This is Ryder Strong, and I have a new podcast called The Red Weather. In 1995, my neighbor, Anna Traynor, disappeared from a commune. It was nature and trees and praying and drugs. So no, I am not your guru. Back then, I lied to everybody. They have had this case for 30 years. I'm going back to my hometown to uncover the truth. Listen to The Red Weather on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is the biggest night in podcasting. The countdown is on to our 2026 iHeart Podcast Awards. Live from South by Southwest, March 16th, we'll honor the very best in podcasting from the past year and celebrate the most innovative, talented creators in the industry. It's truly a who's who of the podcasting world. Creativity, knowledge, and passion will all be on full display. And the winner of the iHeart Podcast Award is... See all the nominees now at iHeart.com slash podcast awards. Audible is a proud sponsor of the Audible Audio Pioneer Award. Explore the best selection of audio books, podcasts, and originals all in one easy app. Audible. There's more to imagine when you listen. Sign up for a free trial at audible.com. Saturday, May 2nd, country's biggest stars will be in Austin, Texas. At our 2026 iHeart Country Festival presented by Capital One. Tickets are on sale now. Get yours before they sell out at ticketmaster.com. That's Ticketmaster.com. When segregation was a law, one mysterious Black club owner, Charlie Fitzgerald, had his own rules. Segregation in the day, integration at night. It was like stepping on another world. Was he a businessman? A criminal? A hero? Charlie was an example of power. They had to crush him. Charlie's Place, from Atlas Obscura and Visit Myrtle Beach. Listen to Charlie's Place on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, Amber. Hi, Lola. Welcome to An Unlikely Affair. Hello, everyone, and welcome back to another episode of An Unlikely Affair. Hello, Lola. Hello, gorgeous. I hope you say that every day for the next 50 years of our friendship. It's my most favorite thing. And you have to get the tone right, too. It's so wild. We are here in San Francisco, which I've only been, I think, one time, actually. But the last time that I was in San Francisco was when I burned the house down on Vanderpump Rules. Oh, really? Season 11. Out in the middle of, like, this bay, whatever, building that was, like, you had to take a ferry to get to. And I was kicking back, relaxing, being like, I won't do it. Alcatraz? I won't do it. That felt like that. Were they sending you away? They're like, we got to get this Lala off the show. We're going to send her to Alcatraz. That shit is so funny. No, it wasn't Alcatraz. I forgot what it was called. We have a jam-packed couple of days. I know, but I'm so excited. I was really hoping that we would end up having like a Rams Patriots situation. That didn't happen. All is good. That's fine. I still love football. you're more basketball though right? Of course I love basketball but I would definitely say I'm probably more I feel like I should go for the Seahawks I don't know why I keep that Do that because then we'll have a healthy competition Okay But we are here for our cute launch party of an unlikely affair I figured that this would be like well both of us figured this would be the perfect place to do it There's like so many fun people that are going to be around the energy is just like you guys it's a wednesday and it's already popping here and so many different jerseys it doesn't even i'm wishing now instead of wearing red that i would have worn my ray lewish baltimore jersey i know maybe you could change later oh you didn't bring it never mind i didn't bring it well maybe it's a good thing you didn't bring it i brought my g unit throwback i know i saw it this morning i actually really like that i walked in and i was like g unit yeah you did in that exact voice um tamra judge is gonna be at the party you're who i'll introduce you to amber she's like a bag of fun dolores who was on real housewives of new jersey she's like a fucking mob boss oh i love that i love a good jersey mob vibe maybe someone will come to the party who just happens to have a vape on them and i'll just like happen to stumble my mouth into it oh no and accidentally breathe in. I can't. You're twitching again. Okay. I want to talk about this one. Give us more details about how Lala didn't know her ex had a wife. We talked about this literally yesterday because there are times where Amber and I will reminisce about the past and you will bring something up or I will bring something up and I will say to you, had I not been drinking, I would have known. I was actively trying to ignore. And when I say that... So when you say I was actively trying to ignore, that means there's something inside of you that felt off. Yes. anytime my gut would talk to me, I would drink more. I do not relate my alcoholism to meeting him. I think that that's a cop out for me. I think it's always lived deep within me, alcoholism. But I do, I can pinpoint exactly when it spiraled out of control, which is when I met him. And I would drink excessively to numb my intuition. And when I say I made a deal with the devil, I put importance on not only numbing my gut, but importance on things. And it's not something I'm proud of. If I could go back and change it, I would. It is what it is. I don't recommend that at all because I was getting a lot of things, but I have never been more sad and depressed and empty in my entire life. Yeah. Well, the things and alcohol, it's like the same. It's feeding the same beast. Yeah, it really is. But when people say, how could you not have known? It's like, I understand. I understand why you would ask that. Because when I'm telling stories, I too go, Bitch you did know but you drank to make that feeling go away And then cut to when I get sober