1444 - Heavenly is a BBW Traveling Fetish Model who Has Her Own Foot Fetish

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Oh, thank you, thank you so much I am doing fabulous, thank you very much Well, listen, you are I mean, this is how you tag yourself in my email A BBW Traveling Fetish Model Which is like, oh my God, I can hear I read those four words and I'm like I have a million questions for you Ha ha ha ha Well, yes, please I'm here to ask all the questions I have the answers Yeah, now you are doing the Anties Tour Okay, which is like I just talked to Livy who was like so fucking awesome Because I didn't know that she was like heading up And created the whole tour And I'm most likely like post her episode first So people could get her whole backstory And then you're also a part of that whole Cool tour that she's doing, right? But you have a huge You know, we learned a lot about the tour on that You know, podcast and we'll talk about like that Upcoming it towards the end of this one But what I want to talk to you about is like Your life story when I was like Oh, you're not really a hot wife You're a traveling fetish model So what does that mean? Like what fetish are you into? Or is it that you are open to fetishes? Depending, like what does a fetish model do? Or traveling, yeah What does a traveling fetish model do? So basically, I say broadly fetish model Because yes, I do cater to multiple fetishes And I, but I started off as a foot model I'm known for my feet because that was how I started Because I have very high arches Oh, that's what they like And listen, how did, because listen I started doing my show like 12 years ago 11, 12 years ago, right? And the way I found people to call into my show I just wanted a regular call in my show, by the way Not about sex or anything But I just went into the Craigslist personals Because it was free And I got all these people with these crazy kinks And fetishes, right? And that's where I learned about all these things That guys were into And I have to say I learned that like pantyhose and feet were two of the one Like two of the biggest ones, right? And I couldn't believe it Like how did you get wind that, you know There was a foot fetish thing that was out there That your feet were like perfect for it? Like do you remember how you even found out that? Because I feel like most people don't even know That certain fetishes exist, you know what I mean? Well, I didn't know I really wasn't aware of a foot fetish until I think it was during COVID And, you know, everybody's struggling financially So, you know I needed to make a way to make some extra cash And me and my cousin were basically getting high one day And fooling around, you know And we were looking at these advertisements Sell feet pics for money And we're like, oh, our feet look nice Let's just see what that's all about And we kind of were joking around And I have a nail technician of mine at the time Who was like, well, if you're really serious I know a guy And I was like, what do you mean you know a guy? It's so funny, at least you listen I love your story because it's starting out Like really super honest, you know what I mean? Like if you go straight up like that Listen, I needed some cash And I found out that there was like a thing for this And my feet were nice, so I'm like, why not? Why not? Yeah, it seems harmless, you know So then I was like, okay, well, what do you mean, you know You know a guy, what does that mean? She's like, well, I know a flip photographer And I was like, that's a thing? I didn't even know, I didn't know So she hooked me up with my very first photographer Who at the time was pretty well known So he had a decent following on Instagram So once I did my very first photo shoot And it gave me some exposure That's when people started booking me for other photo shoots And then that's how I started in the foot fetish side of things And learning more about the fetish itself At that time, it was, I think around that time Was when kind of OnlyFans actually was blowing up And I didn't think it was a, you know I would ever do something like that But once I started in the, you know Doing different photo shoots And having different producers hiring me I noticed that, yeah, other foot models were doing OnlyFans So I decided, oh, let me try it And that's where I also started building a fan base So between Instagram and then the OnlyFans And then I found out about Twitter at the time And how relaxed I think that platform is, you know Just in, you know, the sex industry Or the adult entertainment industry in general Yeah, you know So a lot more lenient with what you can post So you use that as a platform to advertise Your OnlyFans and your everything, of course Yeah, to market and all that And so that's where the majority of my fan base Grew over the years Now let me ask you a quick question, like, you know Did you know you had nice feet? Because you just looked down and you saw other friends' feet And they were busted and yours were so nice Or did you ever have like a boyfriend? Did you have a lot of guys like over the time? Because listen, a lot of guys have a foot fetish You would just never know it, right? But they might say to you like, oh my God, you have hot feet Did any guys ever compliment your feet? How did you know you had good feet? So I have always thought, I've always loved my own feet In the sense of like I always had, I always took, I always got pedicures I always made sure my feet were taken care of And I didn't really ever think it was a thing, you know But I do know when I was younger, I was a ballet dancer So that was like my first, my first dream as a kid Was to be, I wanted to be a ballerina So when I was five, my parents took me to this Very high end ballet school here And, you know, where I grew up And they saw my feet and how high my arches were And they like fell in love with my feet I didn't know what that was And she, my ballet teacher used to show me off to other teachers And I don't know, just like, points for me I'm like, okay So it was just a natural thing So I, you know, it was kind of made to be a dancer at that time You know, since moved on from that But yeah, that's what I knew my feet were kind of special Right, because of the arch Right, exactly, because of my high arches And then getting into the foot fetish industry I realized there's so many different aspects to the foot fetish You know, there's