Christopher Nolan, Dave Grohl (Extended Cuts)

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Obviously, obviously I'm thrilled that Baby Yoda is getting a spin-off but I'm worried he's going to end up like all child stars. DUI Rehab then hosting his own Netflix dating show, Grogu's Bang Boy Beach. This new Star Wars film has plenty of big names because Jeremy Allen White will star and this is true. He is starring as Jabba the Hutt's son. Oh yes chef. Jabba, Jabba. I wouldn't, wouldn't be Star Wars without toys and tie-ins. For this movie Burger King is rolling the items out like BBQ Bounty Whopper and Imperial Cheddar Ranch Tots and Nabisco is launching Grogu Nila Nummies. An amazing treat for any kid who's always wanted to eat Grogu's eggs, skin, poop, we're not sure. I don't think this one was cleared over at Skywalker Ranch but today and this is absolutely true, Pornhub updated their logo to include the symbol of the Rebel Alliance which makes sense. Everybody loves Star Wars themed pornoes like Obi-Wan Combone Me, R2-D2 and of course Hand Solo. In this one, Hand definitely shoots first but stars aren't the only place the stars, okay, the race they come. Of course the stars aren't the only place there's a war, there's also one in Iran. Well, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you graphics department. Well over the weekend Iran submitted a 14 point plan to end the war. It's pretty one-sided. They propose that both sides lift their blockades of the Strait of Hormuz, Israel completely and the war in Lebanon. The U.S. release Iran's frozen assets require the U.S. to pay compensation and lift all sanctions against Tehran. In addition, Iran would get the new Grand Theft Auto, free guacamole and participating in Chipotle's and a hall pass to sleep with Lady Liberty's sister Tammy. Tammy's fun, Tammy's way more fun. Trump rejected the offer and yesterday he posted this image saying, I have all the cards, which may have seen this is cool except you might notice the cards Trump is holding are from the game Uno where quite famously the object is to get rid of all your cards. I have so many cards, no I have so many cards, look at this, I have so many cards, this idiot over here just hold on, there we go, there we go. This idiot over here just played a draw four and I get to draw four more. I got so many cards, I got the three of hearts, I got the blockbuster membership, Charizard, the longer this goes on, just the worst things get for average consumers. Last week, crude oil hit a wartime high trading above $126 and I'd say Iran has America over a barrel, but we can't afford a barrel. Can we do this over a bucket? As a result, today the average price of gas hit $4.46 a gallon. God knows what it's doing to the price of gas and ass. But, come on, ask your parents, ask your grandparents, but you got to give it to President Trump, he campaigned on $2 gas and now he's delivering more than twice what he promised. One Wall Street trader, thank you, did my own, did my own. One Wall Street trader explained why oil prices suddenly spiked, they thought this crisis in the straight would be short-lived due to the infamous taco or Trump always chickens out, but it turned into, it turned into a nacho which stands for not a chance, Hormuz opens. Well, if I may, I'd like to suggest my own acronym, Carnitas, which stands for can anyone recommend nursing home, I think his a brain sploded. The high price of fuel took its toll this weekend because yesterday, Spirit Airlines shut down. Oh no, I have three more weeks of shows to do. Now I won't have Spirit Airlines jokes. Quick, somebody check on Arby's. The Spirit Airlines of shaved beef. Spirit announced their immediate closure in a statement saying, all flights have been canceled and customer service is no longer available, which coincidentally was also Spirit's motto. One more for the road, baby. So Spirit is gone, but there are still plenty of safe and reliable airlines out there like United. What's new with them? Well, yesterday United Airlines plane struck a bakery truck on the New Jersey Turnpike. I know that sounds bad, but trust me, it looks so much worse. I'm going to show you the dash cam footage of the bakery truck, but first I just want to stress everyone's okay, which is surprising because check this out. Dash cam footage shows the moment a truck is struck. As the United Airlines flight approached Newark Liberty International Airport Sunday afternoon. If you look closely, you can see what appears to be the wheel of the plane out the driver's window. Okay, that is, I know that is shocking, but don't forget this accident was predicted 25 years ago by the opening of the Sopranos. Thankfully, thankfully, neither the driver or anyone on the plane was hurt and investigators are still trying to figure out what happened, but I