Silk Suits and Pure Spite: The Ringer Tailgate Haters Ball

welcome back to ringer tailgate it is officially award season here on ringer tailgate also in the real world but uh in our world especially college football has wrapped up and we are officially done with the 2025 college football season and we're very excited for this show let's say what's up to our guys first and foremost van lathan van how's it going man ready ready ready hut hut and joel how's it going you look fresh man you look good great yeah i mean the thing is is like do i i'm as this show goes along i'm like do i want to go along with y'all on this shit or do i like it's like like i don't feel like i should be a good teammate but then but like explaining what's going on but you have to be either explaining what going on is like good for me because i get to explain why this is happening or if i don't say anything about it right then then it's just like fuck y'all i'm not gonna play if y'all you go ahead joel is this joel this is our award show this is our award show and you decided to like you know come dress in a night yeah you look great you look good that's what happened okay yeah let's yeah i'm not gonna play along see that's what i'm saying what but see i'm not not going to do it because if i don't play along then i then the show is not fucked up in case you couldn't fucking tell is that they had talked about oh we're going to do this haters ball idea for the show your idea your idea your idea well you want this your shit they kept trying to convince me that this was my idea and i was like i don't remember coming up with that idea i was like it sounds like something that i could have came up with yeah it's a good idea whatever and so they were like oh yeah we're gonna do this haters ball thing and we should all get dressed up And I was like, well, dressed up for a haters ball. Y'all have a text thread different from me. No, we don't. No, we don't. There's no way for y'all to... We don't have a text thread different from you. There was a mastermind here. And this person would text people individually. I'm not at liberty to say who it was. But there's no text thread without Joel. No text thread. But here's the deal. And this is why I'm positive. If you guys are listening to this, you're missing out. You need to go on YouTube and watch this. Like, comment, subscribe, share, whatever. Like, comment, subscribe, share, whatever. All that. You look great. Joe looks good. Joe, that's a great shoot. You said it's a Joss Abonk? Yeah, I guess. It's a Joss Abonk? I think it's that. I don't know. You have no clue. Or DKNY. DKNY. I was DKNY. Okay. It was so kind you brought an extra tie because you thought Van needed a tie. We talked about the fact between pods that I did not have a tie. Joel brought an extra tie, which means that he had two ties. Stand-up guy. He had a backup tie, which is the kind of guy that we know Joel to be. Yep. I'll say this. First award to be given out. Okay. If you – Yes, please. If I may. Yes. The first award to be given out right now is the year one MVP of Ringer Tailgate. And I'm doing something that you can do in the Congress. I'm moving right now to send this directly to a vote. Majority wins. And I'm nominating. Okay. I'm nominating Joel Anderson as the season one MVP of Ringer Tailgate. All the yeas in the place. Raise your hand if you agree that Joel Anderson is the season one MVP of Ringer Tailgate. All the yeas. Yeah. All the yeas. None from Frius. Frius is up. The yeas have it. The first award has been given out. Wow. And I move that this award be named the Joel Anderson MVP trophy. Great job, Joel. Should we raise the roof? Raise the roof for the fastest 10th grader, for the fastest 10-year-old. That's our MVP. In history right there. That's our MVP. That's our MVP. That's our first award. That's our first award. That was a great award. The MVP award. The season one MVP award, Joel Anderson. The only thing I can think about is that if I just followed Tate to his car, none of this shit would have happened. If I just followed my instinct, I was like, let me see if Tate actually got a suit. I had to commit to the bit pretty hard. We did. Yeah. I had to go to my car. I'm not going to bullshit you. There was significant planning that was involved. Yeah. That's just a fact. I mean, I just, I knew, dog. Fuck. Why didn't I follow my instincts? Anyway, whatever. You look great. First award given out. Why are you in your face? Yeah. He doesn't want to be seen right now because he's an MVP. He's a bashful guy. He doesn't want all the focus on him. But let's start with the second award of the night. MVP has been given out. Congratulations. Joel Anderson, tailgate MVP. You'll love that. Raise the roof, everybody at home. And now our second category of the night, Ho of the Year, which is a very fascinating category, HO of the Year. This was a controversial topic on the show, and really across all of college football. Our two candidates this year for Ho of the Year, Lane Kiffin, head coach of LSU, former head coach of Ole Miss. our second and last candidate for hoe of the year, Reddit CFP. Now, not an individual, but an entity. This is going to be tough for you. These are our two nominees. This is going to be tough for you. I went off the board. Okay. You went off the board, so you didn't give it to Lane or Reddit CFP. I want to say two things right here. Number one, I know Joel's not going to like this. Obviously, Lane Kiffin is the coach of the LSU Fighting Tigers. I can't give him hoe of the year. Ready CFB, I have no beef. I have no beef either. Yeah, I know y'all don't. I have no friends on this show. I have no beef with Ready CFB. I have no beef, but I can't give it to Lane Kiffin. But, Joel, you said you went off the board, so that's more interesting. So, Joel, who is your hell of the year? I don't want to participate in this show. But anyway, Mike Gundy. Oh. Yeah. Okay. Over the air. Yeah, please. Well, do you remember the week before they played Oregon? Mm-hmm. And he was up there like, well, you know, they spent a lot of money on their team. Ah, that's a good call. They spent a lot of money on their team, and, you know, that's not really cool. Maybe they should play teams that are better than us, you know, teams on their own level. I was like, well, shit, that's what they're trying to do to you, bro. They don't want Oklahoma State to do this kind of stuff no more. But anyway, he also threatened to put duct tape on his Nike patches because to send a message to Nike. Went out and lost 69 to three. Cost him his job. Cost him his job. And I'm just, if you're going to sit there before, what are you telling your players? You go out there and it's like, man, they spend a lot of money on these guys. Y'all are not really. I'm with you. I think my vote, if I'm going to vote here, I think I'm going to go with Mike Gundy. You've changed my mind. Do we remember the Pitt coach? Oh, that also pulled the same thing Pat Narduzzi pulled the same thing A less whorish level But you could argue that I think Mike Gundy is the right call here I'm with it Should we finalize? Okay, please, another hoe Joe the hoe master The other Okay, the other one is Marcus Freeman oh wow joel joel joel joel i just joel joel you're real joel so everybody they said they they went around the table and they're like so i don't think we're gonna have a lot of players for the next game and we're really disappointed that we didn't get to go to the playoff you guys want to play and they went around it like guys yeah man you know we just kind of want to end the year and whatever and then he sat there and acted like you know they had disagreed to breach you know the enemy front in north korea some shit like that like i don't north korea well i don't know they stormed normandy they stormed normandy yeah yeah there you go no r is a good start anyway i don't know you're going normandy yeah but you know that so i just i mean come on bro like that was nothing and he was like oh i was really proud of you guys that was really that was showed a lot of character a lot of courage in deciding to not play against another team in a bowl game. It just seemed like some ho shit a little bit. Okay. So, I will say this. Frius, Duke, if you guys will note the time code of this episode where Joel has called Marcus Freeman a ho. I guarantee I don't think this was the point to put this... Just wait a second. I guarantee that Marcus Freeman will be a guest on this podcast. Guarantee. He was already supposed to be on this already supposed to be yes guaranteed the question is do you have nominated him for hole of the year he has not won i think it's pretty clearly mike gundy but would you tell him that you nominated him for the year to his face yeah i mean i would give him the context don't worry we'll play the clip we'll play it'll be good uh so final answer hole of the year final We'll give it up. Mike Gundy. Mike Gundy. Mike Gundy. Congratulations, Coach Gundy. Congratulations to Coach Gundy. Thank you, Coach. Ho of the year. Ho of the year. It's actually better when you win these awards, you know what I mean? So if you're going to be a ho, you might as well be ho of the year. Next up, Daddy of the Year. Oh. Obviously. That was a big one for you. That's it. This is yours. Nothing else to say matters today. That's not true. Joel, you have won MVP. You've won MVP. You actually realigned the first category. I don't even know how to explain it because I don't want to keep focusing on this, but it really is just fuck with my head. I've really not been able to switch back on. Joe, but that's like everything does. It's fine. It's fine. I think you're actually focused. I think you're crushing it. Daddy of the Year nominees here. Number one, Big Daddy Simpson, a.k.a. Alabama quarterback Ty Simpson for Daddy of the Year. Ryan Day, Ohio State head coach for the nipple ring that we remember. Week one nipple ring, Daddy of the Year. Feels very much. Marcus Freeman, who's both been down for Ho of the Year and Daddy of the Year. That's interesting. Ho of the Year and Daddy of the Year. That's the versatility. Got to see both sides. And then the last Daddy of the Year, Haynes King. Somehow in there for Daddy of the Year. Looks like a father. You know what I mean? I think that's the reason why he's up there for Daddy of the Year. No T.J. Finley. No T.J. Finley for Daddy of the Year. He was the one that was doing it for his kids. Right. That's right. I mean, I can be swayed. Mike Gundy was off the board and he won. Very true. I'm going to go with, in this particular situation, because this is the player that Joel invented the term for. No. So I'm going to go with Ty Simpson. Big Daddy. Big Daddy Ty Simpson. Right. Because Ty Simpson, one of the funniest moments. I can remember on a text thread, it's like, yo, it's Ty Simpson's daddy. Joel comes back with Ty Simpson is a big daddy. Big daddy, all caps. All caps. I'm like, wow. I was trying to create camaraderie. Right, and you did a great job. You tried to get teammates. MVP move. You did a great job. You did it. Ty Simpson did not have the end of the season that he wanted to. but throughout the middle of the season he was the daddy of Alabama football. Four straight wins against ranked opponents. Yeah, Joel did not believe that they should be