so many different categories Just within that fetish of what guys look for And what, you know, attracts them to different types of feet And smells, and... And yes, smells And things on the feet, right? Like, I mean, it goes... And if the feet are sleeping or awake, right? I've heard sleepy feet episodes, I've done those I've done the ones where they like the foot to smell I've done the ones where they like the pantyhose on it I think when I first realized that there was... Like, they like, smelled and freaked me out I was like, ew, because I'm a very clean foot person, you know And when I was got my first... I think my first request to, like, oh, do a... They wanted to do a clip of the smelly feet, like, you know, And sneakers and stuff And I'm like, oh, you want me to smell? Oh, you know, like... But I had to grow into that Right It was a transition into growing, so to say, further and further I started learning more and more about foot fetish And then other fetishes, it just... I, you know, I evolved Yeah, you evolved to do so much more stuff, right? So at this point, you're just... It's like, COVID, you're like, I got to make a couple bucks I'm going to show my feet That's very different than going way further Than you did eventually go, right? Oh, yeah OK, so let's go through the transition So you go on there, you're just doing your feet Let me ask you this, though, before you even did this in COVID Like, in your life, were you somebody that was, like, super open-minded And experimental, like, it did a lot of things And hooked up with a lot of people? Or were you, like, a very vanilla person? I definitely would say the beginning of my young life... My young adult life I was very sexual with my partner But I was still very vanilla OK Very very vanilla And then... But I've always been a very sexual person in general All of my friends, anyone that ever knew me I used to actually sell sex toys Or they would do the sex parties When I was, you know, a young adult And my kids were young I was a mom, a very young mom So I was very much... I fell in love at 13 Had two kids And me and my baby daddy got married And, you know, he was kind of like the whole love story thing You're still with him? And... Oh, that's kind of funny Well, basically, I am technically still married But we haven't been together for, like, 12 years Oh, OK, so but it lasted for a while? I mean, you were only 13 when you met I mean, how long could that last? He still... He's still very much like... We're bonded for life Of course, for the kids, yeah Love him forever But we just went down different paths Right, of course And so... But, you know, he's still very much a part of my life And, yeah, because, you know, you can't be with someone for that long And not, you know, we know too much of each other And his family is my family Hey, this is Dan Savage, deviant of the highest order According to The Daily Caller And I'm here to talk with you about my show, The Savage Lovecast Each week I answer questions like Is it normal to come 60 or 70 times during one session? Or what should I do when my two doms give me conflicting orders? If you subscribe to the magnum version of the show You will also hear amazing guests Like Esther Perrell and Ezra Klein But you know what you don't have to listen to if you become one of my subs? Ads! 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We were... compared to like the grand scheme of things, very vanilla But if I did anything like, you know, maybe some, you know Some, you know, choking a little bit You know, we would get into certain things of that nature But nothing really hardcore, anything too weird or different, I would say It was very, very vanilla Right, and had you ever been with women before him or after? Right, okay, no After him? So when we split, it's kind of like, oh, I'm single I can go out in the world and be free And, you know, and that's when... which was about... let me preface this I grew up in Virginia, so it was a very conservative life My grandfather is my minister, grew up in the church Very, you know, gotta do things right and all those types of things Excuse me And then once I... I knew I wanted to move to Florida I moved to Florida, break up with the, you know, my husband And I... just me and my kids, me and my girls in Florida I'm single and I just went to... I just had the time of my life, basically I was like, let me just go free and party and see what that's like to be single And go on dates and things like that And that's when I discovered Tinder Oh, okay, that you went straight to Tinder? To Tinder And what were you looking for on Tinder? Just some fun Yeah, but I mean, like, is that when you... I did not want to be in a relationship That was the last thing I wanted, I was, you know, with him at that time For over 20, 20 something years at that point, almost So I just... I wanted to just have fun and enjoy my life And so I went through a long stint of just dates and different guys And I definitely had my hoe phase, as they call it And, you know, partied and did the drinking Because I didn't drink when I was younger, I had girls I had my girls, so I was more of a mom I never got to experience the hearty life and being single And so I had to go through that whole... I went through that whole transition Before I ended up, you know, COVID 2020 My life turned upside down, I totally switched it I like to say I was... I went down the rabbit hole Yeah, I could imagine Because you started out with feet, right? And that's what attracted you to Ole Vance But then once you got on there and started doing this It expanded into so much more, correct? You already said you did So why don't you go through the progression of, like, you know, how it unfolded So basically, when I started doing like some photo shoots So each producer or photographer that I worked with, each one, you know, after the other I would always learn more and more about photography in general Or also about the foot fetish What that person is attracted to with their particular foot fetish And I then started developing my own foot fetish In the sense of, like, I enjoy my feet being rubbed And, you know, I didn't realize there were certain things that I was Exploring in my own sexual life, my personal life that, oh, wow, actually Enjoying my toes being sucked, too Like, I... It does feel good It does feel good Yeah, I'm like, wait, what? Yeah, I think I like that