The Chimp Says "Hold My Banana."
36 min
•Feb 27, 2026about 2 months agoSummary
Armstrong and Getty discuss a major standoff between the Pentagon and AI company Anthropic over military use of AI technology, including concerns about autonomous weapons and surveillance. The hosts also interview California gubernatorial candidate Steve Hilton about his campaign against Democratic leadership, and debate corporate jargon that professionals use to sound important.
Insights
- AI companies are establishing ethical boundaries around military applications that conflict with Pentagon demands, creating a precedent for corporate resistance to government pressure on emerging technology
- The concentration of cutting-edge AI capabilities in private hands creates a governance dilemma: companies may be more cautious stewards than government bureaucrats, but government seizure could undermine both innovation and safety
- Young adult mortality from heart attacks has surged 57% since 2011, correlating with obesity and drug use trends that originated in childhood, suggesting a delayed public health crisis reaching critical age groups
- California's political dysfunction stems from entrenched special interests (public unions, trial attorneys) that Democratic candidates cannot credibly challenge despite acknowledging the same problems as Republican challengers
- Corporate jargon serves as tribal signaling and credibility assertion rather than communication efficiency, with phrases like 'bandwidth' and 'circle back' creating in-group/out-group dynamics in professional settings
Trends
AI governance conflict: Private sector ethical guardrails vs. government military integration demandsPentagon AI militarization: Expanding autonomous decision-making in weapons systems despite reliability concernsYoung adult cardiovascular crisis: Obesity-linked heart attack mortality surge in under-55 demographicCalifornia political realignment: Republican outsider candidates gaining traction against entrenched Democratic establishmentCorporate language inflation: Jargon adoption as status signaling and expertise demonstration in professional hierarchiesMortgage rate recovery: Sub-6% rates insufficient to unlock housing market locked by low-rate incumbentsGovernment efficiency auditing: Emerging focus on fraud detection in state spending (gas tax, cannabis tax, cap-and-trade programs)AI safety concerns: Hallucinations and unreliability in current systems creating barriers to autonomous military deploymentPublic employee union dominance: Structural barrier to California policy reform regardless of political partyRegulatory lag: Government inability to adapt policy speed to rapidly evolving AI technology landscape
Topics
AI Military Integration and Autonomous WeaponsPentagon-Anthropic Standoff and Defense Production ActAI Safety and Reliability in Weapons SystemsDomestic AI Surveillance ConcernsGovernment Seizure of Private TechnologyCalifornia Gubernatorial Race 2026Public Employee Union Influence on State PolicyYoung Adult Heart Attack Mortality SurgeObesity and Chronic Disease in Under-55 PopulationCorporate Jargon and Professional CommunicationMortgage Rate Impact on Housing MarketGovernment Fraud Detection and EfficiencyAI Ethics and Corporate ResponsibilityRegulatory Capture and Industry LobbyingNuclear Decision-Making Automation
Companies
Anthropic
AI company in standoff with Pentagon over military use restrictions; CEO Dario Amodei refusing to allow autonomous we...
OpenAI
ChatGPT parent company; CEO Sam Altman publicly aligned with Anthropic's position on Pentagon restrictions
xAI
Elon Musk's AI company; participant in Pentagon's $200 million AI pilot program alongside Anthropic and others
Google
Participant in Pentagon's $200 million AI pilot program for military AI integration
Papa John's
Pizza chain closing hundreds of locations across the country amid customer decline and competition from frozen pizza ...
People
Dario Amodei
CEO of Anthropic; refusing Pentagon demands to enable autonomous weapons and mass surveillance, citing AI reliability...
Sam Altman
CEO of OpenAI; publicly supported Anthropic's ethical stance on Pentagon AI restrictions
Steve Hilton
Republican candidate for California governor; discussed campaign against Democratic establishment and state dysfunction
Gavin Newsom
Current California governor; criticized by Hilton for state's highest poverty, unemployment, and cost of living rates
Elon Musk
xAI founder; mentioned regarding satellite deployment to Ukraine and concentration of power in tech leadership
Ian Bremmer
Geopolitical analyst; cited for commentary on power concentration in single hands with emerging technologies
Quotes
"These threats do not change our position. We cannot, in good conscience, accede to their request."
