time in the time frame history, there's been skulls uncovered in Malaysia that are not quite as old as Lucy, but getting back there. Where did humans come from? If you stay away from the creationist stuff, we evolved from something we have a good history if you look at the records of human development then look at the primate development there's no change in primate development humans, there's changes different species, types of humans for a short period of time this is what research is all about and what I find so fascinating one question I get is is Bigfoot a descendant of Gigantopithecus I'm not saying it's not it could be Gigantopithecus is based on molars and a few possibles the size of it you have a better chance of finding a cave bear primitive cave bear in a cave somewhere than finding a complete Gigantopithecus skeleton I get hit wide don't we find any dead ones how often you've been in the woods and find dead deer or dead bear you don't nature takes care of its own a body decays really fast if you watch a road kill watch how fast that body disappears from scavenging and decomposition like I said it's It's something I'm still learning, but the more I do this research, the more intriguing I'm getting about where did Bigfoot actually really come from. And did it come across the Land Ridge, one of the first Land Bridges? I know Land Ridge between Asia and Alaska had occurred several times. Did it come in one of those? did it move the other way instead of going east if they went west in Asia? And that part of the world, these are all unanswered questions. Maybe I'd never be able to answer them. And that's what makes it so intriguing. The best challenge is an unanswered question because you're going to try to answer that question. and that's what I do. I'll spend hours on the computer doing research. I spend, when I can, as much time as I can now in the mountains. Wintertime, I don't. Montana winters can be brutal. They can be cold. We get real hot summers here, so I feel they do move. They move in areas that are cooler in the summertime. There are areas that are warmer in the wintertime that they move to. they may hibernate somewhat. And I'll explain that in a little while, why I said that. Bears are known to get up from hibernation and wander around. Think of all the animals that hibernate. They do move around eventually in the wintertime. Humans, we do not hibernate. We're out there in the winter riding snowmobiles, skiing, snowshoes, fishing, we've learned to survive the cold weather. But we're adjust accordingly. But the main thing I want people to understand is, this is, to me, it's not a game. I want to know exactly what Bigfoot is. Yes, I've had DNA done on scat. It's come back to an unknown primate. and we keep trying to verify that every time we go in the field we're looking for hair we're looking for scat things like that and it's hard to find it's really hard to find I have a microscope I took time I've got 16 samples of hair of known species I can look under a microscope with them and compare it to the hair samples we find if it doesn't match one of those what is it if we get the follicle we have dna so i do go well prepared when i go in the field yeah it sounds like you go very well prepared when you head into the field yep everything i have um i do have uh video cameras we can video i have a 35 millimeter with a talkbook lens that lens Can take a clear photograph of five miles. Wow. Long way off. Yes. Yes, it is. And it's all set up. It's all set up there. We have people stop by the camp and sit down by the fire. We offer coffee. And when they start talking, we listen. When they're done, I ask questions. I go to the store up there. we don't get out of that store without somebody stopping to talk to me even tourists, we do have two t-shirts that says Bigfoot Researcher on it we'll have people waiting to talk to us when I was on the reservation, the Blackfield Reservation I'd come out of the store and people would want to talk people would flag me over to their car to talk about what they've seen. When I left Browning, they gave me the name the Bigfoot Man, which I honored that they actually gave me a name. So it's like I said, it's just, if you find something that intrigues you to the point, it doesn't become an obsession but it becomes a point of learning there's a lot of information out there it's just taking the time to do the research if you love being in the mountains go out and spend the time but go prepared don't go out there half way you have to prepare for adverse weather we went up and all it did was rain for 11 days it makes it hard to want to go out there swatching through wet brushes and stuff I won't do it, I don't expect my people to do it but I've got those that will do it your equipment don't cost them to spend a lot of money make yourself a budget buy the cheaper trail cams learn how to operate them if you're into drones with the cameras don't cost them to spend $1000 for a drone buy a cheap one and learn how to fly it to do a drone you have to get certified which I am certified to fly a drone and we do use drones, we use big ones and little ones and everything's a learning process, when you first start take it baby steps one step at a time every time you go out you're going to learn what you're going to need don't go overboard it's taken me four years to get all the stuff we have we have over 30 trail cats we'll be putting out two high end night vision binoculars that does record both video and photo and it's just you just take your time and do it right safety is number one they say never go in the woods alone and we're a firm believer of that yes we're in base camps we have weapons Montana has two species of bear the black bear and the grizzly grizzlies are aggressive the weapons can camp for to protect those that are there I don't