You know? So each producer, each person I met, or, you know, and I would even date it Or, you know, if you will, a few of them And so that's how I would find out about these things And my... The one that pretty much turned, I say go down the rabbit hole I... As soon as I joined Twitter And my feet were on there The first... I immediately got a message from Joey Steed Girls And he's the biggest, you know, known producer in the foot fetish community And he had invited me for a photo shoot in Chicago And I was nervous at first So I had a fellow model actually met me up there So I'd feel more comfortable Because I'm like, what guy says that you're gonna fly you, you know, to Chicago And meet up with him at the airport, you know? No, you're smart not to go alone You know? Yeah, you gotta... You gotta... This day and age, you gotta be careful Totally I met up with another model that knew him So it was... But once I met him and he made me feel comfortable You know, communicating with me and, you know, making sure Didn't cross any boundaries, very respectful And found out me and him had a lot in common And it was just an instant connection And he... That's where I went down the rabbit hole And that's what was in Chicago At Joey Steed Girls Because that's when I learned the art of... What they call a foot job Okay So he kind of showed me that And I, you know, learned a few things there Did he show you that on him? Did he bring in another model? Oh, yeah I mean, you know, how to make the town That's basically where... Actually, I watched... I witnessed one first Okay I should say my other model... So he was shooting this as a clip And that's what he does He sells these clips on these different clip sites So he was filming another model giving him a foot job And so I got to see how, you know, it all kind of goes And I was like, I don't know if I could do that I was very unsure of myself But he was like, no, you're gonna be fine If you want to, let me know And I think he had to bring me back Another time, because I was finally like, you know what? I think I'll try it And if I was gonna try it, it was gonna be with him Because he made me feel so comfortable about it Right And that's what was in the film That's what was important to me It's like, I want someone to make me feel comfortable And because it was something brand new And it's a lot more hardcore Okay, because like I'm wondering now Because you're about to cross the line And do something a little bit Like I said, more hardcore Now, when you're showing your feet and doing this only fans Are you showing your face? Are you anonymous? Okay, so I had no problem showing my face Right, because you're just doing feet I am a beautiful person Right, right, right I am a beautiful girl Right, but I'm just saying if you were showing I was okay Yeah, but if you're showing your feet, just doing feet, right? That's one thing But now you're about to transition to like, you know A sexual act on camera Which to me is very different, you know And you are showing your face So I'm wondering like, did that come up for you? Like, you know, listen, I'm crossing the line You have kids, like people could see you You know, there's a big, I think it's a big jump And because you're already showing your face Like, how did you feel about that? So once I turned 40 in 2020 As I say, everything kind of changed in that year My girl Wow, that's a big year for a woman Yes, yes, yes It is That particular time frame, both of my girls Are already adults and have left and live in their lives So I found myself alone No man, no kids What am I going to do with myself? Right So that was also part of the journey of, you know Being at home by myself, COVID, you know Like, I want, I need to make some extra money You know, all of the above This is all happening at the same time So finding myself and learning what I want to do for me And not being afraid Like, I went through a transition of not caring what anyone thought about me Yeah, that's when it starts I want to do, yes, I went to it I want to do and I learned to say no Right, right, yeah For a woman, I think That was a big deal for me Yeah, I think for a woman especially Because listen, for you at 40 You're pretty kind of young at that age For your kids to already be up Because you had kids so young, you know But I think typically when the kids do leave the house The empty, and you get that empty nest syndrome You know, a woman does come fully back into herself Right, and it is a whole new phase of your life Everyone experiences that at different ages Right, depending on when they have kids But like, you, it is a big difference Between doing this kind of a thing When your kids are in school And you have all these mom friends And they're young 100% Then 100% I don't think I could have done any of this While I was still a mom Yeah I don't think I could have Yeah, I mean, listen I'm anonymous on my show because And none of my mom friends know Because I have a 10 year old Do you know what I mean? It's a, but it's a different story If I didn't know that Totally understandable You know what I mean Yeah Right, so that makes no, I'm glad I asked Because it makes sense You're like at this phase of your life Where you've kind of like Your kids, like you said, are older Out of your house You're 40 And listen, by the time you're 50 You're not even gonna give a shit Even more about what other people think But about 40 is when everyone stops caring What people think anyway So it really is a very pivotal time for you It is And it was very important for me also to You know, I lost making this transition And making certain choices to do this job Yeah I lost pretty much the majority Of all the friends I grew up with Or any of my close friends Oh, see, this is interesting You're kidding I was very, very social Very, very well known And I cut everyone from my life Wait, tell me why Because I found out Well, there's a few factors with that And this is over like maybe I would say the first two years of me Started it, yeah Yeah, starting in the in the foot fetish community I then was making, you know, enough money To where I was basically felt like I didn't have to add any my day job anymore And my boss at the time was just, you know, Breathing down our necks Like you, you know, sell, sell, sell And I'm like, okay, preface, I didn't say this I was a cruise consultant I was a travel agent before I did that I did that for