think I found a clue. It turns out this flight was arriving from Italy's Marco Polo Airport. Well, there's your answer. Okay, okay, tower. Tower, we are coming in for landing. I'm just going to put on my blindfold. Marco. Marco, please, please respond Polo. I smell dinner rolls. Well, Spirit Airlines isn't the only iconic company we lost this weekend because after nearly 30 years of service, Ask Jeeves has shut down. If you're unfamiliar with Ask Jeeves, which went on to become Ask.com, it was an internet search engine originally depicted as a snooty British butler who was later 3D rendered and rebranded apparently as a pervert who liked to watch. In a statement, in a statement Jeeves parent company said, To you, the millions of users who turn to us for answers in a rapidly changing world, thank you for your endless curiosity, your loyalty, and your trust. Well, thanks a lot, Jeeves. That's what I was going to say on my last show. We got a great show for you tonight. Coming up, Christopher Nolan. Music Ladies and gentlemen, my first guest tonight is the Oscar-winning producer, writer, and director of such films as The Dark Knight, Dunkirk, and Oppenheimer. Please welcome back to the late show Christopher Nolan. Music Nice to see you again. Nice to be back here. Yeah, I know you don't do this very often. Don't do the late night shows very often. I do not. Only you actually. Oh really? Well, I'm quite honored. Well, we got the right audience for you. Not every director in the world gets a standing ovation and you know, you're a superstar director. Not every director is welcome in that seat, I want you to know. Well, thank you very much. I feel very honored to be here. It's actually our honor, unless they want to cast me in something, which case they can come on anytime they want. Last time we spoke was at Princeton at the Institute for Advanced Studies in Einstein's office. Yes. And here we are in the Ed Sullivan. Do you want to compare the vibes? I mean, the intellect is still here. You feel the waves of history coming off the wall. Sure. It's a slightly different way, but no, that was a fun time. That was a really cool thing to be able to be there in Einstein's office talking about everything. Yeah, unbelievable. We took the co-bear bump right the way to the Oscars. Thank you very much for that. You're welcome. Anytime. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. There you go. Okay, Oppenheimer, as you said, won seven Academy Awards, including Best Picture and Best Director. You chose to follow it up with just a small, not showy story. Yes. Just the bedrock of Western literature, the story of stories, the Odyssey. What was it about? I assume you're also a fan of the Iliad, but what is it about Homer? Why did you want to tackle this particular story? I mean, you're always looking for something that hasn't been done before. And Greek mythology, even though so many of us are familiar with it from when we're kids and the way in which it's the underpinnings of all stories, as you say, in Western literature. But it hadn't really been done on a big scale. I mean, I grew up with movies by greats like Ray Harryhausen, Clash of the Titans, things like that. But it hadn't really been done out of a budget, big studio, throw everything at the screen and see what sticks away. And that's the kind of gap you're looking for as a filmmaker. It's like, how can we get in there and really try and bring something new for audiences? It's just one of the great adventure stories. And I really wanted to see it done justice. So we just sort of dove in. And the story itself has, and the Iliad, have such depth behind them and implied depth. Basically, the Greek myths are all paying off in the Iliad and the Odyssey. A lot of scores are being settled between the gods with each other. And I know you don't want to give anything away about the film, but are there gods in it? Or is there any of the supernatural? Because Troy, like the movie Troy, it had none of the gods in it. Do you have any of the gods in it? I don't really want to give anything away. I mean, I know it's weird to talk about spoilers on a 3,000-year-old piece of literature, but a lot of the way as you New Testament, has it got that Jesus guy in it? You got that Jesus guy in New Testament? Oh! Christian Fernand, would you do like a Bible story? Would you do like something like Samson or something? Would you ever be interested in the Bible? I think let's see how this goes. Do we have gods in the movie? A lot of this is about the way in which we're taking these things on. We're trying to put all of the elements, we're trying to put all of the things in there that we all kind of remember about the Odyssey. You got a horse, I'm guessing. We have a horse. That much, I can tell you. We have a horse. You got a discus. We have a discus. We have