This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

#609 - Chris Distefano

90 min
Sep 10, 20257 months ago
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Summary

Chris DiStefano discusses his comedy career, recent engagement, and shift toward prioritizing family over touring. He reflects on how love has evolved from infatuation to committed action, shares insights on New York City politics and social issues, and explores themes of presence, faith, and personal growth with host Theo Von.

Insights
  • Love transitions from feeling-based (infatuation/lust) to action-based (loyalty, acceptance, commitment) over time in mature relationships
  • Presence and being fully engaged in the moment is more valuable than chasing external achievements or financial gains
  • Prioritizing family time and local stability over career expansion creates sustainable happiness and reduces daily stress
  • Social media and internet discourse amplify divisive narratives while disconnecting from real-world community experiences
  • Personal responsibility and small-scale positive actions matter more than attempting to solve systemic problems
Trends
Comedians shifting from touring-based careers to location-based content creation and family-focused workGrowing skepticism about social media authenticity and AI-generated content in online discourseIncreased awareness of mental health benefits from digital detox and social media disengagementRising interest in historical analysis and educational content as counterbalance to current events anxietyGenerational shift toward valuing time and presence over material wealth and status symbolsPodcast partnerships and collaborative content as alternative to traditional touring revenueRenewed focus on local community and neighborhood-level civic engagement over national politicsSkepticism toward mainstream media narratives and preference for peer-to-peer information sharing
Topics
Comedy Career Trajectory and Industry ChangesRelationship Evolution and Marriage CommitmentParenting and Family PrioritizationNew York City Politics and Municipal LeadershipSocial Media Impact on Mental HealthDigital Detox and PresencePodcast Production and DistributionHistorical Analysis and Educational ContentFaith vs Hope PhilosophyRacial and Cultural Identity in AmericaContent Authenticity and AI DetectionTouring vs Local Performance StrategySpousal Loyalty and Relationship DynamicsGenerational Wealth and PrivilegeComedy Community and Peer Relationships
Companies
Upward
Faith-based dating app for people seeking commitment and shared values, featured as sponsor
Moonpay
Cryptocurrency trading platform enabling fractional coin purchases via multiple payment methods
Sonic Drive-In
Fast food chain promoting Sonic Smasher burger with buy-one-get-one promotion
Morgan and Morgan
Personal injury law firm with contingency fee model and $25B+ in recovered client settlements
Shopify
E-commerce platform for entrepreneurs to build and scale online businesses
DoorDash
Food delivery service discussed regarding driver economics and food theft practices
Netflix
Streaming platform where DiStefano is filming comedy special at Beacon Theatre
YouTube
Video platform with content moderation policies affecting podcast distribution
Patreon
Subscription platform used for History Hyenas podcast with less restrictive content policies
People
Chris DiStefano
Recently engaged comedian discussing career shift toward family and local performance focus
Theo Von
Host conducting in-depth conversation about relationships, comedy, and life philosophy
Janis Popis
DiStefano's podcast partner on History Hyenas, recently reconciled after previous conflict
Jasmine
DiStefano's fiancée and mother of his children, subject of extended relationship discussion
Jim Norton
Old school New York comedian whose podcast Jim Norton Can't Save You is praised for quality
Colin Quinn
Referenced as part of influential old-school New York comedy scene from 1990s-2000s
Patrice O'Neill
Deceased influential comedian from old-school New York comedy scene
Bobby Lee
Referenced as regular at Opie and Anthony studio; recently passed away
Druski
Discussed for race-baiting comedy bit and potential collaboration with DiStefano
Zoran Momeni
NYC mayoral candidate with progressive tax and housing policies discussed
Curtis Sliwa
NYC mayoral candidate known for wearing signature red beret
Andrew Cuomo
Referenced as running against Momeni in NYC mayoral race
Louis C.K.
Recent guest on This Past Weekend podcast
Vic Henley
Deceased comedian from New York comedy scene
Keith Robinson
Referenced as part of influential old-school New York comedy scene
Quotes
"Love is not a feeling, it's an action. That's how it's evolved to me."
Chris DiStefano~1:45:00
"I realized that all that and the action of love and, you know, what we have with our children and building a family, like there's nothing, your life is happening right now."
Chris DiStefano~1:50:00
"I'm where my feet are. I'm fully with you right now. And then when I leave, I'll fully be with the driver and then I'll, and then, you know, when I speak to my family, I'll fully be with them."
Chris DiStefano~1:55:00
"Do the right thing, even if nobody's looking. Do the right thing."
Chris DiStefano~2:10:00
"Time has literally become more valuable than money to me right now because of my kids."
Chris DiStefano~1:20:00
Full Transcript
Did you ever notice how dating apps feel like you're just kind of scrolling through a yard sale of human emotions? I know a lot of people, good people, who want something real. Like actual commitment, not just a WYD at 1147PM. That's why I like this app called Upward. It's for people where faith actually matters. Not just, yeah, I went to church twice in 2014. I'm talking shared values, family, commitment, integrity. The stuff that makes a relationship solid. What's cool is you're starting from the same foundation. You're not three weeks in wondering, oh, you don't believe in marriage? Because that's a wild Tuesday to have. Upward is built for people who want to date with intention. Like you're actually trying to build something. Whether faith is the center of your life or just how you were raised, it helps you meet someone who's aligned before things get serious. And look, I'm not saying I've got it all figured out. You know that. I'm still out here. But if you're tired of guesswork and want something grounded in real values, this might be your move. Download Upward and start dating with intention. Go find your person. Today's guest is a stand-up comedian out of New York City. He's performing this Thursday at the Madison Square Garden Theater on 9-Eleven. I'm thankful to have him back in studio the recently engaged Mr. Chris DiStefano. I love this. You're pretty good. Yeah, dude, is racism still alive? What do you think is really going on with racism? With racism, what I really think is going on is I think that it's turning around now and now it's pretty much just whites and blacks coming together to be racist against the Chinese. You do? Yeah. So that's what I think is the nice thing about racism is we're kind of everybody's teaming up now. You know? And so it's about a common enemy because it used to be white versus black, but that's not at all what it is anymore. And Latinos have been absorbed up into white and it's everything is just, not Chinese Americans, just people from China. That's where it seems to be going now. Some black folks were beating up the Chinese during the COVID stuff. Remember that? That was the big thing. Obviously by my haircut, and you know me for a long time, but I have a lot of friends who are in the NYPD and I have an honorary police badge just because of the way I look. I was just given one. You know, like some people get like an honorary doctorate, like Bill Cosby, the G, OG. I got an honorary NYPD just because of my look. Oh, I could see you breaking that out like in a men's bathhouse or something like that. Everybody down! Yeah, yeah. And mouths open. Yeah, you know? I'm on a big group chat with like 30 cops and anytime there's like a protest, they'll just be, they'll just start writing CS and I'm like, what the hell is that? And they're like cracking skulls. Yeah. Yeah. Just start coming out. Coughing time. That's what it is. Yeah. I think that, um, yeah. You really think that? Because racism, like, you know, it's just, it's gotten into, like when I was young, it was like, I don't want to say it was nice or whatever, but it was just, it was easy. It was like, okay, everybody was a certain thing and you kind of got to pick them out and you knew who was going to pick on you type of thing. Yeah. But then people started getting so mixed. It's like you almost need, like a calculate. You almost, you're like, what is, you know, what I'm only going to be races against half of this person or a quarter of them. It's like, it's just too confusing now. Right. Well, it's too confusing. It's like when you started doing fractions when you were like in fourth grade. Yeah. And it's also like everybody is every race and everybody's every gender and everyone, like I haven't even in my own family because, you know, I got my kids are half white, half Latino. And, you know, I have a 10 year old daughter and a four year old daughter. And there's even division there. Like my 10 year old has chosen to be more Latina and my four year old has chosen to be more white. That's what's so. And, and so I'll have my four year old multiple times, multiple times. My four year old has, you know, cause she's there, learn these kids are so damn good on the iPad now. Multiple times. My four year old has been fully on FaceTime with ICE agents trying to get my 10 year old locked up. And then it's like, you know, do you put them, cause I, and I put them in time out, but you're like, is that enough? And time out is what the government is trying to put him in. Exactly. Is it just like a practice? Like, you know, I think these days for, I think for Latina kids, you got to make time out intense. Right. You know, to at least get them ready in case they get picked up. That's what actually it's funny you say that. That's what I've been implementing in my house. I have a little room in my basement. Alligator Alcatraz. Well, we actually call it Guantanamo Bay. Yeah. And so we have it set up. We have like a little video camera there. We put them all in, you know, masks when they go down there. And it's a whole thing to get them set up because the truth is, man, is if one, one of my children has chosen to be white and one of my children has chosen to be Latino. That's on them. That's on them. And it caused division with, you know, my wife and I, like I have to now choose, you know, and obviously I choose white, you know, as you have. I don't, I mean, I think these days I am on the defense, you know, or like, how do you say defense in Spanish? Bring that up. La Fence. You think? That's French. Now you used to. La Valle. La Valle. Now do you. She's cute. How old is she? No, what's the way we're in Tennessee? So I don't know what's the age. I mean, I'll say excuse a little. Yeah, nothing to drive down here for. I just want to say I love Celsius. It's not like the old days. I'm going to need some today. Really? Are you not feeling, I'm sorry, man. No, I'm okay. Let's go through some of the stuff you've said already because yeah, I do think, you know, these days they're picking up so many people or so many things that at home time out should be more extensive for these kids. It's got to be more intense. You've got to put them under a bright lamp or something like that. You've got to, you know, tape their feet to the floor and tickle them. Like you've got to do things that are going to prep them. Well, yeah. And also too, I like, I prepare my children, you know, for, because, you know, for like, kidnappings and things like that, because with all the Netflix content and just content in general needs to come out, you have to think that networks and streamers are going to start to just do things for the content. So they will just let a serial killer loose or just pay a dude to just kind of get out there and kidnap kids. So they have the story. So you have to, you know, my kids want to get into acting. So maybe that's the way. Well, you know, they just started a lot of those, uh, pedophiles that they're busting of it air at Target. You've seen these TikToks. No, that's what the beautiful thing. Have you seen them? I haven't because I've been off social media. Okay. Not on social. I've, I've, I've went away. I just let my kids go on it. That's fine. I just let them, I just let them kind of get all the energy out on social media, let them make profiles, talk to whomever they want. And I'm not on it. Oh, you got to keep the breadwinner safe. Yeah, dude, I got to, you know, my brain got to be here. Yeah. Um, you know, dude, I was thinking that there, a lot of, uh, the pedophiles that are now, I guess they always now it's not even cops busting them. It's just like dudes busting them. It's like regular dude, the little one up on a guy and they're like, so who are you here to see? You know, right? And it's just some guy and, but the, you know, the guy has been flirting flirting with a child online, a hypothetical child. The other guy is busting him has been sitting around pretending to be a child, making sexual advances or I don't want to say that entirely, but communicating sexually with a hypothetical adult. Cause at that point they don't know they're online, which both sides of it, like definitely the predator is that's it. That's a crime. The other side also has to be a little bit weird at a certain times. Like the psyche that happens if all day or six hours a day for four days a week, you're sitting there pretending to be a child and like responding to like sexual advances of adults has to be kind of weird. It's yes. But then they get them to these places and instead of busting them, now they're doing things where there's physical challenges and they let them go if they can complete the physical challenge. Yeah. It's kind of a genius move because it's like, it's kind of like, you know, American Ninja Warrior meets Chris Hansen, which is kind of dope. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's kind of interesting because we have to get to that level. But I think, yeah, I unfortunately now everything you got to know what's content, everything in some ways is content. So what I like to do is I don't film it. I just do for the great, greater good is I, there was a dude in the local Buffalo Wild Wings in the mall near my house. And what he was doing is he was sitting in the stall and he had little cameras coming out of his pants up onto his shoes, shooting up, filming up. And he would look for little kids. When he slide the camera under the slide. He would slide the shoe under and it would be just taking snapshots and videos of little kids on the toilet. So what I would do is I would go in there and I had, you know, I call it a fake baby penis, but it was just my actual penis that looks relatively, you know, like a baby penis, not circumcised kind of just there. I actually still have the umbilical cord. It kind of looks like an Audi belly button. Yeah, you've seen it before. Yeah, exactly. So and I still got the umbilical cord. So I just had them, I would just have them take pictures of my, you know, baby dick and balls and then we bust them like that. And I wouldn't even call the police. It would just be my friends from the group chat. I would just say it's CS and then we just start cracking skulls and then that's how we'd get them off the streets because you do got to think. I agree with you, you know, these people that expose the pedophiles, it's like you're not a pedophile, but you're also not doing it for the greater good. I think there has to be some weird psychological thing that has to mess with you after a while. Um, bring up some of the, uh, those pedophiles that were completing the challenges and stuff. Can you see that? You look a kind of beefy dude up in the shoulders like you're stronger now. I have been in, I've been in the gym. I'm feeling tired. Do you think you have early stage COVID? What do you, what are you tired from? Do you think? Bro, I don't, you have to first of all fully believe in COVID to even get it. I believe 100% but they're just getting stronger. That's great. And then they let them back in a lot. It's like they're just getting stronger. Yeah. Well, that's getting the summer doing hurdles. One guy had to eat like 40 eggs and it's like, okay, now he's now you got mad. Now you got mad protein and you can grab any kid you want. Well, it's just they're getting stronger. So do you think then the solution is obviously to give the kids guns? Oh, dude, would that be the solution? Cause that's what's going to happen is the first active shooter is going to go in with a plan and get shot by the students right away and just feel like an idiot. What if they had a dude named Guantanamo Bay, right? B A E and he was just like this gay dude in the like in Guantanamo that was just like slurping everybody. Yeah. Like everything fine. Dude, I would want to get arrested. You would be that you'd be a great guy to be Guantanamo Bay. And I know how to play both sides. I know how to play Latino and gay easily. You could do it. I have both dudes living inside me right now. Yeah. Well, I think, I mean, yeah, I think, look, if that's how you feel, I'm not, I'm not, you know, I'm a, I don't know. I'll tell you how I feel about that. My pronouns are he knows. He knows. Wait, no, so close. What's this between no, so close and vosotros. Vosotros means us. What is no, so close. We got it. I think that's it. Oh, vosotros means you. Sorry. I think it's formal. Can you hit that accent? Because I'm. Those are the rules. God, dude, I have two kids right now. Do you want kids, man? Yeah, I want some. I want to get into that, dude. But I do want to also ask you, though. Yeah. What did you think about? Oh, they just had that Druski clip that came up. I want to talk about that about. Did you see that? No, but I'd love to see it. It's cool to not know what's going on in the world at all. And it's also cool to catch up with you. And I don't even know what's going on in your life. Well, this is the kind of thing that's happening. And we will get into that because I knew last time you were here, we had a huge conversation for two hours. It was Valentine's Day. We talked about love. We talked about where we're at. It must have been years ago, dude. It was a couple of years ago. You've had some big things happen in your life where you have been forced into marriage by a semi-illegal alien. And we're going to talk about that. We're going to talk about that. But first, I want to talk a little bit more about race and race baiting. OK. Cross racial behaviors right here. This is a clip of a white male that Druski put together. OK. Here's the love. Here's the honor. If you can't come near her, come on over. I think this is a Jason Kelsey impersonation also. Yes. Look at this. Hey, Suanna. Suanna. You didn't listen to your Nana. Look at the cedar point. What is this? Yo. Do you think that kind of racism happens that much, really? Or this is more like in movies type shit? I mean, look, dude. I live in New York. So I don't know what it's like in the South. But I know racism exists. I also know that it's kept alive by the media and the internet and all that stuff because there's so many people that make so much profit off it that you're like, but I mean, I think that's fine. I mean, Druski doing that is just like a good bit. But I should be able to then fully dress black. Well, that's where I'm going, right? Because at this point, it's like, yeah, this is hilarious, right? Like I thought the part with the black dude was great. It's so tough to watch because you're like, is he now perpetuating this thing that I don't think that shit happens, dude. Like, you know what I'm saying? I grew up in areas with a lot of racism. You know, I've dabbled in it. Sure. But I don't see that kind. I mean, I think you see that shit like in a time to kill an old movie or like, you know, like in the heat of the night, you know, and that's just my perception. But I don't know if a lot of my black friends will say that they see that kind of shit. Maybe they do, though. Maybe I'm completely blind. Maybe. But I think at this point, it's like you could do that. Somebody could do a black face if they wanted to, right, to create humor in it. Do you think so? I mean, I guess you can, you can try. I think you could try whatever you want. You could try. I think you do it up. You try whatever you want. I don't have me personally. I wouldn't do it not because of just because I don't have the comedy behind it. You wouldn't look good as a as a African American. Exactly, dude. And I, because I got a lot of skin tags. So even if I went like black face or black full body, because I would most likely just go black chest. Oh, I go black arms and legs and I get out on the court and I ball. Right. And I would keep the face white, but I got a lot of skin tags and moles and stuff. So it wouldn't look right. But I think every in the name of comedy, I say give it a try. Yeah. That's why with Druski, I mean, that was funny to me. Give it a try. Any white person that's offended by that is just, you know, they're kind of Guantanamo Bay in a way. Yeah. You know, in a way, dude. Everybody's kind of just a little bit sensitive and you really start to feel better about your life. I think ultimately when you come, well, again, I won't want to, I don't generalize anything anymore. Me specifically, I started to feel so much better and happier when I just got off social media. Cause I was like, Oh, the regular, all the racism and drama, it's all happening in the comments of people that you don't know. You don't know any, anybody, I've made a decision in my life. If I don't know you personally, you don't affect me at all. Positive or negative. You can tell me how great I am. Doesn't matter. You can tell me how much I suck. Doesn't matter. You could call me any name in the book. Don't care. Unless I personally knew you. If you, Theo Vaughn was like, Hey, Chris, this, your f***er or whatever. Exactly. Well, dude, I mean, that's, that's how we talk. I would just, I would just look at my last text from you. Yeah. Facts, facts, facts. But no, I just think I like, I love this in the name of comedy. I think it's the kind of comedy that's fun and that you need. And I think like, if somebody were doing something messed up and that is racist, I think you can feel that. Yes. Undeniably. To me, you can't be racist and funny. It's one or the other. Like you can't, you can't be hateful. You can't be, you can't be racist and hateful. Like you're like, you know, like Hitler, Hitler wasn't funny. You know what I mean? He was racist, but he wasn't funny. Well, who? He could have been a little funny, but you know, the racist stuff he was doing wasn't funny, but he could have been funny outside his racism. That I don't know. Did he ever sense a humor? Will you bring that up if Hitler had a sense of humor? Yeah, I think he did. Um, nature of Hitler's humor. Hitler's humor was often sarcastic or offensive, sometimes involved pranks directed at his associates. Examples include telling politically charged or racially derogatory jokes at public events and meetings and making light of aggressive or threatening situations. His jokes tended to reinforce Nazi ideology or humiliate perceived enemies. Well, there's memes online of him and Goreng, who was the head of the Luftwaffe, the Air Force, them just laughing. That's a lot of times in the group chat that Giffel gets sent around with Hitler and Goreng just laughing. Well, they're probably off work for a little while. Yeah, I mean, you can't, you're not on all the time. A specific example of Hitler's humor is the elaborate prank he played on his foreign press chief, Ernest Humst... Humstangle. Humstangle. Humstangle. Putsl. Hits are convinced, Humstangle, that he would have to parachute behind enemy lines during the Spanish Shibor as part of a dangerous mission. Humstangle, terrified and confused, spent hours circling the German countryside by plane before the pilot revealed the truth and landed safely. Another account concerns Hitler's cold willingness to use jokes to humiliate or intimidate others. For example, Hitler reportedly joked with Ernest Goring. Goring, Mr. Head, guy. That to make the people of Berlin happy, he should jump off the radio tower. A joke that became widely told and led to harsh punishment for those who repeated it publicly. Ooh, that's the thing. I don't know if you've ever done comedy in Germany, but they tell you, you go to do comedy in Germany, you cannot make fun of Nazis. You can't do any of that. Really? Like you can't make any jokes about it at all. They just don't want to hear about it. They