Club Shay Shay - Brad Williams Part 1

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It's Snow White and the seven dwarves. It's literally the part I was made to play. And they CGI'd the dwarf. Could you imagine if they're doing 12 years a slave and all the slaves are CGI black people. How mad you would be. Just know that when Peter Dinklage says you shouldn't do this to little people because it's offensive that he is in the back to the movie. That is all I will say about that. Hello, welcome to another episode of Club Shea Shea. I am your host, Shannon Sharpe. I'm also the proprietor of Club Shea Shea. Stopping by for conversation in the drink today is one of comedy's most sharpest and original voices. He has one of the most watched stand-up specials on YouTube. He sells out theaters worldwide by fiercely sharing his personal stories. He's a world-famous stand-up comedian and accomplished actor, popular podcast host, a trained verbal assassin, a powerhouse father and a husband. New York Times said, no one is doing stand-up comedy more hilarious than this man. Please welcome to the show Brad Williams. I made it. I made it to the club. You on the club? I didn't get carded or nothing. That's because the beard though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I have to keep a beard. If I'm clean-shaven, everyone thinks I'm five. You know what? I got a funny story. When I was growing up in my hometown of Glenville, Georgia, there was a little person. I don't know his real name. Proper terminology. Look at that. That ain't what they called him back then. No, no, no. I know it wasn't. It's okay. And he had a beard. And I was looking at him and he was like my size and I said, Papa, why that boy? Why he got a beard? And I never seen him in class. I said, why he got a beard? And he said, that's a grown man. I said, how he a grown man? And I was scared of him. Every time I would see him, I would turn and go the other way once I found he was a grown man. What you're talking about right now is I dropped my daughter off for the first day of school. The kids are very confused. Because I dropped her off and then I walk away. They're like, well, why is he walking away? He's got to stay here. And then I get into a car. They're like, he has a car? How does this little f*** get a car? This is amazing. We are sitting across from each other and it is amazing that we are the same species. This is very... This is like a Doberman being next to a Chihuahua. This is like... You're sitting up. They offered me cushions to sit on the back of this. I'm like, I can't. You didn't want your feet dangling. No, I can't be back. Shannon, let me tell you. It's been a rough road these 20 years. I can't do that, man. I appreciate your coming. I appreciate the time. I told you who I was and what I had. Oh, I know who you are. That's exactly what you say. Because first of all, I wrote my manager. I'm like, alright. Someone hacks Shannon's profile. Or someone's posing as Shannon. I'm like, Shannon is not sliding into my DMs. And that's probably your notes. But I'm a lifelong Broncos fan. And there's a video on Broncos social media of us actually dappin' up. You probably thought I was a Make-A-Wish kid. But I was on the side of the field. And it was like the 20 year of the 98 team. Okay, okay. And you saw me and you're like, alright, that guy's got about a week left to live. And you dapped me up. And that was great. Now, I'm gonna tell you right now, I'm not a cognac guy. I've never tried it. This is gonna be my first cognac. I'm honored. Thank you. This is actually for your specialist coming out on YouTube. Yeah. Let me know what you think. It's a cognac, BSOP, very special old pill. It is the best. Now, this is grapes, right? Mm-hmm. Oh, that's smooth. Very. No shit. Okay. Yeah. Because there are some athletes. Mm-hmm. I'm not gonna say their names. I'm not gonna talk about Charles Woodson like that. Who put their names on alcohol. Yeah. And then it's not that good. He has a bourbon and a wine. I'm not a wine guy. I had the wine, but I had the bourbon. The bourbon is good. Yes. But yeah, this is smooth. See? Oh, you're gonna try to get me to talk shit, Shannon Sharpe. You're gonna get me all yacked up. And then, see, Kat Williams is just happy I'm on this show. He's like, I ain't got him not the shortest guy on Club Slation 81. Until you get Kev, he's about four inches smaller than me. Kev's smaller than you? So you got a special coming out on YouTube, April 12th, called Live on Short Street. Yes. What can, without giving away too much, what can the people expect? Oh, man. First of all, we called it Live on Short Street because we shot it in Lexington, Kentucky, and the theater was literally on Short Street. Okay. So I didn't know that when I booked the theater. Okay. Like, you'd think that I'd be like, no, but it just happened to be that way. So I'm like, oh, come on, man. It's like, it's meant to be. And people can expect a lot of high energy. I've got ADD. I tell jokes for people that have ADD. If you don't like a joke, wait 12 seconds. There's another one coming. Totally fine. So yeah. There was a, I don't know if did you get this, but there was a video, there was a picture out of Diddy and Meek Mill with a little person. I did. So when this picture came out, okay. It's Diddy. It's a little person. It's Meek Mill for the clip. They will put in the photo right there. Yeah. I got so many DMs be like, yo, what was this Diddy party like? And I'm like, that's not me. It doesn't look like, see, that's the thing with little people. We all have to be, we all have to be minding our P's and Q's. If one of us, like if Dinklage is on the Epstein list, we're all, yeah, we man does some shit wrong. We're all so we all got to be good. So I don't know who that dwarf was in, in between Diddy and Meek Mill, but RIP. But you ended up putting the statement out and like, bro, that ain't me. That ain't me. I got so many DMs. I got like, and I'm like, you could put the photo right next to each other. It's fine. You're not, you're not going to see the, you're going to see what I'm saying. There's no resemblance. Yeah. It's like, like that'd be like if someone put up a photo of Tony Gonzalez and you're like, oh, Shannon. It's like, no, it's fine. You know how they do us. They say all black people look alike. So I guess all little people. Yeah. We all look alike. And it sucks because most of the time I get mad and like we don't look alike. But then sometimes I hang out with we, man. I'm like, I look like you. Yeah. And you and Dinkalage got the beard. Yeah. You might have to shave it. No, I'm not shaving it. I look seven. I get carted. I have to look somewhat manly sitting next to you and your 60 year old biceps that are bigger than me. What the hell? You look like you have two of me in your shirt right now. That is ridiculous. You know, I don't work out like I used to. You still work out? You still working? I'm trying. I'm trying. I'm trying. I do. I do Pilates. I wear yoga pants. Hold on a time. In the Pilates. You do Pilates. Yes. They don't have a machine. You can't fit on the reformer. Yes, I am. I'm on the reformer. It looks like I'm in a medieval torture chamber. I'm getting like, like tarred and feathered just like being pulled in all these different directions. But I do Pilates. I wear the tight pants because Shannon, listen, I'm not that strong. Yeah. I wear the last aspect aspect aspect aspect aspect aspect aspect aspect aspect aspect aspect aspect aspect aspect aspect aspect aspect aspect aspect aspect aspect aspect Don't get set there right there. That is an ass. Dwarves have great asses. Yeah, you know what? I can't disagree with you to do. Oh, do you go on OnlyFans? No, no, no, no, no. I still wait from that. But I don't. Are you looking at the dwarf asses? But let me ask you a question. When you were growing up, I mean, you have an average size wife. Were you attracted to little people? Hell yeah. Oh, I've laid waste to some little women out there. Oh my God. I had days. Oh, OK. Shannon, let me tell you about dwarf conventions. OK. Dwarf conventions are a real thing. They're there's there is the large one. There used to be one at Reno, the little. Yeah. So they're used to like the big ones every summer. And that that's when all the little people gather in one hotel. I always feel weird about people that show up to that hotel that are just there right on a trip. And they just walk in going, what? Who left all the keys? Yeah, that gummy was