ranked, but I think Ty Simpson, big daddy. Any pushback on that, Joel? Any other daddies out there? I know that your father, you know. Yeah, who's daddy? I don't want to do this. All right. So I think Daddy of the Year is Ty Simpson. Okay, you don't want to get involved. You've already done it. First of all, okay, Joe already said it's Ty Simpson. Ty Simpson is Daddy of the Year. Give it up for Ty. Ty Simpson, Alabama quarterback. You didn't win the Heisman, but you got Daddy of the Year. And you're going to the NFL. You turned down $6.5 million from Alabama. Or, sorry, from Miami to go to the NFL. So Ty Simpson, shout out to you. That's a daddy move. That's a daddy move. Yeah. So they don't need that money. Next up, Trayvon Boykin Award, a.k.a. Best Quarterback in College Football. The Boykin Award. The Boykin Award for Best Quarterback in College Football. Stop looking. What? Joel, we're doing a show. Joel, we're performers right now. Here we go. Trayvon Boykin Award, Best Quarterback in College Football. Here's the nominees. Anybody off the board, please bring them up. Drew Mestemaker, Joel's number three quarterback. That dude, he's cold, motherfucker, man. North Texas' very own, going to be at Oklahoma State next year. Diego Pavia from Vanderbilt. Vandy. Obviously a top choice. Trinidad Chambliss from Ole Miss. Darian Mensah from Duke. Dante Moore from Oregon. And of course the Heisman winner, Fernando Mendoza. The Boykin Award. Van, best quarterback in college football. It's impossible not to give it to Mendoza. I almost thought about giving it to Trinidad Chambliss. Me too. I almost thought about giving it to him just because... Mendoza's won a lot of awards. Mendoza's won a lot of awards. Chambliss led Ole Miss on a spirited run in the playoffs and made some gigantic take throws. All the way to the end. If you watched in the National Championship game getting battered and bruised and destroyed, if you watched what Fernando Mendoza did, there's no way you can't give it to him. He said he was taking back shots, front shots. He was saying all types of stuff. Pause. Big time. Big daddy. Anyway, so is it my turn? Yeah, it's your turn. I'll probably go with Mendoza. the thing about Mendoza is that yeah I mean that was Joe why are you blocking yourself I told you I'm rather you like Ricky Bobby when he's like I don't know what to do with my hands like in the interview I'm uncomfortable but you look great you look great you do this is anyway Mendoza I gained a lot even a lot of respect you remember when Pat Mahomes got his ass kicked and that lost to the bucks oh shit can i tell you something the people from outkick wrote about me right oh oh yeah i'll kick i'm i'm now now i'm official really because outkick has called me off for race baiting that means on your show no it was on higher learning we're talking about josh allen oh my kid called me off for race and that means i truly am advocating as a as a black man they never criticize uh whatever shout out to them appreciate the love um the only other time I can remember being disgusted at the reaction to a quarterback during a game where he was getting his ass kicked and wasn't doing shit was that game. I know that he was getting his ass kicked. Come on, dog. I know that he was getting his ass kicked. Come on, dog. But he, they were getting dominated and he would do something and they would be like, only Patrick Mahomes can make that throw away out of bounds. I'm like, this motherfucker's on his goddamn back get a fucking defense some credit man yeah i don't like that dumb ass shit get a deep in surviving like i get it but like get a defense some credit and say like he's hearing footsteps and the whole nine but everybody was talking about even during the game like how gutsy the performance was and all of that stuff like that i do that when you win the game and when you make plays in spite of that's doug that's mine that's why he ain't got no respect for you because you getting your ass kicked and didn't win enough. Garrett Nesmeyer. His dad is Doug Nesmeyer. His dad is Doug Nesmeyer. He's not on the list. He's not one of the best quarterbacks this season. He's not on the list. He's not. Mendoza, right? The beating that he took in that game sort of reminded me of the Pat Mahone. I was like, God damn, they really are hitting him tonight. That was the first time I've seen him under that kind of pressure. He didn't have like a 300-yard game, but he was still very, very good. He made plays. He made throws. It was as close to an NFL game as you're going to get in college. Certainly. With Brady there watching him. Very, very important game for Fernando Mendoza. So should we give it up? The Trayvon Boykin Award. Fernando Mendoza. Best quarterback. There you go. Fernando Mendoza. It would feel wrong not to give him that award. We don't have to be contrarian. Next up, Chambliss finished close second, though. So shout out to him. We just want to make sure Pavia knows he was not second. It was Chambliss. Next up, the Dan Lanning Coach of the Year Award, a.k.a. the Sonny Dykes Coach of the Year. There you go. So here's our nominees. Joel. We got Dan Lanning, one of the nominees for award he's named after. Kirby Smart, head coach of Georgia. Pete Golding, the interim now official full-time head coach at Ole Miss. Kurt Signetti, Indiana. Mario Cristobal, Miami. Marcus Freeman, Notre Dame. Mike Elko, Texas A&M. And Deshaun Jackson. and added to the list as well. Hey! So there you go, Dan Lennon, Coach of the Year. Joel, you seem fired up. I'll start with you. Well, I mean, the Coach of the Year has to be Kurt Zignetti. Okay. Right. But you got a little excited for Deshaun Jackson. Well, so I actually had him. I had a couple guys that are kind of off the board. I'm impressed with people who do a lot with not a lot. Right? And so he's one of those guys. Do you consider Zignetti to be one of those guys too or no? It's kind of tough. kind of tough right yeah it's like he built something that had never been existed there but all the ingredients were there right and he was able to tap into it but i mean what he did obviously a special but uh i but i mean delaware state man they had won like i mean like two games in two years they were really down under like one of the worst you know fbscs programs in the country and he turned them into an eight-game winner they were within a game of going to the So, Brayson Bowl. So, I – And we got the Mike Vick versus Deshaun Jackson head coach game. Yeah. Pretty cool. And, I mean, Mike Vick – Mike Vick did not have a great year. Yeah, he did not have a great year. He ain't doing what Deshaun's doing. Mm-hmm. And so, yeah, it was just really impressive. I wouldn't have thought that would have been it. So, I'm really impressed with guys that do a lot with not a lot, as I said. So, David Braun over at Northwestern, Eric Morris, North Texas. Mm-hmm. Those are some guys. But, no, I think you got to be Coach Zignetti. You're Coach Zignetti. Yeah, Zignetti. Zignetti. Yeah. Congrats, Coach. He deserved it. Impressive. You can't do anything about that. Next up, TJ Finley Award, Portal Player of the Year. Oh! Yeah, so he had his own category. That's why we didn't bring him up later. I like that. Here are the nominees for the TJ Finley Award. Carson Beck, Miami quarterback. Nico, how do you pronounce his last name? Iamalayaba. There you go. Iamalayaba! I was just ready for it, Joe. I know you had it. All right. John Mateer, Darian Mensah, Trinidad, Chambliss. Those are your T.J. Finley Award Portal Player of the Year. Van, who deserves to win the T.J. Finley Award? It's got to be, to me, Chambliss. It's got to be Chambliss to me because of the story. He is a portal player that's almost like a throwback, a guy who was at a smaller school before he gets the opportunity, he comes in and balls. Ferris State. Ferris State, don't have too much to say more than that. A lot of these guys have great stories, but I've got to give it to Chambliss. it's going to be unanimous because i mean division two i don't he probably did not have a full scholarship he probably had to pay some money to play at ferris state and to go from that to going toe-to-toe with the the national champion runner-up right like and they were depending on him like without it so without his coach his lead play caller he had charlie weiss jr of course but lane that's his offense and he played like that in the playoffs weiss calls the plays just to let you know why it's called some place i mean he called some of them but that's lane white's okay okay okay i know it makes you feel better i know that way i know that's good yeah okay anyway you ever see lean on me yeah joe clark you look well in this suit you why you remind me of this i was getting over it yeah you were getting over it i was getting i was you actually he was moving in the right direction but can you see joe with a microphone okay we're starting a brand new year. Shut down! And I know that you guys are sitting, we got some new rules for you guys. We hate you Mr. Edison! You look like you could be in the administration of a school. A good school. Oh man. I was over it dog. You might have fucked up the rest of the show. Damn, I apologize. I totally moved on dog. I had moved on but now it's okay. what was the point of that? You called me Joe Clark TJ Finley Award also I was agreeing with you I was trying to say Trinidad Jambliss he probably had to pay to go to school and now look at NCAA let the boy play give him another year he deserves it that's very big of you you always got to root for a black man in Mississippi Yeah, man. If we don't root for him, who is going to? That's right. Take care of him, brother. Take care of him. Yeah, and honestly, he went there to be the backup. So for him to win this award, even more shocking. So final answer, Trinidad Chambliss. TJ Finley, World Player of the Year. World Player of the Year. Yep. Love to see it. Next up, Bust of the Year. Oh, shit. This is going to hit close to home. This is going to be a tough one. Let's start here. Arch Manning, preseason Heisman favorite. He's up there nominated for Bust of the Year. I think he made some amends at the end, but again, still is what it is. The Penn State Coaching Search which was tough Boy was that tough Nico Iamalaya Yes he there for Bust of the Year Brian Kelly former head coach of LSU up for Bust of the Year And Cade Klubnick, quarterback at Clemson, up for Bust of the Year. No Lagway, no Nussmeyer. Those guys, no Drew Aller. Those guys didn't. Let's nominate him. Let's get him in the conversation. I think Lagway, who was the third highest paid QB in college football, should definitely be up for Bust of the Year. Bust of the year. Yeah. He got his coach fired. Man, I just don't think he was hurt coming into the year. So you're giving him an excuse. Yeah, I wouldn't. Nussmeyer was hurt all year, too, if you want to go with that. Well, Nussmeyer, not on the list. Put him on the list. I already put him on there, yeah. Brian Kelly. Brian Kelly's on the list to represent LSU. We put the blame on Brian Kelly. That is my winner for this award. Okay, bust of the year. It's bust of the year. Won his first game, finally. Won his first game, had a historic NIL commitment, transfer portal class, you know, A.J. Halsey, Montser Delane. So many guys