and it was still weighing very heavy on me I need to know that I did not ruin this home That is very important for me. It's very important for my sobriety. I need to fucking know. To fly to Arizona and meet with this therapist who then confirms everything he said. I let everything go. I was like, wow, okay, I really didn't, I really didn't, I didn't do anything wrong. Yeah. Which was obviously very much a lie. Not true. Yeah. Very not true because then I called you after I had parted ways from him and you were like, oh yeah, I know that woman. She was our couples therapist. Yeah, that was an interesting time. Yeah. Anyway, I should have known I chose to drink that feeling away. Unfortunately. Well, I've said this before and I will say it again. you saved my life. I could not save my own life at the time. I was in too much pain, and I did not know how to get out. Yeah. Even though it had happened 15 times prior to that, I really needed the last straw, for whatever reason, to see what I saw and to say, okay, that's it. because if you don't leave, you're not going to live another day to see your kids. It was the emotional pain and the emotional abuse was too much, and it's probably hard for anyone who is out there going, like, you just fucking leave. It's like, no, it's not that easy, and when there's kids involved, and I will, you know, my job is to clean my side of the street. I take responsibility for not leaving. Um, it was really hard, but I, I don't want to look in the rear view mirror. I like, I want to look forward and move forward in my life. And I'm really proud of the person that I'm becoming not perfect. There's still a lot of work and I'm doing the work every day. Um, but I'm in a much, much better head space where I could think clearer. And I know that my choices, not just in my, my romantic life, but as a mom, as a friend, as a sister, um, and in my career are everything's a little bit clear. There's no more fog. The fog has been lifted. Yeah. I love that for you. Next question. Oh, this is really interesting. This is a great one for you. Would Amber get eaten alive if she joined the valley? Oh, my God. I don't think. No, because you guys have to remember that Amber and I at one point in time had toxicity within our relationship. and Amber can get fucking scrappy and it comes out of nowhere. It comes out of nowhere. You're like just this like beautiful face with these like eyes that you feel like you're stealing my soul in the best way possible and then all of a sudden... No, you would not get eaten alive. I think you'd eat alive and you'd sideswipe. You're a sideswiper. I'm a sideswiper. Oh, yeah. Oh, okay. I love a sideswiper. You're like the, you're the, you're the lethal weapon that I would want on my team. Everyone knows, like I have no tricks. I never sideswipe anybody because everybody knows exactly how I move. Oh no, you're lethal. Yeah, no, I've, I'm pretty calm and like level-headed until someone I'm crossed the wrong way. And then I will go ape shit on your ass. Usually on this podcast, we'll kill you. we talk about the diseases, infections, and biological threats that can make us really sick. But right now, we're doing something a little different. We're stepping back and looking at what the human body needs to keep going. When you consider what we know about sleep in humans, there's one rule that comes out. We are predictably unpredictable sleepers. We're talking about why sleep works the way it does, why our bodies don't follow neat rules, and why modern life makes rest so hard to come by. The second half of our series takes us to the digestive system with a multi-part series on what happens after we eat. Okay, I just have to say that all of my favorite words apparently are digestive words. Yeah, sphincter, peristalsis, duodenum. It's fascinating, it's funny, and it matters so much more than you think. Episodes of our new series run from January 20th through February 17th, with new episodes every Tuesday on the Exactly Right Network. Listen to This Podcast Will Kill You as part of the Exactly Right Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I went and sat on the little ottoman in front of him. I was like, hi, dad. And just when I said that, my mom comes out of the kitchen and she says, I have some cookies and milk. This is a badass convict. Right. Just finished five years. I'm going to have cookies and milk at mom. On the Sino Show podcast, each episode invites you into a raw, unfiltered conversations about recovery, resilience, and redemption. On a recent episode, I sit down with actor, cultural icon Danny Trail to talk about addiction, transformation, and the power of second chances. The entire season two is now available to binge, featuring powerful conversations with guests like Tiffany Adish, Johnny Knoxville, and more. I'm an alcoholic. And without this trouble, I'm going to die. Open your free iHeartRadio app, search The Cito Show, and listen now. This is Ryder Strong with a podcast called The Red Weather. In 1995, my neighbor, Anna Traynor, disappeared from a commune. It was nature and trees and praying and drugs. So no, I am not your guru. Back then, I lied to everybody. They have had this case for 30 years. I'm going back to my hometown to uncover the truth. You can now binge all episodes of The Red Weather on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. segregation in the day, integration at night. When segregation was the law, one mysterious Black club owner had his own rules. We didn't worry about what went on outside. It was like stepping on another world. Inside Charlie's place, Black and white people danced together. But not everyone was happy about it. You saw the KKK? Yeah, they were dressed up in their uniform. The KKK set out to raid Charlie, take him away from here. Charlie was an example of power. They had to crush