way too strong. What happened here? They think they're in Oz. But when they like to dress up the conventions like, oh, it's about meeting people. It's about togetherness. It's about discovery. It's about boning, Shannon. It's about boning. Bunch of dwarves, one hotel. Because for a week, like all the rest of the year, you're the friend zone. You're the little guy, the little girl, everyone's friend. All the bridesmaid, never the bride. Then you go to the dwarf convention and you're hot, Shannon. Then you're like, then you're like you in 97 after you won the game. And you're just walking out there. And you're just like, ah, it's great. Oh, I've more dwarf women than high curbs. Oh, that's right. I don't know. We might have to edit this out because no one gets you the boards. No, no, no. My wife knows. It's OK. She knew I was a crazy freak back in the day. And then I met her. And you look at my wife. And that's how you know I'm funny. Because you look at my wife, you're like, there's no way that little b**** got that woman without something. Women like funny people. They like funny men. Make them laugh. Make them breakfast. That was my rule. You do get confused for, like you mentioned, peanut dinklage, we-man. Does it defend you? Does it get upset? Like, bro, that's all. You know, I'm Brad. I'm not dinklage. I'm not we-man. You know what? It didn't offend me back in the day. But now that I've actually got a cloud. You're somebody now. I'm doing something. And like, if you come up to me and you say, oh, Brad Williams, can I get a photo? If I'm not with my family, yes. You're going to get all the photos, autographs, whatever you want. But then if you come up and say, we-man, right? Can we get a photo? No. You're not getting it. I don't care if you correct yourself. No. Not getting it. But now I'm friends with we-man because we all know each other. And now he's actually starting to get some people walked up to him saying, are you Brad Williams? That was the greatest news I'd ever heard in my entire life. I'm not past him yet, but I'm working on it. Shoot your shot on PrizePix and get $50 instantly in lineups when you play your first $5 lineup. That's right. PrizePix is now giving you $50 in lineups when you sign up and play your first $5. PrizePix make every dunk, every dive, every board more exciting. 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No, no, no. I'm good. Kneel down, stand up. What gets me mad is when they go, I'll get down to your level. And they kneel down, but I got bad knees. And then they kneel down and you hear the pops. And you're like, oh, God, now you're going to be down there forever. Yeah, that, like, stand up, kneel down. Totally fine. Just don't put your arm on my head. OK. My head's not your goddamn armrest. Just remember, I'm at the perfect height to punch you in the dick. So do not do that. Secondly, never under any circumstances pick me up. People ask all the time. I like Mike Tyson's Hasbulla. Yeah, Hasbulla. That clip is so funny. Mike thought he was seven. Yeah. And then he's like, he's like giving them raspberries. Mike Tyson's going, and he has a grown ass man. And Hasbulla's not saying shit, because that's Mike Tyson. Dude, one time, I'm at the Hollywood Improv. OK. And I do my set. And then I go to the green room, which is up some stairs. And I open the green room door. And it's just Mike Tyson. In your green room. In the green room. And that's it? Yeah. Easy. It's him and like a manager guy. And he just looks right at me like, oh my god, that was so funny. Do you smoke weed? You want to smoke a joint? And I'm like, yes, I do, Mike Tyson. Yes, I do. He made you offer. You could refute it. Yes. I'm sitting there like, if that guy bites, he could pac-man me. And it's done. So I sat there and I smoked a joint with Mike Tyson. And it was awesome. He's great. When kids see you, do they actually think you're another kid? They don't realize that you're an adult. They're just confused. They see it. They're like, I don't know what this is. I haven't been around this. And sometimes they think I'm a kid. A lot of times it's just they'll ask their mom, why is that guy so small? And I've got my bit. But see, here's the thing. This is why. So I've noticed that different races, the kids respond differently to me. So white kids, they want to say something, but they can't. And then if they start talking, their mom grabs them. And no Skyler. And then walks them away. Black kids are the most honest. They go say, what up? If it comes up, it's coming out, Brad. If a black kid sees me, he just will just walk right up. What the hell is wrong with you? What's wrong with y'all? And I just say, OK. And you got to talk to them. But I have found out that kids just want an answer. All I do is I give them the honest answer. I say, yeah, I'm an adult, but I'm just smaller. Some people have blonde hair. Some people have brown hair. Some people are black. Some people are white. Some people are really tall. Some people are really small. And I kind of say, isn't that cool? And 99% of the time the kid will be like, yeah, that's really cool. 1% of the time they're like, yeah, but you're still shortest. And then I got to put my foot through the kid. And that's rare, but it happens. I read that you don't like when grown men take your urinal. Yes, my urinal. Every men's bathroom, Shannon, you've been in men's bath. They have the one that's down. I used after what I used. Why? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Why do you use that urinal? Your dick needs a shelf? What are you doing? I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I do, but I do use that one. It is right down the end. Shannon, I'm a lifelong Broncos fan. You're one of my heroes. You're on my Mount Rushmore. But if I walk into a bathroom and I see you, Shannon Sharp, at my urinal, I'm going to archel your leg. I'm going to go full archel on your leg. But Brad, what am I supposed to do? Am I supposed to pass it up and go to the? Yes, you go to the regular one, because that's for you. The other one is for me and a five-year-old named Zachary. That is it. I could understand if I'm at the shopping mall. I'm going to pass the handicap parking. Leave that. I'm not walking past that urinal, Brad. I'm sorry. I'll fight you. I'll lose, but I'll fight you. I'm going to throw it down for my people. When did you realize, or did you maybe know early on in your father explaining to you that you were different, that your size, your height was different than the other kids? This is starting to go into kindergarten, first grade. But see, here's the wonderful part, Shannon. My dad was a brilliant man, very smart man, tall guy. My mom is not a dwarf, dad's not a dwarf. There's no dwarves in my family. But my dad knew that I would be picked on. He knew that. So he was like, all right, I'm going to pick on you first in the house. But he would insult me, but then he would say, OK, now hit me back with something, because this is going to happen on the playground. Some kid's going to come up. He's going to say something to you. You've got to say something back. So my dad and I would write comebacks. We would write comebacks. So it's like, all right, if a kid says this, then I say this. And my dad was a trial attorney. So he had the gift to gab. And I got sent to the principal's office on the very first day of school, because a kid walked up and went, ha, ha, you're little. And I went, ha, ha, your mom doesn't live with your dad anymore. Wow. Wow. And I grew up in Orange County, California. So that's about a 92% chance to get that one right. So I did. Kid cried. And I got sent to the principal's office for having the better joke. But so that's what my dad and I would do, is we would prepare. So by the time I got to school, and kids would make fun of me, it was like, oh, I've been preparing for this. I'm good. And now by the time I'm a comedian 22 years in, some people think that, oh, you're going to be in the audience. You're going to yell oompa-loompa at me and throw me off. Bro. I'm going to make you wish that you left your date at home. OK. Some shit's going to happen at that show. What it occurs, one, say, one in 15 to one in 40,000. