Industry leaders are transforming business with AWS AI. From Phillips advancing patient care to smarter auto design and games that evolve in real time. AWS AI is how innovation happens every day. Part of the interruption for Mike Wolfman is a bold game on the mothership, Tony. So we are on the juice. Tony Kornhiser, you know what I say. What? We give you no juice when we're on the juice. Yeah, yeah. What's the bowl game? How do you fire that? Is it the Tootsie Roll Bowl or the Pop Tarts Bowl? You've seen the names of some of the games. They're weird. They're weird. Some of them border on the offensive. Yeah, I do. I think that's probably true. Yeah. You know, but whatever happens is just... There's only 400 people playing. Remember when we used to make fun of the pool and weed eater bowl? Now that would be a staple. That would be like the orange bowl. That sounds like a classic. Yeah, it does. Sounds like a classic. Welcome to PTI Boards and Girls. In today's episode, the Knicks win a title. Macklin-Cell-Obrini scores a goal you will want to see. And Stevie-Om joins us for five good minutes. But we begin today with breaking news that the Miami Dolphins have benched quarterback Tua Tunga-Vialoa and will turn to seventh round rookie pick Quinn Ewers out of Texas. Coach Mike McDaniel said all options were on the table after Tua was ineffective against the Steelers for most of Monday night's game. Well, Bon, we know the Dolphins are eliminated from the playoffs this year. But what could this mean for their future and for Tua's? Not much good for anybody, so it seems to me. You know, Tony, talking hands get paid to overreact. And now they're official days, overreaction, Monday, overreaction, Tuesday. And that's what people like us, we get paid to overreact. It seems to me now that coach has overreact, that the whole damn NFL community overreacts to everything, particularly quarterback performances and particularly quarterback performances that aren't great. They weren't great. He wasn't great. I'm not going to make the argument that like Tua's untouchable. That's right. But you know what? They signed Tua to a lot of money. Yes, they did. And he's making like NBA money. So why would they pay him that money if they didn't see something along the way that suggested Tua had enough talent and ability to execute to move the Dolphins to something. Now they go to a guy chosen in the seventh round, Quinn Ewers, who may or may not be any good. And as soon as he has one game, it will all be overstated. Well, this season is shot, so it doesn't really matter what they do for the rest of the season. Look, Tua has no future with the Dolphins as long as Mike McDaniel is the coach. Mike McDaniel has seen enough of him. He knows that he is 3-12 and his last 15 starts against winning teams. That is not a blueprint to go anywhere in the playoffs because in a playoffs, you only face winning teams. Now, if Mike McDaniel gets fired and the last guy got fired was a GM, the next head up on the block is the coach's head. If Mike McDaniel gets fired, then maybe someone else can come in and resurrect Tua at this point. Tua has a contract through 2028. How's this for a number? If they cut him, they lose $99 million in dead money. $99 million. They have to pay him $56 million next year. So the Dolphins may be stuck with him. That contract feels like it makes the thing that Kirk Cousins had with Atlanta look like a piece of cake. Well, so what do you think, because all these guys consider themselves geniuses, will somebody else look at Tua and say, I can do something with him? I think they will. Look, he leads the league in Interceptions, which is a good. He's got 20 touchdown passes and 15 Interceptions. That's James Winston Land. That's no good. But the Dolphins aren't any good. And they haven't been good for a long time. I found this out today and I was stunned. You know the last time they want to play a game? 2000. 2000, right? The Dolphins in our lifetime, 2000. They're no good. They were supposed to be running the ball. They discovered this running game. They won five out of six. What happened to that? They ran the ball 16 times Monday night in Pittsburgh and Nicole. How about running it 32 times against Pittsburgh and Nicole? They were down. If that's your strength. They were down 28. Yeah, but they got there because of the turnovers, including the Interceptions and ill-advised stupid passing. Run the ball. By who? By the quarterback who's now gone. Let's move to the NBA and the NBA cup, which will now reside in New York in Madison Square Garden. As the Knicks beat the Spurs last night, 124 to 113. The Spurs led by two at the half. They were up by 11 with two minutes to play in the third quarter. The Knicks blew the