Dario Amodei (Anthropic CEO)•Early in episode
"Current AI systems are not reliable enough to power robotic weaponry without putting troops and civilians alike at risk."
Dario Amodei•Mid-episode
"It feels like handing a machine gun to a chimpanzee. It just does not have a good feel."
Jack Armstrong•During AI discussion
"After 16 years of Democrat one-party rule, it's a total disaster. It's obviously time for change."
Steve Hilton•Campaign interview
"You're not a router. Just say you're busy, pal."
Armstrong & Getty•Corporate jargon segment
Full Transcript
This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human. Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong and Getty. And now, here's Armstrong and Getty. Anthropic and the Pentagon are locked in a standoff over access to the company's powerful artificial intelligence. If Anthropic doesn't comply, the Pentagon says it will revoke the company's government contracts or seize use of the technology under the Defense Production Act. Anthropic CEO Dario Amadei responded, saying these threats do not change our position. We cannot, in good conscience, accede to their request. This is really an interesting story. The more I dig into it, it's kind of exploding today. Wall Street Journal and Washington Post both having exclusives about it. That was from CBS News last night, I think. What does that mean when the Pentagon says we might just take your technology? Do they mean all of Anthropik's AI capabilities or one specific aspect of it? Either way, that would be something. Oh, agreed. Yeah, this is a horrendous thing to say. It strikes me as an invading Greenland-style unnecessary threat from the Pentagon. So? I mean, this is some of the most cutting-edge technology on Earth, and the Pentagon wouldn't know what to do with it once it got it. Very true. I mean, the AI companies hardly do. Well, they don't, really. Very true, which is one of the points Dario, the guy who runs Anthropic, is always making. Anthropic's denying some of this stuff. The undersecretary, this is just a cross, this is breaking, the undersecretary of state, last name Michael, told CBS that Dario, the CEO of Anthropic, is a liar. Oh. So full-on dropped an L-bomb on him. Let's get ABC's version of this story with Selena Wang. Anthropic says they've got some clear red lines. That includes using AI on the battlefield where it is AI and not humans that make the final targeting decision. And they're against using AI for mass domestic surveillance. Now, the Pentagon, for its part, says they've got no desire to use AI for either of those use cases, but argues that the restrictions that anthropic wads could jeopardize their military operations in critical moments. We're going to hear more from that report, and I don't know if it's in one of these reports, But the Pentagon has given Anthropic until 5.01 today, East Coast time, to drop its objections or the Pentagon might seize Anthropic's technology. What? Interestingly, and this is breaking, Sam Altman just came out and said, yeah, us too. Us too. We agree with Anthropic about the limitations and what we will and won't do for the Pentagon. So what's the umbrella company for ChetGPT? OpenAI. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, let's hear more of this report because I don't want to repeat what she's about to say. Go on. Artificial intelligence is so powerful. There are many use cases within the Department of Defense. And the Pentagon has been using Anthropics technology as part of this $200 million AI pilot program within the DoD. And it's not just Anthropics. There's Elon Musk's XAI, Google, OpenAI. They're also part of the program. But Claude, which is their AI tool, is very advanced, and it is something that the military would want to keep on using. And the other clip we have from her is that the Wall Street Journal reported that Anthropic was used in the capture of Maduro. So the Pentagon has already used that company. I didn't even know the Pentagon was working with Anthropic. Of the AI companies, for some reason, they chose to partner up with that one, and some of the technology was used to capture Maduro, which I'm sure is secret and we don't have any idea of. But Dario Amodi said in a statement late last night that Anthropic was ready to continue working with the Pentagon but would not change its stance. Current AI systems are not reliable enough to power robotic weaponry without putting troops and civilians alike at risk, he said. Oh. And existing laws on domestic surveillance do not account for the sweeping potential of AI snooping tools. In a narrow set of cases, we believe AI can undermine rather than defend democratic values. See, this is the sort of thing that Ian Bremmer's been talking about a lot where amazing amounts of power are being concentrated in, like, single