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So normally it's average and average. It's not like, OK, if an average size woman or man has with the other partner, it's not average size. So do they under, do they know why it happens like that? Everyone makes the joke that my mom cheated on my dad with a circus performer. But no, we don't know. It's a recessive gene. It's a genetic mutation. So technically, I'm an X-man. What's up? What's up? So what's your special power? Can you see the magneto? Dude, my special powers that I would buy booze at like age eight. Because no, because no, everyone's like, he's tiny. I don't know. Yeah, but I don't know why it happens. Now my daughter, she is a little person. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So she's a dwarf like me. Same type of dwarfism. Is it a condesplasia? A con, a conesplasia. That's what happened. Well done, sir. Hey, you let me out. I don't know. I don't know my homework. You did your homework. I don't see. But then I used to make the joke that my type of dwarfism sounds like what a black family would name their daughter. You know, like a conesplasia. Get in here. It sounds like that. All right, we just lost a couple of viewers. That's OK. So your dad prepared you. He never treated you differently. No. You have siblings. Yeah, I got a sister who is average size. Average size. And like, yeah, I grew up. I played sports. I played hockey. That was my main one. And it was so. So you was a mighty duck fan, huh? Damn right. I'm still a duck fan. Let's go. I'm wearing the orange. Yeah. A Bronco fan and a duck fan. But yeah, it was always interesting being in sports because like I would play baseball, soccer, basketball, hockey, and then in high school, I wrestled. And there is nothing. Yeah. Shannon, there is nothing like wrestling an average size kid whose father is watching him. Yeah. And I pin him. You pin him? Oh, yeah. Dude, and that dad would be like, I can't. Yeah, I can't go home. Yeah. Get your story. I can't. This is my wife's kid. This is not my. Like there were times when I would do it. And it was so great because low center of gravity. Yes. And I was wrestling in a weight division of 103s. So if there was another kid wrestling me, I was I'm tall and compact and muscle. He's a streaming. Yeah. For a high school kid to be 103 pounds. Yeah. So I'm so I'm shooting half Nelson's. I'm I'm flipping dudes over. I'm laying on their shoulders. Oh, it was awesome. It was a good time. After watching a close friend grow through a loss a few years back, I saw how quickly grief can turn to financial stress. No one deserves that feeling. I saw him feel and I mean no one. No matter what I offered to help, it wasn't enough. I promise my family I would never make them feel the same way my buddy felt. Trust me, that experience of watching a close friend grow through financial stress while grieving changed how I think about protecting my family. Life insurance isn't about expecting the worst, but it's about making sure the people that you love are supported no matter what. 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Bro, so the last year, I got to go to the NFL draft. The Broncos sent me out and they had a session with Roger Goodell with some of the fans from all the different teams. I got to ask that question to Roger Goodell. I said, would you allow a team to hire a dwarf to be thrown over the line? Cause they're gonna ban the tush push. So now let's have a dwarf thrown over the line. And Roger is stone cold in every situation. I left him speechless. He's like, I have no idea what to say to that. He goes, you're hired. But didn't they used to have a little person toss? I mean, in Florida they still do. Florida, they do a lot. That's the thing. I was, yeah, some people, that's a thing. I don't wanna do it. I don't ever wanna do it. But I also, and so I have two opening acts that are black and we talk all the time about stuff where we go, we don't wanna deny anyone their money, but there's some stuff people do where we're like, ah, mother, that kinda hurts. And they talk to me about stuff that happens in the community and that they're like, yeah, make your money, but it's not exactly making us proud. There's stuff, dwarf tossing's like that for me, where it's like, make your money, that's fine. But as long as no one sees me out and about and just goes, all right, it's time to compete, like I'm okay, but I'm not a huge fan of that. You mentioned how your dad would prepare you. Yeah, man. Your dad never treated you differently than your siblings did he? Nope. Never, never. It was never like that. It was always equal, equal punishments. You got in trouble? What would you do to get in trouble? My mouth, the same reason you got in trouble, Shannon. The mouth, I'd pop off, cause I always thought no one wants to actually hit me. So, cause you don't wanna hit a dwarf, we don't explode into candy. So like, I would always pop off and get, and teachers would be like, can you get him to shut up for just a little bit? And, but then I started doing like high school theater and stuff and that's where I got it out. And then once I discovered stand up, it was over. It was, so cause when you got in trouble, the teachers would call your dad and you'd like, you know you're in trouble then. Yeah, but then my dad would always say, this would be my dad, every time they called him, he would say, did he start it or did he finish it? Wow. And if I started it, I was in trouble. If I finished it, we're going out to Sizzler that night. It's gonna be great. He taught golf. Yeah. Was your thing. Yeah, I love playing golf, love playing golf. And my dad taught me two jokes that I still use this day, every time I play golf. Cause when I go to the course, or if I'm talking golf with someone, or everyone's always like, so you play golf. From the tips they ask you for. Yeah, they're like, are you going from the tips or are you going and I'm like, dude, I'll tee it up from the whites. It's okay. And then if someone ever says, oh, you golf, what's your handicap? I'm like dwarfism, you son of a. You looking at it. Yeah. And then the other joke is I don't drive very far, but hell of a short game. So yeah, every time, every time. We need to open one of these. Cause that's. Do you really play from the tips though? Damn right. No, no way, Brad. Dude, not the pro, not the pro. Okay, no, no, no. I'm not going out to Cherry Hills with you and John. I'm not playing from the tips. You guys do your thing. Do you golf with Rod? I don't. Rod, my brother's a golfer. Okay, Sterling golf. Yeah, yeah, he golf. I don't, I just really never got into it. Okay, cause you're asking me questions, but I'm holding back on my questions for you. I have questions for you. We'll get to them. I still remember when you gave away the party location on SportsCenter live after the first Super Bowl win. You were talking to your brother and you, and he said, where's the party at? And you gave away the actual location. I gave away the location of the, the championship. Probably should have done that. Did people show up? Of course they did. I don't know if they got in, but they did show up. What type of discipline when you got in trouble, what would your dad do? I obviously, I don't think he did a corporal punishment on you. He didn't hit me. No, my dad was all, my mom and dad were all psychological. It was psychological warfare with me. You know, they would, there was another little person that lived near us and about the same age as me and James. And they would talk about him like, well, he's doing well. Like he's doing okay. Yeah, why didn't you be like this? And I'm like, mother. So like that, that would get me. Did you go down the stairs? Look here, Mo Fo, I need your clothes on. I'm tired of my parents talking about how well behaved you are and how well you do. Yeah, yeah. Act up, do something. But the thing is, is my dad would tell me, very smart man. He says, just remember this, Sonny goes, remember, everyone's gonna always remember you. So some kid could pick up and then kind of fade away and then people forget, if you pick up, everyone's gonna know that about you for a while. That's gonna be what people know about you. So do not stop. And that really resonated with me, where I was like, oh, okay, someone's gonna remember me. When you were 16, your dad got you a car. Were you the first? So you had a Tesla way before he made your car, even with you. You had a make your car way before it was fashionable. Yes, because when I was 16, this is a true story. My dad woke me up my 16th birthday and said, I got you a car and I was so happy. And I ran downstairs and there was a power wheels. You thought he was a real car? Yeah, but you know what? Hey, that was a golf cart for me. I drove that shit. It was fine. I sang the thing