game open in the fourth, beating the Spurs 35-19 in those 12 minutes. Well, I know you love Wemba and Yana and the Spurs. I do. Do you now take the Knicks more seriously as a contender? No, because I already have the Knicks winning the Eastern Conference. I can't go much further than that. They don't did top of the conferences as far as you can go. There's no threat from Boston this year. Not without Jason Taylor. There's no threat from the Pacers this year. Not without Tyree Tapper. Really? And then, so Cleveland's there. I don't think six places. They are. They have not performed. No threat from the Sixers. They have six places. And I'm not ready for a land deal, man, because they may not even be in the playoffs. No. So it's the Knicks. This is exactly what I'm thinking. The one team ahead of them is Detroit. But how can you not consider the Knicks a contender? The favorite. At the moment, they're 18 and 7. Favorite. They've won six in a row and 10 out of 11. One thing I care about. You watched more this last night than I did. I watched a half. I knew you were sneaking watch. Watched a half. And you should. You should. Thank you. Jason Brunson is great to watch. Now you love watching. He hits somebody in the chest every time he comes down the court. I got one thing to say. It's all I care about. I said yesterday, they better not put a damn banner up for a stupid cup contrived made up by the marketing people and Adam Silver to appeal to the soccer heads under the age of 12 that followed that league by clips. They put that banner up. Are you in favor of putting the banner up? How do you feel about the Lakers? A better plan to try. They shouldn't do it either. They did it. It's embarrassing. The Knicks have a lot of rafter space. I talked about this yesterday. They can put it up sometimes. Here's what I was looking for last night. Do you remember we discussed yesterday that everybody on the winning team would get $530,000? Pretty good. What I wanted, this was my dream. Adam Silver at mid-court wearing a green eye shade and an Emirates shirt handing out 20s and 50s and 100s to Jaylen Brunson. I thought that would be great. That's a nice win for the Knicks. Do you know that they had 32 second chance points on 23 offensive rebounding. You know what, 10. Robinson had 10 offensive rebounds, including 5 and 90 seconds. Are you going to get excited about them now? Or are you going to wait? I'm going to wait because it's December. It's the Knicks. It's December. It's 60 games left. I'm going to wait. Your alternative is getting excited over the Washington Wizards. No, there. No, no. Don't start. Don't just give me your alternative. Don't start. Now to a notable night in the National Hockey League. Sharks Fina, Macklin Celebrini took this pass. While skating backwards, as you can see, spins scores. Nice. But what is four points on the night spin on Emma? Leon Dryside of the Oilers got his 1,000th career point on an assist against the Penguins. Team-mate Karna McDavid, later bamboozled Stewart Skinner. He's good. He's good. He's just traded to Pittsburgh. Nathan McKinnon in the abs had two goals in an assist to up his league leading total to 58 points in just 33 games. And the Maple Leaf scored twice in just eight seconds late. To Ty, didn't beat my Blackhawks. So which of these stands out to you? So I love watching hockey highlights. I have to watch them four times at super slow mode to know what's going on. Everybody in the arena is cheering and I'm going, what? Especially celebrating. Something just happened. Celebrating. That was wonderful. I never liked covering hockey when I was a sports writer. Writing a column is different. You're writing. You're focusing on one specific thing you can do that. Being a beat writer in hockey is hard. It went too fast for me. I will get to these things. The individual stuff. Celebrini is fabulous. He may be the next Gretzky. Everybody may be the next Gretzky for an hour and a half. You don't know that. McKinnon leads the league in goals. He's not going to be. And in points. He's not the next Gretzky. You're impressive 58. But how many do you think Gretzky had the same number of games one year? 100. I happen to know this. I happen to know this for a fact. Scoring two goals in eight seconds is pretty cool. But for me, it's dry sideline McDavid. Because dry sideline McDavid are at the top of the charts. Well, you took them in combination. That's what I want. And you know why I get that? Because they are Kinseko and McGuire. They're the Basz brothers. They are. But at some point they got to cash in. And the Basz brothers do it once. Two years in a row, Stanley Coppano. No, no, no, no. You got to skate with the cup and take it home and bathe in it and do all those