about 20 years So my boss was like down at, you know, Coming to, throwing on our throats to sell I can't sell cruises when they're all canceling During the COVID out of a let Those are impossible So it's just, I know he had pressure But he's put that pressure on us And I felt like he's micro managing me I just, I was so stressful It's like, I'm making this money on the side So it just made sense for me to just quit And focus on the foot foot fetish full time Yeah, because listen to be very successful On any kind of platform and make real money Like you, it does become a 24 seven gig Really, you know what I mean? And so I could see, you know, at some point If you're that successful and you're making What, you know, that you would become Your only thing that you do Exactly, especially when I started traveling a lot That's what this job was doing I was traveling on these, these, you know Everyone's flying, needed different Cities all over the country I was, I was doing way more trap My passion has always been travel Yeah, interesting So you're traveling more with this Than when you were traveling Exactly, exactly So interesting Exactly So it just, it just, it just felt like this was Definitely the path for me And that's what I was supposed to be doing Right And I was, I was meeting different people And different, different cultures Different personalities And I, you know, going through all these different Learning about fetishes and, you know Things that I like, don't like Those, all of these things are all happening So it was such a big change That it changed my schedule, let's say at home When I have all these, the friend groups All these different friends And people in my life And it was hard to keep up with the schedules And come to people's birthday parties And, you know, I'm not, I'm missing this And I'm missing that and, you know And then I became the talk of the conversation You know, they caught, oh Living vicariously through me I felt like I was like the show and tell portion of Of the, of the group, the friend group Every time we get together Because they knew what you were doing Because they knew what you were doing Okay Correct Yeah, these are like my close friends So of course they're gonna do everything Yeah And then I found out they were talking behind my back In a negative way So they were secretly judging Like they were asking you a lot of questions But they were also judging you behind your back How do you find out, by the way? Other, because other friends are telling on the other friends Oh my god, we can't fucking trust anyone Yeah, and then, and then of course When I approached the one friend No, I never said that And I'm like And during all of this I went through two different very, very, uh, difficult, uh, deaths in my family So going through grief Trying to navigate a new career And maintain any kind of relationship Right I, I just cut everybody I couldn't take the drama Yeah, I was gonna say It puts things in, it puts things in perspective Stuff like that That, that petty shit with your friends It's like it lives too short for this kind of nonsense It's not cool, you know what I mean? 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So like by the time you made that shift to like not just showing your feet But doing the foot jobs and we're going to start back from that point, right? You were like okay with like you were at that point Where you didn't care what people thought, right? Like you didn't, you were just going to own it And you were fine with what you were doing And you were going to cross the line And you were okay with keeping your face on it And going way further Well, it was important to me to also I wanted my girls to see that even That they could be independent, strong women And make decisions for themselves Whatever it is And don't worry about what anybody thinks of you Right It was very important for me to show that to them And not feel like they have to depend on a man Don't look to being dependent on a man Because I did that with their dad Yeah For a long time So it was very important for me to show that, you know Side of sticking up for yourself And what you want and what you believe is it is important And And because that was one of the things that they were saying behind my back Oh, what kind of influence is she's showing her daughters? Yeah, of course You know, like I'm showing them that they could be strong independent women Right You know, that was where that came from And I'm still very much a spiritual person I still believe in God I still, you know, there's That doesn't take away from me having some type of You know, I don't call myself religious But you know, having some spiritual You know, nobody just because you do certain things doesn't mean that you're going to help You know You're morally bankrupt It just, you know, where you make your own rules I don't believe like I think everybody does believe that they are the moral police for everybody, right? But nobody really is like I feel like everybody creates those kinds of boundaries for them like rules for themselves, right? You you have your own boundaries where somebody else has theirs, you know, and nobody can judge It's a matter of like to me It's like I would only judge the person that's doing it That's you know, afterwards feeling completely guilty and judging themselves and that's the problem, right? But if you feel clear about it and it is okay with you Then it is okay, do you know what I mean? Because you make those things up for yourself You know what I'm saying? It's the people that do the things that they feel bad about that's a problem You know and plenty of people do stuff like that, right? And that's the problem But you're not you're doing something and you feel very clear about it and you're okay about it Yes, and that's what I wanted to that was the whole point. We tried to portray that not just to my girls But just any you know Anyone that it can be a positive thing doesn't have to be a negative and right That was that was an important message for me to get across right. I love that that's and like I said I don't I don't believe that anyone else can judge you or tell you You know what you can or cannot do it's a matter of what what you think So okay, so you give your first so you go back after this guy invites you back And you do you do your first foot job with with him? I do he was the very first one. I made a a video with and