like the people to wear weapons into the field because I think Bigfoot can sense them but I'm going to tell them not to do it I'm not going to tell them that that's their choice when they're at camp I want them put away because the one primary weapon shoots a 430 grain gas check barrel load it's a one shot bullet it's a 45-70 and it will drop a bear but we have yet to use one have to use it but it's always there in case we need it safety is our priority if I don't know you well if you get stupid you will be told to leave the camp when you come with us you do sign a non-disclosure agreement you also sign they have to sign a release of liability I had an attorney draw all this up and anybody join us has to sign it because if you get hurt out there I don't want you suing me for you being stupid. And people do get stupid, trust me, I've seen it. But safety and respect is the number one thing. But, you know, the years have come by, and now that I'm at a point in my life, I have the time to really get into this deeper and deeper. Every year I get into it deeper and deeper. And like I said, I do other podcasts. I think I've done seven already one with Vicka, audio one then I've also been featured on a radio station here in Missoula, I didn't know it Ray Harwood wrote part of a chapter about Native Americans in Montana and the Bigfoot he actually wrote about me and my group in his book which I feel honored there's some good books out there but when we look at other groups that are out there a lot of their programs are scripted to what they can say and that because of the time allowance they want to drag these programs out we been going to the same area for four years and we still finding stuff A lot of it I cannot disclose I've been advised not to disclose, which is fine. But the stuff I disclose, what I talk about, is safe to talk about. And like I said, it's something that I'm very passionate about, let's say that. I've had a good life. I've been all over the world. But my home is Montana. I will die here in Montana. But with the group, I've got good members. A lot of them do come to these field research trips, and we have fun. We do send a party out at night. we do use a high density flashlight but we also use high density black light flashlights the black light flashlight you don't get an eye shine you will with a regular flashlight these you don't I've tested them on deer, elk and all that you have no eye shine at all with the other ones you will have eye shine eye shine is the number one telltale about animal out there. They're watching you. You cannot become invisible to Bigfoot. He knows you're there. He can be invisible to you. They're very hard to find, very hard to see. But yet, the thing is, they make themselves known. If they want you to see them, they'll show themselves to you. And I'm not talking about the guys driving down the highway and Bigfoot also walks out across the road in front of them where they see them along the road picking up fresh roadkill and carrying it off as it does happen. This is the ones that will stand there. They may stand there for hours watching you, observing you. You know, the Native Americans saying is Bigfoot's a guardian of the mountains. It speaks for those that can't. Yes, they can be aggressive. And we are aware of that. We never know. Just like a bear, you never know if it's going to be aggressive or not. That's all part of being out there. But be respectful. When you have one clear sighting of a Sasquatch, Ken, that can cause an individual to struggle to find normalcy in their life. Considering how many experiences you've had, though, do you struggle to find normalcy in your life? In certain aspects, yeah. what I get hurt I have an analytical mind so when I have like a full body sighting or I see it on video or something a real what we get it's like I'm still scratching my head does it change your perspective yes it does because you're looking at something that shouldn't be there that one when I come out of that lake it just happened to have it stop and look at you your heart kind of race you kind of get scared because you know what it's going to do you can't outrun it and it may through it it gives you a better understanding of how closed mind humans can be they'll do it in all that can't happen that can't be but yet the evidence says opposite that it's there you know for years they said there were no primate fossils in North America explain the small primate fossils found in Canada, northern Canada and then again in a basin in Wyoming they're primate fossils they may have come out of South America may have moved. You know, to me, everything, I was talking to the girls, and I want everybody to think about this. A thousand 26. Two thousand 26. That's a thousand years. What has humans done in that thousand years? We've walked on the moon. we have cell phones people don't realize if you set dates like that you look at a thousand years and it's what our country's 250th anniversary something like that we've only been around this country's only been around a drop in the bucket according to time. How has the planet evolved in that thousand years? How many volcanoes? How many times did the Yellowstone caldera erupt? Krakatoa blue, Mount Vesuvius blue. There's other calderas that have erupted in that thousand years. Synomnies, we have no idea the size. Earthquakes. I think of things like that just now we have a species a bipedal species that is unknown maybe in time we'll finally get the answers from the government or find the definitive proof if you claim you have a body I guarantee they'll come confiscated every Bigfoot that's been hit by a vehicle and killed the body disappears they come in and they have a special chemical they work the highway down so there's no traces of DNA what happened to the dead Bigfoot after they found after