things. The cup has to belong to you. Bathe in it? Maybe not bathe. It's not that big a cup. No, it's not. It really isn't. Look, the Maple Leafs, they scored two eighths. They were down, I think, three, nothing. It had to be. They scored twice in eight seconds. The Blackhawks got off to a great start this year. And Mike Connor was like third in goal scored. Wait, he's out, isn't he? He's out now. And the Blackhawks have lost like seven of eight. How is it always the most Chicago-centric show in the universe? Why? Let's take a break. Coming up, Puka Nakua, the NFL refs quote the worst. We're going to ask Steve Young how he would feel if one of his receivers had said that. We're also going to ask him whether he would have thrown that pass. Caleb Williams. Caleb Williams. Another Chicagoan. That's right. Transplanted Washingtonian, but now a Chicagoan. Stopped on the way in Norman, Oklahoma. And LA. And UCLA, right? Oh, USC, not UCLA, USC. Stopped in LA, though. Haven't had a minute. Two years here. From 30 for 30 podcasts. Brian Pada, senior defensive lineman from Miami. Gunned down. The key to this case, it's Brian. An hour before he died, he was on the phone arguing with somebody. This might be a hit. You want the truth. They just want a conviction. They're placing to arrest. We had a killer amongst us. Murder at the U. Listen now. We've got some NFL questions for our great friend and the man who along with Jerry Rice was just named a head coach for the NFL Pro Bowl games and event that Wilbond hates. All a famed quarterback, Steve Young. Let's start with this. Philip Rivers, you succeeded in your first game back. What, if anything, do you need to adjust as the opposition defense adjusts to what you have just put on tape? Well, first of all, he put something on tape. Like, come on. I can't believe you didn't get hurt. You didn't pull a muscle. Like, I thought it was remarkable in his post game when he's weeping about my home. The my boys see this, that you can take risks. That whole thing was amazing. So, you know, kudos to him. Now you talk about the facts on the ground as the 49ers go to play them. What are they going to do? The problem is Philip can't throw the ball far. You know, that's why you quit, right? Because your arm gives out and you can't throw it hard. And so there's, they're going to put a 15 yard kind of bubble around him so that the defense now creep, creep, creep, creep. They're not going to let you throw the flat, throw a screen, then throw something short over the middle. They're going to force you. They'll go one on one. Anything more than 15 yards, they'll go one on one. Figuring they can figure it out as the ball kind of takes a little time to get there. And they just double triple on anything short. Because remember, he threw for 120 yards. And in the end, if they can keep that from happening, that's going to really limit. Now the problem that the 49ers have playing the Colts is if Jonathan starts running the football and you got to go from the 40 to the, to the opposite 30 to go kick a field goal, he can throw a couple passes here and there. And that's the problem. If they let, if they, and the 49ers are lousy against the run right now. So if they get running the football, Phillip Rivers, he might, he's almost one or no. He'll, he can get a win here if he can kind of hang in there with it and stay healthy and not pull a groin, man. Cause I, I still can't believe you didn't pull something. And I, it's just hard to do. Come off the couch like that. All right. Unlike Tony, I'm tired of Phillip Rivers now. I've had enough of Phillip Rivers. So I want to ask about somebody half his age, Puka Nakua, who told the neon live stream that NFL refs are the worst and make calls to get on TV. Some of them, Steve, if one of your wide outs had done this during the week, your reaction would have been what? Well, first of all, I got to, I know Puka, that had to be tongue in cheek. There's no way he's looking for trouble. But the fact is that gets said, the context is not there. And so now I'm an official, I'm hearing about this. It's a problem. We're, it's humans, right? And humans are going to say like, cause in my mind, the two calls on the field that are so frustrating for fans, players, and coaches is holding and pass defensive, pass interference. And the defensive pass interference in particular, because you can change a whole game, get 40 free cheap yards by looping up a ball. Something goes haywire. And like the game is so, you know, dynamic and, and, and tough. And then all of a sudden it's like this crappy throw gets credited. So, and he's got to be careful because the league, all the rules are for the offense. Safety rules have all worked against the defense. Puka should