come into the team. I could go on and on and on about even the guys on offense that we had a receiver that came in, supposed to help us out. None of it happened. Baton Rouge was conquered by Texas A&M. One of the most unceremonious exits of any LSU coach I can ever remember. kind of reminds you of a curly hallman type situation not the same tenure curly hallman was a fucking desperate failure but i would say bust of the year uh for is easily brian kelly for me i'm with that that's a that's a good argument i well i the only thing that keeps me from doing the penn state coaching search is that they ended up with matt campbell who's not a bad coach but i think the thing is is that if penn state had gone through that coaching search and ended up hiring james franklin they would probably feel about as good as they do having matt campbell you know and so you know i i still think firing james franklin is stupid and they're going to end up regretting it but i also don't think that matt campbell is going to be a failure so yeah i guess you know brian kelly man i i'm still shocked that can you just imagine if we started at the beginning of the year and been like by the end of the year brian kelly gonna be fired gonna be gonna be fine we We would have thought it was a scandal. Mid-season firing. Yeah, man. There's no way we would have. We would have thought it was results. Or James Franklin, too. I mean, shit. Yeah. Some really shocking firings here. Yeah. Yeah. So, Brian Kelly. Brian Kelly. Bust of the year. Bust of the year. Yeah. You should be happy, man. You got your boy. Yeah, that's what it is. Took some hoodoo to get him out of there. Had to do it. That's right. Yeah. Magic. Energy work. That was the hoodoo of the year. Van Lathan. That's right, man. Look at that. Hoodoo of the year. Hoodoo of the year. we just put in there. Here's some other good ones. Most shocking result of the season. So here's the number. Upset of the year. Let's do it. Upset of the year. We got UCLA upsetting Penn State. Upset of the year. We got Sharon Moore being fired by Michigan. That was an upset. No, no, no. You're right. The first one was better. Shocking of the year. Most shocking result. Yeah, that's how we had it. Okay, most shocking result. Sharon Moore being fired by Michigan. FSU upsetting Alabama. These are some good ones. That's a good one. Louisville upsetting Miami. Indiana over Ohio State. So these are your most shocking results. All of these things are pretty shocking. Nothing. Well, Penn State, UCLA is really getting to me. To watch it unfold. I was like, man, they're going to really fuck around to lose. New Heisel getting carried off by his team. But is there anything that can compete with the Sharon Moore news and how it was when it dropped and how expertly we covered it here on The New York Times? We've never ran a Sharon Moore segment after that first one, huh? Oh, we're not talking about that nigga no more. That's it. Nearly got the whole thing fucked up. Okay, everybody was like, you guys will know that this shit was happening. We didn't come in. We were the, what do you call the guy from CBS? Tony Ducalpo? Yeah, Tony Ducalpo. That was us. He can't even toss to the right segment right now um his wife is bad though yeah man uh yeah yeah hey yeah man she is that's one of them ones katie man can you know what this is so funny because i remember when i did slow burn and we would have a release party in brooklyn okay and so the pr our publicist who's my friend katie had said man we're gonna have some people there and i was like oh cool taylor lorenz came oh she was there uh you know people in hip-hop tupac's uh ex-wife came it was tupac's ex-wife yeah keisha morris okay i didn't realize tupac was ever married tupac was married when he was at the uh clinton correctional institute okay wow interesting yeah anyway it was nice i'm trying to remember uh easy mobile was the dj we had a nice little party okay anyway my publicist said katie turn she's she's a big fan of slow burn and she might be at the party because she loves it so much i was like god damn okay i would see katie turn in positive man that'd be pretty cool but then as i thought about it i was like oh the first two seasons were about uh watergate and the clinton impeachment scandal she didn't care about none of that shit i was talking about bro that honestly you you wrapping up that story might have been my most shocking result that's the air like what she didn't come she didn't come okay but again taylor lorenz came right taylor lorenz i just never spoke to me it's fine it's cool like i don't no beef well who taylor lorenz she seems like a whatever like you know cool what what's happening Joel, we're in the middle of the awards segment. Most shocking result, UCLA upsetting Penn State, Shereau Moore being fired by Michigan, FSU upsetting Alabama, Louisville upsetting Miami, Indiana upsetting Ohio State. Which one of those, outside of Taylor Ritz going to your party, which one of those upsets is the most shocking? Man, just think about how you – man, just – damn, Doc. The Shereau Moore thing, because I think maybe – It's got to be true. This is the last award he's probably ever going to win. You know, it's not the firing. It's what happened after. It's not the action. It was the reaction. Yeah, it was like the firing was crazy, and then it was like, it's kind of funny, but it's not funny. It's all night, then he got arrested. Yeah. It was funny until it wasn't funny. That was a really crazy day. That's the most shocking result. Yeah, that's the most shocking result. I mean, it was so shocking, we did not talk about it for a month and a half. Right. Yeah. That's how joking it was. Enough of that? Yeah. That's one of the more shocking things. In sports. Yeah, in sports and college football that I can remember. We've seen scandals involving people that work in these organizations before, but the way that one unfolded was almost unprecedented. Bobby Petrino, he's been made a fool of because he fell off a motorcycle, hurt his neck, and he showed up with a neck brace on. And it's like a thing. It's viral. People use it as a meme, but Sharon Moore in a jumpsuit, bro. It's tough. And, bro, I'm already seeing the meme work with him. Anytime you see, like, a bad white girl on the Internet or something, there's a Cherone Moore picture right up under it. Yeah, that's his legacy. That's his legacy now. It just means more. It just means more. Most shocking result, Cherone Moore. Cherone Moore. Razor roof. Razor roof. Last time there. We love to see it. Next up, a fun one. Joe, I'm excited to hear your thoughts on this. This is 227 award. Best Tussler. Best Tussler in college football. Don't act like y'all never heard about tussling, man. Yeah. Well, not only have we heard about it, we're awarding it, Joel. We're awarding it. Yeah. That's how much of it. We're bigging it up. That's the MVP impact that we have here. Brian Parham, 126 total tackles, 10 1⁄2 sacks. He's up there for the best tussler. Reuben Bain up there for one of the best tusslers. And then David Bailey, Texas Tech, 14 1⁄2 sacks a season. Those are the big three. Any other tusslers, Joel, out there that we have not nominated? I'm going to go with Reuben Bain, man. That's my guy, Doug. his heavy ass hands quick as shit he's always again and i'm going to say it again for maybe the sixth time this season i think he's better at his job than fernando mendoza is at his job you know like i think he's that good of a college football player ain't shit you can do with him and the motherfucker looked like he was rock you know what i'm saying like oh yeah yeah yeah yeah i was trying to explain what he looked like on the last time and i was just like oh no he just looks like a guy somebody said in the chat he got a union job yep you know he don't look like a normal and you don't anyway he didn't look like kimbo slice as i said right okay gotcha um hyper explosive violent really dominating player yeah me maybe the most dominating player i saw in college football this year also he had the notepad right where he would write all those notes and like make the drawings and it was like you know psychopathic stuff on there you know he's like I want to kill this guy. And you're like, I think he should be a top five pick. You know what I mean? I definitely think he should be a top five pick. I mean, that's the thing. Like, people would talk shit about him and he would have a final word. It's been a long time since college football had a football player, a defensive player that seemed kind of scary. Mm-hmm. You know what I mean? That's why the Adamic and Sue was actually a good... That's why you, when you brought up Sue, it was kind of apt that you did. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, like an element of menace. Like, that motherfucker, he get your hands on him. A homeboy, the linebacker at arizona state oh shit uh that motherfucker vontaze burphec vontaze burphec you know what i'm saying that's my guy we got to get vontaze on the show gotta get him he's unlv uh he's actually a super nice guy yeah but he used to put your ass like knock your fucking lights out he was nuts bingo stealers game so fucking crazy like you remember that playoff game i also remember him i remember juju getting on his ass oh dude well i mean antonio brown i mean He had the hit on Antonio Brown. But then Juju got it back in blood. Oh, he did. Oh. I got to see. No, he fucked Antonio Brown up. But then Juju got it back in blood like crazy. You remember that hit? Yeah. Smith's Shoes against Murphy? I didn't remember. Yeah, Juju went crazy on him. That was the most notably. He got out of the league in time, though. He still got to get head on his shoulders and everything. That was the most notably violent NFL game that I can remember. I was like, God. That AFC North. They used to be hitting. I mean, Donald. Across the middle. Kirkland-ass, you know. Ravens, Steelers, Biggles, Browns. They were hitting. Yeah, they were hitting. That's for sure. So, all right. Final word, 227 award. Reuben Bain? Tussler of the year. Tussler of the year. Shout out. I feel like Mesidor could have been up there for a tussler as well, but we'll give it to Reuben Bain. I feel like he earned it. And he had the name recognition. Let's keep it rolling here. Beef of the year. Oh. A lot of beefs out there. man this whole show man okay go ahead what beef of the year beef of the year you don't like beef oh you don't like that see man what what's beef i don't trust y'all what you mean you don't trust us it's just just go ahead man for beef of the year you know what beef is beef beef is when you need two gas to go to sleep yes yes i got you okay that's what we're talking about do you know can you give us like what's happening here with with with what's going on is this is this is what we're doing right now is this usable stuff i what what is going on why why don't you understand beef of the year yeah why don't you understand beef again just again i'm just torn on like how silly this is what do you mean in what sense you know what i'm talking about and the thing is it's like the bit becomes even more ridiculous as I play along with it. What bit? What do you mean? It's a bit, dog. This is related to what I said that Billichick had a lot of beef or a lot of meat or some