psalmist because we have Penelope. We have this whole idea of what's going on in Ithaca, and this hero trying to get back to his family. I mean, earlier it's a story about a family, and this is a world where people saw gods in everything everywhere. So the thunder, the tides coming in, the wind blowing, that's all evidence of divinity that they're surrounded by. So what we're trying to do is take the audience and put them in that world and put them in that mindset, which is hopefully a good non-answer to your question. Yeah. Okay. I'm going to take that as a yes. Thank you very much. Okay, Matt Damon plays the title character Odysseus. You work with him before an interstellar, Oppenheimer, and those are both great roles, but supporting roles. Yeah. In that, why'd you risk one on Damon? Why did you? Yes, he's talented. Yes, he's handsome. Yes, he's intelligent, but... We tried him out a couple of times. Okay. Yeah. You know, just to see and everything. And no, I mean, look, the great thing about working with people who were just incredibly good at what they do, like Matt, is just one of the greats. I got to do a couple of movies with him, and then I got really that thrill of being able to call him up and say, how about Odysseus? And, you know, it's a one-word pitch. It's right there. And I warned him. I said, it's going to be very hard. And he's like, yeah, I know, I know, I know. I said, no, it's going to be very hard. He says the hardest film he's ever made. I think for all of us, it was an incredibly challenging movie in all the right ways. I mean, I like to say it was a nightmare in all the right ways. Right. It's just, it's a lot to take on. It's the Odyssey. It's the greatest epic in literature. And so it should be difficult. We did want to get out there and really try and do a lot of these things for real, really get out there on the seas, climb the mountains, go in the caves, all of that. You got all the gods to deal with. Oh, here you go. There you go. In one way or another, there's a certain odds towards that. Would you be comfortable in revealing whether you shot this film in order, like in order of the story? Would you be, would you tell us that? Well, the story's written in a nonlinear way. It's the original kind of nonlinear narrative. You start, you know, kind of halfway through the story. He's telling a lot of the story to like the, in the Nossaka's father's palace or something like that. Well, we're, what we're jumping off on is the Ithacus. We start in Ithaca. We start with the song of Odysseus. We start with this story. Everyone is sitting there going, okay, we know the Trojan War ended 10 years ago. Where is he? He hasn't come back. He left 20 years ago and things are not altogether wonderful in his kingdom. Because Penelope's having to put off all these suitors who want to be the new king. Exactly. So Penelope's played by Anne Hathaway, who I've also worked with a couple of times before. And you catch that Devil Wears Prada movie? I watched it last night. Yeah, fabulous. With Emily Blunt as well and everything. Yeah, terrific. And her son is played by Tom Holland, who's amazing. Who I've not worked with before, but would love to work with again. I mean, he's just an incredible talent as everybody else but me knew before I sort of got into it with him. But he's so, so great. And they're, you know, holding the fault in Ithaca, fending off the suitors, the lead suitors played by Rob Pattinson, who I've also worked with before. And yeah, so it really is a story about ultimately about homecoming. She was Catwoman. He was Spider-Man. He was the Batman. And we have Jason Bourne as well. Oh yeah. Is it Jason Bourne? Would we, like, are superheroes directly related to these sort of Greek heroes? Very directly. God, they are. I mean, they're the original superheroes. And a lot of, I mean, even comic book culture, whether you're talking about Marvel or DC or all the rest, a lot of it comes pretty directly from the Homeric epics. And the thing about Homer is nobody knows if that was a person. You know, they don't know. I mean, Homer, in a way, is the sort of George Lucas, maybe, of his time. I mean, nobody really knows if this person was a, whether it was more than one person. We don't even know if Homer was Homer's name. Exactly. After all, Ovid was Ovid's middle name, so you never can tell. Oh, there you go. You're pulling rank again. But that's, yes. Two Blasio videos, not so. I don't have to tell you. Oh, man. You don't have to tell me, because I wouldn't know what the hell you were saying. But I, absolutely, I mean, the thing about Homer is, yeah, it's the marvel of its day. I mean, that's the thing. And so I think there's very directly this desire for us to feel or believe that gods could walk amongst us. And I think the modern comic book is kind of our expression