song and everything, but yeah, no, but then he got me a car later. I drove a truck. That was my first car. I loved it. I loved doing things that people don't expect me to do. I jump out of a truck. People see a truck roll up there, like who's getting out of that? I swing off the damn steering wheel. I know you didn't got no duly. No king cab or nothing like that. I didn't get a duly, but man, I had a nice truck. It was good. You're as far as the taught you how to drive? Or you just observed because obviously you're gonna have to have a special mechanism to drive. So I just kind of observed, but here's one thing. I've gotten to a car accident before because my brake fell off. I have pedal extenders. They're little pedals that attach to the pedal. So I'm driving. I got slam on the brake. The brake thunk. It clunks. I'm like, ah, so I grabbed the wheel, fling myself down, slam on the brake, but it's too late. Boom, rear in the guy. He gets out and I get out and he looks at me. He's like, was that before? He thought he accordion to me. He thought I hit him and just like, I was gonna go out like Elmer Fudd. Like that's what he thought happened. Cause I was wondering what the expression on his face was when he actually saw you hop out of the car. You get in a car accident with a dwarf. You're like, I'm not getting into heaven. You ever got a speeding ticket? Yes. So do they ask you to get out the car? So here's what I did, Shannon. I grew up in Los Angeles near one time I was at Universal Studios. And if you go to Universal Studios LA, you go to the gift shop. They have all these fake Academy Awards. They say like, best mom, best dad, best teacher is supposed to get it from. I found one Shannon that said best police officer. And I was like, yes. So I got it, put it in my glove box. And every time I got pulled over for speeding, I got that trophy out and I held it. And the guy walked up, I was like, congratulations, you won. Never got a ticket. Wow. Never got a ticket. The cop would laugh so hard. If you can make a cop laugh, now, I will be sensitive to my friends in the black community. That's a different, it's different for me. Yes. It's different for me. And I'm fully aware of that. But for me, whenever I would make someone laugh, oh, that was it. I would always get out of a ticket. Do you think your parents, it seems to me that you believe your parents did a great job because they understood the world was gonna be cruel. The world is not gonna be as forgiving and as kind to you as we are because we're your parents. Exactly. So I'm gonna prepare you for what you're gonna actually face in the real world. Cause guess what? You're not gonna be with mom and dad always. So we're not gonna be able to protect you. You're gonna have to be able to protect yourself. That was a percent, man. And that I will always, we're always in debt to our parents. I will look at my parents and be like, if you could go back and say, hey, you get to roll a dice again, have maybe some different parents, I would say nah, stay. Like I'm not going cause I've seen other parents that have dwarf children cause they write me. A lot of parents will write me if they're average size, they have a dwarf child, they write me and they say, what should I do? And I see a lot of them wanna hide them away and be like protect and like, no, no, no. But it's like, like you said, at one point they're gonna be gone, kids gotta survive the real world. My dad would always tell me there's the world that is and the world that should be. I will prepare you for the world that is. Cause the world that should be is everyone gets along, everyone's happy, there's no racism, there's no sexism, there's no disability. That's the world that should be. The world that is is all those things exist. So let me prepare you for that. And I'm really excited to raise my daughter in a similar way. Thankfully I had great models, so I will just do what they did. Have we become too politically correct that we're so sensitive that it's hard. I mean, cause if you think about, and you grew up like you love comedians and you knew how the comedians in the 70s and 80s were early 90s and you kind of see a shift. Now it's kind of going back. It's going back. It's going back. But for a long time there were certain things you couldn't say, there were certain jokes you couldn't tell. Yeah, I always say this. Cause people talk about cancel culture with comedians. And I say, well, let me give you some comedians that have been canceled. Dave Chappelle, Joe Rogan, Shane Gillis, Louis CK. Yeah. I'll go on. They're selling out arenas. If that's the case, please cancel me. I would love to get those paychecks. I've seen those paychecks. They're nice. So what you have right now is it used to be you told a joke and if people didn't like it, the people in the room said, I didn't like that joke. They didn't laugh at it. Now, because of social media, they not only not laugh at that joke, they tell their friends, this is the offensive thing the guy said. Or they're uploaded. They're uploaded. Oh. Do you allow cameras, you allow phones and so? I'm not going to do the yonder bags where you put your phone away. Dave does that and that's great. He can afford it. I can't afford that. So one thing that I always say about comedians when it comes to material, I will always defend with insane ferocity. I will defend the attempt. I will always defend the attempt at a joke. If you are trying to make a joke, okay. You can, you can up. But a lot of people who aren't in comedy, they assume that when a joke comes out, when they hear a joke, it's perfect. It's already been, no, we need to work this out. We need to give it out to the audience because trust me, I've told jokes, many jokes that have bombed in front of an audience and I go, okay, time to retool, time to adjust. I've told jokes that went too far where the audience let me know, hey, cross the line. And I went, okay. And then I pulled it back a little bit. But then, because my goal is to make sure the audience has a good time and to make sure they laugh. So I will always defend the attempt. My dad, like I said, defense attorney, he always told me freedom of speech does not exist for the speech you agree with. First amendment is there for the speech you disagree with. That's the speech you gotta really defend. So sometimes a comedian will say something and everyone will flip out. Can you believe this comedian said this thing that did this thing and I'm just like, yeah, he was trying to make a joke. Y'all booed and that's fine. And hopefully they go back and fix it. Because the market will fix the jokes. I don't wanna go on stage and eat it for an hour. I want it to be good. I will change it. And that has happened in my career. So I will always defend the attempt. How long did it take you to perfect the joke? Because you remember when you first started, you could tell a joke over and over and over and over again. But if you tell a joke in Jacksonville, you probably not gonna be able to, you might can get away with it in Tampa. But if you try to take it to Miami and try to take it to Atlanta, try to somebody they already uploaded it. I don't like that because I want people to be surprised. Thankfully they're good. And a lot of people don't record my stuff and put it on. Like I remember when Will Smith slapped Chris Rock, the next week he was doing shows and people were bringing in phones and he had those yonder bags and people still got jokes. People still got phones in because everyone wanted to know what he was gonna say. I'm at a perfect level of fame right now, Shannon, where that's not really happening for me and I'm totally fine with it. But yeah, don't ruin it. Don't, like, I do a free meet and greet after my show. Free? Free, free. I do not charge. You know they'll pay for that. I know, but there's 1200 people there that are paying my mortgage. So I will go out to the lobby. I will do a free meet and greet. We'll take the photo then. Get the photo then. Leave the material for the stage. Live in the moment. Wow. You said people with disabilities have the best sense of humor. Damn right. Yeah, well it's because very similarly to why the Jewish community is very good at telling jokes. The black community has some great comedians. Really good jokes come from struggle and really good sense of humor come from struggle. If you're disabled, you're not offended if someone says something about what it, you know what life is. You know how serious life could be. People that