Mount Hellen's eruption it's documented in the newspapers that them slinging loading dead Bigfoot where did they take them it was just but we keep doing what we do and what we enjoy doing and that's the main thing you gotta enjoy doing it don't go crazy about it but just persevere and you'll learn you'll learn I'm glad you found something you're so passionate about that's what life's all about it is it is a bit ago you stated that you think Sasquatch hibernate please go into more detail explaining your theories on why they do that and how they do that um it's like any mammals in the and i don't believe they do it down south in the warmer like arizona and all that this more related up to the north country of heavy snow ice um winters if you look squirrels mice a lot of animals will go into a hibernating species asleep, the bears do. I think Bigfoot will go into a semi-hibernating state that during extreme colds, when they do that, their heart rate slows down. They may wake up daring it, bears annoying to, and wander around and return to where they've been hibernating. if you look at birth and everything when does everything take place in the spring deer elk moose horses cows sheep and I also believe they do somewhat hibernate during those colds as far as the year they may not go into a whole hibernation but the areas they built their nests may be in caves old mining mine tunnels abandoned buildings anything to cut that wind if you've ever been in a cave or an old mine during the summer it's cool going there in the winter time it's warm there are all natural thermal spots in the mountains and I'm sure Bigfoot's fully aware of those. It can be 10, 20 below zero and you're in an area that might be 35 degrees. Warm enough you can take your jacket off and sit on the ground. I know Bigfoot's aware of all those areas. He has a better understanding of those mountains than you do. Like I said, I spent a lifetime in these mountains and I still learn every time I go out. hibernation bears, squirrels a lot of animals do hibernate and I'm not talking down south where it's warm year around and that I'm talking where it gets real cold yeah we may have a male bigfoot move around except bears will get up and move around especially the grizzlies this year here in western Montana, we haven't had a winter. The average temperature this year has been 45 in the wintertime. No snow. Except each of the divide and everywhere else, they're getting hammering with snow. This is the warmest winter on record. So naturally, the bears, they've already had bear sightings early. I think one of the first bear sightings was in March, which is early. If they do go into a form of hibernation, do you think it's a shallow one like bears do where they can wake up quickly if they're disturbed, or do you think it's too deep for that? I think it's a shallow one. They come up instantaneous when they get disturbed. Even if you look at the squirrels, they hibernate. But in the middle of winter, you'll see them running around. there are true animals that hibernate they're toads that go into kind of I can't remember the name but similar to hibernation they can be in that space for 10 years they only appear when it rains yeah that's one heck of an adaptation yeah seeds that have been frozen and permafrost they'll rejuvenate once they're planted they found seeds in a mammoth that they planted and it grew why is prehistoric trees starting to appear around the world growing around the world plants that were extinct you look at the fish fossil it was finally caught off the coast of Africa this is a fish that was supposed to be extinct you know everything in life if you I followed track of evolutionary time, which I've really been studying. At one time, everything was large. Mammals were extremely large. Plants were large. But as the climate changed, they all started downsizing to what we have today. You had the giant sloths. You had the giant cave bear, giant beavers. the true prehistoric animals that are still alive are your alligators and crocodiles a lot of lizards we have are similar to what was back in prehistoric time you got the dragon lizard that can it flares out and it runs on water it's adapted species adapt to the environment humans have a hard time doing that we have to have our shelters we cannot survive a hard winter without shelter or proper clothing speaking of winter do you think sasquatch cash food for the winter or do you think they're 100% hand to mouth um if possible i've never crossed come across anything indicating they do. I'm not saying they don't. You get more activity on the highways in the wintertime because of the roadkill of Bigfoot being seen. I know guys have gone hunting and that late hunts of that in the snow. Drop something. They go out to get friends and they come back and it's gone. It's not a drug. It's been carried away. Any animal that would die in the wintertime, Bigfoot's going to take a feed on it. They are meat eaters. So partial hibernation, yeah, very strongly I believe they do through the worst of the weather. When you're dealing with something that is so unknown, everything becomes a theory, and everybody's going to have their own theory about Bigfoot and what it does. and like I tell people what I talk about is based on my own personal theories that I've developed through years of research and through observation you know when I first started running a trap line I learned through observation of the animals I was going to trap I learned how to do it properly how to skin and all that which which meat like the beaver beaver's excellent to eat so it's muskrat but i do like i said i do firmly believe bigfoot does go into a semi-hibernating state especially the female speaking of the females you've got an interesting theory regarding what happens with sasquatch mothers from conception