of that. What did you first encounter, the Odyssey? I think, like a lot of people, it was, I think it was like a school play that, you know, I was one of the younger kids and the older kids, you know, I was probably only four or five. You know, they were doing some kind of, you know, primary school, elementary school production, where they had, you know, him strapped to the mast and the sirens and, you know, did some version of the horse and whatever. And yeah, you just, it's a story that we all kind of know a bit about. And we've made the film really for people who haven't read it and don't know anything about it and could come to it really fresh. But, you know, a lot of people have a really interesting relationship with this literature. And one of the things I found as I was adapting it was it's basically all the other films I've done before. All those stories are in there, whether you're talking about Interstellar or The Dark Knight, all these bits and bobs, they all come from the Odyssey. So you get to kind of, you know, revisit that and look at it in its original form. Well, speaking of revisiting that, we have an unusual treat. Christopher Nolan and our friends at Universal, hello Universal, have brought us a brand new trailer. No one's seeing this, right? No. Okay, for the Odyssey. We're going to roll this for you and for the people at home. And don't go anywhere because we'll be right back right after this is over with more Christopher Nolan. Anything we need to set up here? Not if I've done my job right. Let's find out. Ivan. Tell me what you remember. A life? A son? None of that. We want more. Help me go home. This is a household waiting for a master. I want you to choose me. Ethicus King is coming back. No, he's not. But what do you do if he came back here and find all these suitors in his house? You're pining me for a daddy. He didn't even know. Like some sniffling pastor. Who's looking after your wife and son? Do you see? My dad is coming home. Bringing vengeance. Bringing it all. I need everyone at this party dead. I can still save them. You're a man who needs to control his fate. But you cannot control this. That world is gone. No one could stand between me and home. Not even the gods. Keep us free. I think it's asleep. It appears you did your job right. Now an unbelievable cast besides Damon and Hathaway, Tom Holland, Robert Pattinson, John Leguizamo. We haven't seen Lupita Nyong'o and we haven't seen Zendaya. Corey Hawkins, just a ton of other talent. It's an incredible cast and they all just work so hard for the movie and really deliver the goods for me. It was a thrill to work with them all. Was this hard for you to direct? Damon said it was hard to do. Yeah. Yeah. It was hard. Physically difficult? It was physically difficult for all of us. We really wanted to take the audience out on a ship in a storm for example and other other animals. You do practical effects. We do a lot of practical effects. How did you do either Charybdis or Silla? Is this Charybdis or is this Silla? That's Charybdis. Okay. That's Silla. Okay. You just pulled a drain in a tub and filmed that going down or something? I don't want to reveal all the tricks. I mean, I will say. Or did you actually get a God to do it for you? I will say we use pretty much every technique in the book on this movie. We really try to do everything but we do try. I mean, I have an incredible visual effects supervisor, an amazing team of artists who work on it. But we try to do our job which is to get as much in camera, as much on screen as possible before they have to add that little bit extra. So, yeah, really we tried a lot of different techniques. I think I caught a glimpse of fur in there. Is that Odysseus' dog Argos? It is indeed. Wow. It is indeed. Wow. Which is one of the greatest moments in the whole story. No spoilers. No spoilers. No spoilers. No spoilers. But yes, it is one of the greatest moments in the story. It's really one of the things that hooked me. I'm a new dog owner. Oh, really? It's nice. Yes. Thank you. Like new to dogs? New to dogs. New to dogs. I'd never had a dog growing up. For me. Didn't have a dog when my kids were young. We denied that. And then as soon as they left for college, we got a dog. And then I thought. What do they feel about that? They were a little bitter. But they love the dog too when they get to visit. And I decided to do the Odyssey because it is the ultimate dog story. The film was shot entirely. It's the first film shot entirely on IMX cameras. Yes. Okay. What does that mean to you as a director? Why? A, why do you want to do that? And what are the challenges of that? I fell in love with IMX film when I was about 16. Going to films at the Museum of Science and Industry in Chicago. Like documentaries that were shot on IMX. And I always felt like what if you