have actually gone through shit, they typically are not as offended as people who have had wonderful pristine lives. Like whenever someone gets mad at me for a joke about a disability, it's never the person that has the disability. It's the person who's like, my sister is a, okay, well when your sister gets mad at me, then I'll, I'll, Tell her come take it up with me, don't you? Yeah, cause, and don't get me wrong. I am not the comedian that says you are not allowed to be offended at a joke. Yes. Being offended is an involuntary response. If I tell a joke and you feel a certain way, okay. And if I get something wrong, by all means tell me. I do not want to be a bully comedian. So if I say something about your community and I'm way off, please let me know so I could correct that. But on average, if I hear something this is like, I didn't like that joke. I was just like, all right, well, the audience- Do you ever ask why? Yeah. And if the, and if the response is, well, because my sister's a blankly blank, I'm like, all right, then no, I don't care. It's very strange that you have to pick and choose. Right. But I really do, because I'm not trying to be a bully. I don't, I don't want to be, I don't want to be a comedian where people come and then leave angry. My job is entertain you. You paid for tickets, parking, babysitters. I want to make sure you have a good time. Right. But there will be a segment of the population that will not like a certain joke. And that's just what you have to deal with as a comedian. You're not, you're not going to be for everybody. Brad, when did we, it almost seems now that people go to things to be offended. Yes. When did we become such an easily offended culture? I think, and I don't know the answer, but I think it's when with social media, being offended became a look at me. Now I'm going to the show, now I'm posting on social media. I was offended. Now look at me, look at me being offended, look at me. And I'm just like, listen, if, like, I always laugh when someone reposts a offensive joke and says, this was not funny, but in the clip you hear a theater full of people laughing. I'm like, nope, that's funny. Right. Now, if the room full of people boo or get mad, you have an argument. But if you're posting a clip of this, of this comedian saying this outrageous thing, and then like a room full of people is laughing, that's the proof right there. And you can't make that argument. Like people will say something and this man is a friend of mine, so I'm not throwing him out. People say like, literally the cable guy is not funny. It's like, he made a, he sold out a football stadium and made them laugh. Right. He's funny. Right. To some people, you can say that you don't find him funny. Correct. Totally fine. I mean, some people might not like Chappelle, some people might not like Shane Gillis, some people might not like, it's okay. It's okay. There's no such thing as somebody liking everything. It's kind of like, Brad, you know what, man, you know what Shannon, I really like Apple. Brad Williams hate oranges and bananas. What? No! I just like that. Yes! Exactly. And with, like I think about this with comedians, movies, music, listen man, my daughter is six. She is obsessed with K-pop demon hunters. Loves this thing. Sings all the songs, sings golden all day. And I'm sitting there going, I don't like K-pop demon hunters, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't exist. Correct. It should exist for the people that like it. Yes. You know, people hate on whatever artists, whatever, they should exist for the people that love them. It's okay. And if they come out with a K-pop demon hunter's sequel, it's all right, everyone got a paycheck and a bunch of people are gonna like it. Something shouldn't exist just because I don't like it. Like should Taylor Swift stop making music because Brad Williams doesn't like a couple of songs? Nah, make your music. You make people really happy. Right. You mentioned you speak so highly of your dad and I don't know if you're the man that you become if you don't have this father in your life. But he ended up getting cancer. Yep. He's getting cancer. Beated. Yep. And so when he got, you found out your dad had cancer. Did he tell you, your mom tell you because they probably tried to keep it away from you. They did, because I was touring and they knew I was doing good stuff and I was on the way up. So they tried to downplay it, but like every now and then I come home, my dad had these huge bandages on his arm and be like, what's that? He goes, ah, it's got a little cancer burned off. And I'm like, what are you doing? Just got a little cancer burned off. Right. But I'll tell you this story. And I was at, I was in Denver. I was at the Comedy Works South Club and that's at the tech center. And I was backstage and I knew all that day. I knew my dad was going in to get results. I knew that. So all that day I'm just like, right, right, okay, okay. And then literally I'm five minutes from going on. My phone rings. It's my mom. I know, I know what this call is. I pick up the phone and I say hello. And the first thing she says is he's in remission and I collapse on the green room floor at the Comedy Works South Club, just tears. Yes. Just stupid wailing crying. And then I hear, please walk on the stage, Brad. I was like, ah, fuck. You're all together. Okay, okay, go out. And I couldn't help it that night. I told the tech center. I told Comedy Works what happened that night. And it was one of the more magical shows. I will always remember that show. But yeah, it was a great moment. And I was inspired by how my dad fought it. And my dad passed away three years ago of ALS. So he had cancer. He had a fake hip. He had a fake knee. He had ALS. This. Wow. So he beat cancer only to contract ALS. Jesus. Jesus. But I think about this all the time. And there was, I don't know if you ever watched Inside the Actors Studio. But there's a question that the host would always ask every person and that is if heaven exists, what do you want God to say when you get there? And Mike Myers was on that show and he said, I want God to say he saw it. Because Mike Myers, dad passed away very young and did not see all the Saturday Night Live, he had some power and all that. So my dad got to see, before he passed away, he got to see me film specials. He got to see me get married, have a kid. My wife, my sister got married, have a kid. Like he got to see his children succeed. So he saw it. He had, like death is horrible. Here's how awful death is. My dad had the greatest death ever. He's on his bed in his home. He's surrounded by his family. The last words he says are to my daughter and says I love her. Wow. That's the last words he said. That is a dream death. If you could pencil it in. He started crying. Yeah. And then he goes and that's how much death sucks. But one thing I realized is that we are lucky if we get to experience pain and grief from someone passing away. Cause my father passed away. I was wrecked, but I'm lucky because I had a dad that caused that kind of grief. Like if my dad passed away and I feel nothing. Yes, bro. Oof. Oof. I'm never gonna see this man again. I'm never gonna speak to this man again. Yet I feel nothing. Yes. Then that means you didn't have a great dad. I was lucky enough to have a fantastic father where when that day happened, I was wrecked. And I feel lucky to have experienced that pain. When you find that your dad had ALS after beating cancer, did he like, damn son, I'm having a rough go at this. Did he ever like question or he just like, hey, just part of life. We would all, we would find ways to laugh. We would all get together. We'd find ways to laugh. He'd still, he'd still find, you know, he'd still be tuned in. He'd still want to know what's going on. He'd still be interested in my life, my daughter's life, my sister's life, her kids. Like he was still in it, but laughter was very key. And I would always come back and I would tell him all the new jokes that I would write. And then he would laugh. And it was truly something to wear. I know that when I make an audience laugh, that is them experiencing a wonderful release. And we all need it. And I, especially now when you pick up that phone and you doom scroll and you look and things just piss you off, piss you off, piss you off. I am happy to be someone to where when you come to see me perform, you are happy. Like I love the Denver Broncos. I love the Denver Broncos. I've been to games where they