The Rundown

Palantir Crushes Earnings, Apple in Talks with Intel

11 min
May 5, 202625 days ago
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Summary

The Rundown covers Palantir's exceptional earnings beat with 85% revenue growth and raised guidance, but the stock barely moved due to high valuation concerns. Apple is in early talks with Intel and Samsung to diversify chip manufacturing away from TSMC due to supply constraints and Taiwan geopolitical risks. Additional coverage includes Pinterest's earnings turnaround, Duolingo's growth slowdown, and Michael Burry's exit from GameStop.

Insights
  • Strong earnings growth alone is insufficient for stock appreciation when valuations are already stretched; Palantir's 85% revenue growth failed to move the stock due to 97x P/E multiple
  • Supply chain diversification is becoming a strategic imperative for tech giants facing both capacity constraints and geopolitical risks, particularly regarding Taiwan dependency
  • Companies prioritizing long-term user growth over near-term monetization face investor skepticism, as evidenced by Duolingo's 8% drop despite beating earnings
  • AI competition concerns are dampening investor enthusiasm even for high-growth software companies, with concerns that cheaper AI alternatives could disrupt traditional platforms
  • Government contracts remain a significant growth driver for defense-tech companies, with Palantir's government revenue up 84% and new billion-dollar deals secured
Trends
Geopolitical supply chain risk mitigation becoming standard corporate strategy in semiconductor and advanced manufacturingAI-driven disruption concerns creating valuation ceiling for traditional software companies despite strong fundamentalsGovernment spending on defense and AI infrastructure accelerating, particularly for battlefield command and data integration systemsTaiwan geopolitical risk driving semiconductor manufacturing diversification and reshoring initiatives in the USPost-earnings stock reactions increasingly decoupled from financial performance when valuations are elevated or guidance disappointsAdvertiser spending resilience despite macro headwinds like tariffs and geopolitical tensionsUser retention and long-term product quality prioritized over short-term monetization by growth-stage platformsSemiconductor manufacturing capacity constraints persisting due to AI chip demand from NVIDIA, AMD, and other major players
Topics
Palantir Earnings and ValuationApple Supply Chain DiversificationTSMC Manufacturing DependencyTaiwan Geopolitical RiskSemiconductor Supply ConstraintsAI Competition in SoftwareGovernment Defense ContractsIntel Manufacturing ReinventionPinterest Advertising PlatformDuolingo Monetization StrategyGameStop eBay Acquisition BidBitcoin Price RecoveryIran-US Geopolitical TensionsTreasury Yield MovementsTrump Administration Chip Policy
Companies
Palantir Technologies
Reported blowout earnings with 85% YoY revenue growth to $1.6B and quadrupled net income, but stock barely moved due ...
Apple
In early talks with Intel and Samsung to diversify chip manufacturing away from TSMC due to supply constraints and Ta...
Intel
In talks with Apple to manufacture chips; stock up 10% on partnership potential; CEO Lip Bhutan leading reinvention a...
Samsung
In early talks with Apple to manufacture chips as alternative to TSMC for iPhone and Mac processors
TSMC
Currently manufactures virtually all Apple Silicon chips; facing capacity constraints from AI chip demand and represe...
Pinterest
Beat earnings expectations with 18% sales growth to $1B and raised Q2 guidance, ending five-quarter losing streak; st...
Duolingo
Beat revenue and earnings but tanked 8% after forecasting sharp slowdown in bookings growth as it prioritizes user re...
GameStop
Made $56B bid to acquire eBay despite being worth only $12B; Michael Burry dumped entire stake citing excessive debt ...
eBay
Received unsolicited $56B acquisition bid from GameStop; company reviewing the offer
NVIDIA
Major consumer of TSMC manufacturing capacity for AI chips, contributing to semiconductor supply constraints
AMD
Major consumer of TSMC manufacturing capacity for AI chips, contributing to semiconductor supply constraints
Anthropic
Mentioned as potential AI competitor that could offer cheaper alternatives to Palantir's software offerings
OpenAI
Mentioned as potential AI competitor that could offer cheaper alternatives to Palantir's software offerings
Meta
Mentioned as major digital advertising platform competing with Pinterest for advertiser spending
Google
Mentioned as major digital advertising platform competing with Pinterest for advertiser spending
Amazon
Mentioned as major digital advertising platform competing with Pinterest for advertiser spending
U.S. Department of Homeland Security
Signed $1B contract with Palantir for data integration and analysis services
U.S. Department of Agriculture
Signed $300M contract with Palantir for data integration and analysis services
Berkshire Hathaway
Referenced as the type of company Michael Burry believed Ryan Cohen would transform GameStop into
People
Zaid Admani
Host of The Rundown daily market update podcast providing analysis of earnings and market trends
Alex Karp
Pushed back on narrative that AI will disrupt Palantir, arguing their infrastructure connects AI models to company da...