hands. We've seen it with Elon Musk around the world where he can drop a satellite system into Ukraine, for instance, and you get to communicate. One guy decided that, which is absolutely amazing. Modi went on to say, well, more about he's concerned about AI being used for robots on the battlefield. But, you know, his call on whether or not it is being used properly or is ready to go might be different than the Pentagon's. Sure, sure. I was struck by that one sentence, though. So given what we've all heard about, the tendency for AI systems to have hallucinations and make bizarre mistakes, or, you know, in my experience, it kept telling me I'm not authorized to do that. And I kept telling it, yes, you are. And it kept saying, you're right, I am. And then 10 seconds later, it would tell me I'm not authorized to do this. And it just went back and forth. It was like three stooges routine or something. Who's on first? Given that state, which will be different next month, but given that state of affairs, yeah, putting it in charge of something that could conceivably undermine all of our constitutional protections, our right to privacy, if you believe that exists, blah, blah, blah, penumbra, Bill of Rights. The argument, hey, that, hey, it's not ready to be given that awesome, you know, a set of tasks. Well, that's one side of it, and that's all true. But the other side of it would be, based on my reading of Dario in every interview I've seen with him or read and everything like that, he's a very lefty, give piece a chance sort of guy. He's a hippie. He's a damned hippie. Is that what you're trying to say? He's probably the most conscientious of the people running AI, I think. Read that description of him yesterday that Elon retweeted that kind of called bull S on that. But at least his public statements, Dario seems like a bit of a hippie around all this sort of stuff and is going to be really hesitant to want his technology to be used, you know, on robots going across the land shooting bad guys. So you got that end of it, too. He's the son of Oppenheimer in that way, you know, if you follow me. Those who participated in the development of the atomic bomb, many of whom were very uncomfortable with the reality of it. I get that. Well, sir, there's a couple of interesting things here. One, I didn't realize we were this far down the road of AI being integrated with our national Defense, who did, and secondly, need a little clarification on that threat from the Pentagon for seizing their technology. Right. Whoa. You can either sell it to us or we're going to take it, in other words. Anthropic, Claude, that whole thing is in the top handful of best AIs on planet Earth. And the government's going to take it? And like you said, they wouldn't know what to do with it anyway. Right. Or how to continue to grow it. Yeah. Then it's in the hands of bureaucrats. So the technology that the people at the top of these companies are trying to keep on the rails, either for conscientious reasons or financial reasons, then the government's got one of the best AIs on the planet. We all, I don't know about your trust in the government's ability to keep it on the rails. Let me check my calendar. I'm sorry, I hate to do this in the middle of the show. Yeah, that's right. March 10th is Doomsday. Doomsday is approaching, folks. Does not this all reek of Doomsday? You got bureaucrats and or scientists both trying to wield technology. Nobody knows how it works, and it could kill us all. Is Doomsday like a blue beaver moon? Is it like one of those things? Or it's more like once a civilization sort of thing? It's always the second Tuesday of the month. I think they ought to make it on a Friday, you know, in case you get drunk or whatever. Right, yeah. Yes, Katie. They don't want to show up to work hungover. And don't forget that Mercury is in Gatorade right now. Oh, right. Mercury is in Gatorade Oh boy Speaking of things that are sometimes green rough greens What a great supplement for your dog Rough greens is not a different food. 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So I feel like I'm both unbelievably underqualified to comment on this story and absolutely qualified enough on a top level, 30,000 feet level, to comment on it as anybody would be. We got the Pentagon working with one of your top AIs, and they're having a battle over who's in charge of the decision-making. That's a huge, maybe like you're joking about doomsday, like civilization-altering conversation that's going on right now. In another post from Trump's top AI advisor, accused Anthropic of fear-mongering and pursuing regulatory capture in an attempt to bend the government to its will. Anthropic leaders have criticized one of the administration's key AI policies in recent weeks, all fitting in with the Pentagon thing that