and and I was so nervous Nervous and when I think about it now, of course, it's like it's like oh how adorable You know But yeah, he you know, he was showing me how basically To use my arches to my advantage I learned what a the fourth hole meant That is the fourth hole. It's basically It's when you put your feet together Oh The two arches you two arches and it creates a hole there and you can now of course You can you can make it smaller. You can make it bigger. You know, you have enough. Oh, wow. I didn't know that was the fourth hole like you know, just Mind blown Listen, I'm telling you I've been doing my show for 12 years. I've never heard of the fourth hole either It always blows my mind that I still learn new things after all this time They've got fourth hole or this it's also called the foot pussy. Oh really? Yeah, so oh my god, it's so funny So yeah, so that was that was very uh, and then there's also different positions. So Uh, I had to learn, you know One one step at a time, you know, there's different techniques over time Of course, everybody has different skills because everybody's Foot isn't necessarily the same like not everybody has high arches, right? Some people have very long toes, right like finger toes So those are you know, those can like grab a little bit more like fingers I don't my toes aren't very long but they I my my strong suit is my arches. So I just use those to my advantage and tried to learn the skills as best I could for each You know every time I was doing it. I did one. I learned more and more over the years So that's just what I became known for right and then how did that progress? So I think it was shortly after that I got introduced to different fetishes And the next one was uh tickling And I had one I haven't had a tickle fetish person on for a long time, but I've had it before I know about it Yes, yes, and I was like Interesting right? I think about it. I'm like, you know what this makes total sense Because how many times yeah, how many times are you sitting with a guy and this is like, you know, you're a teenager whatever you're, you know Hormones are flowing and how many times are you making out and a guy just tickles you totally? You know, it's like foreplay. Yeah And I didn't it was like two and two didn't like match until I started doing the tickling and then realizing that I Enjoy it. Oh, you know, there's there's different certain tickling spots. That's like, you know, that does actually turn me on And I'm a very ticklish person So I very much fit very well into that fetish so then of course I started getting hired from tickling producers and Doing a lot of that as far as work goes and then it turned into face sitting Oh, interesting. You know when you've got a when you've got a big booty, you know, people like the big booties right So then I started doing face sitting and that had nothing to do with and that's nothing to do with feet right now You're just progressing totally. Well, technically it is okay. So tickling face sitting and see all kind of in or twice Okay, so for example with the tickling tickling feet feet tickling go hand in hand And then with the face sitting as you're sitting on someone's face. It's a lot of like smothering right and sometimes it's about smells So the face sitting is your you know, your behind's a little close to your feet. You can use them both that way There's it's all kind of goes in together and then also if someone's into all three They could be tickling you while you're face sitting. There's different There's different aspects to each one and you can combine them so That also was a learning curve Finding out that I you know and then bondage also plays into the tickling Uh, you know because for me because I when I I don't know about you, but if you're getting tickled I'm kind of wailing a little bit, you know, my feet are going my arms are going right So I need to be I need to be like strapped out. Yeah You reminded me of a boyfriend that I had that used to make me sit on his lap He'd hold my arms behind him and like trap them and then he'd tickle the shit out of me when I Yeah Exactly Totally Yeah, because otherwise someone's gonna lose an eye or uh, you know, they're gonna kick in the balls or something Yeah, yeah, you gotta you gotta be careful and so yeah, I I had my first experience having my feet In what they call stocks And it's that it's a wooden it's usually wooden you put your feet through it and it kind of closes And so your feet, you know, they do all these they use all these different tools to tickle your feet like feathers and Brushes like hair brushes. Yeah, toothbrushes. Oh, that's that's the vibrating toothbrush It's my Achilles heel like it is it's my kryptonite it. Oh man So did you so you're learning that you like these things as well? Right? I mean you are doing it for content. It did start out with like I needed some extra cash But because you were so like with one guy for so long and now you're kind of experiencing all these things Are you learning stuff about yourself of like what you kind of enjoy in the bad room and all that kind of stuff as well? I would have my assume. Yeah. Yes. Yes Um, because then, you know, when I like like in certain relationships, I was in with involving, you know fetish one of the things I learned with face sitting For example, uh, I I didn't really do too much, you know in my vanilla life When I was in a relationship. I had a guy who actually like enjoyed eating My ass. Yes. Oh my god. That's a thing He's like, yeah sit on my face. I'm like, okay Oh my god, like so that was a whole another mind-blowing You know, uh experience and I was like, oh, well, I really like that. Yeah, you know, so Again, just learning all these new things. It's like, wow, this is I don't feel like I was living my life before like, you know, that's kind of how I felt. Yeah, right, you know Whole new world opened up. Mm-hmm And of different things, uh, you know, like the tickling realizing like certain places on my body I do enjoy like being like lightly tickled things like that, you know with with again tossing salad eating my ass, whatever you want to call it. Yeah, you know in the bedroom things like that, you know I then was like, oh, I think I can I can really make really, you know, creative content So that just all went into one on my, you know, my only fans my other it's not just only fans That's when I discovered obviously there's other