say, oh my gosh, I can't believe all the calls I get. I can't believe all the room I have to run. I know that's who he is and that's how he feels about it. He probably should come out and clarify it because you do not want, as they go into the playoffs, having a side of side judge or field judge going, you know, I don't want to get on TV, Puka, actually. So we're going to let that one ride. Like you want, you want all the calls. So he's got to figure that one out because that's not what you want. Anyone on the field to be talking about the officials. I don't know if this comparison is being made in the Bay Area, but in Chicago, people are maybe obsessively comparing that Caleb Williams passed to DJ Moore. They're comparing it to Joe to Dwight, which is a dangerous thing. But you know the past. I'm talking about Steve, when you have attempted that pass. Half of my, most of my career was no, no, no, no, no. No. Yes. Right. Like that's how you do it. Yeah. Like you, you take risks, you take. And look, I want every fan who loves pro football to have a chance to put a helmet on and stand behind the line of scrimmage with the perfect, that perspective. We all watched the super slow-mo as a ball slides barely by a fingertip and catches for a touchdown. You know, it's like we don't play in super slow-mo. We play at field level where the visibility is really little and you have to take all kinds of judgments. And that's why the great players, Michael, as you know, have this ability to the calculus of the moment to know where the ball needs to be compared to how fast the guy's running, how fast the defender, what the body position is of three or four guys and then fit something in and pull it off. That's the magic of the position. So look, Caleb's still young. He's still getting used to the speed of the NFL. But those are the kind of throws that I think when he lets them go, you could say to yourself, I knew it would be OK. And he'd actually be telling you the truth. It seems insane. But it was the kind of throws that he's going to make into the future and he's going to get better and better at him as he works on that calculus and gets more used to the speed. By the way, to follow up real quick, did it remind you of Joe to the white? I know in Chicago, you're so desperate, bro. We are. I know how it's going right now. Like we got a quarterback. Like in your lifetime, we got somebody and then we can be great. We go to the playoffs. We can win a Super Bowl. Ah, it's the catch. It's the catch too. Yeah, we're there. Like, no, relax, bro. Yeah, it's not there yet. Thank you for telling him to relax. Yeah, need the positive brakes. Here's what's great. Here's what's great. Will Boncisse on the show when he says, I'm tired of Phillip Rivers, but Caleb Williams, let's ask nine questions about Caleb Williams. He's not 74 years old. Let's talk about the two of us. Get you out of here. Summer casting the Patriots lost to the Bills as something that can actually benefit New England. As somebody who played on that field, do you subscribe to the theory of good losses? I actually subscribe and have auto renew. You know what I mean? Because you, you, every law, the great teams, every loss is a good loss. In other words, we're going to make it work. We're going to make, we're going to learn. The right law used to teach about what we lose. We learn and we're going to, we're going to use it as fuel so that this doesn't happen again. And the great teams see every loss as that opportunity rather than something to kind of be moan, talk about the mitigating factors that, oh, we almost had it. And then that weird thing happened, all this stuff that you get lost in victimization, like, no, there, every loss can be a great loss, but you got to make it such. And so the great teams, like I think the looks like the Patriots are coming back with really solid new players and an offense that seems, I don't, I like to watch it. It's like, you know what, they're a team that's, I think what Mike can say, that's a great loss and make it such easy to say, hard to do. But in my mind, every loss you throw up in your mouth a little bit, it's terrible. Like it's acidity, it's like it's gross, but you can make it great. What a pleasure to have you. Even if you're forced to talk about Caleb Williams. Thank you. Who likes Caleb? Come on now. Enough with Caleb Williams. Let's take one last break. Still to come, the man who many consider to be the best boxer in the world retires, but will it be for good? And Carlos Alcaraz splits with his longtime coach. What's up with that? Steve and Caleb, I bet you they're identical size, identical. I bet you. I'm going to find out during the break. Identical. Tight. Weight. Report back after the break. 