has exploded on the front pages today. Oh, boy. One of the great problems with government regulation is that it's notoriously slow to adapt to a changing marketplace, changing technology, etc. That's why it handicaps economies. Look at France. Look at Europe. and given that this is a technology that changes on like a day-by-day basis and is leaping forward toward God knows what, certainly on a monthly basis. How do you even deal with that? Yes, Washington Post on this story today. Unlike a gun or a jet engine, the uses that AI might find on future battlefields keeps changing every day. The Trump administration is embarking upon a vast expansion of the military's use of AI. Wow. The leading figures in the development of AI have long had ethical and legal concerns about giving AI the power to make life and death decisions. Well, that's specifically what they're asking Anthropic to do with the incoming nuclear missiles. AI's got to make a call on whether we respond or not. That's asking AI to make a life or death decision. And Dario is not comfortable with that. I'm reminded of the moving and tuneful Sting classic. The Russians, I think the title was, in which he was talking about nuclear war and said, I hope the Russians love their children too. AI couldn't give a crap about your children or the Russians' children, no matter how hard they teach it to. Excellent point. And it just, it feels like handing a machine gun to a chimpanzee. It just does not have a good feel. It feels a little doomy. And is China going to put their nuclear umbrella in the hands of their best AI that might not be that good? Well, and given the devastating power of AI in a hundred different applications, potentially, certainly, it could be a runt like North Korea that unleashes some sort of horrific chapter in human history. Yeah, wouldn't it be something... What a cheery show this is. Right, my final doobie who wants to listen to this on a Friday comment on this. Blah, blah, blah, pull your entrails out of your abdomen and burn you at a stake, etc., etc. I don't know if that needs to happen if we go to all-out nuclear war. Maybe, wouldn't it be something that if human beings were able to keep the lid on nuclear weapons for 80 years with the worst never happening, would all these big companies put AI in charge and AI just goes for it? somebody fires something or thinks they fired something and the AIs respond and then we're at the big nuclear war everybody's worried about. Human beings could handle it. The super smart, super intelligent AI can't. Partially because of what Joe just said. They don't give a crap about your kids. Look at the chimp. He's got a machine gun. This will end well. Chimp says, hold my banana. All right, we've got more on the way. Stay here. Armstrong and Getty. The most depressing radio show. ever. Armstrong and Getty. Papa John's just said that they're closing hundreds of locations across the country. You know it's bad when no one asks why. Business began dwindling when customers started upgrading to Lunchables. Oh, wow. Wow. East Coast media elitism. I feel like we've talked about this with a number of pizza chains. I feel like Papa John's changed over the years, too. Did my taste change or did it change? I used to love Papa John's. And then the last few times I had it, I thought, I could be wrong. Yeah, I'd like to claim I don't eat those pizzas because I'm better than you. In fact, I have claimed that. But it's mostly because Judy and I buy, like, really good high-end frozen pizzas. Yeah, frozen pizzas have come a long way. They've come a long way. That's what my kids like. There's a couple of brands of frozen pizza they just love. Yeah, so if we need it quick and easy, that's what we do. And it's so much cheaper. Yeah. So much cheaper. We mentioned mortgage rates have fallen below 6% for the first time since pandemic days. So it's in the fives. Will this be enough to dislodge the locked, to a great extent, real estate market where people don't move? Because what am I going to sell my house? move into a house half the size and have a higher house payment? Why would I do that? Sure. It'll help. It'll help. But if you got like a 2.5% mortgage like a lot of people do, still a long way from making sense probably. Hear, hear. Speaking of unprecedented, more Americans under 55 are dying of severe heart attacks than ever before. The proportion of adults age 18 to 54 who died of severe first heart attack rose 57% between 2011 and 2022. That's amazing. That's an astounding fact, given the fact that we're, I think, healthier and all that sort of stuff. Let me come up with some guesses. One more quick fact before you guess. It's especially astounding because overall heart disease deaths are improving. Energy drinks? I don't really have a good guess. Think about it. Just