platforms that I could be putting my content on So I discovered other websites like loyal fans and Then there's clips for sale and and then I could have my own websites. So I started creating, you know, creating a brand and So I was actually known as heavenly toes. Oh, interesting. How did it switch to experience? Yes, because I I give an experience because I don't just do feet now. I do Multiple fetishes and then I I found out that I'm really good at burping. That was another one I I do a lot of burping content. Oh my god. Can you believe? I couldn't believe and I'm like, well, listen, I'd be doing this on the regular Make money from it And and sneezing is another one Are you kidding? No, no, there's sneezing. There's belly worship. And so I was like, well, I definitely got a belly So, you know, like I said, I was like every time I turned around it was something I was like, oh, wow, I could do that Right, you know and listen bbw is a fetish, right? I mean a lot of guys are very into that Yes, and I hello. Yeah, I was like, well if I'm gonna be You know bigger if you will. Yeah, and I don't really feel like working out I'll be okay Totally okay. Yeah, so it all it it all kind of went to mesh together to where I could be me fully me and I could still Uh, you know make a living and and I wouldn't have to Put up a front or put up, you know, like I didn't have to be somebody I wasn't and you know be fake if you will or I worry about, you know My boss, you know, I'm my own boss, right? So it was it was a level of freedom I uh Had to learn how to even adjust to because I wasn't used to it. Yeah, I can imagine. Mm-hmm Yeah, it was a lot of adjusting Yeah, it was and learning and you know, just like when you go to any job you go through like a training Yeah, it's different also when you run your own business Like you said it eventually becomes a brand and then you're just dealing with other like the freedom is really great But then you have other things that you have to deal with that you would never have Thought of if you didn't own your own business, right that comes with that and everything, you know But I think at the end of the day I do the same like you I run my own show and I I prefer it You know, there is a freedom to that but there's also all this stuff of like everything's on your back, you know What about like did you eventually start having like full on sex on camera? Do you keep it very PG like how did you like how did that progress for you? Okay, so I started doing more like a solo Fatty stuff right. Yeah, like make it like I do look masturbation. Maybe some self worship like self foot worship You know Being comfortable enough to be nude on camera and be confident up to because that's a big deal in itself Right being able to be confident in your body and to know, you know what? I'm gonna make this sexy even if I am a BBW right and and because you know, I think most women think oh, you got to be perfect to be on camera and you know I couldn't I Don't want to be exposed that way. It's you know, and their confidence level is not that high But I learned to love myself and be comfortable in my skin And I know and it all started because that's what the fans asked for right that's how it starts Because they're like, oh, can you do this? Can you you know, they they they purchase customs? They're like, okay. Well, I can you make a film Where you're you know, you're naked and you're you start worshiping your own feet and I was like, oh my gosh Can I even do that? You know, right or and I said that's how it starts, you know, and then oh more and more people want to see that And so then you start okay, let me try that I didn't start thinking of doing any type of sexual Sexual encounters on camera with like anyone else until they started asking for like girl girl girl and girl foot worship And then that was when okay. I think I could do that and you know That's how it started opening up from that point on Instagram teen accounts with automatic protections on who can contact teenagers and the content they can see Instagram teen accounts have contact limits on by default So teenagers get messages from people they know not strangers And default content settings Plus teenagers under 16 can't change these default settings without parental approval So parents can help teenagers connect safely Learn more at instagram.com slash teen accounts And then I would I started with girl girl because I wasn't ready I thought I had you right, but at that point had you ever been with a woman? Yes, briefly in my uh vanilla life horrible experience. I might have Right another story horrible experience, but I I have always been uh attracted to women and I have I have always said I feel like I am a I don't I don't like to consider myself like you know heterosexual or bi I just I like people and I and I and I don't like uh If I meet someone and I'm attracted to them I go with it and I have had you know So a few women in my life that I have had those types of feelings for but I've never ever had a relationship Right with one, but yes, I definitely very attracted to women and definitely enjoy having sex with women as I grew more into Uh this world because I've definitely been with more women since I've been in the fetish Community and and I do feel uh very comfortable more comfortable working with a female talent versus a male talent, you know just in general I think You know, I think my fans 100% love the girl on girl. Hello, right Especially because they're into the feet so if they've got more feet and In to look at then it's the more the merrier kind of thing and then of course you're making it sexual We're naked it just heightens up that that much more So that was like kind of the gateway into me doing more sexual things on camera Was the foot was the double foot thing with the woman, right? And that turned into sex Right, then it was you know, because oh we're worshiping each other's feet and then it just then evolves into other body parts Basically, and that's what because that's you know, ultimately that's what they wanted to see right and then I because I wasn't they would still ask me. Oh, I want to see I want to see you get fucked You know of course they're saying that and I'm like, I don't know, you know I wasn't I wasn't ready in the beginning, you know, that wasn't something I wanted to do on camera And it took I think about three years Yeah, I think about three years