to birth please expand on that for us okay i got thinking about that nobody's ever talked about when Bigfoot conceives nobody's able to deserve it so I took the large larger primates gorilla orangutan chimpanzee and human the term of birth is anywhere from eight and a half months to nine months humans being the longest most averages eight and a half months or you add those all together and divide by four If Bigfoot is a primate it puts it in at eight and a half months, which means it's conceived in the fall and births in the spring time of plenty. You have baby birds, you have eggs, you have fish running, you have fawns, calves. everything is a new birth if you look at bears any animal out there that gives birth is in the spring and I think I I'm not going to say I bet donuts to dollars on it but I'm looking at eight and a half months from conception to birth that would put it around September that they conceive and early April, May that they give birth when it's warmer. The female, I feel, does go into a hibernating state. The male may bring her food when she's awake. The mortality of baby Bigfoot is going to be high. So they're very protective of those that are born. They can be very aggressive, as many animals are around their babies. A cow A cow moose will kill you if you get teen it, and its baby, a bear will kill you if it gets teen it and its cubs. Bigfoot's no different. But my theory is you're looking at it from conception to birth at eight and a half months. That's an interesting theory. Nobody's ever talked about it. That's true. Yeah, this is the first time I've heard it mentioned. It seems like they have everything about their lives figured out. If that's the case, I'm sure there is definitely a reason for when they choose to time the conception. Yeah. Bears mate in the fall. You have birth in the spring. Deer, elk, and all that, they mate in the fall. They give birth in the spring. Everything's based on the spring. Humans are the only one that can have babies any time of the year. but all species are birthed what I see is deer, elk, moose bears, a lot of animals will conceive in the fall and they give birth in the spring it's just not like fish and stuff there's also new plants watercress, skunk cabbage, all this other greens out there too that are fresh growth. Baby cattail wrists are dynamite to eat. I've eaten them. Bigfoot knows they're good. Americans eat them. Like I said, it's only a theory about birth of Bigfoot. But to me, I used the best approach I could to make that determination. Like I said, humans carry the longest birth. Yeah, we have premature births. yes, but the average birth time is nine months. And the other one is between eight, eight and a half months. So, basing it off the DNA of an unknown primate, I'm looking at eight and a half months from conception to birth. Yeah, you just might be right about that. You describe Sasquatch as being evolving bipedal primates. Does that mean that you're vehemently opposed to the idea that they just might be spiritual beings well i i always approach it like this vic i've never seen portals i've never seen interdimensional and not to say it doesn't happen i'm not saying they're descendants of abel and them or any of that i base everything on my own personal experiences is it possible yes i'm not going to say it's not i don't have a right to tell somebody oh that that's not true that can't happen because the way they look at the research is going to be different than what i see if they said oh i saw this thing come out of a portal it seemed to be interdimensional i'm not going to disclaim it and put them down if it's the other way like what you're talking about, I can't say no to that. I have to respect everybody's own opinion or how they're viewing something because we're all different. We're all different. I was raised very religious. Vietnam took care of that, but that's okay. I hear it all the time like dog men. I'm not going to say it doesn't exist. I've never encountered one. there are a few areas here in Montana they've been reported one area north of us I have yet to get to that area I've been so concentrated on Bigfoot Satchelor that it's an area I may look into something else I might get interested in and I know they're very aggressive but being a spiritual aspect it's possible it's possible And we all, I think it's an individual's perception of something unknown. That matters. Like when I worked security in Kauai, the grade school, high school that night, I'm walking, checking doors down a wooden walkway. What grabbed my shoulder and jerked me back? There was nobody there. what causes steel light poles to start swaying when there's no wind what turns on lights and water in an empty cabana when there's nobody in there it's the unexplained stuff that's you know are you afraid possibly most of my jobs I work graveyard shifts I loved working graveyard shifts and we had one there on Kauai when I first started working scared of a hotel security graveyard there was a hay out by the park Libgate Park I sit by the jacuzzi and you could see right through to the ocean there was a young girl that would sing there about every other night in Hawaii but there was nobody sitting there do I discount it No, I don't discount it. You know, each of us are going to form our own theories and that. And we have to respect each other for those theories. One of the many reasons why I find you so impressive there, Ken, is the fact that here you clearly know so much about these guys, but you're still open to the fact that there's still a lot that you don't know about them. A lot of people, once they get to know a certain amount about a topic, they just close off their minds and they think they know pretty much all there is to know about that subject but that's not you and that's really impressive yeah I have an open mind