obesity? Mm-hmm. Oh, okay. Yeah. The increase among 18 to 54-year-olds is especially concerning because mortality from heart attacks has generally been declining. At least three-quarters of heart attacks among young and middle-aged adults are first-time heart attacks. He said risk factors driving the increase. Your first heart attack is your last heart attack for a lot of people? No, that was kind of a weird statistic. Don't get hung up on it. Risk factors driving the increase include diabetes, chronic kidney disease, and drug use, the study found. There you go. A lot of that stuff is tied, obviously, to obesity. We're not just all of a sudden overweight, though. We've been overweight for quite a while now. obesity rates have skyrocketed certainly since the late 90s. Yeah. And now the people who have been obese since childhood are reaching the age of your candidate for the old ticker bomb. I don't like talking about this. I know. I don't either. So let's stop coming up. The corporate jargon we hate the most. One more thought on it. We'll circle back to that. We'll put a pin in it. The whole fat acceptance thing is insane. Yeah, it is. I'm not going to belittle someone or berate them or make fun of them because I don't believe in cruelty. But anyway, well, enough said. When you sit around the house, you sit around the house. Oh, my Lord. Bathroom doors fitting through, etc. No we not going there Got a lot of good stuff to get to though Not that And good for you If you missed a second it a podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand Armstrong and Getty I'm like you. I'm no better than you. I'm a 960 SAT guy. One of the odder attempts to be relatable than I can remember in running for presidential history. That was the governor of Cal Unicornia, the current guy. Here's a guy who's running for the office, longtime friend of the Armstrong and Getty show, Steve Hilton. You probably know him from The Next Revolution with Steve Hilton on Fox News, or he formerly hosted the podcast California Rebel Base. Always good to talk to him. Steve, how are you, sir? Very well. Great to be with you guys. What a joke. Newsom just goes from completely useless, the most useless governor in America, to a total joke. I mean, I don't know how he thinks any of this is helping him. So I don't have any idea what you got on the SAT or the equivalent that you took in your country growing up, but what do you think his goal was there? It's okay. I'm as dumb as you are. Make me your president. Right. And I'm sitting there thinking, number one, you just called me dumb. Number two, I want a smart guy. What are you doing? What are you working at? You know, Steve, speaking of... It's unbelievable. Speaking of, quote, unquote, your country, I know something about your biography, that your parents fled communism in Hungary and started a new life in England where you grew up and worked and rose to levels of influence. It went to Oxford University, etc. I am, we are both rabid anti-communists, but I'm guessing that part of your disdain for the mobbed up one party system in California is your family background. Is that a stretch or is that true? Exactly. No, it's both parts, actually. You're completely right. I've got a complete hatred of big authoritarian government that tries to kind of run your life and tell you what to do. I saw that firsthand when I was a kid. We'd go back to Hungary behind the Iron Curtain every year, sometimes twice a year, and I just saw what the rest of my family had to put up with. You can't run a business. You can't speak your mind. You can't. Everyone is forced to have roughly the same income. Basically, Mamdani's dream in reality there. I mean, I've been to state run grocery stores as a kid. I've seen them. You don't want them here. But that other part of it, actually, is the UK part, because as I was coming of age politically, it was at the end of the 1970s, a decade of socialism in the UK. You can't call it communism, but it was very strong socialism. And it was a total disaster. You had sky high taxes up to 98 percent on the on some people, the unions running everything, unions in control of everything, massive regulations. Businesses couldn't run their businesses. It was a total disaster until Mrs. Thatcher came along. And honestly, when I'm looking at what's going on in California today, it really reminds me of 1970s Britain, which was when we had the worst unemployment in Europe, the worst inflation, everything a disaster. And that's the kind of thing that we need to address here in California. We're the worst-run state in America. We have the highest poverty rate, the highest unemployment rate, the highest cost of living. The union's running everything. They want to tax everyone to the hilt. They keep coming for more and more of our money, for their bottomless