shit like that. It's actually not. It's actually not. This guy is the best guy ever. It's not related to it. We're talking about actual people that have beef. People that have beef with each other. Yeah, and do you want me to read the nominees? Cut that out. No. No. Absolutely not. Keep that in. Don't put that in there. Beef of the Year nominees, Lane Kiffin versus Ole Miss. Okay. That is a beef that is real. Diego Pavia versus Heisman voters. Jordan Hudson versus Pablo Torre. Whoa. Up there for Beef of the Year. And also Joel Anderson. This is a late addition. Joel Anderson versus Lane Kiffin, Silver Spring. Wow. He won't meet him there and tussle. So there you go, beef of the year. Man, your thoughts. Run it down one more time. All right, Lane Kiffin versus Ole Miss. Okay. Feels like the right answer. Diego Pavia versus Heisman voters. We saw a lot of strain there. Jordan Hudson versus Pablo Torre. Another good one. That's a really good one. And then, of course, Joel Anderson versus Lane Kiffin. If it would have been Joel Anderson versus Reddit CFB, I would have been very I couldn't give them multiple mentions in the categories but it's clearly Lane Kiffin versus Ole Miss that was an opera that was playing out in college football one of the most bizarre things that I've ever seen before you're getting that defensive end what's his name Prince the defensive end Prince U Prince U getting him there's going to be some shit over that they got a couple of hard guys too and they took frank wilson so it's this weird thing going on between them yeah that's what i'm saying i mean it's just it's just i i think a lot of cross pollination the funny thing about this is that lsu versus old miss was a fake to me rivalry like it wasn't like there was no heat around it but not this is the kind of shit that made lsu and alabama a great rival that that's what essentially birthed that as a rivalry that was of note before then i care way more about like the auburn game yeah even the florida game yeah yeah yeah so this like this is what lsu old miss is going to be now it's going to be a thing every year and that's cool i love it where you can kind of create a real rivalry or something so yeah man that's i feel like that lane shit man it's not and it just i mean the things that people are saying on social media inferring about lane and all this stuff like just you know the the nasty little rumors that they're spreading about each coach and what they were doing in the college towns and stuff so like that's the kind of stuff that we enjoy is like college football fans like the drama that keeps it keeps it going so that's the final answer for me no jordan no pablo no jordan no jordan no jordan and pablo is kind of heat because when you start to sue somebody i mean that's some real heat though you know nothing has happened with that by the way yeah like you look at you man you just like jordan jordan is who's side do you take it actually yeah who do you side with between pablo and Jordan? Yeah. Pablo. Wow. Yeah, I actually was willing to feed information if he needed it, but... You go against North Carolina? I'm surprised. She's not North Carolina. She's against North Carolina. She is North Carolina. She's against North Carolina. This is like, she's not a real Tar Heel. She's not a real Tar Heel. She's not. She didn't stand her ground. No, man. She didn't stand her ground. She didn't have Tar on her heels. She didn't stand her ground against freedom for blacks. She's a different kind of essence. She's not our essence. I mean, she lived Miss Maine. Oh, yeah. That's why you don't like her. It's a class thing. She was against... What? I saw white people talk about each other. What happened with the tar? I don't know. I assume that's how they talk. The thing is, when you know when a white person calls a white person white trash, you know what they think about a black person. My father... My dad used to say that he considered that to be when it was white on white he considered that to be in his estimation more insulting than an n-word because he was like when a white man would call a nut like when white people when you when you are white trash when you're not good enough for white yeah because when you my dad would be like when you when you're white you're in the conversation you're all supposed to be sitting down eating together you white trash get away from these like that right there something that's that's That's deep. The mark of the beast. That's private school stuff. I'm just saying she doesn't represent North Carolina. So I'm team Pablo. I like how Tate got that. He was like, let me just get back to you. I never said she was trash. You got to talk to who was the guy at the school? Lombardi. You got to talk to Vince Lombardi about that shit. He would love for people to think that. You got to talk to him about it. He was like, hey, hey, Tate. Hey, Tate. Did you call this fucking guy's girlfriend trash? i made you taste i'm just saying she's not north carolina so okay team paula i'm saying she's not us wow she's not us i mean i just and i do i mean like you know she she's serious i don't i think whenever you say you're going to sue somebody it's a big deal this is like saying i'm gonna i'm gonna shoot you i'm gonna fight i'm gonna get you out to school yeah it is it's like oh like i now i know i gotta be on the lookout for you bro like now i know that You may never actually do it, but you've alerted me to the fact that you want to fuck with me. See, now you came around me since the threat in and of itself is used to establish a new dynamic in a relationship. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Watch yourself, bitch-ass podcast. Yeah, that's right, bitch-ass nigga. Get the fuck off me, bitch nigga. Fuck you talking about it. That's what Jordan said, yeah. That's what Jordan said. That was the right quote. Pablo, I'll fuck you the fuck up. Who are you talking to? Who are you talking to? don't even Pablo don't even come on my block Pablo I hear everything you say I hear it I hear it and guess what I'm gonna do put a lawyer on your dumb ass punk ass I talk to people too Pablo I know people think I got I got Bill Belichick with me the fuck you talking about like all of that Globetrotter shit I don't fuck with none of that I know the hotel you stand at when you come yeah be a Peabody Award fuck that shit I get dead the fuck at you I'll get at you. I'll get at you. I'm not even lying. If Jordan had that attitude and was saying all that, I'd probably be Team Jordan. You guys would have swayed me. That would have been my pick there. But Lane versus Ole Miss, B for the Year. B for the Year. B for the Year. Yeah, B for the Year. Roll it up. Roll it up. Love that. Next up, this is an interesting one, Bag Drop of the Year. So, you know, a lot of people were paid in the portal, as we know. But there's only two nominees here because really the only ones that worked out. Arch Manning was the highest paid. You know, didn't quite work out. Texas Tech, one of the nominees for Bag Drop of the Year. They spent all that money. They made the playoff. You know, you've got to give them credit. And Carson Beck. They spent a lot of money to get Carson Beck. They got to the national championship game. Even though it didn't end well, he did get them on the precipice of something special. So those are the two nominees for bag drop of the year because they both worked out. Any more bag drops that we want to point out? So I would give it to Texas Tech only because – They deserve it. Yeah, it's Texas Tech only because Miami played well enough at quarterback last year to make a deep playoff run. They just didn't have the defense. Really the main difference between Miami this year and Miami last year is how the defense played and what they were able to get on the edges with the pass rush. There were still some remnants of their ineffectiveness defensively that were still on the team. You see some of the stuff at corner and maybe back there in the secondary. But the pass rush just nullified a lot of what those guys, it covered those guys up a little bit. They have a young secondary that's going to be a lot better next year. That'll be the strength of the team, not if they won't have Mesidor and Bain. But, yeah, I still think the Texas Tech, man. Yeah, it's Texas Tech. I mean, first of all. Also, Sorsby got $5 million from Cincinnati, and that's in the window of our award season. So the fact that they not only bought this team, they bought a future quarterback because they had no offense. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I mean, it's like, do you know how hard it is? The reason that this is amazing and that Texas Tech was doing things this year that had never done before, have you been to Lubbock? You know what I mean? And I'm not even trying to shit on Lubbock, but Lubbock is a long way away from Dallas and Houston. It ain't near none of the population centers. So it's hard to convince people to go out there and play. it's in a dry county though somebody pointed that out to me the other day and i was like god damn i forgot little county is a dry county so it's a tough to get people out there and despite all that they built up a roster that was they were good enough to compete with oregon if they had a decent offense what did i know lubbock for before i knew it from texas tech was there a tv show that was buddy holly huh buddy holly was it buddy holly well there's a buddy holly museum though interesting Was there a TV show that was based out of Lubbock? I'm going to look. The TV show is set in Lubbock. If there was, tell me yes, I'm going to tell you what the show was. Was there a TV show that was set in Lubbock, Texas? Why did I know Lubbock so well? You going to do a chat, G? What are you doing? I'm doing a Google, man. Was there a TV show set in Lubbock, Texas? Huh. There's a gym teacher with the last name Graham Lubbock for just the ten of us. Just the ten of us? Yeah. That's what it was. It wasn't just... They weren't in Lubbock, Texas. They weren't in Lubbock, Texas. It's a common misconception, though, that people think they're in Lubbock, Texas. Yeah, like, Graham Lubbock was this guy, and he had, like, ten kids. It was cheaper by a dozen. It was cheaper by a dozen. And one of the kids was the lady who played Nancy on fucking Freddy Krueger. Nancy from Freddy Krueger was on that show. Nancy from Freddy Krueger? But her name was Nancy For Real. No, no, it wasn't. Her name was Heather. Heather Langenkamp? Yes. That's her. She played Nancy on Freddy Krueger, and I was so afraid of Freddy that that show... You thought he was coming out. I thought Freddy was coming to get this motherfucker. You know what I'm saying? So, like, Justice City, it was the Lubbock family on Justice City. Oh, so, okay, right. Okay, so it wasn't the city. It wasn't the city. They had multiple cast members that were in the Freddy Krueger universe. Oh, who else? Brooke Theis or Brooke Theis. Oh, none of these people. Yeah. You never watched Just the Ten of Us? Of course not. Just the Ten of Us. I used to watch them. I think it came on USA. I think it came on USA. Yeah, USA. Came on USA. That one of them shows It started to come on a click Hold on for a second Hold on I going to ask everybody in the room It going to lead perfectly into our next