lost. That sucks. I was at the Super Bowl where the snap went over Peyton Manning's head. Yeah, I was there too. I was at that game. I'm like, yeah. And I'm just like, ha, I just spent thousands of dollars to see something I love get tortured. Yes. And from that, from that, the first plan, I knew I said, you know what, this is not going to end well. Yeah. You know, it's not going to end well. So I love the fact that people, no matter what you're going through, you, you come to my show, laugh, have a good time, feel good afterward because it seems like everything nowadays is designed to piss you off. And my comedy is not designed to do that. Your mom's from Savannah, Georgia. Savannah, Georgia. Oh yeah. I grew up near Savannah with the school in Savannah. Love it. Did you guys go back there when you were a kid? Did you do it? We've been there. We've seen the Moss. I love it. You like the Spanish Moss, huh? I love me some Foresight, downtown, River Street. Love me some Johnny Harris barbecue sauce. OK. OK. I still get Johnny Harris barbecue sauce delivered to my house. Really? From Savannah, it's my favorite barbecue sauce. It's amazing. Shout out to all the people. Go get yourself some Johnny Harris barbecue sauce. I know about Johnny Harris and all about Cary Hill. It's fantastic, man. Dude, but so my mom would tell me stories, though, because she grew up in Savannah and then she moved out to Los Angeles. And her first day of school, I'll never forget this. Never forget this. She told me this story. First day of school, she gets to school, I think it's like fourth grade. And they're studying the Civil War. And she's the new kid in class. And they go, Susan, you're new. Who won the Civil War? And she stands up, stands up in the classroom, goes, the South. And I was like, oh. Because it was taught differently. The War of Northern Aggression. So yeah, it was taught differently. But I love my mom. And she does not believe that anymore, let's just say. Which is good. I want to know this. Before you became a comic, what were some of the jobs that you have? Because that is a job that you have. And I'm like, how? How? I've only had three jobs in my life, Shannon. This is great. One, comedian. Been in 22 years. That's the last job I'm going to have. The very first job I had, you ever been to a mall, Shannon, and seen a store called Hot Topic? I have a. OK, Hot Topic. Someone laughed over there. You know it. That's like the alternative store for the goth kids. OK, OK. And you go there. I was a cashier at Hot Topic, which all the cashiers had, you know, gauges, tattoos, piercings, hair. Black fingernails, yeah, yeah, the whole thing. Yes, yes. And I came in and I interviewed for the job. I dress pretty much how I dress now. And they're like, ah, dwarf, that's weird enough. OK, yeah, yeah, you go work here. So I worked at Hot Topic. And then the other job I got. And I grew up in Orange County, California. Yes. I did what a lot of teenagers do when they grew up in Orange County, California. You work at Disneyland. You work at Disneyland. I work for the mouse. And then as your viewers are thinking this joke, you, I'm not one of the seven. OK, my actual job is called a character host. It's basically a bodyguard for the characters. You walk around with the characters. You see any character at Disney. There's always someone right next to them. And you set up lines. You take photos. And never then a five year old steps out of line. You're going to throw a forearm shiver. And that's what I did. So you are bodyguard for the character. Yep, yeah. The only time I really had to do something was I was with Pinocchio, which is just a great sentence to say. I was with Pinocchio. And Pinocchio is oftentimes played by a woman. And I knew the woman who was playing Pinocchio. And a guy got a little handsy with Pinocchio, which is, what weird fetish do you have? What the f***ing thing do you? He's wooden. Well, that might be the thing. He's like, ooh, tell a lie. Pinocchio make it grow. But he did. And I was very aggressive. But the craziest thing I ever saw at Disneyland, I was with Mickey Mouse one day. And you know how real I was with Mickey? That was real. I'm with the boss. And you know, Mickey's out there for a while. And then at the end of about a half hour, Mickey's going to go in because they've got to switch the Mickey's. It's hot outside. And me, I'm not allowed to say that. I have to say, hey, Mickey's going to go get a glass of lemonade. And then he's going to be right back. And I started to take Mickey away. And this one mom comes up and goes, no, no, no, just one photo. Just one photo. And I'm like, hey, I'm going to take Mickey away. But he's going to be right back. And you're going to be fine. She goes, just one photo. And I kind of look at her. And I go, hey, wait here 15 seconds. Mickey's going to be right back. And then I start taking Mickey away. She yells out, Mickey. Mickey turns. This woman is holding a baby. Shannon, she throws her baby. Mickey does that, catches the baby. She takes the photo, grabs the baby and goes, thank you. And then just walks away. I'm like, you just threw a baby. You just softball pinched a baby to someone who can't see. We got to the back. Mickey throws off the head. It's once again played by a woman. She's crying. She's like, well, what if I dropped the baby? I'm like, but you didn't drop the baby. You're a hero. You're fine. But sometimes people are in an amusement park and they just have this false sense of security. And that was the craziest thing I ever saw at that park. Did you ever get fired by the Giants as a DJ? So about 10 years ago, I was burnt out from stand up. And I did. I took a gig as a morning radio show host in San Francisco, California. And it was on a show called Kevin Klein Live on Live 105. And while I was there, the Giants won the World Series. I'm from Los Angeles while I'm a Broncos fan. I'm a lifelong Die Hard Dodger fan. Things are good right now. Very good. Very good. Back in the day, not so good. The Giants won the World Series and they wanted me on air to be like, all right, hype up the Giants win the World Series. And I'm like, no. And they said, what are you talking about? It's like, I'm a Dodger fan. I'm not going to be really excited. That's, you know, they're like, no, no, no, you have to be excited. You have to say you'd be really happy that the Giants won the World Series. I'm like, I'm a dwarf. I'm not going to say I'm really happy that Giants won the World Series. I don't like San Francisco Giants. I don't like the New York Giants. I'm not a fan of them. I'm not a friend of them. I'm not supporting. So not too long after that, they let me go. Is it true that Carlos Mencia brought you on stage after he was making, he was making Dorff jokes? Yep. So, because I don't want people like you to keep saying the word. Is it you want to be fine? Dorff is fine. Little person adored is the M word that's to be fair. Okay. I don't like it when black people say the M word because I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. That's too close to your word, which is not even, we're not in the same category. We're not, people say, oh, calling a dwarf, the, yeah, calling a dwarf midget is the exact same as calling a black person the N word. And I'm like, midget please. No, no, not the same. They were never, dwarves were never slaves because we would have been the worst slaves on the planet. Yeah. Fetch me that jar, second shelf boss. You're like, it's not happening. So I'm not, I'm never going to compare the word midget to the N word. But yeah, midget's the bad one that you're not supposed to say dwarf little person. That's it. But yeah, I was in the audience. I was 19 years old. I was there at the Bray Improv with my dad. Mincea's on stage. He starts making midget jokes. The audience way over there is laughing. The audience by me is like, hmm, hmm. Get the Google Pixel 10 Pro XL on the UK's best network. 