money pit. And we've got to change. We've got to go in a new direction. And actually, one of the things I say, I'm on the campaign trail the whole time, is apart from all the kind of specific things I'm fighting for, $3 gas, cut your electric bills in half, your first hundred grand tax-free, no more free health care for illegal immigrants, so we can lower health care costs for you, a home you can afford to buy, make our state Cal affordable. I'm fighting for all of that, but there's a bigger, deeper thing. I'm fighting to make sure this beautiful state that I love does not turn into the country I left. Well, we've seen, like, for instance, with San Francisco and electing a new mayor and the streets getting cleaned up, that even people on the left can get sick of their policies to the point of wanting to try something different. Exactly. And you see it in all these debates that I'm doing. The first TV debate a couple of weeks ago, me against six Democrats. I wiped the floor with them, honestly. It's not me just bragging. That was the vote from the statewide TV audience. I won by 66%. The next one was Matt Mahan, the mayor of San Jose, the new entrant in the race with 17%. Everyone else was below that. Last night, a debate here in L.A. at the Skirball Center with the Jewish community. That was streamed and televised on Spectrum. And again, the verdict was very clear. I beat all of them, not for doing anything special other than telling the truth, which is after 16 years of Democrat one-party rule, it's a total disaster it's obviously time for change and it's time for an outsider to shake up this system and these democrats i mean they know we need to listen to them at these debates they're all saying the same kind of things that i'm saying because it's the truth but of course they've got zero credibility how can the people who made the mess be the ones to clean it up well and it's pretty well known if you study california politics that the democrats are running to prove themselves as the most loyal lackey of the powers that be, including the public employee unions and the trial attorneys and a couple other super heavyweights. How long is it going to take before the public catches on that that's the reality, that the we're here for you and we're going to lower prices, blah, blah, blah, is entirely a charade? I think they are catching on. I mean, this is why I think I'm leading in all the polls. And as we have more focus on the race, we have more TV debates. I think it's going to become clearer and clearer. That's why I've always said, I know people look at this race and they look at California and say, oh, a Republican can never win. It's too Democrat. I've never believed that. I've never believed it's going to be easy to win, but I know that it's possible because people are sick of this. And you're seeing that now as more and more attention comes onto the race. And the other part of this I think is really important is I'm running this race in a way that we've never seen before. I'm putting together a team in advance to make sure we are really credible and ready on day one and people can believe that we really will make things different. So I've got running mates for Attorney General Michael Gates, the former city attorney from Huntington Beach, who sued Gavin Newsom on housing mandates and voter ID and the sanctuary state law, an incredibly strong fighter who's going to be with me in Sacramento, making sure that my executive orders have the full force of the Attorney General. Herb Morgan running for state controller with me. He's going to be there fighting with me to root out the fraud. Just today, we published our second fraud report. I've set up the California Department of Government Efficiency, Cal Doge. We announced that about a month ago. We are already getting to work on a volunteer basis. I've got a team finding the fraud. Just today, our second report, $1 billion over the last 10 years from the gas tax and from electric bill surcharges through the cap and trade scheme that was supposed to be spent on solar panels for low-income apartment buildings, Only $72 million was actually spent on that. Out of a billion? Listen to this. $928 million siphoned off into Democrat political activism and voter registration. Wow. That's our second. I know. That's our second report. The one before that was $370 million from the cannabis tax going to the same purposes. I mean, we're just getting started. So we're going to be ready on day one to deal with all this nonsense. And I think that's the difference this time, that I'm putting together a serious team. I mean, just this week, I was in L.A. in Figaro Street, which has become the world capital, shamefully, of child sex trafficking under the Democrats. I announced my plan to deal with it, including the appointment of a new director