911, where is the emergency? It's the middle of the night in a small town on the Jersey Shore. Someone reports an abandoned car on a bridge. A search gets underway for the missing driver, 19 year old Sarah Stern. Is it a missing person? Is it a suicide? At this point, nobody knows. Old friendships, buried cash and a sinister plot that was once pitched as a movie plays out in real life. I'm Juju Chang from 2020 and ABC Audio. Listen now to Bridge of Lies, wherever you get your podcasts. Part of the interruption is presented by Great Goose. Make time wait. Please enjoy responsibly. Part of happy hour. Happy time, people. Happy 35th birthday, Tyler and Taylor Rogers. The identical twins pitched in the National League this season. Tyler O'Reidy was four and six with San Francisco in the Mets. Taylor O'Lefty was three and two with the Reds and Cubs. Amazingly, they were both traded on the same day, July 30th. The Rogers twins grew up in Colorado. Tyler was drafted in the 10th round in 2013 by the Giants. Taylor was drafted twice, once by Baltimore as a high school player in 2009. And then by, get this, the twins in the 11th round of the 2012 draft. Overall, Tyler is 26-23 with a two, seven, six, ERA over seven seasons. Taylor is 31 and 36, a three, 34 ERA over 10 seasons. And in 2023 and 24, they both played together on the Giants, the fourth set of twins to ever play for the same major league team. You see this submarine, who's the first picture you think of when you see a submarine? I don't know. Tell me. Ted Abernathy. Oh, Ted Abernathy. I remember that. Yeah, I think of the Ephists before I think of a submarine. I think of Hamilton. Happy anniversary, Terrell Owens. On this day, 25 years ago, T.O. set the NFL's single game record for receptions when he caught 20 passes from Jeff Garcia for 283 yards in a touchdown in a 17-nothing 49ers win over Will Vons Bears. Owens' record was broken in 2009 by future bear Brandon Marshall, who caught 21 passes from former bear Kyle Orton in a Denver loss to the Colts. T.O.'s 20 receptions surpassed a 50-year-old mark by Tom Fears of the Rams. Owens could be a pain, but he was first team wall pro five times and three times led the league in receiving touchdowns. He had 1,078 catches, 15,934 yards and 153 touchdowns over 15 seasons. And he was voted into the Hall of Fame in 2018. I came to like T.O. a lot. I like him a lot now. I just hated when he had to antagonize my man, Donovan McNabb. Why? What was the point? They were on the same team. By the way, Jerry Rice, that was his last home game in that record breaker. That was Jerry Rice. Jerry Rice, number one. That's right. Happy trails, Terrence Crawford, the man generally considered to be the best pound for pound boxer live, says he's retired from the sport. The 38-year-old, just beat Canelo Alvarez back in September to become the undisputed super middleweight champ. He's also held that distinction as a welterweight and junior welterweight. Overall, Crawford has won 18 belts across five weight classes on his way to a career record of 42 and 0 with 31 knockouts. He said on his YouTube channel, I've won a different kind of battle, the one where you walk away in your own terms. It's a nice thought when boxer's rarely retire once. He'll be back. That's what I'm thinking. But here's the thing. He never got the do he deserved because boxing is going down. He's so much better to me than Floyd Mayweather, who just can pump himself up. I'll take it. One update. Caleb Williams, 6'1", 226. Steve Young tells us 6'2", 2'10". In your face, Wilbont. Running out of time. Big finish quick. Carlos Alvarez. Split with coach Juan Carlos Fuero after seven years and six majors, is your surprise? How much more winning could they do? I don't get it. The ACC says it will revamp his tiebreaker criteria next season. Your thoughts? Tim Phillips is a year late on this. NBA Commissioner Adam Silver says the league will decide whether to expand in 2026 predictions. It's an undial. Seattle and Vegas. That's it. LSU Interim Coach Frank Wilson is leaving the joint Ole Miss. See? OK. LSU just got rid of him and hired Lane Kiffin. Last one, the 68 ventures bowl tonight. Louisiana Delaware. Who you got? I was going to see. I got Lee Paus and the Washington District. I got the Delaware. Except they're none on. I got the blue hands. We're out of time. We'll try to do better the next time. I'm Tony Cornhunter. You know you cheated community people out there in Delaware. I'm Mike Wilbont. Same time tomorrow, knuckleheads. Kick off the footy season with my offers on the NRL. Download the tab app to get personalized offers on every NRL game. Now that's something to shout about. Tab. We're on. 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