me being in the fetish community for a little bit Then I started thinking I started seeing other Colleagues of mine other models and the industry Go, you know going into the adult industry doing corn and and I was and I'd see like what they're doing and I I've watched them for a while And I just I had friends that I just looked up to and they were just so inspirational and and then and knowing that part of the industry A little bit before I would even dive into it. Do I even want to do that, you know kind of thing? Mm-hmm, and then it just you know, it took some time But then yeah, I finally did decide that I was going to do some boy girl, but I was like if I'm gonna do it I'm gonna I'm I'm gonna do it with some like a someone that matters, you know, like I don't want to just be joe schmo You know that nobody knows I wanted I wanted to be someone who has like a name someone who's known Oh, okay. That's interesting, you know a professional. I want to be with a professional Experienced, you know, I only wanted to work with the best not someone who's new, you know that kind of thing So because I knew enough people and did enough networking Over the you know that I think at that time like I said, I think I mean like in it like three years at that point I started meeting different people and I was like, okay, well if I'm gonna do it You're gonna be one of my you're gonna be like one of my first people I do it with because I did get asked quite a few times And I was just always like no, I don't do that kind of content I'll let you know if I do And if but if you want to do any foot any foot foot fetish content, let me know and of course They didn't so I had to you know wait until I was comfortable and then there was a few people I had in mind and There's this show called abn and vagus And it's like basically the it's like the porn awards. It's like I guess the Oscars for the for for uh, Porn stars And uh, everybody was like, oh, you should you know if you're gonna, you know Get into it. You should do it for the first time at at avn and I was like, you know what that'll be Great perfect. So then I started planning for that and had my roster picked my the male talents I wanted and uh, that's where I started into 2024 January of 2024 was when I did my very first boy girl scenes And and that was when I started my journey into the adult entertainment center industry apart from the fetish community and Ultimately, I did enjoy it and it's it's a lot of fun. I still do it from time, you know I still I still have that in my roster, but I still consider myself 100 number one and always will A fetish model right and is that what you prefer? Do you enjoy doing it on camera with the guys too? I do but I'm very picky with who I work with and I still Try to incorporate the foot fetish into the uh into the into the content. It's as well. So it's of course kind of all encompassing Yeah, because that's what my clients clients. Sorry my fans. Yeah, really want to see they want to see the the the foot They still want to because of yeah, they want to see me get fucked, of course Because they wish they could of course they also want to see, you know different positions that Accentuate my feet, you know So there's still that aspect of it and incorporating the different fetishes and with the sex, you know Sucking on my toes. Well, I'm you know, they're you know, they're making love to me at the same time Like that's a very Intent sexual moment and getting that on camera. They that they love that stuff. They just absolutely love it so Those are like some of my bigger sellers is is is those types of scenes, but I don't like to be Uh, what do you call like I don't want that to be all of my content You don't want to be bound to it. You don't want to start just doing that exclusively. You really enjoy the other stuff the most Right. Yes. Yeah, there are there are there are some of my fans actually don't want to see me naked And they don't want to see sex. They just want to see my feet Right. Yeah, of course. Yeah, so there's like, you know, I got a cater to You know, everyone and I try to you know, make sure that I don't lose anyone either You know, so I try to Kind of keep it in the middle if I can and that's what I don't do too much boy girl And if I do it's very very, you know I it's quality if you will I don't you know, do too much as people who that are not known I because I only like to work with professional people How did you wind up on livi's tour? So she's just having a whole bunch of different kinds of content creators that are filming stuff, right? Is that what it's about? Yeah, it's gonna be like a behind the scenes. Look just Yeah, right. Yeah, that's cool. I'm super excited about because so I've never done a Any type of like content house or any type of like, uh, like all female content house all female like Like this many girls as like in a quote unquote a tour, right? Yeah So she I've known livi for a little while and we definitely when we met First of all, we met obviously through uh, internet, right? Love each other's content. I knew I definitely wanted to work with her And you know, it's kind of over time It finally kind of happened the minute we met in person We just clicked and I knew we would be great together So we stayed in touch and you know, just like minded individuals she came up with this idea and I just fucking thought it was amazing I was like, yes, she's like, you know, they've got the hot wise. You got the milfs, you know, but what about the auntie? You know, I was like, yeah, what about the auntie? Yes, right the guys want to fuck the auntie too So, you know, I was like, this is a great is a great uh concept and she's told me what she you know Her whole vision and I immediately was like, yeah, let's do it. Let's recruit some girls and that's what we did and She she's she's the the brilliant mind behind it all. I'm just helping her execute whatever I can and I'm just I'm totally here for all of it and she's you know, basically putting us girls together to Make some it's like a reality show in a sense. You're gonna have the cameras rolling At different parts of the house. I think the whole time, you know, we're gonna be going live Uh different on different platforms So our fans can get a look at you know, what we go through behind the scenes before You know, we we had to turn the cameras on to work and after Exactly. Yeah. Yes the before and after. Yep