of anti-trafficking initiatives. She was there with me. I've got the person who she's been working on this issue for over a decade. This is a really serious effort we're putting together. So by the time we get to November, I'm very confident that people will see. They already know it's time for change. They know we can't go on with this nonsense. The only choice for California is what is it? You've got to put up with this nonsense or leave the state? That's ridiculous. So they don't need to be persuaded that it's time for change. What they need to see is a really serious, clear Republican alternative, and that's what I'm putting together. We were profound. We're glad to hear how fired up you are because there ought to be revolution in the streets in California. Never mind a vote. I mean, that ought to be a no brainer. But we so discouraged when Lon He Chen ran for a controller was endorsed by every major news outlet in California though he is a Republican And and he still lost to a hack has do you think just enough time has gone by enough decay has been so obvious to the average voter that they they can't resist it anymore what makes you think a republican can win now if lon he couldn't a couple of things i mean lon he's a good friend of mine is great guy i agree with everything you said there but the problem is that was the state controllers race and inevitably there's just less attention on that. And so it's harder to break through and make an impact. The governor's race is where all the attention is. And as I am showing by winning, like hands down all these debates, I mean, it's not even close. As I said earlier, the first TV debate, I won 66% of the statewide audiences vote for who won the debate. Then the next Democrat was 17%. Same last night. And so I think it's the first point is that the governor's race gives you the opportunity to make the case more clearly and strongly to the statewide audience. Secondly, we've got a huge secret weapon this year, which is all about, because it's a midterm election, it's all about Republican turnout, boosting the Republican vote. The fact that we've got voter ID on the ballot this November is incredibly important because we know that although it's got widespread support, it's got majority support across California, including among Democrats, It's Republicans who really are passionate about voter ID for obvious reasons, because it helps stop the cheating. And so the fact that we've got voter ID on the ballot in November, that's going to really help us get a big vote among Republicans. So that's another reason I'm very confident we really can pull it off. And then the final point, look at who they're putting up. You know, I mean, as the president might say, right, they're not sending their best. Anyway, you've got Mrs. Mashed Potatoes. You've got Fang Fang Swalwell. You've got the billionaire climate fanatic, Tom Steyer. You've got this mayor from San Jose who even his supporters, who I know, they say the reason you've got to vote for him, he's, quote, the least insane Democrat. Oh, come on. You think we can do a bit better than least insane? Their candidates are weak and unimpressive, and I think we can really pull it off this year. I really believe that. Steve Hilton is fired up. He's running for the governor of California. Steve, we will talk again soon. Go get him. Absolutely. Great to be with you guys. See you later. All right. Thanks. Bye-bye. You know what he needs? Rob Lowe. Now, talking about Rob Lowe. So, talking to Steve Hilton. When you win, if you win the Rob Lowe vote, you've won the state. What we're trying to do here is, and we like Steve Hilton. We used to have him on on a regular basis. What we're trying to do here, we did this with Arnold when he was, on the upswing. And we became, you know, ingrained enough with Arnold that we got invited to inauguration. And I was sitting like six seats away from Tom Arnold. I mean, that's how great it was. Wow. Rob Lowe up close. That's how fantastic it was. Breathing the rarefied air. Breathing the rarefied air of Tom Arnold and Rob Lowe. So if we get in with Steve Hilton early and he's got a chance of winning, then we get to go to inauguration again. Wow. I'm all about the people of California, you climber. I'm all about the connections. What a phony. Thank you so much to Tom Arnold. a chance to be close to Tom Arnold. That's a once in a lifetime. Yes. Arnold. Good lord. I was going to ask Steve Hilton, are you going to get Twisted Sister? Is that the name of the band? Saying we aren't going to take it? Oh my god, no. No, you're not helping. We're going to blow up the boxes, we've got the brooms, we're going to sweep them out of office and those sorts of things. We're not going to take it. Yeah, those are beautiful days. Wonderful days. We all miss them. Oh, my