him. From Atlas Obscura, Rococo Punch, and Visit Myrtle Beach comes Charlie's Place, a story that was nearly lost to time. Until now. Listen to Charlie Place on the iHeartRadio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts Are they ever jealous of each other? Well, I know the answer to that. No. I was jealous of you back in the day. Because you had, like, talent and you were, like, really pretty naturally. Oh, stop. No, I'm being serious. I'm being vulnerable right now. Oh, okay. Yeah, I would be envious, and I think that's why I would act in a certain way, out of, like, jealousy, which is very ugly. But since we've become friends, no. Like, I'm really jealous of your jawline, but that's, like, a really nice jealousy. I'm jealous of your lips. Okay, next one. That's so funny. Why the hell did you both want to be with your ex? What did you find so intriguing? I don't know if I found anything. You know what? This is a good question because it allows us to toot his horn, which never freaking happens. You guys, he is so much fun when you first meet him. Yes, absolutely. And that's how he gets you. So fun. It is funny. Great and so funny. And it's all good until it's fucking hell. And it happens very, very quickly. Yeah. How did I go from heaven to hell so quickly? Well, we just talked about it. There was a lot of isms going on. Isms. That's what it is. Yeah. Yeah. He's very funny. He's a good storyteller. And he knows how to have a good time. And for me, when I was, I met him when I was 17, turning 18 the next month. You were such a baby. I was such a baby. Listen, anyone at that age, it was like larger than life. And he was fun. I don't know. That's it. He was fun. All right, next one. How long have you two been on good terms and how many years? You know, I've been thinking about that. I called Amber shortly after I had left my ex and I called to make amends. And that was about four, a little over four and a half years ago. But I mean, we've been in each other's lives. Yeah. I think once that phone call finally happened, I still think that there was a lot of healing between that phone call and where we are today. Of course. And it's only getting better, right? Like, you're learning to trust me. I'm learning to trust you. And consistency. I don't know. I just think it's really beautiful. Like, it's been not an easy journey. It's definitely not linear. And I think we're doing a pretty good job. I think we're doing an amazing job. Yeah. And there's not a lot of people that I would take criticism from. But when you say something, you're like, dude, you're done. I'm like, oh, got it. Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you think that that's because we feel protected by each other? Yes. We feel protected and I respect you. I respect you too. That's so, you said that that's what you're looking for in like a partnership too. Like you have to respect the person. Do you find that as you go through life, you realize that, oh, my circle's getting smaller as well because I'm realizing I don't respect a lot of people? Yes. Yes. I would say so. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. A lot of profound shit happening on this stage today. Yeah, you're not kidding. I think it's all the fucking hot athletes that I'm making baby making eyes with. Hello. Hello. Did you see Cam Newton just passed? No. With his big hat that's so fucking sexy. I don't know. Wait, who's that? Cam Newton? You don't know who Cam Newton is? Mm-mm. He is fine. He is fine. Is he? What is? Oh, I don't know. He just passed this way. Oh. Anyway, moving on. Okay. You're up, sister. No, I've asked two questions. You're up. What was it like the first time you met in person? I was like a drunk back then. Do you remember the first time we met in person? Was it at one? It was like at a game, right? I actually don't recall. That's still like a little bit of a blurry time for me. You know what I think it was? You came over to the house for a birthday. Oh, you're right. It was either London or Riley's birthday. The house was not, the house was the same way it was before the renovation. I remember feeling like I was going to throw up. I remember your person at the time, your boyfriend was like, let me get a picture of you, our ex, and the kids, and I wanted to light all of you on fire. I was like, this is so inappropriate. Even though it's not inappropriate, that's normal. Now that I have children, I know that that is like a normal thing, right? Yeah, yeah. But it doesn't feel good. A healthy thing. Yeah, I shouldn't say normal. Healthy. That was the first time we met. Yeah, I actually recall now. I wonder what year was that? I don't even know what year that was. long time ago. 2000, probably like 18, no, 18? Yeah, probably 2018. It could have been 18. Yeah. Right before I got sober. I think it was before then. It was before then. I think I was living in the house in 18. I got sober in 2018. Oh. Usually on this podcast, We'll Kill You, we talk about the diseases, infections, and biological threats that can make us really sick. But right now, we're doing something a little different. We're stepping back and looking at what the human body needs to keep going. When you consider what we know about sleep in humans, there's one rule that comes out. We are predictably unpredictable sleepers. We're talking about why sleep works the way it does, why our bodies don't follow neat rules, and why modern life makes rest so hard to come by. The second half of our series takes us to the digestive system with a multi-part series on what happens after we eat. Okay, I just have to say that all of my favorite words apparently are digestive words. Sphincter, peristalsis, duodenum. It's fascinating, it's funny, and it matters so much more than you think. Episodes of our new series run from January 20th through February 