told a giant Hollywood story in this format? So on the dark night, I convinced the studio, I convinced IMX to let us try and do our action sequences, which we did, just the action scenes on IMX. And then over the years, I've tried to use the format kind of more and more. Things like Interstellar and Oppenheimer and everything. We tried to do more and more of the film. But what I always wanted to do was do the entire movie that way. Couldn't do it because the cameras are so noisy. Literally. The mics would pick up the camera. The film is huge. It's this giant, medium format size film. So it's running through 24 frames a second. You know, this massive film. So it's a very, very noisy camera. So as the software solutions are filtering out camera, I always got better. I did tests with some of the stuff that's shot with Killian and Oppenheimer. Where the IMX camera is very close and he's speaking and we at AD Audit. And I could uncover his original dialogue, but he was shouting over the camera. So it was the wrong performance. And that's the problem is what we needed was a way to get a camera, get an IMX camera that you could actually shoot the dialogue. It could be as close as we are and you could perform in front of it. So we challenged IMX to do that. We said, we're doing the Odyssey. This is the story. If ever there were a story where you want to do the whole thing on IMX, this is it. So can you find a way to build an enclosure for the camera? They built us new cameras. They built us this box that you put the camera in. I mean, it's giant. It weighs about 400 pounds, but it silenced the camera. So we could do very intimate scenes. A new type of camera that's for shot on. Brand new camera. Is this called the Nolan now? It is not. Actually, it's called the Keely and it's named after my friend David Keely, who sadly passed just as we were finishing the dailies on this film before we edited it. And he had been my IMX mentor for almost 20 years. And he's the guy who made so much of what we've done possible. And I'm proud to say that before he passed, he was able to finish approving all of our last dailies and printing those. And we miss him greatly, but I'm thrilled. I'm absolutely thrilled that he's memorialized in the name of this brand new camera, which is its I mean, IMX film is the highest quality imaging format that's ever been built. Well, as you can tell from the audience and from me, people are very excited about your film. And obviously you're a great director and people want to see what you're going to do next. But there's something about this story itself, as you're saying before, strikes such a chord with people. What people may not know is that there isn't just the Ili and the Odyssey. We know there were like 24 different epic poems that were about the Trojan War and afterwards. It was sort of the thing that every ancient poet had to take his crack at. The same way like a Renaissance artist had to do the annunciation to the Virgin by Gabriel. Or in the mid 20th century, every director had to do a Western or something like that. What do you think it is about this story that still today resonates with an audience and still meaningful to us? I think there are a lot of things that go into that. I mean, yes, as you say, there's the mythological sort of background of the Trojan War and all of the different stories that come out of it. And that's where I liken it to something like Star Wars or Marvel or something where you have this sort of history, this conflict that's bigger than whatever individual take on the story. You choose. The reason I think the Odyssey is the most interesting of those takes is it's about family and it's about homecoming. It's very, very relatable. So even though you're dealing with an incredible character, Matt plays the extraordinary Wiley Odysseus who's brilliant and a great warrior and all of these things. But ultimately, he's also a husband and a father and he needs to get back home to his family. And this is the story of can he do that? Will he make it? What will that journey be? Well, Christopher, thanks so much for being here. Always a pleasure to talk. The Odyssey will be on theaters on July 17th. Christopher Nolan, everybody. Coming up, Dave Grohl. Hi, my name is Lloyd Lockridge and I'm the host of a new podcast from Odyssey called Family Lore. In this podcast, I'm going to have people on to tell unusual and sometimes far-fetched stories about their families. I've heard my whole life that she ended at the margarita. And then we're going to investigate those stories and find out how much of it is true. He gets a patent one month before the Wright Brothers. Oh my God. Please follow and listen to Family Lore, an Odyssey podcast available now on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your shows. Welcome back. Safe. My next guest is