said you could get deported for that. I was like, do you mean make fun of it? Like, you mean like don't condone it or like don't make fun of the Nazis because that's what you guys like, fuck what? Like you guys are proud of that. And he was like, it's up to you. Yeah. It's up to you. Yeah, which sounds a little bit risque right there. Right, yeah. Nazi humor is heavily restricted and can be considered illegal for comedians in Germany, especially if it involves Nazi propaganda symbols or a Holocaust denial. Right. Due to strict laws prohibiting such content. Huh. Yeah. Yeah, dude. Oh, you know who was about to go to Germany who was Jim Jeffries is about to go there. Yeah. Yeah. And why did he go? I think he said that he has issues with audiences there. Like he's selling everywhere in Europe except for some reason, not in Germany. Well, it seems like they don't have the best sense of humor. It seems like because they went through a lot and I feel like, but I, when I did my shows there, I did a show in Munich and they were having fun, man. Yeah. They were having fun. You just, you, you know, like, you know, you stay away from the Nazi stuff. You don't make fun of them. And if anything all fails, you, Juden, Juden, which is Jew, do a bit about that. Really? It's all good. You know what's interesting? What do you say, Juden? I, yeah, I was, I was calling myself Juden Foster, like Judy Foster. I was like, Juden Foster and they were laughing at that. Like God, she's not aged well. Yeah. Yeah. She's on hormones. I do kind of look like a lesbian a little bit, right? You look like the lambs have been screaming right in your face. Yeah, I know. Some people will tell me that. Oh, I was thinking Jodie Foster. Jode, that's what I said, Juden Foster. Oh, yeah. But yeah, Nell from Nell, remember Nell when she was just like, oh, he's going to burn on the grid. Her? Boy in the woods. And Nell, Nell, there was a movie Nell where she's raised by wolves and she just has a full bush. Oh, I don't like that kind of shit. You don't like pubic hair? Huh? When you had to manipulate all those vaginas before you had this comedy career, though, you had to run into some bush. We used to talk about that a lot. I'm not against it. I believe in like, if I were a time traveler or something, yeah. Right. I'd get used to it, you know, because it's only recently, how long did women have bushes for it? It's hundreds of thousands of years. The whole thing about women not having bushes just started recently. That's the thing. And who knows what the effect of that is on children. Yeah. Also, circumcision is too like you can cut the four skins straight up your son's piece and that's kind of a new thing. You don't know what that's going to do to him. Oh, they're mailing some of those over to those tech lords in Israel. I think they're chomping those fucking gummy bears for those guys. I was supposed to go to Chicago tonight. Maybe I'll go to Tel Aviv, baby. No, don't go. You have two kids, dude. You don't want anybody getting the wrong idea. Oh, shit. You know, this guy's beaten three challenges. Yeah, you think so? I had a blueberry muffin today too. I put protein in everything. Let me see what this says. Women do not stop having pubic hair. Trends in grooming and styling of pubic hair have changed throughout history. With the 1980s and 1990s, bringing a boom in grooming that included styles for being bare. But 2010s and 2020s saw resurgence of the natural bush style. Yeah, it's definitely interesting that that kind of took on. Who is the first woman to have bare pubic hair? Like who fully shaved it? Yeah. I mean, that's like the first person that had a convertible open. You're like, whoa. Yeah, the first person to think to shave that. It is impossible to definitively name the first woman to have fully shaven pubic hair publicly as it was historical practice long before the advent of modern media and documentation. Okay, so it's been around for a long time. Right. In Egypt, Rome and Greece, for hygiene status and beauty, upper class Roman and Egyptian women, for instance, use tools like pumice stones, razors, tweezers, and sugaring to achieve hairlessness. Wow. So if you had like a bunch of hair, or you had like a 50 pound test rope coming out of there. Dude, would you ever shave your head with a pumice stone? That would look, dude, do you think he'll shave your head? One day when I have children and once my wife leaves me. Yeah, that's when you'll do it? Because then I'll go to court for alimony and like, oh, he's not doing good. We got to let him keep a little bit of money. Now, is that full? Is that all your real hair? Oh, yeah. Dude, that's, it's crazy, dude. You got great hair. I've been shedding recently this past like month, dude. Really? A lot of times people will shed in like August and September. So you didn't get that in Turkey? That's your natural hair. Now I've had hair taken out of the back and put into the front once. Oh, good. How would that feel? I don't think I needed it. I think I actually was going through a ton of stress and I lost hair and then it, like a lot of it grew back. Yeah. And I liked it. The way it looks with a hat is pretty good too. You look good. There's somebody, somebody out there right now, a woman right there out there has bush, has grown out her bush and cut it like that. 100%. I guarantee you there's a lady out there with pin straight pubic hair. She's probably most likely Asian. They have the straightest hair and she's made it into that because she's a fan. Mmm. You know? That'd be nice. I mean, I'm sure she'll come to shows and they'll have like fun wigs on and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. But if you had a woman that had that just solid hair, I mean that thing braided into just like it looked like a damn, the chin of a professional wrestler. Oh, that's great. You know, in the 80s or 90s. And looking at you, I don't know if anyone's, and stop me if anyone's ever said this before, but you have the kind of look, you have a very unique look where you look like you're from the past but also from the future at the same time. Has anyone ever said that to you or have you ever thought about that? You look, think about it. Think about it. People watch and take a look at Theo. He looks like, you know, obviously like could be in the Civil War, like a Civil War painting from the past. But then he also looks like a woman from the future. Hey girl. Right? Oh, hey, hey girl. I look like a black woman from the future, dude. You do? Yo, it looks great and I'm happy that I'm seeing it now, dude. Hey sister. Yeah, bro. This bus is late. Hell yeah, dude. Where's my chick? I can't wait. It's crazy, man. I'm happy we're doing this. Oh dude, we used to have, I remember there would be like this drunk black woman where our school bus would go by. She would come in and bang on the driver's side, which is not even a door. It's just a window, right? For the driver of the bus and she'd be like, where's my check? Like, like that lady was like the bus driver was supposed to bring like her government money or whatever. I was like, what the fuck is going on? Yeah, well, how I don't have your check lady. She yelled at us kids. 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You know what happened? I bit off more than I could chew. About six months ago, I said, they came to me. They're like, oh, show on on September 11th. Yeah. That's lit. That's lit. So they said, you know, want to make it a day. So I said, I had done 2023. I did Radio City and theater at MSG back to back night. So they were like, let's try the arena, you know, because I'm from New York. And then the ticket sales, they were just not moving. And like everybody, like I had an opportunity, I had a decision. They were like, look, you could either wait. We see a huge increase in ticket sales a week before ish. That's the way the trends are now for certain people. Or they were like, you could just pull the plug right now and we can move it downstairs to the theater. And I just said, you know what, man? I'm going to, I know me. I know my brain. I know my heart. I'm going to carry a lot of stress for six, seven months. And I said, me doing the arena is definitely a goal and a dream. And we'll try again. But a lot of it was just ego. So I was like, move it to the theater. And now the theater is all but sold out. And I haven't stressed about it in six months. It's going to be amazing. Family's going to come. And then, you know, I'm going to, I'm going to detonate a suicide vest at the end of it. Oh, I take everybody down. You needed some sort of fireworks at the end. Yeah. Also inviting people into the city on 9 11 is a wild move. It was a wild move. Yeah. I made a ton of mistakes, but I had a manager back then who had a ponytail. So we were making wild moves back then. So we're not together anymore. He's still my boy. But I was like, yo, dude, cause he told me he booked me for this, the arena on 9 11. And then he told me to hold 5 p.m. The same day open because he thought I could do 15,000 seats at a stadium in Faris Hills, Queens. So he thought I could sell 30,000 tickets and I sold like 2000. But he said it, but when he was saying it to me, it was crazy. Cause he's like, you know, obviously on Coke and he had the ponytail and the glasses on and he was wearing bathing suit shorts and like a, like a button up top. And it was December and he was eating a fruit cup. Yeah. And he was eating a fruit cup and he was like, I guess you could do it, baby. He was like, I know you could do it. I know you could do it. So you get pumped up and then he put me on this arena tour and then we have to cancel them all. Yeah. Yeah. So I like him. I respect him for really, you know, swinging. But, you know, we have the same agent, but my agent was like telling me from the beginning was like, this is a dumb idea. And I said, dude, look at him. He knows what he's talking about. Look at his pony tails. Sleek. He uses herbal essence. And then my agent was like, all right, dude, the guy is two barrettes. Yeah. Come on, dude. I was like, look at him. He wears a child's headband. Yeah. Dude, this guy is legit. I said, I might fire you and hire him. And then after a week of the ticket sales, agent was like, pull it. Pull it. Yeah. And then he was like fire the master. Yeah. So, so we're still cool. That guy and I are still cool. I hope he's still alive. But I'm at the theater there. And then, and, but you know what, man? It's one of those things. And my little daughter taught my, well, my older daughter, my 10 year old, because I was a little bummed about this because I was a big moment in time for me. I was like, Oh, daddy's going to get to do the arena. I almost want to do the arena at MSG because it would almost set me free because that was my only real goal. I've ever had to do comedy. A lot of guys, you know, girls, they do comedy for all their different reasons. My only reasons I ever left my physical therapy job was to do the arena at MSG and to have a sitcom about my father. Those are the only things I've ever cared about. So I almost felt like if I could get that one, it would almost set me free because the everyday stress of this, of this career sometimes, you know, it plays with you. Because you had the sitcom, right? Well, I had a sitcom pilot. So, but I'm hoping I still, I have one in development now. So I'm hoping that I could get that one and just fulfill at least one of the two and then set the sites on the arena because I'm going to get that one. I don't know that I'm a guy that does stand up forever. I'm not, I'm already mentally being like, it's very difficult for me to go on the road and be away from the family. When I started this, I didn't have a family, but now that I do, I'm like, man, this weighing and so I'm looking for real opportunities to just stay in New York. You know, that's where I live. So my kids are and my wife and kids. So, but my daughter, what she told me was, I guess she had just learned it in school. I was like upset when we had to pull the arena because it was like this whole big exciting thing for me. That was upset. Well, my daughter was, well, yeah, because I mean, you know, she's got second, she has to tell her friends in school like my dad's a loser, right? So she had to say that. So she told them that, but then she was like, but she said, she said to me when I was upset about it, she was like, oh, it's all right, daddy. She was like, remember, in this life, there's no losses just learning. And I was like, nice. That's it. Wow. She said that she's why I say my daughter, but it was actually Janis Popis who I do the history high in his podcast with. But he looks like my daughter. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cause my daughter looks like Marisa. Oh, That's it. That was our first first. She went, that's it. Yeah. Yeah. So me and Janis, we got the history hyenas pod and so it's back. It's back, bro. We came back about a year ago. I see him and I, him and I, you know, we, we, we kissed and made up. Well, we 60, 90 each other and then, and then, and dude, this has been some of the most fun I've had doing comedy again because it's, it's, it's, you know, you're talking with your, with your friend about history, what I love in New York city, which I love and it's a place for me to stay in New York. And we really just have a lot of fun doing the history. He's so smart. Oh, that, well that I learned. That's the thing. I like sitting next to someone where I'm actually learning and laughing. So that's it. That's it. I mean, the, really the premise of the show is, you know, we talk about a history topic, but he typically knows much more than I do. And I'm kind of learning through him and pepper in jokes and all that stuff. But it's, it's great. And, uh, yeah, just getting to see you guys back together is great. Also just being like, I mean, I think you definitely realize as you get older, it's like, you know, having some connectivity being around your friend is like one of the best things. And this is out every week. Every single week we come out every Thursday. Awesome. And my message is, is if me and Yanis could patch it up Israel, Palestine, so can y'all. I saw the tagline actually for history hyenas now it says to chat GPT sluts. Yeah. Cause it used to be two Wikipedia slots, but that comes see history in a different way. Yeah. That comes see history in a different way to chat. He BT slots that comes see history in a different way. Yeah, dude. And on our, on our Patreon, I don't know if you guys do Patreon here, but on our Patreon dude, like that we've, we've just been him and I've been going crazy because basically, you know, when we first did the show, the rules on YouTube were different, right? Like in 2017, 18, 19 YouTube wasn't as strict as it is now. So we almost, almost are kind of feeling like the show that we used to do for free on YouTube is can only exist on the Patreon and the show we do on YouTube is definitely dope. But we are like, man, dude, we came out and we put out these episodes that we thought were good and YouTube just kept dinging us. Yeah. So we're like, yo, now we got, we can only have fun on the Patreon. But, you know, for me, man, it's, it's, it's, I'm solely focused. Like I have, I never had goals in this and I never, I was always flying by the seat of my pants really for my whole life. But now I'm like so laser focused on anything I can do to stay in New York City and make as many of pickup and drop offs with my kids as possible. That's what I'm looking for. So like the idea, even if you, you know, somebody came to me and said, I'll give you X amount that'll change your life financially, but it's a world tour. I would say no. Yeah. I would say I can't do it. Time has literally become more valuable than money to me right now because of my, because I think my kids really, because I think my kids reached that age where I'm like, Oh, when they're little, it's one thing. But when they're older and you're missing everything, you're like, Oh, okay, hold on, hold on. What's the priorities here? And you like the kids. Like I think if the kids hit four, six years old and you're like, uh, uh, yeah, I got a buddy, his son, right? And bless him. Bless him. Benjamin. That's my buddy's name and his son, he named his son fucking Ben June. I'm like, you fucking loser. He didn't even think about it. What a dick. He didn't even think about it. The wife was unconscious or whatever because the, the birth was. Yeah. It's a black guy and he's like, yeah, it was a hot birth. And he's like, just give him Benjamin, you know, and he goes, and I'll change my name. And the nurse like, no, you don't, that's not how you do. Like he thought you could do it. Like if he names a kid Benjamin, then he's not Benjamin anymore. I'm like, this fucking guy should not have a kid. Right. But yeah, he's at the point now. He's like, dude, me and my kid have nothing in common. I'm like, dude, it's not how it, it sound like you got put with a roommate, like your first year at like nickel state or something. I mean, you're just doing your, you know, you have to be the leader in the relationship. But, but yeah, I think if you get to a certain point and your kid is just like, you know, he's not doing at least pulling a little bit of weight. It's gotta be kind of tough. Well, that's the thing. Well, like I said, my daughters are, you know, they're motivated. As I said in the beginning of the show, I mean, my four year old has got, you know, a point of view. She calls legitimate says I'm racist against Latinos and I call ice on my own family. For me, it's country first and I trust, I love, I mean, every password on my phone or my key like any, you want to break it to my house or break it to anything I own, you want my bin, my bank pin password, you know what the only four digits that it would ever be, you know what they are? 0000. 1776, baby, the year of this country and my daughter, my little one takes that. And then my older one, you know, like I said, she's more Latina extortion, gang violence, things like that. And they are, and they've picked lanes, which I really respect and like that. Look, and then, and then, but there is a little division because obviously the older one is pro-Palestine and the little ones pro-Israel. I like that shit. Yeah. Well, I think here's one thing, dude, is a lot of like Latinos too. I saw, I actually, actually one of your daughters sent me a picture and the pro ice one. Yeah. She's had a tattoo on her back and said, this ice don't melt on me. Yes. Oh, for real. It's crazy, right? It's very risky. Very risky. But you know what, dude, but you, that bro, you know, it's crazy. We've been doing this for like roughly an hour and you've said risk a three times and three different contexts, which I respect and like about you. And I've always liked that about you. Well, first of all, risk a also was a urban girl that I went to high school with. And I hope she's doing well risk a Wilson. There was two kids that I went to high school with their names. They were brothers. The names were majestic and scientific map. No. Yeah. I want to go to school with them, but they play basketball in a school around the time I was playing basketball. And those are two interesting brothers names. I love that. You like that? Yeah. I just love that. I think in black culture, anything could be your name. That's true. Like we get like one out of about 110 names. Yeah. But in black culture, it could be it's fucking dude, the guy in the jets was named the brickshaw. Yeah. The brickshaw Ferguson. His first name was the brickshaw. I met a girl. Her, uh, her son was named no Dante, right? She's like, I was going to name him Dante, but I knew he was going to be misbehaving. So I wanted to put no in front of like that's freaking genius, man. Um, let's talk a little bit about what's going on in New York. I know right now you guys have mom, Donnie. Do you think he'll be able to, he's running for mayor, right? He's probably going to win too for mayor. He is. But that's why I've packed up and left New York City. Really? Well, I live in the suburbs. Okay. So you've already left. Yeah. What's that heat up there like what's like, what's going on? Do you notice any of it in the air or not? Um, I think, um, mom, Donnie, you notice that people are. The New York post, which is the only one I mess with the New York post really goes after him hard. Oh, they do. So there's a little bit of fear mongering. I think amongst the media, um, I do think that he probably has good intentions, but I think like most of us think is that, you know, New York City is a city that you need millionaires and billionaires. And if you drive them all out with the tax, with the tax hikes, then you're just going to lose the city. So I think that's the fear. I think I understand what he wants with, you know, people should pay their, everybody should pay more fair taxes. I'm all with that. But he, you know, he has an idea of like raising the millionaires tax millionaires, billionaires like to like a level that they're just, because I know people, it's easy for people to say, oh, but they have so much money. It's like, yeah, but that's their mindset, how they got so much money. They never thought like that. So you're not going to change some like 55 year old white dude's mindset. Like he's about that money. So if you want him to stay and keep contributing to the tax burden, you got to make it appetizing for him. Or he's just going to go to Florida or Tennessee or somewhere else or she or they. Well, let me establish him a little bit. So Zoran, he is what ethnicity is he? Pakistani, I think, is he or Indian? Zoran. You don't want to mess that up because Pakistan and India are. You don't want to mess with the Zoran. You don't know. No way. Oh yeah. There's mom Donny. He was born in Kampala, Uganda. Yeah, to an Indian family. Okay. Zoran, mom Donny, the Democratic nominee for New York City mayor and current assembly member centers his politics on affordability, social security nets, freeze rents on rent stabilized units and triple affordable housing construction aiming for $200. $400,000 new units in 10 years increased enforcement against exploitive landlords and establish an office of deed theft prevention for homeowners, especially in black and Latinx neighborhoods, alphabet city, double funding for public housing preservation. Yeah. Distribute baby baskets with essential goods and resources to all New York City parents, increased New York City minimum wage to increase New York City minimum wage to $30 an hour about 2030. So he definitely kind of has this like for the little man. Yeah, that's what he's thinking about for the little man, which I respect, but I just don't know if New York City is this city for it. I just I don't know. I honestly don't. The thing is, I really don't know all the stuff is above my head. Yeah, I've just I've just left the city. All right, you're out. My well, well, because do you think the city changed over my girl wanted to leave and she's Latina, you know, that's the thing is like people think I think people think like, oh, you know, the media has made everyone think like the white people. Are just the worst and we're the only ones who, you know, don't want this or that. But it's like, yo, the Latinas, bro, if you've ever put like a Google translate at a Puerto Rican barbecue. Whoo. You know, they're unhappy. I mean, bro, you think you'd be like, okay, Senor Hitler, like, you know what I mean? Like they they go in against Israel. Everybody. Oh, they. Everybody catches it. Oh, the Latinos. Oh, the Latinos have a lot of they have some racism a little bit. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's good to know because you kind of don't know if they do sometimes. They do know those like black and Latino gang violence. Yeah. But you don't hear much about it otherwise, you know, that's good. Yeah, old school black guys, very racist. Yeah, everybody's kind of racist, man. Yeah, you could you could, you know, well, people are tribal too. It's like that's what it is tribal. Everybody wants to make it all right. It's like, you know, there's like, there's like a lot of black crime in places like I'm not racist because I don't want to be in some of this place. I got a friend one time who was trying to get me to come to like this clothing shop that they had and there's a lot of crime there and it's young black kids attacking people stealing car car jack and shit. I'm not I'm not going or it's like, no, I'm not risk. It's like that doesn't make me racist. I just want to preserve my own life. I'm just trying to live baby. But but I think more and more now from again, the little sense just just talking to people not on the internet just in real life of every race. More people getting sick of it. More people like, yo, let's move past it now. Not everything's got to be racist, sexist. I think the me too. Not to me to the pandemic. I think it like kind of it hit its fever pitch. Now kind of like broke and it's just like people like I'm exhausted by that. Don't don't talk to me about that. Yeah, I agree. I think people see that it's also like this thing that they try to get like different political groups to fight over. It's all a smirk. It's all like, hey, fight over this shit while everything else disappears. You know what I'm saying? So people are getting starting to get to know about it now. Yeah. But I think it's interesting to have guys that are different. I get it. I'm always the underdog fan, right? I'm always the underdog fan. Yeah. Well, he's not the underdog though. I don't think I think it's pretty clear he's going to win. I mean, you got governor Cuomo who is running against him, right? He's running against the nursing home. So he's trying. He keeps trying to get mom Donnie into a nursing home so he can murk him. Got Curtis Sliwa, Silwa, who's got the beret, which I would vote for him. I understand. But I can't, he won't take his hat off. Let me see. Bring up Silwa on that. Yeah, Silwa. So that's the problem is Silwa won't take the hat off. So I can't have you as my mayor with that hat on. You know what I mean? Like I just, if he took the hat off, I think he'd get more votes, but he refused. He wears the full suit with that hat on. Oh, yeah. It's kind of like the muffin man. Let's get a look. Let's get a little bit more of them. Can we get some audio on him? Yeah. Lift an Uber and they are constantly being threatened with perverts who come up to them. Sexually harass them. Men for the most part don't have that issue. Pat, I'm in all 350 neighborhoods, all 472 of the platforms in the vast city. Subway system. I'm on the only candidate in the subway every day. What are you talking about? He acts like, what is he the fucking? He's the Lord of DoorDash drivers. There's no way he's in all those places. Dude. Could you imagine? He looks like fucking, he looks like Isidore Dash, dude. He looks like the great chancellor of DoorDashian. Dude, he's just yelling about perverts and hoovers. Dude, they should have a show called Keeping Up with the DoorDashians. Yeah. You all are going to be crazy, dude. We should make that. Should we pitch that? Yeah. I think we're, you know, let's just do it. Let's just do it. Keeping up with the DoorDashians. And it's just a family that DoorDashes and they're just pissed about it. They're like, oh, I'm taking these rich motherfuckers on the Upper East Side. It's fucking like, oh, I just delivered Ben Stiller, some tater tots, you know, they're just fucking pissed everybody. They're like, oh, Durso, which once is waffle fries shaped into a kid's pelvis. You know, you're like, that seems a little risky. Yo, there's the fourth time. Risque. Oh, it does. Dude, I love it, man. Keep it going. Thank you. Let's get a counter up there. Keeping up with the DoorDashians is a hit show, bro. Wow. See, that's what I'm saying, dude. You think your mind is not there. You keep saying your mind needs these little mental resets and that's how you're able to get such good bits and you're taking little breaks, which is what more people should do. You take little breaks. That's what I was saying. This old, that old dude that I was telling you about, about the muffin who told me he doesn't stress about the muffin. He told me he's 98 years old because he takes little breaks. He was like, oh, when you put your kid in the car seat, put in the car seat and instead of just going right back to the driver's seat, if she was a door, yell some slurs, right, put drive the car into a garage, shut the door, keep the engine running and then you leave. No. He said, take a long walk around the car. Take five seconds to breathe and reset. You got your baby safe in the car seat and then don't just jump right in the driver's seat and start driving. Take five seconds the long way. Find little breaks throughout the day. And that's what you do. You take little breaks. I like it. Like reset system instead of racism, reset system or like recidivism, but it's reset a system. I like it. That's what I'm saying, dude. Thanks, dude. Get a little reset. Reset. I haven't seen you in like two years. I know, man. It's crazy, dude. I can't believe that it's been that long. I think time just gets kind of going and then things get kind of hectic. Are you home or you're on the road? Is your goal to stay home like my goal is to stay home? It is now. I've been on the same tour for almost four years. So you're off it now. I have. We're doing a tape and a special in New York at the Beacon. Best theater. You're doing it for Netflix, Al Jazeera, Hulu. Netflix. Nice. I would do for Al Jazeera. They didn't make an offer, but. Yeah. I'm going to Saudi Arabia. I could hit them up. You're going to that comedy festival. Yeah. Should I have no hold on? No, no, no. That's great. Let's get into that in a second. Um, but no, yeah. So we got that coming up and then I don't know. I'm part of me wants to maybe do a show like in Hawaii just so I can also go on vacation. Right. But then part of me is like, I just don't know. Like, like I started like, yeah, like lose. I just like recently, like I just like, um, I think my nervous system's just shot, you know, but do you like being home like here? Like, do you like being in or do you like travel still? No, I do like it. I like being home and I want to be able to do more creative stuff. Like, you know, um, I'm trying to see if Druski wants to do a, do try to do something together. Right. Me and Spade made a movie that we're going to put out. We're editing right now. So there's a bunch of little things that I'm trying to do, you know, yeah. Dude, you and Druski would just do it like he, Druski would just be that character you guys could just be brothers. You could do keeping up with the Dordashians as a, as a movie. Yeah. And you too are the Dordashians. I think you want to find a family that likes the Dordash and it's a family affair. Right. And it's keeping up with the Dordashians or it's just like these funny like, you know, and the baby's in the backseat and he's eating a couple of the tots or something. Yeah. Dude, one of the guys who works with me is actually I'm doing, um, Chicago tomorrow and he's going to work with me on the show. He does Dordash in his spare time. And there's been multiple times where he's done Dordash orders while I'm on stage. He does his time and then he knows he's got about an hour while I'm up there and he does some Dordash and kids hustling. He's told me too what the trick is too, like they all eat for free. The Dordash drivers, because like, you know, when they get hungry, they'll just eat somebody's McDonald's or KFC order and then just kind of never deliver it and then let them take it up with Dordash and Dordash will usually just refund their money and then reorder it. But they got, they ate the food because it's not up to that. Like he said, there's no system. It's not like they know, oh, this guy, this driver took, they just line up the Dordash deliveries and you just take it and you take the receipt. No one's checking. No one's like scanning us, the driver in so you could do whatever you want to do. It's not connected. That's how you show the man right there. Dude. Now somebody doesn't get fed. Somebody and their kids do not get fed. Right. They're splitting up a yogurt or something at home, which is tough to do, dude. But my boy's point was the drivers don't make any money either. He's making like $8 an hour. So he's like, what about him? Now I got to eat your food. Some people, they love doing Dordash. It's fun. Oh, here's some stats right here. Let me see. As a U.S. food survey found that nearly 30% of food delivery drivers, including those on Dordash, admitted taking a bite of food from customers orders at least once. Dude, Mark Norman will take a bite out of your food. I've seen him do that multiple times at the Comedy Star. Oh, potato skin. Jews. He's the best, dude. He's the fucking best. Is he number one or what? You guys, I think y'all's personalities in New York are so fun, dude. Louis was just in town. Jim Norton was here. Yeah. Did you have Louis and Jim come on the show? Yeah. Yeah. And it was just like, oh. Dude, Jim Norton, Jim Norton. I've been, you know. You and I met each other by Jim Norton. No, no, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. We're dead. Vic Henley. Yep. Chef Karl Ruiz. Damn. Sucks. But, you know, rest in peace. But they, but Jim, dude, he said this bit, him and Anthony Cumbia did this bit the other day that I'm I mean, I like reposted. I had to text Jim like I almost crashed my car from laughing because by the way, like, you know, love this pod. But you know how like we do this? like this is our profession and even sometimes comedy can't be as cathartic for us as it is for the audience because like we get stuck in, you know, if you listen to some dope comedian or like you laugh but you're like, man, you kind of have this self-reflection like I should be better, blah, blah, blah. Jim Norton's got a new pod called Jim Norton's Pod Can't Save You. And it's, I listen to it like I'm an audience member. Like it's my cathartic, like I wait each week, I listen to the episodes, when they have the episodes on that, an episode, Old School One with Colin Quinn and Rich Voss, where it's like that old opiate Anthony energy, like from the early 2000s, it just hits me in a way where I'm like, oh, this is the gift of comedy, like I was going, you know, if you're going through stuff in your life, you're depressed, you're sad, you need to laugh, that's the pod I go to. Jim Norton Can't Save You, it's one, to me, it's like Jim in all his glory, but this bit, I came across it and I was dying. I kissed my friend's grandmother, which I know is trying to call. Right. And it was like, it was like a little peck in our lips touched. And I'd be lying. Whose lips were thinner and drier? Give a little contest. I would be lying if I said I wasn't turned on. I was a little turned on. I like the taste of geriatol. But, and I just, I couldn't do anything about it. Cause I'm like, then they closed the lid. Hahaha. Hahaha. Hahaha. That's awesome. That's my, you know, I don't know when I said, close the lid, it just hit me, cause I thought the bit was just about kissing his grandmother. 100%. And, and, but that's the kind of humor, you know, that I like. And I used to, it used to be one of those things where, you know, I understand this subjectivity of comedy now and how if I think it's really funny and you don't or vice versa, like that's just okay. Like I used to get upset if I saw not the whole audience laughing where now I'm just like, oh, okay. Yeah. That's it. Comedy can't be for everybody. Everybody's comedy can't be for everybody all the time. So I'm accepting of that now. Yeah. Just like this is where I'm, yeah, if I'm still trying to make something for everybody, then that's not going to be great. Trying to just be true to myself the best I can. Yeah. But those guys are, I mean, those guys are funny at a level that's way funnier than I feel like. I mean, way funnier than I'll ever be and way funnier than I think we are now. Well, yeah. I think you always feel like the generation before you is funnier. Well, like if you sit at the comedy cell and you ever get stuck at the back table with Jim Norton, Colin Quinn, Rich Voss, those guys, and they start hammering jokes and then it comes to you and you nine times out of 10, I don't have anything to say. Yeah. And then you just get abused and it, and you realize, hey, with this game, it's a ticket sales, money, fame, fortune, all those things are whatever. There's a part of it, that's great. But it's like just pound for pound. I've never seen a group that can hit it like those guys hit it. I just, I've never seen a group that that 90s, 2000s, tough crowd, New York. Keith Robinson. Yep, Keith Robinson, all those guys, old school Nick DePallo, Patrice O'Neill passed away. You know, I never met Patrice, but he was obviously amazing. Geraldo, those old school New York guys. Can't even imagine. Yeah, because there was a time where I was like, you know, people's, you know, you... And Schumer was in there, she was so funny. She was with that crew, yeah. I mean, she was so good. You know, and now I feel like with comedy, I feel like, you know, it's just, things are different now. And I just feel like, gotta just do it. You know, we have like these niche little audiences. I've convinced myself at times to try to be happier with less. You know, I'm trying, try to... Dude, I was getting a massage the other day and it was by a man. I prefer a man a lot of times. 