Tim Cook
Discussed on earnings call chip supply constraints that could take several months to reach balance
Lip Bhutan
New CEO leading Intel's reinvention as chip manufacturer; winning Apple's business would validate strategy
Michael Burry
Dumped entire GameStop stake citing excessive debt required for $56B eBay acquisition bid breaks his investment thesis
Ryan Cohen
Led GameStop's $56B bid to acquire eBay; Michael Burry invested expecting him to build Berkshire Hathaway-type company
Quotes
"All that growth seems to be priced in already."
Zaid AdmaniPalantir segment
"Palantir won't be replaced because their infrastructure is what connects the AI models to a company's actual data and decision-making systems."
Alex Karp (paraphrased)Palantir segment
"TSMC can't make enough chips for Apple. There's so much manufacturing demand for AI chips right now from NVIDIA and AMD and others."
Zaid AdmaniApple segment
"Apple is doing the smart thing by trying to diversify their supply chain and not be so reliant on just one company."
Zaid AdmaniApple segment
"The level of debt required to pull off this eBay deal completely breaks his thesis."
Zaid Admani (on Michael Burry)GameStop segment
Full Transcript
Public.com presents The Rundown, your daily market update in 10 minutes. My name is Zaid Admani, and today is Tuesday, May 5th. In today's episode, I'm breaking down Palantir's blowout earnings and why investors are questioning the company's valuation. I'll also tell you why Apple is in talks with Intel and Samsung to make its chips. Then stick around to the end of the show to find out why Michael Burry just dumped his entire GameStop state. We got a great show for you today. Let's go. Stocks pulled back a bit on Monday after Iran reminded everyone that the war is still happening. The S&P 500 dropped 0.4%, the Nasdaq fell by 0.2%, and the Dow dropped by over 1%, but nobody cares about the Dow. So, you know, for the last few weeks, the market has mostly treated the Iran war like background noise. I think investors were convinced that a diplomatic solution would be the likely outcome. But yesterday, we got the biggest flare up since the ceasefire started nearly a month ago. Now, the good news is that the ceasefire is still technically holding as of this morning, and oil prices are cooling off a bit after Monday's spike. The bad news, though, is that oil is still 50% higher than it was before the war started, and that continues to hang over the market. Also, the 10-year treasury yield hit 4.45% yesterday, which is the highest level since July. So the bond market is starting to get nervous too. But despite all of that, though, the stock market isn't really freaking out. The market continues to be resilient. Also, I want to talk about Bitcoin real quick because we're starting to see some signs of life again. The price of Bitcoin is back above $80,000 for the first time since early July. Prices have gone up 17% over the past month. Now, Bitcoin would need to rally another 50% from here to get back to all-time highs. So there's still a long way to go, but at least there's some momentum now. So I'm going to keep my eye on Bitcoin again, along with the situation in the Middle East, plus all the earnings that we're getting this week. So definitely get subscribed to the podcast and tune in every day to stay in the loop. Let's run through some headlines, starting with Palantir. Palantir reported earnings last night, and the numbers were incredible across the board revenues were up 85% year over year to $1.6 billion. That's the fastest growth rate Palantir has had since they went public in 2020 net income quadrupled to $876 million. Their margins are over 50%. I mean, this company beat on literally every key metric and not just that Palantir also raised its full year revenue outlook to billion which is up from the billion they guided just a few months ago Government contracts continue to be a big part of Palantir's business. Government revenue jumped 84% to $687 million. They also recently locked in a billion dollar deal with Homeland Security and a $300 million deal with the Department of Agriculture. It seems like the war in Iran has also been good for Palantir's business, their Maven system, which is a battlefield command platform, has seen usage quadruple in the past year. But beyond just government contracts, the commercial side of their business is also crushing it. The U.S. commercial revenue came in at $595 million, which was up 133% from last year. But you know, despite everything that I just said, Palantir's stock has barely moved following the earnings report. In fact, their stock is down around 1% at the time of this recording. And if you zoom out, the stock has declined around 13% so far this year. The thing is, Palantir trades at 97 times earnings, which is a pretty rich valuation. So the bar for Palantir is very high. So even when the company is growing at their fastest pace ever, it's not good enough for investors. All that growth seems to be priced in already. And the other overhang for the stock is the broader fear on Wall Street that AI is going to disrupt the software industry. Companies like Anthropic and OpenAI could eventually offer cheaper alternatives to what Palantir does. Now, CEO Alex Karp pushed back on that narrative. His argument is that Palantir won't be replaced because their infrastructure is what connects the AI models to a company's actual data and decision-making systems. Big picture question for investors though, is if Palantir can keep growing fast enough and long enough to justify their valuation. Again, the fact that their stock barely moved after blowout earnings kind of makes you question what the upside is. To be fair though, the stock has gone up 7x in the past two years, so long-term holders are doing just fine. Let's shift gears and talk about Apple. Bloomberg is reporting that Apple is in early talks with Intel and Samsung about making chips for the iPhone and Mac here in the US. See, for the last decade plus, Apple has relied on TSMC to manufacture