category I going to ask everybody in the room something if they can identify the TV show that I talking about by what I do with my hands Everyone look. Okay. Heated Rivalry. No, no, no, no. Mork and Mindy. Wrong. No. Mork and Mindy would be a good one. It's not. It's not Mork and Mindy. You're on the right track. To people watching this at home, can you name this TV show by me doing this with my hands? Oh, shit. It's not Morky Mindy, but you're on the right track. Robin Williams, incredible in that show. Robin Williams, great show. Yep. You guys can't see it. I'm putting my index fingers together. Okay. The show was called Out of This World. And it was about a little white girl that was half alien, half human. Her father was an alien. And he was off world. Okay. We need more alien shows. She lived with her mom, I think, in, like, the Bay Area. Sometimes her dad would talk to her through, like, a crystal or a box or something like that, like some Superman shit. But she could do, like, this and freeze time. I'm vaguely aware of this show. This is kind of in the small world. Was this, like, network TV? I don't know that it was network. This might have been another USA type, maybe a syndication type thing. She could do, like, this and stop time. Man. I remember. I guess E.T. would have been a good answer when he did the fingers. Well, he said TV. Yeah, that's what I mean. Oh, well, Burt Reynolds is on the show? I don't remember him being on there. Oh, he was a guest star. They used to have some shows about little white girls. My Two Dads, little white girl. Little white girl. Punky Brewster, little white girl. Blossom. Blossom, little white girl. Unfortunately, I watched all of Blossom. You liked it because of Jennifer Noe? No. First of all, the funny thing is I didn't know Six had ass until like... Nobody knew until like 97. Yeah, until 97. So I definitely wasn't watching for that. Fresh Prince was on. It was NBC, by the way. Fresh Prince comes on, and then Blossom came on, and then Monday Night Football came on. So I'm really like during the Blossom thing, I'm not really paying attention. I'm trying to get my shit done so I can watch Monday Night Football. Yeah, there you go. Because you're locked in. I saw a lot of Blossom. So who did we vote for? What was the category? Oh, yeah. What is the category again? Oh, nothing. Texas Tech. Yeah, Texas Tech. Texas Tech. Texas Tech. Texas Tech. Texas Tech. Texas Tech. Texas Tech. Texas Tech. Texas Tech. Texas Tech. Texas Tech. Texas Tech. honestly i just i was the reason with the only two categories is i'm going to break the whole artifice of this fucking show we recorded the other show the last week oh look at billy stood up like he was gonna do something what's that you're all right we're just like what what are you what's the end game here what are you trying to do recording this two hours after the previous show and so that's why i changed clothes and everything and also tate didn't have time to add more categories to this shit because we're rushing. Two hours in between. Yeah. None of that's accurate. I mean, it's accurate that we're taping it after, but everything else is a lot. I mean, we're hitting everything. Next up, Hater of the Year. Hater of the Year. We actually have two nominees for Hater of the Year. I'm trying to get back to y'all, man. I know it won't work. Two nominees for Hater of the Year. Number one, Nick Saban. Hater of the Year. Never picked a Kurt Cignetti team to win on college game day. Hater. Really? Number two Hater of the Year nominee, Joel Anderson, who's just hating on the show in real time. You know what I mean? Joel. I don't know y'all, not the show. Joel, I love you. It's been a pleasure. You win this going away. Wow, Joel, Hater of the Year. Well, I'm not voting for that. Well, go on and move to the next topic then. You don't want to be Hater of the Year. You're the MVP. This entire show was your idea. I mean, bad dog. Do you know the level of gaslighting y'all engaged in? What? I mean, bro, I was like, I did not come with no Hater of the Year. Text and emails of me saying, I did not come up with this. This is not my idea. And y'all tried to convince me that I'd come up with this. Right. I'm going to come. Okay. All right, Hater of the Year. I think Nick Saban's out of the year. Yeah, Nick Saban. Nick Saban. He had to win something because he's important, I guess. Image makeover of the year. Virginia Tech up there for image makeover of the year. James Franklin Hire, guys in the portal, all of that stuff. Right. That's in there for image makeover of the year. Are there any other people? Nick Saban was up there for image makeover of the year. Mario Cristobal. Yeah, there you go. Mario Cristobal, image makeover of the year, I feel like. I think that might be the right answer. Vanderbilt? Vanderbilt, the school. Vanderbilt was good last year. Who is the guy that decommitted from Georgia and went to Vanderbilt? Jared Curtis. There you go. That's an image makeover move. That's a huge image makeover move. If we think hard enough, we could probably Indiana. I mean, they should be in there. Image makeover of the year. Image makeover of the year. One of the most dominant football teams. Texas Tech. Image makeover of the year. We never talk about Texas Tech this much ever. Ever. Remember at the beginning of the season? I was actually looking back through our episodes in the preseason episode. We talked about Texas Tech buying their team, and we were all like, what difference is it? Yeah, it's not going to work. Is it possible that Texas Tech did have a moment where we talked? They've always been, you know, half-line offense, all that. I mean, Mike Leach. The Crabtree team that beat Texas, perhaps that time, it was like they were flirting with being in the lead program, but they couldn't quite sustain it. You know what I mean? Yeah, I just feel like, yeah, even that year. And the thing is, I felt like the focus is Mike Leach because anything that Mike Leach was at the center of, it was always going to be about Mike. It was gold. It was always Mike. Even if they didn't win, it was like a great interview. I mean, Leach was just the man. Just do a lot for your culture. Yeah, right. But it was all about Mike, right? Yeah. This is like the head coach is even just barely noticeable. If we went around and just started asking people like who the coach of Texas Tech is, I promise, I bet one out of ten will get it right. it's very true yeah this is joey mcguire for the people watching right yeah this is just a program that is about a program and the coach is sort of incidental to it like everybody people that follow it probably would say even the gm james blanchard is as big a deal as uh you know joey mcguire so yeah i i just never talked about texas tech as much before in my life he's a data girl from texas tech too that's what i'm talking about who are we going from i think it's mario cristobal image makeover of the year I feel like Mario Cristobal has earned it to be honest to take Miami on the road to A&M to win that game the way they did to beat Ohio State the way that they did to then beat Ole Miss the hottest team in the playoff to be quite outside of obviously what Indiana was doing but I mean Ole Miss was I mean with Chambliss they looked kind of unstoppable at that point to win that game the only reason why I would agree no gaffes along the way either right the only reason why I would agree that it was Cristobal is because last year's team was viewed as being soft. Yeah, that's true. And a choke. This year's team had some losses that they probably shouldn't have had but they completely made their reputation over as being known for playing trenches-based hard-nosed football. I'm going with Mario Cristobal. I'm going with Cristobal. Or aka Cristobal. Some real Cubans said that I had that right. Billy, is that true? Billy. I ran it by Billy. Billy. That's not true. Like I said, I don't have any friends on this show, so it's fine. It's not true. My image makeover here is Vandy. I don't agree with y'all about it. All right, so Vandy. Yeah, I'm going to say. You're going Vanderbilt for image makeover here. Vandy actually also kind of had expectations this year. And, you know, I don't know if they exceeded them, but they at least met them. This is the best season in school history. The first time they ever won 10 games, they were a potential playoff team. They were in every game. I like the way they handled not making the playoff, too. Yeah. Clark Lee handled it like a man. They went out and played, and they didn't win. Not like a hoe. Yeah, he did not go out like a hoe. And they didn't even have their best player, Eli Stowers. Or their best NFL prospect, I should say. All right. Let's put up a good fight. We win. Two to one. Mario Cristobal. Mario Cristobal. Hey, Chris Stobal. Raise the roof, Joe. Joe. Joe. Joe. Joe. Joe. Joe. Joe. You got to raise the room. Come on, Joel. Okay. I did it. All right. Comeback of the year. Only one nominee for comeback of the year here. One nominee. One nominee here. That's how I do the list. No, no, no. The one nominee for comeback of the year, raising the roof. Oh, wow. An incredible comeback of raising the roof. See? See what happened? He was over there acting like an asshole. Yeah. And then it came back and it got to you. I'm just never going to be on y'all team this episode. That's not true. You're on our team. I'm futilely trying to get back a job, but it's not working. Come back in here raising the roof. Listen, you decided you wanted to come to the podcast dressed like Paul Heyman. And we all appreciated that, man. We all appreciated that. The wise man. Any other comebacks outside of raising the roof that we we did not mention i feel like raising the roof was i mean i've seen it everywhere right and maybe it's one of those things where once you see it you see it but it's been everywhere joel man that'd be great oh what's up man not only has raising the roof come back come back the origin and the true the truth context the story story of raising the roof the true technique to raising the roof yeah oh yeah like the not the commercialized version that luke was doing right right okay well you call him out he's going to respond so be ready for that so like it it but the actual raising of the roof that takes a roll up and puts it with a lift yeah that right there that's your origin story out of south side of houston okay 1994 there you go caught on in the culture for for a few years and held it down i've seen a lot of people say well we were doing that the late 80s or some other shit. I never saw it. When you were doing it, it didn't catch on. When I did it, QC Comics were doing it. That's the fuck we talking about. You know what I think you're saying? I think they made it a hot line. I think you made it a hot song. That's right. Should we give Raising the Roof Comeback of the Year? Comeback of the Year. You know who's never raised the roof, not once? Frius doesn't fuck with it. Frius, you don't raise the roof. Frius doesn't raise the roof. All right. And he did it right. I think one of my favorite things was realizing that Joel raised the roof different than I thought you were supposed to raise the roof. You know what I mean? Like the first time that we all raised the roof together, when Joel did the roll