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I want to make them laugh. Proud of that. Did you have any aspirations of being a comedian? I want not comedian. Comedians a job like to me at the time. Comedians was a job like being an Avenger. It's like, yeah, it's a cool job. I don't know how you do it. I don't know how you get there. And when I started doing stand up, I was actually going to college. I was going to USC. I was getting a communications degree because I wanted to be, I wanted to be Vince Scully. I wanted to be Chick Hearn. I wanted to be Dave Logan. Okay. Yes. I wanted to be a broadcast journalist. I want to be a sports announcer. Right. And my dad said you'd be a great sports announcer because you interviewing athletes would be funny as hell. Because me just stand there with a microphone. Yeah. Hey, you might have to have the extended extended. Yeah, exactly. There you go. But that's that's what I was going to go do. Then once I started doing stand up, I told my parents, I was like, yeah, I found what I'm going to do. And I dropped out of college with a year to go. What? Yeah. You might as well go on back. You might as well go on back. You're so close. Hey, I was a communications major USC. Give me an honorary degree. All right. I communicate to people every night. Right. You know, thousands of people every night. And that's what I tell people. I dropped out of college. I was a communications major. We didn't lose a cancer cure. We're not sitting here like, oh man, AIDS is still going because Brad decided to tell us to go. You got rid of somebody that was going to talk on television or radio. Yeah, exactly. Totally fine. Someone has a sports announcing job because I decided to do this and I'm happy with that. Was that the getting those laughs? Was that the addiction? Because it's an addiction. To hear something, to make somebody laugh. Or you play a sport and you make somebody, you score a touchdown, you score a basket, hit a home run and that crowd goes crazy. Man. When that crowd erupted where you tell it, I'm not a seven. Oh, that's the best feeling ever. That's the feeling that you're chasing every time. I still get it every time. Every time I write a new joke and it gets it, like, I don't know how the athletes adjust. I don't know how you guys adjust to running on a field on Sunday or whatever, whether you're a baseball player or basketball player or whatever, hearing that crowd, draining a shot, making a touchdown and the place just goes ape shit. What compares? Nothing. Yeah. That's why it's so hard to leave. Yeah. That's why I'll never tell a guy to retire. Ever. It's hard to leave because when you go to another, I promise you, when you go into another job of nine to five, ain't nobody standing up applauding your ass when you come to work. They laugh every time. They laugh every now and then. But there's not, you know, not 70,000 people going crazy. That's why it's so hard because where do I get the connection? You're in the locker room. You're on the bus. You had practice. Where do I get that? Where do I get that applause? Because at some point, think about it, you've had this applause from high school, college. Now you play five, 10, 15, 20 years. That's what your life has been. Yes. So for the better part of your entire life, all you've heard was applause. And now all of a sudden it stops. It stops. And you're doing well. You could go out on a stage and people will clap, cheer, enjoy. So when they do one of those reunions where they bring the teams back and you get to run out that tunnel again. I walk very briskly. I don't run anymore. Two repaired hips in a bad deal. I walk it briskly. Do you have two fake hips? I do. Wow. My lateral, yes. How are they? Because I probably got to get a left one soon. Man, it is the best. Really? It is the best. I mean, the quality of life that you enjoy is nothing like it, bro. The only thing, the only pain you'll have pain for say a week or so with the incision where they go in at. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But other than that, the author, the authoritic, it's gone. All right. It's gone. Sign me up. Take this lefty. Give me a new one. Give me RoboF. Have you ever been, you mentioned that you've been booed. What's that? So how do you, how do you like, damn. How can I make this joke or do you just like scrap the joke or do you like, how can I, this is a really good joke. I just need to make it funny. It just needs some fine tuning. Yeah. And so when I started comedy and people wouldn't laugh or they would boo or whatever, it, I took it very personal. Now I've gotten to a point in my career, thankfully I'm very comfortable. I know that I'm funny. I know I'm pretty good at this. So if I hear a joke bomb, it's more like, all right, I got to go tinker in the lab. I got to figure out why this joke didn't work. I had this recently and a joke didn't work and I, I, I heard the joke and I was like, all right, why didn't this work? And I just found out the setup was way too long. There's a great Mark Twain quote, I think about all the time where he said, if I had more time, I would have written you a shorter book. And I think about that with jokes, like get to it. And, and then sometimes I get a laugh where, so on my last special Starfish, over eight million views on YouTube, thank you. Um, I do a joke about the Bud Light transgender controversy. Okay. Yeah. And when I was writing that joke, the first time I told it, the first version of that joke, I did not like the laugh I got. I got a laugh. I'm like, ooh, that's look, that feels like I'm, I'm hurting people. Yes. And I'm punching down. I don't want to do that. So the first version of the joke was completely different than the, than the version that ended up in the special. Okay. And, uh, but that retooling, it's that retooling in the struggle that makes it, when it does work, that makes it all the more satisfying. That makes that rush all the more satisfying. When you go, yeah, I did it. Right. It didn't work. I figured it out. Figured it out. And it does. Any comedian that sits in this chair next to you and says, oh, I'm, I don't bomb. They're lying. They're lying. Any, don't believe anything they say after that. Cause every comedian bombs, man. Every comedian bombs. And what's important is that as you get into this business, you learn from the bomb. If you do something, it doesn't work. You just do it the same way the next time on stage, you didn't learn anything. Right. So yeah, learn something from the bomb, learn something from failure. Did you feel like, you know what, I've got to be really good because there's not anybody that's came before me that looks like me. That's going to tell jokes. So I've got to be, cause you know, sometimes when you're the first kind of the rep. Yeah. Yeah. You got, and you've got to be able to take it on the chair. It's kind of like, you know, and I'm not comparing what you did to Jackie Robinson working for the barrier, but I'm saying you realize that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, and that thankfully there was one little person that I knew of that did it before me great, great comic still doing it. Her name is Tanya Lee Davis. Okay. Please look her up. She's fantastic. And, uh, so I had a little bit before me, but now I've gone past to where she got to and I'm like selling out theaters. So it's very strange now, cause I don't get into this job thinking, all right, I'm going to be a guiding light for the little people. Like I'm not doing that. I'm doing it because I really like telling the jokes, but sometimes I look out in the audience and I see, uh, young little people out in the audience. I'm like, Oh shit. Like I'm, I'm, I'm their guy. Yes. Because it's the same way. Like, uh, some people, they only support their, they're waiting on a certain superhero to look like them. So that that could be their soup. That could be their superhero. Would it be, uh, like, dude, my buddy, uh, my opening act, great comic names, uh, JB ball. He, uh, he's a black guy, six foot three from Tampa. And he always tell me he loved the X man bishop because before that they're like no black X man. Which is weird because the comic, if you look into it, it's based on the relationship of, uh, uh, Martin Luther King and Malcolm X. Right. And there's no black X man, which is weird. But so he loved Bishop. Once Bishop came out, he's like, that's my guy. So I'm kind of like that with little people where it's like, Oh, that's, that's our guy now. Yes. And that's a lot of pressure. But at the same time, um, I'm totally fine with that pressure. And, uh, it's a, it's the most rewarding thing when little people come out to my show and then say like, dude, you're doing, you're doing us right. Right. I love that. That is the, oh, that's one of the best compliments. We're on joke stealing. Cause I've had a lot of comedians on here and some says, I look right about a joke, some people like, nah, don't do that. If you're going to take somebody joke, give them credit for it. I prefer you not to do it. But some