God. All right. Let's stop this foolishness. Coming up, the corporate lingo everybody's growing to hate. We'll hit you with the top answers when they ask corporate folks that question. And the great airport dress code debate is really heating up. We'll get into that in hour three. Stay tuned. Armstrong and Getty. As much as I don't want to, I suppose we should touch on Epstein in hour three, what Hillary says she said behind closed doors in six hours of testimony yesterday. You go ahead. I won't. I'll leave the room. I hate it. Hate it. Bill Clinton is on the stand today. The Clintons. The Clintons? And trying to figure out exactly what's going on here. What is going on here? It's madness. That's what it is. Also coming up, gender bending madness, a blockbuster report making progress, but still a long way to go. What percentage of the population do you think uses jargon, trying to sound smart or buzzy? I don't know. And what percentage of us are really annoyed by it? Or could never say it without being ironic. I'm just like, I'm not built to say any of those things seriously. Yeah, if you're surrounded by it constantly, it seeps into your vocabulary. and I don't hate everybody who, for instance, says I don't have the bandwidth for that. I actually do say bandwidth quite a bit because it's such a good description. Yeah, I got to admit, I've strayed. I've crossed the line. I've used it. But things like circle back or put a pin in that, there's just a gazillion different ways to say that. And that's just signaling that you're part of a certain kind of crowd. No, I've got lots of successful friends who use all those terms because that's how you signal that you're at the top of the heap of understanding that sort of stuff, I guess. And I've known some cops and military guys who throw around jargon, and they should know you have no idea what that means. And they should also know if they know they know that and use it anyway so you have to ask them so they can demonstrate their expertise. That's incredibly annoying and jivey. Just say it. On the other hand, some people don't have the instinct for how what they are saying is being received. And I think if you're a reasonably good performer of the task of doing this job, you do have that instinct. Anyway, here's your top business jargon phrases that people have grown to hate, according to Wall Street Journal readers. Bandwidth. That's number one. Interesting. You're not a router. Just say you're busy, pal. I should stop saying that. It seems like such a good description to me. No, it's funny. I hate jargon, but I disagree, especially given our job. I don't have the bandwidth to get into the scandal at the Department of the Interior, for instance. It's a pretty good metaphor. Anyway, I love this. This guy writes, An email recently arrived from our IT staff alerting us to a, quote, zero-day vulnerability on our devices. That would require an immediate update. I don't know what that means, but I want to run from that phrase. And he writes, yikes, what exactly did that mean? Was it as bad as it sounds? Zero-day vulnerability. Ooh. Oh, no, no. Let's see. Change agent. Another phrase. This is how a former colleague describes himself on resumes. While that might be an attractive descriptor to a company looking for an unemotional outsider to change, a.k.a. whack half of an organization, conjures for me someone on the midway at the fair wearing a money belt with pennies, nickels, dimes, and quarters, a change agent. I'm a change agent. You hire me, I'm a change agent. You'll notice office supplies starting to disappear. Circle back, a classic. I asked someone to do some research, and the response was, I'll check it out and circle back to you. Why couldn't they just say, okay, I'll send you my results or I'll follow up? Decision tree, as in let's reach up into our decision tree. It's just stupid. Decisioning. It's a pointless invention to give gravitas to the notion that action or choices should follow. For example, this is a decisioning meeting. Oh, I've never heard of that one. It's completely unnecessary. I'm going to start using that. I'll say that to my kids tonight. This is a decisioning moment for us. What should we eat? misplaced effort to sound more important rather than to do some real work and i don't know make a decision deep dive oh really not investigate study discern discover find out about look into you had to go with deep dive did you all go to the same mba program growth mindset hard stop hit the ground running among others i was in an mba program in the 80s when that was the hot degree and yeah, people threw that stuff around a lot. I don't hate the juice isn't worth the squeeze. Sorry, I don't hate that one. We got more on the way. Armstrong and Getty. This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human.