into the raise and had the hand underneath the elbow. That was the thing. That was the difference. That's a real raising of the roof. Right. Yeah. I thought that was the best part. That was great. character of the year we have two nominees and they're from the same school Michael Irvin character of the year also nominated from the same university Abela Danger character of the year man we have all these lists I don't see any of this shit no wonder y'all okay go ahead it's a glitch this is a tough one I gotta give it to Irvin though Irvin is in a career resurgence. Bell is switching to a new career. Right. Just fan. Irvin is in a career resurgence, man. Podcasts on Netflix. Podcasts on Netflix. Miami's Rise, he's been ubiquitous in terms of his being connected to the university. You see him everywhere. I don't know. I got to give it to Michael Irvin. I'm with you. I want and also I just want to say I felt bad about the Abela danger thing in retrospect yeah this is why I want to give you an opportunity to talk about this I thought it was a very fair point yeah no I mean because then you know I saw her response to this and she said I wish that ESPN had not done that and I just want to be known as a student at the University of Miami and I was like that is fair like it's not cool in the way that she was being recognized to sort of scam likely huh that was scam likely oh okay okay it wasn't anyone my shoes on do not disturb but go ahead okay well you thought that was her calling yeah i thought you were calling her no no no yeah we wanted her to see your message yeah okay cool yeah are you gonna say anyway but um yeah no i mean i just felt i mean i felt like bad because i yeah i mean just don't want to yeah why why are people why is it such a joke a really nice person a student of the school a fan of the university and should be able to just go watch the games and stuff like that yeah man we just you don't know how things affect people yeah you know what i'm saying so you know it feels bad bringing it up more but it's just something to think about for next year right now yeah look the good news is that next year ward show maybe not a haters ball theme we'll figure out a new theme we'll all wear you know something nice maybe we'll do this maybe we'll do this and get the gators involved as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the fans that we have right now, the four of you guys. I like you calling them the gators. We should be, they would say a mascot, we should be the ringer tailgate gators. Now, obviously, I'm not into that because Florida, however, if it's gators, G-A-I-T-E-R-S Gators, like a gator, then I could do that. If it's a gator G-A-T-O-R-S I can't really fuck with it. Wait, here's the thing. Gators are as much a part of the Louisiana landscape right down the floor. I say more. I'd say more too. I always say that. I say more. Bitch, it's a chafalaya. Okay, and you know that. I want to do a category favorite mispronunciation it's a chaff a liar it's the chaff a liar basic hold on for a second i'm gonna take this personally this is where my people are from raymond from down there like no this is where my people are from shout out to everybody from maryngwan rosedale irwindale shout out to port allen and plackman shout out to all the people new roads point quip shout out what do you know about new roads and point quip that's what my family is from that's my mom and them family that's where my family is literally that's where they from new roads baby that's where my people is from up there new roads my mom and them people they're from there for real my mama's people are from new roads bachelor walker my mama's people are from new roads that that's where they live that's where my family literally that's what all the they trace it back my family the well the interesting thing is this my family is from new roads all that part of the all that part you know ramey's over here all of the chapel i'm based last after port allen and all this other shit well i named what mariguin because i was mariguin is the ancestral home of my family that's my father's family everybody is from there new roads is where my mother's family it's a great discovery though that very true really why very true so so all of those places like all all of that stuff west of the mississippi across the river because you got everybody that moved to baton rouge you know i'm saying they're doing they think south baton rouge gardia all of that stuff the bottom the top shout out to glenn oaks man you know i'm saying okay shout out to every shout out to dixie shout out to niggerville the park shout out to everyone everywhere shout out to sherwood shout out to everybody out there man all of those people shout out to baton rouge but a southern you grad by the way well shout out to southern shout out to the whole lot shout out the whole deal so what i'm saying with all of that stuff is like when you go west that's what a country part of my family is that's where they really come from okay west across the river well excuse me what is it actually it's a chaffalaya a chaffalaya it's the chaffalaya basin chaffalaya might actually be better i'll call it chaffalaya basin ramey you know what i invite you guys should we go down to the basin i invite you guys we'll do an lsu game this year and when we do this game i'm gonna take y'all over the river i'm saying what up to dad y'all don't have to do that but like i'm a but i'm a i'm a i'm a take there you go i'll take you guys take you guys over the river we'll say what up to dad and then i'm gonna show you mariguin i'm gonna show you ramey i'm gonna show you sparks canal okay you have to name all the places i'm telling you all the places i'm gonna show you yeah and i'll show you summer point capilla and new roads okay show me summer point capilla no rose that's just that's just a little bit west yeah it's like a little bit west like go over there do the whole thing my grandmother used to take us over there. Me and my sister, we would spend a whole full of days in New Roads going around there, False River and the whole night. Okay. Yeah. You ever been on False River before? I don't know. They are a McDonald's hotel, right? Yes, nigga. I didn't grow up there. They got a McDonald's. They got a McDonald's. They got electricity. You're asking me about parts of a town that I've not been to. Wait, but you're telling me like, I'm telling you, have you spent time on Falls River, on the river, doing the whole thing. I spent no time over there. Back in the original, boy, a lot of gators down there. Yeah, we can do gators. We can do gators. We can do gators. I'm pretty sure Lana Del Rey married Gator Man, and he's from the bayou. Captain Shreve Gators in Shreveport. Gators is a bunch of gators down there. Shout out to the gators. A lot of gators. Nickinson gators in Texas. Yeah. Even though you said it's still... Bro, it's a bayou. Texas doesn't become Texas to me until you leave Houston. Yeah, that's right. Like, in terms of the topography and all that stuff. Houston and New Orleans have a funny relationship with each other, that I-10 corridor, I like to call it. But, like, they're kind of cousins. Yeah, it's like all of them. I mean, even with Katrina, I mean, Houston was such a hell of a thing. Yeah, that's why, I mean, yeah, it was just, we're just, you know. Bring that up? Yeah. I'm just saying, I mean, Houston was like a, he's from my family. No, we're going to take a break, and on the other side, On the other side, we're going to talk about 9-11. We're going to take a break on the other side. I'm trying to give Houston some love. Wow. Right. God damn. Shout out to the tailgaters. Shout out to the gators. Shout out to the gators. We need to, hey, somebody draws a cool gator. Like a tailgater. Like Joel in a suit. Like as an alligator. Like a gator tail. On the next, we're going to add that to the logo. If somebody draws a cool gator. I wish you'd stop talking about it because I'd forget about it for a little bit. All right. We've got two more categories. Two more categories before we get out of here. We've got friends of the program. We've got friends of the program. So best friend of the program. Oh, shit. That's a good one. Best friend of the program from this year. We've got Jeff, who we had. No, he loves you, man. That's my guy. What's wrong with you? Jeff loves you, bro. Jeff is my man. That's my guy. Jeff, catch him if you don't even into the episode. Shout out Jeff Ketchum, man. Yeah. Loves Van. Jeff Ketchum is a cool one. Loves the streets. Joe, this is... That motherfucker was so hyped to see Van. Shout out to him. This is hate. I'm letting y'all know this is hate. That's not a glitch. TJ Finley, best friend of the program. Oh, I do have to be TJ. TJ's up there. Who else? Is there any other friends of the program? Are those the only two guests that we have? That's why this category is hilarious. So I think that's – unless we had anybody else outstanding that wanted – Chris Ryan is a big tailgate fan. Oh, Chris Ryan loves tailgate. Chris Ryan should be up for being a best friend of the program. We were talking to Chris earlier. Yeah, Chris Ryan. But he'll text me and be like, you know, hey, Joel loving Nico is hilarious. You know what I mean? Oh, I got somebody else that could be a friend of this. Chris has never done what? I've never had any conversations with him, really. Well, he's a fan of your Nico love. He talks about you. So this is what he told me one time, because he was one of the really early champions of tailgate. He really is. He said to me, he goes, Joel's not important enough for me to text him, but on his behalf, let me tell you that I think he's really good on the show. He said it also would be hilarious if Joel wore a suit on the final show and you guys didn't. I got another nominee for the chat. oh the chat the chat the chat it'd be kind of fucked up to pick tj over the chat now it would be right and to be fair tj did have his own category right so he's already gotten some of the tj finley award we gave that out for portal player of the year with trinidad chambliss so he did have that the chat might be the best friend of the program yeah man i love the chat man and joel you you engage with the chat more than we do yeah yeah man i said that's a real good way of building the show make people feel like they're part of it and all the people are de constant Joe Isidore. I think that's what it says on the screen. Any other people that I own? What we should have done was... Look it up first? No. What we should have done was had a Chatter of the Year award. Mace Windu. We'll do that next time. We have to pay attention to it a little bit more. It probably is Joe. Mace Windu. He's what's up. Shout out to him. Shout out to Mace Windu. But if we do the general chat, then everybody Yeah, a lot of people, but you know, you got to do that, man. Because, again, like I said, Joel Klatt gave out four fucking tickets to the Rose Bowl, man. That's the kind of people we're competing against in this field. But he's got Fox. He didn't give out four tickets. Nobody know give a fuck about that. They listen to his podcast. Right. Yeah. Oh, but you know what? He works with Fox. Should we get four tickets to next year's Rose Bowl right now while they're cheap? Well, what I would say is that, you