17th, with new episodes every Tuesday on the Exactly Right Network. Listen to This Podcast Will Kill You as part of the Exactly Right Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I went and sat on the little ottoman in front of him. I said hi dad And just when I said that my mom comes out of the kitchen and she says I have some cookies and milk This is badass convict Right. Just finished five years. I'm going to have cookies and milk at mom. Yeah. On the Sino Show podcast, each episode invites you into a raw, unfiltered conversations about recovery, resilience and redemption. On a recent episode, I sit down with actor, cultural icon Danny Trail to talk about addiction, transformation, and the power of second chances. The entire season two is now available to binge, featuring powerful conversations with guests like Tiffany Addish, Johnny Knoxville, and more. I'm an alcoholic. And without this trouble, I'm going to die. Open your free iHeartRadio app. Search The Cito Show and listen now. This is Ryder Strong with a podcast called The Red Weather. In 1995, my neighbor, Anna Traynor, disappeared from a commune. It was nature and trees and praying and drugs. So no, I am not your guru. Back then, I lied to everybody. They have had this case for 30 years. I'm going back to my hometown to uncover the truth. You can now binge all episodes of The Red Weather on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Segregation in the day, integration at night. When segregation was the law, one mysterious Black club owner had his own rules. We didn't worry about what went on outside. It was like stepping on another world. Inside Charlie's place, Black and white people danced together. But not everyone was happy about it. You saw the KKK? Yeah, they were dressed up in their uniform. The KKK set out to raid Charlie, take him away from here. Charlie was an example of power. They had to crush him. From Atlas Obscura, Rococo Punch, and Visit Myrtle Beach comes Charlie's Place, a story that was nearly lost to time. Until now. Listen to Charlie's Place on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Amber, okay. Imagine if you both got together in the end of all you have been through. Listen, my life has taken many twists and turns. Well, we now know that you've never had a female experience. I have had a many female experience in my day. What does that mean? I will not I have had fun with women but I think I am finally in the place of wanting this sounds so weird and how did it change so quickly I really want to find my person and I think I see myself with a man yeah I don't picture myself now get it like physical attraction with a woman I'm down for it, but I just don't picture myself in an intimate partnership with a woman. A hundred percent. So I don't know how people want to label that, but I love you as my friend. And the moment I go down on you, uh, it's going to make things awkward and very complicated. I'm going to be really confused. I don't want complications. No, we're good. We're good. No, I'm, I'm very, um, however, Oh, here we go. If someone would have said back in the day before I knew you or a homeboy, you're going to end up with one of these people, I would have put my life that I would have ended up with you before I ended up with him. We're talking physical appearance. Oh my gosh. You guys, I had such a heyday talking with all of you, especially in the environment that we're in. It's like a kid in a candy store for me. For me. There's no vape today. There's no vape. All of these fine men around. I'm tweaking out. No vape. Vagina. Ready for it all. Something needs to puff on something. Someone shove a stick-looking device. I have some mints in my purse. I'm going to be giving you a lot of mints. All right. Look at your itching. You're itching. You're like a real addict. Because I'm, like, excited to go and see and be seen. And there's nothing better, you guys, than puffing on the vape while you see and be seen. Oh, my God. You want to sign us off, Amber? Thank you, everybody, for joining on another episode of An Unlikely Affair from San Francisco. We will see you guys next time. Bye. Bye. This is Ryder Strong, and I have a new podcast called The Red Weather. In 1995, my neighbor, Anna Traynor, disappeared from a commune. It was nature and trees and praying and drugs. No, I am not your guru. Back then, I lied to everybody. They have had this case for 30 years. I'm going back to my hometown to uncover the truth. Listen to The Red Weather on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everyone. It's Emily Simpson and Shane Simpson from the Legally Brunette podcast. Each week, we're bringing you true crime through a legal lens. Whether you want all the facts on the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie, or you still need to wrap your head around the ditty verdict, we're breaking it all down step by step. And we're not just lawyers, we're also husband and wife. It makes for some pretty entertaining episodes. Listen to Legally Brunette on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Saturday, May 2nd, country's biggest stars will be in Austin, Texas, at our 2026 iHeart Country Festival presented by Capital One. See Kane Brown, Parker McCollum, Riley Green, Shabuzi, Dylan Scott, Russell Dickerson, Gretchen Wilson, Chase Matthew, Lauren Alaina. Tickets are on sale now. Get yours before they sell out at Ticketmaster.com. When segregation was a law, one mysterious black club owner, Charlie Fitzgerald, had his own rules. Segregation in the day, integration at night. It was like stepping on another world. Was he a businessman? A criminal? A hero? Charlie was an example of power. They had to crush him. Charlie's Place, from Atlas Obscura and Visit Myrtle Beach. Listen to Charlie's Place on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Thank you.