100%. I don't like... But he doesn't do the happy ending though. You don't go that far with a guy. I don't let anybody, I mean, I'm not driving across town so some loser can jerk me off when I can do it myself at home. I'm not going to do it. And no offense, if you're a masseuse, you're not a loser or whatever. I don't mean that. I just mean like, the places I go, it's not like nobody's been to a school or like in a beauty school. You know, there's not a hot rock in the room unless it's fucking, unless it's in an eight ball in somebody's pocket. You know, there's no, it's not that kind of shit. It's just like the light bulbs kind of work and somebody will fucking run up your back. You don't know if it's a bug or a little Vietnamese woman, but it helps you relax. Same thing. And then I don't help you relax. No dude, I had an uncle who fought in the war. Oh dude, I don't give a shit. I haven't decided what side I'm on. Right. But here's the thing, I went in there and the guy, I paid him up front. This guy's such a great guy. And I go to two massage places. There's one in Westwood that I go to in Los Angeles. It's called Siri Foot Spa. And it's amazing. And then there's one in Nashville that I go to called Crest Foot Spa. Nice. And both of them. Why does it have to be a foot spa? Like what is that about a foot spa? Could you just get the feet done? No, but I'm just saying if they'll get into your feet, they'll get into the rest of you. That's true, dude. You know what I'm saying? If you start without, you know, they say you don't know a man until you walk a mile in his shoes. But if you're able to knuckle the history out of a man's feet. 100%. Then you know a man. Yes, sir. My toes, I got my toe next to my big toe just crosses over like that. They're called hammer toes. And I was telling my wife, I was like, I need a paternity test on that baby. And I was saying it like that. While she was giving birth, I was like, I need to know that mind. Oh, for sure. Yeah. And she, and I kept saying that. And then they slapped me. She slapped me, my girl in the middle of the childbirth. And she was like, look at that baby's feet. And then my daughter has the same toes as me. They're crossed over. Wassaid. I like that. But so my daughter, so I feel bad because my daughter, because my wife's feet are very flat. Like oh my, like a princess Fiona foot. And then my toes are crossed over. And I'm just hoping that my daughters don't have a mix of both our feet because girls should have nice feet. Guys, it doesn't matter if your feet are. My feet look like that. My feet look like they're on the wrong leg. Like my right foot's on my left and my left foot's on my right. That's what it feels like. And it looks like. You got toes in different area. But you got shit headin'. Yeah, it's bad. Somebody gives you directions. You're still fucked. Yeah, my feet will go the wrong way. It's like you never get like wet your iPhone and it's like you're hitting a thing and it's going over there. That's what my feet are. They're like wet iPhones. Yeah, you're soaking your feet in rice at night. Yeah, yeah. Trying to get them calibrated. Yeah, dude. But yo, speak, I need to get, start working on the massages and the care part of it. You gotta do it, man. Can't just go in and do push-off pull-ups and sit-ups at our age anymore. It's like you need the care. You need a massage a week, is it? Is that what the numbers are for you? Yeah, and I'll do two. Right now this week I'm trying to get extra ones. Just like I got a couple busy weeks coming up. And so I just gotta, like now's the time I gotta tap in and just see if I can make sure I'm taking care of myself. And I'm fortunate enough to be able to do it, right? Like I know some guys, they have families. They're working every day. You know, like, they work like daytime hours. So it's hard to find time to go. So yeah, I just feel lucky that I'm able to go do it. But yeah, I like to go into that joint where it's low key, dude, they used to have a place in LA, give it due $40 to Vietts would fucking beat the shit out of you. With the fucking... Vietcongs? Oh, I don't know. I didn't see their cocks, but I did. Like when I'm look heavy. Or he looked like his stomach was tight because it was moving around a big cock. Ever see somebody like that? 100%, dude. Like not even in good shape. You see their abs and like, what the fuck? And then you see like, oh, he's fucking, he's carrying, you know, he's got a couple of pallets full on him. Kobe Ashi, the hot dog eating champion, he's always shredded because he had that, you know? He's got that thing on him, you think? He's got that, 100%. He's got that Nathan's. Ooh, all that Nathan's is long and lean. 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I knew you weren't gonna, I knew you weren't in L-A, you were an L-A guy, but I knew that you were gonna come back home. You did? I knew you were gonna come back home. Yep, cause I feel like, I just feel like you belong here. I'm not from here. No, no, but in the- Oh, in the realm here? Yes. Oh yeah. Yeah, man, I think you're right. You belong in like a 200 mile radius and it's here. I feel really nice here. I feel lucky to be here. I feel like we're in a, I do feel like Tennessee is like a place that's, it's caring, it feels more normal. And it's like, and it's fun. And it's like, I don't know, everything doesn't feel like it's for sale. Yeah, like it feels, there's a genuineness to it all here where not everything is about entertainment here. You could, you know what I mean? Like you're an entertainer, but your neighbor's probably not. We're in LA, your neighbor probably is, or if they weren't at some point, they want it to be. So it's a tough thing to always be around that. Well, in Hollywood, I think, I mean, Hollywood's even losing a lot of the film industry. Bring up what's causing production to leave Los Angeles. Tax credits, AI, earthquakes, tsunamis. Dude, Beverly Hills looks like Saudi Arabia. Let me see. States like Georgia, New Mexico, and Nevada, plus countries such as Canada and the UK offer healthier tax incentives. The cost of living and operating in Los Angeles has significantly increased. Hollywood endured major strikes because of, and a lot of that's because of greed. The aftermath of COVID-19, which a lot of them helped push through the fucking celebrities and bullshit. So it's nice just to see a lot of this shit coming back and to bite people in the ass. Studios are cutting production budgets and scaling back local projects due to declining streaming numbers, reduced programming by networks, and a fall in box office revenues. Wildfires, I mean, yeah, they, dude, the fact that they didn't even have water in that reservoir, the fact that there's issues with like hundreds of millions of dollars they raised from fire aid that's not even going to people that, it's like, what is even going on? That place just feels like such a scam. And I think people with heartbeats are starting to kind of realize it. And now I don't mean like, that's just Hollywood, I'm saying, I'm not talking about the people really that are there. I mean, they know who I'm talking about, it's not like the everyday people that's just there that's hustling that love their neighborhoods and shit. I'm not talking about that. Right, right, yeah, yeah. LA OGs. Yeah, I'm just talking about how Hollywood, how they're losing that industry. And yeah, and maybe some guy like Mom Donnie will come along there and they'll start to like, you know, it'd be nice to see eventually that people that don't have all the means get to have more of the things. Right, right. Because it starts to get gluttonous and it starts to get kind of sick. Well, it starts and then you look back at history. That's why I love history so much and do the history pod because you look back at like the French Revolution, right? In the 1790s, that's what happened, man, is the wage gap started to get crazy and the rich just kept getting richer. And then what, and then they just stormed the Bastille and they cut off the king and queen's head, Marie Antoinette, let him eat cake, but she supposedly didn't say that. Well, she definitely didn't say that. But, and then they cut off the king, King Louis Domepiece in the beginning. If you ever seen the movie Napoleon with Joaquin Phoenix, that's the first scene that they show. And that's that wage gap is starting to broaden just like them days now. Dude, I wanna be on a horse with the revolutionaries. Yes. And I know that I've made money in my life now and it's different, but I'll never have money in my heart. And yeah, I wanna do some things that, towards the end of this year and next year that are gonna start to like create ways to like give back, help people like figure things out, you know? You should buy your whole neighborhood solar roofs, solar panel, Tesla roofs. Now people in my neighborhood are fine, they'll be okay. I mean, Go buy it for the, in the hood then. They don't, they're gonna fucking charge their guns at night. Yeah. No, but I think there is great ways. But I don't not thought about going back to my old neighborhood. We got a bunch of cool stuff in the coffers and some of that's just jokes. Dude. Did you see that Ro Khanna, he's a Democratic congressman from California. Okay. And Thomas Massie who's like the, who drove here in a truck that he lives in. He's like crazy. Bro parked it outside. I'm in that bitch drinking fucking raw milk where the midi got out of a goat by his home. Whoa. Oh yeah. Did you get sick after? I mean, I didn't get well. I was like, you know what I'm saying? My eyes wouldn't open that far in the morning. They opened, but just not that far, but, but anyway, they come up with this petition. It's a bipartisan effort, it says right here in the US House of Representatives launched in September to force a vote on releasing all federal files related to the Jeffrey Epstein case. The petition takes the form of a discharge petition, which allows a resolution or bill to bypass regular committee procedures and be brought directly to the house floor for a vote. I mean, don't you think it's crazy that they won't release this? What do you, like, do you have a take on what do you think is going on with all this? With the Epstein stuff? Yeah. I mean, it just seems like, how could they not like, does it feel like our government is protecting pedophiles to you? I mean, probably, but again, I don't know because there's so much mismatch. Like there's so many things happening here. So you look here and vice versa that I really don't know because, you know, the whole thing was about those missing second or second or one or two seconds of the Epstein tape. And then they just, the government just released the tape unedited and there's nothing that happens in those two seconds. So there's nobody that came in or came out of it. Now, could there be some more advanced technology we don't even know about that they're just making things happen, probably, but I don't know. I really don't know. I try, there are times where I find myself going down a rabbit hole of it. And then I try to take myself out and say, how does that, even if they aren't protecting pedophiles, how does that help me or hurt me in any way, shape, or form? It's like, dude, just go make your kid an avocado toast. Just go literally try to- Right, do the next right thing. I just try to make it small. I try to make my life small now, man. I'm like, I don't know, dude. I don't know Epstein, I don't know Trump. I've never met these people. So I can't have them affecting my life on a daily basis. I'm like, what are my kids gonna do, man? I'm like, you know, like- That's what's important. Should I help? Yeah, how can I help my kids learn? My stepson can't, the way he throws a baseball is like, we gotta fix that. Oh yeah. You know, my daughter- Like Piazza, he throws it. Yeah, dude, she wants to do cheerleading and she keeps falling off the pyramid. So I'm like, you know, man, I wanna do, I wanna get into this, but I'm also like- I don't have time. Dude, it's not important. I'm one of my kids is eight years old and still in a diaper. So I gotta fix that. You know what I mean? So that's what I do. And either none of us do it or all of us