know, if, in fact, the Rose Bowl becomes sponsored by Spotify. and perhaps we could like do something like that yeah you know joe clad is doing all of that you know you know everybody's got their own little deal sponsorships coming in look all of that different stuff we're with it we'll travel around and do your whole deal we're here to stay baby all right what the travel thing we'll talk about that travel around i mean we see but i definitely want some more ads i really really would would have thought this is a tailgate thing When this first got started I was like we should have red cups Maybe next year we have red cups. And then, you know, like have a, you know. Maybe you tell people what you got in your cup. Modelo is sponsoring every college football podcast. Have you noticed that? Well, Billy, you're upsetting Billy. Am I allowed to talk about that? Well, we don't have to pick out specific sponsors. You know what I mean? Oh, okay. That's a glitch Give it up to the chat And I'm not shitting on the sales department By the way You're just saying the chat The chat won For best friend of the program The last award Because he's been such a great sport Throughout the year Joel, you're going to do the Joel Award Which is You gave out the Joel Award preemptively I believe on the live show Which we had never heard of the Joel Award But it led us to say, you know what, we should have Joel actually do an award. So this is the Joel Award, the final award, the most important award that we have here. Thank God I got a chance to prepare for a few minutes before the show. Because you wouldn't have a chance. Because it gave me a chance to think it through. Okay. Right, and to say who I would want to honor. Right. And I like to think of myself as a fan of labor, the little man even. You know, Joel Sixpack. You know what I mean? I think of myself as a guy that fundamentally I just go to work. I work hard, keep my head down. You know, I try to keep my boss happy, keep my wife happy, keep my kids happy. I'm just an everyday man. People, I don't even know if people think of me in that way, but that's the way I think of myself. I think of myself as just fundamentally a cog in this beautiful machine, right? I think you're more than a cog. Not a star, you know, whatever, but I'm doing my part to make the world better. You're the MVP of the show. No. I'm the first MVP of tailgates. You're about to have the new logo of the Gators. I'm telling you. No, man. The gator is Joel in a suit. With a gator. This is my category. Okay. Please, somebody draw that. No, don't do that. So, the thing about it is that. As a gator, though. Joel as a gator. No. With glasses. Don't do that. You're like, Joel as a gator. I don't. With glasses. In a suit. We don't have that kind of a family. They're not going to do that. In a suit. Why somebody do it? Joel. nobody's gonna take it go ahead joel award joel award last award all right so it's like best picture yeah this is the best picture so i think of my you know anyway it's sort of a regular man and i don't always necessarily look at everybody with all the advantages sometimes i look at people that like take the road less traveled maybe they had a little harder way to get to where they needed to be and they stuck it out when times were hard and then managed to thrive so uh the joel award is going to go to my boy nico iamaliyama i was hoping so yeah i was really i mean that he went to that school and everybody's like that kid man he made such a bad mistake and he overplayed his hand now he's at ucla they're going to get i feel like everybody was like laughing at him and wanting him to fail pull against him and he was going so bad early in the year i felt bad for him i was like shit man i was kind of hoping he would kind of turn it around and then boom all of a sudden they go off on that little win streak. They had a little run. They had a little run. Showed signs of life. And he got hurt. I mean, that was the reason why they ended it. He got hurt. I mean, man, look, the team played better, but he still was the star of the show. A lot of things had to happen with him. And it showed me his grit and his character. And he's coming back next year. To UCLA. To UCLA. We're going to have him on the show. To UCLA with a brand new coach. A coach who knows how to use somebody like his that will use the skill set of someone like him, should I say. he might have a breakout year yeah man i just i would like to see that kid thrive anybody when people start jumping on people uh you know or you know but i just i just felt like it was just kind of unkind and mean to a kid who maybe did make a mistake or maybe took bad advice or whatever and i want to see him thrive and so that is my that's who my you know that's the kind of kids i root for so my joel of the year nico iamali so i will say this about nico iamali ava um I do feel like the decision to leave was completely mismanaged by his father and some of the people that he was getting advice from I will say this though I feel like there was a direct effort looking back on it see how the season played out by the national mainstream media parts of it and parts of the college football machine to paint him and hold him up as the example of greed and self-centeredness in college football in order to either intentionally... It was scare tactics. ...to try to defeat some of the movement by the players that we are scared. I agree with that. I think that that narrative over and over and over again... Do I think he made the smartest decision to go to UCLA? Whatever. But I'm saying the narrative over and over and over again and how it was covered over and over and over again to me were the college football power brokers talking to everybody else and trying to cool off the fire of NIL and the transfer portal. Yeah. So, yeah, I'm glad you brought that up because that's something I've been mad about all fucking week because there's this – it's sort of – it originated with Josh Pate, friend of Van. That's my guy. Yeah, that's your guy. Yeah, I got no beef with Pate. But anyway, but Pate said. One of the best college football minds in the nation. He's very good. Very good communicator. He's very great at that. Yes. He's a really good podcaster. Yes. But what Pate said, Pate said, Pate said something along the lines of he's hearing from coaches or people that there's dozens and dozens of players that went into the portal and they didn't get picked up by anybody and then they went back to the original school to find that their spots were no longer there. This was passed on and on and on. It went viral. People in college football were talking about it. And I'm not I'm certain that Josh Pate talks with coaches. I'm sure that he has people that he's well connected to in the business. But I don't like that shit, bro, because I think he is helping to try to restrain the labor market in college football. Like you said, just trying to scare these kids and not really. I don't want to say who all I've talked to about this because people reach out to me, too. that a lot of these schools are cutting these kids and they don't but they they can let the media do their job for them and say look at all these kids trying to find their way to a different school and they're going in the portal and they're trying to scare the like top five to ten percent other people in the portal but not excuse the way of the other kids that they just wash away off their rosters and shit like that like they want to scare those kids into place but they want to be able to have the freedom to be like hey we ain't gonna have a spot for you go find somewhere to go let me let me ask you this i think all of that's fair um first of all uncle luke was really forceful and true uh about the idea that these kids are some of these kids are getting cut and they're going to get cut right if there's this much movement um then you're not you're no longer competing this was the thing with college football with college football is that you got on the team and you were competing against the rest of the guys on your team for playing time right you're going to be there four years most likely you're competing against those guys for playing time and maybe some guys that might come from other places yeah right that is over now on a year-to-year basis you're competing for your spot on your team with everybody in college football that's right like with with everyone in college football you're competing against a kid that might be playing getting tons of playing time at a school up the road from you that's not playing your same level football but getting reps snaps all of that stuff you complete peening with players that are more seasoned players that are sometimes less seasoned but have better high school careers right so that means that some players are going to get cut if other players become available that's the way that that works yes pro sports that's pro that's pro sports so that is definitely true secondly i'll ask you do you think that pate made that up that somebody told him that oh no i absolutely believe he heard it so then i guess what if if he heard that then how could you not report it uh i mean because what's the why are you hiding who the schools and the programs and players are there you know these aren't state secrets like they used to be and i know that pate doesn't consider himself a journalist but it didn't used to be that i could just pass along any rumor i heard in the name of reporting like when especially as a newspaper reporter the standard was you can use an anonymous source when it's a really high stakes matter and you're trying to protect watergate yeah you're trying to protect the identity of somebody so they don't get for their own protection lose their job not just i just want to kind of keep this quiet because i want to maintain this relationship also when someone would tell you something right you'd be like why why did they want that why do they want that out there so that's more of the pushback so so i understand this this kind of thing is odd and let me tell you why it's odd um when it you know shefter in sports this threshold is different when someone tells you difference between insider and journalist right the difference between insider and journalist more insider this threshold is different you sometimes have to give information to your people you have to tell people information or you have to report on things that have happened or stuff that has gone on or i give you an example this is an example that's not the college football right okay so there was a basketball player that was supposed to go on an aiden ross stream but then he told aiden ross that he couldn't go on that stream because uh or he told me he didn't want to go on the stream because of all the controversy over who aiden ross what aiden ross said about don't she and him being disrespectful and racist towards black women right like i know who that basketball player is like i i know who that guy is i know who said that i know the stuff don't guess joe don't guess don't guess if i was going to if i was going to talk about that if i was going to talk about that on higher learning the the inside information that i had about who that was and why it happened i wouldn't name who told me that or who the player is what would be important with is