a 19-time Grammy Award-winning rock and roll Hall of Famer from Foo Fighters and Nirvana. Please welcome back to the late show Dave Grohl. Nice to see you again. Hey, man. How you been? I'm good. Foo Fighters have been together for 31 years. That's true. Okay. Was there a specific moment when you knew you were ready to start a new band after Nirvana? Well, yes, there actually was. There was. When Nirvana ended, I wasn't sure what to do. I didn't know if I wanted to continue playing music. It made me sad to think of playing in another band. Losing Nirvana, losing Kurt was a really dark emotional experience. I thought, I just need to get my head together. I rented a car and drove around the Ring of Kerry in Ireland. That's beautiful. And I was out. It's so gorgeous. One of the most beautiful places in the world. I was driving on this country road and there were sheep and it was a great day. And then the green rolling hills. And all I wanted to do was disappear. And as I was driving down this country road, I see a hitchhiker. And he had a Kurt Cobain T-shirt on. And to me, I thought, okay, this is the universe telling me you have to continue. Like you have to move on. You have to go forward. Music has always been the love of my life. It's helped me through some of my most difficult moments. And when I saw the kid with the Kurt Cobain T-shirt, I thought, okay, I need to keep going. I have so much reverence and respect for the past, but I need to have a future. And that's kind of where it began. Well, 31 years later, you guys and the Foo Fighters have been through a lot together. As highs and lows. And what is the best benefit of being with the same group of people for so long? It's weird. After over the years, the music kind of just becomes this amazing sort of bonus to the relationships that we have together. So we've known each other. I mean, I've been in this band more than half my life. And so when we get together, we vacation together, our kids hang out with each other. We're like, we really are kind of this big extended family. So I get to hang out with the fellas like every day. And they're the coolest people in the world. And then at the end of the day, it's like, oh, now we get to go jam for three hours in front of 20,000 people. It's like, this is the greatest gig in the world. It does. You do make it sound good. It's really good. Last year, last year, Nirvana reunited for two performances, FireAid, FireAid Benefant Nelly and SNL 50. You guys don't do that very often. What is it like when you all get together to breathe life back into those songs? Well, again, I think sometimes when people think of bands, they just think of instruments and songs and stuff. But it really is this connection of people and life experience and relationships with other human beings. And then you put on guitars and play music and that translates. Your love and respect and the relationship you have with the other person really comes through the music. So with Nirvana, it's like, oh my god, we went through some crazy stuff. And so when we get together to play, it's a wild experience. Because when it's me and Kristina Vaselec and Pat Smir, when we sit down and start into smells like teen spirit in a small room, nobody else makes that noise. It sounds like smells like teen spirit. And we don't do it often. And so when it does come around, it's like a comet. It's like this comet is coming back around and you see it street by and it's like... Your daughter Violet, Violet Girl right there, has her first album coming out at the end of the month. Now, okay, you being the old man of the mountain here, what advice do you have for her as a young artist starting off in the career? I got a couple of kids in music. What advice should I pass on to them? I would say that first and foremost, that the reward has to be the music itself. So you work hard and you want to be successful and you want to be the best that you can be. But at the end of the day, the most important thing is your love of music and that you love the music that you're making. That's the reward. And when you get to go perform in front of people, that is the reward. Everything else is bells and whistles and it's really great when it starts getting really great. But at the end of the day, it's like you want to wake up and feel like that 10-year-old kid that was trying to learn Edgar Winters Frankenstein on the bed. And then you figure out the song and you play it once without making a mistake. You're like, and then that's the reward right there. So, you know, and also, you know, as I've told Violet, I want her to really to appreciate these early experiences, you know, like don't wish any of this away and don't get too ahead of yourself. Just like be in the moment right now as hard as it can be sometimes and you're sleeping. I mean, when I think