their Apple Silicon chips. TSMC makes virtually all the processors that go into your iPhone, your Mac, your iPad. I mean, they're the best in the world at it. But the reason that Apple is looking for an alternative is for two reasons. For one, TSMC can't make enough chips for Apple. There's so much manufacturing demand for AI chips right now from NVIDIA and AMD and others who all rely on TSMC to make their chips that there is a shortage of chips right now Tim Cook talked about this on the in the earnings call last week say that it could take several months to reach a supply balance So that one reason that Apple is looking for a backup manufacturer The other reason though is the Taiwan risk See, TSMC's main factories are in Taiwan, and if China ever decides to make a move on Taiwan that shuts down manufacturing, Apple's entire supply chain could get disrupted overnight. So, you know, Apple is doing the smart thing by trying to diversify their supply chain and not be so reliant on just one company. Now, we'll have to see if Intel and Samsung can manufacture at the level that TSMC does. Intel has been trying to reinvent themselves as a chip manufacturer under their new CEO, Lip Bhutan, who took over last year. And winning Apple's business would be the ultimate validation. There's also a political angle here because working with Intel could help Apple's relationship with the Trump administration. Because remember, the administration invested in Intel last year and views them as a key piece to bring back advanced chip manufacturing in the US. But I should stress here that talks are still in the very early stages. Apple hasn't placed any orders yet. In fact, Apple is apparently concerned about whether Intel or Samsung can match TSMC's quality. But investors seem to be pretty hyped about a possible partnership. Intel stock is up around 10% this morning at the time of this recording. By the way, the Trump administration invested in Intel at around $20 a share back in August. And now the stock is trading at over $100 a share. Let's talk about some stocks. making moves today. Pinterest shares are surging this morning after the company delivered a better than expected earnings report, beating on both top line and bottom line. Sales jumped 18% to just over $1 billion. The company also lifted its Q2 revenue guidance. Here's the thing about Pinterest. Prior to this period, Pinterest had missed earnings for five straight quarters, but that losing streak has finally come to an end. You know, a few months ago, Pinterest said that Trump's tariffs were hurting its advertising business. So the fact that they posted a beat and raise guidance tells you advertisers are still spending on the platform despite macro headwinds like tariffs and the Iran war and competitive pressures from major digital platforms like Meta, Google, and Amazon. Pinterest stock is up around 14% this morning at the time of this recording. Now on the flip side, shares of Duolingo are tanking despite the company beating on revenue and earnings. Revenues came in at $292 million ahead of estimates and daily active users grew 21% to 56.5 million. On paper, that looks fine. But the language learning app spooked investors by projecting a sharp slowdown in bookings growth as it prioritizes user retention over near monetization Duolingo is forecasting just a 10 bookings growth for 2026 That down from a 33 growth they had in 2025 See, Duolingo is deliberately pulling back on monetization tricks like pushing ads and subscription upsells, and instead focusing on making the product better and growing the user base long-term. But based on the reaction from the stock, investors aren't willing to wait this one out. Shares of Duolingo are down around 8% at the time of this recording, and the stock has dropped 80% over the past year. Last up, I have to mention GameStop here. Shares dropped 10% yesterday and they're down again this morning after Michael Burry dumped his entire stake in the company after GameStop made a $56 billion bid to buy eBay despite GameStop only being worth $12 billion themselves. See, Michael Burry invested in GameStop back in January because he thought that CEO Ryan Cohn would turn GameStop into a Berkshire Hathaway type company. But now he's out on the stock saying that the level of debt required to pull off this eBay deal completely breaks his thesis. Either way, eBay responded on Monday saying that it would review the offer. So we'll see what ends up happening. Let's wrap the show with a fun fact. The Devil Wears Prada 2 absolutely crushed it at the box office this past weekend. The movie pulled in $77 million domestically and $234 million globally in just three days. The sequel has already made 72% of what the original movie made during its entire theatrical run back in 2006. And look, this is why Hollywood continues to reboot existing IP and lean on sequels. These sequels absolutely print money. I think we're going to see Hollywood continue to milk millennial nostalgia. And by the way, this movie became like a huge event, especially for women. My wife went to go see it with a bunch of her friends at the theaters, and she said that it was packed with moviegoers all dressed up like they were attending the Met Gala or something. Now, as for the movie itself, my wife said that it wasn't as good as the first one, which I kind of expected. I mean, the first movie is a masterpiece, so it's kind of hard to top that. But I bet you they're going to make a Devil Wears Prada 3 after seeing how much money the second one made. Well, all right, guys, that's the rundown for today. Hope you guys enjoyed today's episode. If you did and you have like five extra seconds, consider giving us a five-star rating on Apple, Spotify, YouTube, wherever you listen to your podcasts. All that engagement really does help us out and it helps other people find the show. Thank you guys so much for listening, watching, and commenting. Shout out to Mike and Connor for all the work behind the scenes. And we'll see you guys back here tomorrow.