the information that that player feels like they can't go on with aiden ross because of all the controversy now aiden himself said that but anything else surrounding that context how it happened i wouldn't betray a source even to like not report on that in the same way i would at tmz but just to give my audience the nugget the conversation piece and if you're hearing from coaches about players if you're hearing stuff about sharon more if you're that's just the way it works they will not talk to you and you will have less information to do your show if you do not if you betray those conferences and i understand that that is a different standard and he does not consider himself a journalist i understanding the name of entertainment and content why josh pate has to do that but i also got into this business in part like i said because i believe in labor and i believe that the athletes particularly college athletes have been an exploited class of work forever forever and i'm always going to be on their side and if you have a problem with it i'm sorry i'll meet you at the whole oh my god actually now it's Wegmans it's Wegmans in Columbia you ever seen Josh before? oh I'm not gonna fight Josh he's not saying about you you were talking about Peyton you were just saying you have a problem with anyone you have a problem with my beliefs in the labor force Peyton likes some of the clips you know what I mean Peyton seems like a really nice guy he seems like he has good intentions He seems like probably the friendliest Republican you can, you know. He's a really nice guy. Jesus fucking Christ. He's a nice guy. But look, though. But look, this is what. And actually, you know what? Duke is the friendliest Republican. Duke is the friendliest Republican. Duke is the friendliest. But let me tell you something else about us. Yeah. Just so people know about us. I envision this show as we move on and kind of put a stamp on the end of the first season and move on to our off-season coverage. I envision this show as being a show where we're going to go to practices at some point, where we're going to hear from coaches. People have already, like, think about it. People have already hit me up about LSU coaching moves and stuff like that. I hear stuff all the time. I envision this show as being a place that people can come and not only hang with us, But every now and again, get an insider nugget, a first look nugget, and whatever. Like, I knew Southern's coach was going to be who he was going to be. Yeah, you told us that a few days before. And right. And so. I scooped Bill Belichick going to Carolina. Like, all of that stuff. I was called an idiot on this network. So those, like, who called you an idiot? Multiple people. That worked with the ringer? Yeah, they all laughed at it. call it out no i'm just saying then when it happened everyone was like man bill belichick's an idiot somebody no i mean it was it was more just like that that would never happen then it did happen who said it i can't remember it was like two years ago no you can remember you remember you don't want to say it's fine don't force him it's like you're ducking it don't make it uncomfortable kairi no but all i'm saying is like all i'm saying is like in that situation I understand your point and I do think that that happens I honestly think I honestly think I see stuff like this all the time I don't want to get into all of this shit I'm a big conspiracy theorist so I think that the Sexton clan the clan the Sexton crew like all of those guys maybe they are the clan the Sexton clan like all of those people I think that there's definitely oh Jimmy Sexton there's definitely some synergy there's definitely some synergy in the messaging and all of that stuff that comes out I'm not saying that it doesn't but you know we all have hope to have sources that deepen our knowledge and our proximity to like what's going on behind the scenes yeah man I would love to hear people for more people and be able to be more informed and pass along information but we got Bill getting Bob Chesney at UCLA, USC already hooked us up we're all going to hey next year we're all going to a USC game all going to a USC game we'll see we are Mike Loxley over at Maryland Mike Loxley over at Maryland Remember Ohio State Ohio State Don't get me wrong We got people now We got people What? That's right, that's good Yeah, we got people You know what, fuck the whole thing Well, anyway The Joel Award Niko Can we raise it? Raise the rule for Niko Imali Alpha I like that Nico led into a larger discussion, though. That was a nice final award. It's kind of what the best picture does, right? Someone wins best picture, and then it starts a huge conversation. It starts a conversation. That's right, man. So that's the Joel Award. All right. Well, also, I was trying to be nice to motherfuckers, but it was so dumb now that I was an idiot. What is this? What is it, Joel? What's happening? I was going to bring, man. So, you know, my favorite thing to do in L.A. is to go to Bristol Farms and get the cookie, man. It's my favorite. Oh. Oh, Bristol Farms is great. Bristol Farms. So last night, I wasn't, you know, I had a long day. I wasn't feeling great. And then I took a nap. Stomach's feeling better now, though. And then I went and got to Bristol Farms late at night. Joel was in the office yesterday. Just a steak pot farting it up, leaving a trailer all over the place. It was crazy, man. Yeah, but it was coming out both ends yesterday. What? Oh, my God. It was horrible. It was bad. And I parted yesterday. Yeah, you parted. We called him Joel Shit Pot Anderson. Well, anyway, this box has not been opened, okay? So just so you know, so you wouldn't feel sick, you know. Yeah, yeah. But anyway, but yeah, so this is a box. I wanted to give some to the team, some of these cookies. Oh, man. My favorite cookie for y'all, just so you know. That's why you're the MVP. That's why you're the MVP. I'm going to raise the roof. I was really grateful for this season and this podcast and you guys. Us too, man. I feel like, you know, we're going to be boys, you know what I'm saying? Of course. We're doing our thing. We're going to four games next year. We're going to the Duke's house in Miami. We are going to Miami. Yo, we got three bedrooms. We're going to Miami. Duke got a whole family. You got how many kids you got? Two. Two kids. Do they have godparents? Yeah. Damn. I thought it should be us. Hey, the other good news. Next year, national championship game, Las Vegas. Oh, that's easy. We're taking over Vegas. I'm going to be honest with you. If we don't make it to Vegas. Oh, we're going to Vegas. We the broke-ass niggas of college football. Hey, we're getting... Vegas is legitimately, guys, you could drive to Vegas and not on one tank of gas. Yeah. Yeah, so, like, Vegas is legitimately... Well, that's for y'all. Yeah, for you. Like, yeah, but you'd have to fly out here. I'd have to fly, yeah. But to Vegas, easy flight. Yeah. Easy flight. Well, I mean, it's easy for you all to leave the house. It's not as easy for me to just be gone. Why? For the national championship game How about the whole family comes out Yeah bring the whole family Do your kids have godparents No They don't God dad van Me and Desmond I'll show Desmond around Vegas He'll never be the same Should we stay on the strip and suite Or should we get a house in Henderson I've never been to Henderson Henderson's nice Henderson's very nice as much as i used to but i enjoy it while i'm there i used to go to vegas a couple weeks i used to go all the time i used to literally go four times a year yep what's so good about it what made it so nice i mean you can do a high in nice amazing version of vegas or you can do like a you know cd version of you can do whatever you want can i tell you what i think makes vegas nice i know we have to get out of here um i'm not a like party all night go crazy super drunk guy yeah but vegas is such a competitive town yeah in terms of hospitality that you you will rarely get treated better yeah in most cities than you will in vegas if something goes wrong with your room they're on top of it they you ask them where do i go what i do they have all types of ideas of how to do vegas and they'll when you talk to people they're very knowledgeable you'll say they'll say okay what are you trying to turn up and i'm like you know what i'm trying to get out here and enjoy myself and understand and they'll give you the whole thing yeah it's a place downtown vegas downtown it's a place to be taken care of you know yeah man that was that was less of a thing when i went more frequently yeah but i don't like go there i never went there and got in the pools and done all that crazy dumb ass shit people passing out it's a thousand degrees all that crazy that's not for me but i do like to go there and like like have a little fun and have some drinks and sees show terry fader i don't know who is that the puppet nigga who terry fader the guy with the fucking puppets okay i saw han zimmer last year in vegas on zimmer i saw uh david copperfield saw david copperfield i gotta see hillary duff in like three weeks there the fucking jabba walkies i've seen oh yeah jabba jabba y'all have really gone they dancing around yeah i've been seeing some shows go fucking see a show go to go go fucking shoot the machine guns the whole night. It's been the whole thing. I saw Celine Dion when I was a kid. Go to a basketball game in Vegas? I really wanted to do the Summer League thing. I've done that a bunch of times. That's the best weekend in Las Vegas. If you go there the first Friday and you're there on a Sunday, get out clean, great time. But if you stay too long, like I stayed there one time for like 10 days and I was like, I'm losing my mind. Oh, yeah. I stayed in Vegas for a 10-day stretch for work one time. It'll break you. I was really ready to go. Yeah. I don't know what's happening on the podcast right now. But yeah, it's a good time. Ringer tailgate, parting shots, any last thoughts? The cookies were amazing. Thank you so much, Joel. You don't know if they're amazing yet. These bitches might be whack. Those are good cookies. Have you ever been to Bristol Farms? Yeah, I used to go there and shoot for TMZ. I saw Halle Berry there one time. Oh. So many people see Halle Berry in L.A., man. She lives here. Right. I know, motherfucker. Oh, man. Joel, thank you for these cookies. Good for you, man. I'm just going to see Halle Berry out in public, dog. Yeah, I would freak out. We got cookies. Billy, Frias. Yeah, Billy, Frias. Brian is supposed to get one. Connor, whoever. Oh, man. That's sweet. That's sweet. All right. Hey, man, that's perfect. All right, we can go now. We can close. Well, those are the awards, the tailgate awards. We had some incredible times, an incredible season. Next week, the offseason starts for us, But I appreciate everybody joining in on the show. We'll raise the roof one last time. And we'll be back next week. Shout out to everybody for tuning in. And Ring Your Tailgate offseason starts soon. And we've got some good stuff for you. So we're continuing, Joel. It's still happening. We got some good stuff, y'all. We ain't playing shit. We got a lot playing. We got a lot playing. We'll see you in a week. 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