do it. That's what I say. I tell my, you know, I don't tell my kids that, I tell my, but I tell my kids other gems where I'm like, do the right thing, even if nobody's looking, do the right thing. You do the right thing, even when no one's looking. Like Spike Lee. Exactly. So you do the right thing, even when no one's looking. So, you know what I mean? And that's what my daughter, I think that's what my daughter does. I mean, you know, with the whole I stuff. Oh, I think it's obviously, at least she's involved in, at least she has some political or social awareness. That's what I'm saying. I don't. Right, but you have to make time so that they do. Exactly. So I keep the space. I'm gonna pivot right here. I wanna talk about you, cause last time you were on, we had an extensive conversation. I think it was Valentine's Day. Valentine's Day was coming up and we talked about love and we literally talked about it for about two hours. You got engaged finally. For the second time, is that right? Your second time. First time we did it, it was like, you know, cause we had a baby so quick and I wanted to do it, but it was really just Catholic guilt wanting to do it. And then, and then we split up for a while. And that's what happens sometimes. You split up with someone and then, you know, you kind of realize what you got, you know, that saying, you don't know what you got until it's gone. And then so that's what her, Jazz and I have been together now for Jesus 11, 12 years. And, you know, we're getting engaged because we got engaged because, you know, we got kids, you know, we got three kids. Yeah, and you're a family now. We're a family now. And I said, what, like my- Three kids or two kids? Well, two biological and one- And one extra kid. One extra kid, right? Do you believe, how does love change over time for you guys? How has it changed? Well, I realized that it's not a feeling, it's an action. That's how it's evolved to me. Tell me about that a little bit. You know, before that love is an action, but- Wait, like tell me a little more. Meaning like to me, the first sense that I felt any time I ever saw, what I felt when I first saw Jasmine. I remember you told me at a bar, you guys were at a place. It was, yeah. It was a volleyball bar? Yeah, called Place to Beach in Brooklyn. And I- It was a pun. And then I felt, and they got shut down because they were selling the fake vaccine card. Yeah, first of all, dude. Yeah. Dude, there's nothing like meeting an illegal alien at a fake vaccine card shop. Yeah, it was amazing. If your marriage doesn't start out like that in America, then fuck you up then. So, she, so I felt this feeling, like when I saw her, like she like stopped me on my tracks. Like just like feeling I can't, I still- Like in a gestion or something, but in your legs. Yeah, I thought I was having a heart attack. I thought maybe because me and my boy Pat, we were in like so much pepperoni. And so I was like, oh, maybe it's that. Maybe it's finally catching up to me and Pepto-Obismo, nothing worked. And then so, and so I realized like that was like, I thought that was love, but that was more of like an infatuation. That was more of like a lust. That was more like me just taken in by her beauty, like the, you know, that. So that's powerful, that's necessary. And then I went through with that feeling for years, thinking like that was love. And then we would have all these problems. And I was always looking for something else. I was always pushing her away. Then I'd get closer. She'd push me away and all these things. And I realized like, oh, these are just that, that was, that wasn't love. Love to me was in action. What I realized was all these years later that the real love was her and I coming back together after, you know, a big fight. Her showing me so much loyalty, me showing her loyalty, her being there for me when the things were not going well for me. All those things were, that's the love, the action, love is in action. And I see her do that for me. Cause I used to think, I used to think that she, you know, I would always be searching in my brain being a bit of a perfectionist as, as, you know, we all are, I think in comedy, like we always want everything to go right. I would always saying, oh, you know, she's not, she's not perfect. So I gotta, you're looking for something else. Your brain is always like, what's the next best thing? What's the next best thing? And then, you know, at some point to you, you say, okay, I can go get this or get that. And then you're looking for what's perfect, what's perfect. And then I realized at some point it hit me. I was like, oh, she actually is perfect because she's, she's taking me in for more, all my imperfections. She's understanding how imperfect I am and still accepting me anyway. So that's, that is like someone who's perfect because a lot of people wouldn't do that. A lot of people would have just thrown me to the side by now and been like, hey, figure it out cause she knows I love my kids. She knows I'm always going to take care of her. You know, so it wasn't about the money. It wasn't about, oh, I need a man in my life. It's about specifically me. She's taken me in for my imperfections. So for me, that makes her perfect to me. And after all these years, I've realized that all that and the action of love and, you know, what we have with our children and building a family, like there's nothing, your life is happening right now. And while I have like a perfect life right now, and I don't live in the zero sum game anymore. It used to be, if my career was down, I'd be unhappy. If I wasn't feeling, if I was feeling out of shape, I'd be unhappy. One thing could make it all unhappy because I was playing zero sum. It's either all or nothing. I don't do that anymore. I'll say some things in my life are up and down. Everybody's life, it's all in flux. How were you able to adjust that? Like was there something that happened that made you sort of see that? Cause that's pretty powerful to hear about, man. Cause yeah, I think I've certainly had that. Like one thing will affect kind of how I operate for the rest of the day. And then, or affects how I think about myself. Well, I think children, that's why it's important. You know, in my life personally, people do what they want. For me, abort or your kids, whatever you want to do. In New York City, you could kill them all up. I think till they're 18, I think you can have legal abortions. That's what AOC said. Oh, you can send a kid to Gaza. And Israel killed them. Mom Donny's gonna make it 21, he said. Is he? That's what he said. That's what the platform, some people are voting for that. You can abortions up to their kids are 21. So, but what I felt like, you know, how I learned all that is literally just by like listening to my kids and watching what my kids kind of want for me and expect from me. And I realized that, you know, you could spend your whole life thinking about, oh, what's gonna happen tomorrow? Always being, you know, always being, you know, there's something's better than, something's better on the horizon. You can spend your whole life like, and then your whole life goes by. So I realized to like being the, like, nothing's better to me. Like what's better than, you know, you know, a Lamborghini or selling out a world tour or having sex with the hottest girls. Like, you know, just sitting in the grass with your kids. Like that. And it's not for everybody. And also at times, it's not even for me. At times I'm sitting in the grass with my kids. I'm like, this sucks. I want to go driving the Lamborghini. But it's not a zero sum game. Exactly. But those moments that I do have when I am fully locked in, I'm always chasing that. If I'm chasing one thing, I'm always chasing those. I've had feeling throughout my life of being locked in with my family. I've never had a euphoria is like that. I've never been happier than that. And it doesn't happen all the time. I'm home with my family trying to say, find that feeling. And I just can't, you know, find it. But I don't beat myself up about it anymore. I'm like, yo, just keep coming. Yonis and I, Yonis talks to me a lot about going back to life is coming back to the present. Always come back to the present. Always come back to the moment. That's all, that's your job. Come back to the moment as much as you can throughout the day. Come back to the moment. Cause it's all happening now. I try to be where my feet are. Like there, there was a time when I was talking to you the last time we spoke about love and on Valentine's Day. Half of my brain was with you. And then half of my brain was probably back home at my kids or, you know, what I was doing after that or my show, but now I'm fully locked in just with you. I, I've, that's one thing I have definitely can feel I've gotten better. I just, I'm where my feet are. I'm fully with you right now. And then when I leave, I'll, I'll fully be with, you know, the driver and then I'll, and then, you know, when I speak to my family, I'll fully be with them. You know what I mean? And I'll fully be with Asian dude in the bathroom at VNA airport, baby. Right. The Vietcong's getting, yeah, I got those camera shoes. So that's how I feel. I don't know if I've explained it correctly. Round trip to Saigon. Yeah, Guantanamo Bay. So I don't know if I explained it right. No, I think you did. That's what it is. Well, I think it's funny you said, when you say something that it's like, yeah, I let my mind like, I'll have a thought and then my mind will multiply it. Right. Kind of, I'll have a feeling or one bad thing will happen. Something that's not my favorite. Well, cause the brain is going to go towards connection. That's the connective tissue. That's why they say those mushrooms or acid, one of them is good cause they say it wipes away your- I'm an opioid. I can't, which one is it? That's what they say, one of them. Something on Joe Rogan said that. Yeah. I don't know, but that feeling, it's like this thing where I thought, I was thinking about this the other day, like the, you know, like to be happy, you mean, you're honest for having a conversation about this and he had different feelings, but I was kind of saying like, you know, faith, you gotta have faith. Like, you know, people talk about hope and all that, but I feel like faith is, to me, is better. Like it's faith is on a creator and like hope is just- Hope is just gay faith. It's just exactly. Hope is gay faith. That's the merch. So faith, so we gotta have faith that like tomorrow will be better. So it kind of goes against what I just said, but on the same hand, it's like simultaneously, I think this balance of life is have faith, you know, we had to get out of the caves basically as, you know, Neanderthals, we were getting at it. You have to get out of the cave, like to go survive in advance and all that. So it's like, you gotta have this faith that there's a better life outside the cave by also acknowledging simultaneously that what you have in the cave is enough. So it's a, it's a delicate life. It's just balance, you know what I mean? Dude, my uncle, he used to tickle us, right? And the only way he had him to stop you to say the N word to get him to stop. Right, right. That's my, I have the same uncle like that. And the only way you'd say, it's not tickle, but you say the N words, the only way to get him to come. So when he asked, he, because he wants to give a, you know, like donate a sperm. Oh. So he wouldn't be able to do it. The prostate wouldn't work, nothing so, but because he's got such potent sperm. So if you yell the N word, he'd bust a nut. And then that's how he was able to get back to his community by helping some of the ladies who were infertile make more babies. Oh, you yell the N words to the whites will pop out, you know? They're like, what's going on out there? Right. He's black. Your uncle's black? Yeah. That's good. I have one black uncle. I actually have a Puerto Rican uncle for real. He passed away. He was dope, dude. He, true story. Somebody robbed my mom coming down the block and they were robbing women, taking their purses. They took my mom's purse and multiple other ladies purses. And then they would sell, you know, like take their money. And it was running out of the back of a bodega that, you know, they had like steal their money, sell their stuff, whatever, sell their license. I don't know. And my uncle would go to that bodega and drink beers and chill and he heard