I mean I want to learn if you've got a different view than me I want to hear it because we have something in common we've witnessed something even though it's been different you still experience something very unique you can't close your door mind to that like I was telling Vic I don't have much time left in my life and I'm living my life and I'm enjoying my life what time I got left and it's not being sitting on a pot chair feeling sorry for myself I've never felt sorry for myself I don't know how many times I've been knocked down in life in the gutter but you know what I come out standing on my own two feet and got better. And these books is actually my legacy to my group and my family. You can't keep a good man down. There's a lot of truth to that. Yeah. Well, when I was young and dumb, I got drunk in a bar, and me and a friend decided to try to ride a buffalo, if you could call that stupid. Well, yeah, not a good idea. Yeah, not a good choice, but we've all done stupid stuff like that. Yeah, thank God there was a John Deere tractor there. When he hit that tractor, I almost tipped it over. But, you know, when you're dumb, you don't think about stuff. We used to camp up with Boy Scouts at Gold Creek, and that's how crazy we were. It would drift us. We didn't go winter camping until it was 30 below zero, 30, 40. We'd get buck-ass naked and sit a log in the middle of the Gold Creek. we go on the cliffs and we jump off these cliffs into snowdrifts you're talking 30, 40, 50 feet or higher and we were nuts you were burning at both ends no doubt about that like I said I've been fortunate I've got to travel the world I served in Vietnam and I'm proud of my service in Vietnam thank you for your service thank you and then I ended up in Germany before I got out of the military and I got back in into the Army Reserves over a bar vet. And I'm the one that will take a challenge head on. If you're going to challenge you, you better have some money because I'll attempt to challenge you. I challenge you to give me $100, Ken. What's your address? No, I didn't think that was going to work, but I had to try nonetheless. I'll send it to you on my next royalty check. That sounds like a plan. That sounds good to me. Yeah, I do get royalty for my first book, so that makes it nice. Oh, that's got to make it nice. Speaking of that book, please take this opportunity to promote your first book, the new one you're working on in the Montana-Idaho Bigfoot Research Group. Yeah. Okay, my first is a personal quest to understand Bigfoot. and it is available on Amazon. And the paperback is $9.99. Of course, hardcover is a little bit more. In it, I talk about a lot of the stuff the group and I have come across in the time we've been out doing field research. The next book is actually going to have photographs of photos taken off of trail cams. the areas what kind of territory we're actually doing our research in so people can understand that and structures I'll have a whole chapter on structures alone, drawings of what I believe are Bigfoot drawings I've already been told they will continue the group after I pass away all my stuff, all my field research equipment goes to the group to continue continue it all my notes all my sim cards it's everything on them but the next book it according to the publisher will be going international he's talking 21 different languages so it's a slow process but I won't send him any manuscript until I'm done and I'm looking probably early winter this coming year this year before I'm ready to send it but the group we welcome anybody to join we are on facebook if you look up montana idaho pit foot research group and you want to join make sure you answer the questions my uh admin will deny anybody that doesn't answer the questions even if you're in groups we we are in also because one thing our primary goal is and rule is you have to be respectful because a lot I made a comment. You sure kicked him out fast. He wasn't even done typing. I said, I know it. I will not be disrespected, nor will I have any of my memories and be disrespected by somebody. Because we all have something in common, wanting to know what Bigfoot is, wanting to learn about it. But I always appreciate when I talk to Vic. It's been a couple of years, and I actually brought up the last audio one I did for you. I keep all that stuff. Good man. Yeah. But I know we're running out of time, and I want to thank you, Vic, for having me on. And I want everybody out there to be safe. And those of you that are interested in getting into the Bigfoot research, just take it slow. Take it real slow, and you'll learn a lot. And I'm easy to get a hold of through Facebook. And so that everyone listening knows, I'm going to put a link to the Montana, Idaho, Bigfoot Research Group Facebook page in the description for tonight's show. That'll make it really easy for you to find. Yeah, I appreciate it. I appreciate it. Well, glad to do it. But having said that, Ken, I can't thank you enough for coming on to share all those experiences and all this info with us. I really do appreciate it. Well, I'm glad you had me and I'm glad you contacted me. again like i said it's one subject i'm learning every year every day i'm learning more and more and have more and more happening so maybe down the road we can do another one just let me know you're a great ambassador for the field so yeah i mean it's always great to have you on so thank you for your time yeah thank you vick and for everybody else you all be safe and god bless you thanks so much and have a good night that's it for another episode of Bigfoot Eyewitness Radio with Vic Cundiff if you've had a Sasquatch encounter and would like to be a guest on the show please go to bigfoot eyewitness.com and submit a report we'd love to hear from you thanks for listening have a great night you