about the first time we came here, the first time we came to this theater was 1995. And it was our first television appearance on the Letterman show. And I think about then, and it was like, I mean, back then we were torn in a van and we had a trailer hitched up to the back of it. And I would try to, I have fond memories of those days that have served as a beautiful, practical and emotional foundation for everything that came after. And so I hope with Violet that she's, first of all, she's an incredibly talented artist. And she's has a beautiful voice. But I really want her to appreciate this now part because this now part does become the foundation of everything that comes next. And so just be in the moment and appreciate the music. Well, it's not going to appreciate any music. Foo Fighters have a new album, Your Favorite Toy, the band's 12th studio album. How'd you land on the name of this album, Your Favorite Toy? You know, it's funny, there's a song that's called Your Favorite Toy. But when I first wrote it, it was called For Good. And there's a line that says, get back here, that boy, someone threw away your favorite toy for good. And I'm like, wow, okay, For Good. That's such a great name that has it. But and like a week later, I see the Wicked movie comes out. I'm like, man, what the damn, yeah, took it. Yeah, you could have surfed that wave though. You could have gotten right on that Wicked. I feel like people would have bought this thinking it was that or bought that. Thinking it was this. That's true. It would just be kind of a mess. That's true, exactly. Is it true you try to give some fans a sneak peek of this? Like you try to luck somebody into some Foo Fighters music? I'm still old school where I love doing things myself. And I love the DIY ethic of being in a band. And I had a day off and I thought, oh, you know what I'll do? I'll burn 20 CDs of our album before it's come out. And me and my daughter Harper will get construction paper and we'll make album covers. And I'll stick it in the CD and then I'll go run around and hide them in places all over the San Fernando Valley. Did it say Foo Fighters on it? Oh, yeah. And so I put one at an Ikea. I put one at a Barnes & Noble. But the craziest part is that I would walk in and I've got them hidden because I didn't want anybody to see. And so I'm already sketchy enough. And I see like the security guard person is like kind of eyeing me and I'm watching. It looks like I'm shoplifting. Right. But I'm doing the opposite. Right, right. And so I walk in and I'm looking around and I'm in Barnes & Noble and I'm like, okay, do I want to put it behind note that book? That book sucks. What about this book? If I could and I like drop it and then run out of there. And I almost got busted in Ralph's. I went back to the charcoal aisle, stuck it under a bag of Kingsford. And as I was walking out, the security guard was looking at me like, which like, but I got away with it. Do you know if anyone found any of these? Yeah, they all got found. Wow. Yeah. Because then we start, of course, we posted like the little clues. It turned into like a scavenger hunt. And who doesn't love one of those? Everybody does. Okay. You guys are on tour. Yeah. Two fighters on tour this summer. It's been 40 years since little you went out on tour because you were a teenager. Yeah. The first time little you went on tour for the first time. Is it more enjoyable now that you're not couch surfing? Big time. No. I mean, as I said earlier, it's those early years and those early experiences. But room service. Like when I was here with my mom. Oh yeah, that was wonderful to meet your mom. My mother wrote a book years ago and she and I sat on the couch and did an interview here at the studio. And my mother was such an incredible person. She was a public school teacher for 35 years. And she was such a brilliant, kind, compassionate, empathetic, altruistic, incredible, funny, charming, sweet, just the coolest person I've ever met in my life. She was a teacher at my high school and I wasn't good at high school. I wasn't good at elementary school either. Actually, we brought my report cards when we were here. Anyway, but she was so cool that she realized I was just terrible at school. She also realized I wasn't like a complete, I'm not going to say the word, but she understood like, okay, there's something you'll be able to figure life out. She thought she had faith in me that I could do that. So I left to go on tour and I was 17 years old and it was basically me asking my mother, hey, I have an opportunity to tour the world. I want to leave school. And she said, you should go do that because you suck at school. And here we are, 40 years later. Well, congratulations on finding the thing you don't suck at. Thanks, man. 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