and the morning and everything. Yeah, it's super interesting. Listen. I'm obsessed with reality tv I have always like reality tv even when it was like embarrassing to like reality tv I don't give a fuck what anyone said. I love that kind of shit because it's real I don't care what anyone says. I like real shit and I have to tell you especially because I do my show and I do Have content creators like you on all the time I know that like when I air their episodes a lot of times like the fans do you want to know about Other parts of your life, right? They feel like they know you anyway, right when they're really consuming your content stuff But they're just seeing like the sex stuff in the feet and everything But they really want more right? So I do think like so like I said when I air an episode and they're going to hear all this Like personal stuff that you're talking about it just like your audience is get your fans are going to love Hearing that stuff and and that's the same thing about what she's doing Like all that extra stuff really digging into your life Outside of the stuff they already get is going to be super interesting for your fans for all of your fans. Yes Because yes, you're very much correct in the fact that you know, uh My fans get they get to know you. Yeah, they see a certain version of you, right? And then but they don't always get to see Behind the scenes all the time or oh wow you Oh, I didn't know you ate that type of food or I didn't know you were allergic to this or I didn't know You know, there's different aspects and then those fans actually some especially your loyal real fans They'll pay attention to that And oh her favorite flower is a calla lily. You know what? I'm going to send her some flowers or you know Or you know what? I know she likes this call. This is her her favorite colors blue So they'll go somewhere on my amazon wish list and they'll buy me something, you know, like there's they listen to certain things And because they know it means, you know, they want it. They want to impress us Yeah, for sure And the more they know the more they can impress you it's just another Thing right and they feel closer to you because of this the stuff So it really is like it really is beneficial on so many levels It doesn't just benefit you guys it benefits all your guys fans Now I think she said the first one you guys are going to hit off is in Miami, correct? Yes, it's going to be for ex biz miami, um, which is coming up on may uh 10th to the 14th. They believe Yeah, so that's it Yes, yes around the corner and I have a lot to do still I have not even done Because I just came from another convention. I just got home last night from chicago And from exotica and chicago. Oh, they had exotica chicago Yes, and that was a blast. I had so much fun this weekend and I did a few things I hadn't ever done before like what So, I mean i'm wrapping it up, but i'm like if you if you could be quirk Oh my god, so yeah, I did a I worked with a producer who Uh, I was giving him a foot job and while I was giving him a foot job He's tickling my feet at the same time Mm-hmm. That was such a that was that was definitely first time for me and it was definitely interesting I was and it was awesome. Uh, uh, so that was that was the first I also did a double pegging scene with uh with a Female talent and it's also my friend that I've been dying to work with for forever like just us So it was like kind of a bucket list check So this weekend was really really awesome. I had a great time in chicago and so now I can focus on Miami Yeah, there you go. I have a I also have a tour coming up as well With a few of my other close friends in california So I've got a few things coming up. I have to concentrate on now that chicago's done Well, give out all your information of where everyone could keep track of all this stuff and where they could find you And you're gonna have to send me some pics for my patreon I always say are rated for patreon then you'll get free access to you'll get access to my discord And you could post there and do whatever you want over there that you could get x-rated there put up clips Whatever you want that's a private discord and I have like 6 000 people on there And there's a content creator section so you know feel free to promote whatever you want and you go put your links in your Profile there for sure But send me pics for my patreon those have to be like r rated because it's patreon But give a shout out to all your stuff and I could put like an all all links or something in the description But why don't you tell people and people that are driving? I'll have like, you know I'll put this stuff in the description but to help people where they could find out all the information I think you said you have a website and a twitter I have a website. It's a it's heavenly experience And experience is it's spelled with an x and not an e And uh, you can find me on a heavenly experience.com That is my website and that is kind of like an ongoing Under construction, but you can also finally find me on x and that was heavenly xp8 And then I'm also on instagram Which is heavenly dot xp8 Those two are my social media outlets that most that most people do uh find me on But I like to communicate sometimes through telegram And again, you can finally it's heavenly experience with an x Make just make sure you put the x instead of an e and you'll find me now. How do they find you on only fans? Same thing heavenly experience. Okay with the next you'll find me. Okay, great people are going to go looking for you heavenly Yeah, for sure I'll tag you and everything so your people could listen to your episode because they're going to love like all this like Stuff that you said. I think it was like your whole journey was like super interesting Where you've been where you came from and all that kind of good stuff So thanks so much for calling in make sure to send me your links in your picks asap Okay, so I know that I have them. I'll probably like I said post you and livi around the same time, right? Definitely before you're the first one kicks off, you know, so just get me that stuff before So I like as soon as possible. So I just know that I have it for when your episode airs. Okay Absolutely. All right. Awesome. This was fun talking to you. Thank you so much. Thanks. Heavenly. Have a good day. Thank you Bye. Bye. 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