them talking in Spanish about, oh, they just took this lady's purse. And he was saying like to himself, he's like, oh, I think that's my sister-in-law, right? So he didn't like this guy already. So they got drunk and then he brought him, he had a whole craft like a tool shed in my garage. And he had, he took this guy back to the garage. He thought he was just gonna drink beers or whatever. And then he tied him up and he put on a welding mask and he welded the skin off his knees for stealing from my mom. And then he gave my mom all her money back and all that. And he had fossilized this guy's knee skin. Fuck. Dead serious. He was crazy, dude. Fuck. And he would drive me to school. I don't want you here anymore. He would drive me to school. He's dead though, that guy. Yeah. I mean, I was a little kid. They didn't tell me till I was an adult. I don't, I feel bad for everybody in that. Right. Yeah, but the guy was robbing purses and he didn't kill him. He just melted the skin off his knees. I think sometimes you gotta have some serious measures. Yeah, man. I, you know, I like finding that. Yeah. Finding love and committing to it and realizing that the rest of the stuff is distraction. You know? Yeah, but also too. I mean, I say all that stuff, but I also don't know what the fuck I'm talking about. Right. But you know what you're talking about for you when you're trying your best. I don't think you can say that. You know what? You know what I mean? You seem insane. No, but you know what I've been realizing too? Like just about me. I mean, like, you know, cause I'm only me. Like there's moments of the day, almost every day where I'll have some like, intuitive, I'll say something like so intuitive and tight, but I'll say it like, like only once in a while does that get captured on the camera. Like when I'm supposed to be doing my job here, I'm just babbling. I don't know what I'm talking about, but I'll like get on the plane tonight and have a conversation with the person next to me. And it'll be like next level on. And so I wonder about that. No, I think people sometimes- You ever do that? Oh yeah, I have conversations in my head. I'll listen back. After I get like, I'll be listening to the edit of an episode is watching through. And I'm like, why didn't I ask that? This should have asked this. That's insane not to ask that right there. But I think it's just where your brain is and what you can handle and what you like do and take on at the moment. Oh, did you see, there's a clip of a woman took a man into the mall and made him walk. He cheated and she made him walk with a sign on. You see that? No, but this is awesome. And this guy's a sign on it says I had a two year affair. Ask me how it says. Yeah, ask me how. Ask me how it says. He had a two year affair while I had his second baby. He intentionally had a second baby and he was having an affair the whole time. This feels real to me to you. It feels real, but to me it's like. Is this valuable? Do you think is this the kind of stuff we need to keep marriages together? No, I would get a divorce dude. You don't want to be with her. Well, he should have gotten a divorce than to go ahead and have a more family. The good thing about like, my lady is if that, if I ever had a two year affair, which I haven't, but if I ever had a two year affair, she would never do this. She would punch me directly in my spleen. She would hit, that's what would happen for that. Like she would find an organ and she's lefty. Other flyweights are welterweights. And she would hit it with the, probably with the ring on. So she'd hit me hard in the spleen, pancreas, something like that. And she would just, that's what I would do. And I have a kind of shit blood or piss blood. Like an Irish Mickey Ward or whatever. For a little while. But then she would probably make me plantinose or some dish, the Maduro's, the Smash Plantinose. She would make it for me maybe a couple of nights later. She'd be all right. But see like what this is, like this I don't like. And also, I mean, there's a part of me that also doesn't believe it. I just, because of how much content is out there, I just don't believe that it's always real. But, you know, she... Why would he go do this? She just, if it's not real, her acting is pretty good in this video. Well, he's, you know what I mean? I mean, yeah, that's bitch boy behavior. I mean, I would never... Well, here's the thing. They brought the baby. Is the baby real? Can you zoom in and see if the baby's moving at all? Is that... Yeah, I don't know. Doesn't even look like there's a baby in there. Oh, there it is. Yeah, there's his feet. So that's pretty real. Who's gonna give somebody a fake baby to go make this? Yeah, and that's kind of whack. Like if you got to see your parents, I don't think, I mean, I get what she's trying to do, but it's whack all around. I mean, he's whack, she's whack. They both just look like they suck. And they both do look like prototypical podcast fans. These are exactly what the fans of the podcast look like. These kinds of people, you got a fat older lady and just a skinny guy who looks kind of dirty. She's not even older. Yes, she is. What, she's 25. Too old, baby. Wow, bro. Too old, oh, you owe. But what did she tell him? You have to do this or what? She probably said, you have to do this or what? Or I'm gonna like, I see that's the thing, cause normally it's like, oh, I'll tweet out your messages, I'll contact this girl. I see, so whatever, she was gonna maybe blast him. Yeah, but this is worse. I'd rather that. I'd rather that than go ahead, tell everyone you've ever met because I don't wanna do this. Yeah. I don't believe, and I bet you if you scroll through the comments, most people are saying this isn't real. Let's see, I don't think it's real. Let me see, she entirely, I'm asking her husband, she should have just left him. Do you believe, like, how many of these comments do you think are real people? And have you ever commented like on a video? You're right, it's all a mirage. Right, like, I feel like it's getting to the point now where it might be like over 50% of the people that comment on your stuff are bots. Well, especially with AI, it's like, they can make so many things are bots. Like, AI is so capable of like, act more human when you comment, like you can do all that. It's like, we're watching a, like, it's kinda crazy to think that our reality has become science fiction. Right, but it's the reality on the social media platforms and on the internet. Is science fiction? No, our reality has become fiction. But then what's science fiction? Smart fiction, which it really is because it's definitely like tricks us a lot. Right, dude. I know, yeah, I don't, I don't know, dude. I know Jesse Smollett's probably innocent. I watch a Netflix documentary. Oh, do you think I could play Jesse Smollett in a biopic? Well, I told you, especially from the future, because as you said in the beginning of the show, you're a black woman from the future. So I think that you could. And I think that you could play Jesse Smollett and you could play the attackers within Nigerian dudes. One of, I think you could play any of those three. I think you're a good actor. Thanks, dude. Even though I've never seen you act, but I have a feeling that you're a good actor. Feelings mean a lot. Dude, remember when you said on OP and Anthony or the OP show all those years ago that I look like a deaf guy that goes to the gym? No, you're a good actor. But we had so much fun in there. And you know what's crazy too, to watch that video. If you ever like, you, more you, like you watch that, you could watch that clip and you know, just think about like at that point in your career, like you were kind of struggling. Oh yeah. Well, you said you were struggling. We thought, you know, you were like, I remember us going out lunch and you were like, man, like there was, I think you had done a show the next weekend in Sacramento, punch on you had forgotten your pants. And you had to take the opener's pants. Oh yes. That's a true story. Don, the guy Don, DePeta, you had to take his pants. I remember. Yeah, cause you didn't have pants, dude. And you wouldn't sell barely any tickets at the Sacramento punch on then. And then you blew up. That was so much fun going in there. Dude, going in there in the morning, going in that building and getting to go in there. Oh, it was great. And like there was like, you were in there. Bobby Lee used to go in there and eat bull dick. There were heroes in there. Bobby ate bull dick? Yes. He ate bull dick on OP show. I don't know if you love it. Yeah, there's video of it. Him eating bull dick. And then Howard Stern was there. Remember he was down the hall. You know that New York serious XM building? It's not like that at all anymore. There's like a ghost. There's nobody, I mean, OP and Anthony's not even a show anymore. Jim doesn't have a show anymore. Howard Stern still has a show, but he never goes in. Sway in the morning. Although nobody goes in. I think we got to start going into the buildings again. I don't like, oh, like, I don't think working from home is, I don't know that it's going to last. But here we are doing it. Let's pull up this one clip right there. Bobby's bull testicle. Yeah, I was here for that. And the chef did put olive oil and some salt on it. Ooh. Wow, this is 10 years ago, see? You promise me something? It's actually, though, is it? Wait, I'll get on Snapchat. Ooh. Bobby. Is that real? That's real, dude. I was sitting across. Then he ran out. It's not gay if you're starving, dude. You're starving. And this was before bad friends. He was also at this time in 2016, telling me his career was felt like dead in the water. And now look how things can change. He's one of the best bad friends you could have right there. Oh, he just pulled the nuts off of it. Yeah, he pulled the nuts. Oh, and he bit into them. He ate into the nuts. He vomited it. Yeah, I think he runs out of the studio. And I went after him and he was vomiting for real. Oh, that's a Christmas carrot right there. Yes, look, he ran out. He ran out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's dead now, Carl, unfortunately. I know. A lot of people pass with this. So is Vic Henley right there. Vic Henley, yeah, unfortunately. Well, I think the one thing that we can count on, man, is just love. It's like, that's what you, I think that's one of the messages I feel like from our conversation today. It's like, you know, there's a lot going on in the world. You focus on the things that are in front of you and the things you can handle. And that is really what's important. Make your life a little smaller. That's what I try to tell my kids, man. There's so many things going on in the world. Yeah, take little breaks. It's like, there's travesty happening all over the world. You can't fix everything, but you know what I mean? You could sweep up in front of your crib. Could sweep up in front of the house, take the garbage out. You know, tell your neighbors, try not to be Nazis if they can. You know what I mean? Yeah. Do the right thing even when nobody's watching. All that comparison is the thief of joy. Hope is my hedge, faith are my facts. I am okay. Hope is gay faith. Hope is gay faith. Faith is also a big time name for gay women. Gay ass faith. The next time we talk, we should talk about how certain names could lead people down certain sexual paths. My name, well, Christopher, my dad, he purposely calls me Christopher and not Chris because he believes that if a man goes with their full first name, that means they're gay. So he will, he basically calls me gay. I don't think I was a joke, but he calls me Christopher. It's really like he's saying you're gay. And Paul, he named me Paul. Sorry, dude, I gotta interrupt you, but we gotta, you have to go or you're gonna miss your flight. I gotta go, I gotta go to Chicago, dude. Dude, I love you, history hyenas is back. People can check it out. You're on tour with some tour dates. We'll make sure we put them all up and talk about them in the beginning. And I love you, man, good to see you. Love you, brother, you too, man. Now I'm just floating on the breeze and I feel I'm falling like these leaves, but I must be cornerstone. Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll share this peace of mind. I found I can feel it in my bones, but it's gonna take. Ready to launch your business? 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