people like, Hey, just write a better joke. Is that the only, is that the last joke that you're going to ever tell? Is that the best joke you've ever told? And now somebody's telling it and doing it better than you. Is that what you're upset about? So where are you on that, Brad? Dude, it's, it's the cardinal sin of comedy. Never do it. Right. Never do it. I guess it's like ghost writing. If you're a rapper, don't, you don't get no ghost writers doing on your. Now, now there have been times where I have gone on stage and I have told a joke and someone will come up to me and say, Hey, so and so does that joke. If someone tells me that, holy shit, I will look up the joke. I will be like, no, no, no, no, I will call the comedian. And then sometimes there's certain events that happen, current events that there's only so many perspectives you can run it. Like here's a here's a prime example. I was, there was a, there was a protest in Los Angeles about like 12, 13 years ago. That was, it was a, it was called a day without a Mexican. And it was supposed to be all, all the Mexicans in LA were supposed to stay home and prove that they're a valuable part of the economy. And they did. And it was great. But I saw that and I was out driving that night and I was like, there's no traffic. There's no traffic in LA. This is the greatest thing ever. So that night I'm going on stage and I say, Hey, they, they were without a Mexican. Holy shit. This is great. There's no traffic. And, and, and if you get into an accident, it's okay. Cause you know, the other guy has insurance. So that's a joke I told, right? Literally the next night I go on stage and Joe Coy, great comment tells the same joke. He didn't see me tell the night before. He just experienced the same thing. And I went, all right. And then literally like a week later, he did it on Kimmel. So I go, that's your joke. Right. That's your game. It up. Yeah. I'm not going to fight him for that joke. No. And to your point, I can write more jokes. Now. Yeah. It's, it's the worst thing to do in comedy because it's to get a joke that's completely original. There's a ton of comedians doing comedy to get a joke that's completely original is a really hard to do. So you got the thinkers. I mean, you guys, I mean, to be able to comedian, to be a comedian. I mean, you have to be quick with it and you take your real events and you're making them funny, be it about something that you see or things that you've experienced. So it's, it's, it's the Cardinals in the comedy. Never do it. There was one time I was doing a show in Sacramento and there was a little person that showed up to my show and he goes, Hey, I started doing comedy because of you. I'm a big fan. I'm like, holy crap. That's awesome. I go, do you want to go on tonight? Do you want to go on before me? He's like, can I? And I go, absolutely. So he goes on stage and he does seven minutes of my first album. Like, he's all your material. Yeah. And it's not like, because some comedians get very, there's like, you are doing a similar premise, then there's, you're doing word for word, the joke. He was doing word for word, my act. And he gets on stage and I'm like, big fan, huh? He's like, yeah. He didn't even realize it. But so that I just sit him down and have a conversation. No, the objective is not to steal someone else's material and try to be funny. Yeah. Your idea is to draw inspiration from said individual and create your own. Yes. And what's important is that if you get called out on it or if you get like, you're like, oh, you did, you go my bad. Sorry. Get offensive. Like, don't get, don't do it again. Yeah. Don't do it again. Like, there, there, there was, okay. Here, here's, here's me admitting when I started doing comedy, there's a comedian, um, um, Mexican comic named Johnny Sanchez. Okay. The very first time I did comedy, I did two of his jokes. Thank, because I didn't know the rules. Right. Thankfully, someone came up to me and said, those are Johnny Sanchez jokes. And I'm like, oh, am I not supposed to do, they're like, no, you are not supposed to do that. They were gone. They were gone the next day. So if it happens, all right, but, um, yeah, just don't, don't make it happen. That is the worst thing you can do in comedy. Who do you think the comedian that helped you the most, they got you, that got you started in like, yeah, that's an awkward transition to go from no jokes dealing to let's talk about Carlos Mencia. But, uh, there, so Mencia has a reputation in the business and a lot and a lot of people accused him of jokes dealing. I will never tell people that they're wrong. I will, I, I'm probably not, I'm probably not going to convince you that, uh, if you think a certain way, you think a certain way. Fine. But I, but I will, but I will say this, that man took me on the road. He would pay for my hotel. He'd pay, he'd pay me. He, he would, if we go shopping, hey, put whatever you want on my pile. I, I, I, I got it. You sure that when you in that dirty photo? I have never been in a ditty party. I've never been to a ditty party. I'd be scared because that man has a lot of baby oil and I fit in a lot of places. But, uh, yeah, that's the guy that he, he, he brought me on the road. I was his opening act for four years. So that was my college. That was where I went and like really learned and stuff like that. Who do you think is one of the hardest comments to follow? I had a, I had a Burt Preicher on. He said Ralph, Ralph May, Ralphie May. Who? Ralph, you know what? Fuck him, May. RIP Ralphie May. Ralphie May was literally one of the hardest comments to follow. He is correct. Um, Ralph, Ralph may would do this thing. He found out he, he would find out where I was going, where I was touring. And if he knew where I was, where I was, he knew what morning radio I had to do the next day. So he would call in the morning radio shows that I was on. And all of a sudden I would hear the DJ go, uh, Ralphie May is on the line. And I'd be like, I know what he's about to do. And Ralphie May would go on live radio and go, Oh my God, people are Cincinnati. Let me tell you what, Brad Williams is going to be slinging dick all over your city. Oh, hide your ladies. Guys, don't bring, don't bring your ladies to this show. Just come because Brad Williams got a big dick. He trips over that thing. He would call in and, but he would always end it with Brad's really funny. Go see him. And I would sell more tickets because he would do that. Cause that was before I was really known. Right. So Ralphie, you never want to follow him. And, but also one of the nicest best comedians. If you don't know, look, look at stuff up. Yeah, he's nowadays, man. Joey Diaz. Yeah. Really hard to follow. Oh my God. So much energy. Bill, Bill Burr, Bert Kreischer. They're really, they're really great. Eliza Schlesinger, really great writer. There's a bunch of comedians, but I love, I, that's when I want to go on. I want to go on after the person just leveled the rate because I want to know. You got to rate, you got to rate, you got to rate. You got to rate. Let's go. Let's go. Iron sharpens iron. You know what I'm saying? Yes. So like I want there to be a guest spot and a big name walks in the room and wrecks the room. And then I, and then I got to, I got to go on. You got to follow that. I love that. It's like, I'm sure you guys got up for playing, you know, when it's the other big team in the league. Absolutely. Absolutely. Getting up for that. Yes. You know, we know everybody's watching. Exactly. When it, when it's, when Saturday Night Football or when you're playing Monday Night Football. Yep. That's the game, man. Yes. Because I know we have everybody's undivided attention. Now I'm following somebody that just brought the house down. Yeah. I want them to say, Hey, he was good. Yeah. When you got it, came on after him. Oh, dude, that's what I want. If I'm at the comedy store and Bill Burr goes on stage and wrecks the room, I want to go on right after that because there will be some people in the audience that don't know who I am, that know who Bill Burr is. And Bill Burr did what Bill Burr was expected to do. But then this guy that they don't know came up and wrecked it after him. Yeah. Who's that? Yeah, I want, I want that smoke. Bring it. This concludes the first half of my conversation. Part two is also posted and you can access it to whichever podcast platform you just listened to part one on. Just simply go back to Club Shadshay Profile and I'll see you there.